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0:00:19 > 0:00:22- In this series, - we're very accustomed...
0:00:22 > 0:00:26- ..with seeing horses walking, - trotting and, sometimes, galloping.
0:00:27 > 0:00:31- This time, we'll see them jumping - - and, perhaps, I'll jump too.
0:00:31 > 0:00:33- Welcome to Ceffylau Cymru.
0:00:34 > 0:00:39- In this programme, we go behind the - scenes of the showjumping world...
0:00:40 > 0:00:42- ..with expert Eurig Eynon.
0:00:42 > 0:00:46- We'll look at the buying, - the selling and the training.
0:00:46 > 0:00:51- We also join young showjumper - Nia Williams in a competition...
0:00:51 > 0:00:55- ..and canter across the sea - to the Emerald Isle.
0:01:14 > 0:01:16- Our journey starts - on Eurig's farm...
0:01:16 > 0:01:19- ..in Llanvihangel Crucorney, - Monmouthshire.
0:01:20 > 0:01:22- Eurig, who hails from Cwm Gwaun...
0:01:22 > 0:01:27- ..has been riding and jumping horses - since he was a boy.
0:01:27 > 0:01:31- He has jumped for Wales and has won - at the Horse Of The Year Show.
0:01:32 > 0:01:34- He's a horse man - through and through.
0:01:37 > 0:01:40- My maternal grandfather kept horses.
0:01:40 > 0:01:45- I lived on the farm with him, - and he put me on a horse every day.
0:01:45 > 0:01:47- My interest grew from there.
0:01:49 > 0:01:52- How did you get into jumping?
0:01:53 > 0:01:56- I started jumping when I was seven.
0:01:57 > 0:01:58- It was my life.
0:02:00 > 0:02:03- I was lucky enough - to make the Wales team many times...
0:02:03 > 0:02:07- ..and to go to the - Horse Of The Year Show many times.
0:02:07 > 0:02:11- When I left school, I went to work - with the great John Whitaker.
0:02:12 > 0:02:14- You mentioned John Whitaker.
0:02:14 > 0:02:18- The Whitakers - are a famous showjumping family.
0:02:19 > 0:02:20- They're still at it.
0:02:20 > 0:02:23- John's still jumping - in his sixties.
0:02:23 > 0:02:24- Yes, a very famous family.
0:02:25 > 0:02:26- You learnt a lot there.
0:02:26 > 0:02:27- You learnt a lot there.- - Yes, a great deal.
0:02:28 > 0:02:29- I learnt about the job.
0:02:30 > 0:02:34- I was there for two years, and - should have stayed two more, maybe.
0:02:34 > 0:02:36- That's where you caught the bug.
0:02:36 > 0:02:37- That's where you caught the bug.- - Yes.
0:02:38 > 0:02:42- It's been in my blood since I was - a child, without a doubt.
0:02:43 > 0:02:46- Jumping, winning, competing.
0:02:47 > 0:02:49- It's just a huge buzz.
0:02:49 > 0:02:52- Do you consider yourself - a competitive person?
0:02:53 > 0:02:55- I'd have to say that I was.
0:02:56 > 0:02:59- Winning was quite a buzz.
0:02:59 > 0:03:02- Coming second or third - wasn't the same.
0:03:02 > 0:03:04- But that didn't happen often.
0:03:05 > 0:03:06- I wouldn't say that...
0:03:07 > 0:03:10- ..but it was a bit more special - to get a red rosette.
0:03:15 > 0:03:19- Eurig is taking a break - from competition at the moment.
0:03:19 > 0:03:24- Nowadays, he buys and trains horses, - specializing in jumpers...
0:03:25 > 0:03:28- ..aiming to sell them on - for a good price.
0:03:30 > 0:03:33- How do you make a living now, Eurig?
0:03:33 > 0:03:35- We train showjumpers.
0:03:35 > 0:03:40- I've got a girl riding here now, - so I don't jump as much myself.
0:03:41 > 0:03:44- We still bring on showjumpers - and sell them on.
0:03:44 > 0:03:46- How long does it take - to train a horse?
0:03:46 > 0:03:49- It's a lengthy process.
0:03:49 > 0:03:51- We buy them as young horses.
0:03:51 > 0:03:55- We'll sell some earlier than others.
0:03:55 > 0:03:59- We've had one or two - for three or four years.
