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0:00:17 > 0:00:20- We were pretty shambolic, - but we had fun.
0:00:21 > 0:00:25- For the next hour, we'll guide you - along the timeline...
0:00:25 > 0:00:28- ..and musical journey - of the members of Y Tebot Piws.
0:00:28 > 0:00:30- Why the name Y Tebot Piws?
0:00:31 > 0:00:32- Well, Mr Jones...
0:00:32 > 0:00:34- Well, Mr Jones...- - You can call me sir.
0:00:34 > 0:00:35- OK, sir, Mr Jones.
0:00:36 > 0:00:39- We wanted to call ourselves - Huw Jones or Dafydd Iwan...
0:00:39 > 0:00:42- ..but they were already taken.
0:00:42 > 0:00:45- The original name - was Potiwrs Gwynedd.
0:00:46 > 0:00:48- We'll look - at their musical careers...
0:00:49 > 0:00:52- ..between forming in 1968 - and this year's final gig.
0:00:53 > 0:00:57- The word that crops up most - is "fun".
0:00:57 > 0:01:01- # Goodness gracious, do sit down, - someone has stolen my nose!
0:01:02 > 0:01:07- # Goodness gracious, do sit down, - someone has stolen my nose!
0:01:08 > 0:01:12- They were punk before punk emerged.
0:01:12 > 0:01:14- Complete nutters!
0:01:21 > 0:01:24- If you've heard of John Jones, - the wooden lad...
0:01:25 > 0:01:29- ..and if you've left Llanfihangel - or milked the cow...
0:01:29 > 0:01:33- ..you will be aware - of the crazy Y Tebot Piws gang.
0:01:40 > 0:01:43- # I'm going back - to Blaenau Ffestiniog
0:01:44 > 0:01:47- # Catching the first train - out of town
0:01:48 > 0:01:51- # I'm going back - to Blaenau Ffestiniog
0:01:51 > 0:01:55- # Because it's my seventh heaven #
0:01:55 > 0:01:59- We started in 1968 - at Cyncoed College.
0:01:59 > 0:02:01- Stan was there.
0:02:02 > 0:02:05- He was my classmate at school, - so I knew him.
0:02:05 > 0:02:07- We met Sbardun.
0:02:08 > 0:02:12- He had a guitar, - and I had some sort of guitar.
0:02:12 > 0:02:18- We started to fool around. Stan - was a fantastic singer at school.
0:02:18 > 0:02:22- # I'm going back - to Blaenau Ffestiniog
0:02:22 > 0:02:25- # Because it's my seventh heaven #
0:02:26 > 0:02:29- We started jamming...
0:02:29 > 0:02:34- ..and began to think - about composing songs.
0:02:34 > 0:02:36- We wrote John Jones.
0:02:37 > 0:02:41- It took at least twenty minutes, - if I remember rightly.
0:02:41 > 0:02:45- We rushed to the girls' room - to sing the song...
0:02:45 > 0:02:47- ..and not for any other reason!
0:02:48 > 0:02:53- We saw an advert - for a pop eisteddfod in Denbigh.
0:02:54 > 0:02:56- We decided to give it a go.
0:02:57 > 0:03:01- We won 6 - 2 each.
0:03:02 > 0:03:04- It was a lot of beer!
0:03:06 > 0:03:12- Despite their success in Denbigh, - Y Tebot Piws wasn't complete.
0:03:12 > 0:03:14- A fourth member was yet to join.
0:03:19 > 0:03:24- Me and a schoolmate were in a band - called The Outlanders.
0:03:25 > 0:03:26- We sang in English.
0:03:26 > 0:03:31- # Freight train, freight train, - going so fast #
0:03:32 > 0:03:35- Our first gig - was at Swansea Labour Club.
0:03:35 > 0:03:37- We were getting ten bob.
0:03:37 > 0:03:41- We sang two songs and the bloke - gave us ten bob and said...
0:03:41 > 0:03:45- .."Go up the Conservative Club. - They might like you up there."
0:03:46 > 0:03:47- Not a good start!
0:03:47 > 0:03:52- We were students - and had already come across Dewi.
0:03:52 > 0:03:56- He played guitar and sang.
0:03:56 > 0:04:01- He came to us after our Denbigh win - and said, "You sing in Welsh."
0:04:01 > 0:04:02- "Yes," we said.
0:04:02 > 0:04:07- "I've composed a few Welsh songs," - he continued. "You can have them."
0:04:08 > 0:04:10- He gave us three or four songs...
0:04:10 > 0:04:14- ..including Mari - and Dan Ddwr Oer Y Llyn.
0:04:14 > 0:04:16- We thought they were good.
0:04:17 > 0:04:21- Dewi suggested improvements - whenever we played them.
0:04:21 > 0:04:26- Sbardun finally gave in and said, - "Join us if you're so bloody good!"
0:04:26 > 0:04:29- "I thought you'd never ask," - said Dewi.
0:04:30 > 0:04:32- We were four now.
0:04:33 > 0:04:35- That's when it started for real.
0:04:36 > 0:04:40- In those days, bands' gigs - were more of a variety show.
0:04:40 > 0:04:43- Y Tebot Piws - created quite an impression.
0:04:44 > 0:04:46- All sorts of groups - would perform.
0:04:47 > 0:04:51- Five or six bands or soloists - would take part.
0:04:52 > 0:04:57- Everyone sang a couple of songs - in the first and second half.
0:04:57 > 0:05:00- It was easier than it is today.
0:05:00 > 0:05:04- People expect us to perform - for up to 90 minutes.
0:05:04 > 0:05:10- At the time, all Welsh songs - were very melancholy.
0:05:11 > 0:05:14- There were protest songs, - and everything was sad.
0:05:15 > 0:05:17- Everyone dressed similarly.
0:05:17 > 0:05:21- We wanted to do - something completely different.
0:05:21 > 0:05:23- We didn't practise a lot.
0:05:23 > 0:05:28- We were only on for five minutes, - ten minutes at the most.
0:05:28 > 0:05:33- We'd be in the pub by eight - - and we'd been paid a fiver!
0:05:34 > 0:05:37- The band recorded four EPs - before 1972.
0:05:37 > 0:05:42- The instrumental wizardry - of The James Hogg Band...
0:05:42 > 0:05:44- ..who also played on the records...
0:05:44 > 0:05:47- ..was a far cry - from seeing Y Tebot Piws live.
