Pennod 4: Rhan 2

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0:00:04 > 0:00:05- Aargh!

0:00:06 > 0:00:08- Was Catrin ever considered - a suicide risk?

0:00:09 > 0:00:11- No, this came as a shock to us all.

0:00:11 > 0:00:13- Iwan Thomas visited her.

0:00:13 > 0:00:15- They talked about the home.

0:00:16 > 0:00:17- So you're closing the case.

0:00:17 > 0:00:20- So you're closing the case.- - Iwan Thomas killed himself.

0:00:20 > 0:00:24- Paul Webb was in the same - children's home as Kieron Jones.

0:00:24 > 0:00:26- Do you know him?

0:00:26 > 0:00:27- His name was Vaughan.

0:00:28 > 0:00:29- Dr Hugh Vaughan.

0:00:29 > 0:00:31- Your son was a regular visitor.

0:00:32 > 0:00:34- What are you suggesting?

0:00:35 > 0:00:39- Those children were abused. - Hugh Vaughan was a regular visitor.

0:00:39 > 0:00:41- Let it go, Tom. That's an order.

0:00:41 > 0:00:45- The GP, Hugh Vaughan. - He killed himself in 1993.

0:00:45 > 0:00:49- But the abuse continued - until the home closed in 1996.

0:00:49 > 0:00:51- So the doctor wasn't acting alone.

0:00:51 > 0:00:52- So the doctor wasn't acting alone.- - That's how it sounds.

0:00:52 > 0:00:54- They urged me to close the case.

0:00:54 > 0:00:56- Prosser?

0:00:56 > 0:00:58- Prosser?- - His former boss. Robert Owen.

0:00:58 > 0:01:01- He ran a community programme - in the home.

0:01:02 > 0:01:04- A man who could stop - any investigation.

0:01:05 > 0:01:08- These men have ruined lives.

0:01:08 > 0:01:10- Someone will do something.

0:01:10 > 0:01:15- Ask Ethni Vaughan what she remembers - about her son's disappearance.

0:01:15 > 0:01:17- What about you?

0:02:43 > 0:02:44- Hello?

0:02:46 > 0:02:47- Come in.

0:02:58 > 0:02:59- Hm.

0:03:00 > 0:03:03- I suppose you're here - to talk about Hugh Vaughan.

0:03:04 > 0:03:05- Yes, that's right.

0:03:07 > 0:03:09- Word gets around.

0:03:10 > 0:03:12- What do you want to know?

0:03:13 > 0:03:15- How well did you know him?

0:03:15 > 0:03:16- Hugh?

0:03:17 > 0:03:18- We were good friends once.

0:03:18 > 0:03:20- What about his death?

0:03:20 > 0:03:21- What about his death?- - Terrible.

0:03:21 > 0:03:24- Do you believe - that he killed himself?

0:03:25 > 0:03:26- Who knows?

0:03:26 > 0:03:29- You ran a community programme - at the children's home.

0:03:30 > 0:03:32- Yes, it was for juvenile offenders.

0:03:32 > 0:03:36- I wanted to give them - something better in life.

0:03:36 > 0:03:37- Hm.

0:03:38 > 0:03:39- Yes.

0:03:39 > 0:03:40- Broaden their horizons.

0:03:40 > 0:03:42- Broaden their horizons.- - Yes, something like that.

0:03:45 > 0:03:47- Mr Owen.

0:03:49 > 0:03:53- I presume you're aware - of the allegations that were made...

0:03:53 > 0:03:56- ..by children who - were abused in the home.

0:03:57 > 0:04:01- Hundreds of children - were helped in that home.

0:04:01 > 0:04:05- They were given a start in life - they wouldn't otherwise have had.

0:04:06 > 0:04:10- It's inevitable that - one or two will feel disgruntled...

0:04:10 > 0:04:14- ..because their lives haven't - worked out as they had hoped.

0:04:16 > 0:04:17- No.

0:04:19 > 0:04:22- Those children - were let down by the system.

0:04:22 > 0:04:23- Treated cruelly.

0:04:24 > 0:04:25- Used and abused.

0:04:26 > 0:04:27- No-one believed them.

0:04:28 > 0:04:30- No-one except Iwan Thomas.

0:04:32 > 0:04:33- Ah, yes.

0:04:33 > 0:04:35- Iwan Thomas.

0:04:36 > 0:04:37- I'm led to believe that...

0:04:39 > 0:04:41- ..that you knew his wife well.

