Episode 2

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0:00:02 > 0:00:05I'm Ivy Moxam. I was taken 13 years ago, I've just escaped. Please help me.

0:00:05 > 0:00:08This programme contains some strong language

0:00:08 > 0:00:09This is my daughter.

0:00:09 > 0:00:12GLASS SMASHES, SHOUTING

0:00:12 > 0:00:13TV: 'If the reports are true,

0:00:13 > 0:00:16'Ivy Moxam will now be a 26-year-old woman.'

0:00:16 > 0:00:19No sighting of kidnapper at address. He's still at large.

0:00:19 > 0:00:21There's nothing left.

0:00:21 > 0:00:22We have a face!

0:00:22 > 0:00:24Mark White.

0:00:24 > 0:00:26A 13-year-old who was meant to be in class at your school

0:00:26 > 0:00:29was TAKEN by a member of YOUR staff.

0:00:29 > 0:00:31"Tim, Ivy here..."

0:00:31 > 0:00:33I swear, I didn't know.

0:00:36 > 0:00:38He's taken another girl.

0:00:41 > 0:00:43# Kiss your face

0:00:45 > 0:00:47# Turn your cheek

0:00:48 > 0:00:49# Lay your head down

0:00:49 > 0:00:51# Lay your head down

0:00:54 > 0:00:55# Lay your head down

0:00:55 > 0:00:58# Lay your head down... #

0:01:28 > 0:01:31RADIO: 'All units, looking for a silver Ford Fiesta

0:01:31 > 0:01:33'used to abduct ten-year-old Phoebe Tarl,

0:01:33 > 0:01:36'missing for over nine hours.

0:01:36 > 0:01:40'Witnesses identified Mark White as a suspect.'

0:01:40 > 0:01:41Did you know him?

0:01:44 > 0:01:45Did I know him?

0:01:47 > 0:01:49The kidnapper, Mark White.

0:01:50 > 0:01:52Was he known to you before your abduction?

0:01:54 > 0:01:58We found out he worked at your school as a kitchen porter.

0:01:58 > 0:02:00You didn't know that, did you, Ivy?

0:02:00 > 0:02:03We're aware it's a big school.

0:02:03 > 0:02:05The kitchen alone employ 20 people.

0:02:05 > 0:02:07But did you ever cross paths with him?

0:02:07 > 0:02:10Did he know the little girl? Is that why you're asking me.

0:02:10 > 0:02:13We're yet to establish a connection between White and Phoebe.

0:02:13 > 0:02:16Most likely, it was an opportunistic abduction.

0:02:16 > 0:02:19It looks as if he followed her back from youth club.

0:02:21 > 0:02:25You don't happen to know where he might have taken Phoebe, do you?

0:02:26 > 0:02:29Was there anywhere else he talked about?

0:02:29 > 0:02:32What about family or friends?

0:02:32 > 0:02:35It would make sense if he was hunkering down with someone

0:02:35 > 0:02:37who loves him enough to protect him.

0:02:40 > 0:02:41Uh. His mum.

0:02:42 > 0:02:44Carol.

0:02:45 > 0:02:47What did he say about her?

0:02:47 > 0:02:49That he'd put her away.

0:02:50 > 0:02:53In a home.

0:02:53 > 0:02:55Will that help you find the little girl?

0:02:57 > 0:02:59Elliott?

0:03:07 > 0:03:09"Elliott"? Eh?

0:03:09 > 0:03:12- Last time I checked, that WAS my name.- Smart-arse.

0:03:12 > 0:03:14KEYPAD BEEPS

0:03:14 > 0:03:16You give a first name, you get trust.

0:03:29 > 0:03:32Chief Superintendent Burridge from New Scotland Yard.

0:03:32 > 0:03:34But, on this case, you can call me David.

0:03:34 > 0:03:37Sorry. "On this case"?

0:03:37 > 0:03:38Are we still reporting to you, sir?

0:03:38 > 0:03:40As has just been made clear to you, DI Carne,

0:03:40 > 0:03:43it's Chief Superintendent Burridge's case now.

0:03:44 > 0:03:46- HE SCOFFS - And what about you?

0:03:46 > 0:03:48Reassigned.

0:03:48 > 0:03:51We have offices over at Sunbridge High. Then, of course,

0:03:51 > 0:03:54there's your girl.

0:03:54 > 0:03:55Look. This news, it's...

0:03:57 > 0:03:59She's fragile.

0:03:59 > 0:04:00Mmm.

0:04:00 > 0:04:02There's a Dr Young.

0:04:02 > 0:04:04She'll carry out a psych assessment.

0:04:04 > 0:04:06Find out how much leeway we have with Ivy.

0:04:06 > 0:04:09- Which of you is closer to her? - Elliott.

0:04:09 > 0:04:11Do the introductions.

0:04:11 > 0:04:14Lisa, I want you to find the mother, Carol White.

0:04:14 > 0:04:16Time is not our friend.

0:04:16 > 0:04:20TV: 'With a second girl taken, questions are, inevitably,

0:04:20 > 0:04:22'being asked of the police.

0:04:22 > 0:04:24'How could this be allowed to happen again?

0:04:24 > 0:04:28'Just days after Ivy Moxam managed to escape captivity

0:04:28 > 0:04:30'and reunite with her family.'

0:04:54 > 0:04:56What are you up to?

0:04:57 > 0:04:59I can't find my phone.

0:04:59 > 0:05:02It's plugged in by your side of the bed, where it always is.

0:05:02 > 0:05:05Oh! My brain's crying out for the morning coffee.

0:05:06 > 0:05:07Oh!

0:05:30 > 0:05:32Over this way, Mr Tarl.

0:05:40 > 0:05:42We'll find her, Ivy.

0:05:43 > 0:05:44We will.

0:05:50 > 0:05:51They kept me in overnight.

0:05:54 > 0:05:57Until they were satisfied that I knew nothing about that...

0:05:59 > 0:06:01Him...working here.

0:06:04 > 0:06:07Would you...dig out the contact details

0:06:07 > 0:06:09of all staff from the period

0:06:09 > 0:06:12that Mark White was on these premises?

0:06:12 > 0:06:15- I want to talk to them. - Aren't the police doing that?

0:06:15 > 0:06:16People clam up with them.

0:06:16 > 0:06:18They know me.