0:03:59 > 0:04:02- Some will be sold within six months.
0:04:03 > 0:04:07- What have you learnt - about buying and selling?
0:04:09 > 0:04:13- Not every horse we buy - turns out to be a good one.
0:04:14 > 0:04:16- We have learnt a lot.
0:04:17 > 0:04:19- It's a matter of trial and error.
0:04:19 > 0:04:20- A bit of luck.
0:04:20 > 0:04:24- You must buy something you like, - but luck is involved too.
0:04:26 > 0:04:31- Emily Manieri from Italy is helping - Eurig to train the horse Popstar.
0:04:31 > 0:04:33- She also competes on his behalf.
0:04:34 > 0:04:37- Where do you go to buy horses?
0:04:38 > 0:04:43- We go onto the Continent - to buy them, and to Ireland.
0:04:44 > 0:04:46- Where did you get this horse?
0:04:46 > 0:04:50- She came from Ireland, - the Goresbridge sales, a year ago.
0:04:52 > 0:04:54- She's coming on quite well.
0:04:54 > 0:04:58- We think a lot of her. She's ready - for a good year next year.
0:04:58 > 0:05:02- Maybe someone else - will own her afterwards.
0:05:02 > 0:05:05- What was it about her - that caught your eye?
0:05:05 > 0:05:08- If I buy a horse, - I always consider...
0:05:09 > 0:05:11- ..first of all, - if it's a jumping horse.
0:05:11 > 0:05:14- But I always think - of a second job for them.
0:05:14 > 0:05:18- If they're not good enough, - they might make eventers...
0:05:18 > 0:05:21- ..or show horses or hunters.
0:05:21 > 0:05:23- She's a smart-looking horse.
0:05:24 > 0:05:26- If she doesn't - make the grade as a jumper...
0:05:26 > 0:05:29- ..she'll definitely - make a good eventer.
0:05:34 > 0:05:37- What's your dream, - as a buyer and as a trainer?
0:05:38 > 0:05:42- Well, I think everyone - has the same dream.
0:05:43 > 0:05:45- Getting a superstar horse.
0:05:46 > 0:05:48- Rearing it or buying it.
0:05:50 > 0:05:53- If you have one - that's good enough...
0:05:53 > 0:05:58- ..the money you can get - can change your life.
0:05:58 > 0:06:03- It'll probably remain a dream, - but we'll carry on pursuing it.
0:06:04 > 0:06:06- Until you achieve it, - and then retire!
0:06:07 > 0:06:08- That's right!
0:06:19 > 0:06:21- This is Just Jasper.
0:06:21 > 0:06:23- He has won a class...
0:06:23 > 0:06:27- ..at most shows - across Great Britain.
0:06:28 > 0:06:30- This horse has cleared two metres.
0:06:31 > 0:06:34- So, he has earned his retirement.
0:06:34 > 0:06:36- He certainly has earned it.
0:06:36 > 0:06:40- He's coming out of retirement - for one day only...
0:06:40 > 0:06:41- ..to educate you!
0:06:43 > 0:06:44- What am I going to do?
0:06:44 > 0:06:46- What am I going to do?- - You'll jump a short course.
0:06:47 > 0:06:52- Jump the cross-pole, back over - the blue one, over the water tray.
0:06:52 > 0:06:53- OK.
0:06:53 > 0:06:55- He knows more than you, OK?
0:06:55 > 0:06:57- Just steer him.
0:06:57 > 0:06:59- So, I have to keep my eyes open?!
0:06:59 > 0:07:03- It's up to you. You don't have to, - as long as he knows where to go.
0:07:03 > 0:07:06- What's the most important point - to get right?
0:07:07 > 0:07:09- Stay in a canter rhythm.
0:07:09 > 0:07:11- Don't rush, stay at a canter.
0:07:11 > 0:07:14- That's all I want you to do, - and he'll do the rest.
0:07:15 > 0:07:16- I'll leave it to him.
0:07:17 > 0:07:19- OK, a quick loop to pick up pace.
0:07:20 > 0:07:22- Yes, that's right.
0:07:22 > 0:07:24- Pick it up to a canter. Good.
0:07:28 > 0:07:30- The orange one first.
0:07:30 > 0:07:31- The orange one first.- - Yes.
0:07:38 > 0:07:41- Look where you're going. - Look at the jump.