0:04:42 > 0:04:43- This isn't about me.

0:04:44 > 0:04:45- Isn't it?

0:04:48 > 0:04:49- Mr Owen.

0:04:50 > 0:04:53- How many people - have to die or disappear...

0:04:53 > 0:04:55- ..before the truth comes out?

0:05:00 > 0:05:03- I've dedicated my life - to this community.

0:05:03 > 0:05:07- I wonder if your record - will be just as clean.

0:05:12 > 0:05:15- Everyone has got something to hide.

0:05:17 > 0:05:21- Think long and hard before - you do something you might regret.

0:05:23 > 0:05:25- Think about your career.

0:05:28 > 0:05:30- And the careers of those around you.

0:05:32 > 0:05:34- Being a martyr is one thing...

0:05:35 > 0:05:38- ..but don't drag - everyone else down with you.

0:05:46 > 0:05:49- Now, if you'll excuse me...

0:05:49 > 0:05:51- ..you can show yourself out.

0:06:04 > 0:06:05- CAR DOOR CLOSES

0:06:09 > 0:06:13- How was your son in the weeks - leading up to his disappearance?

0:06:14 > 0:06:15- His mental state.

0:06:15 > 0:06:19- Was he depressed, - stressed or preoccupied?

0:06:21 > 0:06:23- It was a long time ago.

0:06:27 > 0:06:30- Do you remember - the last time you spoke to him?

0:06:30 > 0:06:32- Have we got to - go over all this again?

0:06:34 > 0:06:35- Please?

0:06:42 > 0:06:44- Before Hugh disappeared...

0:06:44 > 0:06:47- ..he seemed very distant somehow.

0:06:48 > 0:06:50- I spoke to him on the phone...

0:06:50 > 0:06:52- ..the night he...

0:06:53 > 0:06:58- I tried to find out what was wrong, - but he refused to talk about it.

0:06:58 > 0:07:00- He said he'd call me in the morning.

0:07:00 > 0:07:04- He had to go - because he was meeting Robert.

0:07:05 > 0:07:07- Robert Owen, the chief of police.

0:07:08 > 0:07:09- Yes.

0:07:09 > 0:07:11- Yes, I know who he is.

0:07:12 > 0:07:14- After Hugh disappeared...

0:07:15 > 0:07:19- ..I asked Robert why Hugh wanted - to speak to him that night...

0:07:19 > 0:07:21- ..but he didn't know.

0:07:21 > 0:07:24- He said that Hugh didn't show up.

0:07:24 > 0:07:28- And that was the last time - anyone heard from him.

0:07:28 > 0:07:32- Have you any idea why your son - needed to talk to Robert Owen?

0:07:34 > 0:07:36- No, I'm sorry.

0:07:40 > 0:07:46- I know what people - have been saying about my son...

0:07:46 > 0:07:48- ..and what they think he did.

0:07:51 > 0:07:52- But believe you me...

0:07:54 > 0:07:57- ..Hugh would never harm - those children.

0:08:23 > 0:08:24- Paul?

0:08:41 > 0:08:43- The police.

0:08:44 > 0:08:48- They want to talk to you about - the children's home, don't they?

0:08:49 > 0:08:50- And what happened there.

0:08:50 > 0:08:52- And what happened to you.

0:08:53 > 0:08:55- Stop it! You know nothing.

0:08:55 > 0:08:58- That's because you won't tell me.

0:09:06 > 0:09:09- Bottling it all up - won't make it disappear.

0:09:11 > 0:09:13- The girls and I live with this too.

0:09:13 > 0:09:15- Leave me alone.

0:09:21 > 0:09:22- You must tell the truth.

0:09:23 > 0:09:25- Those people should be punished.

0:09:25 > 0:09:27- You don't know anything.

0:09:29 > 0:09:30- Paul?

0:09:31 > 0:09:32- Paul, please?

0:09:42 > 0:09:45- I want everything we can find - on Robert Owen.

0:09:50 > 0:09:52- OK?

0:09:53 > 0:09:55- And I mean everything.

0:10:00 > 0:10:02- What do you think you're doing?

0:10:03 > 0:10:04- My job, sir.

0:10:05 > 0:10:08- I asked you not to pursue this. - That was an order.

0:10:10 > 0:10:13- Iwan Thomas. Hugh Vaughan. - The children's home.

0:10:14 > 0:10:16- They're all connected.