0:06:18 > 0:06:20This school - everyone in it -

0:06:20 > 0:06:22it's my responsibility.

0:06:25 > 0:06:28I thought it was just bad luck, him taking me.

0:06:29 > 0:06:32If he was at my school, it can't have been.

0:06:32 > 0:06:33Can it?

0:06:33 > 0:06:35I must have been chosen.

0:06:38 > 0:06:39KNOCK AT DOOR, DOOR OPENS

0:06:39 > 0:06:42- A Dr Young here for you? - Thank you.

0:06:43 > 0:06:44Hi. DI Carne.

0:06:45 > 0:06:47Ivy, hello.

0:06:47 > 0:06:48I'm Dr Young.

0:06:49 > 0:06:51I'll need to speak to Ivy alone.

0:06:54 > 0:06:56I'll be outside, if you need me.

0:06:57 > 0:07:00Don't know what they've told you about me

0:07:00 > 0:07:02but I'm a clinical psychologist

0:07:02 > 0:07:05and we're going to spend an hour here now

0:07:05 > 0:07:07to see if the two of us can work together.

0:07:07 > 0:07:10Everything you say is just between us.

0:07:10 > 0:07:15I'm someone with no agenda apart from to help you.

0:07:16 > 0:07:18Someone you can talk to.

0:07:18 > 0:07:20I'm tired of talking.

0:07:21 > 0:07:22I'm sure. But...

0:07:24 > 0:07:27..it's very important for you to have someone

0:07:27 > 0:07:29you can feel at ease with.

0:07:29 > 0:07:30I do.

0:07:32 > 0:07:33With Tim.

0:07:34 > 0:07:35And, um...

0:07:35 > 0:07:37Tim is...?

0:07:39 > 0:07:40A boyfriend.

0:07:41 > 0:07:43Not like that, though.

0:07:45 > 0:07:48A friend who's a boy.

0:07:48 > 0:07:50And he's from your past?

0:07:51 > 0:07:52And now.

0:07:54 > 0:07:56PHONE RINGS

0:08:04 > 0:08:07Jesse Rawlins. Hi.

0:08:07 > 0:08:08Two hands at your disposal.

0:08:08 > 0:08:11From the Met?

0:08:11 > 0:08:13The Super sent me over. Said you've a search on.

0:08:13 > 0:08:15For White's mum. Yes.

0:08:15 > 0:08:17It seems care homes

0:08:17 > 0:08:20are the last places holding out from the modern world.

0:08:21 > 0:08:25Paper records. Find any Carol Whites, give me a shout.

0:08:29 > 0:08:31SIRENS WAIL

0:08:32 > 0:08:34Is this all for the little girl?

0:08:34 > 0:08:36The whole force is out looking for her.

0:08:36 > 0:08:38SIRENS BLARE

0:08:51 > 0:08:56CLASSICAL MUSIC PLAYS LOUDLY

0:08:56 > 0:09:00- I was listening to that. - So was the whole street. Tea?

0:09:00 > 0:09:02No. I want everything ready for when Ivy's back.

0:09:02 > 0:09:05It's just a cup of tea, Chris. I think you can allow yourself that.

0:09:05 > 0:09:07DOOR BELL RINGS

0:09:07 > 0:09:09HE SIGHS

0:09:11 > 0:09:12DOOR OPENS

0:09:17 > 0:09:18Um...

0:09:18 > 0:09:21I'm sorry to, er, well, just come round like this,

0:09:21 > 0:09:25but I've something for Ivy, if it's OK to give to her?

0:09:25 > 0:09:28I thought because of the other girl being taken...

0:09:28 > 0:09:31- That's good of you. - She's not here.

0:09:31 > 0:09:34They've taken her in to help with the enquiries.

0:09:34 > 0:09:35Oh. Could I...

0:09:36 > 0:09:38..maybe wait for her?

0:09:38 > 0:09:39We need time alone as a family.

0:09:42 > 0:09:44DOOR OPENS

0:09:46 > 0:09:47DOOR SLAMS

0:09:47 > 0:09:49It might do Ivy be good to see Tim.

0:09:53 > 0:09:56SHE WHISKS

0:10:00 > 0:10:01Tim.

0:10:06 > 0:10:09Put your number in there. When Ivy gets back, I'll give you a call.

0:10:09 > 0:10:12See if we can sort something out.

0:10:14 > 0:10:16How's she...?

0:10:17 > 0:10:18Is she all right?

0:10:18 > 0:10:20Honestly?

0:10:22 > 0:10:24I don't know.

0:10:30 > 0:10:33RINGING TONE

0:10:33 > 0:10:35- Mum!- Ivy?

0:10:36 > 0:10:38It's just me.

0:10:41 > 0:10:43- Who is it?- He hasn't said.

0:10:45 > 0:10:47Well... Tell whoever it is I can't speak.

0:11:03 > 0:11:06She needs some clothes.

0:11:06 > 0:11:10- What size is she?- It's not exactly my speciality. I don't know.

0:11:10 > 0:11:13- Ten? Eight? - I should know. I'm her sister.

0:11:15 > 0:11:16Go easy on yourself, huh?

0:11:18 > 0:11:21- We're a team, right?- Always.

0:11:21 > 0:11:23It's just this. It's quicker alone.

0:11:29 > 0:11:32SPLASHING

0:11:36 > 0:11:38Mrs Moxam?

0:11:39 > 0:11:40Uh...

0:11:41 > 0:11:43Shit!

0:11:44 > 0:11:49You have no idea how many cakes I've incinerated.

0:11:49 > 0:11:50My specialist skill.

0:11:50 > 0:11:52Rescuing them.

0:11:52 > 0:11:55I thought cake. She always liked cake. That can't have changed.

0:11:56 > 0:11:57May I?

0:12:03 > 0:12:06Then, load on whipped cream and...

0:12:06 > 0:12:08as many strawberries as you can find.

0:12:08 > 0:12:10DOOR OPENS

0:12:12 > 0:12:15- How did it go? You all right? - Fine.- Well done, darling.

0:12:15 > 0:12:17Emma, get your sister a drink.

0:12:17 > 0:12:19There's juice in the fridge, or tea. Or...

0:12:20 > 0:12:22Thank you, DI Carne.

0:12:22 > 0:12:23(Right.)

