0:00:02 > 0:00:06This programme contains some strong language.
0:00:18 > 0:00:20PHONE CHIMES
0:00:20 > 0:00:24They've found her, everyone! It's true.
0:00:24 > 0:00:26It's true. She's alive.
0:00:27 > 0:00:28We never lost faith.
0:00:28 > 0:00:30We look after our own.
0:00:30 > 0:00:32And we can't wait to welcome Shannon home.
0:00:32 > 0:00:35- ALL:- SHANNON! SHANNON! SHANNON! SHANNON!
0:00:35 > 0:00:37SHANNON! SHANNON!
0:00:37 > 0:00:39Karen's not clever enough to have made all this up!
0:00:39 > 0:00:42Either that, or you're leaning over too far to make excuses for her.
0:00:42 > 0:00:45We just need you to confirm that it's her.
0:00:46 > 0:00:48Yeah, that's Shannon.
0:00:48 > 0:00:50Oh, Natalie. Fantastic news or what?
0:00:50 > 0:00:52Have you heard where they found her?
0:00:52 > 0:00:53No. Have you?
0:01:01 > 0:01:03CHEERING
0:01:11 > 0:01:13Hey, we showed 'em, eh, Petra?
0:01:13 > 0:01:15Oh, didn't we just!
0:01:15 > 0:01:18People that live round here, right, are just as good as anyone else.
0:01:18 > 0:01:20They're better!
0:01:20 > 0:01:23If anyone asks me where I'm from, right, I shan't just say Dewsbury!
0:01:23 > 0:01:27I shall say - "Moorside Estate, Dewsbury!"
0:01:27 > 0:01:29CHEERING
0:01:32 > 0:01:34Come here, Kinchie, let's have a picture.
0:01:34 > 0:01:36Oh, aye...
0:01:39 > 0:01:41Cheers, aye...
0:01:43 > 0:01:45So where did they find her, Kinchie?
0:01:45 > 0:01:47I can't discuss operational matters.
0:01:47 > 0:01:50Operational, my arse. There's all sorts of rumours flyin' around.
0:01:50 > 0:01:51Yeah, I don't doubt it.
0:01:51 > 0:01:54Yeah, like she were at Craig's uncle's?
0:01:54 > 0:01:55- No comment. - So it's true?
0:01:55 > 0:01:57Julie...
0:01:57 > 0:02:01But we're all going to know soon enough anyway, Kinchie. Who is he, this uncle?
0:02:01 > 0:02:03Mick Donovan, they call him.
0:02:03 > 0:02:05Well, what's the story? How come she were with him?
0:02:05 > 0:02:08Homicide Team are still trying to ascertain that.
0:02:08 > 0:02:11They've only just been made aware of his existence.
0:02:11 > 0:02:14They discovered that he's not been in touch with any of
0:02:14 > 0:02:16Shannon's family since she disappeared.
0:02:16 > 0:02:17That's a bit bloody weird.
0:02:26 > 0:02:29- Here you go, then.- Thanks, Mum.- Pop. - Pop.
0:02:29 > 0:02:30- Thank you.- Thank you.
0:02:30 > 0:02:33Have you just made that one up? There you are, love.
0:02:33 > 0:02:36- Right, come on. - Everybody all right. All right.
0:02:36 > 0:02:37All right. Are you not coming down?
0:02:37 > 0:02:39No, I'm not. I'm looking after this lot, aren't I?
0:02:39 > 0:02:42Bring 'em down - everyone else has took their kids.
0:02:42 > 0:02:43There's a massive party.
0:02:43 > 0:02:45ALL: YEAH!
0:02:45 > 0:02:47Yeah, well, I'm not sure there should be a party.
0:02:47 > 0:02:49ALL: Aww...
0:02:49 > 0:02:50What do you mean?
0:02:50 > 0:02:52No. Are you a wind-up?
0:02:52 > 0:02:54- Come in here. - An elephant.
0:02:59 > 0:03:02I mean, till we find out what's gone on.
0:03:02 > 0:03:05All this stuff about Shannon at her uncle's and that...
0:03:05 > 0:03:08What's it matter, she's safe? Look, we deserve this.
0:03:08 > 0:03:11And what about Karen's reaction when they told her they'd found her?
0:03:11 > 0:03:14Did you see her face? There was hardly any emotion.
0:03:14 > 0:03:16She was shocked. How's she supposed to react?
0:03:16 > 0:03:18I'd have been screaming at 'em to let me see her.
0:03:18 > 0:03:20Yeah, well, that's you. Karen's different.
0:03:20 > 0:03:23I just think it's a bit premature to be partying.
0:03:23 > 0:03:25Yeah, well, bollocks to you, then.
0:03:27 > 0:03:28DOOR OPENS AND CLOSES
0:03:34 > 0:03:36You haven't asked how Shannon is?
0:03:37 > 0:03:39How is she?
0:03:39 > 0:03:41We don't really know.
0:03:41 > 0:03:45We're still trying to coax out her account of what happened.
0:03:45 > 0:03:47You haven't asked where we found her.
0:03:47 > 0:03:49Where did you find her?
0:03:49 > 0:03:52She was being hidden under a divan bed in the bedroom of
0:03:52 > 0:03:53a flat in Batley Carr.
0:03:54 > 0:03:56There was a man hiding with her.
0:03:56 > 0:03:58Was there?
0:03:58 > 0:04:00By the name of Michael Donovan.
0:04:03 > 0:04:06Do you know him?
0:04:06 > 0:04:09Nope, I've never even heard of him.
0:04:13 > 0:04:17ALL: Shannon! Shannon! Shannon! Shannon!
0:04:22 > 0:04:26CLAMOUR
0:04:44 > 0:04:46- Karen! - Hey, Julie.
0:04:47 > 0:04:49Didn't I say we'd get her back?
0:04:49 > 0:04:51- Yeah, you did! - You all right?
0:04:52 > 0:04:55Let me through. Karen.
0:04:55 > 0:04:58Natalie... Can we go in?
0:04:58 > 0:05:00Hate this lot gawping at us.
0:05:07 > 0:05:09- So...how is Shannon? - Yeah, she's fine.
0:05:09 > 0:05:11When will she be home? We're dying to see her.
0:05:11 > 0:05:14- Dunno. Police haven't said.- You must be desperate to have her back.
0:05:14 > 0:05:16- Yeah, I'm desperate. - We both are. Desperate.
0:05:16 > 0:05:18What's this about her being wi' your uncle, Craig?
0:05:18 > 0:05:21- Oh, I don't know owt about it.- Me neither.- Well, hasn't Shannon said?
0:05:21 > 0:05:23Dunno. They're still not lettin' me talk to her yet.
0:05:23 > 0:05:25- Someone said he were called Mick Donovan.- I don't know.
0:05:25 > 0:05:28And summat about he had his own kids took off him, and was accused of abducting 'em.
0:05:28 > 0:05:31Bollocks. He didn't abduct 'em, he just took 'em to Blackpool.
0:05:31 > 0:05:33- Do you know him, Karen? - No, I've never even met him.
0:05:33 > 0:05:37- Yeah, you have, you were at me dad's funeral, and so were he. - I don't remember that.
0:05:37 > 0:05:40Well, that's funny cos at piss-up after, you were sat on his knee.
0:05:40 > 0:05:43- You what?- I never wor! - I saw you! And I weren't t'only one.
0:05:43 > 0:05:44I don't remember sitting on no-one's knee!
0:05:44 > 0:05:47How can you not remember sittin' on a fella's knee?
0:05:47 > 0:05:49- I just don't!- Oh, come on, Karen. - Can we just drop all this?
0:05:49 > 0:05:51- It's doing me head in!- It's doing mine in, an' all!
0:05:51 > 0:05:54Karen, come on, don't upset yourself. We're missing the point here, aren't we?
0:05:54 > 0:05:56The point is, we've found Shannon.
0:05:56 > 0:05:57She's safe and she'll be back home soon.
0:05:57 > 0:06:00- Yeah, we should do summat to celebrate.- Yeah, bring it on!
0:06:00 > 0:06:03I've got it - a tree for Shannon!
0:06:03 > 0:06:04Bloody mint idea, Julie!
