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0:00:19 > 0:00:24- I'm making my way up from one of - Wales's most well-known valleys...
0:00:25 > 0:00:27- ..Cwm Hafod Oer in Meirionnydd.
0:00:27 > 0:00:30- I'm on my way to Gwanas Farm.
0:00:31 > 0:00:33- Tom Gwanas's name...
0:00:33 > 0:00:37- ..and indeed the name Gwanas itself - is familiar to everyone.
0:00:37 > 0:00:40- I'm looking forward - to seeing these hills.
0:00:41 > 0:00:45- Tom and his brother Trebor - tell me they've worked hard here.
0:00:46 > 0:00:49- # CAN YR ARAD GOCH # - Piano Introduction
0:00:50 > 0:00:55- # If you'd like to know - how a man like me lives,
0:00:57 > 0:01:03- # From my father, - I learned mankind's first craft,
0:01:06 > 0:01:11- # I learned how to turn a bog - into a fertile green meadow,
0:01:11 > 0:01:17- # To turn a bare wilderness - into green earth. #
0:01:19 > 0:01:21- The enchanting voice of Tom Gwanas.
0:01:22 > 0:01:25- This voice has won two Blue Ribands.
0:01:25 > 0:01:29- Tom has lived at Gwanas Farm - in Meirionnydd all his life.
0:01:30 > 0:01:32- His family is very musical...
0:01:32 > 0:01:36- ..and it has also produced - excellent hill farmers.
0:01:36 > 0:01:42- # I follow the red plough - on the great mountain. #
0:01:42 > 0:01:46- # But the ancient language - still lives on,
0:01:46 > 0:01:51- # And the ancient songs endure,
0:01:52 > 0:01:59- # But the ancient language - still lives on. #
0:02:03 > 0:02:06- Dic Pennal always said, - when we passed this way...
0:02:07 > 0:02:09- .."Old Gwanas is a big place."
0:02:09 > 0:02:13- He was right, too. - What a place you've got here!
0:02:13 > 0:02:17- I don't have many fields lower down, - mind you.
0:02:17 > 0:02:18- Most of them are up here.
0:02:18 > 0:02:19- Most of them are up here.- - How far up do you go?
0:02:19 > 0:02:21- How far up do you go?
0:02:21 > 0:02:24- Right up to the summit.
0:02:24 > 0:02:28- There's a dip - like a small valley over there.
0:02:28 > 0:02:31- Yes. That part's called - Ceunant y Gigfran.
0:02:31 > 0:02:35- You don't do any lambing - up here do you?
0:02:35 > 0:02:38- Oh, yes. - Lambing takes place up here.
0:02:38 > 0:02:40- That's where a bike comes in handy.
0:02:40 > 0:02:41- That's where a bike comes in handy.- - You've got sheep up here...
0:02:41 > 0:02:42- You've got sheep up here...
0:02:42 > 0:02:44- ..and I've seen cattle too.
0:02:45 > 0:02:45- You graze cattle up here too.
0:02:45 > 0:02:47- You graze cattle up here too.- - Yes, they come up here.
0:02:47 > 0:02:48- Yes, they come up here.
0:02:48 > 0:02:52- It's time for them to go in though. - It's wet.
0:02:53 > 0:02:56- This old soil has endured very well.
0:02:56 > 0:02:57- Yes.
0:02:58 > 0:03:02- It's difficult for you - to improve the soil on the slopes...
0:03:02 > 0:03:06- ..but there are some - nice green spots in places.
0:03:06 > 0:03:11- A year ago, I got a helicopter - to spray the bracken.
0:03:11 > 0:03:12- It did a very good job.
0:03:12 > 0:03:14- It did a very good job.- - Expensive, though...
0:03:14 > 0:03:14- It did a very good job.
0:03:14 > 0:03:14- ..but what else can you do?
0:03:14 > 0:03:16- ..but what else can you do?
0:03:16 > 0:03:20- There'd be nothing for animals - to eat otherwise.
0:03:20 > 0:03:23- Is this where your roots are?
0:03:23 > 0:03:27- Didn't your father - come from Cwm Hafod Oer?
0:03:27 > 0:03:29- Yes, lower down there.
0:03:29 > 0:03:30- What about your mother?
0:03:30 > 0:03:30- What about your mother?- - She came from just over the ridge.
0:03:30 > 0:03:32- She came from just over the ridge.
0:03:33 > 0:03:35- Looking for shelter, was she?!
0:03:35 > 0:03:39- There was a well-worn path here - before they married!
0:03:40 > 0:03:45- I can't think of a bleaker name - than Cwm Hafod Oer.
0:03:46 > 0:03:49- This valley is very bare.
0:03:49 > 0:03:51- There aren't many trees.
0:03:51 > 0:03:52- Very few trees.
0:03:53 > 0:03:55- That's how it's always been.
0:03:55 > 0:03:58- But there are some trees - growing here now.
0:03:58 > 0:04:00- How far does your land extend?
0:04:00 > 0:04:01- How far does your land extend?- - As far as the Dinas road...
0:04:01 > 0:04:02- As far as the Dinas road...
0:04:02 > 0:04:05- ..up to Pen y Bwlch.
0:04:06 > 0:04:10- You live between Bwlch yr Oerddrws - and Cwm Hafod Oer...
0:04:10 > 0:04:12- ..you need two overcoats!
0:04:14 > 0:04:15- And thermals!
0:04:18 > 0:04:22- This is the first time - I've seen this view.
0:04:23 > 0:04:26- It's a lovely view, isn't it?
0:04:26 > 0:04:28- Do these fields have names?
0:04:28 > 0:04:32- I sincerely hope people don't forget - the Welsh names given to fields.
0:04:33 > 0:04:35- Yes. Sons should be told.
0:04:35 > 0:04:39- It's so important. - Names are better than numbers.
0:04:39 > 0:04:43- I know the names - of most of these fields.
0:04:43 > 0:04:45- That's Foel Caerynwch over there.
0:04:46 > 0:04:50- The small house down there - is called Tyddyn Llwyn.
0:04:52 > 0:04:56- It's amazing how much land - there is up here.
0:04:56 > 0:04:58- Did farmers work together up here?
0:04:58 > 0:04:58- Did farmers work together up here?- - Yes, we used to help each other.
0:04:58 > 0:05:01- Yes, we used to help each other.
0:05:02 > 0:05:04- Shearing was done at Gwanas.
0:05:04 > 0:05:07- Sheep had to brought over - from Mynydd Bylan.
0:05:07 > 0:05:14- We had to walk up the moors - all the way to the top.
0:05:15 > 0:05:18- That's not the best land - for walking!
0:05:18 > 0:05:21- Walking in those conditions - is exhausting.
0:05:21 > 0:05:25- Do you have any land - on the other side?
0:05:25 > 0:05:27- Not much.
0:05:27 > 0:05:31- There's Mynydd Bylan, Mynydd - Tyddyn Du, Mynydd Hafod Oer...
0:05:31 > 0:05:35- ..and Mynydd Cefn Naw Clawdd, - in the distance.
0:05:36 > 0:05:41- An outsider would be amazed that - you can remember all the names...
0:05:41 > 0:05:44- ..but they're a part of you.
0:05:53 > 0:05:56- Moments like these - can stir your blood.
0:05:57 > 0:06:02- Tom is fortunate to have a son, - Geraint, to follow him.
0:06:02 > 0:06:06- He likes sheep but he's particularly - interested in cattle.
0:06:06 > 0:06:10- This is a fairly new breed - - the Stabiliser.
0:06:21 > 0:06:24- The weather's very changeable, - isn't it?
0:06:24 > 0:06:26- What's this Stabiliser breed?
0:06:26 > 0:06:31- They must be quite hardy, - or you wouldn't be keeping them.
0:06:31 > 0:06:33- It's cold here in winter.
0:06:34 > 0:06:38- The Stabiliser - is made up of four breeds.
0:06:39 > 0:06:44- Two of the breeds are British - and the other two are Continental.