0:10:16 > 0:10:18- Iwan Thomas killed himself.

0:10:18 > 0:10:19- Did he?

0:10:20 > 0:10:24- I think Iwan was onto something. - That's why he was killed.

0:10:24 > 0:10:26- His death was investigated.

0:10:26 > 0:10:29- His death was investigated.- - Just like the home was investigated.

0:10:30 > 0:10:33- Who's looking out - for those children, sir?

0:10:33 > 0:10:34- You?

0:10:34 > 0:10:36- I did what I had to.

0:10:36 > 0:10:37- I followed orders.

0:10:37 > 0:10:38- I followed orders.- - Whose orders?

0:10:38 > 0:10:40- Robert Owen's?

0:10:41 > 0:10:45- We were protecting the - Vaughan family and his reputation.

0:10:45 > 0:10:48- If you'd done your job properly...

0:10:48 > 0:10:52- ..you'd know the children were still - abused after Hugh Vaughan's death.

0:10:54 > 0:10:55- Who told you that?

0:10:56 > 0:10:57- Paul Webb.

0:11:00 > 0:11:02- I wouldn't believe him.

0:11:02 > 0:11:03- Why would he lie?

0:11:03 > 0:11:05- Why would he lie?- - His sort always want attention.

0:11:05 > 0:11:06- His sort?

0:11:06 > 0:11:08- His sort?- - You ignored my orders!

0:11:09 > 0:11:10- You're wrong, sir.

0:11:10 > 0:11:12- I am your boss!

0:11:12 > 0:11:13- I am your boss!- - So act like one!

0:11:13 > 0:11:15- We want you out of here.

0:11:15 > 0:11:17- You don't have the authority.

0:11:17 > 0:11:18- You don't have the authority.- - It's over for you.

0:11:18 > 0:11:19- It's over for you!

0:11:59 > 0:12:03- The children at Devil's Bridge - were sexually abused...

0:12:03 > 0:12:06- ..from the late 1980s - until its closure in 1996.

0:12:07 > 0:12:10- We have reason to believe - this man, Hugh Vaughan...

0:12:10 > 0:12:14- ..a local GP - who disappeared in 1994...

0:12:14 > 0:12:16- ..was one of the abusers.

0:12:16 > 0:12:19- We don't think that he acted alone.

0:12:19 > 0:12:23- Haydn Blake, the police surgeon, - was a close friend.

0:12:23 > 0:12:27- He was spotted with Vaughan - in the children's home.

0:12:27 > 0:12:29- Robert Owen.

0:12:29 > 0:12:31- The former chief of police.

0:12:31 > 0:12:35- He ran a community programme - for juvenile offenders.

0:12:35 > 0:12:39- We know that he had regular, - unsupervised access...

0:12:39 > 0:12:42- ..to the children at Devil's Bridge.

0:12:42 > 0:12:46- We believe these two men, - Haydn Blake and Robert Owen...

0:12:46 > 0:12:49- ..knew something - or played some part in it all.

0:12:50 > 0:12:52- With the help - of someone in authority...

0:12:53 > 0:12:55- ..these men - did everything they could...

0:12:56 > 0:12:59- ..to stop any investigation - into the home.

0:13:00 > 0:13:02- And we think that person...

0:13:05 > 0:13:08- ..is Chief Superintendent - Brian Prosser.

0:13:25 > 0:13:28- I understand that this - is difficult for you.

0:13:29 > 0:13:32- If you feel uncomfortable - about all this...

0:13:32 > 0:13:35- ..you have the opportunity - to say something now.

0:13:44 > 0:13:45- No.

0:13:46 > 0:13:48- This is important.

0:13:51 > 0:13:52- Lloyd?

0:13:57 > 0:13:59- What do you want us to do, sir?

0:14:01 > 0:14:02- Thank you.

0:14:04 > 0:14:06- We need to know - if any of these men...

0:14:06 > 0:14:10- ..had contact with other - children's homes in the area.

0:14:10 > 0:14:11- Yes, sir.

0:14:12 > 0:14:17- Check if any complaints were made - against Haydn Blake and Robert Owen.

0:14:18 > 0:14:20- And Chief Superintendent Prosser.

0:14:21 > 0:14:22- OK.

0:14:26 > 0:14:28- I know that this is difficult.

0:14:30 > 0:14:33- These children - were let down by a system...

0:14:33 > 0:14:35- ..that was meant to protect them.

0:14:36 > 0:14:38- Their lives have been ruined.