0:05:48 > 0:05:50- Y Tebot Piws were great on record.
0:05:50 > 0:05:52- But unfortunately...
0:05:52 > 0:05:55- ..gigs were a major stumbling block.
0:05:55 > 0:05:59- They didn't turn up, - or one member didn't turn up.
0:06:00 > 0:06:04- I remember watching Disc A Dawn - in the New Ely.
0:06:04 > 0:06:06- It was fantastic at the time.
0:06:07 > 0:06:10- Suddenly, I heard, "Tonight, - Y Tebot Piws are in Llan-non!"
0:06:12 > 0:06:16- I realized I'd arranged it. - We didn't make it.
0:06:17 > 0:06:21- We had no hope of reaching Llan-non!
0:06:21 > 0:06:26- We phoned to say the car had broken - down and promised them a free gig.
0:06:26 > 0:06:29- They didn't show up for that either.
0:06:29 > 0:06:33- I say they, because I didn't - even know about the gig.
0:06:33 > 0:06:35- He did know! He was too lazy!
0:06:36 > 0:06:40- If someone said to Ems...
0:06:41 > 0:06:45- .."Wouldn't it be a great idea - to go for a walk around the lake?"
0:06:45 > 0:06:50- He'd say, "I've got a better idea. - Let's not."
0:06:51 > 0:06:53- # Farewell, Llanfihangel
0:06:53 > 0:06:56- # I'm leaving on the wind
0:06:57 > 0:06:58- # Oh, farewell
0:06:59 > 0:07:01- # The sun is guiding me
0:07:01 > 0:07:03- # To the Wales of yesteryear
0:07:03 > 0:07:05- # Oh, farewell
0:07:06 > 0:07:09- # The dark skies will fade
0:07:09 > 0:07:12- # A new dawn we'll see
0:07:14 > 0:07:15- # I'm flying now
0:07:16 > 0:07:19- # And I can hold my head up high
0:07:20 > 0:07:22- # Oh, farewell, Llanfihangel
0:07:23 > 0:07:25- # I see gentle Dewi
0:07:26 > 0:07:27- # Oh, farewell #
0:07:28 > 0:07:34- We were spitting on stage - long before the punks...
0:07:34 > 0:07:37- ..especially - when we sang a serious song.
0:07:37 > 0:07:41- If Dewi wanted to sing a sad song...
0:07:43 > 0:07:47- ..I knew he would sing Lleucu Llwyd.
0:07:48 > 0:07:53- Someone accidentally spat - on someone's cheek.
0:07:55 > 0:07:58- He spat back.
0:07:59 > 0:08:03- By the end of the song, - their T-shirts were soaking!
0:08:04 > 0:08:08- They spat at each other - regularly after that.
0:08:09 > 0:08:11- It was an odd thing to do.
0:08:11 > 0:08:16- Five years later, Johnny Rotten - did exactly the same thing.
0:08:17 > 0:08:19- He must have been - to one of our gigs.
0:08:19 > 0:08:24- I've been thinking about the awful - jokes you crack on stage and TV.
0:08:24 > 0:08:28- Are you a band - that's trying to be funny...
0:08:28 > 0:08:33- ..with the emphasis on trying, - or a real band that's lost its way?
0:08:34 > 0:08:35- Yes.
0:08:35 > 0:08:38- I'd had a few pints - before a gig in Rhyl.
0:08:39 > 0:08:43- I'd stolen Alun Ffred's mac.
0:08:43 > 0:08:46- He still bangs on about that mac!
0:08:46 > 0:08:49- I was so drunk, - I didn't even take the mac off.
0:08:50 > 0:08:53- In fact, - the guitar stayed in the case!
0:08:53 > 0:08:58- If we knew there'd be good guitars - at a gig...
0:08:58 > 0:09:01- ..Ems and I - would end up quarrelling.
0:09:02 > 0:09:05- If Huw Jones was on the bill...
0:09:05 > 0:09:09- ..we knew he'd bring his fantastic - Hagstrom acoustic guitar.
0:09:10 > 0:09:13- Meic Stevens helped him buy it.
0:09:13 > 0:09:15- It was a great guitar.
0:09:15 > 0:09:21- We'd argue over who would ask - to borrow his guitar.
0:09:21 > 0:09:23- Huw Jones's guitar!
0:09:23 > 0:09:28- I was a terrible band mate. - I didn't even bring a guitar.
0:09:28 > 0:09:32- I just turned up - in Alun Ffred's mac with a few quid.
0:09:33 > 0:09:38- We'd chat amongst ourselves. - "Who's playing on Saturday?"
0:09:38 > 0:09:42- "Y Diliau, and so and so."
0:09:42 > 0:09:46- "Is Huw Jones singing?" "Yes." - "OK, we'll do the gig."
0:09:47 > 0:09:51- None of us had a guitar - for many of the gigs
0:09:51 > 0:09:54- We'd use Dafydd Iwan's guitar!
0:09:54 > 0:09:57- # Two little dogs go to the forest
0:09:58 > 0:10:00- # With a new shoe on each foot #
0:10:00 > 0:10:05- Despite the chaos and anarchy, - the band's following grew.
0:10:06 > 0:10:10- They appeared on Disc A Dawn and - topped the Asbri and Y Cymro charts.
0:10:12 > 0:10:17- Pws composes fantastic songs - out of nothing.
0:10:17 > 0:10:20- He composed Nwy Yn Y Nen...
0:10:20 > 0:10:24- ..when we drove from a gig - through Port Talbot.
0:10:25 > 0:10:30- He noticed a strange neon light, - and it was a misty night.
0:10:32 > 0:10:34- He saw a sign for British Gas.
0:10:34 > 0:10:38- The Welsh word for gas is "nwy", - so I started to sing.
0:10:38 > 0:10:42- Stan began harmonizing. - We realized it was a nice tune.
0:10:43 > 0:10:46- We wrote it in ten minutes. - It came just like that.
0:10:48 > 0:10:50- We won 50.
0:10:51 > 0:10:54- Fifty quid! They get 10,000 now!
0:10:55 > 0:11:01- Roly, the presenter, - didn't know me from Adam.
0:11:02 > 0:11:04- He shook my hand.
0:11:04 > 0:11:08- He said, "Did you dream you'd win?"
0:11:09 > 0:11:11- Yes, something like that.
0:11:12 > 0:11:14- I just lifted my shirt!
