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0:00:01 > 0:00:04- When I'm writing - children's stories...
0:00:04 > 0:00:10- ..I might reach an exciting - and emotional part of the story...
0:00:10 > 0:00:14- ..and I cry, which is astounding.
0:00:14 > 0:00:16- It astounds me.
0:00:17 > 0:00:20- Few people - can write children's stories...
0:00:21 > 0:00:24- ..and inhabit - a child's world, but he could.
0:00:25 > 0:00:29- Children sometimes ask me - a difficult question.
0:00:29 > 0:00:33- "Is that a true story?"
0:00:33 > 0:00:35- I reply with the answer...
0:00:35 > 0:00:37- .."It's true to me."
0:00:38 > 0:00:41- It's an adventure story - and it's fun to read.
0:00:42 > 0:00:45- He was a Peter Pan figure. - He didn't age at all.
0:00:45 > 0:00:47- He was young at heart.
0:00:49 > 0:00:52- It's interesting and I enjoy it...
0:00:52 > 0:00:55- ..but I want to find out - who Sion Cwilt is.
0:00:56 > 0:00:58- FANFARE
0:01:02 > 0:01:06- Mr T Llew Jones of Cardiganshire.
0:01:06 > 0:01:11- He won two bardic chairs at the - National Eisteddfod with his odes.
0:01:12 > 0:01:15- The truth against the world.
0:01:15 > 0:01:17- Is there peace?
0:01:17 > 0:01:19- Peace!
0:01:20 > 0:01:24- What we have in both odes is - someone looking at a better place...
0:01:25 > 0:01:27- ..that's within our reach.
0:01:34 > 0:01:38- He was - a familiar storyteller and poet...
0:01:38 > 0:01:41- ..but for me, he was an enchanter.
0:01:41 > 0:01:46- He had the most remarkable ability - to pull the reader into his world.
0:01:47 > 0:01:49- And yes, he enchanted generations.
0:01:50 > 0:01:53- Everyone's familiar - with the name, T Llew Jones...
0:01:53 > 0:01:57- ..but how many really knew the man?
0:02:04 > 0:02:06- It's a place of beauty.
0:02:07 > 0:02:09- There's - no prettier place in Wales...
0:02:10 > 0:02:12- ..Europe or, indeed, the world.
0:02:12 > 0:02:17- You look out over Ynys Lochtyn - and the Carreg Bica standing stone.
0:02:17 > 0:02:20- We're sitting beside Saint Crannog.
0:02:20 > 0:02:23- I'm pleased - they erected this statue.
0:02:23 > 0:02:26- It's a symbol of - the area's civility and culture.
0:02:30 > 0:02:34- If you carry on over the bridge, - you'll come to Cwmtydu.
0:02:34 > 0:02:37- My mother's family, the Cilie, - hailed from there.
0:02:38 > 0:02:42- This is our locality, - this is the family's neighbourhood.
0:02:43 > 0:02:46- We lived - in a house further up the valley.
0:02:46 > 0:02:49- Thinking back...
0:02:49 > 0:02:55- ..I regard Mam as the archetypical - mother, who loved her children...
0:02:55 > 0:02:58- ..and looked after her husband - in every way.
0:02:58 > 0:03:01- She always supported him.
0:03:01 > 0:03:03- She wasn't a poet, then?
0:03:03 > 0:03:07- No. Her brother, Jac Alun, - was a poet, however...
0:03:07 > 0:03:10- ..along with other men - in the family.
0:03:10 > 0:03:15- Chauvinistically, men didn't believe - women could write poetry!
0:03:20 > 0:03:24- What did you mother call him? Tom?
0:03:24 > 0:03:28- Yes, she called him Tom. He was - Tom Llewelyn Jones to some people.
0:03:28 > 0:03:31- His full name - was Thomas Llewelyn Jones.
0:03:31 > 0:03:34- I can't relate to him as a Tom.
0:03:34 > 0:03:36- No, he was a Llew.
0:03:37 > 0:03:39- My father was a romantic.
0:03:39 > 0:03:42- He romanticised - the era of the smugglers.
0:03:42 > 0:03:44- Take Sion Cwilt, for instance.
0:03:44 > 0:03:48- He'd imagine the donkeys - coming down here with the caskets.
0:03:49 > 0:03:52- The boat would come into the bay...
0:03:53 > 0:03:56- ..and perhaps they'd - row out to meet the boat...
0:03:56 > 0:04:00- ..and bring the caskets back - and hide them in the caves.
0:04:00 > 0:04:02- It's all here.
0:04:04 > 0:04:09- Though the influence of one - of Wales' most beautiful areas...
0:04:09 > 0:04:12- ..features prominently - in T Llew Jones' work...
0:04:13 > 0:04:18- ..his talent for writing gripping - tales was undeniably in his genes.
0:04:18 > 0:04:22- Where did your talent - for narrating a story come from?
0:04:23 > 0:04:26- I was a child - and I was in an environment...
0:04:26 > 0:04:29- ..where people - would meet at our house.
0:04:29 > 0:04:33- Men would come and see my father - and they'd sit around the fire.
0:04:34 > 0:04:35- I'd listen to them talking.
0:04:36 > 0:04:39- Mam-gu would tell plenty of stories.
0:04:39 > 0:04:41- She'd tell tall tales - and ghost stories...
0:04:42 > 0:04:44- ..and recount her own experiences...
0:04:45 > 0:04:47- ..of fishing for salmon - without a licence.
0:04:48 > 0:04:52- I think all those things - moulded my character.
0:04:52 > 0:04:55- I was no good at mathematics.
0:04:55 > 0:05:00- I couldn't sing - or draw pictures but I could write.
0:05:02 > 0:05:06- My English teacher - would often praise me...
0:05:06 > 0:05:09- ..if I wrote a story or whatever.
0:05:09 > 0:05:11- Miss Pearce became ill, you see.
0:05:11 > 0:05:16- There was a character in school - back then called Mr Sweet...
0:05:16 > 0:05:18- ..who we used to call Dai Losin.
0:05:19 > 0:05:23- He'd fought in the war and he - would lose his temper very quickly.
0:05:25 > 0:05:29- He'd taken over from Miss Pearce, - the English teacher.
0:05:29 > 0:05:34- I'd written a story - and sent it in to be marked.
0:05:34 > 0:05:39- When Dai Losin came into class - with the papers under his arm...
0:05:40 > 0:05:44- ..he beckoned me over - with his finger like that.
0:05:44 > 0:05:49- He said to me, "Who wrote this?"
0:05:49 > 0:05:52- I said, "I did," - and he gave me a slap.
0:05:53 > 0:05:55- That's completely true.
0:05:55 > 0:05:58- He didn't believe - that I'd written it, you see.
0:06:01 > 0:06:03- He admits he didn't try very hard...
0:06:03 > 0:06:08- ..during his unhappy school days - at Llandysul Grammar.
0:06:10 > 0:06:12- His father died, and as a result...
0:06:12 > 0:06:15- ..he had to support the family.
0:06:15 > 0:06:19- He became a roadside worker - as well as a clerk and a woodcutter.