0:06:46 > 0:06:48- Is there any Aberdeen in them?
0:06:48 > 0:06:49- Is there any Aberdeen in them?- - Yes.
0:06:49 > 0:06:50- Yes.
0:06:50 > 0:06:53- Hereford and Angus - are the British breeds.
0:06:54 > 0:06:58- The Continental breeds - are Gelbvieh and Simmental.
0:07:00 > 0:07:04- Maybe you won't get a Lim's backside - with them...
0:07:04 > 0:07:09- ..but they have a good width - and good sides - a decent size.
0:07:10 > 0:07:15- Their backs are wider, and that's - where the most expensive meat is.
0:07:15 > 0:07:18- Would you say they're best - for producing dams...
0:07:19 > 0:07:23- ..where you don't need a cow - with too much milk?
0:07:23 > 0:07:27- Yes, that's the idea - - to produce a breeding cow.
0:07:27 > 0:07:33- It seems that your ideas are coming - to the fore here at Gwanas.
0:07:33 > 0:07:37- Is this what you intend to do? - Keep suckler cattle?
0:07:37 > 0:07:40- Yes. The problem is - Dad's getting slower...
0:07:40 > 0:07:44- ..and he can't run after Limousins - these days!
0:07:46 > 0:07:49- Stabiliser cows and calves - are a lot more tame.
0:07:50 > 0:07:50- You've noticed that, have you?
0:07:50 > 0:07:52- You've noticed that, have you?- - Yes. They're easier to manage.
0:07:52 > 0:07:53- Yes. They're easier to manage.
0:08:03 > 0:08:06- We heard Tom - singing Ceiriog's lyrics...
0:08:06 > 0:08:09- .."From my father - I learned mankind's first craft."
0:08:10 > 0:08:14- One of those crafts - is building dry stone walls.
0:08:14 > 0:08:18- These farms wouldn't be the same - without them.
0:08:21 > 0:08:25- Many generations of his family - have been building these walls.
0:08:25 > 0:08:29- Tom himself - has been doing it for years.
0:08:34 > 0:08:38- Placing poles in a stone wall - is a tricky job.
0:08:38 > 0:08:41- It's difficult to get them in - firmly.
0:08:42 > 0:08:45- Big stones - force your poles out of line.
0:08:45 > 0:08:50- It's amazing how much shelter - these walls provide for young lambs.
0:08:50 > 0:08:51- They like these stone walls.
0:08:51 > 0:08:53- They like these stone walls.- - At lambing time...
0:08:53 > 0:08:53- They like these stone walls.
0:08:54 > 0:08:57- ..you should see all the sheep - gathered here.
0:08:59 > 0:09:00- That's a good wall.
0:09:01 > 0:09:04- Are you with the Tir Gofal scheme?
0:09:04 > 0:09:05- You've put up conservation fences.
0:09:05 > 0:09:07- You've put up conservation fences.- - Yes.
0:09:07 > 0:09:07- Yes.
0:09:08 > 0:09:11- You imagine you provide shelter - with stone walls...
0:09:11 > 0:09:13- ..but these stones are cold.
0:09:13 > 0:09:13- ..but these stones are cold.- - They're fine when they've warmed up.
0:09:13 > 0:09:15- They're fine when they've warmed up.
0:09:15 > 0:09:20- You've got lots of cattle, - and they're doing well.
0:09:20 > 0:09:24- Down to feed once a day, - then up the hill again?
0:09:25 > 0:09:29- Yes, they're fed once a day - at the moment.
0:09:29 > 0:09:33- What would we do without silage - and big bales?
0:09:33 > 0:09:35- They're a blessing.
0:09:35 > 0:09:39- It would be difficult - to produce enough hay for all these.
0:09:40 > 0:09:42- The summers are so dry.
0:09:44 > 0:09:47- Years ago, there were cowsheds - around the place...
0:09:47 > 0:09:50- ..one down there and one over there.
0:09:51 > 0:09:54- Hay had to be carried - to those cowsheds.
0:09:54 > 0:09:59- You must have spent all day - going round the cowsheds!
0:09:59 > 0:10:01- We've got bikes nowadays.
0:10:01 > 0:10:04- They have four legs - - we've only got two.
0:10:06 > 0:10:09- When I look down - from the mountain...
0:10:09 > 0:10:13- ..I see traffic moving between - Machynlleth and Dolgellau...
0:10:13 > 0:10:15- ..and from Dinas.
0:10:15 > 0:10:19- It's a busy spot - to keep cattle and sheep.
0:10:19 > 0:10:19- Yes, it's difficult.
0:10:19 > 0:10:20- Yes, it's difficult.- - You're on a crossroads.
0:10:20 > 0:10:21- You're on a crossroads.
0:10:21 > 0:10:23- I lost a dog recently.
0:10:24 > 0:10:27- A car hit it on the road.
0:10:27 > 0:10:29- You can't afford to lose a good dog.
0:10:29 > 0:10:31- You can't afford to lose a good dog.- - No.
0:10:31 > 0:10:31- No.
0:10:33 > 0:10:36- Have you finished with this wall - for today?
0:10:36 > 0:10:38- Yes, I've finished.
0:10:39 > 0:10:45- # Beside the lake, - beneath the boughs,
0:10:46 > 0:10:52- # So long ago,
0:10:52 > 0:10:59- # There, watching the waves moving
0:11:00 > 0:11:08- # Back and forth.
0:11:11 > 0:11:18- # I remember one - so gentle and charming,
0:11:18 > 0:11:24- # My foolish heart,
0:11:25 > 0:11:30- # Then came cold autumn, - So long ago. #
0:11:31 > 0:11:33- Don't break it... there.
0:11:37 > 0:11:40- You're doing a good job here, Tom.
0:11:41 > 0:11:43- Extending the space for feeding.
0:11:43 > 0:11:44- Extending the space for feeding.- - The concrete has set well.
0:11:44 > 0:11:45- The concrete has set well.
0:11:45 > 0:11:47- Yes. It was muddy.
0:11:47 > 0:11:49- Concrete's easier to keep clean.
0:11:51 > 0:11:55- Was it ready-mixed, - or did you mix it?
0:11:55 > 0:11:59- We mixed it. We get the gravel - from a local quarry.
0:12:00 > 0:12:01- It's a good building.
0:12:02 > 0:12:05- It's healthy too. - The cows won't catch pneumonia.
0:12:06 > 0:12:07- Yes, it's healthy.
0:12:08 > 0:12:11- I like that thing - for flattening concrete.
0:12:11 > 0:12:13- Oh, yes.
0:12:13 > 0:12:16- You're like me - - you don't like bending over.
0:12:16 > 0:12:20- It's a hell of a job - when you have to kneel.
0:12:21 > 0:12:24- I'm at Gwanas - and I'm reminded of that song...
0:12:25 > 0:12:27- ..'Wrth Fynd Efo Deio I Dywyn'.
0:12:27 > 0:12:30- You're mentioned in that song.
0:12:30 > 0:12:31- That's right.
0:12:31 > 0:12:32- How does it go?
0:12:32 > 0:12:33- How does it go?- - "Bread and cheese...
0:12:33 > 0:12:34- "Bread and cheese...
0:12:34 > 0:12:35- "..and tea at Gwanas."
0:12:35 > 0:12:37- "..and tea at Gwanas."- - You need bread and cheese...
0:12:37 > 0:12:37- "..and tea at Gwanas."
0:12:37 > 0:12:38- ..doing a job like this!
0:12:38 > 0:12:40- ..doing a job like this!- - Was that a hint?!
0:12:40 > 0:12:40- ..doing a job like this!
0:12:42 > 0:12:48- # On we went, past Dinas, - Tra la la la la la la la la la la,
0:12:48 > 0:12:54- # We had bread and cheese at Gwanas, - Tra la la la la la la la la la la,
0:12:54 > 0:13:00- # Through Talyllyn we went directly, - Tra la la la la la la la la,
0:13:01 > 0:13:09- # When I went with Deio to Tywyn, - Tra la la la la la la la la la la. #
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0:13:25 > 0:13:29- November 2006 was a historic time - for the family.
