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0:00:09 > 0:00:12- What wonderful views!
0:00:13 > 0:00:17- I've come to visit the lads - of Pendyffryn, Penmaenmawr...
0:00:17 > 0:00:21- ..and this is the area - of their old home, Llanfairfechan.
0:00:22 > 0:00:25- Lovely views - across the sea to Anglesey.
0:00:25 > 0:00:30- The four brothers - Huw, Wil, - Rol and Teg - farm together...
0:00:30 > 0:00:34- ..and they have four sons - to follow in their footsteps.
0:00:34 > 0:00:38- There are several small children - here too, to follow on.
0:00:39 > 0:00:42- There are indeed new shepherds - on these old mountains.
0:00:43 > 0:00:45- They live in a Welsh paradise.
0:00:50 > 0:00:55- This is a busy and important time - of the year for farms.
0:00:55 > 0:00:59- It's time to sort out the cattle - and the sheep...
0:01:00 > 0:01:04- ..and decide what to sell - and what to keep for the future.
0:01:04 > 0:01:05- ..and decide what to sell - and what to keep for the future.- - August 2005
0:01:05 > 0:01:10- With all these young children, - there certainly is a future.
0:01:10 > 0:01:13- Sheep are brought down - from the mountain.
0:01:13 > 0:01:14- Where are we, Rol?
0:01:14 > 0:01:15- Where are we, Rol?- - At Tyn Llwyfan Farm, Llanfairfechan.
0:01:15 > 0:01:16- At Tyn Llwyfan Farm, Llanfairfechan.
0:01:17 > 0:01:20- And some of the boys - have already left?
0:01:21 > 0:01:24- Half of them have gone.
0:01:24 > 0:01:28- We're going up - to Bwlch y Ddeufaen...
0:01:28 > 0:01:31- ..to fetch sheep from Pen Cefn.
0:01:31 > 0:01:35- You'll be tired by the time - we get to Druid's Circle.
0:01:35 > 0:01:40- We'll be coming back - via Gwastad Pen Cefn...
0:01:40 > 0:01:42- ..and down along the stream.
0:01:42 > 0:01:45- How many men are out working today?
0:01:45 > 0:01:45- How many men are out working today?- - About 15.
0:01:45 > 0:01:46- About 15.
0:01:47 > 0:01:49- I've brought the dogs.
0:01:49 > 0:01:54- The boys are going up that way, - but I'm coming with you.
0:01:54 > 0:01:57- I won't miss anything, will I?
0:01:57 > 0:01:59- Are we going in this?
0:02:07 > 0:02:08- WHISTLING
0:02:14 > 0:02:19- Things haven't changed much over - the years in these upland areas.
0:02:20 > 0:02:21- Old customs survive.
0:02:22 > 0:02:25- It's important that younger - generations learn the craft...
0:02:26 > 0:02:29- ..from their fathers - and grandfathers.
0:02:31 > 0:02:34- There's plenty of fun.
0:02:34 > 0:02:39- Despite the quad bikes, they rely - on dogs to bring the sheep down.
0:02:39 > 0:02:43- Of course, fine weather is a bonus.
0:02:44 > 0:02:48- Are you taking these - to the field by the house?
0:02:48 > 0:02:49- To the yard.
0:02:49 > 0:02:53- To the yard.- - It takes a week to fetch them all.
0:02:53 > 0:02:57- Yes. We've already gathered 1,000 - sheep from the Penmaenmawr side.
0:02:59 > 0:03:02- Jac, Jac - good boy, Jac!
0:03:03 > 0:03:05- THEY CALL TO THE DOGS
0:03:09 > 0:03:11- WHISTLING
0:03:13 > 0:03:16- It's a job getting them - through these rushes...
0:03:16 > 0:03:19- ..and my short legs trip me up!
0:03:19 > 0:03:23- Good dog, good dog! - Good dog, good dog!
0:03:23 > 0:03:24- They're very woolly.
0:03:25 > 0:03:27- Just look at them.
0:03:27 > 0:03:30- THEY CALL TO THE DOGS
0:03:43 > 0:03:45- You'll sleep like a log tonight!
0:03:45 > 0:03:46- You'll sleep like a log tonight!- - Yes, I'll be tired.
0:03:46 > 0:03:47- Yes, I'll be tired.
0:03:47 > 0:03:51- All these must be treated today, - and the lambs separated.
0:03:51 > 0:03:55- We have to dose them all.
0:03:55 > 0:03:57- It was quite an experience.
0:03:57 > 0:04:02- Some parts of that mountain are - dangerous - I was afraid you'd fall.
0:04:03 > 0:04:07- You'd have needed a helicopter - - a pony couldn't carry you down!
0:04:07 > 0:04:11- You were scared - at the thought of lifting me!
0:04:13 > 0:04:15- Are you sorting them this afternoon?
0:04:15 > 0:04:15- Are you sorting them this afternoon?- - Yes, all of them.
0:04:15 > 0:04:17- Yes, all of them.
0:04:17 > 0:04:21- Some of these sheep - belong to other people...
0:04:21 > 0:04:24- ..though most of them - belong to the family.
0:04:25 > 0:04:29- It was interesting to watch - the other sheep breaking away.
0:04:29 > 0:04:31- We needed good dogs today.
0:04:31 > 0:04:33- It was hot too.
0:04:34 > 0:04:38- I don't know - if I'm sweating or leaking!
0:04:40 > 0:04:42- THEY HOLLER AT THE SHEEP
0:04:49 > 0:04:53- It's the end of August, - and it's boiling hot today.
0:04:54 > 0:04:58- We brought them down this morning, - before the midday heat.
0:04:59 > 0:05:04- The children are helping the fathers - and grandfathers to sort the sheep.
0:05:06 > 0:05:09- I've cooled down now, - so I'll go and help.
0:05:11 > 0:05:14- BLEATING, BANGING, SHOUTING.
0:05:24 > 0:05:28- Wil, you rarely see - such a big family working a farm.
0:05:29 > 0:05:34- Four brothers run this farm, and now - there are four sons as well.
0:05:35 > 0:05:38- And here's the third generation - - Osian.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41- Ieuan here is your son.
0:05:43 > 0:05:46- You all come together - for the big jobs.
0:05:46 > 0:05:50- Yes - harvesting, sheep shearing - and bringing the sheep down.
0:05:52 > 0:05:55- How long has the family farmed here?
0:05:55 > 0:06:00- My cousin and her husband have been - tracing the family's history...
0:06:00 > 0:06:05- ..and the family's been in this - parish for about 350 years.
0:06:05 > 0:06:06- My father's side of the family.
0:06:06 > 0:06:08- My father's side of the family.- - Did he have many brothers?
0:06:08 > 0:06:08- Did he have many brothers?
0:06:08 > 0:06:10- Yes - he was one of 11.
0:06:11 > 0:06:16- There's a photo of seven of them - shearing together, in the '50s.
0:06:17 > 0:06:19- It's a hot day.
0:06:20 > 0:06:23- Do all these sheep belong to you?
0:06:23 > 0:06:29- No - we bring everyone's sheep down, - and this is where we sort them.
0:06:31 > 0:06:36- We keep the other sheep here - until the owners come to fetch them.
0:06:40 > 0:06:43- Rol's responsible - for the other sheep.
0:06:43 > 0:06:45- He's the parish setter.
0:06:45 > 0:06:51- He phones people to tell them - if any of their sheep are here.
0:06:53 > 0:06:57- You're following - in your father's footsteps, Ieuan,
0:06:57 > 0:06:59- That's right.