0:12:46 > 0:12:48Sorry.

0:12:57 > 0:12:59You always beat me to it.

0:12:59 > 0:13:02Lucky not to come and find you with your tongue right in the bowl.

0:13:02 > 0:13:04You used to get it all over your face

0:13:04 > 0:13:06and Mum would say "There are raw eggs in that..."

0:13:06 > 0:13:08"There are raw eggs in that, you know!"

0:13:11 > 0:13:14Do you have a mobile I could borrow?

0:13:15 > 0:13:16Who do you want to call?

0:13:17 > 0:13:18Is it Tim?

0:13:20 > 0:13:23- Shall we have cake first? - I'm not hungry.

0:13:27 > 0:13:30TV: '..In the hunt to find ten-year-old Phoebe Tarl

0:13:30 > 0:13:33'after she was abducted by Mark White. Today, her father...'

0:13:33 > 0:13:35Are you sure you want to watch this?

0:13:36 > 0:13:40'My baby girl Phoebe was snatched last night by Mark White.

0:13:40 > 0:13:45'Mr White, Mark, please don't hurt her.

0:13:45 > 0:13:48'Let her go.

0:13:48 > 0:13:50'Phoebe... Sweetie, if you can hear me,

0:13:50 > 0:13:53'know that Daddy loves you.

0:13:53 > 0:13:56"Lots of people love you, your Nan...'

0:13:56 > 0:13:58How's Granny?

0:13:58 > 0:14:00'..all your friends are thinking of you

0:14:00 > 0:14:02'and we just can't wait to see you again.'

0:14:02 > 0:14:03She's gone, love.

0:14:05 > 0:14:07Gone where?

0:14:07 > 0:14:08She got sick.

0:14:11 > 0:14:12Five years ago.

0:14:12 > 0:14:15'She was wearing her jeans, pink coat,

0:14:15 > 0:14:17'and she has on her favourite backpack...'

0:14:17 > 0:14:19No, don't.

0:14:19 > 0:14:23'I can confirm that this case is linked to the disappearance,

0:14:23 > 0:14:25'13 years ago, of Ivy Moxam.

0:14:25 > 0:14:27'The suspect in both cases is Mark White.

0:14:27 > 0:14:31'His image is circulating widely and I can assure the public

0:14:31 > 0:14:35'that I have a large team of officers working round-the-clock

0:14:35 > 0:14:36'to apprehend him.'

0:14:38 > 0:14:40- 'If anyone...'- Phoebe...

0:14:40 > 0:14:43'..has any information on the whereabouts of Phoebe Tarl,

0:14:43 > 0:14:46'please, come forward, and speak to us immediately.'

0:14:54 > 0:14:55What are you up to, darling?

0:14:55 > 0:14:57ALBUM SLAMS

0:15:03 > 0:15:05I can carry those down, if you like?

0:15:05 > 0:15:07There are some lovely ones in there of you.

0:15:08 > 0:15:10We could all have a look.

0:15:10 > 0:15:13- I'm all cobwebby, I need a shower. - How about I run you a bath?

0:15:15 > 0:15:17- You're being really brave. - Mum, please...

0:15:17 > 0:15:19I want you to know that it will be better now.

0:15:19 > 0:15:21I'll do everything I can to make it better.

0:15:31 > 0:15:34OFFICE HUBBUB

0:15:40 > 0:15:42How was baby-sitting?

0:15:42 > 0:15:45You get time out to read the psych assessment?

0:15:45 > 0:15:47It only confirmed what I know.

0:15:47 > 0:15:48We need to tread carefully.

0:15:48 > 0:15:50Take our time.

0:15:50 > 0:15:52Did we read the same report?

0:15:52 > 0:15:55Let me guess, you want to go at Ivy all guns blazing?

0:15:55 > 0:15:57I want to find Phoebe.

0:16:00 > 0:16:02You shove a lot of bodies in from the Yard,

0:16:02 > 0:16:04it sends a message - "cock up".

0:16:04 > 0:16:05And we didn't.

0:16:05 > 0:16:07Phoebe being taken was...

0:16:10 > 0:16:13We can't watch all the young girls in Bristol all the time.

0:16:13 > 0:16:16We're in the minority that weren't bumped off this case.

0:16:16 > 0:16:18- Means we're doing something right. - Yeah. You coming?

0:16:18 > 0:16:21- We have to say something.- He's trying to leave quietly. Let him.

0:16:21 > 0:16:24Sir! I just wanted to say, it's really shitty what they've done.

0:16:24 > 0:16:26Careful, son.

0:16:27 > 0:16:31A case like this is the kind you look up from a year on

0:16:31 > 0:16:33and you've lost everything else.

0:16:40 > 0:16:41All done.

0:16:41 > 0:16:44- Leaving us three options. - Two, actually.

0:16:44 > 0:16:47Tillwell got closed down four years ago.

0:16:48 > 0:16:50And this is?

0:16:50 > 0:16:52James. Thanks.

0:16:52 > 0:16:54Actually, it's Jesse.

0:16:55 > 0:16:59Got it down to two Carol Whites in Bristol care homes.

0:16:59 > 0:17:01My kind of odds.

0:17:01 > 0:17:04We get to his mother, you crack a smile?

0:17:04 > 0:17:07Yeah. Well, anywhere's better than here.

0:17:07 > 0:17:09And I wouldn't go waiting for that smile.

0:17:09 > 0:17:11Maybe I'll get one tomorrow night?

0:17:13 > 0:17:15You hadn't forgotten, had you?

0:17:18 > 0:17:20I've defrosted some old chicken and everything.

0:17:20 > 0:17:23- Way to make a girl feel special! - HE CHUCKLES

0:17:30 > 0:17:32KNOCK AT DOOR

0:17:32 > 0:17:34I'm busy.

0:17:34 > 0:17:35KNOCKING CONTINUES

0:17:39 > 0:17:40I'm sorry to...

0:17:42 > 0:17:46I don't want you to think that I'm interfering, but I've spoken to Tim

0:17:47 > 0:17:50and he's going to meet you this afternoon.

0:17:50 > 0:17:52Alia'll take you.

0:17:53 > 0:17:55Thanks, Dad.

0:17:58 > 0:18:00I'll leave you to get ready.

0:18:01 > 0:18:03Here.