0:13:29 > 0:13:34- Nia and Geraint moved in - with their children, Robin and Meg.
0:13:38 > 0:13:41- The fun of moving - delighted the children.
0:13:42 > 0:13:45- Make sure all the books are there!
0:13:46 > 0:13:48- Of course...
0:13:48 > 0:13:52- ..this young family remembers - moving in here, many years ago.
0:13:53 > 0:13:57- The sweet face of Glesni - who died in tragic circumstances.
0:14:02 > 0:14:04- Will you help me?
0:14:04 > 0:14:09- I'll try. Don't give me anything - valuable in case I drop it!
0:14:10 > 0:14:11- Let's start with this.
0:14:11 > 0:14:11- Let's start with this.- - That's a good picture...
0:14:11 > 0:14:13- That's a good picture...
0:14:13 > 0:14:14- ..cattle on the mountain.
0:14:14 > 0:14:15- ..cattle on the mountain.- - With Cader Idris in the background.
0:14:15 > 0:14:16- With Cader Idris in the background.
0:14:17 > 0:14:18- Shall I put them in here?
0:14:18 > 0:14:20- Shall I put them in here?- - That's right.
0:14:20 > 0:14:20- Shall I put them in here?
0:14:20 > 0:14:20- Pack them like this.
0:14:20 > 0:14:22- Pack them like this.
0:14:23 > 0:14:24- That's the way.
0:14:24 > 0:14:27- I'm leaving this here. - It's Geraint's.
0:14:28 > 0:14:29- He won it.
0:14:30 > 0:14:31- An environmental award.
0:14:32 > 0:14:34- That's a picture of Glesni.
0:14:34 > 0:14:39- We were unfortunate to lose Glesni - while she was away travelling.
0:14:39 > 0:14:42- She died in Bangkok 15 years ago.
0:14:42 > 0:14:44- Moving is quite a job.
0:14:44 > 0:14:46- Yes, it is.
0:14:46 > 0:14:49- Here's a rare item - I've never seen before.
0:14:49 > 0:14:52- Everyone who's won - the Blue Riband twice.
0:14:53 > 0:14:58- Not many have managed it. - One, two, three, four, five, six.
0:14:58 > 0:15:01- Two... three of them - are from Meirionnydd.
0:15:01 > 0:15:02- That's right. I'd noticed that.
0:15:02 > 0:15:03- That's right. I'd noticed that.- - Wil Prysor, Tom and Dic.
0:15:03 > 0:15:05- Wil Prysor, Tom and Dic.
0:15:05 > 0:15:06- Three bassists.
0:15:06 > 0:15:09- Bob Bach was a character, too.
0:15:09 > 0:15:12- There's a lot - of talent in Meirionnydd.
0:15:12 > 0:15:15- They're big singers - to look at - tall.
0:15:16 > 0:15:18- Here's his latest certificate.
0:15:18 > 0:15:20- The Blue Riband in Pembrokeshire.
0:15:20 > 0:15:24- Here's an old picture. - We're taking it with us...
0:15:24 > 0:15:26- ..Tom driving sheep.
0:15:26 > 0:15:30- That's Morris Caerynwch. - Tom's there somewhere.
0:15:30 > 0:15:36- You can tell how long ago it was - by looking at the cars.
0:15:36 > 0:15:37- The '50s, probably.
0:15:37 > 0:15:38- The '50s, probably.- - There's a Standard 10.
0:15:38 > 0:15:39- There's a Standard 10.
0:15:39 > 0:15:42- I had a Standard 10.
0:15:42 > 0:15:45- The gearstick - was the strongest thing about it!
0:15:45 > 0:15:46- It couldn't even overtake a bike!
0:15:46 > 0:15:48- It couldn't even overtake a bike!- - These are pictures...
0:15:48 > 0:15:48- These are pictures...
0:15:48 > 0:15:52- ..of my grandmother's home, - Pantyneuadd, in Parc.
0:15:52 > 0:15:53- Here's Nain, carrying bread.
0:15:53 > 0:15:54- Here's Nain, carrying bread.- - Look at the size of those loaves!
0:15:54 > 0:15:55- Look at the size of those loaves!
0:15:56 > 0:16:00- That's Aunt Mari, my father's - sister, with a load of bread.
0:16:00 > 0:16:03- Here's another photograph, - by the big oven.
0:16:04 > 0:16:06- They worked hard, didn't they?
0:16:06 > 0:16:08- Here's my favourite.
0:16:09 > 0:16:13- There's a side of bacon - hanging at the top.
0:16:13 > 0:16:16- Aunt Meinir played that harp.
0:16:17 > 0:16:18- Have you heard of Hywel Wood?
0:16:18 > 0:16:19- Have you heard of Hywel Wood?- - Yes, Hywel Wood.
0:16:19 > 0:16:20- Yes, Hywel Wood.
0:16:20 > 0:16:22- That's him.
0:16:22 > 0:16:25- Nain, of course, - used a smaller table.
0:16:25 > 0:16:28- This is a photograph from the '40s.
0:16:29 > 0:16:33- It brings back happy memories - of my childhood.
0:16:33 > 0:16:35- Let's pack these then.
0:16:35 > 0:16:38- These mean a lot to me.
0:16:38 > 0:16:40- Tom's busy polishing.
0:16:41 > 0:16:44- Here's a picture of Bethan.
0:16:44 > 0:16:48- She'd had a makeover - in somewhere or other.
0:16:48 > 0:16:53- It's a wonder she sat still - long enough to take a picture!
0:16:53 > 0:16:55- She's not too proud of that.
0:16:56 > 0:16:57- Right.
0:16:57 > 0:16:57- Right.- - You're only moving a few miles...
0:16:57 > 0:16:59- You're only moving a few miles...
0:16:59 > 0:17:02- ..but everything has to be moved.
0:17:02 > 0:17:04- Yes.
0:17:05 > 0:17:08- I'm leaving this calendar - until the last moment.
0:17:08 > 0:17:13- You won't need a clock - or a calendar after retiring!
0:17:14 > 0:17:19- I see you've left the files - and the bills for Geraint!
0:17:19 > 0:17:21- Geraint can sort those out.
0:17:22 > 0:17:25- And these keys... - it's all last-minute!
0:17:46 > 0:17:48- I'll have to watch this step.
0:17:48 > 0:17:50- What about this old clock?
0:17:50 > 0:17:51- What about this old clock?- - That was handed down.
0:17:51 > 0:17:51- That was handed down.
0:17:52 > 0:17:53- Griffith Davis, Dolgellau.
0:17:55 > 0:17:58- That came from Hafod Oer.
0:17:58 > 0:18:03- The Gwanas family has long - played its part in Welsh singing.
0:18:03 > 0:18:06- The late Llew Evans - was Tom's father.
0:18:06 > 0:18:10- Tom's mother loves - coming back here to visit.
0:18:10 > 0:18:14- It's great to see you back here, - Mrs Evans.
0:18:14 > 0:18:15- You must have many sweet memories.
0:18:15 > 0:18:16- You must have many sweet memories.- - Yes, very sweet.
0:18:16 > 0:18:16- You must have many sweet memories.
0:18:17 > 0:18:21- There was plenty of work - to do here back then.
0:18:22 > 0:18:25- How many children do you have?
0:18:25 > 0:18:28- We all know Tom and Trebor.
0:18:28 > 0:18:30- The others were girls, weren't they?
0:18:31 > 0:18:32- Yes.
0:18:32 > 0:18:35- The eldest is a girl.
0:18:35 > 0:18:36- She lives in Llwyngwril.
0:18:36 > 0:18:36- She lives in Llwyngwril.- - She conducted Llwyngwril choir...
0:18:36 > 0:18:37- She conducted Llwyngwril choir...
0:18:37 > 0:18:39- ..for many years.