0:06:59 > 0:07:01- Is Osian interested?
0:07:01 > 0:07:02- He's very keen.
0:07:02 > 0:07:04- How many children do you have?
0:07:04 > 0:07:07- How many children do you have?- - Osian and his little sister, Ela.
0:07:08 > 0:07:11- It's great to see them here today.
0:07:11 > 0:07:11- It's great to see them here today.- - She's too young to be here.
0:07:11 > 0:07:13- She's too young to be here.
0:07:14 > 0:07:18- On family farms, it's so important - for children to be involved.
0:07:19 > 0:07:21- You're right.
0:07:21 > 0:07:22- That's how they learn.
0:07:22 > 0:07:23- That's how they learn.- - They preserve the language...
0:07:23 > 0:07:24- They preserve the language...
0:07:24 > 0:07:25- ..and history too.
0:07:26 > 0:07:30- Most of the history of this parish - is oral history.
0:07:30 > 0:07:33- A lot of it isn't documented.
0:07:33 > 0:07:36- This parish - has a very interesting history.
0:07:37 > 0:07:40- You brothers - have an interesting history too.
0:07:40 > 0:07:41- You know how to enjoy yourselves.
0:07:41 > 0:07:42- You know how to enjoy yourselves.- - People might talk more about us...
0:07:42 > 0:07:44- People might talk more about us...
0:07:44 > 0:07:46- ..when we're gone to the other side!
0:07:56 > 0:08:00- Gareth, it's a tough job - in hot weather.
0:08:00 > 0:08:02- What are you dosing against today?
0:08:03 > 0:08:04- Parasitic worms.
0:08:04 > 0:08:07- They're fairly healthy - on the mountain, though.
0:08:07 > 0:08:10- Yes, but they must be wormed...
0:08:10 > 0:08:14- ..before we start sending them away - for the winter.
0:08:15 > 0:08:18- Rol, you're marking sheep - for selling.
0:08:18 > 0:08:21- Yes, sheep to be sold.
0:08:21 > 0:08:26- We dose all the sheep against fluke - and worms, as you can see.
0:08:26 > 0:08:28- You've got plenty of helpers.
0:08:29 > 0:08:30- Is it easy to find helpers?
0:08:30 > 0:08:32- Is it easy to find helpers?- - The local boys are good...
0:08:32 > 0:08:32- Is it easy to find helpers?
0:08:32 > 0:08:34- ..when it comes - to bringing the sheep down.
0:08:34 > 0:08:35- ..when it comes - to bringing the sheep down.
0:08:36 > 0:08:41- We encourage the boys to keep - farming - my grandfather farmed...
0:08:41 > 0:08:46- ..I'm a farmer, and I hope the boys - and their children will follow.
0:08:47 > 0:08:50- The land passes from one generation - to the next.
0:08:51 > 0:08:52- BLEATING
0:09:02 > 0:09:07- It's the first farm I've visited - that's run by four brothers...
0:09:07 > 0:09:09- ..who have a son each.
0:09:10 > 0:09:12- This is Tecwyn's son, Robert.
0:09:12 > 0:09:13- Are sheep your main work?
0:09:13 > 0:09:14- Are sheep your main work?- - Yes.
0:09:14 > 0:09:15- Yes.
0:09:15 > 0:09:18- Sheep involve more work - than cattle, these days.
0:09:19 > 0:09:22- A lot more. - Feet are the biggest problem.
0:09:25 > 0:09:26- Do you like working with sheep?
0:09:26 > 0:09:27- Do you like working with sheep?- - Yes, I enjoy working with sheep.
0:09:27 > 0:09:29- Yes, I enjoy working with sheep.
0:09:29 > 0:09:31- I like a bit of everything.
0:09:31 > 0:09:32- You're not married yet.
0:09:32 > 0:09:33- You're not married yet.- - No, but I'm engaged.
0:09:33 > 0:09:34- No, but I'm engaged.
0:09:34 > 0:09:36- I'm on the way.
0:09:36 > 0:09:37- Be careful, and take your time!
0:09:37 > 0:09:39- Be careful, and take your time!- - Yes, take it slowly!
0:09:39 > 0:09:39- Yes, take it slowly!
0:09:39 > 0:09:40- You're building a new house.
0:09:40 > 0:09:42- You're building a new house.- - Yes - it's half-built.
0:09:42 > 0:09:42- Yes - it's half-built.
0:09:42 > 0:09:46- I hope it's ready - before lambing time.
0:10:10 > 0:10:12- They're very woolly, Wil.
0:10:12 > 0:10:17- Yes, and they're not as greasy - as they are earlier in the season.
0:10:18 > 0:10:18- The sun's warmed it out.
0:10:18 > 0:10:20- The sun's warmed it out.- - Yes, thank goodness.
0:10:20 > 0:10:20- Yes, thank goodness.
0:10:22 > 0:10:25- The grease can be dirty stuff.
0:10:25 > 0:10:27- That's why I'm wearing overalls.
0:10:27 > 0:10:32- I thought you were expecting frost, - and going out gritting!
0:10:32 > 0:10:37- No, these keep my wife happy - - less washing to do.
0:10:37 > 0:10:39- We roll the fleeces inside-out...
0:10:40 > 0:10:43- ..so the fleeces - can be graded more easily.
0:10:45 > 0:10:46- You don't tie it?
0:10:46 > 0:10:47- You don't tie it?- - No, I tuck it in like this.
0:10:47 > 0:10:49- No, I tuck it in like this.
0:10:50 > 0:10:54- This is quite a tiring job - to do all day.
0:10:54 > 0:10:58- I don't often see someone - using a table.
0:10:58 > 0:11:00- I thought tea was ready!
0:11:00 > 0:11:04- My back and legs hurt - when I bend too low.
0:11:04 > 0:11:07- My belly gets in the way!
0:11:08 > 0:11:11- Shearing day is a day for fun.
0:11:11 > 0:11:16- A local boy, Berwyn, has been - coming here since he was small.
0:11:16 > 0:11:19- This is a great place to learn.
0:11:19 > 0:11:21- He's very keen.
0:11:21 > 0:11:23- Learning, are you, Berwyn?
0:11:23 > 0:11:25- Yes.
0:11:25 > 0:11:26- Have you finished school?
0:11:26 > 0:11:27- Have you finished school?- - Yes.
0:11:27 > 0:11:28- Yes.
0:11:28 > 0:11:30- What will you do next?
0:11:32 > 0:11:34- I'm going to Glynllifon.
0:11:36 > 0:11:37- For six months.
0:11:37 > 0:11:37- For six months.- - For six months?
0:11:37 > 0:11:38- For six months?
0:11:39 > 0:11:42- Teg and the boys are teaching you.
0:11:42 > 0:11:44- When did you start coming here?
0:11:44 > 0:11:45- When did you start coming here?- - When I was 14.
0:11:45 > 0:11:46- When I was 14.
0:11:46 > 0:11:48- Have you learned a lot?
0:11:48 > 0:11:49- Have you learned a lot?- - Oh, yes.
0:11:49 > 0:11:51- You know your way on the mountain.
0:11:51 > 0:11:52- You know your way on the mountain.- - Of course!
0:11:53 > 0:11:57- Stick with it, - you're in a good place.
0:12:03 > 0:12:06- They say that farmers - have a good life.
0:12:07 > 0:12:09- You still work every day.
0:12:10 > 0:12:12- Rol, who's shearing, is nearly 70.
