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0:00:03 > 0:00:03- You want something to do?
0:00:03 > 0:00:05- You want something to do?
0:00:05 > 0:00:08- Put that through all of those.
0:00:09 > 0:00:10- Use your head now.
0:00:13 > 0:00:14- Everyday life?
0:00:15 > 0:00:18- We're part of the lives - of the four children.
0:00:18 > 0:00:22- We've got four... We've got three - grandsons and one granddaughter.
0:00:22 > 0:00:24- We're very busy with them.
0:00:25 > 0:00:27- You'd better put these on, - just in case.
0:00:27 > 0:00:31- Sometimes you're useful when you - introduce them to someone special.
0:00:32 > 0:00:34- Yeah. Gareth Bale and Rob Brydon.
0:00:36 > 0:00:39- I've been fishing since - I was a very little boy.
0:00:39 > 0:00:41- I was five years old...
0:00:42 > 0:00:45- ..with a bamboo pole...
0:00:45 > 0:00:48- ..in the river behind the house - in Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen.
0:00:49 > 0:00:51- The river was as black as this.
0:00:52 > 0:00:55- We're lucky. - Our two sons live close by.
0:00:55 > 0:00:58- Rhys is in Llantrisant - and Owain's in Pontyclun.
0:00:58 > 0:01:00- We meet up regularly.
0:01:00 > 0:01:04- They have lunch with us regularly, - that's important, isn't it.
0:01:04 > 0:01:06- Don't flick, - you've got enough time.
0:01:07 > 0:01:08- Hold it back.
0:01:08 > 0:01:10- Tick-tock.
0:01:12 > 0:01:15- A teacher in school taught me - how to fish.
0:01:15 > 0:01:19- I remember it, and I wasn't older - than Tommy.
0:01:19 > 0:01:21- Tick-tock.
0:01:22 > 0:01:24- Tick-tock...
0:01:24 > 0:01:27- Over half-way. The kick ahead - by Edwards. Can he score?
0:01:28 > 0:01:30- It would be a miracle if he could.
0:01:30 > 0:01:32- He may well get there, and he has.
0:01:33 > 0:01:35- Tick-tock.
0:01:35 > 0:01:37- Tick-tock.
0:01:37 > 0:01:38- Do you know what?
0:01:39 > 0:01:42- You're the best one for listening - to me about that.
0:01:42 > 0:01:46- Gareth Edwards at 70
0:01:52 > 0:01:54- The 1970s.
0:01:55 > 0:01:57- When the giants played rugby.
0:01:58 > 0:01:59- Benny...
0:02:00 > 0:02:02- ..JJ, JPR and Gerald...
0:02:02 > 0:02:05- ..Grav, and of course...
0:02:05 > 0:02:06- ..the prince.
0:02:08 > 0:02:11- I can see us coming down - the stairs.
0:02:11 > 0:02:13- You'd try, right...
0:02:14 > 0:02:15- "Good luck, boys, good luck."
0:02:16 > 0:02:18- "Remember not to lose."
0:02:19 > 0:02:21- Gareth Edwards.
0:02:21 > 0:02:25- A name and icon who's now part - of the Welsh landscape.
0:02:25 > 0:02:29- For the experts, he's the best - player in the history of the game.
0:02:29 > 0:02:33- For the nation, an inspiration - to generation after generation.
0:02:36 > 0:02:39- People would slap you - on your back...
0:02:39 > 0:02:42- ..and, "Don't let us down now, - boys, don't let us down."
0:02:42 > 0:02:48- If you didn't realize at the time - you were representing Wales...
0:02:48 > 0:02:51- ..by the time you arrived - at the pitch...
0:02:51 > 0:02:54- ..you knew exactly what it meant - to people.
0:03:05 > 0:03:07- Every legend has its roots.
0:03:07 > 0:03:10- But the root of this one - - Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen.
0:03:10 > 0:03:13- Bordering the Beacons, - valleys and meadows...
0:03:13 > 0:03:17- ..the language was Welsh - and the work was coal.
0:03:18 > 0:03:20- This is where I was born.
0:03:20 > 0:03:24- It was the same place at the time - I was born and raised as it is now.
0:03:24 > 0:03:27- When I come here, I'm coming home.
0:03:30 > 0:03:32- I had a very happy upbringing.
0:03:33 > 0:03:37- We lived in a small house, - it didn't have many rooms...
0:03:37 > 0:03:39- ..for you to have time alone.
0:03:39 > 0:03:41- We slept together - when we were children.
0:03:42 > 0:03:45- Yes, we only had one room. - Gloria was in the other room.
0:03:45 > 0:03:47- But it was part of life.
0:03:47 > 0:03:51- It wasn't something where you said, - "Why have they got...?"
0:03:51 > 0:03:53- That's how all our friends lived.
0:03:55 > 0:03:57- We'd walk to school every morning.
0:03:57 > 0:04:00- I remember sliding to school, - we wore hobnailed boots.
0:04:01 > 0:04:03- Then you were pulled along.
0:04:03 > 0:04:05- Like a chariot.
0:04:05 > 0:04:07- Like a chariot.- - And sparks would come up.
0:04:14 > 0:04:17- What I believe more than - anything...
0:04:17 > 0:04:20- ..is that these miners - in every village...
0:04:21 > 0:04:23- ..were special people, - that's all I can say.
0:04:24 > 0:04:26- They were all special people.
0:04:26 > 0:04:28- But at the same time, - you didn't want your son...
0:04:29 > 0:04:31- ..to work underground with you.
0:04:32 > 0:04:35- Working in the pits, and I realized - this as a boy...
0:04:36 > 0:04:38- ..was extremely hard work.
0:04:38 > 0:04:40- You felt that's what - your future held.
0:04:41 > 0:04:44- You couldn't see further than that.
0:04:44 > 0:04:48- I didn't think for one second - that I'd play for Wales.
0:04:48 > 0:04:49- That was all ahead of me.
0:04:54 > 0:04:58- You name it, we've played - every game under the sun here.
0:04:58 > 0:05:02- We scored the best goals - that have ever been scored.
0:05:02 > 0:05:05- Gareth Bale has never scored - the goals we scored!
0:05:05 > 0:05:11- I could hear my father's voice - coming from about 200 yards away.
0:05:11 > 0:05:14- "Gareth and Gethin, bed."
0:05:14 > 0:05:18- "Dad, Dad, we've nearly finished.
0:05:18 > 0:05:20- "Winning goal! Winning goal!"
0:05:21 > 0:05:24- Geth, do you remember, the - winning goal took so long.
0:05:24 > 0:05:26- Half an hour? Three quarters?
0:05:26 > 0:05:29- We were all competing - and that's what was important.
0:05:33 > 0:05:37- Competing on the field not on paper - was the priority.
0:05:37 > 0:05:41- He received his secondary education - at Pontardawe Technical School...
0:05:41 > 0:05:45- ..and it was there that two - important relationships flourished.
0:05:45 > 0:05:47- When did we meet?
0:05:47 > 0:05:49- Right, school. 13? 14?
0:05:50 > 0:05:53- Then I went out with him - to the cinema.
0:05:54 > 0:05:56- I don't remember which film it was.
0:05:58 > 0:06:00- We had a...
0:06:00 > 0:06:03- His friend was going out - with my friend...
0:06:03 > 0:06:07- ..and we wanted a group, that's why - I went out with him really.
0:06:07 > 0:06:10- I told some, he was the last one - left in the village!
0:06:10 > 0:06:12- And now you're 70.
0:06:12 > 0:06:14- But I'm not 70.