0:18:39 > 0:18:41- Yes, in Machynlleth.
0:18:42 > 0:18:44- The youngest is in California.
0:18:45 > 0:18:48- Did you ever get the opportunity - to go there?
0:18:49 > 0:18:51- I've been there eight times.
0:18:52 > 0:18:52- California?
0:18:52 > 0:18:53- California?- - Yes.
0:18:53 > 0:18:54- Yes.
0:18:54 > 0:18:55- You don't drive, do you?
0:18:55 > 0:18:56- You don't drive, do you?- - No.
0:18:56 > 0:18:57- No.
0:18:57 > 0:18:59- You get around, nevertheless!
0:19:00 > 0:19:03- Singing has always been important - in your family.
0:19:04 > 0:19:06- Yes, it always has been.
0:19:07 > 0:19:09- You and your husband sang.
0:19:09 > 0:19:11- You and your husband sang.- - Yes. We often sang together...
0:19:12 > 0:19:13- ..often in chapel.
0:19:14 > 0:19:19- If there was a Communion service, - they asked us to sing a duet.
0:19:19 > 0:19:22- We sang in Salem many times.
0:19:23 > 0:19:26- You raised children here. - It's a big farm.
0:19:26 > 0:19:29- Was there a lot of work?
0:19:29 > 0:19:35- We had three workers and - four children who had to be fed.
0:19:35 > 0:19:37- Sometimes, we received help.
0:19:39 > 0:19:42- Then, when our eldest daughter - finished school...
0:19:42 > 0:19:45- ..she was able to help us.
0:19:46 > 0:19:48- But everyone had to be fed.
0:19:48 > 0:19:49- But everyone had to be fed.- - Did you make your own butter?
0:19:49 > 0:19:50- Did you make your own butter?
0:19:50 > 0:19:52- Twice a week, sometimes.
0:19:52 > 0:19:54- Did you make butter here?
0:19:54 > 0:19:55- Did you make butter here?- - Yes, here.
0:19:55 > 0:19:55- Yes, here.
0:19:57 > 0:20:01- This area used to be all stone - on both sides.
0:20:01 > 0:20:06- This is where we made butter - which we sold in Dolgellau.
0:20:06 > 0:20:08- You must be very happy.
0:20:08 > 0:20:14- Tom and Mair are moving out, and - their son, Geraint, is moving in.
0:20:14 > 0:20:17- That must make you very happy.
0:20:17 > 0:20:18- The same family's still living here.
0:20:18 > 0:20:20- The same family's still living here.- - It's important.
0:20:20 > 0:20:20- It's important.
0:20:20 > 0:20:21- Yes, it's important.
0:20:22 > 0:20:25- Perhaps their children - will be singers too.
0:20:25 > 0:20:30- If that's what Nain wants, - I'm sure they'll do their best.
0:20:43 > 0:20:45- No money - nothing inside!
0:20:45 > 0:20:48- Just dust and a spider!
0:20:50 > 0:20:55- Tom and Mair are lucky to have - their children living nearby.
0:20:55 > 0:21:00- They're all helping with the move, - so Tom won't be landed with a bill!
0:21:00 > 0:21:04- I bet you had fun here - when you were young.
0:21:05 > 0:21:08- I've never seen such a big porch.
0:21:08 > 0:21:11- If I'd been naughty, - they locked me upstairs...
0:21:12 > 0:21:16- ..and I used to escape - through the window by climbing down!
0:21:17 > 0:21:19- There used to be ivy growing there.
0:21:19 > 0:21:21- The place holds memories.
0:21:21 > 0:21:23- Dad's moving down the road.
0:21:24 > 0:21:27- But this will still be - the family home - Gwanas.
0:21:28 > 0:21:33- You're known as Bethan Gwanas, and - that's how you'll always be known.
0:21:33 > 0:21:35- It's the same with Llinos.
0:21:35 > 0:21:37- In Bala...
0:21:37 > 0:21:42- ..if someone shouts "Gwanas!" I turn - around but it's Llinos they want!
0:21:42 > 0:21:46- I won't ask - which of you is the eldest!
0:21:46 > 0:21:50- Llinos is the most petite, - but you play rugby.
0:21:50 > 0:21:53- Yes. Bethan used to play too.
0:21:53 > 0:21:56- But you still play, don't you?
0:21:56 > 0:21:59- With what team do you play?
0:21:59 > 0:22:01- Bala women's team.
0:22:01 > 0:22:05- And there are enough women - to form a team?
0:22:06 > 0:22:07- Sometimes. It depends.
0:22:07 > 0:22:09- Sometimes, we play on Sundays...
0:22:10 > 0:22:15- ..but many of the girls are in - a bad state on Sunday morning!
0:22:15 > 0:22:19- It's strange - that you two took up rugby.
0:22:19 > 0:22:22- Here we are among the lonely hills.
0:22:22 > 0:22:24- All the boys here play football.
0:22:24 > 0:22:25- All the boys here play football.- - No, no.
0:22:25 > 0:22:26- No, no.
0:22:26 > 0:22:28- Both games are played in Dolgellau.
0:22:29 > 0:22:31- Dad used to play rugby.
0:22:31 > 0:22:34- That may have something - to do with it.
0:22:35 > 0:22:36- We had to watch rugby every Sunday.
0:22:36 > 0:22:37- We had to watch rugby every Sunday.- - We're a rugby family...
0:22:37 > 0:22:37- We had to watch rugby every Sunday.
0:22:37 > 0:22:38- ..but we girls - weren't allowed to play.
0:22:38 > 0:22:40- ..but we girls - weren't allowed to play.
0:22:41 > 0:22:42- But girls always follow Dad.
0:22:42 > 0:22:43- But girls always follow Dad.- - They must do.
0:22:43 > 0:22:43- They must do.
0:22:43 > 0:22:47- Did your mother - give you a telling off?
0:22:47 > 0:22:48- Well, Mam...
0:22:49 > 0:22:52- Mam's a bit more ladylike - than we are.
0:22:52 > 0:22:53- Yes, she is.
0:22:53 > 0:22:54- Yes, she is.- - She tried to get us to dance...
0:22:54 > 0:22:56- She tried to get us to dance...
0:22:56 > 0:22:58- ..to be ballerinas.
0:22:58 > 0:23:02- You've got the body - to be a ballerina!
0:23:02 > 0:23:02- Both of you!
0:23:02 > 0:23:03- Both of you!- - Thanks very much, Dai!
0:23:03 > 0:23:04- Thanks very much, Dai!
0:23:12 > 0:23:15- You've dismantled the clock, boys.
0:23:15 > 0:23:18- Do you remember Laurel and Hardy?
0:23:18 > 0:23:20- Remember them dropping a clock?
0:23:20 > 0:23:22- Hardy's right here!
0:23:25 > 0:23:27- This is a very old clock.
0:23:28 > 0:23:29- Yes, it is.
0:23:29 > 0:23:32- Look how "Dolgelly" is spelt.
0:23:33 > 0:23:38- You said you had a room - where a choir used to practise.
0:23:38 > 0:23:40- It was this room.
0:23:40 > 0:23:42- It was a mixed choir.
0:23:42 > 0:23:44- My father's brother conducted...
0:23:44 > 0:23:48- ..and he had the whole choir - right up against him!
0:23:48 > 0:23:50- How many were in the choir?
0:23:50 > 0:23:51- How many were in the choir?- - Nearly 30.
0:23:51 > 0:23:51- Nearly 30.
0:23:53 > 0:23:56- Your father - was with Cor Meibion Dolgellau.
0:23:56 > 0:23:58- Yes. So was I.
0:23:58 > 0:24:00- For a while.
0:24:00 > 0:24:02- A singing tradition.
0:24:02 > 0:24:07- It's not a bad day for moving, - though it's wet outside.
0:24:07 > 0:24:10- We've already taken - the smaller things.
0:24:10 > 0:24:13- Mair wants more boxes or something.