0:12:12 > 0:12:16- Teg shears too, - and Wil rolls the fleeces.
0:12:16 > 0:12:18- We all pitch in...
0:12:18 > 0:12:22- ..though it's the youngsters - who do most of the shearing.
0:12:23 > 0:12:26- When they have a break, - we take over.
0:12:27 > 0:12:29- It's nice to have the boys here.
0:12:30 > 0:12:32- We have 1,200 sheep to shear.
0:12:32 > 0:12:36- We start about 8.00am - and finish about 6.00pm.
0:12:36 > 0:12:38- It's quite a long day.
0:12:38 > 0:12:39- It's quite a long day.- - No need to tell a brother anything.
0:12:39 > 0:12:41- No need to tell a brother anything.
0:12:41 > 0:12:45- No need to speak for us, you mean?
0:12:45 > 0:12:48- They're old enough - to speak for themselves...
0:12:48 > 0:12:51- ..and they know - how to count pound notes!
0:12:52 > 0:12:58- There's no need to worry about money - - we all get an equal share.
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0:13:20 > 0:13:24- Rol's second son, Huw, lives here - on the outskirts of Penmaenmawr.
0:13:24 > 0:13:27- He runs Graiglwyd Springs, - a fishery.
0:13:30 > 0:13:35- The work is different, but it's - located next to the family's land.
0:13:49 > 0:13:51- It's a lovely spot, Huw...
0:13:51 > 0:13:56- ..and just a stone's throw from the - family home in Llanfairfechan...
0:13:56 > 0:13:57- ..just through Penmaenmawr.
0:13:58 > 0:13:59- It's a novel idea - a fish farm.
0:13:59 > 0:14:01- It's a novel idea - a fish farm.- - Yes.
0:14:01 > 0:14:01- Yes.
0:14:01 > 0:14:03- How long has it been here?
0:14:03 > 0:14:04- How long has it been here?- - Since September '93.
0:14:04 > 0:14:04- Since September '93.
0:14:05 > 0:14:09- Your brother looks after sheep, - but this is your interest.
0:14:10 > 0:14:14- Yes. I enjoyed fishing in rivers - when I was a child.
0:14:15 > 0:14:17- This was in the middle of the farms.
0:14:18 > 0:14:24- I got a chance to buy it, - and I turned it into a fishing lake.
0:14:25 > 0:14:27- It's gone from strength to strength.
0:14:28 > 0:14:33- Do you leave the fish to grow - in the bottom pond?
0:14:34 > 0:14:37- Yes, I grow them on.
0:14:37 > 0:14:41- You buy in fish - when they weigh a pound.
0:14:41 > 0:14:44- 1lb old! That's a good one!
0:14:44 > 0:14:50- They grow to 2lbs or so, - then I put them in the lake.
0:14:50 > 0:14:55- I also buy large fish, - over 10lb and up to 30lbs.
0:14:55 > 0:14:58- We stock the lake every day.
0:14:58 > 0:15:00- People are constantly catching fish.
0:15:00 > 0:15:05- If 30 or 40 fish have been caught - - 80 is the average...
0:15:05 > 0:15:08- ..then 80 fish are put in.
0:15:08 > 0:15:11- Lifting those fish - must be hard on your back.
0:15:12 > 0:15:13- Oh God, yes.
0:15:13 > 0:15:16- I'm there with the net - every morning.
0:15:16 > 0:15:22- But it's a pleasure to see children - and disabled people catching fish.
0:15:22 > 0:15:25- Some are fishing for the first time.
0:15:25 > 0:15:28- People come from everywhere, - do they?
0:15:28 > 0:15:32- Yes. 50% come from - between here and Chester.
0:15:32 > 0:15:36- Teg lives just behind you - - you're in among the farms.
0:15:36 > 0:15:39- Yes, I see him in the afternoon.
0:15:39 > 0:15:45- That makes him sound as though - he's never up in the morning!
0:15:45 > 0:15:47- This is a very peaceful spot.
0:15:50 > 0:15:54- Who'd have thought there was - a place like this here?
0:15:55 > 0:15:58- He was very lucky to buy it.
0:15:58 > 0:16:02- Because we had the farms, - we knew about the place.
0:16:02 > 0:16:08- But it was my son who came up - with the fishery idea.
0:16:08 > 0:16:11- He's done a good job - of attracting people here.
0:16:11 > 0:16:15- It's often very full, - like it is today.
0:16:17 > 0:16:18- A DOG BARKS NOISILY
0:16:18 > 0:16:19- A DOG BARKS NOISILY- - There's a dog barking.
0:16:19 > 0:16:20- There's a dog barking.
0:16:20 > 0:16:23- It's the rottweiler - that guards the place.
0:16:23 > 0:16:25- Hello! A Welsh speaker too!
0:16:25 > 0:16:28- Where are you from? - Blaenau Ffestiniog?
0:16:29 > 0:16:31- Don't you have enough water there?!
0:16:31 > 0:16:33- Don't say that, Dai!
0:16:33 > 0:16:35- Don't want to lose customers!
0:16:37 > 0:16:41- You can see why people come here. - It's lovely.
0:16:41 > 0:16:45- There's a breeze here, - although the weather's sultry.
0:16:46 > 0:16:48- There's a light breeze.
0:16:49 > 0:16:50- Fish are jumping everywhere.
0:16:50 > 0:16:51- Fish are jumping everywhere.- - I hope he doesn't hook my glasses!
0:16:51 > 0:16:53- I hope he doesn't hook my glasses!
0:16:55 > 0:16:57- Is this your land?
0:16:58 > 0:17:00- Yes, it belongs to the farms.
0:17:01 > 0:17:06- We keep sheep all over the mountain, - all the way round to here.
0:17:06 > 0:17:09- What's the name of Teg's home?
0:17:09 > 0:17:09- What's the name of Teg's home?- - Plas Uchaf.
0:17:09 > 0:17:10- Plas Uchaf.
0:17:11 > 0:17:14- They're dipping sheep there today.
0:17:14 > 0:17:15- That's right.
0:17:15 > 0:17:20- All four brothers and four sons - work together on everything.
0:17:22 > 0:17:24- How lovely.
0:17:25 > 0:17:27- The family owns several farms.
0:17:27 > 0:17:30- This is Plas Uchaf, Teg's home.
0:17:31 > 0:17:32- They're dipping sheep today.
0:17:39 > 0:17:42- It's nice to see - the youngsters busy.
0:17:42 > 0:17:47- Yes. It takes the pressure off us - - the three old men!
0:17:47 > 0:17:48- It lightens the burden.
0:17:49 > 0:17:51- But being involved keeps you young.
0:17:51 > 0:17:53- Yes, indeed.
0:17:53 > 0:17:57- You can work - when you feel like working.
0:17:57 > 0:17:58- You can keep going 'till you're 100.
0:17:58 > 0:17:59- You can keep going 'till you're 100.- - We hope so.
0:17:59 > 0:18:00- You can keep going 'till you're 100.
0:18:00 > 0:18:00- We don't plan to leave - for a long time!
0:18:00 > 0:18:04- We don't plan to leave - for a long time!
0:18:04 > 0:18:08- They're dipping sale sheep, - three- and four-year olds.
0:18:08 > 0:18:11- We've got good sheep this year.
0:18:11 > 0:18:14- The youngsters - work on the farms every day.
0:18:14 > 0:18:18- We want to keep the farms - in the family.
0:18:19 > 0:18:22- There's no point - installing these facilities...