0:11:15 > 0:11:16- Everyone collapsed.
0:11:17 > 0:11:22- Roly said to Huw Jones, "I hadn't - realized Dewi didn't speak Welsh."
0:11:22 > 0:11:24- I wrote the song!
0:11:28 > 0:11:32- By the end of 1972, Y Tebot Piws - had split up - for the time being.
0:11:33 > 0:11:37- Their individual contribution - to the Welsh pop scene continued.
0:11:38 > 0:11:42- Members felt that they wanted - to do something else.
0:11:42 > 0:11:46- I was working on a magazine, Swn.
0:11:47 > 0:11:49- I was the co-editor with Dafydd Mei.
0:11:50 > 0:11:54- Pws wanted to start a heavier band.
0:11:55 > 0:11:58- Dewi Pws, - heavier band, after the break.
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0:12:08 > 0:12:13- After Y Tebot Piws split up in 1972, - the members followed separate paths.
0:12:13 > 0:12:17- Dewi Pws turned his hand - to a heavier style.
0:12:20 > 0:12:24- He loves Status Quo, - he truly loves Quo.
0:12:25 > 0:12:30- He has always dreamt - of being a rock singer.
0:12:36 > 0:12:39- # Wild dream of the long needle #
0:12:41 > 0:12:45- I often slept on Hefin Elis's floor - in Aberystwyth.
0:12:45 > 0:12:50- "Come on, they're open!" - he'd say at eight in the morning.
0:12:50 > 0:12:55- Dewi and I spent a lot of time - in Aberystwyth's Marine Hotel.
0:12:56 > 0:12:59- There was a jukebox - in the cellar bar.
0:12:59 > 0:13:03- Rod Stewart's Maggie May - struck a chord with me.
0:13:03 > 0:13:09- It was a combination - of rock and folksy mandolin.
0:13:10 > 0:13:14- I liked the blend of rock and folk.
0:13:15 > 0:13:18- That was the direction - I wanted to take.
0:13:18 > 0:13:20- # Holes in their white arms
0:13:21 > 0:13:23- # That's where the money goes #
0:13:23 > 0:13:27- Edward H was Hefin Elis's vision.
0:13:28 > 0:13:32- The lad from Port Talbot - studied music at university.
0:13:32 > 0:13:37- He'd already played with Chwyldro...
0:13:38 > 0:13:42- ..whose songs championed - the Welsh Language Society.
0:13:44 > 0:13:47- Datguddiad - was another heavy rock band...
0:13:48 > 0:13:52- ..in the tradition of Y Blew.
0:13:53 > 0:13:56- He realized his dream with Edward H.
0:13:57 > 0:13:59- He created a heavy rock band...
0:14:00 > 0:14:04- ..that captured - Welsh speakers' imagination.
0:14:04 > 0:14:08- Perhaps Edward H - was Hefin and Dewi's vision.
0:14:08 > 0:14:10- They wouldn't perform live...
0:14:10 > 0:14:14- ..until John Griffiths - and Charli Britton joined them.
0:14:15 > 0:14:19- Speculation was rife - before the first Edward H gig.
0:14:19 > 0:14:23- The members had come - from different bands.
0:14:23 > 0:14:25- Could they succeed?
0:14:26 > 0:14:30- Their first gig was a noson lawen.
0:14:31 > 0:14:35- There were folk performers, - a choir and cerdd dant singers.
0:14:36 > 0:14:40- Then these boys came on stage - with guitars.
0:14:40 > 0:14:44- Dewi Pws started to sing - Can Y Stiwdants.
0:14:47 > 0:14:50- Well... the place erupted.
0:14:54 > 0:14:56- Edward H was born.
0:15:00 > 0:15:05- But the band wasn't complete - - there was something missing.
0:15:05 > 0:15:10- They didn't have to look far. - Ac Eraill were on stage that night.
0:15:11 > 0:15:15- There was nothing wrong - with Dewi's voice...
0:15:15 > 0:15:21- ..but he could sing some things - better than others.
0:15:21 > 0:15:24- I was looking for a different voice.
0:15:25 > 0:15:27- I wanted to take a step back.
0:15:27 > 0:15:31- I didn't know the chords, - so Hefin kept scowling at me.
0:15:32 > 0:15:34- Ac Eraill were big at the time.
0:15:34 > 0:15:37- We really wanted Cleif.
0:15:37 > 0:15:40- People like to think - that things turned sour.
0:15:41 > 0:15:43- If there was any resentment...
0:15:43 > 0:15:45- ..to be honest, it was my fault.
0:15:46 > 0:15:51- I remember the night I had to tell - Ac Eraill I'd made up my mind...
0:15:52 > 0:15:54- ..to join Edward H.
0:15:54 > 0:15:59- I can still see and remember - their disappointment.
0:16:00 > 0:16:06- Hefin Elis, Pws - and Charli Britton...
0:16:06 > 0:16:11- ..asked me - whether the folk music route...
0:16:11 > 0:16:14- ..was the one I wanted to take.
0:16:14 > 0:16:16- They suggested I turned to rock.
0:16:17 > 0:16:18- # Nightmare #
0:16:19 > 0:16:23- With Cleif on board, they recorded - Hen Ffordd Gymreig O Fyw.
0:16:24 > 0:16:27- It sold 998 within a fortnight...
0:16:27 > 0:16:30- ..and almost 3,000 in two years.
0:16:31 > 0:16:38- There was a lot of anticipation - surrounding their first album.
0:16:39 > 0:16:43- I wasn't disappointed. - It summed up the period perfectly.
0:16:44 > 0:16:47- They mixed folk and rock.
0:16:47 > 0:16:50- When the album was released...
0:16:50 > 0:16:56- ..it was one of the best albums - I'd ever heard.
0:16:57 > 0:17:01- # In a cottage by the river
0:17:02 > 0:17:07- # I keep speckled cattle
0:17:08 > 0:17:13- # I have a house - on the banks of the Taff
0:17:14 > 0:17:19- # Oh, come to me, Gwenfron #
0:17:27 > 0:17:32- Edward H was fast becoming the - most popular Welsh language band.
0:17:32 > 0:17:37- The band inevitably imitated - the humour and chaos of Tebot Piws.
0:17:38 > 0:17:41- We wanted to be groundbreaking.
0:17:42 > 0:17:45- We'd have a light show.