0:18:03 > 0:18:05Carol White.

0:18:05 > 0:18:08Passed away in 2002.

0:18:09 > 0:18:12Do you ever think about updating your records?

0:18:12 > 0:18:15Save us a lot of time when we don't really have it to waste.

0:18:15 > 0:18:18- Sorry about him. Does it have a next of kin on there?- I'll check.

0:18:21 > 0:18:22Mark White.

0:18:22 > 0:18:24She's our girl.

0:18:24 > 0:18:26WAS our girl. Well, elderly lady...

0:18:26 > 0:18:29Could you print us off a copy of her file?

0:18:32 > 0:18:34When I'm been the charming one, we're in trouble.

0:18:34 > 0:18:35What's up with you?

0:18:37 > 0:18:39These places... I'm not a fan.

0:18:39 > 0:18:41Whereas, I positively love the stale air

0:18:41 > 0:18:43and threat of imminent death(!)

0:18:43 > 0:18:44There you go.

0:18:46 > 0:18:48Carol White's previous address,

0:18:48 > 0:18:5015, Denby Close, Basingstoke.

0:18:50 > 0:18:51Let's get a team out there.

0:19:14 > 0:19:15Hi.

0:19:15 > 0:19:17Hi.

0:19:31 > 0:19:33This girl that's been taken...

0:19:35 > 0:19:36I can't imagine how you must...

0:19:40 > 0:19:44I suppose I'm trying to say, I'm... I'm sorry.

0:19:44 > 0:19:46You remembered this place.

0:19:46 > 0:19:48Course!

0:19:48 > 0:19:50I used to come here when...

0:19:50 > 0:19:52After...

0:19:57 > 0:19:58Lucky dip.

0:20:00 > 0:20:02Close your eyes.

0:20:15 > 0:20:17Still got yours?

0:20:17 > 0:20:18I saved you the chest.

0:20:20 > 0:20:21That was the best bit.

0:20:23 > 0:20:25Pick again.

0:20:36 > 0:20:40El tried to get me to sneak out after curfew to see you.

0:20:40 > 0:20:44Mm. Eloise was the definition of trouble.

0:20:44 > 0:20:45Do you still see her?

0:20:46 > 0:20:49I haven't. Not for, um...

0:20:49 > 0:20:52She couldn't get out of this place quick enough.

0:20:55 > 0:20:56But this place is home.

0:20:59 > 0:21:00I think so.

0:21:09 > 0:21:10Your last pick.

0:21:23 > 0:21:25You kept them?

0:21:26 > 0:21:28No-one seems to write any more.

0:21:29 > 0:21:31You're lucky if you get a postcard.

0:21:32 > 0:21:34What do you mean?

0:21:34 > 0:21:37It's all e-mails now.

0:21:37 > 0:21:40Facebook, text, Twitter.

0:21:40 > 0:21:42Modern life has killed the art of letter-writing.

0:21:45 > 0:21:46What's that?

0:21:52 > 0:21:55No sign of Mark White at his mum's house.

0:21:55 > 0:21:58It's been rented out for the past 14 years.

0:21:58 > 0:21:59All money's going to her son.

0:21:59 > 0:22:01So, our kidnapper's solvent.

0:22:01 > 0:22:03And income equals options.

0:22:03 > 0:22:05He's headed somewhere.

0:22:05 > 0:22:08Maybe he plans to hole up, recreate what he had with Ivy?

0:22:08 > 0:22:11We won't let him. We'll pick him up en route.

0:22:11 > 0:22:12Put this sorry mess to bed.

0:22:18 > 0:22:19Year Six.

0:22:19 > 0:22:22Your sponsored silence.

0:22:22 > 0:22:23I reckon you lasted...

0:22:24 > 0:22:25..four minutes?

0:22:26 > 0:22:30I can see the telltale signs, Ivy Moxam.

0:22:30 > 0:22:33That's a smile you've got brewing.

0:22:35 > 0:22:37It was six minutes, actually.

0:22:37 > 0:22:40Well, that's a record for you.

0:22:40 > 0:22:42THEY LAUGH

0:22:44 > 0:22:49- Before it gets dark, do you want to go for a walk?- A walk?

0:22:51 > 0:22:53All right, grandpa!

0:22:53 > 0:22:54Try and keep up.

0:22:58 > 0:23:01SHE SHRIEKS HAPPILY

0:23:06 > 0:23:08LAUGHTER

0:23:31 > 0:23:34SHE GASPS FOR BREATH

0:23:38 > 0:23:39Thanks.

0:23:39 > 0:23:41For giving you a head start?

0:23:41 > 0:23:43SHE PANTS

0:23:43 > 0:23:45For the first time since...

0:23:47 > 0:23:49..I've felt free.

0:23:54 > 0:23:57Well, don't get too excited. And, erm...

0:23:57 > 0:23:59It's called an iPod.

0:23:59 > 0:24:02It's somewhere you can keep all your music, your CDs,

0:24:02 > 0:24:03all in one place.

0:24:05 > 0:24:09There's 13 playlists on there, one for each year.

0:24:10 > 0:24:12Sort of like a musical tour.

0:24:12 > 0:24:14That must have taken you ages.

0:24:16 > 0:24:18I liked doing it.

0:24:19 > 0:24:20Um...

0:24:22 > 0:24:24Here.

0:24:26 > 0:24:28Which song do you want to hear first?

0:24:29 > 0:24:31Surprise me.

0:24:33 > 0:24:35How about that song that we wore out?

0:24:37 > 0:24:38This has been the same for me.

0:24:38 > 0:24:41TINNY MUSIC FROM HEADPHONES

0:24:41 > 0:24:44# This is just a simple song To say what you done

0:24:44 > 0:24:50SOUNDTRACK MUSIC SWELLS # I told you about all those fears

0:24:50 > 0:24:53# And the way they did run

0:24:53 > 0:24:54# You sure must be strong

0:24:58 > 0:25:03# When you feel like an ocean being warmed by the sun

0:25:06 > 0:25:10# When I was just nine years old

0:25:10 > 0:25:15# I swear that I dreamt

0:25:15 > 0:25:17# Your face on a football field... #

0:25:19 > 0:25:21CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS

0:25:33 > 0:25:35Mark White was in a rush.

0:25:36 > 0:25:39The forgotten hair tie is proof of that. He dumps the car.

