0:00:02 > 0:00:03- It's for "Alison". - That's what he called me.
0:00:03 > 0:00:05I wasn't allowed to be Ivy.
0:00:05 > 0:00:06I love you.
0:00:06 > 0:00:09After everything Ivy's been through, I've hurt her.
0:00:09 > 0:00:10You having an affair,
0:00:10 > 0:00:14leaving our home because you gave up.
0:00:14 > 0:00:15Do you know who this is?
0:00:15 > 0:00:18It's White's half-brother, Dylan.
0:00:18 > 0:00:20I'll put you on record as never having seen this man,
0:00:20 > 0:00:22never having the impression he was attendant
0:00:22 > 0:00:23- on Colbridge Road, yes? - Yes.
0:00:23 > 0:00:26- Get out! - Stop using her as an excuse.
0:00:26 > 0:00:29You didn't even think she was your sister in the first place.
0:00:29 > 0:00:30Will you stay?
0:00:30 > 0:00:33I don't want to be on my own.
0:00:40 > 0:00:43# Kiss your face
0:00:44 > 0:00:46# Turn your cheek
0:00:47 > 0:00:51# Lay your head down Lay your head down
0:00:53 > 0:00:57# Lay your head down Lay your head down. #
0:01:43 > 0:01:45SHE GASPS
0:01:49 > 0:01:51Elliott...
0:02:10 > 0:02:13I hope you're dusting off a spectacular excuse.
0:02:13 > 0:02:15I need you over here, Elliott.
0:02:41 > 0:02:42Mum?
0:02:48 > 0:02:50Do you want a cup of tea?
0:03:23 > 0:03:24SHE KNOCKS
0:03:34 > 0:03:35Come in.
0:03:37 > 0:03:39PHONE BUZZES AND CHIMES
0:04:10 > 0:04:11Are you awake?
0:04:31 > 0:04:34PHONES RING
0:04:41 > 0:04:44Incident room, PS Porter speaking, how can I help you?
0:04:44 > 0:04:47Is this concerning Phoebe Tarl?
0:04:48 > 0:04:50Elliot. My office.
0:05:04 > 0:05:07To be unreachable in the middle of an investigation of this scale...
0:05:07 > 0:05:09Sir, if you'd let me explain...
0:05:09 > 0:05:11A skeleton's been found at 5 Colbridge Road.
0:05:11 > 0:05:13What?
0:05:13 > 0:05:16Get yourself down to the mortuary. Lisa will fill you in.
0:05:22 > 0:05:23FOOTSTEPS DESCEND
0:05:27 > 0:05:28Where's Mum?
0:05:28 > 0:05:30Ivy, if you just let me explain...
0:05:30 > 0:05:32Her keys aren't here.
0:05:32 > 0:05:34- Can we talk? - Maybe she just needed some time.
0:05:37 > 0:05:38PHONE RINGS
0:05:40 > 0:05:42Eloise, hi.
0:05:42 > 0:05:44How long's this going to go on for?
0:05:44 > 0:05:47- This being?- The silent treatment.
0:05:47 > 0:05:49I've said I'm sorry, but there are things we need to talk about.
0:05:49 > 0:05:51- I need a lift.- I'll take you.
0:05:51 > 0:05:53Craig, are you all right to?
0:06:00 > 0:06:01Yeah.
0:06:08 > 0:06:11- How long's it been down there for? - The body was wrapped in sheeting.
0:06:11 > 0:06:14It's weathered better than our friend there.
0:06:14 > 0:06:16The results will be in soon.
0:06:16 > 0:06:19- How did we find it?- I went looking.
0:06:19 > 0:06:22The rest of 5 Colbridge Road - gardens, surrounds -
0:06:22 > 0:06:24it's being pulled up as we speak.
0:06:24 > 0:06:25There could be more.
0:06:26 > 0:06:30What's with your total inability to answer your phone?
0:06:31 > 0:06:35I ended up getting rat-arsed with my mate, didn't have my charger.
0:06:36 > 0:06:37Lucky mate.
0:06:39 > 0:06:40Does Ivy know about this?
0:06:46 > 0:06:47I haven't slept.
0:06:50 > 0:06:52- You look great. - Don't.
0:07:05 > 0:07:07Did you get my messages?
0:07:08 > 0:07:11The situation at the school, him working there...
0:07:11 > 0:07:13I didn't come here for that. I don't want to hear...
0:07:15 > 0:07:17I just needed someone to talk to.
0:07:20 > 0:07:23- Have you got any sweetener? - There's one in already.
0:07:27 > 0:07:29I don't know what to do.
0:07:31 > 0:07:34- TEARFULLY:- Ivy. I don't know how to fix her.
0:07:35 > 0:07:38Fix us all, make us a family again.
0:07:38 > 0:07:40How could anyone?
0:07:40 > 0:07:43You're always too hard on yourself.
0:07:43 > 0:07:45Don't say that. Don't talk like you know me.
0:07:45 > 0:07:46It's been years.
0:07:49 > 0:07:5113 years.
0:07:59 > 0:08:02Last night, I shouldn't have said what I said.
0:08:04 > 0:08:06Don't blame Em. Blame me.
0:08:08 > 0:08:09- RADIO:- '..for the news.