0:06:19 > 0:06:22- I can say - I'm a great woodcutter to this day.
0:06:22 > 0:06:26- I can make a tree fall - in the exact spot I want it to fall.
0:06:26 > 0:06:31- A few years later, by which time - he'd married Margaret...
0:06:31 > 0:06:33- ..he had to leave home...
0:06:33 > 0:06:38- ..and join the RAF in Egypt, - and then Italy.
0:06:38 > 0:06:42- During the war, he spent - a long time away from home.
0:06:42 > 0:06:45- He was a stranger to me - in the beginning.
0:06:45 > 0:06:50- Unfortunately, he had to go away - again to train as a teacher.
0:06:50 > 0:06:52- He spent a year away...
0:06:52 > 0:06:55- ..which prolonged the period...
0:06:55 > 0:06:57- ..we were apart.
0:06:57 > 0:07:02- To tell you the truth, I think - it affected our relationship.
0:07:02 > 0:07:06- He hadn't been with me - during my early childhood.
0:07:06 > 0:07:11- I can't remember him ever sitting - down and teaching me anything...
0:07:11 > 0:07:15- ..or asking me about school - - he didn't even teach me cynghanedd.
0:07:16 > 0:07:21- I was into mischief and riding my - bike. I was never indoors, studying.
0:07:22 > 0:07:25- We have to remember...
0:07:25 > 0:07:28- ..that in terms of his creativity...
0:07:28 > 0:07:32- ..work always had to come first.
0:07:32 > 0:07:34- He had to write his novels in peace.
0:07:35 > 0:07:39- If the muse took him, - he had to write straightaway.
0:07:39 > 0:07:44- It's difficult to have a normal life - like everyone else...
0:07:44 > 0:07:47- ..because you're a slave - to the muse.
0:07:47 > 0:07:49- If the muse calls you, - you have to obey.
0:07:55 > 0:07:58- I enjoy the idea - of being a professional writer...
0:07:59 > 0:08:02- ..despite only doing it - for three months.
0:08:02 > 0:08:06- I'd love to be a professional writer - for the rest of my life...
0:08:06 > 0:08:09- ..because I feel...
0:08:09 > 0:08:12- ..that's the only way...
0:08:12 > 0:08:14- ..to write.
0:08:14 > 0:08:17- An author must have leisure time...
0:08:17 > 0:08:21- ..with nothing - interrupting his thoughts.
0:08:23 > 0:08:27- I treasure the memory I have of him - as a creative person.
0:08:28 > 0:08:32- I didn't expect him to sit down - with me. I had other things to do.
0:08:32 > 0:08:34- I was playing football or rugby.
0:08:35 > 0:08:38- I didn't want to be indoors, - talking about poetry!
0:08:38 > 0:08:40- When Emyr was six years old...
0:08:41 > 0:08:44- ..his brother Iolo was born.
0:08:44 > 0:08:48- Pontgarreg is - a stone's throw from Llangrannog.
0:08:48 > 0:08:52- It's here that T Llew - spent the last 35 years of his life.
0:08:55 > 0:08:57- Iolo still lives here.
0:08:58 > 0:09:02- Hello, Beti. - How are you? Come inside.
0:09:05 > 0:09:08- I'm quite familiar - with this living room, Iolo...
0:09:08 > 0:09:12- ..because I came here many times - to interview your father.
0:09:13 > 0:09:15- I always received a warm welcome.
0:09:17 > 0:09:19- How many chairs are in here?
0:09:19 > 0:09:20- Three chairs.
0:09:21 > 0:09:23- Yes, there are three in this room.
0:09:23 > 0:09:29- This is the second chair he won - at the 1959 Caernarfon Eisteddfod.
0:09:29 > 0:09:31- The other, over there, - he won in 1958.
0:09:32 > 0:09:34- That was his first National.
0:09:35 > 0:09:38- Tell me about that cartoon, Iolo. - Who drew that?
0:09:38 > 0:09:40- Gerallt Lloyd Owen.
0:09:40 > 0:09:44- Few people know - that he's an accomplished artist.
0:09:45 > 0:09:49- My father - is on the bottom left-hand side.
0:09:50 > 0:09:54- Euros Bowen is on the right-hand - side, and Alan Llwyd.
0:09:55 > 0:09:57- Dic Jones - is up there on the tractor.
0:09:57 > 0:10:00- What are all these cups, Iolo?
0:10:01 > 0:10:04- I've won a few trophies - here and there for playing chess.
0:10:05 > 0:10:08- I've a small gold medal down here.
0:10:08 > 0:10:11- Is it real gold?
0:10:11 > 0:10:13- Yes, so they say.
0:10:14 > 0:10:16- What did you win this for?
0:10:16 > 0:10:18- "Olympiad Novi Sad."
0:10:21 > 0:10:25- Only two players from Wales have - ever won a gold medal for chess.
0:10:25 > 0:10:27- I happen to be one of them.
0:10:27 > 0:10:29- I happen to be one of them.- - Who's the other then?
0:10:29 > 0:10:33- Leighton Williams, - a man from Abercynon.
0:10:33 > 0:10:37- In here is the study, - as my father used to call it.
0:10:38 > 0:10:40- He'd write all his books in here.
0:10:40 > 0:10:45- If only these four walls could talk.
0:10:45 > 0:10:48- If only, indeed.
0:10:51 > 0:10:54- He was more productive - in the mornings.
0:10:54 > 0:10:58- He felt his mind - worked better in the morning.
0:10:58 > 0:11:00- That's when he was most creative.
0:11:00 > 0:11:02- You wouldn't want to disturb him?
0:11:02 > 0:11:03- You wouldn't want to disturb him?- - No, not at all.
0:11:06 > 0:11:09- I typed everything - on an old typewriter...
0:11:09 > 0:11:11- ..with two fingers.
0:11:11 > 0:11:14- I only used - two fingers whilst typing...
0:11:14 > 0:11:16- ..but I was fast.
0:11:16 > 0:11:23- His novels and colourful characters - still excite children of all ages.
0:11:23 > 0:11:26- Figures like Sion Cwilt - in Dirgelwch Yr Ogof...
0:11:26 > 0:11:29- ..Harri Morgan - in Trysor Y Mor-ladron...
0:11:29 > 0:11:31- ..and Tim Boswell in Tan Ar Y Comin.
0:11:34 > 0:11:40- When I look back, I'm surprised - I've written so much...
0:11:40 > 0:11:44- ..but it came very easily to me - at the time.
0:11:44 > 0:11:47- He was also a children's poet.
0:11:48 > 0:11:51- The product - of his furtive imagination...
0:11:51 > 0:11:52- ..is part of our literary heritage.
0:11:52 > 0:11:55- ..is part of our literary heritage.- - Traeth Y Pigyn is one example.