0:18:22 > 0:18:24- ..for rubbish stock.
0:18:24 > 0:18:28- You're right. - These facilities are here to stay.
0:18:28 > 0:18:33- You can't pay for new facilities - if you don't have good stock.
0:18:33 > 0:18:36- You get your money when they're sold.
0:18:47 > 0:18:50- Huw is the fourth brother, - the eldest.
0:18:51 > 0:18:53- He has a son, Owen John.
0:18:53 > 0:18:56- They're both very keen on machines.
0:19:00 > 0:19:02- Good tractors, Owen John.
0:19:02 > 0:19:04- Yes, they're good tractors.
0:19:04 > 0:19:06- You need them, too.
0:19:06 > 0:19:08- They're essential.
0:19:08 > 0:19:10- It's a matter of necessity.
0:19:11 > 0:19:13- Huw, you're the eldest brother.
0:19:14 > 0:19:16- Of the partners, yes.
0:19:16 > 0:19:20- I have another brother - who's older than me.
0:19:20 > 0:19:24- We four carried on farming here - after our father died.
0:19:24 > 0:19:26- We've been partners for years.
0:19:26 > 0:19:31- Were you always the one - who looked after the tractors?
0:19:31 > 0:19:33- Yes, though we all got involved.
0:19:33 > 0:19:38- But I did the most, - cutting hay and so on.
0:19:38 > 0:19:40- Rol did the baling.
0:19:40 > 0:19:42- WHISTLING
0:19:54 > 0:19:56- HE CALLS TO THE DOG
0:19:58 > 0:20:00- Who's this, Gareth?
0:20:00 > 0:20:01- He's Star's son.
0:20:02 > 0:20:03- He's a handy dog.
0:20:03 > 0:20:05- Yes, he is.
0:20:05 > 0:20:08- His mother is David Young's Jen.
0:20:08 > 0:20:10- Oh, from Scotland.
0:20:10 > 0:20:14- Yes. He's a young dog, - just two years old.
0:20:14 > 0:20:17- I know you compete with dogs.
0:20:17 > 0:20:21- Yes. I wish I had more time - to do this.
0:20:21 > 0:20:24- He should be good in a year or two.
0:20:24 > 0:20:25- He should be good in a year or two.- - How long have you been doing this?
0:20:25 > 0:20:26- How long have you been doing this?
0:20:27 > 0:20:29- Since I was 10.
0:20:29 > 0:20:33- An old boy, William Hughes, - came here to train dogs.
0:20:33 > 0:20:34- I started with him and Dad.
0:20:34 > 0:20:36- I started with him and Dad.- - Are you the only one...
0:20:36 > 0:20:36- Are you the only one...
0:20:37 > 0:20:38- ..who's been training him?
0:20:38 > 0:20:39- ..who's been training him?- - Yes, I train all the dogs.
0:20:39 > 0:20:40- Yes, I train all the dogs.
0:20:40 > 0:20:42- We have 17 dogs in all.
0:20:42 > 0:20:43- We have 17 dogs in all.- - 17? I saw the kennels.
0:20:43 > 0:20:44- 17? I saw the kennels.
0:20:45 > 0:20:48- Seven of them are puppies, mind you.
0:20:48 > 0:20:51- Dogs are essential - - you've got nearly 6,000 sheep.
0:20:51 > 0:20:55- Yes. Plenty of work for them.
0:20:55 > 0:20:56- Will you use him on the mountain?
0:20:56 > 0:20:58- Will you use him on the mountain?- - We're taking him there tomorrow.
0:20:58 > 0:20:58- We're taking him there tomorrow.
0:20:59 > 0:21:02- He was up there the other day too.
0:21:02 > 0:21:04- It helps to train him.
0:21:05 > 0:21:08- It's nice to spend the evenings - training a dog.
0:21:09 > 0:21:11- It's better than the pub!
0:21:11 > 0:21:13- I think you're right.
0:21:13 > 0:21:16- It also gives me time to think.
0:21:17 > 0:21:20- Well done, and good luck with him.
0:21:20 > 0:21:23- He's a smart dog. What's his name?
0:21:23 > 0:21:23- He's a smart dog. What's his name?- - His name's Fflach.
0:21:23 > 0:21:24- His name's Fflach.
0:21:24 > 0:21:27- The boys gave him that name.
0:21:28 > 0:21:32- Fflach. I'm sure they'll laugh - at the sheepdog trials!
0:21:36 > 0:21:39- The boys have quite a lot of land...
0:21:39 > 0:21:42- ..around Llanfairfechan, - Penmaenmawr and Conwy.
0:21:43 > 0:21:47- But the farm has to support - eight homes and families.
0:21:47 > 0:21:52- So it's no surprise that they rent - grazing land in Anglesey.
0:21:53 > 0:21:58- The land belongs to Lord Anglesey, - on the Plas Newydd estate.
0:21:59 > 0:22:03- There's plenty of food - for the lambs, William.
0:22:03 > 0:22:05- Yes, there's plenty of clover here.
0:22:06 > 0:22:09- Lots of clover. Is all this yours?
0:22:09 > 0:22:09- Lots of clover. Is all this yours?- - Yes. We have 150 acres here.
0:22:09 > 0:22:11- Yes. We have 150 acres here.
0:22:12 > 0:22:14- Grazing land, for lambs.
0:22:15 > 0:22:21- When we bring them down from the - mountain, male lambs come here...
0:22:21 > 0:22:22- ..to fatten.
0:22:23 > 0:22:27- I hope by holiday time, they'll - be good enough, or nearly so.
0:22:27 > 0:22:28- You've got over 1,000 lambs here.
0:22:28 > 0:22:30- You've got over 1,000 lambs here.- - Yes, well over 1,000.
0:22:32 > 0:22:36- You sell them - when the price is right.
0:22:36 > 0:22:37- That's right.
0:22:37 > 0:22:40- Anglesey isn't terribly far to come.
0:22:40 > 0:22:46- No. Sometimes we come over every - day, but at least every two days.
0:22:46 > 0:22:51- We have cattle and sheep here - so we've got to keep an eye.
0:22:52 > 0:22:56- Your sons, like your brothers, - know what's going on everywhere.
0:22:56 > 0:23:00- It doesn't matter - who comes to check on them.
0:23:00 > 0:23:05- We have a meeting in the morning - over a cuppa...
0:23:05 > 0:23:08- ..so we all know who's going where.
0:23:10 > 0:23:14- Amazing. That's what I call - a proper family farm.
0:23:15 > 0:23:16- I'd say so.
0:23:30 > 0:23:32- There's good land in Anglesey.
0:23:33 > 0:23:34- Yes, indeed.
0:23:34 > 0:23:40- This is the jewel in the crown. - It's the best farm in Anglesey.
0:23:42 > 0:23:46- You breed all your own cattle - - you never buy any.
0:23:47 > 0:23:49- These were reared in Llanfairfechan.
0:23:49 > 0:23:54- There's something about the land - in Anglesey - it suits cattle well.
0:23:54 > 0:23:56- They used to import big Irish cows.
0:23:56 > 0:23:57- They used to import big Irish cows.- - What really helps us...
0:23:57 > 0:23:58- What really helps us...
0:23:58 > 0:24:01- ..because we have so many - mountain sheep...
0:24:01 > 0:24:03- ..we'll have 1,000 female lambs...
0:24:04 > 0:24:08- ..and this place makes a big - difference to them come spring.
0:24:09 > 0:24:13- In April they go straight back - on the mountain.