0:25:39 > 0:25:44Has he found another? Is he on foot? Where's he going?

0:25:44 > 0:25:46Nowhere. He's staying in Bristol.

0:25:46 > 0:25:49Where he knows most people are looking for him?

0:25:49 > 0:25:52- So, what's keeping him here? - Ivy.

0:25:56 > 0:25:57So, why take Phoebe?

0:25:58 > 0:26:00A straight replacement.

0:26:01 > 0:26:05The man can't stand a moment without a captive. Someone in his power.

0:26:05 > 0:26:07Or, he isn't finished with Ivy yet.

0:26:13 > 0:26:16DISTANT SIRENS

0:26:19 > 0:26:22TINNY MUSIC PLAYS

0:26:23 > 0:26:26I'm afraid we've got to go via the station before home.

0:26:28 > 0:26:30I've spoken to your mum.

0:26:30 > 0:26:33THEIR SONG PLAYS LOUDLY

0:26:34 > 0:26:36Tim?

0:26:36 > 0:26:37Tim!

0:26:37 > 0:26:39TIM!

0:26:40 > 0:26:44Table eight have asked again for their bottle of Pinot Noir.

0:26:44 > 0:26:46Shit, yeah. Sorry. Coming right up.

0:26:58 > 0:27:01Interview of Ivy Moxam commencing at 21.04

0:27:01 > 0:27:03by DS Merchant and DI Carne.

0:27:03 > 0:27:06We've an update for you on the Phoebe Tarl investigation.

0:27:06 > 0:27:09- You found her? - Unfortunately not. Yet.

0:27:09 > 0:27:12White's car's been found abandoned.

0:27:12 > 0:27:14We think he's now on foot or already in a secure location.

0:27:14 > 0:27:18Which is where you can help by retracing your movements

0:27:18 > 0:27:20the day of your abduction.

0:27:20 > 0:27:23Knowing how White acted before could tell us how he'll act now.

0:27:23 > 0:27:26Get us one step ahead of him.

0:27:27 > 0:27:30What about his mum? What did she say?

0:27:30 > 0:27:32Not a lot.

0:27:34 > 0:27:37Carol White passed away in 2002.

0:27:41 > 0:27:42But...

0:27:46 > 0:27:47I thought she was alive while...

0:27:49 > 0:27:50Why would he do...?

0:27:50 > 0:27:55If we could go back to the 2nd May, 2003.

0:27:55 > 0:27:58From your previous statement,

0:27:58 > 0:28:01it seems you lost consciousness after the blow to the head.

0:28:01 > 0:28:04That would account for a few minutes.

0:28:04 > 0:28:05The rest?

0:28:08 > 0:28:10That's all I remember...sorry.

0:28:13 > 0:28:14Can you try?

0:28:16 > 0:28:18See if anything else comes back.

0:28:20 > 0:28:21For Phoebe?

0:28:24 > 0:28:26OK. Thanks, Ivy.

0:28:26 > 0:28:29Well, how will you find Phoebe...

0:28:30 > 0:28:32..if I can't remember?

0:28:32 > 0:28:33That'll be hard.

0:28:35 > 0:28:36Harder.

0:28:39 > 0:28:42The memories are there, Ivy.

0:28:42 > 0:28:45It's just a question of unlocking them.

0:28:46 > 0:28:47I don't know how.

0:28:49 > 0:28:51Then that's us done.

0:28:55 > 0:28:56RECORDER CLICKS OFF

0:28:56 > 0:28:58There is a way.

0:29:01 > 0:29:04We could take you back there.

0:29:05 > 0:29:06Wh...?

0:29:06 > 0:29:08Lisa?

0:29:08 > 0:29:09A word?

0:29:17 > 0:29:20She'd be totally safe, both of us'll be with her.

0:29:20 > 0:29:23Being back there could bring her memories to the fore.

0:29:23 > 0:29:26- At what risk to her recovery? - None. If we do it properly.

0:29:27 > 0:29:29Sensitively.

0:29:29 > 0:29:31I can do sensitively.

0:29:33 > 0:29:35- I don't like it. - Oh, God. No shit(!)

0:29:42 > 0:29:43I want to go back to the house...

0:29:45 > 0:29:47..to help Phoebe.

0:29:57 > 0:29:59Go at your own pace towards the house.

0:29:59 > 0:30:04Anything that strikes you - an image, a noise, a smell -

0:30:04 > 0:30:07anything at all, just shout. OK?

0:30:50 > 0:30:52Forensics finished up this morning

0:30:52 > 0:30:55so everything should be as was when you were here.

0:31:06 > 0:31:08DOOR SLAMS SHUT

0:31:10 > 0:31:13- MAN'S VOICE, DISTORTED: - 'Will you be a good girl?

0:31:13 > 0:31:15'See, there's a good girl.'

0:31:15 > 0:31:17METALLIC CLICK

0:31:19 > 0:31:21'I knew you were a good girl.'

0:31:24 > 0:31:25Ivy.

0:31:27 > 0:31:28Are you OK?

0:31:32 > 0:31:34Elliott!

0:31:38 > 0:31:41Do you remember being brought here?

0:31:41 > 0:31:43Whatever was on me was pulled off.

0:31:48 > 0:31:49I could see, but...

0:31:52 > 0:31:54I could...I couldn't...

0:31:54 > 0:31:55You were gagged?

0:31:57 > 0:31:58What did you see?

0:32:00 > 0:32:01Him.

0:32:03 > 0:32:06- He had a gun. - Did he threaten you with it?

0:32:19 > 0:32:22You don't have to go back there. Ivy?

0:33:27 > 0:33:31- What have you done to it? - It's as was.- No, it isn't.

0:33:33 > 0:33:34It isn't!

0:33:36 > 0:33:38This is how we found it, Ivy.

0:33:39 > 0:33:42It wasn't the police who left it this way. It was Mark White.

0:33:46 > 0:33:48This was ours.

0:33:58 > 0:33:59Even you have to admit -

0:33:59 > 0:34:02that was really odd behaviour.

0:34:02 > 0:34:06She actively wanted to go into the cellar and when she was in there...

0:34:06 > 0:34:09It was her whole life for 13 years, Lisa.

0:34:09 > 0:34:11But what kind of life?

0:34:11 > 0:34:13That's the question.