0:11:59 > 0:12:01- "It's sunny on Traeth Y Pigyn
0:12:01 > 0:12:03- "Where the sea casts up its foam
0:12:03 > 0:12:05- "Where the breeze - whistles in the rocks
0:12:05 > 0:12:07- "Where the sun glistens on the waves
0:12:07 > 0:12:12- "Come with me to Traeth Y Pigyn - for a happy holiday
0:12:12 > 0:12:16- "Won't you come with me? - Won't you come with me? Won't you?"
0:12:20 > 0:12:23- Your mother - was very protective of him.
0:12:23 > 0:12:28- I remember coming here. She was - the one who did all the cooking.
0:12:28 > 0:12:31- But she lost her sight - later in life, didn't she?
0:12:32 > 0:12:36- Yes, she had glaucoma. She gradually - lost her sight over the years.
0:12:36 > 0:12:39- In the end, - it was he who looked after her.
0:12:39 > 0:12:42- I remember him having to cook.
0:12:42 > 0:12:45- He had to do - most of the cooking after that.
0:12:46 > 0:12:50- T Llew was one of - a small group of people...
0:12:50 > 0:12:55- ..who fought to establish - an independent chess union in Wales.
0:12:55 > 0:12:59- It's no wonder that Iolo, who's - an international chess champion...
0:12:59 > 0:13:02- ..had honed his skills - with his father.
0:13:02 > 0:13:05- They wrote - a Welsh-language chess handbook.
0:13:06 > 0:13:08- He acquired a chess set...
0:13:09 > 0:13:12- ..from one of the soldiers - when the war ended.
0:13:12 > 0:13:16- We bought a book - in an attempt to improve our game.
0:13:16 > 0:13:20- The book was fittingly called - The Right Way To Play Chess.
0:13:24 > 0:13:28- But another game - took his fancy when he was young.
0:13:28 > 0:13:31- Some people call it chess on grass.
0:13:31 > 0:13:33- He loved cricket, didn't he?
0:13:34 > 0:13:36- Yes, indeed.
0:13:36 > 0:13:40- My father was given this - as a gift for his 90th birthday.
0:13:40 > 0:13:43- It's been signed...
0:13:43 > 0:13:47- ..by local poets as well as - Wales' most renowned poets.
0:13:47 > 0:13:50- Tudur Dylan Jones, Mererid Hopwood.
0:13:50 > 0:13:56- There's also an englyn here - written by local poet DT Lewis...
0:13:56 > 0:13:59- ..who's since passed away.
0:13:59 > 0:14:02- "Wisden doesn't testify
0:14:02 > 0:14:04- "To the memory - of the Pentrecwrt poet
0:14:04 > 0:14:06- "But despite that, he in turn
0:14:06 > 0:14:09- "Will once again reach - 100 not out."
0:14:09 > 0:14:13- Each milestone was celebrated.
0:14:13 > 0:14:16- People held parties in his honour...
0:14:16 > 0:14:19- ..to celebrate - his 60th, 70th, 80th...
0:14:19 > 0:14:21- ..and 90th birthdays.
0:14:22 > 0:14:26- Every year he'd say, - "I won't be with you next year."
0:14:29 > 0:14:31- We had some fun with that comment.
0:14:31 > 0:14:33- But he was serious.
0:14:34 > 0:14:38- It bothered him. - He thought about death.
0:14:38 > 0:14:43- There was always a black cloud - hovering above his head.
0:14:44 > 0:14:48- He tended to be - one of life's pessimists.
0:14:48 > 0:14:51- He thought too deeply about things.
0:14:51 > 0:14:54- He thought about death - and the end of things.
0:14:54 > 0:14:57- He dwelled on the negative - too often.
0:14:57 > 0:15:00- He wasn't - an optimistic poet like Waldo.
0:15:00 > 0:15:04- He regarded the grave - as the end of the journey.
0:15:06 > 0:15:10- You wrote three englynion - after his death...
0:15:10 > 0:15:15- ..and Idris Reynolds says your - father would've been overjoyed...
0:15:15 > 0:15:17- ..with what you'd written.
0:15:17 > 0:15:19- The first englyn is the best.
0:15:19 > 0:15:22- "My father's in a better place now
0:15:22 > 0:15:25- "Out of pain and perpetual grumbling
0:15:25 > 0:15:29- "I'll never see his head again - above his small typewriter."
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0:15:37 > 0:15:37- Subtitles
0:15:37 > 0:15:39- Subtitles- - Subtitles
0:15:51 > 0:15:54- This is where - I went to primary school...
0:15:54 > 0:15:56- ..many years ago.
0:15:57 > 0:15:58- It's altered.
0:15:59 > 0:16:02- I started at two and a half because - my mother was a school cook...
0:16:03 > 0:16:04- ..so she had to bring me.
0:16:05 > 0:16:09- I'd left by the time - T Llew started here as headmaster.
0:16:11 > 0:16:14- But I came here...
0:16:14 > 0:16:19- ..a fortnight before going to - college to do teachers' training.
0:16:19 > 0:16:22- Looking through this window...
0:16:23 > 0:16:26- ..I can see his chair, - where he would sit.
0:16:28 > 0:16:31- Memories come flooding back, - I must admit.
0:16:32 > 0:16:37- He could always transport you - to fantastical worlds.
0:16:37 > 0:16:39- As a teacher too.
0:16:40 > 0:16:43- I'm sure there are children - who could testify...
0:16:44 > 0:16:46- ..to his remarkable teaching skills.
0:16:48 > 0:16:51- I wouldn't have passed - the eleven-plus...
0:16:52 > 0:16:54- ..at any other school.
0:16:54 > 0:16:56- T Llew could teach a pig to fly.
0:16:56 > 0:16:59- If he put his mind to it, - he could teach a pig to fly.
0:17:00 > 0:17:02- There's no two ways about it.
0:17:02 > 0:17:04- There's no two ways about it.- - My first memory of T Llew...
0:17:04 > 0:17:07- ..was when he became - the school's headmaster.
0:17:08 > 0:17:11- Before that, the school - was full of women and no men.
0:17:11 > 0:17:15- When Llew came, - I think it was his voice...
0:17:15 > 0:17:18- ..which scared me - and I refused to come to school.
0:17:19 > 0:17:23- Llew was very upset about that, - so he came to the house...
0:17:23 > 0:17:25- ..to talk to me, he called me Dil.
0:17:26 > 0:17:30- He said, "What's wrong, Dil? - Why won't you come to school?"
0:17:30 > 0:17:32- He eventually won me over.
0:17:32 > 0:17:38- I think it was a man's voice, - a powerful voice, that scared me.
0:17:39 > 0:17:41- What a wimp!
0:17:43 > 0:17:45- What's your memory of him, Pat?
0:17:45 > 0:17:49- I think he changed - the atmosphere of the school.
0:17:50 > 0:17:53- It was very relaxed - and it was a happy place to come.
0:17:54 > 0:17:57- We felt we had more freedom, - especially at play time.
0:17:58 > 0:18:02- We could go to the garden, in - and out of the trees, the field...
0:18:02 > 0:18:04- ..even on the wall.
0:18:04 > 0:18:09- We had the freedom to build dens - or whatever we wanted to do.
0:18:09 > 0:18:12- He encouraged us - to use our imagination.