0:24:13 > 0:24:15- It's a big thing, moving.
0:24:15 > 0:24:16- And you're moving in, Geraint.
0:24:16 > 0:24:18- And you're moving in, Geraint.- - It's a lot of work.
0:24:18 > 0:24:18- It's a lot of work.
0:24:19 > 0:24:20- You'll be closer to your work.
0:24:20 > 0:24:21- You'll be closer to your work.- - It's better for me.
0:24:21 > 0:24:22- It's better for me.
0:24:22 > 0:24:25- And less work for the old man.
0:24:25 > 0:24:29- Less of the 'old'. - we're the same age!
0:24:29 > 0:24:32- But we like to give young people - a chance!
0:24:33 > 0:24:33- A small chance!
0:24:33 > 0:24:34- A small chance!- - A small push!
0:24:34 > 0:24:35- A small push!
0:24:35 > 0:24:37- Have you moved yet?
0:24:39 > 0:24:44- This is a nice job for us two - at our age.
0:24:45 > 0:24:48- Don't move anything - that's too heavy.
0:24:50 > 0:24:53- You'll get a lot in here.
0:24:53 > 0:24:54- Mind your head.
0:25:09 > 0:25:14- Tom has been a member - of Cor Godre'r Aran for many years.
0:25:15 > 0:25:21- I wonder if he's asked - I'm sure - he is - "Do your children sing?"
0:25:21 > 0:25:22- Llinos can sing.
0:25:22 > 0:25:22- Llinos can sing.- - No, she can't!
0:25:22 > 0:25:23- No, she can't!
0:25:23 > 0:25:26- Though they tried their best - with me!
0:25:27 > 0:25:28- Llinos can play the piano too.
0:25:28 > 0:25:29- Llinos can play the piano too.- - No, though they tried that too!
0:25:29 > 0:25:31- No, though they tried that too!
0:25:31 > 0:25:35- It would have been nice - if you could play.
0:25:35 > 0:25:36- That was the dream, I think.
0:25:36 > 0:25:38- That was the dream, I think.- - Dad wanted an accompanist.
0:25:38 > 0:25:38- That was the dream, I think.
0:25:38 > 0:25:41- He tried to get us girls interested.
0:25:41 > 0:25:46- Mrs AA came here to give us - piano lessons in the parlour.
0:25:46 > 0:25:50- Mrs AA - - her husband worked for the AA!
0:25:50 > 0:25:53- But I really hated - playing the piano!
0:25:53 > 0:25:55- I protested so much.
0:25:55 > 0:26:00- When she came once, I kicked - a football and broke a window!
0:26:00 > 0:26:04- Llinos wasn't quite such a rebel - in those days.
0:26:04 > 0:26:07- Is she very rebellious these days?
0:26:07 > 0:26:10- She did rebel a bit later on.
0:26:11 > 0:26:15- Back to today, Bethan - doesn't - travelling so much scare you?
0:26:15 > 0:26:16- I'd be scared of getting lost!
0:26:16 > 0:26:18- I'd be scared of getting lost!- - I'm never on my own.
0:26:18 > 0:26:18- I'm never on my own.
0:26:19 > 0:26:21- I prefer to travel alone.
0:26:21 > 0:26:25- Llinos came with me to America once - to play rugby.
0:26:25 > 0:26:28- That must have been an experience!
0:26:28 > 0:26:30- It was great!
0:26:30 > 0:26:33- I'd rather travel on my own, really.
0:26:33 > 0:26:38- But when I'm doing 'Ar Y Lein', - there's a crew as well.
0:26:38 > 0:26:41- I've nothing against them, - but that's work.
0:26:42 > 0:26:43- What an experience though.
0:26:44 > 0:26:47- You meet different people - in different countries.
0:26:47 > 0:26:51- In this country, - everyone's the same, more or less.
0:26:51 > 0:26:55- But, in some places, - people can be very different.
0:26:55 > 0:26:59- They're completely different, - but then again, they're the same.
0:26:59 > 0:27:00- It doesn't matter where you go.
0:27:00 > 0:27:01- It doesn't matter where you go.- - Do you enjoy it?
0:27:01 > 0:27:02- Do you enjoy it?
0:27:02 > 0:27:05- Oh, yes. I like talking to people.
0:27:05 > 0:27:10- I get bored if I'm sitting - looking at moose or elk all day!
0:27:11 > 0:27:14- I don't know how - Iolo Williams does it!
0:27:14 > 0:27:16- It's people I'm interested in...
0:27:16 > 0:27:19- Llinos, would you like to travel?
0:27:19 > 0:27:21- I'm not sure.
0:27:21 > 0:27:25- I'd enjoy if Bethan and her sister - did something like 'Ar Y Lein' once.
0:27:26 > 0:27:27- That's a good idea!
0:27:28 > 0:27:28- .
0:27:33 > 0:27:33- 888
0:27:33 > 0:27:35- 888- - 888
0:27:38 > 0:27:43- The family has a lot of work to do - during the week.
0:27:44 > 0:27:47- They have land in Maentwrog - and Anglesey.
0:27:47 > 0:27:51- Managing these Continental cattle - can often be quite a job.
0:27:58 > 0:28:00- Go on.
0:28:01 > 0:28:03- Go on.
0:28:08 > 0:28:11- This is a very sheltered spot.
0:28:11 > 0:28:13- It's not at all cold.
0:28:13 > 0:28:13- It's not at all cold.- - No, and it's nice and dry.
0:28:13 > 0:28:15- No, and it's nice and dry.
0:28:17 > 0:28:21- I'm sure this was in its glory - this year.
0:28:21 > 0:28:25- Yes. It started late, - but it was good once it came.
0:28:26 > 0:28:31- You keep cattle here, and you've - created a great place for them.
0:28:31 > 0:28:33- It's next to the road.
0:28:33 > 0:28:36- Getting them in can be quite a job.
0:28:37 > 0:28:39- You've got to plan ahead.
0:28:39 > 0:28:43- I would think - you've got plenty of patience.
0:28:43 > 0:28:44- Me?!
0:28:45 > 0:28:45- That's what I think.
0:28:45 > 0:28:46- That's what I think.- - You're not serious, are you?
0:28:46 > 0:28:47- You're not serious, are you?
0:28:48 > 0:28:50- Yes! I think you have patience!
0:28:51 > 0:28:55- Shall I go and look - for the other cows?
0:28:55 > 0:28:56- Are you sure?
0:28:56 > 0:28:57- Are you sure?- - There was a time...
0:28:57 > 0:28:57- There was a time...
0:28:58 > 0:29:02- ..when I could run around - and get the cattle in!
0:29:02 > 0:29:03- But this is enough for me now!
0:29:03 > 0:29:05- But this is enough for me now!- - The 0-60 has gone!
0:29:05 > 0:29:08- I could do it years ago!
0:29:14 > 0:29:16- Let that white one through?
0:29:18 > 0:29:19- Whoa, bach. Come on.
0:29:21 > 0:29:23- Will they get past you?
0:29:23 > 0:29:26- No, they won't get past me.
0:29:26 > 0:29:27- Guaranteed?
0:29:27 > 0:29:33- I'm not as tall as you, - but I'd fill a bigger hole!
0:29:34 > 0:29:36- I want those two.
0:29:45 > 0:29:47- Let that red one come.
0:30:03 > 0:30:05- There we are, boys.
0:30:06 > 0:30:08- Gwanas, here we come.
0:30:10 > 0:30:13- They're one step closer to the bank.
0:30:38 > 0:30:41- The family, responding - to circumstances...
0:30:41 > 0:30:44- ..has diversified in its work.
0:30:44 > 0:30:49- Diversification is an important word - in agriculture nowadays.
0:30:51 > 0:30:55- A few miles down the road, - they have a caravan park.
0:30:55 > 0:30:58- People flock here.
0:30:58 > 0:31:00- It's a lovely spot.
0:31:01 > 0:31:03- You've spent a lot of money on this.