0:06:14 > 0:06:16- It's Gareth who's 70.
0:06:17 > 0:06:19- I will be next month!
0:06:24 > 0:06:28- Gareth was mentored in Pontardawe - by the teacher, Bill Samuel.
0:06:28 > 0:06:31- An individual who proved to be - a key influence.
0:06:31 > 0:06:35- I have to say that he'd taught him - exceptionally well.
0:06:36 > 0:06:38- Not just about rugby - but how the body works...
0:06:39 > 0:06:42- ..the strength, movement, speed.
0:06:44 > 0:06:48- But the young pupil didn't just - shine with the oval ball.
0:06:48 > 0:06:50- He was a Welsh athletics - champion...
0:06:50 > 0:06:54- ..and he was given the chance to - join Swansea Football Club.
0:06:56 > 0:06:58- That was one thing - about Gareth Edwards...
0:06:58 > 0:07:02- ..he was talented in nearly - everything he did.
0:07:02 > 0:07:06- But good grief, - he worked hard on his game...
0:07:06 > 0:07:08- ..to make it even better.
0:07:09 > 0:07:12- I have to say that stemmed from...
0:07:12 > 0:07:14- ..the guidance of Bill Samuel...
0:07:14 > 0:07:18- ..especially the help he got - to get into Millfield.
0:07:18 > 0:07:22- Millfield Prep School in Somerset.
0:07:23 > 0:07:26- The best education - for the highest price.
0:07:26 > 0:07:29- Only the most privileged - could attend.
0:07:29 > 0:07:33- But somehow, thanks to the - persistence of Bill Samuel...
0:07:34 > 0:07:36- ..and support from - the head, Boss Myers...
0:07:36 > 0:07:40- ..a miner's son was about to - receive a private education.
0:07:40 > 0:07:44- I remember Dad going down there and - there were Rolls Royce...
0:07:45 > 0:07:49- ..Bentleys, Jaguars everywhere.
0:07:49 > 0:07:52- Everything like that.
0:07:52 > 0:07:55- And there he was in his - Morris Cowley...
0:07:55 > 0:07:58- ..and he was as proud - as anyone else there.
0:07:58 > 0:08:00- Where was he going to park?
0:08:00 > 0:08:04- Of course, just like everything - in Millfield...
0:08:04 > 0:08:08- ..it didn't matter what you had, - someone was always better off.
0:08:10 > 0:08:14- Gareth would also send his sons, - Rhys and Owen, to the same school.
0:08:15 > 0:08:18- 50 years after the young Edwards - crossed the Severn...
0:08:19 > 0:08:23- ..for the first time the three are - on another pilgrimage to Millfield.
0:08:23 > 0:08:26- I remember this man...
0:08:26 > 0:08:29- ..who taught at the school - when you were there.
0:08:29 > 0:08:32- He was quite old by the time - I turned up.
0:08:32 > 0:08:34- He was the trampolining teacher.
0:08:34 > 0:08:35- He was the trampolining teacher.- - Oh, yes!
0:08:36 > 0:08:38- "I remember your father in school.
0:08:39 > 0:08:41- "He turned up, - asked what they were doing."
0:08:41 > 0:08:45- They had been working on some - triple somersault...
0:08:45 > 0:08:47- ..with a triple pike or whatever!
0:08:48 > 0:08:51- Gareth Edwards jumped - on the trampoline...
0:08:51 > 0:08:54- ..and did the bloomin' thing - first time.
0:08:58 > 0:09:02- In the rugby team about seven or - eight different countries...
0:09:03 > 0:09:05- ..were represent...represent...
0:09:06 > 0:09:07- Represento!
0:09:09 > 0:09:10- "Cynrychioli!"
0:09:11 > 0:09:13- Imagine - "I represento Wales!"
0:09:15 > 0:09:18- Remember when we played football - in the garden...
0:09:19 > 0:09:23- ..and some fathers would have a - shot you had a chance at saving.
0:09:23 > 0:09:25- But Dad would tee up...
0:09:25 > 0:09:27- He'd shoot a real howitzer.
0:09:28 > 0:09:32- And if you held onto it, he'd be - like Hotshot Hamish...
0:09:33 > 0:09:35- ..right in the back of the net.
0:09:36 > 0:09:38- Where am I here?
0:09:38 > 0:09:39- Where am I here?- - Left!
0:09:39 > 0:09:42- Rhys, where an earth - do you think you are?
0:09:42 > 0:09:44- Go round and back up there.
0:09:44 > 0:09:47- Go round and back up there.- - Up there.
0:09:47 > 0:09:50- Well done, Rhys, you've parked - half on one, half on the other.
0:09:50 > 0:09:53- Iesu Mawr! How much - do you want to bet on it?
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0:09:57 > 0:09:58- Subtitles
0:10:02 > 0:10:05- If Gareth Edwards was created - in Gwaun...
0:10:05 > 0:10:08- ..his character - was formed in Millfield.
0:10:08 > 0:10:12- The miner's son from South Wales - had to cope with the challenge...
0:10:12 > 0:10:15- ..of socialising with the rich - and privileged.
0:10:18 > 0:10:20- What helped me was...
0:10:20 > 0:10:24- ..there was a rugby camp - a week before term started.
0:10:24 > 0:10:29- We all came together to prepare - for the rugby season.
0:10:29 > 0:10:31- By the end of the week...
0:10:31 > 0:10:35- ..I knew some of the more - important boys in the school.
0:10:36 > 0:10:38- The prefects and so on.
0:10:38 > 0:10:41- I was comfortable - before term started...
0:10:41 > 0:10:43- ..so that was the biggest help - to me.
0:10:43 > 0:10:46- I'd never heard about the school - before.
0:10:46 > 0:10:49- He asked me if I'd write to him.
0:10:49 > 0:10:52- I said, "We'll see", because - I don't like writing.
0:10:54 > 0:10:56- That's how it was.
0:10:56 > 0:11:00- I went down there to visit him - at the school.
0:11:00 > 0:11:02- Strange place.
0:11:02 > 0:11:05- He came back once, I don't know - if he told you the story...
0:11:06 > 0:11:09- ..and he started to talk - quite posh.
0:11:10 > 0:11:13- My sisters were round listening - to him and he said...
0:11:14 > 0:11:16- "Actually", he said like that...
0:11:16 > 0:11:19- ..and we all started laughing - at him straight away.
0:11:19 > 0:11:21- I'll never forget that.
0:11:24 > 0:11:26- If Millfield has an expertise - today...
0:11:27 > 0:11:29- ..then it's on the physical side.
0:11:29 > 0:11:32- You have been given - an opportunity...
0:11:32 > 0:11:35- There are 28 different - sporting departments.
0:11:36 > 0:11:40- Every one has a specialist head, - from horse riding to golf...
0:11:40 > 0:11:42- ..and of course, rugby.
0:11:42 > 0:11:45- Some of you will be playing - for enjoyment.
0:11:45 > 0:11:49- Enjoy the opportunity, make - the most of it and good luck.
0:11:49 > 0:11:51- Thank you.
0:11:53 > 0:11:56- The list of the school's successes - is long.
0:11:56 > 0:12:00- Politicians, kings, champions - and business people.
0:12:00 > 0:12:03- But even now, 50 years later...
0:12:03 > 0:12:06- ..it's Gareth Edwards - who's the most prominent.
0:12:07 > 0:12:10- Because he'd gone to Millfield, - gone to that kind of school...
0:12:10 > 0:12:13- ..he was away from home - for a long time.
0:12:14 > 0:12:18- So you needed strength and - personality to be on your own...