0:06:04 > 0:06:06Thanks, Julie, I love you!
0:06:14 > 0:06:16Right, Michael, can we go through this again, please?
0:06:16 > 0:06:19What exactly did Karen ask you to do?
0:06:19 > 0:06:21She said I were to look after Shannon...
0:06:21 > 0:06:23and then she'd report her missing.
0:06:23 > 0:06:25She actually said that to you?
0:06:25 > 0:06:28That she'd report her missing, even though she knew she was with you?
0:06:28 > 0:06:30- Yeah. - And what did you say to that?
0:06:30 > 0:06:32I said I weren't happy about it.
0:06:32 > 0:06:35And what did she say when you told her that?
0:06:40 > 0:06:43She said that if I didn't do it, she'd get three lads onto me.
0:06:43 > 0:06:44Three lads, eh?
0:06:44 > 0:06:46And she said there'd be money in it for me.
0:06:46 > 0:06:49She actually said you'd get some money?
0:06:49 > 0:06:51She said I had to do what she said and if I told anyone else
0:06:51 > 0:06:53about it I'd be dead.
0:06:53 > 0:06:55So now you're saying she threatened you'd be killed?
0:06:55 > 0:06:57By these same three lads?
0:06:57 > 0:07:01Karen Matthews making death threats? Does that ring true to you?
0:07:02 > 0:07:05What did she actually tell you to do with Shannon?
0:07:05 > 0:07:08- I'm cold. - Yeah, you've said that, Michael.
0:07:08 > 0:07:10That's why we've given you a blanket.
0:07:53 > 0:07:55Apparently, Donovan's neighbours had heard a kiddy's footsteps in
0:07:55 > 0:07:57the flat when he was out.
0:07:57 > 0:08:00So the coppers knock. No answer. They break in.
0:08:00 > 0:08:02It's all dead quiet.
0:08:02 > 0:08:04They're beginning to think they've drawn a blank.
0:08:04 > 0:08:07Next thing, one of them hears Shannon's voice.
0:08:07 > 0:08:09"You're frightening me now."
0:08:09 > 0:08:11They go in the bedroom. No sign of anyone.
0:08:11 > 0:08:14They start poking around and there she is,
0:08:14 > 0:08:16hidden in the base of a divan bed.
0:08:16 > 0:08:18- And Donovan's hiding with her. - Was she all right?
0:08:18 > 0:08:20One of the neighbours said she saw a copper
0:08:20 > 0:08:23carrying her out a couple of minutes later.
0:08:23 > 0:08:26Cradled in his arms. Said she looked scared for her life.
0:08:26 > 0:08:27That's all I know.
0:08:32 > 0:08:35What about that?
0:08:35 > 0:08:37Oh, that's pathetic.
0:08:37 > 0:08:40It'll grow. Trees grow.
0:08:40 > 0:08:43This is a massive event. We want to make a massive gesture.
0:08:43 > 0:08:45And I would get a massive bollocking if I try and put that
0:08:45 > 0:08:47through on expenses.
0:08:50 > 0:08:54"Magnolia stellata. Ideal for the smaller garden." There you are.
0:09:01 > 0:09:02Here, grab it.
0:09:09 > 0:09:12- Bloody hell, Julie! - Size isn't important.
0:09:12 > 0:09:14- Never heard you say that before! - Me neither, Julie!
0:09:14 > 0:09:16So, when's the ceremony?
0:09:16 > 0:09:18Tonight. It's going to be mega.
0:09:18 > 0:09:20They're taking us to t'police station.
0:09:20 > 0:09:22- What, to see Shannon? - Yeah, probably.
0:09:22 > 0:09:25Oh, how long will you be? We've got the "Tree For Shannon" tonight.
0:09:25 > 0:09:27Sorry, I can't say.
0:09:27 > 0:09:29OK, well, we'll postpone if we have to. Who's looking after t'kids?
0:09:29 > 0:09:31- Craig's mum. - Give Shannon our love!
0:09:31 > 0:09:33Yeah, we'll give her your love.
0:09:36 > 0:09:38They're taking Karen to see Shannon.
0:09:38 > 0:09:40Hmm...
0:09:40 > 0:09:43- If I were t'police, I'd want to ask them some questions too.- Why?
0:09:43 > 0:09:46I don't know, Julie, but something's not right here.
0:09:46 > 0:09:48If there's owt wrong, police'll get to bottom of it.
0:09:48 > 0:09:49You reckon?
0:09:58 > 0:10:00You're not letting me see her.
0:10:00 > 0:10:02I don't even know why you've brought us here.
0:10:02 > 0:10:04Cos it's like a bloody circus at your house.
0:10:04 > 0:10:05We can't talk to you properly.
0:10:05 > 0:10:08- What's there to talk about. - Michael Donovan, for one.
0:10:08 > 0:10:10I've told you, I've never even met him.
0:10:10 > 0:10:13Even though a number of witnesses claim they saw you sitting on
0:10:13 > 0:10:15his knee at Craig's dad's funeral?
0:10:15 > 0:10:18I'd remember! If I'd sat on his knee, I'd remember, wouldn't I?
0:10:18 > 0:10:19You'd think so.
0:10:19 > 0:10:22And I wouldn't even sit on someone else's knee when I'm wi' Craig.
0:10:22 > 0:10:24Especially a bloke like Mick Donovan.
0:10:24 > 0:10:25So you do know him.
0:10:28 > 0:10:31You must have been surprised when you heard where Shannon had
0:10:31 > 0:10:32been found?
0:10:32 > 0:10:34Yeah, I were, dead surprised.
0:10:36 > 0:10:40Did you ever think to yourself that your Uncle Mick might have her?
0:10:40 > 0:10:42No, I didn't.
0:10:42 > 0:10:45You didn't wonder why he'd not been in touch to ask after Shannon?
0:10:45 > 0:10:48- I had other things to think about. - Mm, yeah, course.
0:10:51 > 0:10:54Has he been in touch with any other members of the family over
0:10:54 > 0:10:56- the last three weeks? - No.
0:10:56 > 0:10:58Has he been in touch with Karen?
0:10:58 > 0:11:00Karen says she doesn't know him.
0:11:00 > 0:11:01Is that true?
0:11:03 > 0:11:05I don't know.
0:11:05 > 0:11:07Did you have any idea that Donovan intended to take Shannon?
0:11:07 > 0:11:10- No, I didn't? - Did Karen?
0:11:10 > 0:11:12How could she, if she doesn't know him?
0:11:12 > 0:11:15How do you get on with Shannon and Karen's other children, Craig?
0:11:15 > 0:11:18- You've asked me that before. - Well, I'm asking you again.
0:11:20 > 0:11:23Get on great. I'm a top stepdad.
0:11:27 > 0:11:30We've charged Mick Donovan with Shannon's abduction.
0:11:30 > 0:11:32Well, that's it, then.
0:11:32 > 0:11:34But he's telling us you were in on it with him.
0:11:34 > 0:11:36How?
0:11:36 > 0:11:38He's saying the two of you planned it.
0:11:38 > 0:11:40That you agreed he'd pick Shannon up from school,
0:11:40 > 0:11:42keep her at his flat, and split the reward money.
0:11:42 > 0:11:45Well, he's lying, then, isn't he? I weren't even in on it.
0:11:45 > 0:11:48Didn't even know where he lived nor nowt.
0:11:48 > 0:11:50But earlier, you said you didn't even know Donovan,
0:11:50 > 0:11:52now you've admitted you do.
0:11:54 > 0:11:57Had you had a thing going with Mick Donovan?
0:11:57 > 0:11:58No.
0:11:58 > 0:12:00Come on, Karen. Have you shagged him?
0:12:00 > 0:12:02No, I bloody haven't!
0:12:02 > 0:12:03SHE SNIFFLES
0:12:23 > 0:12:25REPORTERS SHOUT QUESTIONS
0:12:39 > 0:12:41You all right, Natalie?
0:12:41 > 0:12:45Yeah, just helping out wi' Karen's kids.
0:12:45 > 0:12:47How come they've not brought Shannon back?
0:12:47 > 0:12:50Sorry, I can't talk about that.
0:12:50 > 0:12:52I don't get it.
