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0:00:19 > 0:00:22- I'm Nia Marshalsay-Thomas - and I love horses.
0:00:23 > 0:00:27- I'm pleased to say that I'm going - on an exciting equine journey...
0:00:27 > 0:00:30- ..in this edition of Ceffylau Cymru.
0:00:32 > 0:00:38- This week, we meet top breeders - Ron and Debbie Thomas.
0:00:39 > 0:00:44- I seek the equine secrets - that are crucial to their success.
0:00:44 > 0:00:49- We glimpse the worlds of training, - trading, and competing...
0:00:49 > 0:00:54- ..and one girl's journey to the - world's most famous horse show.
0:00:56 > 0:01:00- This isn't my first visit - to see Ron and Debbie.
0:01:00 > 0:01:04- I worked here full-time - after leaving university.
0:01:04 > 0:01:07- After a year here, - I didn't want to leave.
0:01:07 > 0:01:09- I felt like part of the family.
0:01:09 > 0:01:14- I can't wait to spend time with Ron - and Debbie over the coming weeks.
0:01:23 > 0:01:25- Money doesn't come into it.
0:01:26 > 0:01:28- Your heart - tells you to do it, really.
0:01:29 > 0:01:32- Even at the age I am now, - I still want to win.
0:01:33 > 0:01:37- Winning the rosette at HOYS, - and this sounds stupid...
0:01:37 > 0:01:40- ..is more important - than selling the horse.
0:01:41 > 0:01:45- This series focuses on horses - and horse people.
0:01:46 > 0:01:50- Horses are in Ron Thomas's blood, - his heart and his soul.
0:01:50 > 0:01:52- He and his wife Debbie...
0:01:52 > 0:01:56- ..have won dozens of times at HOYS, - the Horse Of The Year Show...
0:01:57 > 0:02:00- ..and at the Royal - International Show.
0:02:00 > 0:02:06- In 2005, they won six times at HOYS, - a record for a single show.
0:02:07 > 0:02:10- Have you always - been interested in horses?
0:02:10 > 0:02:12- Yes, since I was a young boy.
0:02:12 > 0:02:14- What's your first memory?
0:02:15 > 0:02:19- I was raised on a farm, - but we didn't have horses.
0:02:19 > 0:02:23- I wanted to keep horses, - but my mother wouldn't have it.
0:02:23 > 0:02:27- She said we'd make more money - from cattle than horses.
0:02:27 > 0:02:30- There was a blacksmith's nearby.
0:02:30 > 0:02:32- When horses went to be shod...
0:02:32 > 0:02:35- ..I'd sit on the milk stand - watching them...
0:02:35 > 0:02:38- ..and wait there - for them to come back.
0:02:38 > 0:02:42- Because I didn't have any then, - the urge to keep them grew stronger.
0:02:43 > 0:02:46- You keep horses now. - What exactly do you do?
0:02:46 > 0:02:51- What we try to do - is buy them in as three-year-olds.
0:02:51 > 0:02:55- If they do as well as we expect...
0:02:55 > 0:02:59- ..we sell them on - or compete with them at shows.
0:02:59 > 0:03:00- Essentially, you buy to sell.
0:03:00 > 0:03:03- Essentially, you buy to sell.- - More accurately, I buy to win.
0:03:05 > 0:03:06- You have had a lot of success.
0:03:07 > 0:03:10- Everyone in Wales, - at the end of the day...
0:03:10 > 0:03:13- ..wants to win - at the Royal Welsh Show.
0:03:13 > 0:03:18- But further afield, they want to win - at the Horse Of The Year Show.
0:03:20 > 0:03:25- Debbie clearly plays - a major part in the process.
0:03:25 > 0:03:31- After I buy them, she's the one - who takes care of them.
0:03:32 > 0:03:36- She's lucky, - because she's so small and light...
0:03:36 > 0:03:39- ..that she can ride - the smaller horses.