0:24:13 > 0:24:17- We breed our own stock, - and we only buy bulls and rams.
0:24:18 > 0:24:23- If we had to buy all these, - on top of paying rent...
0:24:24 > 0:24:28- ..it would be difficult - to make a profit.
0:24:28 > 0:24:31- I feel that if you breed them - yourself...
0:24:31 > 0:24:32- ..it's possible to make a profit.
0:24:32 > 0:24:34- ..it's possible to make a profit.- - And you know what you've got.
0:24:34 > 0:24:34- And you know what you've got.
0:24:57 > 0:24:57- 888
0:24:57 > 0:24:59- 888
0:25:04 > 0:25:05- Hill farms are ruled by the seasons.
0:25:05 > 0:25:07- Hill farms are ruled by the seasons.- - September 2005
0:25:09 > 0:25:12- It's September, - again a time of gathering.
0:25:12 > 0:25:14- But the weather is very different.
0:25:20 > 0:25:21- What a morning!
0:25:24 > 0:25:26- Dai Jones slept late!
0:25:28 > 0:25:30- I couldn't see my way!
0:25:33 > 0:25:36- It's a filthy morning, - but the forecast was good.
0:25:37 > 0:25:39- It was raining heavily at 6.00am.
0:25:40 > 0:25:41- It was cold too.
0:25:45 > 0:25:49- Must we wait for the fog to clear?
0:25:49 > 0:25:54- What we're after today - are the sheep we want to sell.
0:25:55 > 0:25:57- All the shepherds are here.
0:25:57 > 0:26:00- Some of them have come from afar.
0:26:01 > 0:26:03- We'll wait 'til 10.00am or 11.00am.
0:26:05 > 0:26:08- We can't do much - after midday, can we?
0:26:15 > 0:26:19- Rain, wind and cold - mean nothing to the shepherds.
0:26:20 > 0:26:23- But fog is another matter.
0:26:25 > 0:26:30- Rol's son, Gareth, and his wife - and family, live near the farm.
0:26:32 > 0:26:35- Rhian, Gareth has his interests, - his work with sheepdogs.
0:26:36 > 0:26:38- You have your own interests.
0:26:38 > 0:26:38- You have your own interests.- - Yes - singing.
0:26:38 > 0:26:39- Yes - singing.
0:26:39 > 0:26:41- Singing and composing.
0:26:42 > 0:26:43- I write lyrics too.
0:26:44 > 0:26:47- Have you sung on stage a lot?
0:26:47 > 0:26:48- Yes, I have.
0:26:49 > 0:26:54- It's not so easy now I have - children, but I enjoy it.
0:26:54 > 0:26:56- That's Rolant on your lap.
0:26:56 > 0:26:59- Sior is the quiet one.
0:27:00 > 0:27:02- And how old is little Mari?
0:27:02 > 0:27:03- And how old is little Mari?- - Just over a year old.
0:27:03 > 0:27:05- Just over a year old.
0:27:06 > 0:27:11- This is a great place to live. - Plenty for the children to see.
0:27:12 > 0:27:16- It's a great place, - but it's hard work too.
0:27:16 > 0:27:18- Long hours.
0:27:18 > 0:27:18- Long hours.- - It's very foggy this morning...
0:27:18 > 0:27:20- It's very foggy this morning...
0:27:20 > 0:27:24- ..and you have to fetch sheep - from the mountain.
0:27:25 > 0:27:30- Can I have a colouring book? - I'm good at drawing birds!
0:27:31 > 0:27:33- Where did you meet Rhian, Gareth?
0:27:33 > 0:27:33- Where did you meet Rhian, Gareth?- - In a nightclub in Bangor.
0:27:33 > 0:27:35- In a nightclub in Bangor.
0:27:35 > 0:27:38- A nightclub, of all places!
0:27:39 > 0:27:41- That was a long time ago!
0:27:41 > 0:27:45- The boys used to go there - quite often.
0:27:45 > 0:27:47- We had a good time.
0:27:47 > 0:27:51- This is a good place - to raise children.
0:27:51 > 0:27:53- Yes - plenty of fresh air...
0:27:53 > 0:27:58- ..and they get a taste - of the traditional way of life.
0:27:58 > 0:28:02- One foot in the future - and one in the past.
0:28:02 > 0:28:06- They take their stories - to school in Bangor.
0:28:06 > 0:28:08- The school benefits too.
0:28:09 > 0:28:14- To go back to the singing, Rhian - - when do you find time to compose?
0:28:14 > 0:28:16- When I'm washing dishes!
0:28:16 > 0:28:22- I put a CD on, I wash the dishes, - and I think about lyrics.
0:28:25 > 0:28:28- # Will we ever have - this chance again?
0:28:28 > 0:28:31- # Where's the challenge, - where's the excitement?
0:28:32 > 0:28:37- # We must defend the right - of the mountain. #
0:28:39 > 0:28:43- Wil, you live - in the middle of the village.
0:28:43 > 0:28:47- Yes, but we don't keep - many animals here...
0:28:47 > 0:28:50- ..just a few calves in winter...
0:28:50 > 0:28:53- ..because the road - goes through a housing estate.
0:28:53 > 0:28:55- We can't take cattle back and forth.
0:28:55 > 0:28:56- We can't take cattle back and forth.- - How long have you lived here?
0:28:56 > 0:28:58- How long have you lived here?
0:28:58 > 0:29:01- It'll be 50 years next year.
0:29:01 > 0:29:04- Hen Blas. Who owned this place - previously?
0:29:04 > 0:29:07- It looks like a very nice place.
0:29:07 > 0:29:08- It looks like a very nice place.- - It was owned, years ago...
0:29:08 > 0:29:10- It was owned, years ago...
0:29:10 > 0:29:14- ..by the Bulkeleys - of Baron Hill in Anglesey.
0:29:14 > 0:29:18- That stone still bears - an inscription to that effect.
0:29:18 > 0:29:20- There's a lion on top too.
0:29:20 > 0:29:24- You live right in the middle - of the village.
0:29:24 > 0:29:27- Sometimes it's convenient, - sometimes not.
0:29:28 > 0:29:28- The flowers are lovely.
0:29:28 > 0:29:29- The flowers are lovely.- - My wife looks after those.
0:29:29 > 0:29:30- My wife looks after those.
0:29:31 > 0:29:32- Hello there!
0:29:33 > 0:29:36- Is this your original home, Ieuan?
0:29:36 > 0:29:38- Yes.
0:29:38 > 0:29:41- You've married - but you haven't moved very far.
0:29:42 > 0:29:44- No, just down the road there.
0:29:45 > 0:29:49- It's unusual - you live - in a large village, Llanfairfechan.
0:29:49 > 0:29:54- If this was where I live, - I'd call it a town.
0:29:54 > 0:29:59- But the mountain's nearby. - You get the best of both worlds.
0:30:00 > 0:30:04- Both worlds, yes. - Our fields start just up the road.
0:30:04 > 0:30:06- It's great.
0:30:06 > 0:30:07- Do you work on the farm every day?
0:30:07 > 0:30:09- Do you work on the farm every day?- - Yes.
0:30:09 > 0:30:12- This is Osian. Is he your eldest?
0:30:12 > 0:30:16- Osian's the eldest - he's nine. - My daughter's three.
0:30:16 > 0:30:18- She's at the nursery this morning.
0:30:20 > 0:30:24- It's amazing the way - your father and uncles keep going...
0:30:24 > 0:30:26- ..at 70 years of age.