0:12:52 > 0:12:55Well, to be honest, there's a lot we don't get, too...
0:12:55 > 0:12:57Look, I know you're Karen's mate,
0:12:57 > 0:13:00but if there's ever anything you think we should know...
0:13:01 > 0:13:04Yeah, well, like you say, she's me mate.
0:13:04 > 0:13:07And you're loyal to your mates, I'm sure.
0:13:07 > 0:13:10But I'm sure you want the truth as much as we do.
0:13:14 > 0:13:16Yeah, right.
0:13:19 > 0:13:21- Are they back? - Yeah.
0:13:21 > 0:13:23- How's Shannon? - They ain't got her.
0:13:23 > 0:13:25You what?
0:13:33 > 0:13:36I don't get it. Why won't they let her back?
0:13:36 > 0:13:38- They wouldn't tell us. - That's fucking ridiculous.
0:13:38 > 0:13:41Unless there's summat t'police aren't happy with, Karen.
0:13:41 > 0:13:43- What you talking about? - How were Shannon, anyway?
0:13:43 > 0:13:45We didn't see her.
0:13:45 > 0:13:47- Jesus, why not? - They said it were procedure.
0:13:47 > 0:13:48Procedure?
0:13:48 > 0:13:50- She's your child, you can insist! - I daren't, Julie.
0:13:50 > 0:13:53So what have you been doing all this time, if you haven't seen her?
0:13:53 > 0:13:55They've been mithering us t'death wi' questions.
0:13:55 > 0:13:57- With what questions? - About Mick Donovan and that.
0:13:57 > 0:14:00- But I thought you said you didn't know him?- I must have met him at the funeral,
0:14:00 > 0:14:03- but I didn't even know his name or nowt.- But you sat on his knee?
0:14:03 > 0:14:04Will you stop going on about that, Natalie?
0:14:04 > 0:14:07- Yeah, what were you doing it for? - Get off, will ya!
0:14:07 > 0:14:09- Well, you embarrassed him. - I dunno. I were probably pissed.
0:14:09 > 0:14:12It's always t'same, it's always me people take it out on!
0:14:12 > 0:14:15I get bullied, and pushed around and I'm sick of it.
0:14:16 > 0:14:18Move! Move!
0:14:20 > 0:14:23But you've told t'truth, haven't you? You wouldn't lie to the police.
0:14:23 > 0:14:24No!
0:14:24 > 0:14:26Or to us?
0:14:26 > 0:14:28Course not, Julie! I'd never lie to you.
0:14:28 > 0:14:30You're me best friend.
0:14:31 > 0:14:34Then it'll all be all right.
0:14:34 > 0:14:36We'll have Shannon home back before you know it...
0:14:36 > 0:14:39And in t'meantime, we've got the, "Tree For Shannon"
0:14:39 > 0:14:43- to look forward to.- Thanks, Julie. Dunno what I'd do without you.
0:14:43 > 0:14:45KAREN SNIFFLES AND SIGHS
0:15:06 > 0:15:11OK, everyone. We're gathered here for a very special occasion.
0:15:11 > 0:15:14It's an event that is many things.
0:15:14 > 0:15:17It's a celebration that Shannon's been found.
0:15:17 > 0:15:21Of the magnificent way this community has come together to love
0:15:21 > 0:15:25and support Karen and her family through their terrible ordeal.
0:15:25 > 0:15:30We're now going to plant this tree as an act of thanksgiving...
0:15:30 > 0:15:34and a symbol of what's happened here, for years to come.
0:15:34 > 0:15:36Julie...
0:15:38 > 0:15:40Here you are, Karen.
0:15:43 > 0:15:46CHEERING
0:15:51 > 0:15:53# Kum ba yah, my Lord,
0:15:53 > 0:15:55# Kum ba yah!
0:15:55 > 0:15:59# Kum ba yah, my Lord Kum ba yah! #
0:15:59 > 0:16:01That's Julie's trademark. Balloons.
0:16:01 > 0:16:03# Kum ba yah, my Lord
0:16:03 > 0:16:05# Kum ba yah
0:16:06 > 0:16:09# O Lord, Kum ba yah... #
0:16:21 > 0:16:24How come the police don't let Shannon home?
0:16:24 > 0:16:25I don't know.
0:16:25 > 0:16:27They can't still be talking to her about what happened.
0:16:27 > 0:16:29Yeah, there must be summat else.
0:16:29 > 0:16:31Like what? Why assume it's some sinister reason.
0:16:31 > 0:16:35We're only asking what a lot of people on the estate are asking.
0:16:35 > 0:16:37- Well, they can ask all they bloody like!- No need t'get narky wi' us!
0:16:37 > 0:16:39- I'm not!- You are, Mum!
0:16:39 > 0:16:42It's us that's backed you up right through all this.
0:16:42 > 0:16:45Even though you've hardly done owt for us ever since it all kicked off.
0:16:45 > 0:16:46You what? That's bloody cobblers!
0:16:46 > 0:16:49It's true, it's been Shannon, Shannon, Shannon,
0:16:49 > 0:16:50ever since it all kicked off!
0:16:50 > 0:16:52We've hardly seen you.
0:16:52 > 0:16:54Well, you're seeing me now, aren't you?
0:16:54 > 0:16:56But why are you still so obsessed with her?
0:16:56 > 0:16:59You'll understand when you've had kiddies.
0:17:03 > 0:17:05Oh, now what's gone off?
0:17:05 > 0:17:07Here. Hold them.
0:17:07 > 0:17:09Bloody hell. That's what I mean!
0:17:09 > 0:17:11Sod off!
0:17:18 > 0:17:21- Craig's been arrested. - What for?
0:17:21 > 0:17:22Porn.
0:17:23 > 0:17:25What do you mean, porn?
0:17:25 > 0:17:28They've found porn on his computer.
0:17:29 > 0:17:32What kind of porn? Karen?
0:17:32 > 0:17:34I don't know! They've not told me owt.
0:17:34 > 0:17:36I'm afraid I can't talk about the reasons for his arrest.
0:17:36 > 0:17:39But the thing is, Karen's due to have her first proper contact with
0:17:39 > 0:17:42Shannon today.
0:17:42 > 0:17:43I didn't know.
0:17:43 > 0:17:45They told me not to tell anyone.
0:17:45 > 0:17:48Obviously, it's difficult timing but we don't want to let Shannon down.
0:17:48 > 0:17:51We need someone to look after her other kids.
0:17:51 > 0:17:54- I can do that. - And I'll help out an' all.
0:17:54 > 0:17:56Karen?
0:17:56 > 0:17:59Thanks, Julie. You're always there for me.
0:17:59 > 0:18:02It's all right, love, don't worry. The kids will be fine wi' us.
0:18:02 > 0:18:03Thanks a lot, yeah.
0:18:19 > 0:18:22People don't get arrested for porn.
0:18:22 > 0:18:25- They do if it's kiddy porn. - You think that's what it is?
0:18:25 > 0:18:27It's gotta be.
0:18:28 > 0:18:30Do you really think he's a paedo?
0:18:31 > 0:18:35If he's even looking at kiddy porn, he's a paedo in my book.
0:18:35 > 0:18:38You can't tell, can you?
0:18:38 > 0:18:40Can't tell what?
0:18:40 > 0:18:43If someone's a paedo, just by looking at 'em.
0:18:44 > 0:18:48Yeah, well, you can't tell who their victims are either.
0:18:49 > 0:18:52No, but... Sometimes you look at someone and...
0:18:53 > 0:18:55..you wonder.
0:18:57 > 0:18:58Yeah, maybe...
0:19:01 > 0:19:02Maybe so.
0:19:06 > 0:19:08Who were it?
0:19:11 > 0:19:13Baby-sitter. When I were six.
0:19:15 > 0:19:17What happened?
0:19:19 > 0:19:20Sexually assaulted me...
0:19:25 > 0:19:27I just remember me brother and sister battering on t'door,
0:19:27 > 0:19:29wondering what were going on.
0:19:29 > 0:19:31Jesus, Natalie, I'm sorry.
0:19:34 > 0:19:37It's a long time ago. You try and move on.
0:19:42 > 0:19:44Yeah. You do, don't you?
0:19:47 > 0:19:48What, you too?