0:12:18 > 0:12:21- ..and you also needed - to be determined.
0:12:21 > 0:12:25- It was important to be independent - and I think that was in Gareth.
0:12:25 > 0:12:28- He grabbed the opportunity - with both hands.
0:12:29 > 0:12:31- How are you? Are you well?
0:12:31 > 0:12:36- The reality of Gareth Edwards' life - means someone always wants a chat.
0:12:36 > 0:12:41- Be it a stranger, an old friend - or even a familiar face.
0:12:41 > 0:12:45- The youngsters, the players - that he addressed today...
0:12:45 > 0:12:48- ..don't really realize - what a legend the man is.
0:12:48 > 0:12:52- So, I think they're lucky to have - role models like himself...
0:12:52 > 0:12:58- ..but also guys like Chris Robshaw, - Vunipola, Jonathan Joseph...
0:12:58 > 0:13:02- ..all these guys that are - currently in the England team...
0:13:02 > 0:13:04- ..all came from Millfield.
0:13:04 > 0:13:07- It's produced some legendary - rugby players.
0:13:07 > 0:13:11- I think the boys will realize - when they look on YouTube.
0:13:12 > 0:13:15- What's YouTube?
0:13:20 > 0:13:22- 1966.
0:13:22 > 0:13:26- Rather than return to the West to - either Swansea or Llanelli...
0:13:26 > 0:13:30- ..he turned his sights towards the - bright lights of the capital.
0:13:30 > 0:13:34- The game was amateur so there was - no money to attract players.
0:13:34 > 0:13:38- But after accepting advice - from Bill Samuel, he chose Cardiff.
0:13:38 > 0:13:43- He had played for Cardiff - and he also remembered...
0:13:43 > 0:13:45- ..how professional they were.
0:13:45 > 0:13:49- Not through wages, only through - the way they played...
0:13:49 > 0:13:52- ..the way they looked after - the players.
0:13:52 > 0:13:57- He said, the more I think about it, - Cardiff's the club for you.
0:13:57 > 0:14:01- I was glad, just like Gareth - was I'm sure...
0:14:02 > 0:14:04- ..glad about that side of things.
0:14:04 > 0:14:07- There were rumours in the past - among some clubs...
0:14:07 > 0:14:10- ..that money changed hands - under the table.
0:14:10 > 0:14:13- But that never happened in Cardiff.
0:14:13 > 0:14:16- Cardiff's mind-set - was professionalism.
0:14:16 > 0:14:20- Boys, that's what you call - bloody spoiling them.
0:14:23 > 0:14:25- Fine, thanks.
0:14:25 > 0:14:27- Look at that, look at that!
0:14:29 > 0:14:33- In my time, the changing rooms - were over here.
0:14:33 > 0:14:34- I remember...
0:14:36 > 0:14:39- ..running on the spot, - a few press-ups...
0:14:40 > 0:14:42- .."Alright, boys?", - "Let's go now."
0:14:42 > 0:14:45- That would be a warm up!
0:14:46 > 0:14:49- It's a totally different world.
0:14:49 > 0:14:53- When we played away from home, - we had to behave ourselves...
0:14:54 > 0:14:58- ..we had to respect where we were, - of the people we were with.
0:14:58 > 0:15:01- The club taught you that.
0:15:01 > 0:15:06- And also, the older players, - many of them were teachers...
0:15:06 > 0:15:09- ..they'd say, - this is how Cardiff behave...
0:15:09 > 0:15:12- ..when we're away from home.
0:15:12 > 0:15:14- Don't you have anything else to do?
0:15:14 > 0:15:15- Don't you have anything else to do?- - No!
0:15:20 > 0:15:24- It's hard to describe it, - I felt at home.
0:15:24 > 0:15:29- The reason why so many players - came to Cardiff...
0:15:29 > 0:15:32- ..was because they could find work - in the city.
0:15:33 > 0:15:36- People worked in large companies.
0:15:38 > 0:15:40- There were opportunities - to be had here.
0:15:41 > 0:15:45- COMMENTARY:- Into the space, a 50/50 - ball and Edwards wins it.
0:15:45 > 0:15:48- And that's going to be a first try - for Cardiff.
0:15:48 > 0:15:51- A pure solo effort - by Gareth Edwards.
0:15:53 > 0:15:56- You never remember enjoying - the moment...
0:15:56 > 0:15:58- ..maybe you'd scored a try.
0:15:58 > 0:16:02- You'd go over the game and think, - "I made a mistake there"...
0:16:02 > 0:16:04- .."I shouldn't have done that."
0:16:05 > 0:16:09- But I think that's how people tend - to look back at their games.
0:16:10 > 0:16:12- They're their own worst critic.
0:16:12 > 0:16:15- I think I was quite harsh - on myself.
0:16:15 > 0:16:18- He wanted be to perfect - in everything he did...
0:16:18 > 0:16:20- ..especially when he played rugby.
0:16:20 > 0:16:23- If it wasn't perfect, - he could be difficult.
0:16:23 > 0:16:25- He was hard on himself.
0:16:25 > 0:16:28- He'd get upset over everything.
0:16:31 > 0:16:33- He's still the same, really.
0:16:33 > 0:16:37- Whatever he does, - he wants to do it right.
0:16:37 > 0:16:40- COMMENTATOR: - Edwards, who gets through.
0:16:40 > 0:16:43- He could be in for a try. - Edwards rubs it in.
0:16:43 > 0:16:45- That's the try that will seal...
0:16:45 > 0:16:48- I don't think there's ever been - a perfect player.
0:16:48 > 0:16:51- Gareth himself would admit - he wasn't perfect.
0:16:51 > 0:16:55- But he had the best skills - we'd ever seen.
0:16:55 > 0:16:58- I played against him once, - just once.
0:16:58 > 0:17:01- He was playing for the Barbarians - against Swansea...
0:17:01 > 0:17:03- ..and I was captaining Swansea.
0:17:04 > 0:17:07- It was a pleasure to play - against him even then...
0:17:07 > 0:17:09- ..when he was a youngster.
0:17:09 > 0:17:12- I think I told him he was too young - to talk to me on the pitch.
0:17:13 > 0:17:14- We'll talk after the game!
0:17:14 > 0:17:17- He started to laugh - and what did he do?
0:17:17 > 0:17:21- Score a try straight away. So I - said to him, "Sorry, Gareth."
0:17:23 > 0:17:27- As it was an amateur game, he had - to start a professional career.
0:17:27 > 0:17:30- The first step was college - in Cardiff...
0:17:30 > 0:17:35- ..and the challenge of balancing - the academic and physical work.
0:17:35 > 0:17:38- Maureen said several times, "You - never go out dancing on Fridays."
0:17:39 > 0:17:41- Not that I wanted to dance.
0:17:41 > 0:17:45- No, because I'd be thinking about - the game I had on the Saturday.
0:17:45 > 0:17:48- But you know, every athlete - or any sports person...
0:17:48 > 0:17:50- ..has had to do that.
0:17:50 > 0:17:56- If you want to get to the top, - you have to give something up.
0:17:57 > 0:17:59- I was working in Llanelli.
0:18:00 > 0:18:04- I was going out with this bloke - who played for Cardiff.
0:18:05 > 0:18:07- I didn't tell anyone in Llanelli...
0:18:07 > 0:18:11- ..or they wouldn't come to the shop - to buy things.
0:18:11 > 0:18:15- COMMENTARY:- And sheer delight - for Gareth Edwards and Cardiff.
0:18:15 > 0:18:19- I remember sitting in the stand - with my friends from Llanelli...