0:07:46 > 0:07:47- Steady.
0:07:50 > 0:07:52- We'll make a showjumper of you yet!
0:07:55 > 0:07:57- I don't think so!
0:07:57 > 0:08:00- No more playing about. - Let's jump something proper.
0:08:03 > 0:08:04- Are you ready?
0:08:05 > 0:08:06- Um...
0:08:06 > 0:08:08- ..no, not at all!
0:08:10 > 0:08:12- Right, pull up then.
0:08:12 > 0:08:13- I'm trying.
0:08:16 > 0:08:17- I'm tired.
0:08:20 > 0:08:23- I'm glad to have done what I have.
0:08:24 > 0:08:27- I didn't expect to do that today.
0:08:29 > 0:08:31- You've seen an apprentice.
0:08:32 > 0:08:34- Next, let's watch an expert at work.
0:08:40 > 0:08:44- Eurig's friend, Andrew Davies, - is one of the best.
0:08:45 > 0:08:48- He achieved success - with the British team...
0:08:48 > 0:08:51- ..and in 2003, - his horse Limbo...
0:08:51 > 0:08:56- ..was top of the British - Showjumping Association rankings.
0:08:56 > 0:08:59- That year, Limbo was sold - for over 1,000,000.
0:09:00 > 0:09:04- At the time, it was a record price - for a showjumper.
0:09:04 > 0:09:07- Andrew and Eurig - are lifelong friends.
0:09:10 > 0:09:12- Have you ever beaten Andrew?
0:09:12 > 0:09:14- I've beaten him a few times.
0:09:16 > 0:09:17- Yes, now and again.
0:09:17 > 0:09:19- Was there a great rivalry?
0:09:20 > 0:09:21- Only in the ring.
0:09:21 > 0:09:24- Once we were out, - we were firm friends again.
0:09:26 > 0:09:29- Would you compete against him now?
0:09:29 > 0:09:35- If I'd lose a bit of this belly, - I'd give it a go!
0:09:36 > 0:09:37- How do you think you'd do?
0:09:38 > 0:09:39- I'd win.
0:09:39 > 0:09:41- Of course. No doubt.
0:09:44 > 0:09:47- Was there a lot of competition - between you?
0:09:47 > 0:09:48- A lot.
0:09:48 > 0:09:51- I can remember - when I first started...
0:09:51 > 0:09:54- ..one of my ambitions - was to try and beat him.
0:09:55 > 0:09:56- He was **** impossible.
0:09:56 > 0:09:58- He kind of won everything.
0:09:59 > 0:10:00- He's a good mate to ask...
0:10:01 > 0:10:04- ..what I did wrong, - what the horse needs doing.
0:10:04 > 0:10:07- It's good to have - a bit of an ally as well.
0:10:07 > 0:10:09- To be completely honest with you.
0:10:09 > 0:10:10- To be completely honest with you.- - Absolutely.
0:10:10 > 0:10:13- Probably too honest half the time.
0:10:14 > 0:10:17- Is it important - to have a bond with your horse?
0:10:17 > 0:10:19- Very, very important.
0:10:19 > 0:10:23- You know, if you're - working round them all day...
0:10:23 > 0:10:26- ..and riding them, - you find out their personalities.
0:10:27 > 0:10:31- Whether they're a bit obnoxious - or a bit quiet or a bit sharp.
0:10:32 > 0:10:34- No, it's really important.
0:10:34 > 0:10:37- In every equestrian discipline...
0:10:37 > 0:10:40- ..I think - that's what divides horsemen...
0:10:40 > 0:10:43- ..with people - who just get on and kick on.
0:10:47 > 0:10:50- What makes Andrew a good jumper?
0:10:51 > 0:10:53- You need a lot of things.
0:10:53 > 0:10:55- First of all, he's got talent.
0:10:56 > 0:10:57- What we call feel.
0:10:57 > 0:11:01- That's something - a lot of people don't have.
0:11:01 > 0:11:04- What we call a natural feel.
0:11:04 > 0:11:09- Knowing that he can get the horse - to work with him as one.
0:11:09 > 0:11:14- We teach a lot of people to jump, - and we try to teach it.
0:11:14 > 0:11:17- But essentially, - you're born with it.
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0:11:38 > 0:11:41- In this episode - of Ceffylau Cymru...