0:19:52 > 0:19:54Me Dad. All through me childhood.
0:19:58 > 0:20:01For better or worse, I said nowt...
0:20:01 > 0:20:03and years later he remarried -
0:20:03 > 0:20:04lass with kids.
0:20:06 > 0:20:09I looked at those kids at the wedding reception and I thought -
0:20:09 > 0:20:11"You can't risk them going through what you did."
0:20:11 > 0:20:13So I went to t'police.
0:20:13 > 0:20:14Bloody hell.
0:20:14 > 0:20:16He got eight years.
0:20:21 > 0:20:23Brave or what?
0:20:23 > 0:20:25No, not brave.
0:20:26 > 0:20:29Just wanted to try and protect them kiddies.
0:20:38 > 0:20:39PHONE RINGS
0:20:41 > 0:20:43Hello?
0:20:43 > 0:20:45Speaking...
0:20:48 > 0:20:49What, she wants me there?
0:20:52 > 0:20:55Yeah, yeah, I can do that. But why?
0:20:58 > 0:21:02OK, what about this orange one? Put that on.
0:21:02 > 0:21:05I've already given 'em a proper dinner, they don't need crap.
0:21:09 > 0:21:11What's all this about?
0:21:11 > 0:21:13I'm afraid we can't say till Karen arrives.
0:21:13 > 0:21:15I weren't born yesterday. I can see what's coming.
0:21:15 > 0:21:17Karen has to be told first.
0:21:17 > 0:21:18DOOR OPENS
0:21:20 > 0:21:21Hiya, Julie.
0:21:21 > 0:21:23Hiya, Karen love.
0:21:23 > 0:21:24- Hiya, darlings.- Hi.
0:21:29 > 0:21:32What's happening, then?
0:21:32 > 0:21:34Shall we move through here?
0:21:34 > 0:21:35What for?
0:21:37 > 0:21:39Just do as she asks, Karen, love, go on.
0:21:39 > 0:21:42- What's going on? - It's all right. Let's go in here.
0:21:43 > 0:21:45Take a seat...
0:21:46 > 0:21:48Sit down here, love.
0:21:54 > 0:21:55Karen...
0:21:56 > 0:22:00..we're going to have to ask you to give up your children.
0:22:00 > 0:22:02What do you mean, give 'em up?
0:22:02 > 0:22:04You're aware Craig's been charged with possessing child pornography?
0:22:04 > 0:22:07I've already explained that to Karen.
0:22:07 > 0:22:10In the light of that, we feel it's in the children's best interests
0:22:10 > 0:22:13if we look after them while Craig goes through his court case.
0:22:13 > 0:22:16- No! You're not having me kids! - For their own protection.
0:22:16 > 0:22:17But it's Craig been arrested, not me!
0:22:17 > 0:22:21And hostility towards him on the estate might easily turn towards you.
0:22:21 > 0:22:24- We cannot risk the children being exposed to that.- No! You're not having 'em!
0:22:24 > 0:22:28- Hopefully, this is just a temporary measure.- Karen...- No! You're not taking 'em!
0:22:28 > 0:22:30Karen, love, if you don't give 'em up voluntarily,
0:22:30 > 0:22:33- they'll just take them anyway. - I can't give 'em up, Julie!
0:22:33 > 0:22:34Listen to me!
0:22:34 > 0:22:37If you don't agree, you'll never get 'em back.
0:22:37 > 0:22:40Let 'em go and you have a chance.
0:22:40 > 0:22:43- But they're me babies! - I know, love, I know.
0:22:45 > 0:22:47Will you... Will...
0:22:47 > 0:22:50Can they not at least go and live with you, Julie?
0:22:50 > 0:22:52I'd love that, but they'd never agree.
0:22:52 > 0:22:55If you'd like to go back in and say goodbye to them now.
0:22:55 > 0:22:56Oh, no...
0:22:56 > 0:22:58Come on, Karen, love, they'll be OK.
0:22:58 > 0:23:02No, I don't want to leave me babies! No, I can't...
0:23:04 > 0:23:06- Come on Karen, love. - No, I don't want to leave me babies.
0:23:06 > 0:23:08Come on, you can do it, love.
0:23:08 > 0:23:11I'm not leaving 'em, I don't want to leave 'em...
0:23:11 > 0:23:13Come on, love, you can do it.
0:23:13 > 0:23:16I don't want to...
0:23:16 > 0:23:18Come on, Karen, you can do it, love.
0:23:27 > 0:23:31How were Karen when she saw Shannon?
0:23:31 > 0:23:34Sort of...blank.
0:23:34 > 0:23:37Well, she'll have been in shock over what happened to Craig.
0:23:37 > 0:23:39I don't know if that explains it.
0:23:39 > 0:23:42Well, she weren't blank when the Social took her kids,
0:23:42 > 0:23:43it tore her heart out.
0:23:44 > 0:23:45Oh, cheers, love.
0:23:45 > 0:23:47Thank you.
0:23:47 > 0:23:49I'm glad you know when she's acting and when she isn't,
0:23:49 > 0:23:51because sometimes I struggle.
0:23:51 > 0:23:53Yeah, well, Natalie says that, and the others.
0:23:53 > 0:23:55Bottom line is, Karen can be a div,
0:23:55 > 0:23:57but she's told the truth about Shannon.
0:23:57 > 0:23:59Are you sure?
0:23:59 > 0:24:00Can't find anywhere, Karen.
0:24:01 > 0:24:03You what?
0:24:03 > 0:24:05I'm still trying to find somewhere for you to stay.
0:24:05 > 0:24:07I've tried your parents.
0:24:07 > 0:24:08I've told yer, they won't have me.
0:24:08 > 0:24:11They said I'm dead to 'em since I got with Craig.
0:24:11 > 0:24:13I've tried other family, women's refuges, hostels,
0:24:13 > 0:24:15I can't find anyone.
0:24:15 > 0:24:18Why can't I just go home? Or stop at Julie's?
0:24:18 > 0:24:20You can't go back to the estate.
0:24:20 > 0:24:23- Why can't she? - We can't guarantee her safety.
0:24:23 > 0:24:25How do you mean?
0:24:25 > 0:24:28Because of Craig being arrested. It'll be all over the estate.
0:24:28 > 0:24:31You think we'll go turn into a lynch mob?
0:24:31 > 0:24:33No. But we can't risk it.
0:24:33 > 0:24:36You're in luck. Your brother's agreed you can stop with him.
0:24:36 > 0:24:37But he hates me an' all.
0:24:41 > 0:24:42KAREN SIGHS
0:24:56 > 0:24:59- We're calling him Liam. - Has he had his first shit yet?
0:24:59 > 0:25:00Hey, shut up, you.
0:25:02 > 0:25:05Here have a hold, Mum.
0:25:05 > 0:25:08You know me, I'm not sentimental about babies.
0:25:08 > 0:25:10Who are you kidding? Hold your grandson.
0:25:13 > 0:25:14BABY GURGLES
0:25:18 > 0:25:20All right.
0:25:20 > 0:25:21THEY CHUCKLE
0:25:21 > 0:25:25Aww, oh, what a little cracker.
0:25:25 > 0:25:27BABY GURGLES
0:26:01 > 0:26:03You all right, Natalie?
0:26:03 > 0:26:05Yeah. I'm just off to Asda.
0:26:05 > 0:26:06I'll give you a lift.
0:26:17 > 0:26:20'Well, it's hard to sleep, really, it's just...
0:26:20 > 0:26:22'House doesn't feel the same without...'
0:26:22 > 0:26:25..her not being there, really...
0:26:25 > 0:26:26It just...
0:26:26 > 0:26:28Just feels empty...
0:26:29 > 0:26:33Whoever's got Shannon, please, let her go...
0:26:33 > 0:26:36Her family's missing her, all her friends are missing her at school.
0:26:37 > 0:26:40REPORTER: Have you any idea who may have her?
0:26:41 > 0:26:47I think that...someone out there... who knows Shannon...
0:26:47 > 0:26:50but probably...knows me as well.
0:26:50 > 0:26:52What you watching that for, anyway?
0:26:52 > 0:26:53I just want her home safe, really.