0:08:09 > 0:08:12'The hunt for missing Bristol schoolgirl Phoebe Tarl
0:08:12 > 0:08:14'has entered yet another day.
0:08:14 > 0:08:16'There have been no sightings of the ten-year-old
0:08:16 > 0:08:18'since she was abducted by serial kidnapper Mark White.'
0:08:18 > 0:08:22She hates herself for thinking...for not knowing...
0:08:22 > 0:08:24PHONE RINGS
0:08:25 > 0:08:27RADIO VOLUME INCREASES
0:08:27 > 0:08:32That was classy - leaving me here while you go off with Ivy.
0:08:32 > 0:08:35I should be with her. I should be the one trying to make it right.
0:08:35 > 0:08:37Me and her, we were just...
0:08:37 > 0:08:40You have ruined the only thing that matters to me.
0:08:43 > 0:08:44What have we found?
0:08:44 > 0:08:47It's Dylan. White's half-brother.
0:08:49 > 0:08:50The dental records match.
0:08:50 > 0:08:53Dr Pradesh is saying he's been down in the cellar
0:08:53 > 0:08:55for seven years, meaning...
0:08:57 > 0:08:58..Ivy was down there with him.
0:09:00 > 0:09:02She's been protecting White this whole time.
0:09:02 > 0:09:05He kills Dylan, his own family, and she keeps quiet.
0:09:05 > 0:09:08Even now, when he has Phoebe, Ivy doesn't speak up, doesn't say,
0:09:08 > 0:09:11"Oh, by the way, he's killed before."
0:09:11 > 0:09:14Every fucking thing she's told us was a lie.
0:09:21 > 0:09:23KNOCKING
0:09:31 > 0:09:33Sorry. Come in, come in.
0:09:33 > 0:09:35Sorry, it's a bit of a tip.
0:09:35 > 0:09:36It's not even close.
0:09:37 > 0:09:39I remember your bedroom floor.
0:09:41 > 0:09:43Place'll just about do till I go back home.
0:09:45 > 0:09:49I can offer you poor-quality coffee, poor-quality tea,
0:09:49 > 0:09:52or my home-made mini-bar -
0:09:52 > 0:09:53sod the Yardarm.
0:09:57 > 0:10:00Sorry I missed your call last night. I was...
0:10:00 > 0:10:02Well, doesn't matter.
0:10:03 > 0:10:04Were you OK?
0:10:06 > 0:10:07You know...
0:10:10 > 0:10:12Want that drink?
0:10:12 > 0:10:14Is it OK if I hang here for a bit?
0:10:14 > 0:10:16Course. I'd like that.
0:10:33 > 0:10:35Am I all right to smoke?
0:10:48 > 0:10:50- Can I tempt you?- Sure.
0:10:54 > 0:10:57Wouldn't be me and you if I wasn't coercing you into bad habits.
0:10:59 > 0:11:01Your parents have a lot to blame me for.
0:11:10 > 0:11:13I don't know how to say this, other than to just say it.
0:11:13 > 0:11:14I'm sorry.
0:11:15 > 0:11:17Oh...
0:11:17 > 0:11:20- I get it, you're friends with Tim. - No...
0:11:20 > 0:11:22No, not for that. Well...for that, too, but...
0:11:22 > 0:11:25No - um...for that day.
0:11:26 > 0:11:29- For not meeting you. If I had... - You don't have to.
0:11:29 > 0:11:31I fucked up royally. I let you down.
0:11:31 > 0:11:33I'd get it if you couldn't forgive me.
0:11:33 > 0:11:34- I haven't.- El, stop...
0:11:34 > 0:11:36I should've stuck to the plan.
0:11:36 > 0:11:39- I should've met you, then none of it would have happened.- Eloise...
0:11:39 > 0:11:41Fine. Sorry. I'm stopping, I'm stopping.
0:11:41 > 0:11:42There's nothing to forgive.
0:11:42 > 0:11:44- Hardly.- I'm being serious.
0:11:44 > 0:11:47A million different things put me on that street that day.
0:11:48 > 0:11:51If I had breakfast...
0:11:51 > 0:11:53If I got a lift with Mum...
0:11:54 > 0:11:56If I never had my earphones in...
0:11:58 > 0:11:59If, if, if, it's...
0:12:02 > 0:12:03It wasn't your fault.
0:12:11 > 0:12:13How long were you going to let me pretend for?
0:12:16 > 0:12:18It's totally rank.
0:12:18 > 0:12:21THEY LAUGH
0:12:33 > 0:12:35DOORBELL RINGS
0:12:40 > 0:12:41HE KNOCKS
0:12:45 > 0:12:48- We need to see Ivy. - She's not in.
0:12:48 > 0:12:50Do you know where she is?
0:12:50 > 0:12:52I'll tell her you swung by.
0:12:53 > 0:12:57We've come to take her into custody. So, where is she?
0:12:59 > 0:13:01It's nice out here.
0:13:01 > 0:13:03Well, fresh air's a cure-all.
0:13:03 > 0:13:04Yeah. I do feel less...
0:13:08 > 0:13:10HE SNIFFS
0:13:10 > 0:13:13That is one of the best smells in the world.
0:13:15 > 0:13:17- Mmm...- I can give you some cuttings, if you'd like.