0:30:27 > 0:30:28- Let's hope you do the same.
0:30:28 > 0:30:29- Let's hope you do the same.- - It's a job keeping up with them!
0:30:29 > 0:30:31- It's a job keeping up with them!
0:30:31 > 0:30:35- It must be good - to be such a big family.
0:30:35 > 0:30:39- Today, everyone's waiting - to go up the mountain.
0:30:39 > 0:30:42- What's the latest we can leave it?
0:30:42 > 0:30:44- It's 10.40 now. Midday?
0:30:45 > 0:30:48- We can't leave it later - than midday...
0:30:48 > 0:30:52- ..or it'll be too dark - by the time we come down.
0:30:53 > 0:30:56- The shepherds are here, - the company's ready to move.
0:30:57 > 0:31:02- We must retain these customs. - If we lose these, we lose Wales.
0:31:02 > 0:31:05- The other brother's here today.
0:31:06 > 0:31:08- Three generations. - Which brother are you?
0:31:09 > 0:31:10- I'm Robert, the eldest.
0:31:11 > 0:31:12- The eldest? And you're his son?
0:31:12 > 0:31:13- The eldest? And you're his son?- - I'm Tudor.
0:31:13 > 0:31:14- I'm Tudor.
0:31:14 > 0:31:16- And you're the grandson?
0:31:16 > 0:31:17- Dewi.
0:31:17 > 0:31:20- Three generations. - I'm fascinated by these generations.
0:31:21 > 0:31:24- The brothers, the sons - and the grandsons.
0:31:24 > 0:31:26- Do you farm on the mountain?
0:31:26 > 0:31:26- Do you farm on the mountain?- - We have land in Llanfairfechan...
0:31:26 > 0:31:28- We have land in Llanfairfechan...
0:31:28 > 0:31:32- ..but we farm outside Bangor. - Coed Hywel is the main farm.
0:31:33 > 0:31:36- You must have many memories - of this place.
0:31:36 > 0:31:39- I remember my uncles here, - years ago.
0:31:39 > 0:31:42- That generation's gone now.
0:31:42 > 0:31:47- But your sons are here - to inherit the things you've done.
0:31:56 > 0:31:59- Back to the wilds and the fog.
0:31:59 > 0:32:02- We're not far from the Carneddau.
0:32:02 > 0:32:07- Just 30 minutes from the village, - we found a very remote spot.
0:32:09 > 0:32:11- What's this place called?
0:32:11 > 0:32:15- It goes up to what we call the Drum.
0:32:15 > 0:32:21- From the stream right up to the top - - we call it the Drum.
0:32:21 > 0:32:25- It's nice here. - The fog stops on that ridge.
0:32:25 > 0:32:30- Several times we've been up here, - and a thick fog descends...
0:32:30 > 0:32:33- ..and then the sheep scatter.
0:32:33 > 0:32:35- You can see the sheep moving.
0:32:36 > 0:32:41- They usually take them further over - before turning over the top.
0:32:43 > 0:32:46- They keep heading back - to their habitats.
0:32:47 > 0:32:52- Some people talk about taking - these flocks off the mountains.
0:32:52 > 0:32:57- Good gracious, you'd have a job - finding a habitat for those sheep...
0:32:57 > 0:33:01- ..or getting the sheep - used to a new place.
0:33:01 > 0:33:04- When Foot & Mouth disease - hit Anglesey...
0:33:05 > 0:33:07- ..we lost 1,200 young sheep.
0:33:07 > 0:33:10- We had to keep older sheep on...
0:33:10 > 0:33:14- ..so that female lambs - could regain the habitat.
0:33:14 > 0:33:19- When you buy sheep - say we sold - a farm and its sheep...
0:33:19 > 0:33:24- ..the buyer would have to buy - the habitat as well.
0:33:24 > 0:33:26- Mountain grazing rights.
0:33:37 > 0:33:40- They've come over the top now.
0:33:40 > 0:33:43- Yes. They're coming down - Foel Lwyd and Drosgl...
0:33:43 > 0:33:46- ..towards Bwlch y Ddeufaen.
0:33:46 > 0:33:50- Then they cross the river - and head for Gwastad Pen Cefn.
0:33:51 > 0:33:52- It's steep over there.
0:33:53 > 0:33:56- It's very steep and craggy.
0:33:56 > 0:33:56- It's very steep and craggy.- - Within sight of the farm, though.
0:33:56 > 0:33:59- Within sight of the farm, though.
0:33:59 > 0:34:01- Yes.
0:34:01 > 0:34:04- They'll come in their own time now.
0:34:13 > 0:34:17- Those fields down by the house - look good.
0:34:17 > 0:34:19- You've been working on them.
0:34:19 > 0:34:23- Yes. My uncle - used to farm that land.
0:34:23 > 0:34:26- He's the one who improved the land.
0:34:26 > 0:34:28- Improved the land?
0:34:28 > 0:34:31- Yes. He worked - and improved the land.
0:34:31 > 0:34:32- That word you used was unfamiliar.
0:34:32 > 0:34:34- That word you used was unfamiliar.- - As you can see...
0:34:34 > 0:34:34- As you can see...
0:34:34 > 0:34:36- ..they're growing silage there.
0:34:37 > 0:34:40- That part where the cattle are, - in the distance...
0:34:41 > 0:34:43- ..we did all that.
0:34:46 > 0:34:50- "Loesi" is the word you use - for ploughing the land.
0:34:50 > 0:34:53- "Loesi." It's an old word.
0:34:53 > 0:34:54- I'm sure it is.
0:34:55 > 0:34:59- How did your forefathers - do this, years ago?
0:34:59 > 0:35:01- Did they walk up here?
0:35:01 > 0:35:04- Did they walk up here?- - Yes. They got up at 2.00am...
0:35:04 > 0:35:09- ..so they could start - rounding up the sheep at daybreak.
0:35:09 > 0:35:12- They'd have been - coming back in pitch darkness...
0:35:13 > 0:35:16- ..if they'd only started out - at daybreak.
0:35:16 > 0:35:22- It's a long way up, about four miles - from the village to the top.
0:35:22 > 0:35:27- Did they have this number - of sheep years ago?
0:35:27 > 0:35:29- Or were there fewer?
0:35:29 > 0:35:30- About the same number.
0:35:31 > 0:35:34- They also kept sheep - for mutton back then...
0:35:34 > 0:35:37- ..what we'd call "myllt" - or "llydnod".
0:35:38 > 0:35:39- Older sheep.
0:35:40 > 0:35:42- We call them "gweddrod".
0:35:42 > 0:35:45- But roughly - the same number of sheep.
0:35:46 > 0:35:50- Mutton has a certain flavour - you don't get with lamb.
0:35:50 > 0:35:52- Was that what you were raised on?
0:35:52 > 0:35:53- Was that what you were raised on?- - Yes, of course.
0:35:53 > 0:35:53- Was that what you were raised on?
0:35:53 > 0:35:53- It did a good job!
0:35:53 > 0:35:54- It did a good job!
0:35:54 > 0:35:55- It did a good job!- - And bread-and-milk.
0:35:55 > 0:35:56- And bread-and-milk.
0:35:57 > 0:36:02- There's a picture of you in the - house that looks quite impressive!
0:36:03 > 0:36:06- Like that bloke - not Humpty Dumpty - - "Ingleberg" Humperdinck...
0:36:07 > 0:36:09- ..Engelbert Humperdinck!