0:26:53 > 0:26:56Belt up and make me a brew, will you?
0:26:56 > 0:26:58- But Shannon's found. - Brew! Now.
0:26:58 > 0:27:01I just can't trust 'em.
0:27:01 > 0:27:05REPORTER: Can you recall the last words you and Shannon exchanged?
0:27:05 > 0:27:08"Bye, Mum. Love you."
0:27:12 > 0:27:14CAMERAS CLICK
0:27:22 > 0:27:25Look, I have told you everything I know and everything I've seen.
0:27:25 > 0:27:27And I can tell you're not happy.
0:27:29 > 0:27:31I mean, we've both seen things that have made us suspicious.
0:27:31 > 0:27:34We both think she knows more than she's saying.
0:27:34 > 0:27:36Yeah, but you're the copper.
0:27:36 > 0:27:37It's your job to find out what it is.
0:27:37 > 0:27:39I've tried, Natalie.
0:27:39 > 0:27:42I've asked her questions till I'm blue in the face.
0:27:43 > 0:27:46The whole force is under a lot of pressure.
0:27:48 > 0:27:51This has been our biggest inquiry since the Ripper.
0:27:51 > 0:27:54We've spent millions and we've still not really got any answers.
0:27:54 > 0:27:56Yeah, but what can I do?
0:27:56 > 0:27:58Try and get through to her.
0:27:58 > 0:28:00Tell her she owes you the truth as a mate.
0:28:00 > 0:28:03How? She's not picking up me calls. She won't answer me texts.
0:28:03 > 0:28:05I don't even think we are mates any more.
0:28:05 > 0:28:08And it's cos I keep asking her awkward questions.
0:28:08 > 0:28:12Well, none of us are going to be happy till we do have the truth.
0:28:14 > 0:28:17I feel like bloody thumping her, to be honest!
0:28:20 > 0:28:22Thanks for the lift.
0:28:35 > 0:28:37Oh! Oh, you shouldn't have.
0:28:37 > 0:28:41I wanted to. Not every day me best mate becomes a grandma...
0:28:42 > 0:28:45We are best mates, aren't we?
0:28:45 > 0:28:48- Natalie's your best mate. - No, you are now.
0:28:50 > 0:28:54- Can't be easy for you, though. - What?
0:28:54 > 0:28:57Me prattling on about me new grandson. And you wi'out your kids.
0:28:57 > 0:29:00You must be missing them like mad.
0:29:00 > 0:29:02Yeah, I'm missing them like mad.
0:29:03 > 0:29:04Do you mean that, Karen?
0:29:04 > 0:29:06Course.
0:29:06 > 0:29:07Missing 'em like mad.
0:29:12 > 0:29:15Yeah, you're right! It's me!
0:29:15 > 0:29:18- Karen, what you doing? - What do you mean?
0:29:18 > 0:29:20Drawing attention to yourself.
0:29:20 > 0:29:24Well, I were only waving. They must have recognised me from t'telly.
0:29:24 > 0:29:27Well, all that's over now. Shannon's been found.
0:29:27 > 0:29:29You don't need any publicity any more.
0:29:29 > 0:29:31But I like it when people recognise me.
0:29:31 > 0:29:34Karen, pack it in!
0:29:34 > 0:29:36You should be concentrating on getting your life back on track,
0:29:36 > 0:29:38not farting around like some daft celebrity.
0:29:38 > 0:29:40Don't get mad with me, Julie! Please!
0:29:40 > 0:29:42Well, you need to start acting like a grown-up!
0:29:42 > 0:29:45Otherwise, you'll never get Shannon back, or your other kids!
0:29:45 > 0:29:47- I know, I know. - That is what you want, innit?
0:29:47 > 0:29:49- Course it is. - Are you sure?
0:29:49 > 0:29:52Honest. Why would I lie to you, Julie?
0:29:52 > 0:29:55- I'd never lie to you.- About anything?- No, never.
0:29:56 > 0:29:58And you've never lied to me about Shannon?
0:29:58 > 0:30:01No, course not!
0:30:01 > 0:30:04Will you stop being mad wi' me now? Please?
0:30:10 > 0:30:12Hey, that's lovely.
0:30:14 > 0:30:16Yeah, look,
0:30:16 > 0:30:19I know I'm a... I'm a right tight arse but here...
0:30:19 > 0:30:21- Oh, Julie! You can't give me that. - Go on. Put it on.
0:30:24 > 0:30:27Oh...
0:30:27 > 0:30:28It's fab.
0:30:30 > 0:30:31SHE SNIFFLES
0:30:32 > 0:30:34Aw, thanks so much.
0:30:37 > 0:30:38Mates for ever, eh?
0:30:46 > 0:30:48Do you fancy an all-day breakfast?
0:30:48 > 0:30:49Yeah. Yeah. Go on.
0:30:54 > 0:30:56PHONE CHIMES
0:31:12 > 0:31:14Look, we both know she's been lying to us.
0:31:14 > 0:31:16- Lying about what, though? - I don't know.
0:31:16 > 0:31:19Well, if police haven't got her to admit she's doing owt wrong,
0:31:19 > 0:31:21maybe there's nowt to admit to?
0:31:21 > 0:31:23You don't really believe that, Julie.
0:31:23 > 0:31:25Or you wouldn't have come round here.
0:31:25 > 0:31:29I think it's eating away at you just as much as it is me.
0:31:29 > 0:31:31All right. Fair enough.
0:31:31 > 0:31:34Yeah, but what do we do?
0:31:34 > 0:31:37Well, we have it out with her. You and me.
0:31:37 > 0:31:40- Once and for all. - How? She's not allowed on t'estate.
0:31:40 > 0:31:43And even if she were, she wouldn't speak to me.
0:31:43 > 0:31:45She knows I think there's something she's hiding,
0:31:45 > 0:31:46and she's shit scared of me!
0:31:46 > 0:31:50There's got to be a way, Natalie. I can't stand this any more.
0:31:55 > 0:31:56They should be here by now.
0:31:56 > 0:31:58Calm down, Julie.
0:31:58 > 0:31:59Christine said it were her day off.
0:31:59 > 0:32:03- If she said she'll do it, she will. - Yeah, but suppose Karen refused?
0:32:06 > 0:32:09She hasn't. Look...
0:32:25 > 0:32:28Natalie's not going to batter me, is she?
0:32:28 > 0:32:30Course not. They just want a chat.
0:32:36 > 0:32:37KAREN BREATHES HEAVILY
0:32:46 > 0:32:48All right, Karen?
0:32:48 > 0:32:50Yeah, I'm all right, Julie.
0:32:50 > 0:32:52- You're me friend, aren't you, Karen? - Yeah.
0:32:52 > 0:32:55- And your Natalie's friend? - Yeah.
0:32:55 > 0:32:58And you said, friends don't lie to each other.
0:32:58 > 0:33:00- Didn't you? - Did I?
0:33:00 > 0:33:02Yeah, you did.
0:33:02 > 0:33:03And er, the thing about friends is...
0:33:03 > 0:33:06You can tell them absolutely anything?
0:33:06 > 0:33:08I suppose. I still don't know why we're doing this.
0:33:08 > 0:33:11- Because we've got some questions. - Like what?
0:33:11 > 0:33:14Did you know where Shannon was? All that time she were with Mick Donovan?
0:33:14 > 0:33:15No! I keep telling everyone.
0:33:15 > 0:33:17I know that's what you keep telling everyone.
0:33:17 > 0:33:20But if the truth's summat different, we want to know.
0:33:20 > 0:33:23There's rumours going round estate, you did know.
0:33:23 > 0:33:24They're not true.
0:33:24 > 0:33:27There's rumours going round estate, you and Donovan planned it,
0:33:27 > 0:33:29to get reward money.
0:33:29 > 0:33:31That's lies. I'd never have done that to Shannon for money.
0:33:31 > 0:33:34- Is there some other reason why you'd do it?- What other reason could there be?
0:33:34 > 0:33:37- I don't know. - That's why she's asking.
0:33:37 > 0:33:38Is it owt to do with Craig?
0:33:38 > 0:33:41I don't want to talk about Craig! I fucking hate him.
0:33:41 > 0:33:42Why, cos of kiddy porn?