0:17:47 > 0:17:50- We had flash lights that blew up.
0:17:51 > 0:17:52- It was terrible.
0:17:53 > 0:17:58- We knew the flash - would go off when we sang VC10.
0:17:59 > 0:18:03- One of the blokes set off the flash.
0:18:04 > 0:18:09- We were such wimps, acting rock and - roll at the front of the stage.
0:18:09 > 0:18:10- # VC10 #
0:18:11 > 0:18:14- Then we ran back - before the flash.
0:18:14 > 0:18:16- It was like Spinal Tap.
0:18:16 > 0:18:18- By the mid 1970s...
0:18:18 > 0:18:23- ..Edward H was the first Welsh band - to have a mass following.
0:18:25 > 0:18:31- The band put a stop to the idea - that singing in Welsh was corny.
0:18:31 > 0:18:33- Everyone went bonkers.
0:18:34 > 0:18:37- People dressed like them.
0:18:37 > 0:18:40- They had groupies everywhere.
0:18:43 > 0:18:44- Yeah.
0:18:45 > 0:18:50- From then on, - Wales had its own rock scene.
0:18:51 > 0:18:54- As a result of Cleif - joining Edward H Dafis...
0:18:54 > 0:18:57- ..there was a gap to fill - in Ac Eraill.
0:18:57 > 0:19:01- Another Tebot member - would broaden his musical horizon.
0:19:01 > 0:19:03- After Y Tebot Piws split up...
0:19:05 > 0:19:09- ..Sbardun joined Ac Eraill.
0:19:17 > 0:19:20- Ac Eraill were Tecwyn Ifan, - formerly of Perlau Taf...
0:19:21 > 0:19:24- ..Iestyn Garlick, - Phil Edwards and Huw Williams.
0:19:25 > 0:19:30- They wanted to stick - to traditional Welsh folk music.
0:19:31 > 0:19:34- They composed their own songs.
0:19:34 > 0:19:37- They were also involved - with the revolution.
0:19:37 > 0:19:42- They were more aligned to Adfer - than the Welsh Language Society.
0:19:42 > 0:19:46- They captivated audiences - with their long hair.
0:19:47 > 0:19:51- They sang about what worried - the younger generation.
0:19:51 > 0:19:56- We tried to follow - Y Tebot Piws's footsteps.
0:19:57 > 0:20:00- There was room for humorous songs.
0:20:01 > 0:20:04- We only recorded a few of those.
0:20:04 > 0:20:09- We evolved to sing the type of song - that Tecs composed.
0:20:09 > 0:20:12- They were serious...
0:20:12 > 0:20:17- ..and more political, about - the language and Adfer ideology.
0:20:18 > 0:20:23- # The leader - of Mynachlog-ddu parish #
0:20:23 > 0:20:27- The band often performed - at events arranged by Adfer.
0:20:27 > 0:20:32- Many of their songs were influenced - by Emyr Llewelyn's speeches.
0:20:32 > 0:20:37- As a movement, - Adfer had a certain appeal for me.
0:20:38 > 0:20:41- It rolled up its sleeves - to do something.
0:20:41 > 0:20:45- It didn't stand on a soapbox - and shout about something.
0:20:46 > 0:20:49- They bought - and renovated old houses.
0:20:51 > 0:20:55- Volunteers would do them up - for local people.
0:20:55 > 0:20:59- I didn't agree with some - of Adfer's philosophies.
0:21:00 > 0:21:03- They were too right-wing for me.
0:21:03 > 0:21:05- On the whole...
0:21:05 > 0:21:09- ..I was happy - to be a member of Ac Eraill.
0:21:10 > 0:21:14- The international success of Celtic - musicians like Alan Stivell...
0:21:15 > 0:21:17- ..opened the door - to other folk groups.
0:21:17 > 0:21:22- Ac Eraill were to perform - in Nantes in Brittany.
0:21:22 > 0:21:26- We had a dilemma - - our van had died.
0:21:27 > 0:21:32- We called the van Nia Ben Las. - It was totally clapped out.
0:21:33 > 0:21:36- Mici Plwm was our manager.
0:21:37 > 0:21:43- Shakin' Stevens And The Sunsets - lent me the van.
0:21:44 > 0:21:46- They lived in Penarth.
0:21:47 > 0:21:51- Mici and I went - to Shakin' Stevens's mother's house.
0:21:51 > 0:21:54- I knocked the door - and asked for the van.
0:21:54 > 0:21:58- "Shakin' needs it to play in Germany - next week." "OK, fine."
0:21:58 > 0:22:00- We set off.
0:22:00 > 0:22:02- Sbardun sat in the front with me.
0:22:03 > 0:22:06- I can't remember - who was in the middle.
0:22:06 > 0:22:10- Sbardun sat in the front - because we both came from Penrhyn.
0:22:11 > 0:22:14- He lied - and said he could speak French.
0:22:14 > 0:22:17- It was a ruse to sit in the front.
0:22:18 > 0:22:20- The only French he knew...
0:22:21 > 0:22:25- ..was the French - of the tea advert chimpanzees.
0:22:25 > 0:22:30- On the quay in Calais, - he shouted out...
0:22:30 > 0:22:32- .."avez-vous un map?"
0:22:33 > 0:22:35- That's all he could say!
0:22:35 > 0:22:36- That's all he could say!- - I got sent to the back!
0:22:37 > 0:22:40- In that period...
0:22:40 > 0:22:42- ..1973-1974...
0:22:43 > 0:22:46- ..many bands - considered the possibility...
0:22:46 > 0:22:51- ..of making a living out of it, - and becoming a professional band.
0:22:51 > 0:22:56- Sbardun was keen.
0:22:57 > 0:23:02- I couldn't think of anything else. - I wanted to have a crack at it.
0:23:02 > 0:23:05- I knew it would be hard, - but I wanted to give it a go.
0:23:06 > 0:23:10- Sbardun was the only one - in a position to do it.
0:23:10 > 0:23:13- I reckon he regrets - not taking the gamble.
0:23:13 > 0:23:18- I realized the rest of the boys - were only starting out.
0:23:18 > 0:23:22- They were finishing college. - It was more of a gamble for them.
0:23:23 > 0:23:27- Most of us realized - we had to go back to college.
0:23:27 > 0:23:30- We couldn't afford - to do it full-time.