0:03:40 > 0:03:44- She hasn't done much else - apart from work with horses.
0:03:44 > 0:03:46- She's had a charmed life.
0:03:46 > 0:03:49- Working with horses - is all she wanted to do.
0:03:50 > 0:03:53- It's important to do something - that you enjoy.
0:03:53 > 0:03:56- You always enjoy something - if you win.
0:03:57 > 0:03:59- As renowned breeders...
0:04:00 > 0:04:04- ..Ron and Debbie each bring - their own skills to the partnership.
0:04:04 > 0:04:07- Debbie trains the horses - and the jockeys...
0:04:08 > 0:04:11- ..including some big names - down the years.
0:04:11 > 0:04:16- She's among the best and most - highly respected in the business.
0:04:16 > 0:04:20- Having had lessons with you, - I've felt the benefit of it.
0:04:20 > 0:04:23- I can see the difference - that it makes.
0:04:23 > 0:04:26- You've taught - quite a few well-known jockeys.
0:04:26 > 0:04:30- I had Charlotte Dujardin here - for a couple of seasons.
0:04:30 > 0:04:34- Young Nick Scholfield, - who is now very successful.
0:04:34 > 0:04:37- He rides chasers for Paul Nicholls.
0:04:37 > 0:04:40- Gemma Rees, as she is now.
0:04:41 > 0:04:42- She was Gemma James.
0:04:42 > 0:04:44- Yes, some really good people.
0:04:45 > 0:04:47- Who would you say was the boss, - you or Ron?
0:04:48 > 0:04:50- Ooh...
0:04:50 > 0:04:52- Ron's not here, so I'll say me!
0:04:58 > 0:05:03- One talented young member of Ron - and Debbie's team is Libby Grota.
0:05:03 > 0:05:05- She has competed at HOYS many times.
0:05:06 > 0:05:09- Winning the championship - at the 2016 Royal Welsh Show...
0:05:09 > 0:05:13- ..sealed qualification - for HOYS once again...
0:05:13 > 0:05:15- ..and she's still only eleven.
0:05:15 > 0:05:17- When did you start riding?
0:05:17 > 0:05:22- I started riding - when I was three years old.
0:05:23 > 0:05:26- I've been doing it...
0:05:27 > 0:05:29- ..almost every day ever since!
0:05:30 > 0:05:33- What was so special about horses?
0:05:33 > 0:05:39- Well, I ride - four or five days every week.
0:05:40 > 0:05:44- I do a lot of things...
0:05:45 > 0:05:47- ..like hacking...
0:05:48 > 0:05:51- ..a bit of dressage and showing.
0:05:53 > 0:05:59- I also like galloping - along the beach.
0:06:01 > 0:06:04- Do you see Libby as - an excellent jockey for the future?
0:06:05 > 0:06:09- Oh, yes, she's a potential - little superstar, she is.
0:06:10 > 0:06:12- She's a very good jockey.
0:06:12 > 0:06:15- She's also got great charisma.
0:06:15 > 0:06:19- When you're in the show ring, - it's a bit like being on stage.
0:06:19 > 0:06:21- She does rise to the occasion.
0:06:22 > 0:06:26- It's no good going in there - and being nervous, as you know.
0:06:26 > 0:06:30- Once she gets in there, - she loves it, and she loves to win.
0:06:31 > 0:06:34- Debbie has taught - a lot of famous people.
0:06:35 > 0:06:37- What do you hope to do - in the future?
0:06:37 > 0:06:41- I want to do dressage...
0:06:41 > 0:06:45- ..and go to the Olympics, - like Charlotte Dujardin.
0:06:45 > 0:06:48- Well, you've got the right teacher.
0:06:49 > 0:06:50- Yes.
0:06:50 > 0:06:53- Same thing on this rein, Libby, - nice and straight.
0:06:54 > 0:06:57- Libby's preparing - for the Horse Of The Year Show.