0:18:19 > 0:18:22- ..and in the stand I shouted, - "Come on, Cardiff!"
0:18:23 > 0:18:26- It slipped out. - I'll never forget that.
0:18:30 > 0:18:34- I was talking to Peter Thomas - tonight about the club...
0:18:35 > 0:18:40- ..but once the game starts - I feel as if I'm still playing.
0:18:40 > 0:18:44- I think, what would I do - in that situation?
0:18:44 > 0:18:47- Once the game starts, - I forget everything else.
0:18:47 > 0:18:51- I have to say, I'm pleased - I don't have to play the game.
0:18:51 > 0:18:54- But I do enjoy watching it.
0:18:56 > 0:19:00- 12 seasons, nearly 200 games - and 50 tries...
0:19:01 > 0:19:03- ..but only one club.
0:19:03 > 0:19:06- Gareth Edwards has been faithful - to Cardiff.
0:19:06 > 0:19:09- Even today, he remains - a member of the board.
0:19:10 > 0:19:13- He's probably the finest ambassador - we've ever had.
0:19:13 > 0:19:17- He's a true icon in terms - of the game itself.
0:19:18 > 0:19:22- Great love, great passion and - everything he does is competitive.
0:19:22 > 0:19:24- That's the nature of the man.
0:19:30 > 0:19:33- When he goes back home, - he doesn't do anything.
0:19:33 > 0:19:36- He relaxes, feet up - and falls asleep.
0:19:36 > 0:19:39- So you can cope with everything - then, can't you?
0:19:41 > 0:19:43- That's where he gets - his energy from?
0:19:44 > 0:19:45- He can recharge.
0:19:46 > 0:19:49- You can recharge your battery when - you're home so you're alright.
0:19:50 > 0:19:51- Come on!
0:19:55 > 0:19:55- .
0:19:58 > 0:19:59- Subtitles
0:20:00 > 0:20:04- This is Peter West saying good - afternoon from Stade Colombes...
0:20:04 > 0:20:07- ..where the sun is shining and the - going will be dry and hard.
0:20:08 > 0:20:11- The man playing scrum-half, the - young 19-year-old virtuoso...
0:20:11 > 0:20:14- ..Gareth Edwards from Cardiff.
0:20:14 > 0:20:16- 1st April 1967.
0:20:16 > 0:20:18- Stade Colombes, Paris.
0:20:19 > 0:20:21- And Gareth Edwards breaking - on the open side.
0:20:21 > 0:20:24- Barely a year after leaving - Millfield...
0:20:25 > 0:20:27- ..Gareth Edwards won - his first cap.
0:20:30 > 0:20:32- It's hard to believe.
0:20:32 > 0:20:34- I can't believe it.
0:20:34 > 0:20:37- I remember walking up here - 50 years ago.
0:20:37 > 0:20:39- It was incredible.
0:20:39 > 0:20:42- It was like you were in Rome, - in the Coliseum.
0:20:43 > 0:20:47- I remember turning round - and looking...
0:20:47 > 0:20:50- ..and I saw someone in a red coat.
0:20:50 > 0:20:54- I'd never imagined that Maureen - had come here overnight.
0:20:54 > 0:20:56- I felt better, - I didn't feel so alone.
0:20:57 > 0:21:00- Here's this up and under - from Gareth Edwards.
0:21:00 > 0:21:04- Gachassin doesn't fancy his chance - of getting there so he stays back.
0:21:05 > 0:21:08- I'll never forget wearing the shirt - for the first time.
0:21:08 > 0:21:11- I picked it up, - I kissed the badge...
0:21:12 > 0:21:14- ..because I couldn't believe it.
0:21:14 > 0:21:17- One minute I was playing - for the college and Cardiff...
0:21:17 > 0:21:20- ..and the next, - I was playing for Wales.
0:21:20 > 0:21:23- There goes Dauga pounding in, - back to Gareth Edwards...
0:21:23 > 0:21:27- ..whose kicking under pressure - today has been pretty well done.
0:21:28 > 0:21:30- It's one thing to be confident - of your abilities...
0:21:31 > 0:21:34- ..but you have to, - every now and then think...
0:21:34 > 0:21:38- ..am I good enough to play - at this standard?
0:21:39 > 0:21:42- They have it going back. - Gareth Edwards in the clear.
0:21:42 > 0:21:47- When I go out and meet people, - and I'm talking at a dinner...
0:21:47 > 0:21:49- ..I always prepare - as much as I can.
0:21:49 > 0:21:52- But there's always - a bit of nerves there.
0:21:52 > 0:21:55- I think that's important.
0:21:55 > 0:22:00- I don't think you can give your all - unless you have that feeling.
0:22:00 > 0:22:03- Gareth Edwards trying - to pound through.
0:22:03 > 0:22:06- Looks like a knock by John Taylor.
0:22:06 > 0:22:09- What I remember of the game - is how quickly it went by.
0:22:09 > 0:22:13- I'd looked forward to it so much - and then, the next thing I knew...
0:22:13 > 0:22:17- ..the final whistle was blown - and the game was over.
0:22:17 > 0:22:20- I asked, "What's happened? - Is anybody injured?"
0:22:20 > 0:22:21- "No, that's it."
0:22:22 > 0:22:24- It looks as if Wales now - are going to lose...
0:22:25 > 0:22:27- ..their fifth - consecutive international.
0:22:31 > 0:22:33- Oh, it's lovely...
0:22:34 > 0:22:36- ..to think back.
0:22:36 > 0:22:39- Where have all the years gone?
0:22:42 > 0:22:46- Although internationals are not - played at Stade Colombes now...
0:22:46 > 0:22:51- ..it's still the stage for some of - the biggest names in the game.
0:22:51 > 0:22:56- This is home to one of the world's - richest clubs - Racing 92....
0:22:56 > 0:23:00- ..and its world famous fly-half - from New Zealand, Dan Carter.
0:23:00 > 0:23:03- Sir Gareth Edwards is - a household name...
0:23:03 > 0:23:05- ..that everyone knew - in New Zealand.
0:23:06 > 0:23:08- Luckily enough I've been able - to meet him...
0:23:08 > 0:23:11- ..and get to know him - off the field.
0:23:11 > 0:23:13- He's a genuine top man.
0:23:14 > 0:23:16- You're still enjoying it?
0:23:16 > 0:23:19- He had all the skills - running, - passing, the kicking...
0:23:19 > 0:23:22- ..that it takes to be - a quality scrum-half.
0:23:22 > 0:23:26- I think he'd still be able to - manage it in today's game...
0:23:26 > 0:23:29- ..and I'd do anything - to play alongside him.
0:23:29 > 0:23:33- Normally, I've got photographs - of fish that I catch.
0:23:33 > 0:23:35- But this is special.
0:23:44 > 0:23:46- Gareth!
0:23:46 > 0:23:47- Gareth!- - Alright?
0:23:48 > 0:23:49- OK?
0:23:49 > 0:23:50- OK?- - Fine, thank you.
0:23:57 > 0:23:59- Looking great, fantastic.
0:23:59 > 0:24:02- Looking terrific. - Look at the size him.
0:24:03 > 0:24:08- Bar Fred is the place to watch - rugby in the centre of Paris.
0:24:08 > 0:24:12- It's also a second home to Gareth - and his friends in the city.
0:24:13 > 0:24:14- Gareth have the...
0:24:15 > 0:24:16- Big heart.
0:24:16 > 0:24:17- Fantastic.
0:24:21 > 0:24:25- I didn't know how many times - I played against Jean-Claude...