0:18:13 > 0:18:18- Neil, - you came here from Shropshire...
0:18:18 > 0:18:22- ..so you couldn't speak - a word of Welsh when you got here.
0:18:23 > 0:18:25- Llew was clever...
0:18:25 > 0:18:28- ..because - he taught us Welsh we could use.
0:18:28 > 0:18:32- It's all well and good teaching you - a fantastic language...
0:18:33 > 0:18:36- ..but if you can't use it, - what's the point?
0:18:38 > 0:18:41- Virginia, - you came from Birmingham...
0:18:41 > 0:18:43- ..without a word of Welsh.
0:18:43 > 0:18:47- Without a word of Welsh. I felt - like I'd landed on another planet.
0:18:48 > 0:18:51- Everyone speaking - a different language.
0:18:51 > 0:18:53- T Llew was very supportive.
0:18:54 > 0:18:58- He recognised that it was - going to be difficult for me.
0:18:58 > 0:19:03- He did his best to be so supportive - in helping me with the language...
0:19:03 > 0:19:07- ..to understand not only the culture - but to give me a tool...
0:19:07 > 0:19:11- ..to be a part of the community - and the village life.
0:19:11 > 0:19:15- Without the language, you're lost. - You need that to be part of things.
0:19:16 > 0:19:20- And he followed my school career - long after I'd left Coedybryn.
0:19:20 > 0:19:23- And you have a letter here from him.
0:19:23 > 0:19:29- I do. Yes. - It's 1963, so I would've been 14.
0:19:29 > 0:19:34- And he'd spotted something I'd - written in the school magazine...
0:19:34 > 0:19:38- ..and wrote me a letter - to say how much he'd enjoyed it.
0:19:38 > 0:19:40- I'll just read a little bit.
0:19:40 > 0:19:45- "Dear Virginia, I've just been - reading your very lovely poem.
0:19:46 > 0:19:48- "It gave me very great pleasure...
0:19:48 > 0:19:51- "..not only because - it was the work of an old pupil...
0:19:52 > 0:19:55- "..but also because it is - a really fine piece of poetry.
0:19:56 > 0:19:59- "It gave me so much enjoyment - that I would like you to accept...
0:20:00 > 0:20:03- "..this little book of verses - by RL Stevenson."
0:20:03 > 0:20:06- You can't ask for more - from a teacher...
0:20:07 > 0:20:11- ..that they follow what you do - and acknowledge it like that.
0:20:11 > 0:20:14- You liked writing poems yourself.
0:20:15 > 0:20:19- I did, and presumably, that came - maybe out of him writing them...
0:20:19 > 0:20:22- ..and him encouraging me to do so.
0:20:22 > 0:20:28- What about his books? - Trysor Plas Y Wernen was his first.
0:20:28 > 0:20:32- I remember seeing the novels - on typewriting paper...
0:20:32 > 0:20:36- ..which resembled a script - more than a book.
0:20:36 > 0:20:39- He'd read them to us - and we'd read them ourselves.
0:20:42 > 0:20:47- I could write a chapter - and then try it out on the children.
0:20:47 > 0:20:50- If it worked, it was alright.
0:20:50 > 0:20:54- If it didn't, - it was back to the drawing board.
0:20:57 > 0:21:00- With Y Merlyn Du...
0:21:00 > 0:21:03- ..we had the chance - to name the characters.
0:21:03 > 0:21:08- They didn't look like books. - I didn't know what they were.
0:21:08 > 0:21:10- It was just typing paper.
0:21:10 > 0:21:13- Later on, of course, - they became books.
0:21:13 > 0:21:16- We saw them - before they went to print.
0:21:18 > 0:21:22- He made everything a story. - He was a storyteller.
0:21:22 > 0:21:24- He had an enchanting voice.
0:21:24 > 0:21:29- As a little girl, - I just listened to his voice...
0:21:29 > 0:21:31- ..because it was so special.
0:21:31 > 0:21:36- Did you have to use the cane - at all as a teacher, Llew?
0:21:38 > 0:21:44- No, hand on heart, I can honestly - say I never used the cane...
0:21:44 > 0:21:48- ..though I used other punishment.
0:21:48 > 0:21:52- I used to give a little smack - now and again.
0:21:52 > 0:21:57- He was a disciplinarian in class. - You knew how far to go.
0:21:57 > 0:22:00- I was an awful giggler.
0:22:00 > 0:22:03- We'd make shapes at each other - behind the desk...
0:22:03 > 0:22:06- ..then put it down - and be good girls.
0:22:06 > 0:22:11- We knew that no meant no - and that was the end of it.
0:22:11 > 0:22:13- There was no questioning.
0:22:13 > 0:22:16- When I went to Ysgol Coedybryn...
0:22:16 > 0:22:20- ..I found six canes - in a small packet.
0:22:21 > 0:22:25- You could order them in those days - from a company called EJ Arnold.
0:22:25 > 0:22:30- They were listed in a catalogue - as punishment canes.
0:22:30 > 0:22:32- But I never used them.
0:22:32 > 0:22:36- I pulled one out one time - and placed it on the desk...
0:22:36 > 0:22:40- ..for a boy - who'd misbehaved more than usual...
0:22:40 > 0:22:42- ..but I didn't use it.
0:22:43 > 0:22:45- What about the boys?
0:22:46 > 0:22:48- Did he discipline them?
0:22:48 > 0:22:50- There's one thing I remember.
0:22:50 > 0:22:55- Us boys would get - a couple of slaps if we misbehaved.
0:22:55 > 0:22:57- Where did he slap you?
0:22:57 > 0:23:00- On the ear. He didn't mess about.
0:23:00 > 0:23:03- But fair play to him...
0:23:03 > 0:23:07- ..it deterred you - from being naughty again.
0:23:07 > 0:23:09- How many did he give you?
0:23:09 > 0:23:11- I've lost count!
0:23:14 > 0:23:16- What angered him, then?
0:23:16 > 0:23:20- Pupils not trying their best.
0:23:21 > 0:23:24- Someone making the same mistake - over and over again.
0:23:25 > 0:23:28- He realised potential - in all children.
0:23:28 > 0:23:31- He wanted them - to reach their full potential.
0:23:32 > 0:23:36- Now I appreciate - the opportunities we were given.
0:23:36 > 0:23:39- Would you - choose to be a teacher nowadays?
0:23:39 > 0:23:41- Yes, I'd go back to that job...
0:23:42 > 0:23:45- ..in terms of teaching children - and being with them.
0:23:45 > 0:23:48- That's the kind work I do best.
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0:23:58 > 0:24:01- Ysgol Mynydd Bychan in Cardiff...
0:24:02 > 0:24:05- ..celebrates T Llew Jones Day.
0:24:05 > 0:24:10- It's an occasion which happens every - year in schools throughout Wales.
0:24:10 > 0:24:15- A day to honour the king - Wales' - king of children's literature.
0:24:15 > 0:24:18- Children's reactions - are important to me.
0:24:18 > 0:24:22- When I read them a story, - if I get their full attention...