0:31:04 > 0:31:05- That building's new.
0:31:06 > 0:31:08- It's about a year old.
0:31:08 > 0:31:10- It's a great asset.
0:31:11 > 0:31:14- Building something like that - costs a lot.
0:31:15 > 0:31:18- All the utilities must be in place.
0:31:18 > 0:31:19- There are regulations.
0:31:20 > 0:31:23- These days, people - want the best facilities.
0:31:25 > 0:31:28- Is this the largest park?
0:31:28 > 0:31:32- Yes, this is the park - with the static caravans.
0:31:32 > 0:31:35- It's an excellent park - and totally rural.
0:31:36 > 0:31:40- City people like to escape - for holidays in a quiet spot.
0:31:40 > 0:31:44- I'm sure you don't have any trouble - filling the place.
0:31:45 > 0:31:46- So long as the sun is out.
0:31:46 > 0:31:48- So long as the sun is out.- - The weather is your only problem.
0:31:48 > 0:31:48- The weather is your only problem.
0:31:48 > 0:31:51- Yes, but it's quite sheltered here.
0:31:52 > 0:31:53- Wind isn't a problem.
0:31:53 > 0:31:57- Does anyone outside the family - help to run the show?
0:31:58 > 0:32:00- No, it's the family, mostly.
0:32:00 > 0:32:04- Of course, this began - as a means of diversification.
0:32:04 > 0:32:06- You got the chance to buy it.
0:32:06 > 0:32:07- You got the chance to buy it.- - Yes, back in '96...
0:32:07 > 0:32:07- Yes, back in '96...
0:32:07 > 0:32:11- ..we got the chance - to buy the place.
0:32:11 > 0:32:15- We bought it - the day before BSE broke out.
0:32:16 > 0:32:19- It's been a great help to us.
0:32:19 > 0:32:23- You're clever with your hands. - You can build stone walls.
0:32:24 > 0:32:28- Did you do a lot of the work - yourself?
0:32:28 > 0:32:33- Yes - walls, fences, and I've done - a lot of work on the caravans...
0:32:33 > 0:32:36- ..plumbing, and preparing places - for new caravans.
0:32:37 > 0:32:41- Of course, these caravans - must have all the amenities.
0:32:43 > 0:32:45- They have to be available.
0:32:45 > 0:32:48- Yes - electricity, - water and sewerage.
0:32:49 > 0:32:53- We may install gas this winter.
0:32:53 > 0:32:55- When does the season start? Easter?
0:32:56 > 0:33:01- Yes, Easter or April 1. - It depends which comes first.
0:33:01 > 0:33:04- It finishes at the end of October.
0:33:11 > 0:33:14- There's a lot of work involved - with these walls.
0:33:14 > 0:33:17- You should be getting full grants.
0:33:17 > 0:33:19- These old walls fall down easily.
0:33:20 > 0:33:21- You have to maintain them properly.
0:33:21 > 0:33:22- You have to maintain them properly.- - Yes, these walls in particular.
0:33:22 > 0:33:23- Yes, these walls in particular.
0:33:23 > 0:33:27- The stones are from the river, - so they're round.
0:33:27 > 0:33:29- There's more work involved.
0:33:29 > 0:33:32- You have to place the stones - carefully.
0:33:33 > 0:33:34- They're very heavy.
0:33:34 > 0:33:37- Yes - they're hard on your back.
0:33:37 > 0:33:42- You have to watch that children - don't go jumping all over them!
0:33:42 > 0:33:44- Mam often shouts at them!
0:33:44 > 0:33:45- She's used to shouting!
0:33:45 > 0:33:48- She's used to shouting!- - She had plenty of practice with us!
0:33:49 > 0:33:52- I learnt mostly from my father.
0:33:52 > 0:33:57- Every area has a different building - technique or a different style.
0:34:08 > 0:34:10- On the outskirts of Brithdir...
0:34:11 > 0:34:15- ..there's a place that's close - to the family's heart - the chapel.
0:34:15 > 0:34:20- It's closed now, but they're - delighted with its new use.
0:34:20 > 0:34:22- Here's the family graveyard.
0:34:23 > 0:34:26- The gate's been painted too, - fair play!
0:34:26 > 0:34:28- Yes, it's nice.
0:34:28 > 0:34:31- Things are well cared for - in rural areas.
0:34:33 > 0:34:35- Here it is - the family graveyard.
0:34:35 > 0:34:35- Here it is - the family graveyard.- - Here it is.
0:34:35 > 0:34:36- Here it is.
0:34:38 > 0:34:40- There's Glesni - and your father.
0:34:40 > 0:34:44- I hope there'll be room for me too.
0:34:44 > 0:34:45- Before very long, I should think!
0:34:45 > 0:34:47- Before very long, I should think!- - I wouldn't say that!
0:34:47 > 0:34:47- I wouldn't say that!
0:34:47 > 0:34:50- Was this the family chapel?
0:34:51 > 0:34:55- Originally, we went to another - chapel, further up the valley...
0:34:55 > 0:34:57- ..closer to Cwm Hafod Oer.
0:34:57 > 0:35:00- That closed, so we came here.
0:35:00 > 0:35:03- But this didn't remain open - for much longer.
0:35:04 > 0:35:05- The year 2000.
0:35:05 > 0:35:07- In the year 2000.
0:35:08 > 0:35:10- Today, it's a nursery, isn't it?
0:35:10 > 0:35:11- Today, it's a nursery, isn't it?- - Yes, for young children.
0:35:11 > 0:35:12- Yes, for young children.
0:35:14 > 0:35:18- The original idea was to keep - the building for the community.
0:35:19 > 0:35:23- Then, after four years, - we'd received enough grants...
0:35:23 > 0:35:27- ..to open the nursery at the - beginning of this year, January 3.
0:35:28 > 0:35:29- You must be very happy.
0:35:29 > 0:35:30- You must be very happy.- - Yes. The chapel's been very kind...
0:35:30 > 0:35:31- Yes. The chapel's been very kind...
0:35:31 > 0:35:36- ..to let us have it on lease - at a small price.
0:35:36 > 0:35:40- It's a very nice purpose - - to nurture the future.
0:35:40 > 0:35:43- Who could turn that down?
0:35:43 > 0:35:44- Singers, perhaps.
0:35:45 > 0:35:48- There'll be something wrong - if there won't be any.
0:35:48 > 0:35:53- Are you still involved with the - place now that it's a nursery?
0:35:54 > 0:35:59- Yes, we had to do something with the - graveyard when the chapel closed.
0:35:59 > 0:36:03- Three of us are trustees - of the graveyard.
0:36:03 > 0:36:08- If you want to be buried here, - you phone me!
0:36:08 > 0:36:11- I see! - It's in very safe hands, then.
0:36:41 > 0:36:43- Well, hello!
0:36:43 > 0:36:44- How are you?
0:36:45 > 0:36:46- Are you alright?
0:36:46 > 0:36:48- A welcome at the door!
0:36:49 > 0:36:50- How are you?
0:36:50 > 0:36:50- How are you?- - I'm fine.
0:36:50 > 0:36:51- I'm fine.
0:36:53 > 0:36:56- They keep you busy, don't they?
0:36:56 > 0:37:00- Very busy. We've just had lunch - and now they're playing.
0:37:00 > 0:37:03- You can see chocolate - around their mouths!
0:37:04 > 0:37:05- How old are they?
0:37:05 > 0:37:05- How old are they?- - We accept them from three months...
0:37:05 > 0:37:08- We accept them from three months...
0:37:08 > 0:37:11- ..until the time they start school.
0:37:11 > 0:37:15- That varies, depending on when - they have their birthday.
0:37:15 > 0:37:16- None are over five.
0:37:16 > 0:37:17- None are over five.- - How many of you look after them?
0:37:17 > 0:37:19- How many of you look after them?
0:37:19 > 0:37:21- There are six staff members.
0:37:22 > 0:37:24- Tom's granddaughter works here.