0:06:58 > 0:07:00- Do you think she's talented?
0:07:00 > 0:07:02- Without a shadow of a doubt.
0:07:03 > 0:07:08- For her age, she's way ahead - of any other child.
0:07:08 > 0:07:11- She's a little girl - who doesn't lose very often.
0:07:12 > 0:07:14- She wins more than she loses.
0:07:15 > 0:07:16- She has determination.
0:07:17 > 0:07:20- Of all the children - we've had down the years...
0:07:21 > 0:07:23- ..she's as good as any of them.
0:07:23 > 0:07:26- She has terrific determination.
0:07:26 > 0:07:30- How does Libby deal - with the pressure of competing?
0:07:30 > 0:07:32- As long as she wins, she's fine!
0:07:36 > 0:07:39- You've had a lot - of very successful riders.
0:07:39 > 0:07:41- How does Libby compare with them?
0:07:42 > 0:07:45- She's as good, if not better, - than any of them.
0:07:46 > 0:07:49- We're talking - about Charlotte Dujardin...
0:07:49 > 0:07:53- ..who was here and who has won - at the highest level.
0:07:53 > 0:07:56- She had an exceptional will to win.
0:07:56 > 0:07:58- Libby is exceptional.
0:07:59 > 0:08:00- All they need then...
0:08:00 > 0:08:05- ..is the break when they move on - from ponies to horses.
0:08:05 > 0:08:07- A lot of people find...
0:08:08 > 0:08:12- ..that they don't want - to go down the road of dressage.
0:08:12 > 0:08:17- But if Libby does it, - she will be a winner.
0:08:20 > 0:08:23- Enjoying success at major shows - is one thing...
0:08:23 > 0:08:28- ..but it takes a lot of hard work - to get within reach of the prizes.
0:08:28 > 0:08:31- The first step is to buy a horse.
0:08:31 > 0:08:33- Let's discuss buying horses.
0:08:34 > 0:08:36- You hear that a horse is available.
0:08:37 > 0:08:38- What happens next?
0:08:39 > 0:08:40- Well, I always say this.
0:08:40 > 0:08:43- It's like looking - at a beautiful woman.
0:08:44 > 0:08:49- A good horse shows itself off - when you go into the field.
0:08:49 > 0:08:52- I don't want to see the horse - in the stable.
0:08:52 > 0:08:55- I want to see it trotting - and cantering in the field.
0:08:56 > 0:09:02- If it's a good horse, - I'll pick it up.
0:09:02 > 0:09:04- I'll see the things that matter.
0:09:04 > 0:09:08- The signs that it will turn out - to be a good horse.
0:09:08 > 0:09:10- I want a horse with presence.
0:09:11 > 0:09:15- If it has it, more often than not, - it'll do the job.
0:09:15 > 0:09:19- Can you spot a horse with potential - immediately?
0:09:19 > 0:09:21- The superstars are obvious.
0:09:22 > 0:09:23- Give me a week at home...
0:09:23 > 0:09:27- ..and I'll know if they're - top notches or just ordinary horses.
0:09:28 > 0:09:30- What do you look for in a horse?
0:09:30 > 0:09:33- Well, it must have four good legs.
0:09:33 > 0:09:39- We have bought several horses - where the legs turn a bit...
0:09:39 > 0:09:42- ..or they have lumps - on their legs...
0:09:43 > 0:09:46- ..or they have splints - or something on their hocks.
0:09:46 > 0:09:51- But most of the time, - I know that I can sort that out.
0:09:51 > 0:09:56- I can then buy a horse that's not - as expensive as it should be...
0:09:56 > 0:10:01- ..because people don't know - how to get rid of minor problems.
0:10:04 > 0:10:07- Ron has several horses - in training at the moment...
0:10:08 > 0:10:10- ..each with its own unique needs.
0:10:12 > 0:10:15- Small-land Playalong, - fresh from the field...
0:10:15 > 0:10:18- ..is about to start the journey - to the show.