0:36:09 > 0:36:13- Heck, Dai! Humpty Dumpty? - That makes two of us!
0:36:13 > 0:36:17- # Don't ever be too busy,
0:36:17 > 0:36:26- # Come together now to defend - the right of the mountain. #
0:36:32 > 0:36:34- You've got as many as the other day.
0:36:34 > 0:36:35- You've got as many as the other day.- - You know, I was disappointed.
0:36:35 > 0:36:36- You know, I was disappointed.
0:36:37 > 0:36:40- You should have come to help us!
0:36:40 > 0:36:44- We went into the fog, it lifted, - but it fell again.
0:36:45 > 0:36:49- When we went over the top, - the last place...
0:36:49 > 0:36:54- ..and Teg and I are in our 70s - - it was hard going.
0:36:54 > 0:36:55- But it's gone well.
0:36:55 > 0:36:56- But it's gone well.- - You didn't leave many behind.
0:36:56 > 0:36:57- You didn't leave many behind.
0:37:13 > 0:37:13- 888
0:37:13 > 0:37:15- 888
0:37:26 > 0:37:28- With much shouting and barking...
0:37:29 > 0:37:33- ..the sheep were brought down - from the hills and sorted.
0:37:33 > 0:37:36- We're now at the auction - in Gaerwen, Anglesey.
0:37:36 > 0:37:41- The brothers bring four-year-old - sheep to the annual sale.
0:37:41 > 0:37:46- These sheep should do well - for many years on lowland farms.
0:37:46 > 0:37:49- Will they do well in the sale ring?
0:37:50 > 0:37:55- If trade is slow, it's a loss. - If it's brisk, they'll profit.
0:37:57 > 0:38:01- Gaerwen is a long way - to come from Llanfairfechan.
0:38:01 > 0:38:03- Is this where you've always come?
0:38:03 > 0:38:04- Is this where you've always come?- - No.
0:38:04 > 0:38:05- No.
0:38:05 > 0:38:09- Years ago, we had our own sale - in Llanfairfechan.
0:38:09 > 0:38:11- Cattle were also sold there.
0:38:12 > 0:38:18- But the attendance grew smaller, - so we joined another sale.
0:38:18 > 0:38:20- We were with them for years.
0:38:20 > 0:38:25- Then Foot & Mouth struck, - and auctions were cancelled.
0:38:26 > 0:38:29- We've been coming to Gaerwen - ever since.
0:38:29 > 0:38:33- It's a good place, - and it's not too far.
0:38:33 > 0:38:36- Getting them here is the problem.
0:38:52 > 0:38:57- There are 500 sheep, and farmers - can choose what they want.
0:38:57 > 0:39:01- They can buy just one sheep - if they want.
0:39:01 > 0:39:06- That's a three-year-old. - There are some three-year-olds.
0:39:06 > 0:39:08- THE AUCTIONEER SPEAKS RAPIDLY
0:39:08 > 0:39:10- Fair play - three years old.
0:39:12 > 0:39:13- Fair play.
0:39:17 > 0:39:18- 21.
0:39:18 > 0:39:20- No.
0:39:20 > 0:39:24- They've been dosed, dipped - and treated for foot rot.
0:39:24 > 0:39:29- If a few appear lame, don't worry - - they've been treated.
0:39:30 > 0:39:31- Fair play.
0:39:32 > 0:39:36- They're guaranteed. We've been - selling for over 50 years.
0:39:37 > 0:39:39- 21.
0:39:39 > 0:39:43- That's low. - Just look at the length in them.
0:39:43 > 0:39:46- You can cross them - with Border Leicesters, or anything.
0:39:47 > 0:39:49- This depresses me.
0:39:49 > 0:39:54- I'll have a word with my brother, - or I'll be in trouble.
0:39:54 > 0:39:56- What shall I do?
0:39:56 > 0:39:58- It's very low, 21.
0:40:03 > 0:40:05- Well, that's the way it is.
0:40:08 > 0:40:09- Happy?
0:40:09 > 0:40:09- Happy?- - Yes! No - of course I'm not!
0:40:09 > 0:40:12- Yes! No - of course I'm not!
0:40:12 > 0:40:15- No holidays for us next year!
0:40:16 > 0:40:17- It's serious.
0:40:18 > 0:40:20- But they're good, strong sheep.
0:40:20 > 0:40:25- These are the ones you helped us - bring down from the mountain.
0:40:25 > 0:40:29- I hope they'll do better - than the others.
0:40:29 > 0:40:32- THEY WHISTLE AND SHOUT - AT THE SHEEP
0:40:33 > 0:40:38- As God is my witness - - and I was in chapel yesterday...
0:40:39 > 0:40:41- ..so strike me down dead...
0:40:41 > 0:40:44- ..these came off the mountain - last Tuesday.
0:40:45 > 0:40:49- Exactly the same type. - You're getting a huge bargain.
0:40:50 > 0:40:51- Fair play.
0:40:51 > 0:40:53- You know.
0:40:53 > 0:40:57- You know how old they are - - between three and four.
0:40:57 > 0:40:59- Three-year-old, look.
0:40:59 > 0:41:01- This is very depressing.
0:41:03 > 0:41:05- I thought I'd get a bit more.
0:41:05 > 0:41:06- I thought I'd get a bit more.- - Happy, Teg?
0:41:06 > 0:41:07- Happy, Teg?
0:41:07 > 0:41:08- No, not at all.
0:41:08 > 0:41:09- No, not at all.- - How much did you get last year?
0:41:09 > 0:41:11- How much did you get last year?
0:41:11 > 0:41:12- 28 last year.
0:41:13 > 0:41:14- That's 7 difference.
0:41:15 > 0:41:19- Everyone's saying prices are up - but they're down, really.
0:41:21 > 0:41:23- 21.
0:41:25 > 0:41:28- You're working hard, Rol. - You're working hard.
0:41:28 > 0:41:30- It's a tough job.
0:41:30 > 0:41:32- Tougher than being on the mountain.
0:41:33 > 0:41:34- I don't doubt it!
0:41:35 > 0:41:39- They don't believe they've just - come down from the mountain.
0:41:40 > 0:41:42- If they knew, they'd pay more!
0:41:42 > 0:41:46- All of these were sired - by selected rams.
0:41:46 > 0:41:48- They've cost us pounds.
0:41:48 > 0:41:52- Are you happy - with an average of about 20?
0:41:52 > 0:41:53- It could have been better.
0:41:53 > 0:41:54- It could have been better.- - It could have been a lot worse.
0:41:54 > 0:41:56- It could have been a lot worse.
0:41:56 > 0:41:58- They're strong sheep, too.
0:41:58 > 0:42:01- You can see that. They're very good.
0:42:01 > 0:42:03- Watch out, boys.
0:42:03 > 0:42:05- How do you feel, Ieu? Happy?
0:42:06 > 0:42:09- Of course! - If the boys are happy, I'm happy!
0:42:10 > 0:42:13- Bring them back - if you're not satisfied.
0:42:16 > 0:42:17- 21.
0:42:18 > 0:42:20- Those are good ewes they're getting.
0:42:21 > 0:42:25- We used to get 33 in the '60s.
0:42:25 > 0:42:26- You'll sleep fine tonight.
0:42:26 > 0:42:27- You'll sleep fine tonight.- - No, I won't.
0:42:27 > 0:42:27- No, I won't.
0:42:28 > 0:42:30- You will, because you're tired!
0:42:32 > 0:42:34- This lot's better still.
0:42:35 > 0:42:38- You know your sheep - anyway, Dai Jones!