0:37:24 > 0:37:27- She's over there, feeding a baby.
0:37:27 > 0:37:31- Do they miss their mothers - when they leave them?
0:37:31 > 0:37:35- They're very good. Some do, - but they're all different.
0:37:35 > 0:37:40- Some days, maybe, or if there's - a change in circumstances.
0:37:40 > 0:37:41- But they're very good.
0:37:41 > 0:37:42- But they're very good.- - How many children are registered?
0:37:42 > 0:37:43- How many children are registered?
0:37:43 > 0:37:44- Hello, how are you?
0:37:44 > 0:37:45- Hello, how are you?- - There are 30 in all.
0:37:45 > 0:37:46- There are 30 in all.
0:37:47 > 0:37:48- Really?
0:37:48 > 0:37:51- Have you come to say hello?
0:37:51 > 0:37:53- What's that? A mouth organ?
0:37:53 > 0:37:53- What's that? A mouth organ?- - Hello!
0:37:53 > 0:37:54- Hello!
0:37:54 > 0:37:55- Everyone wants to say hello!
0:37:55 > 0:37:57- Everyone wants to say hello!- - They're cheerful!
0:37:57 > 0:37:57- They're cheerful!
0:37:57 > 0:37:59- How are you?
0:37:59 > 0:38:00- Are you alright?
0:38:00 > 0:38:01- .
0:38:16 > 0:38:16- 888
0:38:16 > 0:38:18- 888- - 888
0:38:29 > 0:38:32- There's no need for the tourists - to have everything.
0:38:33 > 0:38:38- The sheep are brought to the park - where there's plenty of grass.
0:38:38 > 0:38:40- They think it's Christmas!
0:38:46 > 0:38:49- They're delighted to get in there!
0:38:50 > 0:38:53- They won't take long - to graze it all.
0:38:54 > 0:38:57- We haven't cut the grass - for a while...
0:38:57 > 0:38:59- ..because the sheep can eat it.
0:38:59 > 0:39:01- ..because the sheep can eat it.- - There won't be any tourists...
0:39:01 > 0:39:01- ..because the sheep can eat it.- - There won't be any tourists...- - ..until Easter.
0:39:01 > 0:39:02- ..because the sheep can eat it.- - ..until Easter.
0:39:02 > 0:39:05- The grass will soon grow back.
0:39:05 > 0:39:08- The bottom field is very sheltered.
0:39:08 > 0:39:08- The bottom field is very sheltered.- - It's much nicer than Cwm Hafod Oer!
0:39:08 > 0:39:11- It's much nicer than Cwm Hafod Oer!
0:39:12 > 0:39:15- Are they all Welsh sheep? - No crosses?
0:39:16 > 0:39:18- None.
0:39:18 > 0:39:19- Do you get many twins?
0:39:19 > 0:39:20- Do you get many twins?- - With these, yes...
0:39:20 > 0:39:20- With these, yes...
0:39:21 > 0:39:24- ..but the mountain sheep - won't have many.
0:39:24 > 0:39:27- It's sheltered here - and close to Gwanas.
0:39:28 > 0:39:30- It's a very convenient arrangement.
0:39:30 > 0:39:32- Yes, it works fine.
0:39:33 > 0:39:35- Mair is nearby. She can help.
0:39:35 > 0:39:37- Yes, within walking distance.
0:39:38 > 0:39:42- Is it you - who usually cuts the grass?
0:39:42 > 0:39:43- Do you have a ride-on mower?
0:39:43 > 0:39:45- Do you have a ride-on mower?- - Yes. I don't mind doing it.
0:39:45 > 0:39:46- Yes. I don't mind doing it.
0:39:46 > 0:39:48- Don't you?
0:39:49 > 0:39:52- But when it comes to paperwork...
0:39:52 > 0:39:57- ..Tom and Geraint are happy - to leave it all to Mair.
0:39:58 > 0:40:02- This is a very important corner - of the park.
0:40:02 > 0:40:05- Yes. We're very busy in summer.
0:40:05 > 0:40:05- Yes. We're very busy in summer.- - Is there much to do during the day?
0:40:05 > 0:40:08- Is there much to do during the day?
0:40:08 > 0:40:09- Keep things ticking over, I suppose?
0:40:09 > 0:40:11- Keep things ticking over, I suppose?- - Yes.
0:40:11 > 0:40:14- Cleaning the toilets - is the worst job.
0:40:14 > 0:40:18- We welcome people, make sure - they pay and give them tags.
0:40:19 > 0:40:23- I have different coloured tags - for each day which helps...
0:40:23 > 0:40:25- ..because they can be sneaky.
0:40:26 > 0:40:29- Are they decent people - on the whole?
0:40:29 > 0:40:34- On the whole, they're excellent, - but you get the odd bad one.
0:40:34 > 0:40:37- Can they buy provisions in the park?
0:40:38 > 0:40:41- No, they have to go into town - to buy provisions.
0:40:41 > 0:40:46- That would be too much, - though we'd make more money.
0:40:48 > 0:40:50- Well, well, Mair - what's this?
0:40:50 > 0:40:53- This is a kitchen for the campers...
0:40:55 > 0:40:57- ..where they can wash dishes...
0:40:58 > 0:40:59- And prepare food?
0:40:59 > 0:41:00- And prepare food?- - Yes, if it's raining...
0:41:00 > 0:41:01- Yes, if it's raining...
0:41:01 > 0:41:02- ..they can come in here.
0:41:02 > 0:41:03- ..they can come in here.- - And there's a television.
0:41:03 > 0:41:04- And there's a television.
0:41:04 > 0:41:09- If there's a football game on - or something, they fill the room.
0:41:09 > 0:41:13- Do campsites - generally have these facilities?
0:41:13 > 0:41:15- Are they essential?
0:41:15 > 0:41:16- Are they essential?- - No...
0:41:16 > 0:41:16- Are they essential?
0:41:16 > 0:41:19- ..but we thought - it would be something extra.
0:41:19 > 0:41:20- ..but we thought - it would be something extra.
0:41:21 > 0:41:24- It was an experiment, really, - but people like it.
0:41:25 > 0:41:29- I bought these seats - in the chapel sale.
0:41:31 > 0:41:35- It was being converted into - a nursery, so we had a sale.
0:41:37 > 0:41:39- I bought four of these seats.
0:41:40 > 0:41:41- They add character.
0:41:41 > 0:41:45- I bet some of the backsides - that sit here...
0:41:45 > 0:41:46- ..have never been in a chapel!
0:41:46 > 0:41:48- ..have never been in a chapel!- - I'm sure!
0:41:48 > 0:41:52- It costs a lot - to build something like this.
0:41:52 > 0:41:53- It does.
0:41:54 > 0:41:59- The tourist board was good enough - to give us a grant towards it.
0:42:00 > 0:42:03- But you had to make sure - it had everything.
0:42:04 > 0:42:08- Yes. It had to be of a certain - standard - and that cost money.
0:42:09 > 0:42:10- Fair play...
0:42:11 > 0:42:15- ..you've diversified but - you've kept the farm's character.
0:42:16 > 0:42:18- People are all you need.
0:42:20 > 0:42:23- Yes, things are always changing.
0:42:24 > 0:42:28- But the landscape in this area - will never change...
0:42:29 > 0:42:31- ..and thank heavens for that.
0:42:33 > 0:42:35- It's like paradise.
0:42:35 > 0:42:40- Though Mair and Tom have moved out, - they're not far from Gwanas.
0:42:41 > 0:42:44- They're in Dolgamedd - - a very old place.
0:42:45 > 0:42:50- In this house, there'll be plenty - of talk about singing and farming.
0:42:51 > 0:42:52- Bound to be.
0:42:53 > 0:42:57- It's not far from Tycroes, - the home of Ieuan Gwynedd.
0:42:59 > 0:43:04- Owen Edwards mentions in his book - that he walked past this house...
0:43:04 > 0:43:08- ..and he wrote that Dolgamedd - looked Elizabethan.