0:10:18 > 0:10:21- What is remarkable - about this filly, Ron?
0:10:22 > 0:10:27- When you saw her in the stable, - she didn't look impressive at all.
0:10:27 > 0:10:31- But when she comes out, - you can see her legs working.
0:10:31 > 0:10:33- She's athletic.
0:10:33 > 0:10:38- If you see her under saddle in three - months, you won't recognize her.
0:10:38 > 0:10:41- You won't think - it's the same pony you first saw.
0:10:41 > 0:10:45- Will she stand out in the ring - when she competes?
0:10:45 > 0:10:47- She's different.
0:10:47 > 0:10:52- They're all browns and bay browns, - but this one's a grey.
0:10:52 > 0:10:54- She's a different colour.
0:10:55 > 0:10:57- I think she'll be - a good little pony.
0:10:59 > 0:11:03- There's another new horse - currently in training too.
0:11:03 > 0:11:05- A brown partbred.
0:11:06 > 0:11:10- Teach me what needs improving - on this horse.
0:11:11 > 0:11:13- There isn't a lot to improve...
0:11:13 > 0:11:16- ..but if you want to be fussy...
0:11:16 > 0:11:18- ..she's being shown in-hand.
0:11:18 > 0:11:22- Her back, from the shoulder down, - is a bit low.
0:11:22 > 0:11:26- I want these muscles - up about here...
0:11:26 > 0:11:27- ..right along to there.
0:11:28 > 0:11:32- The way we do that - is to work her fitted with a bit...
0:11:32 > 0:11:36- ..and encourage her to work - with her head down there.
0:11:36 > 0:11:42- When her head's down, these muscles - will work their way up.
0:11:42 > 0:11:45- That will give you - a good second thigh muscle.
0:11:45 > 0:11:49- And only specialist training - can make that difference?
0:11:49 > 0:11:53- Yes, because most people would keep - riding her with her head up.
0:11:54 > 0:11:57- The more her head's up, - the more her back will sag.
0:11:57 > 0:12:00- At a show, when you get marks - for the conformation...
0:12:01 > 0:12:02- ..she'd be marked down.
0:12:02 > 0:12:05- A higher back - will produce higher marks.
0:12:10 > 0:12:15- Do you get more pleasure - from improving the tougher horses?
0:12:15 > 0:12:17- Yes, but you know how it is.
0:12:18 > 0:12:23- Sometimes, when improving a horse - has been hard work...
0:12:23 > 0:12:27- ..you get more satisfaction - out of the job, ultimately.
0:12:32 > 0:12:36- You start off - thinking every one will work out.
0:12:36 > 0:12:42- But as the year goes on, - a lot of them fall by the wayside.
0:12:42 > 0:12:45- They're not quite what you want.
0:12:50 > 0:12:53- Obviously, - the longer you spend on them...
0:12:53 > 0:12:57- ..the more pleasure you get - if it works out ultimately.
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0:13:18 > 0:13:22- I'm back on the farm - with Ron and Debbie Thomas.
0:13:22 > 0:13:24- The training continues.
0:13:24 > 0:13:28- Of the horses we saw last time, - why didn't some work out?
0:13:28 > 0:13:33- You know, a horse is like a person.
0:13:33 > 0:13:36- They have a heart.
0:13:36 > 0:13:41- If their heart isn't in it, - whatever you do, you won't succeed.
0:13:43 > 0:13:45- The heart makes you smile.
0:13:45 > 0:13:47- If they won't smile, ultimately...
0:13:48 > 0:13:50- ..whatever you try, - it won't work out.
0:13:51 > 0:13:52- Is it disappointing...
0:13:52 > 0:13:56- ..when a horse fails to achieve - the potential you saw in it?
0:13:57 > 0:13:58- It's doubly disappointing...
0:13:59 > 0:14:02- ..in that respect - and because it hits my pocket!