0:14:39 > 0:14:42- And their abusers - have gone unpunished.

0:14:44 > 0:14:46- We have to find them.

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0:15:31 > 0:15:32- TELEPHONE

0:15:35 > 0:15:36- Yes?

0:15:36 > 0:15:38- Paul's gone.

0:15:38 > 0:15:42- He's been gone for hours. - He isn't answering his phone.

0:15:42 > 0:15:44- I've never seen him like this.

0:15:45 > 0:15:45- Find him, please.

0:15:45 > 0:15:48- Find him, please.- - We'll find him. It'll be alright.

0:15:49 > 0:15:50- We need to go.

0:17:15 > 0:17:17- ECHOED VOICES

0:17:38 > 0:17:40- Can I help you?

0:17:42 > 0:17:44- Can I help you?

0:17:45 > 0:17:47- Can I help you?

0:19:27 > 0:19:29- Agnes?

0:19:32 > 0:19:33- Paul?

0:19:42 > 0:19:43- Paul?

0:19:45 > 0:19:46- Agnes?

0:19:47 > 0:19:48- Are you alright?

0:19:48 > 0:19:49- Are you alright?- - He was upstairs.

0:19:53 > 0:19:54- Paul?

0:21:07 > 0:21:10- She used to lock us in that room - for days on end.

0:21:11 > 0:21:12- Helen Jenkins?

0:21:16 > 0:21:18- She said that the devil - was inside us.

0:21:20 > 0:21:22- But she was the evil one.

0:21:25 > 0:21:27- That's where it happened.

0:21:29 > 0:21:31- That's where it all happened.

0:21:32 > 0:21:34- Room 10.

0:21:36 > 0:21:38- The Hard Room.

0:21:41 > 0:21:43- The things they did to us...

0:21:46 > 0:21:47- How can that happen?

0:21:51 > 0:21:53- We were just kids.

0:21:54 > 0:21:56- That's what happened to me...

0:21:57 > 0:21:58- ..Catrin...

0:21:58 > 0:21:59- ..Kieron.

0:22:06 > 0:22:08- I couldn't stop them.

0:22:10 > 0:22:12- It wasn't your fault.

0:22:12 > 0:22:17- Kieron died because of me. He killed - himself because I said nothing.

0:22:17 > 0:22:19- We'll find out who did it.

0:22:19 > 0:22:20- OK?

0:22:20 > 0:22:21- OK?- - How?

0:22:22 > 0:22:24- How are you going to find them?

0:22:24 > 0:22:27- Catrin's dead. Kieron's dead. - They're all dead.

0:22:28 > 0:22:30- You know what happened here.

0:22:33 > 0:22:34- You can speak for them.

0:22:35 > 0:22:37- I don't remember anything. - I've tried.

0:22:42 > 0:22:44- I've tried.

0:22:46 > 0:22:48- But I can't remember.

0:22:54 > 0:22:58- What happened in that room - is like a bad dream.

0:22:59 > 0:23:01- Like none of it is real.

0:23:01 > 0:23:04- But I know it's real. - I know it happened.

0:23:08 > 0:23:10- I just don't remember.

0:23:10 > 0:23:12- I don't remember their faces.

0:23:14 > 0:23:15- Just the...

0:23:22 > 0:23:23- Just what, Paul?

0:23:28 > 0:23:30- Just his stench.

0:23:34 > 0:23:37- I remember the smell of the bastard.

0:23:40 > 0:23:41- His hands.

0:23:41 > 0:23:43- His breath.

0:23:45 > 0:23:47- It was like stale tobacco.

0:23:49 > 0:23:51- Pipe tobacco.

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0:25:14 > 0:25:20- On the night Iwan Thomas died, - Robert Owen had a call at 2.55am.

0:25:20 > 0:25:22- It lasted for 30 seconds.

0:25:23 > 0:25:25- Why would he - get a call at that time?

0:25:25 > 0:25:26- Who called him?

0:25:26 > 0:25:28- Who called him?- - It came from Prosser's house.

0:25:34 > 0:25:36- Sir?

0:25:36 > 0:25:37- What shall we do?

0:25:39 > 0:25:42- Send a unit to Prosser's house - to arrest him.

0:25:43 > 0:25:44- On what charge?

0:25:44 > 0:25:48- On the suspicion of child abuse.

0:25:48 > 0:25:50- We're going to Robert Owen's house.

