Dai, Trefor a Glenys

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0:00:05 > 0:00:07- WHISTLING

0:00:18 > 0:00:21- There are three siblings - in our family...

0:00:21 > 0:00:24- ..my brother, Trefor, - my sister, Glenys, and me.

0:00:24 > 0:00:27- We were all born in London.

0:00:27 > 0:00:29- WHISTLING

0:00:30 > 0:00:32- I'm the oldest.

0:00:33 > 0:00:38- Trefor came along two years later, - and Glenys a few years after that.

0:00:45 > 0:00:48- WHISTLING

0:00:48 > 0:00:51- Trefor loves being in the city.

0:00:52 > 0:00:56- I could never stand it. - Give me dogs and sheep.

0:00:58 > 0:00:59- Good gracious, Trefor! That's lucky!

0:00:59 > 0:01:00- Good gracious, Trefor! That's lucky!- - How's things?

0:01:00 > 0:01:01- How's things?

0:01:01 > 0:01:04- I'm very well. - So this is where you are.

0:01:05 > 0:01:07- There are cars behind you!

0:01:07 > 0:01:09- We're in the middle of London.

0:01:10 > 0:01:13- I don't know how he can live here.

0:01:13 > 0:01:16- I prefer dogs, sheep and cattle.

0:01:16 > 0:01:18- He knows London very well.

0:01:19 > 0:01:21- He knows what to charge too.

0:01:22 > 0:01:25- Trefor is showing me - some of the sights...

0:01:26 > 0:01:28- ..and we'll revisit some old haunts.

0:01:29 > 0:01:33- We'll also travel overseas - to his current home in Spain.

0:01:34 > 0:01:39- Mam and Dad kept a shop in London - like many other Cardiganshire folk.

0:01:39 > 0:01:44- They moved there during the War - in order to sell milk.

0:01:44 > 0:01:47- Kingsdown Road, Holloway, N19, - was our original home.

0:01:48 > 0:01:50- This is the shop.

0:01:50 > 0:01:52- It's no longer there.

0:02:04 > 0:02:05- Good gracious.

0:02:06 > 0:02:09- This is the yard - where the bottles were kept.

0:02:10 > 0:02:11- And the barrows.

0:02:11 > 0:02:11- And the barrows.- - Barrows in the yard.

0:02:11 > 0:02:12- Barrows in the yard.

0:02:13 > 0:02:17- The children around here - used to play a game.

0:02:17 > 0:02:19- Knocking on doors and running away!

0:02:19 > 0:02:20- Knocking on doors and running away!- - Knock-down Ginger.

0:02:20 > 0:02:21- Knock-down Ginger.

0:02:22 > 0:02:26- The barrows came in this way - and went out that way.

0:02:27 > 0:02:30- The shop was over there. - It's gone completely now.

0:02:31 > 0:02:32- That's sad.

0:02:33 > 0:02:35- They worked long hours.

0:02:35 > 0:02:41- The boys left the yard each morning - at 5.00am to do the milk round.

0:02:41 > 0:02:43- They were busy until 1.00pm.

0:02:44 > 0:02:49- They returned at 1.00pm. The shop - closed between 1.00pm and 2.00pm.

0:02:49 > 0:02:51- Mam, and Dad...

0:02:52 > 0:02:57- Dad would slice ham and bacon - every evening before going to bed...

0:02:57 > 0:03:01- ..because Mam was too short - to reach the slicer.

0:03:01 > 0:03:04- She opened the shop at 7.00am.

0:03:04 > 0:03:07- She did two rounds - before opening the shop.

0:03:08 > 0:03:11- She went out at 5.00am, - the same as everyone else.

0:03:11 > 0:03:12- An hour for lunch.

0:03:12 > 0:03:13- An hour for lunch.- - Then back to the shop...

0:03:13 > 0:03:14- Then back to the shop...

0:03:15 > 0:03:17- ..until 6.00pm or 7.00pm.

0:03:17 > 0:03:20- I remember these houses - with their steps.

0:03:21 > 0:03:23- That used to be a pub.

0:03:23 > 0:03:25- It's a wine bar now.

0:03:25 > 0:03:26- It's a wine bar now.- - Dad liked having a pub nearby.

0:03:26 > 0:03:27- Dad liked having a pub nearby.

0:03:27 > 0:03:29- That's right.

0:03:29 > 0:03:31- First aid.

0:03:32 > 0:03:35- They closed the shop - on Thursday afternoons.

0:03:35 > 0:03:38- Dad went to play bowls in Hornsey.

0:03:38 > 0:03:41- A general election was held - one Thursday.