0:14:02 > 0:14:04- There's a good boy.
0:14:04 > 0:14:09- Over the weeks, - the work is steady and detailed.
0:14:09 > 0:14:13- They sometimes call on - trainer Barry Thomas's expertise...
0:14:13 > 0:14:15- ..to break in the horses.
0:14:17 > 0:14:22- As well as the physical work, - the diet plays a key role too.
0:14:22 > 0:14:26- There was a time - when people used to say...
0:14:26 > 0:14:29- ..that 70% of the success - came from the manger.
0:14:30 > 0:14:33- Years ago, for a short while, - I was a policeman.
0:14:33 > 0:14:37- I went to a place in Johnstown - where an old chap reared Herefords.
0:14:38 > 0:14:40- His name was Shadrach.
0:14:40 > 0:14:41- He's probably dead now.
0:14:42 > 0:14:45- We were looking at the cattle...
0:14:45 > 0:14:50- ..and I asked him - how he got them into condition.
0:14:50 > 0:14:54- He told me that if you want - an animal with a big body...
0:14:54 > 0:14:55- ..you give it a lot of hay.
0:14:56 > 0:14:58- Lots of hay - makes it drink lots of water.
0:14:58 > 0:15:00- Water keeps its kidneys clean...
0:15:01 > 0:15:04- ..and gives a healthy animal - with tremendous depth.
0:15:04 > 0:15:10- If you want more muscle, - use solid feed instead of hay.
0:15:10 > 0:15:16- I've stayed two or three steps - ahead of a lot of people...
0:15:16 > 0:15:19- ..because of what he told me - that evening.
0:15:20 > 0:15:23- One horse we saw last time, - Small-land Playalong...
0:15:24 > 0:15:28- ..has certainly benefited - from the diet and training.
0:15:29 > 0:15:33- You saw a lot of potential - in this horse last time.
0:15:33 > 0:15:35- Do you still see it?
0:15:35 > 0:15:40- I do now, but at one time, - I wasn't sure she'd come through.
0:15:40 > 0:15:44- But she came again, - and I think she'll be very nice.
0:15:44 > 0:15:49- Once they start working with - the horse, what do you look for?
0:15:49 > 0:15:50- You want a wet mouth.
0:15:51 > 0:15:54- If the horse - is right in the brain...
0:15:54 > 0:15:57- ..it'll mouth nicely, as we say.
0:15:58 > 0:15:59- It's as if it slobbers.
0:16:00 > 0:16:03- A white froth - comes out of the mouth.
0:16:03 > 0:16:04- That's a good sign.
0:16:04 > 0:16:07- If the mouth's right, - the brain's right.
0:16:08 > 0:16:12- If the mouth isn't right, you're - hitting your head against a wall.
0:16:12 > 0:16:14- What's the next stage for the grey?
0:16:15 > 0:16:18- The grey has got everything.
0:16:18 > 0:16:20- We need to mature it now.
0:16:20 > 0:16:22- To get the body right and so on.
0:16:23 > 0:16:25- To carry on - as well as she is doing.
0:16:25 > 0:16:27- I believe now...
0:16:27 > 0:16:30- To be honest, - she has surprised us.
0:16:30 > 0:16:33- She has come on - better than we thought.
0:16:33 > 0:16:37- How much time does she need - before she competes?
0:16:37 > 0:16:42- As a four-year-old, - we won't take her to every show.
0:16:42 > 0:16:44- She'll have a couple of shows...
0:16:44 > 0:16:48- ..and will hopefully end up - at the Horse Of The Year Show.
0:16:48 > 0:16:52- With luck, I genuinely think - she's good enough to win it.
0:16:54 > 0:16:57- So far, we've seen - the training and the exercise...
0:16:57 > 0:17:02- ..and Ron has been kind enough - to share the odd secret with us.
0:17:02 > 0:17:04- But it all boils down to money.
0:17:04 > 0:17:07- What better shop window - for Ron and Debbie...