0:13:17 > 0:13:20Oh, I haven't been in the garden for an embarrassing amount of time.
0:13:20 > 0:13:21Hang on.
0:13:31 > 0:13:33OBJECTS CLATTER
0:13:35 > 0:13:36We'll get you started again.
0:13:39 > 0:13:41Um...if you'd like.
0:13:43 > 0:13:45- Is that a "yes"? - Yes, it's a "yes", Henry.
0:13:50 > 0:13:52PHONE BUZZES
0:13:55 > 0:13:57Emma, I'll be back soon.
0:14:00 > 0:14:02What did they say?
0:14:07 > 0:14:08I have things to do, so...
0:14:09 > 0:14:11Yeah.
0:14:12 > 0:14:15I'll get these things out of your way.
0:14:15 > 0:14:18You must be really happy, to go back to your old home, hm?
0:14:18 > 0:14:19Your old life.
0:14:22 > 0:14:25This, me...
0:14:25 > 0:14:27Like it never happened.
0:14:29 > 0:14:30It did.
0:14:32 > 0:14:35- You did.- Just go.
0:14:47 > 0:14:49KNOCKING
0:14:58 > 0:15:00- Come with us, Ivy. - We're in the middle of something,
0:15:00 > 0:15:02and your "hello" could do with some work.
0:15:02 > 0:15:04Ivy, if you wouldn't mind.
0:15:04 > 0:15:08- I'm with my best friend. - We don't have time for this.
0:15:08 > 0:15:09Hey, what's with the heavy hands?
0:15:09 > 0:15:12Ivy Moxam, I'm arresting you on suspicion of perverting the course of justice.
0:15:12 > 0:15:15You don't have to say anything, but it may harm your defence
0:15:15 > 0:15:17if you do not mention when questioned
0:15:17 > 0:15:18something you later rely on in court.
0:15:18 > 0:15:21Anything you do say may be given in evidence.
0:15:32 > 0:15:34Is this because of last night?
0:15:34 > 0:15:36Me asking you to stay over?
0:15:40 > 0:15:42ENGINE STARTS
0:15:49 > 0:15:52Why did you let me lie in this late?
0:15:52 > 0:15:54I thought you needed a sleep.
0:15:54 > 0:15:56More like you wanted the peace.
0:15:57 > 0:15:58Please...
0:15:59 > 0:16:02..can we not? Not again.
0:16:02 > 0:16:05I'm afraid it doesn't work like that.
0:16:05 > 0:16:07You don't get to dictate when we talk
0:16:07 > 0:16:10about this...mess you've got us in.
0:16:11 > 0:16:15I said I'm sorry. What more do you want, Yazz?
0:16:15 > 0:16:19I want to feel like you want to make it right.
0:16:19 > 0:16:21Like you don't still have feelings for her.
0:16:21 > 0:16:24I don't have feelings for her.
0:16:24 > 0:16:26You're my wife.
0:16:26 > 0:16:27PHONE RINGS
0:16:27 > 0:16:29Finish your sentence.
0:16:32 > 0:16:33Finish your sentence, Tim.
0:16:33 > 0:16:35It's Eloise.
0:16:35 > 0:16:36I've got to check that she didn't end up
0:16:36 > 0:16:38sleeping rough in some doorway.
0:16:38 > 0:16:41You're behaving like a child.
0:16:41 > 0:16:42What?
0:16:43 > 0:16:45Have you called Christina?
0:16:48 > 0:16:51We need to go to the station, then.
0:16:51 > 0:16:52I'll come and get you.
0:16:58 > 0:16:59Ivy's been arrested.
0:17:01 > 0:17:03She's not your responsibility.
0:17:03 > 0:17:04I have to go.
0:17:04 > 0:17:05No, you really don't.
0:17:07 > 0:17:08If you leave in the middle of this, then...
0:17:10 > 0:17:12..then we're done.
0:17:12 > 0:17:13I'll be back as soon as I can.
0:18:23 > 0:18:25DOOR CLOSES HEAVILY
0:18:29 > 0:18:31Elliott?
0:18:39 > 0:18:41Is anyone coming?
0:18:43 > 0:18:46You've been on the job for nearly 48 hours straight.
0:18:49 > 0:18:50Well, one of you has.
0:18:51 > 0:18:54So, are you both good for this or not?
0:18:54 > 0:18:56- Yes, sir.- Yes, sir.
0:19:00 > 0:19:02DOOR OPENS
0:19:13 > 0:19:16I'm Detective Sergeant Lisa Merchant, joined by...
0:19:16 > 0:19:18Detective Inspector Elliott Carne.
0:19:18 > 0:19:20We're here to interview Ivy Moxam
0:19:20 > 0:19:23on suspicion of perverting the course of justice.
0:19:24 > 0:19:28You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence
0:19:28 > 0:19:30if you do not mention when questioned
0:19:30 > 0:19:33something which you later rely on in court.
0:19:33 > 0:19:37Anything you say may be given in evidence.
0:19:37 > 0:19:40You have the right to legal representation.
0:19:40 > 0:19:42Would you like to take that right?
0:19:42 > 0:19:44I don't know what I'm supposed to have done.
0:19:44 > 0:19:47- Answer the question.- No, I don't.
0:19:48 > 0:19:50Elliott, what's going on?