0:42:43 > 0:42:45- These are from a different habitat.
0:42:46 > 0:42:49- They're what they call - "defaid gerlan".
0:42:49 > 0:42:52- They come from the top - of the mountain.
0:42:55 > 0:42:56- Last Tuesday...
0:42:56 > 0:42:56- Last Tuesday...- - THE AUCTIONEER SPEAKS
0:42:56 > 0:42:57- THE AUCTIONEER SPEAKS
0:42:57 > 0:42:59- Hang on - Dai, tell them...
0:42:59 > 0:43:02- ..last Tuesday - these came off the mountain.
0:43:03 > 0:43:04- Why can't he speak up for me?!
0:43:04 > 0:43:06- Why can't he speak up for me?!- - Late at night too.
0:43:06 > 0:43:08- They were late coming down.
0:43:22 > 0:43:23- You did well.
0:43:24 > 0:43:27- I didn't think - they'd believe you were there!
0:43:27 > 0:43:31- How did those prices - compare with last year?
0:43:31 > 0:43:35- Wait a minute - about 27 - last year - that's 6 less.
0:43:37 > 0:43:40- It could have been worse, though.
0:43:40 > 0:43:44- Thanks, but that's not really - how I feel...
0:43:44 > 0:43:49- ..though things might turn out - better by the end of the sale.
0:43:49 > 0:43:54- They're strong sheep, otherwise - you wouldn't have sold so many.
0:43:54 > 0:43:56- Just give them a cross-bred ram.
0:43:57 > 0:44:00- Farmers won't spend money - in an insecure market.
0:44:00 > 0:44:04- Lamb prices are low. - We can't buck the market.
0:44:04 > 0:44:05- If the money's not there, you can't.
0:44:05 > 0:44:07- If the money's not there, you can't.- - Just hope it'll pick up.
0:44:07 > 0:44:10- These ewes - will give them two seasons.
0:44:10 > 0:44:13- Well, you can comfort each other.
0:44:13 > 0:44:16- You're in the ring - - are you the spokesman?
0:44:16 > 0:44:17- I get a row sometimes!
0:44:17 > 0:44:19- I get a row sometimes!- - Mam always said...
0:44:19 > 0:44:19- Mam always said...
0:44:19 > 0:44:22- ..he'd be a preacher - or an auctioneer!
0:44:26 > 0:44:30- Yes, the sheep were 6 - down on last year.
0:44:30 > 0:44:33- They'll have to claw that money - back somehow.
0:44:34 > 0:44:39- It's good to get back to the hills - to see the cattle.
0:44:39 > 0:44:42- They live in a wonderful place.
0:44:42 > 0:44:46- I've never seen cattle - living so high up.
0:44:46 > 0:44:47- How high are we?
0:44:47 > 0:44:48- How high are we?- - About 1,000ft, I should think.
0:44:48 > 0:44:49- About 1,000ft, I should think.
0:44:52 > 0:44:56- You've gone Continental - - you use Continental bulls.
0:44:56 > 0:44:58- Yes - Blonde d'Aquitaine.
0:44:58 > 0:45:00- We bought two bulls in Carlisle.
0:45:02 > 0:45:04- They cost about 3,000.
0:45:05 > 0:45:07- Before that, we used Limousins.
0:45:08 > 0:45:12- But they weren't very good. - These are a bit better.
0:45:14 > 0:45:16- And the calving's easier.
0:45:16 > 0:45:17- Yes, they just slip out.
0:45:17 > 0:45:18- Yes, they just slip out.- - They're better than Charolais.
0:45:18 > 0:45:19- They're better than Charolais.
0:45:19 > 0:45:20- Oh yes.
0:45:21 > 0:45:25- Calving after lambing - you must - have been tired out after that.
0:45:27 > 0:45:30- It was a lot of work.
0:45:30 > 0:45:35- It's nearly the end of September. - When will you bring them in?
0:45:36 > 0:45:38- They'll soon need feeding.
0:45:38 > 0:45:40- In about three weeks.
0:45:40 > 0:45:40- In about three weeks.- - We've got heavy coats on...
0:45:40 > 0:45:42- We've got heavy coats on...
0:45:42 > 0:45:43- ..but Rol's in his shirt sleeves!
0:45:43 > 0:45:45- ..but Rol's in his shirt sleeves!- - It's not terribly cold.
0:45:45 > 0:45:45- ..but Rol's in his shirt sleeves!
0:45:45 > 0:45:47- It's not terribly cold today.
0:45:55 > 0:46:00- It's the end of October, - and today's a big day.
0:46:00 > 0:46:03- The weather hasn't been bad, - but it's windy.
0:46:04 > 0:46:08- The neighbours have gathered - to bring in the ponies...
0:46:08 > 0:46:10- ..and sort out the foals.
0:46:10 > 0:46:13- It's a day and a half!
0:46:31 > 0:46:34- This is important to me.
0:46:34 > 0:46:39- My father, in his Will, - left the ponies to Teg and me.
0:46:39 > 0:46:44- We sold the weaker ones, - and we have good ponies now.
0:46:44 > 0:46:48- I saw a nice white one - on the mountain.
0:46:48 > 0:46:54- We sold 150 foals and ponies last - year, and 150 the year before.
0:46:54 > 0:46:57- How long will they stay here?
0:46:57 > 0:46:58- Will you pick out the foals?
0:46:58 > 0:47:00- Will you pick out the foals?- - Yes. They'll be here for two weeks.
0:47:00 > 0:47:02- Yes. They'll be here for two weeks.
0:47:02 > 0:47:05- Step back a bit.
0:47:11 > 0:47:13- They're nice ponies.
0:47:13 > 0:47:15- They're in very good condition.
0:47:15 > 0:47:17- They're all looking good.
0:47:18 > 0:47:20- Hey! Steady on, boys!
0:47:20 > 0:47:22- There they go. Lovely.
0:47:22 > 0:47:27- Rol, you have excellent neighbours. - They've brought all the ponies down.
0:47:27 > 0:47:29- Yes, we have...
0:47:49 > 0:47:51- Yes, we have good neighbours.
0:47:53 > 0:47:54- You couldn't find better.
0:47:55 > 0:47:58- Our children's children - are getting involved now.
0:47:58 > 0:48:01- There's an excellent generation - coming up.
0:48:01 > 0:48:05- It's good to see - them taking an interest...
0:48:05 > 0:48:08- ..and keeping - the old traditions alive.
0:48:09 > 0:48:12- You can't learn these things - at college.
0:48:12 > 0:48:15- They have to learn from childhood.
0:48:16 > 0:48:18- How many acres do you have in all?
0:48:18 > 0:48:20- How many acres do you have in all?- - We have over 2,000 acres...
0:48:20 > 0:48:21- We have over 2,000 acres...
0:48:21 > 0:48:25- ..all told, - from Penmaenmawr to Anglesey.
0:48:25 > 0:48:29- And that's just lowland. - You also have the mountain.
0:48:29 > 0:48:32- We graze 5,000 acres - on the mountain.
0:48:32 > 0:48:35- We have over 4,000 mountain sheep.
0:48:36 > 0:48:39- I remember my father - telling Uncle Wil...
0:48:39 > 0:48:43- .."Wil, my boys will never work - for anyone except me."
0:48:44 > 0:48:47- We're still working for him, - although he's dead.
0:49:13 > 0:49:16- MOBILE PHONE, GIGGLING
0:49:16 > 0:49:17- Sorry.
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