0:23:31 > 0:23:33- # Nia Ben Aur
0:23:34 > 0:23:36- # From Tir na nOg
0:23:37 > 0:23:42- # You were the most beautiful girl - Osian ever saw #
0:23:43 > 0:23:47- The song Nia Ben Aur - was warmly received in gigs.
0:23:47 > 0:23:51- The first Welsh rock opera - was based on the song and legend.
0:23:52 > 0:23:57- Welsh youth could see a contemporary - production in their own country.
0:23:58 > 0:24:00- Nia Ben Aur was pioneering.
0:24:01 > 0:24:06- Apart from a rock opera on HTV - a few years earlier...
0:24:06 > 0:24:10- ..with Meic Stevens, - Heather and Geraint Jarman...
0:24:11 > 0:24:16- ..it was the first theatrical - Welsh language rock opera.
0:24:16 > 0:24:21- The National Eisteddfod officials - gave them the chance...
0:24:21 > 0:24:23- ..to create a rock opera.
0:24:24 > 0:24:30- Ac Eraill, Heather Jones, Dewi Pws, - Hefin Elis was musical director.
0:24:30 > 0:24:32- Wynford Ellis Owen directed.
0:24:33 > 0:24:35- They were in charge.
0:24:35 > 0:24:40- They didn't need anyone's help.
0:24:40 > 0:24:43- They had the confidence - to do it themselves.
0:24:43 > 0:24:48- This stemmed from the intellectual - revolution of the previous decade.
0:24:49 > 0:24:53- This generation was confident - enough to do things themselves...
0:24:53 > 0:24:55- ..in Welsh, in Wales.
0:24:55 > 0:24:59- Jesus Christ Superstar was popular.
0:25:01 > 0:25:05- We explored the possibility - of doing it in Welsh.
0:25:05 > 0:25:10- We went on the train to London - to see Jesus Christ Superstar...
0:25:11 > 0:25:13- ..to see how it was put together.
0:25:14 > 0:25:17- We were full of excitement - on our way back.
0:25:17 > 0:25:21- We realized we could do it in Welsh.
0:25:21 > 0:25:24- We worked out a plot.
0:25:25 > 0:25:29- The rock opera was based on - the Irish legend of Oisin and Niamh.
0:25:29 > 0:25:34- Once again, a Celtic influence - tied it all together.
0:25:34 > 0:25:39- We were invited to take part. - It was a fantastic adventure.
0:25:51 > 0:25:54- No-one heard a word on the night.
0:25:55 > 0:25:56- It was a disaster.
0:25:57 > 0:26:00- The band was fine, - but the sound failed.
0:26:00 > 0:26:02- No-one heard a note.
0:26:03 > 0:26:05- Radio mics were new in 1974.
0:26:06 > 0:26:09- Cleif and Heather had radio mics.
0:26:10 > 0:26:11- They just didn't work.
0:26:12 > 0:26:15- Only Dewi Pws's microphone worked.
0:26:15 > 0:26:19- His hand mic was different - from everyone else's.
0:26:20 > 0:26:24- His character would create - the biggest impact, anyway.
0:26:24 > 0:26:28- He had the flash comic role.
0:26:29 > 0:26:33- He had the edge - because everyone could hear him.
0:26:34 > 0:26:36- # Ri, Ri, Ri, King of Tir na nOg
0:26:37 > 0:26:40- # My name is Ri #
0:26:41 > 0:26:43- I watched the show.
0:26:43 > 0:26:47- Arthur Brown sat close to me - in the audience.
0:26:47 > 0:26:50- The Amazing World Of Arthur Brown.
0:26:51 > 0:26:55- He came on stage - with his hair on fire.
0:26:56 > 0:26:59- "I am the god of hell fire, - I bring you fire."
0:26:59 > 0:27:02- He was famous, and he was backstage!
0:27:02 > 0:27:05- "Arthur Brown!" I said. - "Yeah, alright?"
0:27:06 > 0:27:08- "What are you doing here?" - I asked him.
0:27:08 > 0:27:12- "Just come to pick up the vibes, - man, the Celts."
0:27:13 > 0:27:15- "There we are then!" I said.
0:27:15 > 0:27:17- There we are then. T, w, a, t.
0:27:18 > 0:27:19- BLEEP
0:27:22 > 0:27:23- It's unusual today...
0:27:24 > 0:27:29- ..apart from festivals, to have - people playing with other bands.
0:27:30 > 0:27:32- We got to know one another.
0:27:32 > 0:27:37- Everyone contributed - to the composing and performing.
0:27:38 > 0:27:42- It was a catalyst to strengthen - the existing friendships.
0:27:43 > 0:27:46- It was a good feeling.
0:27:47 > 0:27:49- # I'm the King
0:27:49 > 0:27:52- # Ri, Ri, Ri, Ri, - Ri is my name, yeah! #
0:27:55 > 0:27:55- .
0:27:58 > 0:27:58- 888
0:27:58 > 0:28:00- 888- - 888
0:28:02 > 0:28:07- After Edward H split up in 1976, - most of the band formed Injaroc...
0:28:08 > 0:28:13- ..with Geraint Griffiths, Endaf - Emlyn and two members of Sidan.
0:28:13 > 0:28:15- Sidan was nice but not very cool.
0:28:16 > 0:28:21- Perhaps we're cool now, - but at the time we were nicey-nicey.
0:28:21 > 0:28:27- I wanted to get my teeth - into something more meaty.
0:28:28 > 0:28:33- Injaroc was the next step for me.
0:28:40 > 0:28:43- # Who'd give a damn - in the middle of the night? #
0:28:45 > 0:28:52- I first saw Injaroc - in Aberystwyth's old Coliseum.
0:28:52 > 0:28:54- It was packed.
0:28:54 > 0:28:57- Unfortunately for Injaroc...
0:28:58 > 0:29:01- ..a lot of people - weren't happy with the band.
0:29:01 > 0:29:03- They shouted at them.
0:29:03 > 0:29:05- "Where's Dewi Morris?!
0:29:05 > 0:29:09- "What have you done - with Dewi Morris?! It's a disgrace!"
0:29:10 > 0:29:13- They performed several gigs...
0:29:14 > 0:29:17- ..to a disgruntled audience.
0:29:18 > 0:29:25- It all began when someone - suggested the term Anglo-American.
0:29:26 > 0:29:29- It was a mortal sin - to be too Anglo-American.
0:29:30 > 0:29:33- We were all influenced - by Anglo-American music.