0:11:41 > 0:11:46- ..I look at the world of showjumping - with the expert, Eurig Eynon.
0:11:46 > 0:11:50- He buys sport horses - from Holland and Germany...
0:11:51 > 0:11:55- ..where breeding and training - standards are way ahead of Britain.
0:11:56 > 0:12:00- But he says that the standard - of Irish jumpers is improving.
0:12:00 > 0:12:06- He tries his luck at many sales - at Goresbridge, near Kilkenny.
0:12:06 > 0:12:10- He did well here last time, - when he bought Popstar.
0:12:11 > 0:12:14- This time, I'm keeping him company.
0:12:17 > 0:12:20- Ireland's Goresbridge sales - are famous.
0:12:20 > 0:12:24- People have travelled far - in search of a bargain.
0:12:24 > 0:12:26- There's a lot of choice here.
0:12:26 > 0:12:30- Hopefully, Eurig will have - some good luck on the Emerald Isle.
0:12:39 > 0:12:41- We've come all the way to Ireland.
0:12:42 > 0:12:43- What are we doing here?
0:12:43 > 0:12:48- I'm hoping to buy - a performance horse today, if I can.
0:12:48 > 0:12:49- A jumper.
0:12:50 > 0:12:51- We'll see.
0:12:51 > 0:12:53- I come out here regularly.
0:12:54 > 0:12:58- Sometimes, we find one, - sometimes, nothing tickles my fancy.
0:12:58 > 0:13:00- We've come to have a look.
0:13:00 > 0:13:03- What sort of prices - do horses fetch here?
0:13:03 > 0:13:09- Today, I should think they'll be - anywhere between 1,000 and 10,000.
0:13:09 > 0:13:10- Something like that.
0:13:11 > 0:13:12- Are there bargains here?
0:13:12 > 0:13:14- Are there bargains here?- - If there are, I hope we find one.
0:13:24 > 0:13:28- What do you look for - in a jumping horse?
0:13:28 > 0:13:34- One that jumps cleanly, - that doesn't want to hit the jumps.
0:13:35 > 0:13:38- A horse that moves nicely
0:13:39 > 0:13:42- More than anything, - one that I like looking at.
0:13:42 > 0:13:46- How important is it to see - the horse jump before you buy it?
0:13:46 > 0:13:50- Very important, - because you can look in the book...
0:13:51 > 0:13:55- ..and, judging by its breeding - it should jump like a kangaroo...
0:13:56 > 0:13:59- ..but it can't jump - over its own shadow.
0:14:00 > 0:14:03- This horse has caught your eye.
0:14:03 > 0:14:06- What is it that you like about it?
0:14:06 > 0:14:08- It's nice to look at, first of all.
0:14:08 > 0:14:10- It's pleasant on the eye.
0:14:12 > 0:14:13- It has quite good breeding.
0:14:14 > 0:14:19- From what I've seen so far, - it shows as quite a nice horse.
0:14:19 > 0:14:21- Do you think you'll bid for it?
0:14:21 > 0:14:23- Do you think you'll bid for it?- - That could well happen.
0:14:23 > 0:14:26- I need to see - its veterinary certificate.
0:14:26 > 0:14:29- Every horse here - has been vetted in advance.
0:14:30 > 0:14:33- That's different - to what happens back home.
0:14:33 > 0:14:37- In our sales back home, - you buy them first...
0:14:37 > 0:14:41- ..and if you want them vetted, - you take them to the vet afterwards.
0:14:42 > 0:14:45- But it's nice to see - a veterinary certificate.
0:14:45 > 0:14:48- You can see if they're clean...
0:14:49 > 0:14:52- ..or if there are problems, - you can see what's wrong.
0:14:53 > 0:14:58- Then it's up to you to decide - if you take the risk or leave it.
0:14:58 > 0:15:01- Are they problems - that you can work on?
0:15:01 > 0:15:02- Sometimes.
0:15:03 > 0:15:08- But because I buy a jumper - to bring on and sell on...
0:15:09 > 0:15:13- ..if there's anything wrong with it - as a four-year-old...
0:15:14 > 0:15:17- ..it'll often remain a weakness - for life...
0:15:18 > 0:15:20- ..and a vet will always flag it up.
0:15:20 > 0:15:25- Knowing that, it's pointless for me - to work on that horse for two years.