0:24:25 > 0:24:27- ..so I looked back.
0:24:37 > 0:24:40- He was technically very strong.
0:24:41 > 0:24:45- He was very fast, he had quick - feet, the heart and mind.
0:24:45 > 0:24:47- He had everything.
0:24:49 > 0:24:54- In our generation he was the - best player in the world.
0:24:56 > 0:24:58- Typical JPR, he had to - go to hospital...
0:24:58 > 0:25:01- ..but he was back - for the dinner.
0:25:01 > 0:25:04- For us he's a huge, huge man...
0:25:04 > 0:25:06- ..as a rugby player.
0:25:06 > 0:25:09- He is the Pele.
0:25:09 > 0:25:14- Pele, for me, who stayed the - greatest soccer player...
0:25:15 > 0:25:18- ..he is the Pele of rugby.
0:25:23 > 0:25:26- Rugby's Pele or not, he wasn't - certain of his place in the XV.
0:25:31 > 0:25:35- Five people chose the team - back then - The Big Five.
0:25:35 > 0:25:38- We'd chosen the team - on the Thursday night.
0:25:39 > 0:25:41- Then the phone rang - and I answered it.
0:25:41 > 0:25:45- "Yeah, I know who it is. - Gareth, it's you."
0:25:45 > 0:25:46- "Yes.
0:25:47 > 0:25:50- "Have I been selected - for the next game?"
0:25:50 > 0:25:54- "You know I can't tell you. - You'll find out tomorrow morning."
0:25:54 > 0:25:58- "Come on, we're both friends, - come on.
0:25:58 > 0:26:02- "Am I in or not?" - "I can't tell you."
0:26:02 > 0:26:03- "Oh, come on."
0:26:04 > 0:26:07- "OK, I can't say that you're in, - but I can say you're not out."
0:26:08 > 0:26:09- He was alright then.
0:26:10 > 0:26:13- COMMENTARY:- That looks like - a heel against the head.
0:26:13 > 0:26:15- Gareth Edwards and he's over.
0:26:15 > 0:26:18- Every game I was in charge, - Gareth was scrum-half.
0:26:18 > 0:26:22- I was the coach for six years and - that tells you what I think of him.
0:26:22 > 0:26:27- It's incredible when you think he - played 54 consecutive games.
0:26:27 > 0:26:30- Now, that would be impossible.
0:26:30 > 0:26:32- It's hard to believe.
0:26:36 > 0:26:38- Like the brightest - collection of stars...
0:26:38 > 0:26:39- John Taylor.
0:26:40 > 0:26:42- ..how could you inspire - such a team?
0:26:44 > 0:26:47- When you think about it all.
0:26:47 > 0:26:50- John Taylor, very quiet.
0:26:50 > 0:26:51- Barry was chilled.
0:26:52 > 0:26:54- Dai Morris.
0:26:54 > 0:26:57- At one time, Clive was saying, - "Look at him."
0:26:58 > 0:27:01- Dai was like this. - "That's what it means to him."
0:27:01 > 0:27:04- Dai was listening to a horse race!
0:27:05 > 0:27:07- Grav, of course, was on his own.
0:27:09 > 0:27:12- Punching the wall, - punching the boys.
0:27:13 > 0:27:16- "Alright, alright. Carlo! Carlo!"
0:27:18 > 0:27:21- I remember, - Gerald would be sitting down...
0:27:22 > 0:27:24- ..in the changing room.
0:27:24 > 0:27:29- "Do you think if the opposition - could see us in here...
0:27:30 > 0:27:32- "..do you think - they'd be scared of us?"
0:27:33 > 0:27:37- In the changing room it was easy - to talk and motivate him.
0:27:37 > 0:27:40- Barry would be asleep - in the corner.
0:27:40 > 0:27:41- So he says.
0:27:41 > 0:27:46- But Gareth was fire and brimstone.
0:27:46 > 0:27:51- And then the door would open and - Clive Rowlands would be behind us.
0:27:51 > 0:27:54- "Go out there and do it - for your family.
0:27:54 > 0:27:56- "Heart, family. Heart, heart."
0:27:58 > 0:27:59- "Yes, Clive."
0:27:59 > 0:28:01- John Taylor.
0:28:02 > 0:28:04- Phil Bennett. Edwards.
0:28:06 > 0:28:09- Despite the fame, - he had to earn a crust.
0:28:09 > 0:28:12- He worked as a salesman - for Dynevor Engineering.
0:28:15 > 0:28:18- That's what people today - can't understand.
0:28:18 > 0:28:21- You had to spend time working - not just playing rugby.
0:28:22 > 0:28:23- That was the norm.
0:28:24 > 0:28:26- I was teaching - and playing for Wales.
0:28:26 > 0:28:30- Those were the rules and it was - the same across the world...
0:28:30 > 0:28:32- ..apart from New Zealand - and South Africa.
0:28:33 > 0:28:35- And he went to the other side - of the world...
0:28:35 > 0:28:40- ..where he successfully starred - for the Lions in '71 and '74.
0:28:41 > 0:28:44- COMMENTARY:- Gareth Edwards. - That's a good dummy.
0:28:44 > 0:28:47- What a magnificent run this is. - That was genius.
0:28:49 > 0:28:52- Gareth Edwards was now - a husband and father...
0:28:53 > 0:28:55- ..as well as being an - international icon.
0:28:56 > 0:28:59- But wearing different hats - could be challenging.
0:28:59 > 0:29:01- I cheat, I cheat a lot.
0:29:02 > 0:29:04- I didn't make this bread, - I bought it.
0:29:04 > 0:29:06- That's what the children like.
0:29:06 > 0:29:08- They love this olive bread.
0:29:09 > 0:29:12- I'd never heard of such a thing - when I was growing up.
0:29:12 > 0:29:16- They like different things - these days.
0:29:22 > 0:29:24- Gareth's away.
0:29:25 > 0:29:29- He's here when the children are - here, he likes to be here then.
0:29:29 > 0:29:32- But he can't be here tonight, - he's travelling.
0:29:33 > 0:29:35- I realize that it was hard - at times...
0:29:35 > 0:29:38- ..especially when the children - were small...
0:29:38 > 0:29:42- ..and to get them off - to school and things like that.
0:29:42 > 0:29:45- I'd come back but - then I'd have to leave again.
0:29:45 > 0:29:47- I could be away for a week.
0:29:47 > 0:29:49- Well, when we were first married...
0:29:49 > 0:29:52- ..I was away for three months - with the Lions.
0:29:52 > 0:29:53- That's very hard.
0:29:54 > 0:29:56- I was still in the hospital - with Owen...
0:29:57 > 0:30:00- ..and he went off for three months - with the Lions.
0:30:00 > 0:30:03- That's how it was - and you had to accept it.
0:30:03 > 0:30:05- That was it.
0:30:05 > 0:30:10- I came home with this new baby - and I was very upset.
0:30:10 > 0:30:12- Luckily my sister was there - and she said...
0:30:12 > 0:30:15- "Stop your nonsense, - he's not dead."
0:30:16 > 0:30:18- OK, good point.
0:30:18 > 0:30:21- Gareth, you've been met - at Heathrow by your wife.
0:30:21 > 0:30:23- I bet you're dying to see - your baby son.
0:30:24 > 0:30:27- Yes. He was only four or five days - old when I left the country.
0:30:27 > 0:30:31- At the time, when we were out - with the Lions...
0:30:31 > 0:30:34- ..it was two-and-a-half months, - maybe three months.
0:30:34 > 0:30:39- It was important that you had - understanding employers...