0:43:09 > 0:43:13- It's nice that your son - has taken over Gwanas.
0:43:14 > 0:43:19- And you have enough time to enjoy - as he gets himself established.
0:43:19 > 0:43:20- Yes, it's nice.
0:43:21 > 0:43:24- And you know how farming is - - all those forms.
0:43:24 > 0:43:27- He does all that himself.
0:43:27 > 0:43:31- I'd have retired ages ago - if it wasn't for him!
0:43:34 > 0:43:38- Will you be going home to Gwanas - by mistake occasionally?
0:43:38 > 0:43:40- That's quite possible!
0:43:42 > 0:43:47- I came out of Ty Glas one day - and turned towards Gwanas!
0:43:47 > 0:43:50- I had to turn around and go back!
0:43:51 > 0:43:54- What will you do - with yourselves now?
0:43:55 > 0:43:56- You'll be busy in summer.
0:43:56 > 0:43:57- You'll be busy in summer.- - Yes, I'll be busy in summer.
0:43:57 > 0:43:58- Yes, I'll be busy in summer.
0:43:59 > 0:44:01- You don't sing, do you?
0:44:01 > 0:44:03- No, but I listen!
0:44:04 > 0:44:06- And criticise! I'm a critic!
0:44:08 > 0:44:12- Do you have any other interests - to keep you occupied?
0:44:12 > 0:44:15- Is there anything you'd like to do?
0:44:16 > 0:44:21- I'd like to do more exercise - like yoga or something like that.
0:44:21 > 0:44:22- More time to do things like that.
0:44:22 > 0:44:23- More time to do things like that.- - Skiing too.
0:44:23 > 0:44:24- More time to do things like that.
0:44:24 > 0:44:24- Oh, yes - skiing.
0:44:24 > 0:44:25- Oh, yes - skiing.
0:44:25 > 0:44:27- Skiing's my hobby these days.
0:44:28 > 0:44:30- I've only just started.
0:44:31 > 0:44:36- # White seagull above the lake... #
0:44:37 > 0:44:42- I had the privilege of sharing - a stage with Tom Gwanas many times.
0:44:42 > 0:44:45- It was a real pleasure.
0:44:45 > 0:44:48- I've heard this country's - greatest musicians...
0:44:48 > 0:44:53- ..saying Tom Gwanas is the most - musical singer they've ever heard.
0:44:53 > 0:44:55- Hear, hear, say I.
0:44:58 > 0:45:03- No-one has won - it used to be - the Princeps Cantorum...
0:45:03 > 0:45:06- ..but it isn't awarded any more.
0:45:06 > 0:45:09- I was the only one to win it twice.
0:45:09 > 0:45:14- Did you prefer to compete - rather than sing in a concert?
0:45:14 > 0:45:16- This shows you, I think.
0:45:17 > 0:45:19- I preferred to compete.
0:45:19 > 0:45:22- You won both your Blue Riband - in Pembrokeshire.
0:45:22 > 0:45:25- '86 and 2002.
0:45:25 > 0:45:29- I won at Llangollen in '84 and '89.
0:45:29 > 0:45:32- Do you think the eisteddfod stage...
0:45:32 > 0:45:35- ..is the best place - to serve your apprenticeship?
0:45:35 > 0:45:37- Not just with singing...
0:45:37 > 0:45:38- ..but with living in a rural area.
0:45:38 > 0:45:39- ..but with living in a rural area.- - Yes, it is.
0:45:39 > 0:45:40- ..but with living in a rural area.
0:45:40 > 0:45:40- Everyone loses unfairly sometimes, - but you take it in your stride.
0:45:40 > 0:45:44- Everyone loses unfairly sometimes, - but you take it in your stride.
0:45:45 > 0:45:48- When did you start - with Cor Godre'r Aran?
0:45:48 > 0:45:50- It was in 1969.
0:45:51 > 0:45:56- I was with a male voice choir before - that - Cor Meibion Dolgellau...
0:45:57 > 0:46:02- ..and before that I was in the - Dinas Mawddwy cerdd dant octet.
0:46:03 > 0:46:06- Everyone said - my enunciation was bad...
0:46:06 > 0:46:09- ..and that cerdd dant - helped with enunciation.
0:46:09 > 0:46:12- But it wasn't true in my case.
0:46:12 > 0:46:15- I wouldn't say - your enunciation is bad!
0:46:16 > 0:46:20- You can't say that when you've got - two gold medals from Llangollen...
0:46:21 > 0:46:22- ..and two Blue Ribands.
0:46:22 > 0:46:26- Being on an eisteddfod stage - is an honour.
0:46:26 > 0:46:30- It's a thrill - to sing at an eisteddfod.
0:46:30 > 0:46:33- You're also scared - of going on stage.
0:46:33 > 0:46:37- But once you've done it, - it's a great feeling.
0:46:37 > 0:46:41- # Shining,
0:46:42 > 0:46:48- # Oh, most beloved star... #
0:46:50 > 0:46:55- Is your voice - as good as it's ever been?
0:46:55 > 0:46:57- Oh, no.
0:46:57 > 0:47:01- But if I continue to sing - with the choir...
0:47:02 > 0:47:04- ..or in concerts...
0:47:04 > 0:47:07- ..and practise, it's alright.
0:47:07 > 0:47:13- But if I don't sing for a while, - I can hear it starting to go.
0:47:13 > 0:47:18- During lambing, for example, - when you don't have time to sing...
0:47:18 > 0:47:22- ..it's difficult to come back to it - afterwards.
0:47:22 > 0:47:25- When I won my last Blue Riband...
0:47:25 > 0:47:28- ..I tried to keep practising - during lambing.
0:47:28 > 0:47:32- Up to about a week - before the Eisteddfod...
0:47:32 > 0:47:34- ..I wasn't going to compete.
0:47:34 > 0:47:37- The songs just didn't come.
0:47:37 > 0:47:40- But during the final week, - they came.
0:47:40 > 0:47:49- # ..my heart. #
0:47:51 > 0:47:52- APPLAUSE
0:47:53 > 0:47:56- Is there any country - you'd like to visit?
0:47:56 > 0:47:57- I don't think so.
0:47:57 > 0:47:58- I don't think so.- - You've more time on your hands.
0:47:58 > 0:47:59- You've more time on your hands.
0:48:00 > 0:48:00- So you say!
0:48:00 > 0:48:01- So you say!- - Let's called you semi-retired.
0:48:01 > 0:48:02- Let's called you semi-retired.
0:48:02 > 0:48:03- You'll never really retire.
0:48:03 > 0:48:04- You'll never really retire.- - No. Never.
0:48:04 > 0:48:06- No. Never.
0:48:08 > 0:48:12- But, on behalf of your family, and - especially your father and mother...
0:48:13 > 0:48:16- ..who had such high regard - for eisteddfodau and singing...
0:48:17 > 0:48:20- ..it's wonderful - that you've won all these.
0:48:20 > 0:48:21- Yes, it's quite nice.
0:48:21 > 0:48:22- Yes, it's quite nice.- - It's something you can share.
0:48:22 > 0:48:23- It's something you can share.
0:48:23 > 0:48:28- On a wet afternoon, - you can sit here and look at them!
0:48:29 > 0:48:30- And clean them!
0:48:30 > 0:48:30- And clean them!- - I thought Mair cleaned them!
0:48:30 > 0:48:32- I thought Mair cleaned them!
0:48:32 > 0:48:35- No, it's me who cleans them!
0:48:35 > 0:48:40- If any viewers need someone to - clean the house, contact Tom Gwanas!
0:48:42 > 0:48:47- # I lie down late in the evening - and get up at dawn,
0:48:47 > 0:48:52- # I lie down late in the evening - and get up at dawn,
0:48:52 > 0:48:56- # To follow the plough - on the hillside,
0:48:57 > 0:49:06- # And follow the red plough - on the great mountain. #
0:49:07 > 0:49:10- S4/C subtitles by TROSOL Cyf.