0:34:23 > 0:34:26Thank you for doing that, Ivy. I can't imagine...

0:34:28 > 0:34:31- I'll get you home. - Don't tell my family.

0:34:32 > 0:34:34I don't want them to know I came back.

0:34:38 > 0:34:41CAR DOOR OPENS, ENGINE STARTS

0:34:44 > 0:34:46There's dinner for you here, love.

0:35:02 > 0:35:04HE SIGHS

0:35:38 > 0:35:41TINNY MUSIC PLAYS

0:36:16 > 0:36:18HE KNOCKS

0:36:21 > 0:36:25- I didn't get the memo. - Last night's events...

0:36:25 > 0:36:28- It was nothing.- Not strictly true.

0:36:28 > 0:36:30Lisa, tell him your theory.

0:36:32 > 0:36:35In the cellar, Ivy said, "This was ours."

0:36:36 > 0:36:38There's a possibility -

0:36:38 > 0:36:40and it's just that, a possibility -

0:36:40 > 0:36:43that Ivy knew Mark White before the abduction.

0:36:43 > 0:36:45That she had seen him in school.

0:36:47 > 0:36:51- Why would she lie? - If he was grooming her.

0:36:51 > 0:36:53If it was a pre-existing relationship that then went sour.

0:36:53 > 0:36:55Sorry. Sorry.

0:36:55 > 0:36:57I'm not sure I'm hearing this right.

0:36:57 > 0:37:01You're saying she willingly went into that house,

0:37:01 > 0:37:03into that cellar,

0:37:03 > 0:37:05and stayed there for 13 years?

0:37:05 > 0:37:08Like I said, it's a possibility.

0:37:08 > 0:37:10And one we need to consider.

0:37:10 > 0:37:13Because if Ivy is misleading us, then we can't trust her,

0:37:13 > 0:37:16and if we can't trust her, then...

0:37:16 > 0:37:18No-one's denying it's an unpalatable thought, Elliott,

0:37:18 > 0:37:21but if there is any truth in it, for Phoebe's sake,

0:37:21 > 0:37:23we need to follow it through.

0:37:33 > 0:37:36I'd really like to know why you've gone behind my back with this.

0:37:36 > 0:37:39- We're supposed to be a team. - Yeah, we are.

0:37:39 > 0:37:41And I should be able to go to you with anything.

0:37:41 > 0:37:43If I can't, whose fault is that?

0:37:50 > 0:37:53TINNY MUSIC PLAYS

0:37:58 > 0:38:02- You sure I should go to work? - Can't have both of us not earning.

0:38:05 > 0:38:08- LOUD CLUNKING - You'll wake Ivy up!

0:38:14 > 0:38:17"Exclusive photo of Ivy Moxam...

0:38:17 > 0:38:19"Moxam caught on a date with mystery man

0:38:19 > 0:38:21"when ten-year-old Phoebe's still missing."

0:38:21 > 0:38:24"Oh, it'll do her good to see Tim"(!)

0:38:24 > 0:38:26- Bra-fucking-vo, Angus! - HE SIGHS

0:38:35 > 0:38:37How did they know?

0:38:37 > 0:38:39You have to assume they're still watching you all the time.

0:38:40 > 0:38:43I'd hope they'd move on.

0:38:43 > 0:38:45They... They will eventually.

0:38:49 > 0:38:51What exactly were you doing?

0:38:52 > 0:38:55Ivy does know her mystery man is married, doesn't she?

0:38:57 > 0:38:58Of course!

0:38:58 > 0:39:00She was upset, that's all.

0:39:04 > 0:39:06After everything she's gone through, and here's me...

0:39:08 > 0:39:10Sorry.

0:39:10 > 0:39:12Please, don't apologise.

0:39:21 > 0:39:23- Could we borrow a word, Ivy? - I don't want to talk.

0:39:23 > 0:39:25It won't take long, I promise.

0:39:27 > 0:39:31To be clear, you had never seen White before the 2nd May, 2003,

0:39:31 > 0:39:34when he abducted you from Docton Lane?

0:39:34 > 0:39:37I've already told you all of this.

0:39:37 > 0:39:38No, I hadn't.

0:39:38 > 0:39:41Not even maybe just to wave to at school

0:39:41 > 0:39:42or maybe just a smile?

0:39:44 > 0:39:45Thanks, Ivy.

0:39:45 > 0:39:48There's one more area we need to track back on...if I may?

0:39:52 > 0:39:54The time White allowed you out of the house,

0:39:54 > 0:39:56where did you go?

0:39:56 > 0:39:58I'm not sure.

0:39:59 > 0:40:01Did he leave you alone at any point?

0:40:02 > 0:40:05She was allowed out...of that place!

0:40:07 > 0:40:09Why didn't she run or scream or ANYTHING?!

0:40:12 > 0:40:14Emma, can you give us a minute alone, please, love?

0:40:14 > 0:40:17No. You're not shutting me out from it all again.

0:40:26 > 0:40:29We're not going to be able to move forward as a family unless

0:40:29 > 0:40:32- we face up to what's happened. - I've got a load of washing...

0:40:32 > 0:40:34We have to be prepared to ask questions, Chris.

0:40:34 > 0:40:36No matter how difficult the answers might be.

0:40:36 > 0:40:38- She'll talk when she's ready to talk.- She won't.

0:40:38 > 0:40:40Not if we're behaving like everything's normal.

0:40:40 > 0:40:42This doesn't FEEL very normal.

0:40:45 > 0:40:49- Where's the phone?- Who do you want to call?- I just want the phone, OK?

0:40:49 > 0:40:51You're not calling Tim.

0:40:51 > 0:40:52We'll let ourselves out.

0:40:52 > 0:40:55The papers, these people, they twist things.

0:40:55 > 0:40:58- They're already twisting things. - I would like the phone.

0:40:58 > 0:41:00You can speak to him when it's all died down.

0:41:00 > 0:41:03- You can't tell me what to do. - It's for your own good, darling.

0:41:03 > 0:41:04People see you with a man

0:41:04 > 0:41:07and it might give the wrong impression.

0:41:07 > 0:41:08I'm not a child any more.

0:41:11 > 0:41:12I've had sex.

0:41:13 > 0:41:14SHE GASPS

0:41:23 > 0:41:26- Any service this side of Christmas? - Not open yet.