0:24:22 > 0:24:25- ..I know the story's a success.
0:24:26 > 0:24:31- When they look at you with wide - eyes, you know you've won them over.
0:24:31 > 0:24:35- "They heard - the cottage door opening...
0:24:35 > 0:24:39- "..and in the lamplight, they saw - a thin man coming into view.
0:24:39 > 0:24:42- "He was barefoot - and dressed in his nightshirt.
0:24:43 > 0:24:45- "He was holding a lantern."
0:24:47 > 0:24:49- They live in a world of rainbows.
0:24:49 > 0:24:52- There's adventure, something to do.
0:24:52 > 0:24:57- There's an enemy to conquer, - pirates to punish...
0:24:57 > 0:25:01- ..and there's galloping - into the distance on horseback.
0:25:01 > 0:25:04- He liked inhabiting that world.
0:25:04 > 0:25:07- T Llew Jones' work - hasn't dated at all then?
0:25:07 > 0:25:13- Definitely not. It still delights - and sparks children's imagination.
0:25:15 > 0:25:18- It's possible to use the work...
0:25:18 > 0:25:20- ..in a contemporary way.
0:25:20 > 0:25:23- Year 6 have been - creating ebooks on the iPads...
0:25:24 > 0:25:27- ..and factual books - about T Llew Jones.
0:25:30 > 0:25:35- The older children are reading about - the smugglers in Dirgelwch Yr Ogof.
0:25:36 > 0:25:39- The big question is, - who's Sion Cwilt?
0:25:39 > 0:25:41- How many of you know?
0:25:41 > 0:25:43- Is it a good novel?
0:25:43 > 0:25:44- Is it a good novel?- - Yes.
0:25:44 > 0:25:48- Have you enjoyed it? What - did you think at the beginning?
0:25:49 > 0:25:51- When I got to chapter five...
0:25:51 > 0:25:55- ..Sion Cwilt - started to come in to the story.
0:25:55 > 0:25:58- Everybody wants to know - about Sion Cwilt.
0:25:58 > 0:26:02- I was staying up until midnight - to read the story.
0:26:03 > 0:26:07- It started to get exciting by the - time you reached chapter five.
0:26:07 > 0:26:10- I've finished the book now.
0:26:10 > 0:26:14- Ohh! So you know who Sion Cwilt is?
0:26:14 > 0:26:16- Yes.
0:26:17 > 0:26:22- How difficult - is teaching T Llew Jones' work...
0:26:22 > 0:26:28- ..to children from - non-Welsh-speaking backgrounds?
0:26:28 > 0:26:31- It can be quite a challenge.
0:26:31 > 0:26:35- As they read more of the book, - they've developed strategies...
0:26:36 > 0:26:39- ..whereby if they - don't understand a word...
0:26:39 > 0:26:45- ..they can understand its meaning - in the context of the sentence.
0:26:45 > 0:26:47- I think it's very exciting...
0:26:48 > 0:26:51- ..but some of the words - are difficult.
0:26:51 > 0:26:55- You must be learning new words.
0:26:55 > 0:26:58- Each time I read it, - I remember the words...
0:26:58 > 0:27:01- ..because they come up often.
0:27:01 > 0:27:05- When they write, they use - the vocabulary in their work.
0:27:06 > 0:27:08- Words like 'llarpiodd'...
0:27:08 > 0:27:11- ..after reading Stori O India.
0:27:11 > 0:27:13- Children use them naturally.
0:27:13 > 0:27:18- Llarpiodd (devoured), - rhwygodd (tore), anelodd (aimed).
0:27:19 > 0:27:21- They use those words.
0:27:21 > 0:27:23- They use those words.- - My Caravan.
0:27:24 > 0:27:29- They often refer to him as - the king of children's literature.
0:27:30 > 0:27:35- "If I had a horse and caravan
0:27:35 > 0:27:39- "I'd travel to countless places
0:27:40 > 0:27:43- "This way and that way
0:27:43 > 0:27:46- "Up and down
0:27:46 > 0:27:51- "On small roads and main roads."
0:27:51 > 0:27:54- Tan Ar Y Comin - is one of his most famous novels...
0:27:54 > 0:27:59- ..a story about gypsies, who were - part of T Llew Jones' upbringing.
0:27:59 > 0:28:02- The story - revolves around Tim Boswell...
0:28:03 > 0:28:06- ..who's searching for his father...
0:28:06 > 0:28:11- ..and eventually finds the answer - to the question, "Who am I?"
0:28:13 > 0:28:19- "I'd journey over mountain and heath
0:28:19 > 0:28:23- "In my caravan until nightfall."
0:28:25 > 0:28:28- The novel was turned into a film...
0:28:29 > 0:28:31- ..and sold all over the world.
0:28:31 > 0:28:36- The film's producer was Carol Byrne - Jones, who got to know T Llew well.
0:28:36 > 0:28:41- The central question in many - of T Llew's books is, who am I?
0:28:41 > 0:28:46- This issue comes to the fore - in Tan Ar Y Comin...
0:28:46 > 0:28:49- ..by Tim physically searching - for his father...
0:28:50 > 0:28:54- ..and putting pressure on Alf - to tell him who his father is.
0:28:55 > 0:28:57- Tell me who my father is.
0:28:57 > 0:29:00- I have to know something about him.
0:29:00 > 0:29:04- You don't need to know about him - or his sort.
0:29:09 > 0:29:12- I couldn't think of - filming it anywhere but here...
0:29:13 > 0:29:15- ..in Llew's country.
0:29:15 > 0:29:19- We went to Pentrecwrt - and he showed me the site...
0:29:19 > 0:29:22- ..where the gypsies would've lived.
0:29:22 > 0:29:25- He told me his mother was angry.
0:29:25 > 0:29:30- She knew when he'd been playing with - the gypsies because he'd scratch.
0:29:30 > 0:29:32- He looked like a wizard...
0:29:33 > 0:29:36- ..with that white hair - and blue eyes.
0:29:36 > 0:29:40- He'd lean forward and do that.
0:29:40 > 0:29:42- He was fantastic.
0:29:44 > 0:29:49- I don't know how he did it - but he enchanted people.
0:29:49 > 0:29:51- He was a storyteller.
0:29:52 > 0:29:56- That's precisely what he was.
0:29:57 > 0:30:01- When you write, - I believe it comes from two places.
0:30:01 > 0:30:04- It can come from here and here.
0:30:04 > 0:30:06- It's best when it comes from here.
0:30:07 > 0:30:09- FANFARE
0:30:10 > 0:30:13- Yes, he was - a formidable storyteller...
0:30:14 > 0:30:16- ..but he was also a talented poet.
0:30:16 > 0:30:18- He was Chief Poet twice.
0:30:19 > 0:30:22- The Ebbw Vale National Eisteddfod.
0:30:22 > 0:30:24- By 1958...
0:30:25 > 0:30:28- ..I felt ready - to enter the National Eisteddfod.
0:30:29 > 0:30:31- I went for it and won...
0:30:31 > 0:30:34- ..on the subject Caerllion-ar-Wysg.