0:19:50 > 0:19:51We found him.
0:19:54 > 0:19:56So Phoebe's safe?
0:19:56 > 0:19:58It's over?
0:19:58 > 0:19:59Not him.
0:20:02 > 0:20:03We found Dylan.
0:20:34 > 0:20:36SHE SCREAMS
0:20:40 > 0:20:42SHE CRIES
0:21:04 > 0:21:05I'm sorry.
0:21:07 > 0:21:09I'm sorry.
0:21:12 > 0:21:13I'm sorry.
0:21:15 > 0:21:17They'll realise they got it wrong and let her go, right?
0:21:17 > 0:21:20We can be there for her without actually, physically being there.
0:21:20 > 0:21:23- She'll want her family. - I want to protect her.
0:21:23 > 0:21:27The whole knight-in-shining-armour routine is a bit dated.
0:21:27 > 0:21:28Shut up, Eloise.
0:21:31 > 0:21:32I think I love her.
0:21:38 > 0:21:41The discovery of Dylan's body
0:21:41 > 0:21:45indicates that you have fabricated your version of events
0:21:45 > 0:21:47for the period you were in the cellar.
0:21:47 > 0:21:49Can you explain why, Ivy?
0:21:54 > 0:21:56Lying as you've done protects White.
0:21:58 > 0:22:00Do you know where he is?
0:22:05 > 0:22:06In your interview yesterday,
0:22:06 > 0:22:12when the following was said to you, "I'll put you down on record
0:22:12 > 0:22:15"as never having seen this man, never having heard mention of him,
0:22:15 > 0:22:19"never having the impression he was attendant on Colbridge Road,"
0:22:19 > 0:22:21you replied, "Yes."
0:22:23 > 0:22:27That was me giving you a chance. A chance to tell the truth.
0:22:30 > 0:22:33I want to go over some dates with you.
0:22:33 > 0:22:34Is that OK, Ivy?
0:22:38 > 0:22:422006, year three of your captivity,
0:22:42 > 0:22:45we have a witness placing Dylan at Sunbridge High,
0:22:45 > 0:22:49looking for his brother, Mark White.
0:22:49 > 0:22:54Dylan's postmortem gives us 2009 as the year of his death.
0:22:56 > 0:23:00As you know, his body was found behind the cellar wall.
0:23:01 > 0:23:03The cellar you were kept in.
0:23:05 > 0:23:09This gives us at least three years where we can only assume
0:23:09 > 0:23:11that Dylan was known to you.
0:23:12 > 0:23:14Maybe even lived down there with you.
0:23:17 > 0:23:19Did he?
0:23:27 > 0:23:31Did he act as an accomplice with White in your original abduction?
0:23:52 > 0:23:56By refusing to answer our questions, you leave us no choice
0:23:56 > 0:24:00but to charge you with perverting the course of justice.
0:24:00 > 0:24:04Which carries a maximum 36-month sentence.
0:24:10 > 0:24:13Don't you think you've spent enough time away from your family?
0:24:19 > 0:24:22The back of Dylan's skull was missing.
0:24:24 > 0:24:26Like it had been caved in.
0:24:29 > 0:24:34Do you know how much force it takes to do that to a person?
0:24:36 > 0:24:38The animal that did that...
0:24:38 > 0:24:41he has a ten-year-old girl with him.
0:24:41 > 0:24:44Dylan was a 30-year-old man when he was killed.
0:24:44 > 0:24:46Phoebe...doesn't stand a chance.
0:25:06 > 0:25:10- You don't believe me, do you? - I do, actually.
0:25:10 > 0:25:13- Right. - I believe you're in love with Ivy.
0:25:13 > 0:25:16Just not this version. 13-year-old Ivy.
0:25:16 > 0:25:21- But that girl, she doesn't exist any more.- She does. I've seen it.
0:25:22 > 0:25:24I've been with her and I've felt how it was.
0:25:24 > 0:25:26Nostalgia with a side order of guilt.
0:25:28 > 0:25:32I feel it too, OK? It's not just you going mad on your own.
0:25:35 > 0:25:36When I'm with Ivy...
0:25:38 > 0:25:43I dunno, I... I feel lighter somehow.
0:25:43 > 0:25:45Of course you do.
0:25:45 > 0:25:48It was first love.
0:25:48 > 0:25:52It's not nagging about how you got in late, why you didn't text,
0:25:52 > 0:25:55it's not the obligatory good-night peck.
0:25:55 > 0:25:57It's not real life.
0:25:58 > 0:26:00Yazz is.
0:26:03 > 0:26:06By the way, all of the above? Exactly why I choose to stay single.
0:26:06 > 0:26:07HE LAUGHS SOFTLY
0:26:09 > 0:26:12What am I meant to do about all this?
0:26:12 > 0:26:15For starters, work out a pretty bloody eloquent apology speech
0:26:15 > 0:26:16for your wife.
0:26:19 > 0:26:22- And Ivy? - We have to let her come to us.
0:26:32 > 0:26:34SIREN WAILS
0:26:44 > 0:26:46HE EXHALES
0:27:08 > 0:27:12The results are back, from the sheeting used to wrap Dylan's body.
0:27:12 > 0:27:16- What have I got, a match for White? - DNA WAS found.