0:15:27 > 0:15:31- Eurig had his eye on this bay horse.
0:15:31 > 0:15:36- But after inspecting the animal - and its veterinary certificate...
0:15:36 > 0:15:38- ..he decides not to bid.
0:15:38 > 0:15:43- Goresbridge attracts a horde - of buyers and enthusiasts.
0:15:43 > 0:15:47- But after studying the horses - in the stables and the arena...
0:15:47 > 0:15:52- ..only potential bidders - usually enter the selling ring.
0:15:52 > 0:15:56- The auction is winding up now, - and it has been a long day.
0:15:57 > 0:15:58- Have you had any luck?
0:15:58 > 0:16:01- No, not today. - I haven't bought anything.
0:16:01 > 0:16:04- One that I fancied went too high.
0:16:04 > 0:16:09- Two others had problems - on the veterinary certificates.
0:16:11 > 0:16:13- I left them alone, so no luck today.
0:16:14 > 0:16:17- But that's the way it goes - and I'll come back another time.
0:16:18 > 0:16:20- We had a day out, if nothing else.
0:16:21 > 0:16:23- A cold day, but a day out.
0:16:23 > 0:16:24- A cold day, but a day out.- - Yes, a very cold day.
0:16:29 > 0:16:31- After leaving Ireland - empty-handed...
0:16:32 > 0:16:35- ..I met a young showjumper - from the Llandeilo area...
0:16:35 > 0:16:38- ..who has tasted success - all across Britain.
0:16:39 > 0:16:42- Nia Williams competes - with her horse Webster.
0:16:43 > 0:16:45- He was bought - in Holland by Eurig...
0:16:46 > 0:16:48- ..who then trained him - and sold him on.
0:16:49 > 0:16:54- Eurig won on Webster in 2010 - at the Royal Three Counties Show.
0:16:58 > 0:17:01- When did you start showjumping?
0:17:02 > 0:17:04- As far as I can remember...
0:17:04 > 0:17:07- ..at this competition...
0:17:07 > 0:17:09- ..I was four years old.
0:17:09 > 0:17:11- Here, I was five.
0:17:11 > 0:17:13- Then six and upwards.
0:17:14 > 0:17:17- What does your usual year entail?
0:17:19 > 0:17:23- The year starts - with a few winter shows.
0:17:24 > 0:17:26- Probably one or two a month.
0:17:26 > 0:17:31- The agricultural shows - start in May...
0:17:32 > 0:17:36- ..and run through to September.
0:17:36 > 0:17:40- Then the horse has a winter break - before starting over.
0:17:43 > 0:17:48- The Pencoed Jumping Show is one - of the year's first competitions.
0:17:48 > 0:17:50- Nia's keen - to get back in the saddle.
0:17:51 > 0:17:55- I went to find out more - about the competition element...
0:17:56 > 0:17:58- ..and to offer her some support.
0:17:59 > 0:18:01- It's your first competition - this year.
0:18:02 > 0:18:04- Are these small events important?
0:18:05 > 0:18:08- Yes, they're important - to develop confidence...
0:18:08 > 0:18:12- ..for the bigger jumps to come - later in the season.
0:18:12 > 0:18:15- What's your objective this year?
0:18:15 > 0:18:19- This year's aim - is to hopefully improve enough...
0:18:20 > 0:18:24- ..to compete in the 1.30m class - by the end of the summer season.
0:18:25 > 0:18:26- How do you achieve that?
0:18:27 > 0:18:30- In one step, - or by progressing gradually?
0:18:30 > 0:18:33- I'll be going gradually higher...
0:18:33 > 0:18:38- ..to ensure that I'm confident - with the new heights.
0:18:40 > 0:18:43- How have you prepared for today?
0:18:43 > 0:18:47- I had a lesson with Andrew Davies - a couple of weeks ago...
0:18:47 > 0:18:49- ..to prepare for today.
0:18:49 > 0:18:53- A refresher for you and Webster - after some time off.
0:18:53 > 0:18:55- Webster's had two months off.
0:18:56 > 0:18:58- It was nice - to have a refresher...
0:18:58 > 0:19:01- ..to make sure - everything was OK for today.
0:19:01 > 0:19:03- Did it go alright?
0:19:03 > 0:19:05- Did it go alright?- - Yes, it went really well.
0:19:05 > 0:19:06- Are you ready to compete?