0:30:34 > 0:30:39- I'm sure when his name is announced - that he'll be familiar to you all.
0:30:39 > 0:30:42- Caerllion-ar-Wysg - is a political ode...
0:30:43 > 0:30:45- ..where a grandfather - in Roman times...
0:30:46 > 0:30:49- ..frets over the future - of his language and culture...
0:30:49 > 0:30:51- ..in the face of the Roman Empire.
0:30:52 > 0:30:54- It rung true - with the Wales of the 1950s...
0:30:55 > 0:30:57- ..and is still relevant to us today.
0:30:57 > 0:31:02- Shout above responding shout, - is there peace?
0:31:03 > 0:31:04- Peace!
0:31:05 > 0:31:07- Heart to heart...
0:31:07 > 0:31:10- ..is there peace?
0:31:10 > 0:31:11- Peace!
0:31:12 > 0:31:16- Following his upbringing - in Pentrecwrt near Llandysul...
0:31:16 > 0:31:20- ..he moved to an area - with a rich bardic tradition.
0:31:20 > 0:31:22- To hone his talent as a poet...
0:31:22 > 0:31:26- ..he frequented a convenient - and unique meeting place.
0:31:26 > 0:31:31- I socialized with Bois y Cilie, - Dic Jones and the others.
0:31:31 > 0:31:33- I was part of that gang...
0:31:34 > 0:31:37- ..who met at the Pentre Arms - on a Saturday night...
0:31:38 > 0:31:40- ..to discuss poetry.
0:31:40 > 0:31:42- It was a happy time in my life.
0:31:42 > 0:31:45- They were the secret society.
0:31:45 > 0:31:48- Alun, Jac Alun, Dic.
0:31:49 > 0:31:52- Not everyone - was allowed into the room.
0:31:52 > 0:31:57- That's where the discussing, the - storytelling and composing went on.
0:31:57 > 0:32:02- They'd make up unsavoury poems - that they'd never recite publicly.
0:32:02 > 0:32:08- I remember leaving Coedybryn - and staying with Mam-gu.
0:32:08 > 0:32:12- Iolo, myself and Mam - would be left at Mam-gu's house...
0:32:13 > 0:32:16- ..while my father - went to the Pentre Arms.
0:32:16 > 0:32:18- I imagine it was quite late...
0:32:18 > 0:32:22- ..when the chauffeur - came to pick us up on our way home.
0:32:28 > 0:32:30- We're in the Pentre Arms.
0:32:31 > 0:32:35- This is where they'd meet in - the back room, as they called it.
0:32:35 > 0:32:38- Yes, it was something like that.
0:32:38 > 0:32:41- I'd have loved - to have been a fly on the wall.
0:32:41 > 0:32:46- They honed their skills. They could - compose cynghanedd in their sleep!
0:32:46 > 0:32:48- I got to know him as an old man.
0:32:49 > 0:32:52- Maybe the last 12 years of his life.
0:32:52 > 0:32:54- I remember meeting him.
0:32:54 > 0:32:58- We joked that Tudur Dylan - would introduce me...
0:32:58 > 0:33:01- ..to my bardic great-grandfather...
0:33:01 > 0:33:05- ..because T Llew had taught - John Gwilym to compose Cynghanedd.
0:33:05 > 0:33:08- John Gwilym taught Dylan, - Dylan taught me.
0:33:08 > 0:33:10- I received a warm welcome from him.
0:33:11 > 0:33:13- His eyes were gleaming.
0:33:13 > 0:33:16- Everything about him - drew you to him like a magnet.
0:33:17 > 0:33:20- I remember sitting there, - wanting to pinch myself...
0:33:21 > 0:33:23- ..that I was - now able to touch this man.
0:33:23 > 0:33:27- I went to visit him once - with my son Llew...
0:33:27 > 0:33:31- ..who was four or five years old - at the time.
0:33:31 > 0:33:36- Llewelyn - was wearing a Barti Ddu hoodie.
0:33:36 > 0:33:38- T Llew was impressed by the hoodie.
0:33:39 > 0:33:41- I decided it was time to go.
0:33:41 > 0:33:45- I didn't want to keep an old man - longer than I needed to.
0:33:45 > 0:33:49- We went outside to the car and - Llew said, "We have to go back."
0:33:49 > 0:33:52- I said, "No, we're not going back."
0:33:52 > 0:33:55- "We have to - because we don't know his size."
0:33:55 > 0:33:59- Llew wanted to buy a hoodie - for T Llew.
0:33:59 > 0:34:03- I thought there was something - almost proverbial about that.
0:34:04 > 0:34:06- What size is T Llew?
0:34:06 > 0:34:08- Out of the mouths of babes!
0:34:09 > 0:34:13- We had to buy him the top - and sent it to him by post.
0:34:13 > 0:34:17- T Llew wasn't far off - 90 years old at the time...
0:34:17 > 0:34:21- ..and he sent Llew a note - to thank him for the present.
0:34:22 > 0:34:23- What a treasure!
0:34:24 > 0:34:26- "I was given a present by Llewelyn
0:34:26 > 0:34:29- "A good old Barti Ddu top
0:34:29 > 0:34:31- "It was the best present
0:34:31 > 0:34:33- "I'd ever received
0:34:33 > 0:34:36- "When the winter comes, - I'll certainly wear it
0:34:37 > 0:34:41- "If there's snow and ice, - I'll be warm and cosy
0:34:41 > 0:34:46- "Warm until winter - and the bitter chill is over
0:34:46 > 0:34:49- "For this, Llew is grateful
0:34:49 > 0:34:52- "To the Llew from Lluest Wen."
0:34:55 > 0:34:57- What you see in T Llew's work...
0:34:57 > 0:35:00- ..is the longing, the fear...
0:35:00 > 0:35:02- ..the hope for a better world.
0:35:03 > 0:35:06- Those are - the recurring themes in his work.
0:35:06 > 0:35:08- We see them - in his children's literature.
0:35:09 > 0:35:12- "The wind is howling - at the door of Hafod Wen
0:35:12 > 0:35:15- "And I'm in bed - with bedclothes over my head."
0:35:15 > 0:35:19- There's fear there, though - he's not afraid of the night...
0:35:20 > 0:35:22- ..he's afraid of the night's fears.
0:35:25 > 0:35:27- I had to go out at night sometimes.
0:35:28 > 0:35:30- I remember going to - the Band of Hope.
0:35:30 > 0:35:34- I had to brave - the darkness to get there.
0:35:34 > 0:35:36- I prayed - the moon would light my way.
0:35:37 > 0:35:39- The moon was bright - by the time I walked home...
0:35:40 > 0:35:44- ..but that was worse - because I'd see shadows then, Beti.
0:35:44 > 0:35:47- As for his poetry, - he's won two bardic chairs...
0:35:47 > 0:35:50- ..for his wonderful odes.
0:35:51 > 0:35:54- On one hand - they differ from one another...
0:35:54 > 0:35:58- ..but after studying them, it's - the same thing which drives them.
0:35:59 > 0:36:02- In both odes, the poet - is looking at a better place...