0:27:17 > 0:27:18Ivy's DNA.
0:27:26 > 0:27:28What you're saying...
0:27:28 > 0:27:30it doesn't make sense.
0:27:30 > 0:27:33- I can appreciate that. - And you're certain?
0:27:34 > 0:27:38The DNA, surely... Sometimes...
0:27:38 > 0:27:41- You hear stories about mix-ups, cock-ups...- It's Ivy's DNA.
0:27:41 > 0:27:44There's no forensic evidence that anyone other than Ivy
0:27:44 > 0:27:46was involved in Dylan's death.
0:27:46 > 0:27:48She's not capable of it.
0:27:48 > 0:27:52Unfortunately, unless Ivy tells us her version of events,
0:27:52 > 0:27:55we have no choice but to arrest her on suspicion of murder.
0:27:58 > 0:28:00All she's been through and you dare to do this?
0:28:00 > 0:28:03The fact remains if Ivy keeps refusing
0:28:03 > 0:28:05to answer our questions...
0:28:05 > 0:28:07then it's out of our hands.
0:28:09 > 0:28:12She's my daughter. I'll talk to her.
0:28:27 > 0:28:29Ivy?
0:28:29 > 0:28:31It's Mum.
0:28:38 > 0:28:40It's OK, darling, it's OK.
0:28:50 > 0:28:52I'll just...
0:29:08 > 0:29:12Everything that's said in that room is off the record. Understood?
0:29:13 > 0:29:15Yes, sir.
0:29:23 > 0:29:25I never tell my mum anything, if I can help it.
0:29:29 > 0:29:33'Ivy, the police have told me what they think they've found.'
0:29:34 > 0:29:39And it's... It's horrible, and you don't want to speak about it.
0:29:39 > 0:29:41IVY SOBS QUIETLY
0:29:41 > 0:29:43But you can tell me anything.
0:29:44 > 0:29:46What you've...been through,
0:29:46 > 0:29:48none of us can know how it feels.
0:29:53 > 0:29:54What it can push you to do.
0:29:57 > 0:30:02I don't care what you've done, I'll love you no matter what.
0:30:04 > 0:30:06IVY SNIFFS
0:30:09 > 0:30:11- Promise?- I promise.
0:30:15 > 0:30:17TEARFULLY: He's dead because of me.
0:30:20 > 0:30:22He's dead because...
0:30:22 > 0:30:24SHE SOBS
0:30:26 > 0:30:29SOBBING CONTINUES
0:30:29 > 0:30:32- 'You hate me, don't you? - (No, I love you.)'
0:30:38 > 0:30:40Tell me what happened.
0:30:44 > 0:30:46Dylan.
0:30:50 > 0:30:52He was kind.
0:30:56 > 0:30:59One time, he was left in charge.
0:31:03 > 0:31:05So he let me out.
0:31:08 > 0:31:09I nearly made it.
0:31:13 > 0:31:15SHE BREATHES SHAKILY
0:31:16 > 0:31:21But he came back and he shoved me, and I fell.
0:31:23 > 0:31:26He grabbed Dylan...
0:31:26 > 0:31:28VOICE BREAKING: ..and he got his head and...
0:31:32 > 0:31:35When he finally stopped, Dylan was dead.
0:31:36 > 0:31:38Mark White killed Dylan?
0:31:43 > 0:31:45'He was my friend.'
0:31:47 > 0:31:49If I hadn't have run...
0:31:51 > 0:31:52..Dylan would still be alive.
0:31:54 > 0:31:56- I'm a monster.- You're not.
0:31:58 > 0:32:00You're my beautiful little girl.
0:32:01 > 0:32:03He said if I ever told anyone...
0:32:06 > 0:32:08..told you...
0:32:11 > 0:32:13..that I'd be alone.
0:32:17 > 0:32:20And you wouldn't love me any more.
0:32:22 > 0:32:25Unconditionally.
0:32:25 > 0:32:27That's the deal.
0:32:27 > 0:32:29IVY SOBS
0:32:39 > 0:32:40ELLIOTT SIGHS
0:32:40 > 0:32:42SOBBING CONTINUES
0:32:49 > 0:32:51SHE EXHALES
0:32:53 > 0:32:57Craig, it's me. Again. Call me back.
0:33:04 > 0:33:06Talk to me.
0:33:07 > 0:33:10- I'm your dad, Emma. - And that means something, does it?
0:33:12 > 0:33:14It means more than anything.
0:33:14 > 0:33:16I know I've made some mistakes, love,
0:33:16 > 0:33:18maybe some you can't forgive me for, but...
0:33:20 > 0:33:23..I will never, ever stop trying to make that up to you and your sister.
0:33:28 > 0:33:29OK?
0:33:33 > 0:33:34OK, Dad.
0:33:39 > 0:33:40KNOCK ON DOOR
0:33:44 > 0:33:46Shall I stay?
0:33:46 > 0:33:47Please.
0:33:56 > 0:33:58I presume you heard every word?
0:34:02 > 0:34:06Interview resumed at 11.33. Present in the room -
0:34:06 > 0:34:09DS Merchant, DI Carne, Ivy Moxam, Christina Moxam.