0:25:50 > 0:25:52- And Sian...

0:25:52 > 0:25:54- ..be discrete.

0:25:55 > 0:25:56- Yes, sir.

0:26:26 > 0:26:27- Hugh Vaughan.

0:26:29 > 0:26:31- What about him?

0:26:33 > 0:26:34- I want the truth.

0:26:36 > 0:26:39- What happened that night?

0:26:42 > 0:26:44- You said he confessed.

0:26:44 > 0:26:45- That he came to you to confess.

0:26:46 > 0:26:49- And when you heard - what he'd done to those children...

0:26:49 > 0:26:54- ..something inside you snapped - and you hit him over and over again.

0:26:56 > 0:26:58- Yes.

0:27:00 > 0:27:01- But that isn't the truth.

0:27:03 > 0:27:06- I helped you to bury the body.

0:27:07 > 0:27:11- I helped you to sell the lie - that Vaughan had killed himself.

0:27:13 > 0:27:14- You said he was guilty.

0:27:16 > 0:27:20- But the abuse continued - after Blake and I got rid of him.

0:27:24 > 0:27:25- You lied.

0:27:29 > 0:27:30- Why?

0:27:35 > 0:27:38- Blake is a weak man.

0:27:40 > 0:27:41- Just like you.

0:27:44 > 0:27:49- That's why I called you and Haydn - on the night of Vaughan's death.

0:27:49 > 0:27:52- I knew that you two - were the sort of men...

0:27:53 > 0:27:54- ..that I needed.

0:28:13 > 0:28:14- It was you.

0:28:18 > 0:28:20- You were the abuser.

0:28:25 > 0:28:28- That's why you killed him.

0:28:33 > 0:28:37- He knew that something was happening - in the children's home.

0:28:39 > 0:28:40- He came to see me.

0:28:40 > 0:28:43- He suspected - that some of the children...

0:28:44 > 0:28:46- ..were being abused.

0:28:48 > 0:28:50- He wanted me to look into it.

0:28:53 > 0:28:54- I was...

0:28:54 > 0:28:56- ..the chief of police.

0:29:00 > 0:29:03- He never once thought - that I was involved in it.

0:29:05 > 0:29:06- I had to stop him.

0:29:07 > 0:29:10- I couldn't let him talk - or go public with it all.

0:29:10 > 0:29:13- It would have ruined my whole life.

0:29:14 > 0:29:15- Ruined your life?

0:29:17 > 0:29:19- What about the lives - of those children?

0:29:20 > 0:29:23- I helped those children.

0:29:23 > 0:29:25- I gave them opportunities.

0:29:27 > 0:29:29- The chance of a new life.

0:29:29 > 0:29:30- You abused them.

0:29:33 > 0:29:34- I just...

0:29:36 > 0:29:38- ..took a little something back.

0:29:39 > 0:29:41- They were innocent children.

0:29:42 > 0:29:43- Innocent?

0:29:43 > 0:29:44- Innocent?- - Yes.

0:29:46 > 0:29:48- They were juvenile offenders.

0:29:48 > 0:29:50- Locked away to protect society.

0:29:51 > 0:29:52- I was the only one who cared.

0:29:53 > 0:29:55- The only one - to show them any affection.

0:29:56 > 0:29:59- Catrin John was only 14 - when she fell pregnant.

0:29:59 > 0:30:01- Pregnant with your child!

0:30:18 > 0:30:19- Who are you...

0:30:21 > 0:30:22- ..to judge me?

0:30:23 > 0:30:24- Eh?

0:30:30 > 0:30:33- Look what you did to Iwan Thomas.

0:30:35 > 0:30:37- You destroyed him.

0:30:37 > 0:30:39- You destroyed his career, his life.

0:30:39 > 0:30:41- You took everything from him.

0:30:43 > 0:30:46- And when he threatened you...

0:30:46 > 0:30:48- ..what did you do?

0:30:48 > 0:30:50- You did exactly the same as me.

0:30:50 > 0:30:53- You dealt with the problem.

0:30:53 > 0:30:55- I am nothing like you.

0:30:55 > 0:30:59- You killed an innocent man - to save your own skin.

0:31:01 > 0:31:03- You're exactly the same as me.

0:31:05 > 0:31:07- I am nothing like you!

0:31:08 > 0:31:09- Nothing!

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0:35:21 > 0:35:22- I didn't know what to do.

0:35:26 > 0:35:27- Vaughan.