0:29:33 > 0:29:35- It was rock and pop music.
0:29:36 > 0:29:39- People said the music - was too sophisticated.
0:29:39 > 0:29:43- It was different - from what Edward H had done.
0:29:43 > 0:29:48- Some Edward H fans were angry.
0:29:49 > 0:29:52- We upset a few people.
0:29:52 > 0:29:57- Either they didn't like the music, - or they felt let down by the split.
0:29:57 > 0:30:03- There was absolutely no chance - that they'd support Injaroc.
0:30:03 > 0:30:06- Injaroc wasn't complicated at all.
0:30:06 > 0:30:09- Looking back, - it's rather embarrassing!
0:30:10 > 0:30:14- We were a bit green, - if you know what I mean!
0:30:14 > 0:30:16- # Mr Chairman
0:30:16 > 0:30:19- # Can I second this motion?
0:30:20 > 0:30:22- # It's a funky notion
0:30:22 > 0:30:24- # Funky notion #
0:30:24 > 0:30:28- The one record - we managed to produce...
0:30:29 > 0:30:31- ..was very good.
0:30:31 > 0:30:33- It was also different.
0:30:34 > 0:30:38- Perhaps it's appreciated today - more than it was at the time.
0:30:38 > 0:30:41- A few good things came out of it.
0:30:41 > 0:30:45- We formed links - with people like Endaf and Geraint.
0:30:45 > 0:30:48- Bando, Jip and Eliffant - came out of it.
0:30:48 > 0:30:51- Edward H reformed for a while.
0:30:51 > 0:30:55- Following the disappointing - reaction to Injaroc...
0:30:55 > 0:30:59- ..Edward H reformed - before splitting again in 1983.
0:30:59 > 0:31:04- Dewi had a new project - in the pipeline, Mochyn 'Apus.
0:31:12 > 0:31:17- # Happy pig off his head every night
0:31:18 > 0:31:20- # He never feels pain #
0:31:21 > 0:31:24- I saw Mochyn 'Apus - at Llangefni Eisteddfod in 1983.
0:31:25 > 0:31:29- I can't understand - why they weren't popular.
0:31:29 > 0:31:33- People disapproved - of the non-Welsh band members.
0:31:33 > 0:31:35- The same old argument.
0:31:36 > 0:31:38- I thought they were very funny.
0:31:38 > 0:31:43- Pws displayed - the old Tebot Piws zaniness.
0:31:43 > 0:31:48- I wanted to do Mochyn 'Apus - in order to perform with Tich.
0:31:48 > 0:31:52- He was, and still is, my hero. - He was a bloke and a half.
0:31:53 > 0:31:56- There was also Dafydd Pierce.
0:31:56 > 0:32:01- And then Dyfed Thomas.
0:32:01 > 0:32:05- We did a gig with Yr Anhrefn, - who didn't like us.
0:32:06 > 0:32:10- They called us a TV band. - Rhys Mwyn frowned in the corner.
0:32:11 > 0:32:16- It made us worse - I painted a red - spot on my face and wore leathers.
0:32:17 > 0:32:20- We tried to out-punk the punks.
0:32:20 > 0:32:24- Dyfed Thomas had a great idea.
0:32:25 > 0:32:28- He'd come on as a pig.
0:32:30 > 0:32:32- He brought a pig's head from London.
0:32:33 > 0:32:36- He came on - pointing a torch at his face.
0:32:38 > 0:32:41- The pig's head was horrible, - but he couldn't see!
0:32:43 > 0:32:50- He pulled Tich and Jack's leads - until they almost came off stage.
0:32:50 > 0:32:54- Terrible. Spinal Tap, - rock and roll!
0:32:56 > 0:33:00- I only saw Mochyn 'Apus once, - and I really enjoyed them.
0:33:00 > 0:33:04- It's a pity they stopped performing.
0:33:05 > 0:33:09- After Y Tebot Piws, Emyr Huws Jones - took a different route.
0:33:10 > 0:33:13- I worked in Aberystwyth - after leaving college.
0:33:13 > 0:33:18- I became friends with Emyr Wyn - and the rest of Mynediad Am Ddim.
0:33:19 > 0:33:23- I was considering starting a band.
0:33:23 > 0:33:28- I asked Emyr whether he'd fancy - starting one. "I have," he said.
0:33:28 > 0:33:30- "Why don't you join us?"
0:33:30 > 0:33:34- I heard them sing - and thought they sounded good.
0:33:34 > 0:33:36- That's what I did.
0:33:37 > 0:33:42- # I'd like to play guitar - like Rory Gallagher
0:33:43 > 0:33:48- # Or write stories like Stan Lee #
0:33:49 > 0:33:55- I liked Mynediad Am Ddim's - witty songs.
0:33:56 > 0:33:58- They always made me laugh.
0:33:59 > 0:34:03- They always fooled around on stage.
0:34:04 > 0:34:09- They inherited that - from Y Tebot Piws.
0:34:10 > 0:34:13- # I'd like to be - as big as Robert Mitchum #
0:34:16 > 0:34:19- The spirit of Owain Glyndwr...
0:34:19 > 0:34:23- ..and Bob Tai'r Felin - are in their performances.
0:34:23 > 0:34:28- Their performances - echoed a traditional noson lawen.
0:34:29 > 0:34:33- They had the audience in the palm - of their hands from the word go.
0:34:34 > 0:34:38- Emyr Wyn's voice and personality - could do that.
0:34:39 > 0:34:44- It was a strange combination - of a violin, guitar and French horn.
0:34:45 > 0:34:48- We concentrated on the vocals.
0:34:50 > 0:34:56- We got together in the Marine - and the Skinners in Aberystwyth.
0:34:57 > 0:35:00- We sang student-like songs.
0:35:01 > 0:35:05- Everyone wanted to sing in a group.
0:35:13 > 0:35:18- # Of course - you can walk along my footpath
0:35:20 > 0:35:25- # You can go wherever - you want on my land #
0:35:26 > 0:35:31- Ems's major contribution - to the group was his songs.
0:35:31 > 0:35:35- They sang pop songs - that are now Welsh classics.
0:35:36 > 0:35:39- Ems brought along - four or five songs...
0:35:40 > 0:35:43- ..like Arica, Fi...
0:35:47 > 0:35:48- ..Padi...
0:35:49 > 0:35:52- ..and it was an eye-opener for us.