0:34:13 > 0:34:16Could you explain to us, then, Ivy,
0:34:16 > 0:34:20how your DNA ended up on the sheeting that covered Dylan's body?
0:34:27 > 0:34:29After...
0:34:33 > 0:34:35..it was so quiet.
0:34:40 > 0:34:42White was sick on the floor.
0:34:46 > 0:34:48He couldn't look at what he'd done.
0:34:50 > 0:34:51What next?
0:34:57 > 0:35:00He made me pour bleach over the body.
0:35:02 > 0:35:03Then cover...
0:35:05 > 0:35:07..his face.
0:35:09 > 0:35:10STRAINED: Wrap it up.
0:35:13 > 0:35:15So he'd never have to see it again.
0:35:19 > 0:35:21Thank you for doing that, Ivy.
0:35:35 > 0:35:36Dylan's role up to that point...
0:35:38 > 0:35:43..was he an accomplice to Mark White on 2nd May, 2003,
0:35:43 > 0:35:46when you were abducted?
0:35:46 > 0:35:48No.
0:35:48 > 0:35:51When DID you first meet Dylan?
0:35:53 > 0:35:56- That day.- When you were brought to 5 Colbridge Road?
0:35:58 > 0:36:01Was Dylan complicit in your continued imprisonment?
0:36:03 > 0:36:07Then why did you omit to mention him in any of the accounts
0:36:07 > 0:36:10you have given us of your captivity?
0:36:10 > 0:36:12It makes every statement you have given us
0:36:12 > 0:36:18- inadmissible in court, marks you out as a false witness.- I couldn't.- Why?
0:36:18 > 0:36:19Because then you'd know.
0:36:19 > 0:36:21That White had murdered his own brother?
0:36:24 > 0:36:27I wasn't meant to say, it was just for us.
0:36:39 > 0:36:40How often did you see Dylan?
0:36:42 > 0:36:45Whenever I was good, he was allowed to come visit me.
0:36:47 > 0:36:49He'd bring his Game Boy.
0:36:51 > 0:36:53He only had Tetris.
0:36:54 > 0:36:59He never made an attempt to go to the police or alert anyone
0:36:59 > 0:37:00to your presence?
0:37:02 > 0:37:04He was scared.
0:37:04 > 0:37:06Of the police?
0:37:08 > 0:37:09Of his brother.
0:37:12 > 0:37:17Was Mark White ever violent towards Dylan prior to the attack
0:37:17 > 0:37:19that led to his death?
0:37:22 > 0:37:24Sometimes.
0:37:26 > 0:37:28This propensity to violence...
0:37:30 > 0:37:33..it's this which complicates things for me.
0:37:34 > 0:37:37You know what he is capable of.
0:37:37 > 0:37:39A man who has a ten-year-old girl in his care.
0:37:39 > 0:37:42- Yet you never said a word to us. - He wouldn't hurt her.
0:37:44 > 0:37:47- She's too young. - How can you be so sure of that, Ivy?
0:37:47 > 0:37:49Everything has to be proper.
0:37:49 > 0:37:51Proper is 16.
0:37:58 > 0:38:02And Dylan, what was his relationship to you?
0:38:04 > 0:38:06His medical records all point to
0:38:06 > 0:38:08an impaired cognitive function.
0:38:10 > 0:38:12What mental age did he seem?
0:38:15 > 0:38:16Young.
0:38:19 > 0:38:21Younger than me.
0:38:21 > 0:38:26So did you sometimes take on the parental role in the relationship?
0:38:28 > 0:38:33But at other times, as in your abortive escape attempt...
0:38:33 > 0:38:36he took on the role of your protector.
0:38:36 > 0:38:38Yes.
0:38:39 > 0:38:43Did he ever talk about his and White's family situation?
0:38:45 > 0:38:48Just that his mum had given up on him.
0:38:48 > 0:38:52- And where did White fit into this? - He saved him.
0:38:56 > 0:38:58That's what Dylan always said.
0:39:01 > 0:39:03"My brother saved me."
0:39:10 > 0:39:14To repeatedly smash your own brother's head on the floor...
0:39:14 > 0:39:15I mean, I'm all for sibling rivalry...
0:39:15 > 0:39:17Do you ever take anything seriously?
0:39:23 > 0:39:26I do actually. I just don't let it affect my work.
0:39:33 > 0:39:36We're still well within our rights to pursue the original charge.
0:39:36 > 0:39:37You can't be serious?
0:39:37 > 0:39:41What we do know, from her reaction - Dylan's body has power.
0:39:41 > 0:39:45- She shared that secret for seven years with one other.- White.
0:39:46 > 0:39:49We release the information, show him how little control he has,
0:39:49 > 0:39:51push him into making mistakes.
0:39:51 > 0:39:52But we leave Ivy out of it.
0:40:09 > 0:40:11- ON TV:- 'A few moments ago,
0:40:11 > 0:40:15'Chief Superintendent Burridge released the following statement.
0:40:15 > 0:40:19' "The body of a 30-year-old male has been identified
0:40:19 > 0:40:21' "as missing person Dylan Hawthorn.
0:40:21 > 0:40:24' "His half-brother, serial kidnapper Mark White,
0:40:24 > 0:40:26' "is suspected of the murder." '
0:40:27 > 0:40:28BEER SPLATTERS
0:40:56 > 0:40:58Ivy, you're free to go.