0:19:06 > 0:19:08- Are you ready to compete?- - Yes, I'm ready for today.
0:19:09 > 0:19:13- Eurig's also at the show, - with his horse Popstar...
0:19:13 > 0:19:15- ..ridden by Emily Manieri.
0:19:15 > 0:19:20- It's the season's first event, - and the excitement is palpable.
0:19:20 > 0:19:26- Who will hop the hurdles, top - the triple bar and outdo the oxer?
0:19:27 > 0:19:31- It's a small show in Pencoed, - something to start them off.
0:19:31 > 0:19:35- This pony did a bit in the summer, - but it's her first event indoors.
0:19:35 > 0:19:38- We put her down a class.
0:19:38 > 0:19:39- How did she get on?
0:19:40 > 0:19:42- She got one down, but I was happy.
0:19:42 > 0:19:46- Is it nice to see horses - that you trained competing?
0:19:46 > 0:19:52- Yes, I'm glad to have sold - a lot of horses locally.
0:19:52 > 0:19:57- Everyone has fun with them, - and that's nice to see.
0:19:58 > 0:20:00- Do you hope to beat them?
0:20:00 > 0:20:05- I hope so, and that everyone - likes what they see and buy more!
0:20:07 > 0:20:12- Nia's first competition - is the 1.05m round.
0:20:15 > 0:20:20- She passes the timing marker - and jumps the first.
0:20:21 > 0:20:22- Over the second.
0:20:22 > 0:20:25- Webster's picking up a bit of speed.
0:20:28 > 0:20:29- It's the double next.
0:20:30 > 0:20:32- She's over the first one...
0:20:32 > 0:20:33- ..and the second.
0:20:36 > 0:20:38- The fifth fence is the black one.
0:20:39 > 0:20:43- She clears it, - and there's another double next.
0:20:44 > 0:20:48- She clears the first one, - and the second.
0:20:51 > 0:20:54- Two fences left, - and a tight turn to save time.
0:20:54 > 0:20:56- She clears that one as well.
0:21:00 > 0:21:02- I think Webster's enjoying himself.
0:21:04 > 0:21:05- Only one fence to go.
0:21:06 > 0:21:08- This is for a clear round.
0:21:09 > 0:21:11- And she's over it.
0:21:15 > 0:21:18- You've finished competing - for the day, Nia.
0:21:18 > 0:21:19- How did you get on?
0:21:19 > 0:21:20- How did you get on?- - It went well today.
0:21:20 > 0:21:24- I was second in the 1.05m - and I got one down in the 1.10m.
0:21:24 > 0:21:26- You must be happy with that.
0:21:26 > 0:21:29- You must be happy with that.- - Very happy at the year's opener.
0:21:30 > 0:21:32- What was your priority today?
0:21:32 > 0:21:37- The most important thing today - was to get a clear round.
0:21:37 > 0:21:39- Second place was a bonus.
0:21:56 > 0:21:59- A promising start at Pencoed...
0:21:59 > 0:22:03- ..for another busy year - in the showjumping calendar.
0:22:05 > 0:22:08- After all, nobody knows - what tomorrow brings.
0:22:19 > 0:22:21- What is the future for you?
0:22:22 > 0:22:24- Carrying on, hopefully.
0:22:25 > 0:22:30- Paying the bills, keeping the family - in the manner they're accustomed to.
0:22:32 > 0:22:34- Hopefully, maybe...
0:22:34 > 0:22:39- ..finding that good jumper - that will really put us on the map.
0:22:39 > 0:22:42- Could you ever imagine - a life without horses?
0:22:42 > 0:22:43- No, never.
0:22:43 > 0:22:46- Horses will be in my life - as long as I draw breath.
0:22:51 > 0:22:56- Horses have brought me - great happiness over the years.
0:22:56 > 0:22:59- Being with a horse...
0:22:59 > 0:23:04- ..it's obedient, - it's a very trusting animal.
0:23:05 > 0:23:08- I've had lots of fun with them...
0:23:08 > 0:23:11- ..and I've had lots...
0:23:12 > 0:23:15- ..of horses with problems...
0:23:16 > 0:23:22- ..and turned them around - into nice straight horses.
0:23:22 > 0:23:28- It's been a great privilege for me - to live with horses all my life.
0:23:30 > 0:23:32- Horses have been good to me.
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