0:30:40 > 0:30:41- ..who'd give you the time off.
0:30:42 > 0:30:45- As well as that, - which was just as important...
0:30:45 > 0:30:48- ..was to have support from - the family, your wife...
0:30:48 > 0:30:51- ..so you could follow your career.
0:30:51 > 0:30:53- Talk of the devil.
0:30:54 > 0:30:55- Hello, love.
0:30:58 > 0:31:00- You've just disturbed the filming.
0:31:00 > 0:31:03- Have I really? Have I spoiled it?
0:31:03 > 0:31:05- Yes, you've spoiled it.
0:31:08 > 0:31:11- To think what you went through, - you'd go on tour for months.
0:31:12 > 0:31:14- I don't think I could handle that, - that's crazy.
0:31:14 > 0:31:17- Being away from your family - for so long.
0:31:17 > 0:31:21- And ten shillings. You don't - remember what shillings were!
0:31:21 > 0:31:25- About 50 pence a week and as much - beer as you could drink mind.
0:31:25 > 0:31:26- Brilliant.
0:31:29 > 0:31:33- Yeah. No, huge respect for you guys - who were juggling a job...
0:31:34 > 0:31:36- ..as well as playing.
0:31:36 > 0:31:40- When you'd go on tour you'd be away - for months rather than weeks.
0:31:40 > 0:31:43- We find it hard when we're away - for three or four weeks.
0:31:44 > 0:31:47- In the 12 years I played, I think - there was only one year...
0:31:47 > 0:31:49- ..when I didn't go on tour.
0:31:49 > 0:31:52- I'd hate to think I missed - out on a lot.
0:31:53 > 0:31:56- But I don't want you to believe - I'd change anything.
0:31:56 > 0:32:00- No, because I've been very happy - and I've been very lucky.
0:32:01 > 0:32:03- I would never want to change - anything.
0:32:03 > 0:32:06- We had a great time.
0:32:08 > 0:32:10- That time was special...
0:32:10 > 0:32:14- ..because I was such - good friends with the other women.
0:32:14 > 0:32:19- And then when they were older, - Gareth never went to PTA meetings.
0:32:19 > 0:32:23- I did everything. - And that's how it was then.
0:32:23 > 0:32:26- Your mother's coming later.
0:32:28 > 0:32:32- Success with the Lions, more than - 50 caps for his country...
0:32:32 > 0:32:36- ..hardly any injuries and an MBE - hanging around his neck.
0:32:36 > 0:32:39- Why would anyone want to end - all of that?
0:32:41 > 0:32:45- Usually, when players retired like - Gareth, like Phil Bennett...
0:32:45 > 0:32:48- ..you had to think about the years - ahead of you.
0:32:48 > 0:32:51- You had your family, a mortgage, - a car to run.
0:32:51 > 0:32:54- So that's why people retired...
0:32:54 > 0:32:57- ..when they turned 30 or 32.
0:32:57 > 0:33:00- You had to concentrate on the rest - of your life.
0:33:02 > 0:33:06- He'd done what he'd set out to do, - play for Wales and be successful.
0:33:06 > 0:33:08- Play for the Lions - and be successful.
0:33:09 > 0:33:13- He started his career for Wales - in 1967 and finished in 1978.
0:33:13 > 0:33:16- That's a long time.
0:33:16 > 0:33:20- There were lots of games to - be played...
0:33:20 > 0:33:22- ..to his high standards.
0:33:23 > 0:33:25- March 1978.
0:33:25 > 0:33:28- Over a decade since his first cap.
0:33:28 > 0:33:30- Once again, the opponents - were France...
0:33:31 > 0:33:34- ..with their influential flanker, - Jean-Pierre Rives.
0:33:34 > 0:33:36- There was a Grand Slam to be won...
0:33:36 > 0:33:38- There was a Grand Slam to be won...- - Edwards with a drop goal.
0:33:38 > 0:33:41- ..but Gareth had other matters - on his mind.
0:33:41 > 0:33:44- Jean-Pierre said, - "Gareth, today was your day."
0:33:44 > 0:33:48- He put his arm round me, - he was pleased for me.
0:33:48 > 0:33:53- And he said, "But maybe next year - in Paris, it will be mine."
0:33:53 > 0:33:56- And at that moment I thought, - will there be a next year?
0:33:56 > 0:33:59- That's when I started to realize - this could be the end.
0:34:00 > 0:34:02- Gareth Edwards has done it - once more.
0:34:02 > 0:34:04- Jean-Pierre was right.
0:34:04 > 0:34:08- France would win the Grand Slam - the following year...
0:34:08 > 0:34:11- ..but without the presence - of Gareth Edwards.
0:34:13 > 0:34:17- After further consideration he - decided to retire from the game.
0:34:19 > 0:34:22- What do you want to see?
0:34:22 > 0:34:25- There are pictures of fish - all over the place.
0:34:26 > 0:34:27- This room is so messy.
0:34:27 > 0:34:30- This room is so messy.- - Do you want to move some of it?
0:34:30 > 0:34:32- Let them see how messy you are.
0:34:32 > 0:34:34- Let them see how messy you are.- - That was a 45 pounder.
0:34:35 > 0:34:37- But someone's beaten that record.
0:34:37 > 0:34:39- By about half a pound.
0:34:41 > 0:34:44- Back at a time with the miners.
0:34:44 > 0:34:48- You can see how much it meant - to the miners.
0:34:48 > 0:34:51- I don't think those places - exist any more.
0:34:53 > 0:34:55- That was down in Neath.
0:34:55 > 0:34:58- I remember walking - into the Cardiff club...
0:34:59 > 0:35:02- ..one of the men who welcomed us - at the door said...
0:35:02 > 0:35:05- .."Congratulations, Sir Gareth."
0:35:06 > 0:35:08- I said, "Thanks."
0:35:08 > 0:35:12- And he said, "But you'll always be - Gareth to us."
0:35:14 > 0:35:16- Don't think for a second - that I don't...
0:35:16 > 0:35:18- It's an incredible honour.
0:35:19 > 0:35:22- It's one I would have liked - when Mam and Dad were around.
0:35:23 > 0:35:26- It's hard to believe that a miner's - son from Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen...
0:35:27 > 0:35:29- ..received this honour.
0:35:30 > 0:35:31- .
0:35:33 > 0:35:34- Subtitles
0:35:39 > 0:35:41- A competitive nature.
0:35:42 > 0:35:44- It doesn't diminish with age.
0:35:44 > 0:35:47- Maybe the legs aren't as fast - as they once were...
0:35:48 > 0:35:50- ..but one sport - keeps the fire going.
0:35:53 > 0:35:57- A chance for the public to play - with sports stars, for a price.
0:35:57 > 0:35:59- The real reason?
0:35:59 > 0:36:04- You always try to win - but we just want some fun.
0:36:06 > 0:36:10- Maybe the dream of beating - Tiger Woods has disappeared...
0:36:10 > 0:36:13- ..but for those - who understand golf...
0:36:13 > 0:36:15- ..his handicap is less than ten.
0:36:15 > 0:36:17- He's a professional?
0:36:17 > 0:36:20- For the less informed, - that's a very high standard.
0:36:20 > 0:36:22- It's of competition standard.
0:36:23 > 0:36:24- Played golf with him a few times.
0:36:25 > 0:36:29- For a man of his stature who's done - everything there is in rugby...
0:36:29 > 0:36:32- ..he takes his golf more seriously - than anything else.
0:36:32 > 0:36:35- You think he'd take his foot - off the gas a bit but no chance.