0:35:52 > 0:35:55- This was more serious.
0:35:56 > 0:35:59- The songs we wrote were OK.
0:36:00 > 0:36:03- But they had no shelf life.
0:36:04 > 0:36:07- Some are still played today, - and they're OK.
0:36:08 > 0:36:13- We all realized - how special Ems's songs were.
0:36:14 > 0:36:18- # This song was saved from the sea
0:36:21 > 0:36:24- # It was seen there, drowning
0:36:24 > 0:36:28- # By the lighthouse keeper #
0:36:29 > 0:36:34- It was Ems's most prolific time - as a composer.
0:36:35 > 0:36:41- His songs were gentle, - nostalgic and romantic.
0:36:42 > 0:36:45- They were part - of Mynediad Am Ddim's repertoire...
0:36:45 > 0:36:48- ..of fun songs and quieter numbers.
0:36:49 > 0:36:52- It made them a successful folk band.
0:36:58 > 0:37:01- My career has been very jammy.
0:37:02 > 0:37:05- I've been in the right place - at the right time.
0:37:06 > 0:37:10- I met Ems, Stan and Pws - at Cyncoed College.
0:37:11 > 0:37:15- I worked in Glansefin when Ac Eraill - were in college in Carmarthen.
0:37:16 > 0:37:22- I found myself in Aber - when Mynediad Am Ddim were students.
0:37:24 > 0:37:28- Emyr Wyn asked me whether I'd like - to do something with them.
0:37:29 > 0:37:34- They had the same motive - as Ac Eraill - my banjo!
0:37:39 > 0:37:42- The former Tebot members' reunion - didn't last long.
0:37:43 > 0:37:45- Once again, Ems had had enough.
0:37:45 > 0:37:49- It was easier to travel with - Mynediad when I was in Aberystwyth.
0:37:50 > 0:37:54- We were in the same place, - and going to the same concerts.
0:37:54 > 0:37:57- When Emyr and I moved to Cardiff...
0:37:57 > 0:38:00- ..things became more difficult.
0:38:00 > 0:38:02- I wasn't enjoying it as much.
0:38:03 > 0:38:08- We'd meet somewhere and sing, - then make our way home.
0:38:08 > 0:38:10- I found it sad.
0:38:10 > 0:38:13- I'd had enough - of performing by then.
0:38:14 > 0:38:19- I left at the end of the 1970s, - but I still wrote songs for them.
0:38:19 > 0:38:22- I didn't perform with them again.
0:38:24 > 0:38:27- When I was with Mynediad - in Aberystwyth...
0:38:27 > 0:38:31- ..we were gigging and travelling - every weekend.
0:38:33 > 0:38:37- Tecwyn Ifan - had started to sing on his own.
0:38:39 > 0:38:44- He asked me if I'd be interested - in accompanying him on the guitar.
0:38:44 > 0:38:48- I agreed.
0:38:50 > 0:38:55- # We'll go to the towns and cities
0:38:56 > 0:39:00- # It will be good - to meet the people #
0:39:03 > 0:39:08- Working with Tecs was different, - because his songs were so sad.
0:39:09 > 0:39:13- His songs had a message.
0:39:14 > 0:39:17- People liked to sit down - and listen to them.
0:39:17 > 0:39:19- It was a nice change...
0:39:19 > 0:39:23- ..after two years of living - the wild life with Mynediad.
0:39:23 > 0:39:26- # Sleeping under the trees
0:39:26 > 0:39:29- # And eating their fruit
0:39:30 > 0:39:32- # After the selling's over
0:39:33 > 0:39:36- # My gratitude I'll show #
0:39:36 > 0:39:41- Many of Tecwyn's songs - became anthems.
0:39:41 > 0:39:43- One of these was Y Dref Wen.
0:39:44 > 0:39:48- People were interested - in legends and history...
0:39:48 > 0:39:51- ..and heroes to sing about.
0:39:52 > 0:39:55- At the time...
0:39:56 > 0:40:00- ..people could identify - with Y Dref Wen...
0:40:00 > 0:40:03- ..as with many other similar songs.
0:40:03 > 0:40:07- It's not that it's a special song.
0:40:07 > 0:40:13- It conveyed something - that had happened in the past...
0:40:13 > 0:40:19- ..which people felt - was repeating itself.
0:40:20 > 0:40:23- # Returning home #
0:40:31 > 0:40:31- .
0:40:33 > 0:40:33- 888
0:40:33 > 0:40:35- 888- - 888
0:40:37 > 0:40:41- Y Tebot Piws's members - rarely performed after the 1980s.
0:40:42 > 0:40:45- Some composed - for leading Welsh artistes.
0:40:45 > 0:40:48- At the beginning - of the millennium...
0:40:48 > 0:40:52- ..they received an offer - they couldn't refuse.
0:40:53 > 0:40:58- Bryn Terfel invited us - to take part in the Faenol Festival.
0:40:58 > 0:41:01- I didn't want to do it.
0:41:02 > 0:41:05- I thought I'd be too nervous.
0:41:06 > 0:41:08- We were nervous.
0:41:08 > 0:41:13- Many years had passed - since we'd performed together.
0:41:13 > 0:41:18- We weren't worried - about the chemistry of the band.
0:41:18 > 0:41:21- In our subconscious...
0:41:21 > 0:41:25- ..we knew we still got on - and that we'd always get on.
0:41:26 > 0:41:28- The music worried us.
0:41:28 > 0:41:32- Things had moved on - over the years.
0:41:32 > 0:41:37- We didn't know - whether we could hack it musically.
0:41:38 > 0:41:41- They eventually persuaded me.
0:41:42 > 0:41:45- It was good and a lot of fun.
0:41:46 > 0:41:50- We had a professional band - behind us, for one thing!
0:41:50 > 0:41:53- We didn't have to worry too much.
0:41:53 > 0:41:57- # I'm going back - to Blaenau Ffestiniog
0:41:57 > 0:42:00- # Catching the first train - out of town #
0:42:00 > 0:42:04- In August 2002, Tebot Piws - reformed for one night only.
0:42:04 > 0:42:08- They performed - to more than 3,000 people.
0:42:08 > 0:42:12- The reaction was astounding.
0:42:12 > 0:42:16- I'll never forget it.
0:42:16 > 0:42:20- # A German man shouted, - "Where are you going?"