0:41:02 > 0:41:04I want you to find her.
0:41:07 > 0:41:10I... I didn't want to make it harder.
0:41:10 > 0:41:14- Your possessions.- Let's get you home, darling.- If I could, em...
0:41:14 > 0:41:17I just need a moment with Ivy to sign out her...things.
0:41:36 > 0:41:38I just wanted to say sorry for...
0:41:41 > 0:41:43- I let you down.- Where do I sign?
0:41:52 > 0:41:55- Please, let me try to explain. - There's nothing to explain.
0:41:58 > 0:42:01You're a policeman, you're just doing your job.
0:42:01 > 0:42:04You're not my friend, you're not my family.
0:42:14 > 0:42:15DOOR OPENS
0:42:30 > 0:42:31RECEDING FOOTSTEPS
0:42:37 > 0:42:40- IVY'S FATHER:- All sorted out? - IVY: Yeah.
0:42:40 > 0:42:41- IVY'S MOTHER:- Well done.
0:42:44 > 0:42:46We're seriously low on sleep.
0:42:48 > 0:42:50Go home. Get your head down.
0:42:52 > 0:42:56Once you're out on the other side, you might see things differently.
0:42:56 > 0:42:58CAR ENGINE STARTS
0:43:05 > 0:43:06Thanks, Lisa.
0:43:08 > 0:43:09I'm sorry.
0:43:25 > 0:43:27I don't want to presume.
0:43:27 > 0:43:29Don't be stupid, Dad.
0:43:36 > 0:43:38Come on then, you old lug.
0:44:17 > 0:44:19SHE SIGHS
0:44:33 > 0:44:34TEXT ALERT
0:44:39 > 0:44:41TAP AT WINDOW
0:44:45 > 0:44:46TAP AT WINDOW
0:44:54 > 0:44:56I can't stay out long, Mum will worry.
0:45:03 > 0:45:06I thought if I came here and I saw you...
0:45:09 > 0:45:11- HE SIGHS - But it's all the same headfuck.
0:45:13 > 0:45:15You should've just told me you were married.
0:45:18 > 0:45:20It's not that easy sometimes.
0:45:28 > 0:45:30I thought about you every day.
0:45:34 > 0:45:35So did I.
0:45:37 > 0:45:39I'm sorry.
0:45:41 > 0:45:42I'm so sorry, Ivy.
0:45:42 > 0:45:44You had to move on.
0:45:44 > 0:45:49Don't think that it was some easy, seamless thing.
0:45:49 > 0:45:51When I met Yazz, I was a mess.
0:45:51 > 0:45:54- And she was...- Don't... You... You don't need to explain.
0:45:56 > 0:45:57All those days we spent apart...
0:45:59 > 0:46:01Thousands of them.
0:46:05 > 0:46:07I don't know what you did, or...
0:46:10 > 0:46:12..or who you've met or how you lived.
0:46:15 > 0:46:17I wish I did, but I don't.
0:46:20 > 0:46:22And...
0:46:22 > 0:46:23All my days, years...
0:46:24 > 0:46:26All the things that I've done, it's like...
0:46:30 > 0:46:31I want to hear about them.
0:46:32 > 0:46:35If you want to talk, tell me.
0:46:37 > 0:46:40Me and you, we don't really know each other.
0:46:42 > 0:46:44Not any more.
0:46:44 > 0:46:46But we did.
0:46:47 > 0:46:48Yeah, we did.
0:47:12 > 0:47:14Craig?
0:47:28 > 0:47:31- Chris?- It's late, so mint tea for the girls.
0:47:31 > 0:47:32Hey...
0:47:36 > 0:47:37Today must've been difficult.
0:47:47 > 0:47:49Do you ever feel like a bit of a fraud?
0:47:50 > 0:47:52That's not me having a dig at you, it's just...
0:47:57 > 0:47:59That year, before Ivy was taken,
0:47:59 > 0:48:02when you were always at the practice and I was here...
0:48:03 > 0:48:05Yes...
0:48:09 > 0:48:11There was someone else.
0:48:14 > 0:48:16Not like that, it was never an actual...
0:48:18 > 0:48:20..thing. We just...
0:48:22 > 0:48:23..talked.
0:48:26 > 0:48:30But I needed someone who was mine, who'd listen and make time for me.
0:48:32 > 0:48:33Who was he?
0:48:33 > 0:48:35Actually, don't.
0:48:38 > 0:48:41And then, that day...
0:48:44 > 0:48:46I was with him...
0:48:48 > 0:48:50And so, ever since then I've known...
0:48:52 > 0:48:54..I was being punished.
0:48:57 > 0:48:58That's ridiculous, Chris.
0:49:00 > 0:49:02Life doesn't work like that.
0:49:02 > 0:49:04And you went off with Sofia and I just...
0:49:06 > 0:49:09I let you play the bad guy which was a shitty way to behave.
0:49:14 > 0:49:15Do you hate me?
0:49:25 > 0:49:26Right then.
0:49:34 > 0:49:35I'll put the kettle on.
0:49:46 > 0:49:48MOBILE RINGS
0:49:50 > 0:49:51Hi. Yeah...