0:36:02 > 0:36:05- ..that's just within our reach.
0:36:05 > 0:36:09- There's a better place in - the distance but we never reach it.
0:36:09 > 0:36:13- Caethiwed - is one of my favourite poems.
0:36:13 > 0:36:15- "Sometimes my heart - is like a fledgling
0:36:16 > 0:36:19- "Who came in - through the back kitchen door
0:36:19 > 0:36:24- "In his mad frenzy, he can't - find his way back to the forest
0:36:24 > 0:36:27- "The noisy flapping - of his wings can be heard.
0:36:27 > 0:36:31- "When he feels - the walls are closing in on him
0:36:31 > 0:36:33- "He bangs on - the cell's windows in earnest
0:36:34 > 0:36:36- "As he tries to free himself
0:36:36 > 0:36:40- "Through the window - he sees beyond the garden
0:36:40 > 0:36:43- "The welcoming branches - of the oak and the pine
0:36:43 > 0:36:46- "He hurls himself towards their arms
0:36:46 > 0:36:50- "And falls on an invisible border."
0:36:50 > 0:36:55- We're all slaves to our - circumstances and life experiences.
0:36:55 > 0:37:00- That's the tragedy of it all. - The heart is never free.
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0:37:20 > 0:37:22- We're getting used - to this journey, Iolo.
0:37:23 > 0:37:26- Yes, we visit Eira regularly - nowadays.
0:37:28 > 0:37:29- I'm so pleased.
0:37:37 > 0:37:39- It's odd that we get on so well.
0:37:39 > 0:37:41- Yes, it is odd.
0:37:48 > 0:37:50- Hello, Beti. How are you?
0:37:50 > 0:37:52- It's nice to see you.
0:37:53 > 0:37:55- You too.
0:37:55 > 0:37:59- You never know how things will - turn out but it's worked out well.
0:37:59 > 0:38:01- It's strange, isn't it?
0:38:02 > 0:38:04- What is it?
0:38:06 > 0:38:08- Lemon drizzle cake.
0:38:08 > 0:38:10- Fantastic.
0:38:10 > 0:38:13- Eira will have gone to - a lot of trouble.
0:38:13 > 0:38:16- There'll be - a wonderful spread on the table.
0:38:17 > 0:38:20- Gwyndaf's very amiable, fair play.
0:38:20 > 0:38:22- That's fantastic.
0:38:22 > 0:38:24- It's wonderful.
0:38:24 > 0:38:26- That's one I made earlier!
0:38:29 > 0:38:33- How has Gwyndaf - come to terms with it?
0:38:33 > 0:38:38- He's overjoyed. - They think the world of him too.
0:38:38 > 0:38:40- The red wine will be out.
0:38:40 > 0:38:43- Gwyndaf will definitely have - the red wine out.
0:38:44 > 0:38:47- Between Gwyndaf's wine and Eira's - cakes, we're in for a treat.
0:38:48 > 0:38:51- You must've wanted Eira - to contact them?
0:38:51 > 0:38:56- Yes, because it's made a difference - to our lives.
0:38:56 > 0:38:58- We're very pleased.
0:38:58 > 0:39:02- As Gwyndaf says, - it's given us a new lease of life.
0:39:02 > 0:39:04- It all came about this year.
0:39:05 > 0:39:08- I'd wanted to contact them - many years ago...
0:39:08 > 0:39:11- ..but the time - wasn't right back then.
0:39:11 > 0:39:15- I decided it was the right time - this year, before I got too old.
0:39:17 > 0:39:18- Here we are.
0:39:18 > 0:39:20- Here we are.- - We're in Swiss Valley now.
0:39:21 > 0:39:23- Rugby territory.
0:39:23 > 0:39:25- The land of the saucepan.
0:39:25 > 0:39:27- I wrote Emyr a letter.
0:39:29 > 0:39:32- I didn't hear from him - for three weeks.
0:39:32 > 0:39:35- I thought, what do I do now?
0:39:35 > 0:39:40- A Spanish lady wrote to me - saying that she was related to me.
0:39:40 > 0:39:43- Everyone seemed to be - tracing their family tree.
0:39:43 > 0:39:47- It must have been - at the bottom of a pile of papers.
0:39:47 > 0:39:51- Iris said to me one day, - "You have to sort out those papers."
0:39:51 > 0:39:52- So I phoned her...
0:39:52 > 0:39:54- So I phoned her...- - I was in the shower...
0:39:55 > 0:39:58- ..Gwyndaf was in the garden, - so he left a message.
0:39:58 > 0:40:02- I phoned him back - and we had a chat...
0:40:03 > 0:40:07- ..because I hadn't told him - in the letter how we were related...
0:40:07 > 0:40:10- ..in case he had a fright.
0:40:10 > 0:40:14- We chatted about - our static caravan in Cardigan.
0:40:14 > 0:40:19- He said, "We'll come to Cardigan, - it's not far from Ffostrasol...
0:40:19 > 0:40:22- "..to meet you over the summer."
0:40:22 > 0:40:24- I said, "I'm not waiting that long."
0:40:25 > 0:40:29- I said to him, "I don't think - you know who I am." He said, "No."
0:40:30 > 0:40:32- I said to her very cheerfully...
0:40:32 > 0:40:37- .."Now then, tell me how you're - related to me, and she said..."
0:40:37 > 0:40:39- I'm your sister.
0:40:43 > 0:40:47- It went very silent - on the other end of the phone.
0:40:47 > 0:40:49- I can imagine.
0:40:49 > 0:40:51- I can imagine.- - He said, "We have to meet today."
0:40:51 > 0:40:53- We met at Pont Abraham.
0:40:53 > 0:40:55- And that's what we did.
0:40:56 > 0:40:59- I went there an hour beforehand - to wait for her.
0:40:59 > 0:41:03- When she walked through the door, - I knew immediately who she was.
0:41:04 > 0:41:06- How are you, Eira? - We're here at last.
0:41:06 > 0:41:08- Come here.
0:41:09 > 0:41:12- You usually give me a cwtsh.
0:41:14 > 0:41:16- Hello, Iolo. Are you alright?
0:41:16 > 0:41:18- Nice to see you again.
0:41:18 > 0:41:22- I said on the way here that I bet - there'll be cakes on the table.
0:41:23 > 0:41:25- Yes, there are cakes on the table.
0:41:25 > 0:41:30- Something special - has happened to Iolo and myself.
0:41:31 > 0:41:34- Eira's a special person - and we've been very lucky...
0:41:35 > 0:41:37- ..that she made contact with us.
0:41:37 > 0:41:38- I'm so pleased.
0:41:38 > 0:41:40- I'm so pleased.- - Thank you very much.
0:41:40 > 0:41:44- I'm glad there's someone - in the family who can sing...
0:41:44 > 0:41:48- ..because no-one else can.
0:41:51 > 0:41:56- T Llew - is the common denominator here.
0:41:56 > 0:41:59- Yes, we talk about him a lot.
0:41:59 > 0:42:01- It's nice to hear about him...