0:17:07 > 0:17:10- ..than the world's - most famous horse show?
0:17:12 > 0:17:15- The Horse Of The Year Show - in Birmingham...
0:17:16 > 0:17:18- ..is the climax - of the competition season.
0:17:20 > 0:17:23- There are over 1,500 horses - and riders...
0:17:23 > 0:17:25- ..and 65,000 visitors.
0:17:27 > 0:17:30- This is the climax - of a year's preparation...
0:17:30 > 0:17:34- ..for Libby - and her horse, Glebedale Jubilee.
0:17:36 > 0:17:39- Libby, we've made it - to the Horse Of The Year Show.
0:17:39 > 0:17:44- What makes competing at HOYS - different from other shows?
0:17:44 > 0:17:49- The atmosphere is very different.
0:17:50 > 0:17:54- It makes you more nervous, yes.
0:17:54 > 0:17:56- Are you feeling nervous now?
0:17:56 > 0:17:57- Are you feeling nervous now?- - A little bit.
0:17:58 > 0:18:00- How do you hope to get on today?
0:18:00 > 0:18:04- I'd like to get a placing...
0:18:04 > 0:18:10- ..but as long as it goes good, - I'll be happy.
0:18:22 > 0:18:25- Libby seems nervous - during the preparations.
0:18:25 > 0:18:29- A problem means that the bit - must be changed at the last minute.
0:18:30 > 0:18:32- They manage to do so just in time.
0:18:37 > 0:18:41- I've got an idea - how Libby will be feeling.
0:18:41 > 0:18:44- I've competed here - several times myself.
0:18:44 > 0:18:47- At the moment, - I'd be feeling a bit sick...
0:18:47 > 0:18:50- ..and worrying about anything - that could go wrong.
0:18:50 > 0:18:54- But Libby seems very cool, - and without a care in the world.
0:18:55 > 0:18:58- With Debbie's help, - I think she's ready to go.
0:18:59 > 0:19:02- Clearly, you know - how to prepare a winner.
0:19:02 > 0:19:04- You've won here many times before.
0:19:05 > 0:19:07- What is the secret of winning?
0:19:07 > 0:19:11- Well, you go into that ring - with no idea what will happen.
0:19:11 > 0:19:14- The atmosphere - is heightened in there...
0:19:14 > 0:19:19- ..and this little pony - is only four years old.
0:19:19 > 0:19:23- You just hope - that nothing will go wrong...
0:19:23 > 0:19:26- ..when she does what she has to do.
0:19:27 > 0:19:32- All I can do is keep my fingers - crossed and hope for the best.
0:19:39 > 0:19:41- She's walking away now.
0:19:42 > 0:19:43- Are you feeling nervous now?
0:19:43 > 0:19:45- Are you feeling nervous now?- - I am now, yes.
0:19:47 > 0:19:50- She has to trot in a circle here.
0:19:50 > 0:19:52- She looks fantastic, I must say.
0:19:55 > 0:19:58- She picked up the canter superbly.
0:19:58 > 0:20:01- She's galloping nice and quietly.
0:20:01 > 0:20:04- This is another circular canter.
0:20:04 > 0:20:05- This is another circular canter.- - Yes, that's right.
0:20:05 > 0:20:09- You can see - that Libby's trying really hard.
0:20:09 > 0:20:10- She's doing well.
0:20:13 > 0:20:15- OK, she keeps going past us.
0:20:15 > 0:20:18- She needs a nice trot to finish.
0:20:22 > 0:20:25- A trot now, then a walk.
0:20:26 > 0:20:28- She's showing the horse off nicely.
0:20:28 > 0:20:30- She's showing the horse off nicely.- - Yes, she's done a good job.
0:20:32 > 0:20:35- Libby has done her level best.
0:20:35 > 0:20:38- All she can do now - is wait for the result.
0:20:40 > 0:20:42- She's not third.