0:50:12 > 0:50:14SOBBING NEARBY
0:50:31 > 0:50:33SHE SOBS
0:51:02 > 0:51:03HE SIGHS
0:52:19 > 0:52:21IVY, ON RECORDING: 'White was sick on the floor.
0:52:22 > 0:52:24'He couldn't look at what he'd done.
0:52:25 > 0:52:27'What next?
0:52:30 > 0:52:32'He made me pour bleach over the body.
0:52:32 > 0:52:34'Then cover his face.
0:52:36 > 0:52:37'Wrap it up.
0:52:37 > 0:52:39'So he'd never have to see it again.'
0:52:41 > 0:52:44We've got a man on the phone claiming to be White.
0:52:44 > 0:52:46- The call's coming from...? - Withheld number.
0:52:55 > 0:52:57PHONE RINGS, KEYPAD TONE
0:52:59 > 0:53:02This is Detective Inspector Carne, can you confirm your name?
0:53:03 > 0:53:05'I'm the one you're looking for.'
0:53:05 > 0:53:07Yeah, I need to confirm you are who you say you are.
0:53:08 > 0:53:11- Your mother's middle name, what was it?- 'Valerie.'
0:53:13 > 0:53:15Mark, can I speak to Phoebe?
0:53:15 > 0:53:17'No, I'll only speak to my girl, Alison.'
0:53:17 > 0:53:19LINE DISCONNECTS
0:53:19 > 0:53:21Shit, did we get it?
0:53:22 > 0:53:23No dice.
0:53:24 > 0:53:26Man's given his terms.
0:53:31 > 0:53:33TYRES SCREECH
0:53:33 > 0:53:35CAR HORN HONKS
0:53:43 > 0:53:47- Sorry for the inhumane hour. - ANGUS:- What is it now?
0:53:49 > 0:53:51- CARNE:- White called the station.
0:53:52 > 0:53:54He'll only talk to you, Ivy.
0:54:28 > 0:54:30Assuming he calls back...
0:54:30 > 0:54:33- You mean, he might not?- He will.
0:54:33 > 0:54:35We've drawn up a list of questions.
0:54:37 > 0:54:39They're there to help you know what to ask him,
0:54:39 > 0:54:41a sort of script,
0:54:41 > 0:54:43so you feel in control.
0:54:43 > 0:54:45The objective is twofold,
0:54:45 > 0:54:47keep him on the phone as long as possible
0:54:47 > 0:54:49and get as much information as you can
0:54:49 > 0:54:51on where he's holding Phoebe.
0:54:51 > 0:54:53Succeed at both, then we have him.
0:54:53 > 0:54:55- Do I have to learn these?- No.
0:54:55 > 0:54:57You'll have them in front of you the whole time.
0:54:57 > 0:55:00And we'll be right next to you ready to prompt you.
0:55:02 > 0:55:05PHONE RINGS
0:55:05 > 0:55:07- OPERATOR: 'Line one, Mark White.' - Yeah.
0:55:13 > 0:55:15It's him. Withheld number again.
0:55:15 > 0:55:16We'll have a trace in three.
0:55:21 > 0:55:24- OK, Ivy? - PHONE RINGS
0:55:27 > 0:55:29Chief Superintendent Burridge.
0:55:29 > 0:55:31'Alison, or I go.'
0:55:41 > 0:55:43I...
0:55:44 > 0:55:46- I'm here.- 'Alison!'
0:55:50 > 0:55:52Where...
0:55:55 > 0:55:57- Where is Phoebe?- 'I've missed you.
0:55:58 > 0:55:59'Your voice.
0:56:03 > 0:56:04'They found him.
0:56:04 > 0:56:06'He was ours.'
0:56:06 > 0:56:08Is she hurt?
0:56:08 > 0:56:10'She's not important.'
0:56:13 > 0:56:16- What do you want? - 'We're not alone, I know that.
0:56:17 > 0:56:18'I want to be alone.
0:56:18 > 0:56:21'Meet me at 3.00. Cabot Circus by the cinema.
0:56:21 > 0:56:22'Just us.
0:56:22 > 0:56:23'No police.'
0:56:25 > 0:56:27Don't agree to anything.
0:56:30 > 0:56:32What about Phoebe?
0:56:32 > 0:56:34'I said, just us.'
0:56:34 > 0:56:35I ca... I can't...
0:56:35 > 0:56:37If you don't come,
0:56:37 > 0:56:38I'll kill her.
0:56:43 > 0:56:46- Did we get him?- One second, sir.
0:56:47 > 0:56:49You did really well, Ivy.
0:56:58 > 0:57:00We didn't get a trace.
0:57:00 > 0:57:02So, you don't know where he is?
0:57:07 > 0:57:09Then I have to meet him.
0:57:14 > 0:57:16Ivy, I've lost eyes on you.
0:57:17 > 0:57:18SIRENS WAIL
0:57:18 > 0:57:21- He's not stopping.- He will. - Move the car, Elliott!
0:57:21 > 0:57:22HE SOBS
0:57:25 > 0:57:26Ivy!
0:57:29 > 0:57:32# Don't say nothing No
0:57:35 > 0:57:39# I can see when you're lying Oh
0:57:42 > 0:57:45# And when you're alone You're so alone
0:57:48 > 0:57:51# When you're alone You're so alone... #