0:42:01 > 0:42:04- ..because I didn't know him - when I was young.
0:42:05 > 0:42:07- I'd see him on television regularly.
0:42:07 > 0:42:09- Mam bought his books too.
0:42:09 > 0:42:11- What do you call him?
0:42:12 > 0:42:14- Our father.
0:42:14 > 0:42:18- I used to say, - "My father did this or that"...
0:42:18 > 0:42:21- ..but he's now become "our father."
0:42:24 > 0:42:29- To begin with, Eira, tell me about - your mother. Where was she from?
0:42:29 > 0:42:34- Cardigan. She was born - in Cilgerran, just outside Cardigan.
0:42:35 > 0:42:40- What happened to your mother - happened during the early 1940s.
0:42:41 > 0:42:46- Having an illegitimate child, - a child out of wedlock...
0:42:46 > 0:42:48- ..was frowned upon.
0:42:49 > 0:42:51- Precisely.
0:42:51 > 0:42:55- It was very difficult for her.
0:42:55 > 0:42:59- She had to leave home...
0:42:59 > 0:43:03- ..because Mam-gu wasn't willing - for her to stay at home.
0:43:03 > 0:43:06- That's what it was like years ago.
0:43:07 > 0:43:09- She had to go to Cardiff...
0:43:09 > 0:43:13- ..to the Salvation Army's hospital.
0:43:14 > 0:43:19- She gave birth to me and found work - in a large house in Llandaff...
0:43:20 > 0:43:22- ..on Palace Road.
0:43:22 > 0:43:26- What's written - on your birth certificate?
0:43:26 > 0:43:29- My father's name - is written on there...
0:43:29 > 0:43:31- ..but five years after I was born...
0:43:31 > 0:43:35- ..because he was in Egypt - for five years, then he came back...
0:43:36 > 0:43:39- ..and somehow or other...
0:43:39 > 0:43:44- ..I think my uncles, - my mother's brothers...
0:43:44 > 0:43:48- ..were adamant his name - should be on the birth certificate.
0:43:48 > 0:43:51- They contacted him...
0:43:51 > 0:43:54- ..and he agreed to do that.
0:43:54 > 0:43:58- So his name is on it - and I'm pleased about that.
0:44:02 > 0:44:05- I knew from the start - that he was famous.
0:44:05 > 0:44:08- Mam told me - that he'd written books...
0:44:09 > 0:44:12- ..when I was old enough - to understand.
0:44:15 > 0:44:17- Did you ever meet him?
0:44:17 > 0:44:23- Yes. He came to Cardigan - primary school to meet the pupils.
0:44:24 > 0:44:26- That's what he used to do back then.
0:44:26 > 0:44:30- I used to say, "He's my father."
0:44:31 > 0:44:33- He never tried to hide the fact.
0:44:33 > 0:44:37- I didn't talk to him that time...
0:44:37 > 0:44:43- ..but I spoke to him at the Cardigan - Eisteddfod, where he'd taken part.
0:44:43 > 0:44:46- Mam wanted me to meet him.
0:44:46 > 0:44:49- She said, "Let's go backstage."
0:44:49 > 0:44:51- I thought, what's going on here?
0:44:53 > 0:44:56- She said, "This is your father."
0:44:56 > 0:45:00- She said to T Llew, "This is Eira."
0:45:00 > 0:45:04- He said, "Hello, Eira, - I'm pleased to meet you."
0:45:04 > 0:45:06- That's all he said?
0:45:07 > 0:45:10- Yes, that was it. - But that's how it was back then.
0:45:14 > 0:45:17- It's a tragedy that he didn't - acknowledge the relationship...
0:45:17 > 0:45:19- ..during his lifetime.
0:45:20 > 0:45:23- It would've been beneficial - for Eira, for us...
0:45:23 > 0:45:27- ..for him and for Mam, if he'd - acknowledged the relationship.
0:45:28 > 0:45:32- Pity he didn't find the strength - to face up to it...
0:45:32 > 0:45:34- ..and bring it into the open.
0:45:36 > 0:45:39- They belonged to a different era...
0:45:39 > 0:45:42- ..when there was a stigma - attached to things like this.
0:45:42 > 0:45:47- I hope we now live in an age where - people acknowledge each other...
0:45:47 > 0:45:50- ..regardless of the circumstances.
0:45:50 > 0:45:53- Some people would've known.
0:45:53 > 0:45:55- People who you knew.
0:45:55 > 0:45:59- My cousin, Jon Meirion, knew.
0:46:00 > 0:46:05- Idris Reynolds, - my father's biographer, knew.
0:46:06 > 0:46:09- Later, when I phoned people - and asked them if they knew...
0:46:10 > 0:46:12- ..they said they did.
0:46:12 > 0:46:16- Some people knew - but neither of us had any idea.
0:46:17 > 0:46:20- We're so pleased - that we've found each other.
0:46:21 > 0:46:24- I try to put myself - in Eira's shoes...
0:46:25 > 0:46:28- ..and probably - there wasn't a day that went by...
0:46:28 > 0:46:32- ..when she didn't think - about her father and about us.
0:46:33 > 0:46:36- I did. Every now and then...
0:46:37 > 0:46:41- There's a lot of sadness about that - but we're making up for it.
0:46:42 > 0:46:45- Yes, that's what it is, - it's a mixture of happiness...
0:46:46 > 0:46:48- ..and sadness.
0:46:48 > 0:46:51- But we've put it behind us.
0:46:51 > 0:46:54- We're starting afresh.
0:46:54 > 0:46:58- I'm so glad she's finally - being acknowledged for who she is.
0:46:58 > 0:47:01- Our sister.
0:47:01 > 0:47:03- That means a lot to us.
0:47:12 > 0:47:15- A master, a craftsman...
0:47:15 > 0:47:20- ..a man who understood the hearts - of children and adults alike.
0:47:20 > 0:47:22- That was his speciality.
0:47:22 > 0:47:25- It was that talent - which made him the genius he was.
0:47:26 > 0:47:30- He touched people's hearts - and dealt with affairs of the heart.
0:47:31 > 0:47:35- Oh, yes, I have - one more story to tell before I end.
0:47:35 > 0:47:38- I had a schoolmaster years ago - called Dewi Evans.
0:47:38 > 0:47:42- He had a young son called Robert.
0:47:42 > 0:47:48- Dewi said to me, "My son Robert - enjoys reading your books.
0:47:48 > 0:47:52- "Can I bring him with me - to meet you?"
0:47:52 > 0:47:54- I said, "Yes, bring him along."
0:47:54 > 0:47:57- The young child sat on the sofa...
0:47:57 > 0:48:00- ..while Dewi and I - were discussing education.
0:48:00 > 0:48:04- Dewi said, - "Say something to T Llew Jones."
0:48:04 > 0:48:06- He said, "That's who he is!"
0:48:06 > 0:48:08- CHILDREN LAUGH
0:48:08 > 0:48:12- That's who I am. - Thank you very much.
0:48:28 > 0:48:30- S4C Subtitles by Adnod Cyf.
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