0:36:36 > 0:36:39- Very competitive, very skilful, - great fun to play with too.
0:36:45 > 0:36:48- It wasn't a popular game - in the Valleys.
0:36:49 > 0:36:51- Even though I went away to school - in Millfield...
0:36:52 > 0:36:55- ..I wish I had learned - a bit more about it.
0:36:55 > 0:36:59- When I was playing, when I went - away with the Lions...
0:37:00 > 0:37:03- ..for a long time, you were out - in South Africa...
0:37:03 > 0:37:08- ..and you had an opportunity during - the day to play the best courses...
0:37:09 > 0:37:11- ..that's where I started to play.
0:37:13 > 0:37:15- After retiring from rugby...
0:37:16 > 0:37:19- ..it's a chance to be competitive.
0:37:19 > 0:37:21- The adrenalin rush is still there.
0:37:22 > 0:37:25- We still want to do our best.
0:37:25 > 0:37:28- We want to play our best - and try to beat our friends.
0:37:31 > 0:37:34- If you play well, - all he does is complain.
0:37:34 > 0:37:37- If you lose your ball, - he doesn't look for it.
0:37:37 > 0:37:39- If he loses it, we look for it - for ten minutes!
0:37:40 > 0:37:43- That's how competitive he is. - He wants to win everything.
0:37:43 > 0:37:45- But no, I think we should - all be like that.
0:37:45 > 0:37:48- Of course, there's a lesson - as well.
0:37:48 > 0:37:53- Every time you think you're at your - best and you're playing well...
0:37:53 > 0:37:58- ..he lets you know, hey, you're not - as good as you think you are.
0:37:59 > 0:38:01- He always shows you up, - every now and again.
0:38:01 > 0:38:03- Yes?
0:38:06 > 0:38:08- Oh, Duw, Duw, Duw, Duw!
0:38:16 > 0:38:20- There's no celebration today - but with the competition over...
0:38:21 > 0:38:24- ..it's time to meet old friends - and share stories.
0:38:24 > 0:38:26- There are always stories.
0:38:27 > 0:38:29- The first try I remember - as a boy...
0:38:29 > 0:38:33- ..I was sitting with Auntie Nans - in Mam-gu's front room...
0:38:33 > 0:38:37- ..and I think you scored a try in - the corner against South Africa.
0:38:37 > 0:38:39- When was that? Sixty...
0:38:39 > 0:38:41- Oh, yes. '69, yes.
0:38:41 > 0:38:44- '69, was it? That's the first - try I saw on television.
0:38:44 > 0:38:45- In the mud.
0:38:46 > 0:38:49- I was covered in mud. - You couldn't tell the difference...
0:38:49 > 0:38:51- You scored a try - in the left corner.
0:38:51 > 0:38:54- That's the first try I ever saw - on television.
0:38:54 > 0:38:56- And you know what?
0:38:56 > 0:38:58- It's strange, I did something - that day...
0:38:58 > 0:39:01- ..and I don't think anyone's - picked up on it since.
0:39:01 > 0:39:04- I was with the people - I worked with...
0:39:04 > 0:39:06- ..I was working full-time - of course...
0:39:06 > 0:39:11- ..and we went to the International - Nickel Company in Mond in Clydach.
0:39:11 > 0:39:15- We were in the drawing office - and one of the boys said to me...
0:39:15 > 0:39:19- .."You know, if you score - on Saturday...
0:39:19 > 0:39:23- .."will you go like this so that - I know you're doing it for me?"
0:39:23 > 0:39:25- And that's what you did!
0:39:25 > 0:39:29- I did it. I was walking back and - I thought, "Why did I do that?"
0:39:29 > 0:39:31- But the chap in Mond, well...
0:39:31 > 0:39:35- ..he's dined out on it ever since!
0:39:38 > 0:39:42- And that's the essence of a career - - stories and experiences.
0:39:42 > 0:39:44- And although the games - are now memories...
0:39:45 > 0:39:48- ..those memories are beneficial - in business even today...
0:39:48 > 0:39:52- ..from his first job with the - Dynevor Engineering Company...
0:39:52 > 0:39:54- ..to his various businesses today.
0:39:54 > 0:39:57- It's a wonder that - it's still there!
0:39:57 > 0:40:01- That's an iconic photo, - I would have thought.
0:40:01 > 0:40:05- Once I finished playing, - what I didn't have of course...
0:40:05 > 0:40:10- ..was the pressure of playing - the sport and having to work.
0:40:10 > 0:40:13- I used my fame to get through - the door, to sell the wares.
0:40:14 > 0:40:16- That's what it was, in a way.
0:40:17 > 0:40:20- We had a network of people we knew - all over the place.
0:40:21 > 0:40:24- But of course, - as you got more famous...
0:40:24 > 0:40:26- ..you could go outside that...
0:40:26 > 0:40:30- ..and you'd go in and meet people - from big companies.
0:40:30 > 0:40:32- I'd go to a dinner or something - and say...
0:40:33 > 0:40:36- .."Here's my card, - come and see me."
0:40:36 > 0:40:40- The relationship with the customer - is crucial. In life in general.
0:40:40 > 0:40:43- The world revolves - around relationships.
0:40:43 > 0:40:46- But that's what Gareth could do - very effectively...
0:40:46 > 0:40:50- ..because of his personality, - the way he was brought up...
0:40:50 > 0:40:52- ..and his circle of friends.
0:40:52 > 0:40:55- At the end of the day, - you had to have a message...
0:40:55 > 0:40:58- ..and you had to have something - which would sell.
0:40:58 > 0:41:00- You had to do your job in the end.
0:41:03 > 0:41:05- The rules of the amateur game...
0:41:05 > 0:41:08- ..meant that you couldn't make - any money from the game...
0:41:08 > 0:41:10- ..even from writing a book.
0:41:10 > 0:41:13- When he published his - autobiography...
0:41:14 > 0:41:16- ..he had to take advantage - of his fame.
0:41:16 > 0:41:19- Good evening and welcome to a - new series of Question of Sport.
0:41:20 > 0:41:21- We have two new captains.
0:41:22 > 0:41:24- From soccer, the captain - of England, Emlyn Hughes.
0:41:25 > 0:41:28- And from rugby union, - British Lion Gareth Edwards...
0:41:28 > 0:41:30- ..the most famous scrum-half - in the world...
0:41:31 > 0:41:33- ..holder of a record number of caps - for Wales...
0:41:33 > 0:41:36- ..and scorer of a record number - of tries.
0:41:36 > 0:41:38- The programme taught me a lot.
0:41:38 > 0:41:41- You had to think under pressure, - use a bit of humour.
0:41:41 > 0:41:45- It was competitive. - Emlyn always wanted to win.
0:41:46 > 0:41:48- And I always wanted to win.
0:41:48 > 0:41:52- You might have recognized him - better if he was wearing a hat.
0:41:52 > 0:41:54- If he's wearing a hat, Robin Hood!
0:41:55 > 0:41:57- Are you going to stick with that?
0:41:58 > 0:42:01- It's as good a guess as his!
0:42:01 > 0:42:03- I thought it was difficult.
0:42:03 > 0:42:07- I realized that when you - went outside Wales...
0:42:07 > 0:42:10- ..you became more popular - around the country.
0:42:10 > 0:42:13- Some of them knew I'd played rugby - but I saw a big difference...
0:42:14 > 0:42:16- ..when I went on Question of Sport.
0:42:16 > 0:42:19- You don't see yourself as - being different to anyone.
0:42:19 > 0:42:23- I had a strong enough family - at home.