0:35:31 > 0:35:34- He was already dead - when I got to the house that night.

0:35:38 > 0:35:41- I just helped to cover it up.

0:35:44 > 0:35:45- And buried the body.

0:35:49 > 0:35:51- I thought I was doing - the right thing.

0:35:52 > 0:35:54- You were a police officer.

0:35:55 > 0:35:57- You had a responsibility - to your job.

0:35:59 > 0:36:01- Robert Owen was my boss.

0:36:01 > 0:36:03- He was the chief of police.

0:36:06 > 0:36:08- And I trusted him.

0:36:08 > 0:36:12- Robert Owen used his position - to abuse those children.

0:36:12 > 0:36:14- He drugged them and raped them.

0:36:15 > 0:36:19- He murdered Hugh Vaughan, - and you did nothing about it.

0:36:19 > 0:36:22- He told me - that Vaughan was responsible.

0:36:23 > 0:36:26- Vaughan didn't harm those children.

0:36:27 > 0:36:30- He had nothing to do - with the abuse in the home.

0:36:31 > 0:36:34- This man, Robert Owen.

0:36:36 > 0:36:37- Your friend.

0:36:37 > 0:36:39- Your boss.

0:36:39 > 0:36:42- The man you defended.

0:36:42 > 0:36:45- The man who went unpunished.

0:36:46 > 0:36:48- Kieron Jones.

0:36:50 > 0:36:51- Catrin John.

0:36:53 > 0:36:54- Paul Webb.

0:36:56 > 0:36:59- All those lives were ruined.

0:36:59 > 0:37:02- Iwan Thomas knew something, - didn't he?

0:37:05 > 0:37:08- You tried to stop him - investigating further...

0:37:08 > 0:37:09- ..but he wouldn't give up.

0:37:10 > 0:37:11- He was determined.

0:37:12 > 0:37:15- He was getting closer to the truth.

0:37:15 > 0:37:18- That's why he called you - on the night he died.

0:37:19 > 0:37:20- To meet you.

0:37:20 > 0:37:23- You arranged to meet him - at Devil's Bridge.

0:37:23 > 0:37:26- And when you got there...

0:37:26 > 0:37:27- ..he threatened you.

0:37:27 > 0:37:29- He was going to expose you.

0:37:30 > 0:37:32- The truth was going to come out.

0:37:33 > 0:37:35- You didn't know what to do.

0:37:36 > 0:37:38- The children's home.

0:37:39 > 0:37:40- Hugh Vaughan.

0:37:40 > 0:37:42- His blood was on your hands.

0:37:44 > 0:37:48- You had to silence Iwan Thomas, - and that's why you killed him.

0:37:50 > 0:37:53- Isn't that why - you killed Iwan Thomas?

0:38:02 > 0:38:03- Yes.

0:38:52 > 0:38:53- Tom?

0:38:54 > 0:38:58- Do you remember the day - you offered your resignation?

0:39:00 > 0:39:01- Do you know why I refused?

0:39:04 > 0:39:06- Because you were born - to do this job.

0:39:09 > 0:39:10- It's in your blood.

0:40:17 > 0:40:20- The fibres found under - the fingernails of Iwan Thomas.

0:40:21 > 0:40:25- They match the fibres - taken from Prosser's coat.

0:40:37 > 0:40:38- Tom?

0:40:40 > 0:40:42- We did the right thing.

0:40:51 > 0:40:52- I know.

0:40:56 > 0:40:59- We need to build a case - to present to the CPS.

0:41:00 > 0:41:01- Sian...

0:41:02 > 0:41:07- Contact Forensics to compare the DNA - of Robert Owen and Catrin's baby.

0:41:08 > 0:41:09- Yes, sir.

0:41:09 > 0:41:13- Do we know if Robert Owen had - contact with any other children?

0:41:14 > 0:41:15- Not yet, sir.

0:41:17 > 0:41:19- Keep digging.

0:41:19 > 0:41:21- Keep digging.- - Yes, sir.

0:41:24 > 0:41:26- I'll talk to Ethni Vaughan.

0:41:26 > 0:41:30- She deserves to know the truth - about what happened to her son.

0:41:32 > 0:41:33- Mared?

0:41:40 > 0:41:41- Thanks.

0:43:09 > 0:43:10- Oh!

0:43:11 > 0:43:12- Boom!

0:43:14 > 0:43:15- Whoa!

0:43:15 > 0:43:16- Boom!

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