0:41:26 > 0:41:29That go for an old friend, too?

0:41:30 > 0:41:33- Shit! Hello, mate! - SHE LAUGHS

0:41:33 > 0:41:36As greetings go, that's on the shoddy side.

0:41:39 > 0:41:42- You've put on a few quid. - Phht.- Shit.

0:41:42 > 0:41:45- Supposed to be buttering you up. - Why's that?

0:41:46 > 0:41:47I need a bottle of wine

0:41:47 > 0:41:50and a terrible night's sleep on your floor?

0:41:52 > 0:41:55I need to work out what I'm going to say to Ivy.

0:41:55 > 0:41:58That makes two of us.

0:42:14 > 0:42:17SHE SOBS

0:42:46 > 0:42:48You were right.

0:42:51 > 0:42:53You were right about everything.

0:43:12 > 0:43:14For the girl who's hard to impress.

0:43:14 > 0:43:16- What is it?- Just watch it.

0:43:16 > 0:43:19Then work out how you're going to pay me back.

0:43:37 > 0:43:39"29th May, 2002.

0:43:39 > 0:43:44"Today, in the canteen, Tim asked me to see The Scorpion King.

0:43:44 > 0:43:47"El kicked me under the table before I could answer.

0:43:47 > 0:43:49"She says I need to learn to play games,

0:43:49 > 0:43:53"though I don't want to play games. He's asked me out.

0:43:53 > 0:43:56"He's finally asked me out and I want to scream 'Yes!'"

0:43:58 > 0:43:59DOORBELL RINGS

0:44:01 > 0:44:04KNOCK ON DOOR Who is it?

0:44:04 > 0:44:06It's me. Tim.

0:44:19 > 0:44:20Come in.

0:44:44 > 0:44:46You're OK?

0:44:50 > 0:44:53That moment in the park was for us.

0:44:53 > 0:44:54I'm really sorry, I...

0:44:54 > 0:44:56Don't say sorry.

0:44:57 > 0:44:59It's not you, it's me. They won't...

0:45:00 > 0:45:01..leave me alone.

0:45:04 > 0:45:06When's it enough for...

0:45:08 > 0:45:10I went back there for HER.

0:45:13 > 0:45:15Doesn't matter!

0:45:16 > 0:45:19Let's just enjoy being alone for five minutes.

0:45:24 > 0:45:25Ivy, I...

0:45:25 > 0:45:28Five minutes would be a record with Mum around.

0:45:28 > 0:45:32- How was she with you?- She was... - She doesn't want me to see you.

0:45:33 > 0:45:37- Ivy...- She'd happily keep me in my room.- She just loves you.

0:45:41 > 0:45:42I know.

0:45:47 > 0:45:50- Ivy, there's something... - Please don't!

0:45:56 > 0:46:00MUSIC: "In Your Dreams" by Dark Dark Dark

0:46:17 > 0:46:21# Don't say nothin' No

0:46:23 > 0:46:26# I can see when you're lyin' Oh

0:46:29 > 0:46:33# When you're alone You're so alone

0:46:36 > 0:46:39# When you're alone You're so alone... #

0:46:56 > 0:46:59- KNOCK ON DOOR - Ivy?

0:47:03 > 0:47:06They need you back in.

0:47:07 > 0:47:08Sorry.

0:47:16 > 0:47:18MUSIC DISTORTS

0:47:32 > 0:47:36You're about to hear one audio extract, one visual extract.

0:47:36 > 0:47:38Both relate to 5th July, 2013,

0:47:38 > 0:47:42when you were permitted to leave 5, Colbridge Road.

0:47:42 > 0:47:44We appreciate you helping us out.

0:47:44 > 0:47:48From an interview you gave us today at 9.10, as it plays,

0:47:48 > 0:47:51if could you turn your attention to the screen on your left.

0:47:56 > 0:47:59- LISA, ON TAPE:- 'The time Mark White allowed you out of the house,

0:47:59 > 0:48:01'where exactly did you go?

0:48:02 > 0:48:04IVY, ON TAPE: 'I'm not sure.'

0:48:06 > 0:48:08This is where you went.

0:48:08 > 0:48:12Darterton Shopping Centre in 2013.

0:48:12 > 0:48:14We found CCTV of it.

0:48:15 > 0:48:17You may not have known the name. It was poorly signed.

0:48:19 > 0:48:21- ON TAPE:- 'Were you left alone at any point?

0:48:21 > 0:48:23'No.'

0:48:26 > 0:48:29Can you confirm that the CCTV image shows you walking,

0:48:29 > 0:48:31unaccompanied by Mark,

0:48:31 > 0:48:34into the ladies' toilets?

0:48:44 > 0:48:45Yes.

0:48:46 > 0:48:48But it was for...

0:48:48 > 0:48:49Um, I was...

0:48:51 > 0:48:53- ON TAPE:- 'Did you feel there was ever an occasion

0:48:53 > 0:48:55'where you could've attempted to flee?

0:48:57 > 0:48:59'No, he was with me the whole time.'

0:49:03 > 0:49:04Except he wasn't.

0:49:06 > 0:49:08What's the time stamp, DI Carne?

0:49:09 > 0:49:1111.45.

0:49:12 > 0:49:1411.45.

0:49:16 > 0:49:19Six minutes after you walk into the toilets alone,

0:49:19 > 0:49:22you emerge from the toilets alone.

0:49:24 > 0:49:27Six minutes is a long time, Ivy.

0:49:27 > 0:49:30Why didn't you run from here?

0:49:30 > 0:49:33A public space? Yet, you DID run from Mark's house.

0:49:33 > 0:49:34I couldn't.

0:49:34 > 0:49:36He was outside.

0:49:37 > 0:49:38Outside where?

0:49:41 > 0:49:42Because he isn't here.

0:49:45 > 0:49:47Instead,

0:49:47 > 0:49:49here YOU are...

0:49:50 > 0:49:52..LOOKING for Mark White.

0:49:52 > 0:49:54Actively looking for your kidnapper.

0:49:54 > 0:49:57You walk past these other shoppers,

0:49:57 > 0:49:59not once alerting them to your situation,

0:49:59 > 0:50:02as if in a rush to find Mark.