0:33:42 > 0:33:45I hated him before that! I've hated him for ages!
0:33:45 > 0:33:48- He's ruined me whole fuckin' life! - Why?
0:33:48 > 0:33:51Weren't you happy about how he were wi' your kids?
0:33:51 > 0:33:54I don't want to talk about it! I wish I'd never fuckin' met him!
0:33:54 > 0:33:56Because when you came to stay at my house,
0:33:56 > 0:33:59I didn't think t'kids liked being around him at all.
0:33:59 > 0:34:01Didn't you trust him with 'em, Karen?
0:34:01 > 0:34:04I wouldn't stay with a fella I didn't trust with me kids.
0:34:04 > 0:34:05I didn't want to do it!
0:34:07 > 0:34:09KAREN SOBS
0:34:10 > 0:34:13I didn't know how else to get out of it...
0:34:14 > 0:34:16Get out of what? Being wi' Craig?
0:34:17 > 0:34:19Karen, answer.
0:34:19 > 0:34:22That were the day I were thinking of doing it!
0:34:22 > 0:34:25What, you mean the day Shannon disappeared?
0:34:25 > 0:34:28I had me bags packed and everything! But it all went wrong.
0:34:28 > 0:34:30- How? - Cos of Craig!
0:34:30 > 0:34:31How do you mean?
0:34:31 > 0:34:33I were going to leave while he were at work,
0:34:33 > 0:34:35but he never went in that day.
0:34:35 > 0:34:38I couldn't leave wi'out t'kids, and Shannon were already at Mick's.
0:34:38 > 0:34:40Yeah, but why Mick's?
0:34:40 > 0:34:43I were just desperate to get away from Craig.
0:34:43 > 0:34:46I couldn't go to me mum's. I hardly even knew Mick Donovan,
0:34:46 > 0:34:49but he said me and the kids could stop wi' him for a few days...
0:34:49 > 0:34:52I didn't know what else to do.
0:34:52 > 0:34:53So, that was the plan?
0:34:53 > 0:34:56Mick, he'd pick Shannon up from school and then you'd leave
0:34:56 > 0:34:59home later wi' the kids and join them, but you couldn't?
0:34:59 > 0:35:00I cou...
0:35:00 > 0:35:03Craig was still in the house. I were trapped...
0:35:03 > 0:35:05I didn't know what to do.
0:35:05 > 0:35:08After she didn't come home from school, it got worse.
0:35:08 > 0:35:12People saying - "Where is she? Do this, do that.
0:35:12 > 0:35:14"Ring here, ring there."
0:35:14 > 0:35:18Then someone said - "You'd best ring 999."
0:35:18 > 0:35:20So I did and...
0:35:20 > 0:35:21And what, Karen?
0:35:21 > 0:35:25It all got out of hand. One thing led to another.
0:35:25 > 0:35:27You couldn't stop it?
0:35:27 > 0:35:31You couldn't bring yourself to say you'd told a big fat lie?
0:35:32 > 0:35:34Karen, answer.
0:35:36 > 0:35:38- WAILING:- Yes...!
0:35:41 > 0:35:44..it's true...
0:35:45 > 0:35:48I knew where she were all along and I should have said...
0:35:48 > 0:35:51I know I should, but I didn't know how...
0:35:52 > 0:35:56I kept thinkin' Mick'd just hand her in and it'd all be over.
0:35:58 > 0:36:01Everyone's going to hate me now.
0:36:05 > 0:36:07I feel sick.
0:36:11 > 0:36:15I, I've done the right thing, haven't I, Julie? Telling you?
0:36:16 > 0:36:19You, you're still me friend?
0:36:20 > 0:36:22Julie?!
0:36:23 > 0:36:24Julie?
0:36:26 > 0:36:27SHE SOBS
0:36:44 > 0:36:48Karen Matthews, you are charged, firstly, that between the
0:36:48 > 0:36:5118th of February and the 15th of March, 2008,
0:36:51 > 0:36:54having responsibility for a child, namely Shannon Matthews,
0:36:54 > 0:36:58you wilfully neglected or abandoned the said child in
0:36:58 > 0:37:03a manner likely to cause unnecessary suffering or injury to her health.
0:37:03 > 0:37:06Secondly, that between the 18th of February and
0:37:06 > 0:37:09the 15th of March, 2008, at Dewsbury,
0:37:09 > 0:37:12contrary to Common Law, you did pervert the course of
0:37:12 > 0:37:15public justice by repeatedly concealing information as to the
0:37:15 > 0:37:18whereabouts of Shannon Matthews.
0:37:19 > 0:37:22CLAMOUR
0:37:24 > 0:37:26COW!
0:37:27 > 0:37:30ABUSIVE SHOUTING
0:37:35 > 0:37:37To think I had her staying in my house!
0:37:37 > 0:37:39I let that pervert Craig near my kids!
0:37:39 > 0:37:42We were supposed to be her friends. I mean, I feel used, don't you?
0:37:42 > 0:37:44She's took the piss out of all of us!
0:37:44 > 0:37:46And you helped her!
0:37:46 > 0:37:47Oh, shit out your mouth, you!
0:37:47 > 0:37:48Yeah, well, he's right, though Julie.
0:37:48 > 0:37:51I mean, you carried on helping her when it was plain as t'nose
0:37:51 > 0:37:54on your face that she were involved. Why?
0:37:54 > 0:37:57Cos I thought it were t'right thing to do, that's why.
0:37:57 > 0:37:58For what, for her or for you?
0:37:58 > 0:38:01- What do you mean?- Well, you liked being the centre of attention, didn't you?
0:38:01 > 0:38:03The Queen Bee. You didn't want to let it go.
0:38:03 > 0:38:05We trusted you, Julie!
0:38:05 > 0:38:08Oh, fuck off, Natalie! Fuck off, all of you!
0:38:09 > 0:38:13ABUSIVE SHOUTING
0:38:13 > 0:38:15Fuck off!
0:38:40 > 0:38:41Shitty enough for you, is it?
0:38:41 > 0:38:43Or do you want me to spray some more on?
0:38:43 > 0:38:45Yeah, that's right, go on! Get me an' all!
0:38:45 > 0:38:49I've got a pair of mingin' trackie bottoms at home with the arse hanging out.
0:38:49 > 0:38:52Do you want me to put them on for you? Go on, go down that way.
0:38:52 > 0:38:54I'm sure you'll find an old three-piece suite in someone's
0:38:54 > 0:38:57front garden - that'll give you a front page, that, won't it?
0:38:57 > 0:38:59Shit off!
0:39:03 > 0:39:06You've not changed nothing, you know, Julie.
0:39:06 > 0:39:10They still think we're all council house scum like Karen Matthews.
0:39:10 > 0:39:12Oh, fucking sling it, Cecil!
0:39:52 > 0:39:54I've just been to Shannon's school to see the headmaster.
0:39:54 > 0:39:56Why?
0:39:56 > 0:39:59Cos all her classmates and them other kids...
0:39:59 > 0:40:02They're expecting Shannon back.
0:40:02 > 0:40:05It's not going to happen now, is it?
0:40:05 > 0:40:08I mean, she's one of them, they care about her...
0:40:08 > 0:40:11I think they should have counselling.
0:40:11 > 0:40:12And what did the Head say?
0:40:12 > 0:40:16Wouldn't do it. They don't have the resources.
0:40:16 > 0:40:19So there's only one other thing I could do.
0:40:19 > 0:40:21What's that?
0:40:21 > 0:40:23Ask police to put Shannon in a car -
0:40:23 > 0:40:25drive her through the estate.
0:40:25 > 0:40:27You know, so they can see her...
0:40:28 > 0:40:31That way, even though she's not coming back...they'll know...
0:40:31 > 0:40:33They'll know she's alive.
0:40:37 > 0:40:40Oh, I've let 'em down, Kathy.
0:40:40 > 0:40:43Julie, you did everything you could. We all did.
0:40:45 > 0:40:46Sorry.
0:40:46 > 0:40:48It's all right.
0:40:50 > 0:40:52I wish I had faith like you.
0:40:53 > 0:40:55I used to. It were easier then.
0:40:58 > 0:41:00But it got smashed to pieces.