0:42:20 > 0:42:23- # This is what she shouted back
0:42:24 > 0:42:27- # I'm going back - to Blaenau Ffestiniog
0:42:27 > 0:42:31- # Catching the first train - out of town
0:42:32 > 0:42:35- # I'm going back - to Blaenau Ffestiniog
0:42:35 > 0:42:37- # Because it's my seventh heaven #
0:42:38 > 0:42:41- We thought it was a one-off, - and it was brilliant.
0:42:42 > 0:42:44- But we really enjoyed it.
0:42:44 > 0:42:47- We realized we were still friends.
0:42:48 > 0:42:50- We had a great time together.
0:42:51 > 0:42:57- People asked us - to perform here and there.
0:42:59 > 0:43:02- We were doing more and more, - and having fun.
0:43:02 > 0:43:08- # The laws of England and News - At Ten are close friends of ours
0:43:08 > 0:43:13- # They tell us what we should do, - they're Welsh through and through
0:43:16 > 0:43:18- # This little country of ours - has gone mad
0:43:19 > 0:43:22- # Black hatred, prison and fines
0:43:23 > 0:43:25- # Come with me - in the middle of the night
0:43:26 > 0:43:28- # We'll continue - to smash down the signs
0:43:30 > 0:43:32- # Well, yes, yes, yes, that's it
0:43:33 > 0:43:36- # Well, yes, yes, yes, that's it
0:43:36 > 0:43:39- # Well, yes, yes, that's it
0:43:39 > 0:43:42- # Well, yes, yes, yes, that's it #
0:43:43 > 0:43:46- Four years later, in 2008...
0:43:47 > 0:43:52- ..we were invited to sing in the - Cann Office Festival in mid Wales.
0:43:53 > 0:43:58- We had to hang around for six - or seven hours after a soundcheck.
0:43:59 > 0:44:02- During that time, Stan said...
0:44:02 > 0:44:09- .."we'll be celebrating - our 40th birthday next year."
0:44:09 > 0:44:14- We agreed to commemorate - this special occasion.
0:44:15 > 0:44:18- We decided to record an album.
0:44:18 > 0:44:22- The initial idea was to record - an EP of four songs.
0:44:23 > 0:44:25- I was prepared to write one song.
0:44:25 > 0:44:29- They kept asking for more - to fill the LP.
0:44:29 > 0:44:33- I had to use songs - I'd intended for other things!
0:44:34 > 0:44:38- But it was fun. We had a great time - recording in Bethesda.
0:44:38 > 0:44:42- Twll Du Ifan Saer - was Tebot Piws's first and last LP.
0:44:42 > 0:44:47- They were invited to sing at the - Cob's 200th birthday celebrations...
0:44:48 > 0:44:50- ..in Penrhyndeudraeth this year.
0:44:51 > 0:44:54- We had discussed - packing it in for months.
0:44:54 > 0:44:57- We received this invitation.
0:44:57 > 0:45:01- I wanted it to be our final concert - and they all agreed.
0:45:02 > 0:45:06- We're looking forward - to this final gig.
0:45:07 > 0:45:09- I reckon it'll be quite a night.
0:45:09 > 0:45:13- CHEERS
0:45:14 > 0:45:17- # The wooden lad
0:45:17 > 0:45:20- # Is sixty-four
0:45:20 > 0:45:24- # And he has caught - Dutch elm disease
0:45:26 > 0:45:28- # Fat Martha
0:45:28 > 0:45:31- # Is even fatter
0:45:32 > 0:45:36- # In fact, she is now obese #
0:45:38 > 0:45:42- Y Tebot Piws's influence was huge.
0:45:42 > 0:45:45- They were punk before punk.
0:45:45 > 0:45:49- They were anarchic, - they challenged the system.
0:45:49 > 0:45:52- The stories about them - are legendary.
0:45:52 > 0:45:57- It doesn't matter what Dewi did with - pigeon dirt on a Llangefni balcony.
0:45:58 > 0:46:01- It doesn't matter - that it isn't true.
0:46:01 > 0:46:03- People like to think it's true.
0:46:03 > 0:46:10- They inspired me - to try my hand at singing in Welsh.
0:46:11 > 0:46:16- Their contribution is remarkable.
0:46:17 > 0:46:20- They wrote lovely songs.
0:46:21 > 0:46:27- But with a composer like Ems, - you'd expect nothing less.
0:46:27 > 0:46:31- # Lleucu Llwyd has kicked the bucket
0:46:32 > 0:46:36- # And Blaenau is still - under the rock #
0:46:37 > 0:46:40- It's no mean feat - to compose a folk song.
0:46:41 > 0:46:43- A song that's accepted.
0:46:43 > 0:46:48- People think Lleucu Llwyd - is a Welsh folk song.
0:46:48 > 0:46:51- Dewi Pws of Y Tebot Piws wrote it.
0:46:51 > 0:46:56- If you remember the 1960s or 1970s, - they say you weren't there.
0:46:57 > 0:47:01- I remember, and I was there. - I'm glad I can remember.
0:47:01 > 0:47:05- I was around - these great individuals.
0:47:06 > 0:47:10- Alun Sbardun Huws, Stanley Morgan - Jones, Dewi Pws Morris...
0:47:11 > 0:47:13- ..and Emyr Huws Jones.
0:47:13 > 0:47:16- We're all old now.
0:47:16 > 0:47:18- I think I've lasted alright.
0:47:20 > 0:47:23- The last few years - with Y Tebot Piws...
0:47:24 > 0:47:28- ..has been a breath of fresh air - for me personally.
0:47:29 > 0:47:32- I'd listen out for the phone...
0:47:32 > 0:47:37- ..and got excited if Sbardun texted - because it might be a gig.
0:47:37 > 0:47:43- "Are you free?" "Yes," I'd reply, - never mind where the gig was.
0:47:45 > 0:47:48- We've had the chance - and we've had fun.
0:47:49 > 0:47:52- We'll still meet and have fun.
0:47:53 > 0:47:55- But we won't sing together again.
0:47:56 > 0:48:00- All good things come to an end.
0:48:01 > 0:48:07- # There are cracks in the teapot
0:48:07 > 0:48:12- # It's celebrating its 40th birthday
0:48:13 > 0:48:19- # But there are some who would say
0:48:19 > 0:48:24- # The crack was always there #
0:48:31 > 0:48:33- S4C Subtitles by Gwead
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