0:42:23 > 0:42:29- They'd never ever let you think - that you were something different.
0:42:29 > 0:42:33- At the end of the day, when I went - back to Gwaun-Cae-Gurwen...
0:42:33 > 0:42:37- ..my mother still lived there, - and my friends would say...
0:42:37 > 0:42:39- .."Gar, I saw you on - Question of Sport.
0:42:40 > 0:42:42- "You didn't know that answer, - did you?"
0:42:43 > 0:42:46- They always wanted to bring you - down if you'd forgotten something.
0:42:47 > 0:42:49- That's what friends - are supposed to do.
0:42:49 > 0:42:54- Put you in your place and make sure - you remember where you come from.
0:42:55 > 0:43:00- But even today, decades after - the Question of Sport days...
0:43:00 > 0:43:03- ..if you're holding an event - and need a big name...
0:43:03 > 0:43:07- ..Sir Gareth Edwards - is the first on the list.
0:43:10 > 0:43:13- I played for Swansea Youth - before I went to Millfield.
0:43:14 > 0:43:18- When I finished playing and - John came down to the Swans...
0:43:19 > 0:43:23- ..down to the Vetch, he asked me - to play for the second team.
0:43:23 > 0:43:26- I played several games - and enjoyed it very much.
0:43:27 > 0:43:31- The only thing I would have - liked to have seen him do...
0:43:31 > 0:43:34- ..was to play a few more games - for Cardiff than he did.
0:43:34 > 0:43:37- I think he used to just, with - a little bit of a twinge...
0:43:38 > 0:43:40- ..pull out now and again, you know.
0:43:40 > 0:43:43- Particularly before a big - rugby international.
0:43:43 > 0:43:47- Well, Tosh, you know, there's - only so many games in you!
0:43:47 > 0:43:48- I know he did...
0:43:49 > 0:43:52- ..because I used to have to do - the same kind of thing myself!
0:43:55 > 0:43:58- I think it was a bigger thing - for us to play with you.
0:44:00 > 0:44:03- He became obviously - a figure in sport.
0:44:03 > 0:44:05- He became a television star.
0:44:05 > 0:44:07- He became a man who could...
0:44:07 > 0:44:12- ..connect to just about everybody - in sport and across sport.
0:44:12 > 0:44:16- To be generous with your spirit, - to understand people...
0:44:16 > 0:44:18- ..that's the sign of greatness.
0:44:18 > 0:44:21- And to be consistent - in the way that you behave.
0:44:21 > 0:44:24- That's why they've been - able to connect with him...
0:44:24 > 0:44:27- ..because he is naturally decent, - naturally great.
0:44:27 > 0:44:30- And to get decent and great - in the same sentence...
0:44:30 > 0:44:33- ..isn't always possible - with sports stars.
0:44:33 > 0:44:37- But Sir Gareth doesn't only give - his time to the rich and famous.
0:44:37 > 0:44:41- Hand in hand with the commercial - work comes the charity work...
0:44:42 > 0:44:44- ..and raising money.
0:44:44 > 0:44:47- We were raising money - for the Urdd Eisteddfod.
0:44:47 > 0:44:50- I phoned Gareth and asked him - if he'd attend a dinner.
0:44:51 > 0:44:55- Without a second thought he said, - "Yes, don't worry, I'll be there."
0:44:55 > 0:45:00- And he came of course and it - allowed me to invite...
0:45:01 > 0:45:03- ..some people who were - quite wealthy...
0:45:03 > 0:45:08- ..and who were eager - to meet Gareth.
0:45:08 > 0:45:11- And we had a very - successful night.
0:45:12 > 0:45:13- He gets the attention...
0:45:14 > 0:45:17- ..because he's the best player - the world has ever seen.
0:45:17 > 0:45:19- You can't say anything better - than that.
0:45:21 > 0:45:25- And I'm happy enough - to say that every time.
0:45:26 > 0:45:28- There's no doubt that he's - one of the best players...
0:45:29 > 0:45:30- ..ever to have played the game.
0:45:31 > 0:45:34- But what stands out the most - is that he's a very nice bloke.
0:45:34 > 0:45:36- That's close enough, Tina!
0:45:38 > 0:45:40- It is difficult.
0:45:40 > 0:45:43- It is difficult to live - with someone...
0:45:43 > 0:45:47- ..who's so active and highly... - What do you call it?
0:45:47 > 0:45:50- He doesn't stop. - But I'm used to it.
0:45:51 > 0:45:54- Just think. - Let's save the males in Wales.
0:45:54 > 0:45:57- His character is different to - everyone else's, I suppose.
0:45:58 > 0:46:00- It can be difficult.
0:46:00 > 0:46:02- But I'm used to it.
0:46:02 > 0:46:04- Yes.
0:46:04 > 0:46:08- I don't take selfies, do I? I don't - let anybody take selfies of me.
0:46:09 > 0:46:12- I've said it several times, - when people say...
0:46:12 > 0:46:15- .."You work too hard - and you do this and that"...
0:46:15 > 0:46:17- ..I say it was Dad who worked hard.
0:46:18 > 0:46:21- He got up at 4.30am - to work a morning shift.
0:46:21 > 0:46:25- He sometimes worked three shifts, - one straight after the other...
0:46:25 > 0:46:27- ..if he got the chance - to earn a bit more money.
0:46:28 > 0:46:31- That's what I call hard work, - working underground.
0:46:31 > 0:46:33- What I do isn't hard work.
0:46:33 > 0:46:35- It takes up your time, yes...
0:46:35 > 0:46:38- ..but one day nobody will want - you to come and do something.
0:46:39 > 0:46:42- The calls will stop and they'll - say, "Who? When did he play?"
0:46:42 > 0:46:45- COMMENTARY:- This is Gareth Edwards! - A dramatic start!
0:46:45 > 0:46:48- What a score!
0:46:48 > 0:46:50- Who's the boss? Who do you think?!
0:46:52 > 0:46:54- There's no point answering then, - is there?
0:46:54 > 0:46:57- Erm, yes. She tells me - what to do every day.
0:46:57 > 0:47:00- Mind you, that doesn't mean - he listens!
0:47:02 > 0:47:05- You don't always listen - to what I tell you.
0:47:05 > 0:47:06- Erm...
0:47:06 > 0:47:08- Well, no.
0:47:09 > 0:47:13- I don't know what the future - holds for us.
0:47:13 > 0:47:15- I hope we'll be healthy...
0:47:16 > 0:47:19- ..that we'll still be able to do - what we like to do.
0:47:19 > 0:47:20- Erm...
0:47:20 > 0:47:23- You know, if I can keep walking...
0:47:24 > 0:47:26- ..and stay healthy physically...
0:47:26 > 0:47:29- ..I'll keep going - for as long as I can.
0:47:30 > 0:47:32- You have to put him in his place - sometimes...
0:47:32 > 0:47:34- ..because he doesn't stop.
0:47:35 > 0:47:38- You were born different - to everyone else.
0:47:38 > 0:47:40- The only thing I'm sorry about...
0:47:41 > 0:47:44- ..is that he hasn't taken - any interest in the garden.
0:47:44 > 0:47:47- He won't do anything in the garden. - He has no idea.
0:47:48 > 0:47:51- But I'm the Honorary President of - the Botanic Gardens in Carmarthen.
0:47:52 > 0:47:54- You don't know the name - of one flower, do you?
0:47:55 > 0:47:57- And what are you president of?!
0:47:57 > 0:48:00- I'm starting to get worn out. - I need more help.
0:48:00 > 0:48:02- I'll get you some help!
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