0:41:01 > 0:41:03How?
0:41:07 > 0:41:13I, er, I lost a little lad. Andrew. Cot death.
0:41:16 > 0:41:19Christened him at four months and he were dead at six...
0:41:23 > 0:41:26I'm so sorry.
0:41:26 > 0:41:27JULIE CLEARS THROAT
0:41:27 > 0:41:29Thank you.
0:41:32 > 0:41:35You may have lost your faith in God,
0:41:35 > 0:41:38but you haven't lost your faith in people.
0:41:39 > 0:41:40Have you?
0:41:43 > 0:41:44Not so sure about that.
0:41:46 > 0:41:48Not now.
0:42:17 > 0:42:20- Not much use for this lot now, eh? - You must be feeling a bit shit.
0:42:20 > 0:42:21Yeah, you could say.
0:42:21 > 0:42:24Broken Britain, we are, apparently... And this,
0:42:24 > 0:42:26that you lot have put out...
0:42:27 > 0:42:31Vigilante action against who? Karen's gone. It's ridiculous.
0:42:31 > 0:42:34Most of us are more depressed than angry.
0:42:36 > 0:42:39Anyway, you did us a big favour, you and Natalie.
0:42:39 > 0:42:42Proper Cagney & Lacey. You got to the truth.
0:42:42 > 0:42:44Did we?
0:42:44 > 0:42:46What, all of it?
0:42:47 > 0:42:49Look...
0:42:49 > 0:42:53I honestly think that what she said in the car was true.
0:42:53 > 0:42:56She were desperate to leave Craig, she had no money,
0:42:56 > 0:42:59no friends or family she could turn to.
0:42:59 > 0:43:02Donovan offered her to let her stay with him.
0:43:02 > 0:43:04Probably thought he could use her like other fellas have -
0:43:04 > 0:43:06get a few shags out of her.
0:43:06 > 0:43:07But then what?
0:43:07 > 0:43:11After that first night Shannon went missing - what happened then?
0:43:13 > 0:43:16Karen's now denying she knew anything about any of it.
0:43:16 > 0:43:19She won't even admit to what she said in the car.
0:43:19 > 0:43:23She's pointed the finger at all kinds of people - everybody...
0:43:23 > 0:43:24apart from herself.
0:43:24 > 0:43:26Just keeps digging herself in deeper and deeper.
0:43:26 > 0:43:29But her and Donovan, they're too thick to have come up with this by
0:43:29 > 0:43:31themselves, aren't they?
0:43:31 > 0:43:33I'd have to agree.
0:43:36 > 0:43:38Well, then, so who else were in on it?
0:43:40 > 0:43:43- Craig? - No, I honestly don't think so.
0:43:43 > 0:43:45Well, who, then?
0:43:46 > 0:43:48Not people from t'estate?
0:43:48 > 0:43:51I'm not going to speculate.
0:43:51 > 0:43:52We have our suspicions,
0:43:52 > 0:43:55and we've investigated various individuals but...
0:43:55 > 0:43:57found no evidence.
0:43:57 > 0:44:00If Karen'd stop telling story after story, then maybe we
0:44:00 > 0:44:02could get to the bottom of it. But she won't.
0:44:03 > 0:44:05I'm afraid she's made her own bed,
0:44:05 > 0:44:07now she's going to have to lie in it.
0:44:51 > 0:44:55We can't just pretend everything's still the same.
0:44:55 > 0:44:56But you've come.
0:44:58 > 0:45:00You're me only friend now.
0:45:01 > 0:45:03Just tell me it's all right.
0:45:04 > 0:45:06How can I tell you it's all right?
0:45:06 > 0:45:09After everything you've done to Shannon.
0:45:09 > 0:45:10I'm sorry.
0:45:11 > 0:45:13Say you'll forgive me.
0:45:13 > 0:45:16It's Shannon's forgiveness you should be asking.
0:45:16 > 0:45:18What you did to her was much worse than what you did to me.
0:45:18 > 0:45:21- I can't even think about that. - Yeah, well, you should.
0:45:21 > 0:45:23You've got the rest of your life to at least try
0:45:23 > 0:45:25and earn that forgiveness.
0:45:25 > 0:45:27I don't know how.
0:45:27 > 0:45:29Good place to start is wi' t'truth.
0:45:29 > 0:45:31I have told the truth.
0:45:31 > 0:45:33And are you still tellin' it now, in here?
0:45:33 > 0:45:36I can't remember what I've said.
0:45:36 > 0:45:38It's not a matter of remembering what you said.
0:45:38 > 0:45:40It's saying what happened.
0:45:40 > 0:45:43It weren't my fault, it were all down to Mick Donovan.
0:45:43 > 0:45:45I've done nowt wrong. None of it were my fault.
0:45:45 > 0:45:48Look, Karen, I know you're frightened but you're not doin'
0:45:48 > 0:45:49yourself any favours.
0:45:49 > 0:45:51I...
0:45:51 > 0:45:54I know I'm bad... Weak... But...
0:45:54 > 0:45:57I know that somewhere inside me there's someone who could be strong,
0:45:57 > 0:46:00who knows right from wrong... I just...
0:46:00 > 0:46:01can't seem to be that person.
0:46:01 > 0:46:03Well, bloody well try harder, Karen!
0:46:03 > 0:46:05I'm not like you, Julie... I wish I was...
0:46:05 > 0:46:07but I'm not.
0:46:08 > 0:46:10Just say you'll forgive me.
0:46:16 > 0:46:18Look.
0:46:19 > 0:46:21What?
0:46:21 > 0:46:23It's that one what you give me.
0:46:25 > 0:46:27Mates forever, eh?
0:46:31 > 0:46:33What?
0:46:35 > 0:46:36It's not even the same one.
0:46:38 > 0:46:40Didn't think you'd notice.
0:46:43 > 0:46:46You can't even tell the truth about a thing like that, can you?
0:46:46 > 0:46:48But you still love me?
0:46:50 > 0:46:52Will you still forgive me?
0:47:03 > 0:47:05So, rather than tell this court the truth, Miss Matthews,
0:47:05 > 0:47:07you have simply come up with more lies.
0:47:07 > 0:47:09No, I haven't.
0:47:09 > 0:47:11You have, in fact, changed your story several times.
0:47:11 > 0:47:14- You're twisting it all round. - How am I doing that?
0:47:14 > 0:47:17You're pushing me round, like everyone does.
0:47:17 > 0:47:19If you were telling the truth, there would be only one account,
0:47:19 > 0:47:21would there not?
0:47:22 > 0:47:24I put it to you that you and Donovan hatched the plan
0:47:24 > 0:47:26to abduct Shannon, together.
0:47:28 > 0:47:31And when the reward money reached a certain figure, you and
0:47:31 > 0:47:36Michael Donovan agreed he would take Shannon to Dewsbury Police Station,
0:47:36 > 0:47:38claiming he had found her on the market?
0:47:38 > 0:47:41- It's not true. - Instead of admitting it,
0:47:41 > 0:47:43you've tried to implicate everyone except yourself.
0:47:43 > 0:47:45SHE SNIFFLES
0:47:48 > 0:47:50Why are you crying, Miss Matthews?
0:47:52 > 0:47:56I put it to you that those are not tears of genuine remorse,
0:47:56 > 0:47:59but of self-pity. Am I not right?
0:47:59 > 0:48:01No.
0:48:14 > 0:48:18Look, I just, I want to ask her... "Why?"
0:48:21 > 0:48:25Just remember, it were me that stuck me neck out and said what I thought.
0:48:25 > 0:48:27You, Julie and t'rest said nowt.
0:48:29 > 0:48:32Just thought I was being a nasty hard-faced cow.
0:48:53 > 0:48:54Natalie Brown.
0:49:07 > 0:49:09So, Karen told us someone said she should ring 999
0:49:09 > 0:49:11and report Shannon as missing.
0:49:13 > 0:49:16Then I asked her if one thing led to another after that and
0:49:16 > 0:49:20she just couldn't bring herself to admit it were all a massive lie.
0:49:22 > 0:49:25Julie and me were sat there in t'back of t'car
0:49:25 > 0:49:26willing her to admit t'truth.
0:49:28 > 0:49:32And then she takes this massive intake of breath.