0:20:42 > 0:20:43- Oh!
0:20:43 > 0:20:46- Hopefully, - she'll be second or first.
0:20:56 > 0:20:57- TANNOY ANNOUNCEMENT
0:20:57 > 0:20:58- She did it!
0:21:01 > 0:21:04- She won! That's fantastic!
0:21:04 > 0:21:06- Really great. Fantastic.
0:21:06 > 0:21:07- Well done, Roy!
0:21:07 > 0:21:08- Well done, Roy!- - It's a good show!
0:21:10 > 0:21:11- It's amazing, really.
0:21:12 > 0:21:15- It feels the same as my first win, - 30 years or so ago.
0:21:15 > 0:21:17- You've won here several times.
0:21:17 > 0:21:20- Is it still special every time?
0:21:20 > 0:21:23- I didn't think winning - would mean so much...
0:21:23 > 0:21:26- ..but this feels very special.
0:21:26 > 0:21:27- Libby, congratulations.
0:21:27 > 0:21:28- Libby, congratulations.- - Thank you.
0:21:28 > 0:21:31- Well done. How do you feel?
0:21:31 > 0:21:33- I'm very happy and excited.
0:21:33 > 0:21:35- You looked very emotional.
0:21:35 > 0:21:36- Yes.
0:21:36 > 0:21:38- Have you dreamt about doing that?
0:21:38 > 0:21:39- Have you dreamt about doing that?- - Yes.
0:21:40 > 0:21:41- Very well done.
0:21:41 > 0:21:42- I've just won!
0:21:42 > 0:21:44- Are you celebrating, Debbie?
0:21:44 > 0:21:45- Are you celebrating, Debbie?- - I am, yes.
0:21:46 > 0:21:48- Absolutely fantastic.
0:21:48 > 0:21:49- How do you feel?
0:21:49 > 0:21:51- Absolutely thrilled to bits.
0:21:51 > 0:21:55- The little pony, four years old, - Libby's first win.
0:21:55 > 0:21:59- Her grandparents are here, - the breeder's here.
0:21:59 > 0:22:01- A fantastic feeling.
0:22:01 > 0:22:04- I always believed in the pony...
0:22:04 > 0:22:07- ..but it's all - got to come together on the day.
0:22:07 > 0:22:10- I'm relieved as well, - but yes, fabulous.
0:22:10 > 0:22:13- A great start to the week - and a sign of things to come.
0:22:13 > 0:22:15- Thank you very much, Nia.
0:22:24 > 0:22:26- Ron, I've enjoyed your company.
0:22:27 > 0:22:28- Was it nice to have me back?
0:22:28 > 0:22:29- Was it nice to have me back?- - It was marvellous.
0:22:29 > 0:22:32- There's a job here for you any time!
0:22:33 > 0:22:38- You may have had success at HOYS, - but everyday life carries on here.
0:22:38 > 0:22:41- It's less of an anticlimax - after HOYS...
0:22:41 > 0:22:44- ..because you're looking - for the next one.
0:22:44 > 0:22:49- You dedicate your life, really, - to finding more good ones.
0:22:53 > 0:22:56- What makes horses - so special for you?
0:22:56 > 0:23:01- You know, that question - is almost impossible to answer.
0:23:02 > 0:23:04- I was so obsessed - with horses as a boy.
0:23:05 > 0:23:08- I sat on that milk stand, watching - horses going to the forge...
0:23:08 > 0:23:12- ..and waited two or three hours - for them to pass back.
0:23:12 > 0:23:14- That's how obsessive - I was about horses.
0:23:17 > 0:23:20- Horses have taken us - all over the world, really.
0:23:21 > 0:23:24- Australia, America, New Zealand.
0:23:24 > 0:23:27- I can't think - what else I could have done...
0:23:28 > 0:23:31- ..that would have made me - so many friends.
0:23:32 > 0:23:37- I could never have dreamt - that we'd do what we have done.
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