0:50:02 > 0:50:05And when you do, you sit down beside him

0:50:05 > 0:50:07- and take his hand... - Turn it off.

0:50:07 > 0:50:10- I'm sorry if this is upsetting. - Turn it off, Elliott.

0:50:10 > 0:50:12I can't do that.

0:50:12 > 0:50:15Not until we're through, and we almost are.

0:50:23 > 0:50:25You've lied to us about this.

0:50:25 > 0:50:30What's to say you're not lying about other things? About knowing White?

0:50:31 > 0:50:33About what really happened the day you were taken?

0:50:34 > 0:50:39- About where Phoebe is?- How many times? I want you to find her.

0:50:39 > 0:50:42You did know him, didn't you?

0:50:44 > 0:50:46Do you know where he is right now?

0:50:48 > 0:50:50I don't.

0:50:50 > 0:50:52I want to believe you.

0:50:52 > 0:50:53I really do.

0:50:53 > 0:50:56But if anything happens to Phoebe

0:50:56 > 0:50:58and you're found to have mislead us,

0:50:58 > 0:51:00it will be very serious indeed.

0:51:00 > 0:51:01Elliott...

0:51:03 > 0:51:04You believe me, don't you?

0:51:08 > 0:51:10Ivy, we ARE on your side. You need to know that.

0:51:15 > 0:51:18You don't want us to find him, do you?

0:51:19 > 0:51:22You walked up to him - your abductor -

0:51:22 > 0:51:23and you took his hand!

0:51:26 > 0:51:29Maybe it would just be easier

0:51:29 > 0:51:30if you admitted to us...

0:51:35 > 0:51:36..you love him.

0:51:44 > 0:51:45I need to see Tim.

0:51:58 > 0:52:00- You're right to go hardline. - Oh, we don't think

0:52:00 > 0:52:03- Ivy's been through enough? - Save your empathy for Phoebe.

0:52:03 > 0:52:06If Ivy is protecting White, even by omission,

0:52:06 > 0:52:08she's abetting a serial kidnapper. Remember that.

0:52:08 > 0:52:10How do we move forward then, sir?

0:52:10 > 0:52:12See where she goes,

0:52:12 > 0:52:14who she speaks to.

0:52:14 > 0:52:16If there's a sniff of her knowing where White is.

0:53:09 > 0:53:11Can I speak to Tim, please?

0:53:11 > 0:53:13Don't you know who I am?

0:53:14 > 0:53:17- I need to speak to Tim.- Tim!

0:53:17 > 0:53:18Live and direct, in the flesh.

0:53:20 > 0:53:23- Ivy!- Please, can I go?

0:53:23 > 0:53:26Cos I've got all the words ready

0:53:26 > 0:53:29and I don't want something else getting in the way again.

0:53:29 > 0:53:31People making out I feel things when I don't.

0:53:33 > 0:53:34Everything's changed.

0:53:36 > 0:53:37Everyone.

0:53:38 > 0:53:40Except me and you.

0:53:42 > 0:53:44I want us to be together like we were and...

0:53:47 > 0:53:49..I love you.

0:53:55 > 0:53:56Who's this?

0:54:02 > 0:54:04TEARFULLY: Tim, who's this?

0:54:07 > 0:54:09Yazz.

0:54:11 > 0:54:12Yazmin.

0:54:23 > 0:54:26SHE GASPS FOR AIR

0:54:29 > 0:54:31Ivy!

0:54:32 > 0:54:33Ivy, wait!

0:54:35 > 0:54:38Can we go? CAR ENGINE TURNS

0:54:38 > 0:54:40ENGINE REVS

0:54:52 > 0:54:54Guess our date's off, then?

0:54:54 > 0:54:56You thought it was a date?

0:54:57 > 0:55:01- No, course not. - You wanted to eat, that's all.

0:55:01 > 0:55:04To the casual observer, I'd say you're taking this Ivy business

0:55:04 > 0:55:06- a mite too personally, wouldn't you?- Fuck off!

0:55:06 > 0:55:09I'll take that as an admission, then.

0:55:09 > 0:55:11Here was me feeling sorry for you,

0:55:11 > 0:55:14worrying that SHE was getting too attached, when look at you!

0:55:14 > 0:55:16Careful, you're sounding jealous.

0:55:16 > 0:55:17Of her?

0:55:17 > 0:55:18HE SNIFFS

0:55:18 > 0:55:21- SHE SCOFFS - You're going down a stupid path,

0:55:21 > 0:55:22even with your track record.

0:55:22 > 0:55:25She's lying to us, making a fool of you.

0:55:25 > 0:55:27So much of what she says doesn't add up.

0:55:27 > 0:55:29There's a little girl out there...

0:55:29 > 0:55:32Don't pretend this is about finding Phoebe. Remember, I know you, Lisa.

0:55:32 > 0:55:36This is about you. It always is.

0:55:36 > 0:55:39You sniffed out a chance at being DI and you're going for it,

0:55:39 > 0:55:41snarling jaws and all. Tell you something -

0:55:41 > 0:55:43it's not an attractive look.

0:55:43 > 0:55:44Now take your hands off my car.

0:55:46 > 0:55:48Hands off!

0:55:57 > 0:55:58We're here.

0:55:58 > 0:55:59Ivy?

0:56:04 > 0:56:05Home.

0:56:13 > 0:56:15I don't want my mum to see me like this.

0:56:19 > 0:56:21Could I have a minute alone?

0:56:23 > 0:56:25Please?

0:56:26 > 0:56:28Of course.

0:56:31 > 0:56:32It'll...

0:56:35 > 0:56:36It'll be OK.

0:57:05 > 0:57:07MUFFLED SCREAMS

0:57:08 > 0:57:12- I'm not going to hurt you, Ivy. - Is she OK?- You're very brave.

0:57:12 > 0:57:16Mark White, we believe that you're telling us you want to talk.

0:57:16 > 0:57:17So, where were you?

0:57:17 > 0:57:20I don't really go in for the Good Samaritan side of things.

0:57:20 > 0:57:23- That would be a hell of a lie from Ivy.- Hardly the first.

0:57:31 > 0:57:34# Don't say nothing No

0:57:37 > 0:57:41# I can see when you're lying Oh

0:57:43 > 0:57:47# And when you're alone You're so alone

0:57:50 > 0:57:53# When you're alone You're so alone... #