0:49:32 > 0:49:34I've never heard owt like it...
0:49:35 > 0:49:38And then suddenly it...just comes out.
0:49:39 > 0:49:41She says, "Yeah...
0:49:43 > 0:49:45"..it's true."
0:49:47 > 0:49:48I was speechless.
0:49:51 > 0:49:54I was so disgusted by her, I couldn't find any words.
0:49:54 > 0:49:55Please stick to the facts, Mrs Brown,
0:49:55 > 0:49:57your feelings are not relevant.
0:49:57 > 0:49:59I can't help it. I just thought...
0:50:00 > 0:50:01"You liar!
0:50:06 > 0:50:09"How could you have done that to your own child?
0:50:09 > 0:50:12"How could you have told such a pack of lies to people
0:50:12 > 0:50:14"you called friends?"
0:50:14 > 0:50:16UPROAR
0:50:21 > 0:50:23JUDGE: Quiet, please.
0:50:25 > 0:50:26DOOR OPENS
0:50:26 > 0:50:28Julie Bushby.
0:50:28 > 0:50:31Mrs Bushby, you are about to give evidence as a witness,
0:50:31 > 0:50:33but prior to that, you have been asked to make
0:50:33 > 0:50:36a brief assessment about the character of Miss Matthews.
0:50:36 > 0:50:37Understood.
0:50:37 > 0:50:40The reason for this is whereas we have
0:50:40 > 0:50:43a number of professional assessments of her co-defendant's character,
0:50:43 > 0:50:46which may assist the jury, we have none for Miss Matthews.
0:50:46 > 0:50:48So, if you would, in your own words,
0:50:48 > 0:50:51tell the court what sort of person you believe her to be.
0:50:59 > 0:51:02Karen Matthews is weak, cowardly and a liar.
0:51:05 > 0:51:09She put her child through a horrible experience.
0:51:09 > 0:51:12She let down her community and people she said were her friends.
0:51:14 > 0:51:17And even when she eventually told t'truth she went back to
0:51:17 > 0:51:18lying to save her own skin.
0:51:21 > 0:51:24That's what you all want me to say, innit?
0:51:24 > 0:51:25And it is the truth...
0:51:26 > 0:51:29But it's a long way from t'whole truth.
0:51:30 > 0:51:33If you want to know the whole truth, you need to understand that Karen
0:51:33 > 0:51:36is damaged.
0:51:36 > 0:51:39She's been used and abused since childhood - don't ask
0:51:39 > 0:51:42me by who - but I'm sure the list of people's a long one.
0:51:42 > 0:51:45Most of them are men who used her for sex.
0:51:47 > 0:51:51Karen let them get away with it because she doesn't understand that
0:51:51 > 0:51:55sex isn't the same thing as love or affection, which is what she
0:51:55 > 0:51:57really wanted.
0:51:57 > 0:51:59And she knew she were being taken advantage of,
0:51:59 > 0:52:02that she were being weak to let them get away with it.
0:52:02 > 0:52:05She's been weak about a lot of things. She's told lies.
0:52:05 > 0:52:07She's let people down...
0:52:07 > 0:52:09But I will not join in with the lynch mob.
0:52:11 > 0:52:14Other people may want to use her as a human punchbag, because it
0:52:14 > 0:52:17makes them feel better about their own lies and shit that they get up to -
0:52:17 > 0:52:20but I'll not do it.
0:52:20 > 0:52:21I've stood by her before...
0:52:23 > 0:52:25And I'm standing by her now.
0:52:26 > 0:52:28She's still me friend.
0:52:39 > 0:52:42- Has the jury reached a verdict? - Yes, my lord.
0:52:42 > 0:52:44On the charge of kidnap and false imprisonment, do you find the
0:52:44 > 0:52:47defendant Karen Matthews guilty or not guilty?
0:52:47 > 0:52:48Guilty.
0:52:48 > 0:52:51On the charge of perverting the course of justice, do you find
0:52:51 > 0:52:54the defendant Karen Matthews guilty or not guilty?
0:52:54 > 0:52:55Guilty.
0:52:55 > 0:52:57CHEERING
0:53:03 > 0:53:05Karen Matthews is pure evil.
0:53:06 > 0:53:09She started deceiving those closest to her, from the very moment
0:53:09 > 0:53:11that Shannon was kidnapped.
0:53:11 > 0:53:14Friends, neighbours and family were under the clear impression
0:53:14 > 0:53:16that Shannon was genuinely missing.
0:53:16 > 0:53:19They had no reason....
0:54:07 > 0:54:09I've finished in the kitchen.
0:54:09 > 0:54:11Yeah, about four boxes left and then we are gone, that's all.
0:54:11 > 0:54:13All right.
0:54:17 > 0:54:19Natalie.
0:54:19 > 0:54:20All right.
0:54:23 > 0:54:26I'm er...moving off t'estate...
0:54:27 > 0:54:28Me and Pete split up.
0:54:29 > 0:54:31Shit, I'm sorry.
0:54:31 > 0:54:33It's probably been coming anyway.
0:54:36 > 0:54:37And I had to get away.
0:54:38 > 0:54:41Can't face walking past that every day of me life.
0:54:43 > 0:54:44Still...
0:54:45 > 0:54:48You have to make t'best of things, don't you?
0:54:51 > 0:54:52You all right?
0:54:57 > 0:54:59Er, no, not really.
0:55:01 > 0:55:03I just find it hard,
0:55:03 > 0:55:06you know, to think that all that goodwill and decency just...
0:55:06 > 0:55:07evaporated...
0:55:09 > 0:55:10It were all for nowt...
0:55:12 > 0:55:14It weren't for nowt, Julie.
0:55:14 > 0:55:16You stuck up for this place.
0:55:18 > 0:55:22You made people think again about what we're really like.
0:55:22 > 0:55:23Folk admired you for it.
0:55:26 > 0:55:28Yeah, well, I stood up for Karen too, though, didn't I?
0:55:28 > 0:55:30They didn't admire me for that.
0:55:31 > 0:55:33I did.
0:55:33 > 0:55:35But you hate her.
0:55:35 > 0:55:38No...I don't hate her.
0:55:40 > 0:55:42I'm angry with her.
0:55:42 > 0:55:45And I could never forgive like you have.
0:55:47 > 0:55:50But I'll not call you for finding it in you to do it.
0:55:50 > 0:55:53Or for standing up for her in court when t'rest of t'world wanted
0:55:53 > 0:55:55to hang her.
0:55:57 > 0:55:59That took real guts.
0:56:03 > 0:56:05Thanks.
0:56:05 > 0:56:07Only being honest, Julie.
0:56:07 > 0:56:11Yeah, well, there'd never have been owt for
0:56:11 > 0:56:13me to forgive if you'd not forced Karen to tell t'truth.
0:56:13 > 0:56:15We both did that.
0:56:15 > 0:56:17But you were t'one who pushed it.
0:56:17 > 0:56:20If you hadn't, we'd all still be living wi' Karen's lies.
0:56:29 > 0:56:31Well, er...
0:56:31 > 0:56:33good luck, then.
0:56:34 > 0:56:36You too, Julie.
0:56:53 > 0:56:55If you don't teach it to fly, foxes get 'em.
0:56:55 > 0:56:57Right, then. Let's see.
0:56:57 > 0:56:59Get more under it, Peter.
0:56:59 > 0:57:04You're lifting it in t'air, not aiming at a coconut shy.
0:57:04 > 0:57:07DUCK QUACKS
0:57:07 > 0:57:09Needs a bit more practice, by looks of it.
0:57:09 > 0:57:12Come on, you, you best get off to school.
0:57:12 > 0:57:13Oh, is he back in school?
0:57:13 > 0:57:15Yeah. And behaving.
0:57:15 > 0:57:16- Good lad!- So far.
0:57:18 > 0:57:19See you, then.
0:57:19 > 0:57:21See you. Oi, pull your tie up!
0:57:23 > 0:57:26THEY CHUCKLE
0:57:29 > 0:57:31Ta.
0:57:33 > 0:57:36So, what's next for you, then, Julie?
0:57:37 > 0:57:41Ciggie, brew, bacon butty, then we'll see.