0:03:41 > 0:03:44- Dad certainly didn't support - the Labour party.

0:03:46 > 0:03:50- The Labour candidate came round, - knocked on the door...

0:03:50 > 0:03:54- ..and said, "I'm looking - for your support, Mr Jones."

0:03:54 > 0:03:58- Dad said, "I've already done my duty - by you today..."

0:03:58 > 0:04:02- "..but you can give me a lift - to Hornsey."

0:04:02 > 0:04:06- The Labour candidate - took him to Hornsey in his car!

0:04:07 > 0:04:10- You can spot the talker - in our family!

0:04:10 > 0:04:15- My father was the London - bowls champion for many years.

0:04:15 > 0:04:20- They closed the shop on Thursday - afternoons and Sunday afternoons.

0:04:20 > 0:04:23- That's all the free time they had.

0:04:23 > 0:04:26- Trefor and I - were sent at a young age...

0:04:26 > 0:04:30- ..to our Uncle Morgan - and Aunt Hannah in Llangwyryfon.

0:04:30 > 0:04:32- Morgan was our father's brother.

0:04:32 > 0:04:35- They were raised in Brynchwith - in Llangwyryfon.

0:04:36 > 0:04:38- Aunt Hannah was raised in Tyncefn.

0:04:39 > 0:04:44- We came to Tyncefn in Llangwyryfon - when we were both very young.

0:04:45 > 0:04:48- I lived here until I got married.

0:04:48 > 0:04:50- But you left sooner.

0:04:52 > 0:04:55- When I was 13. 13 or 14.

0:04:55 > 0:04:57- You returned to London.

0:04:57 > 0:04:59- We were raised the same way.

0:05:00 > 0:05:03- Sunday School, the village school, - the orchestra.

0:05:03 > 0:05:07- But you returned to London, - and I stayed here.

0:05:08 > 0:05:10- I could never return to London.

0:05:10 > 0:05:14- Even going there on holiday - was tough for me.

0:05:14 > 0:05:17- I know. - You don't like driving there.

0:05:17 > 0:05:19- You don't want to be there.

0:05:19 > 0:05:20- You don't want to be there.- - Do you remember this place well?

0:05:20 > 0:05:21- Do you remember this place well?

0:05:21 > 0:05:24- Yes. I remember a lot.

0:05:26 > 0:05:29- This is the gate - opposite the house.

0:05:30 > 0:05:34- At night, you could see - cars' headlights from here.

0:05:34 > 0:05:35- It's a good view of Llangwyryfon.

0:05:35 > 0:05:37- It's a good view of Llangwyryfon.- - Uncle Morgan would stand here...

0:05:37 > 0:05:37- Uncle Morgan would stand here...

0:05:37 > 0:05:40- ..every evening - after finishing work.

0:05:40 > 0:05:46- Do you remember when Uncle Morgan - was raking the hay with a horse?

0:05:47 > 0:05:49- The tractor was parked there.

0:05:50 > 0:05:54- You got on the tractor - and took the handbrake off.

0:05:54 > 0:05:57- The tractor rolled down the hill.

0:05:57 > 0:05:59- I was sitting in the back.

0:06:00 > 0:06:03- Uncle Morgan and the horse - were coming up.

0:06:04 > 0:06:07- It was like a scene - from the Wild West.

0:06:08 > 0:06:11- He jumped on the tractor - and pulled the handbrake.

0:06:12 > 0:06:15- Let's take a look - at the outbuildings.

0:06:15 > 0:06:17- Let's have a look.

0:06:17 > 0:06:20- The old house is still standing.

0:06:20 > 0:06:21- I remember them rough-casting it.

0:06:21 > 0:06:23- I remember them rough-casting it.- - Yes, I remember that.

0:06:23 > 0:06:23- Yes, I remember that.

0:06:23 > 0:06:26- These gates weren't here then.

0:06:26 > 0:06:28- Can you open the gate?

0:06:28 > 0:06:28- Can you open the gate?- - I know how to do this.

0:06:28 > 0:06:31- I know how to do this.

0:06:31 > 0:06:33- I used to be a doorman.

0:06:33 > 0:06:33- I used to be a doorman.- - Where?

0:06:33 > 0:06:34- Where?

0:06:34 > 0:06:36- Are you going to give me a tip?

0:06:36 > 0:06:37- Are you going to give me a tip?- - Where?

0:06:37 > 0:06:39- Where?

0:06:40 > 0:06:42- The Clermont Club, Annabel's...

0:06:43 > 0:06:45- ..The Club, The Saddle Room...

0:06:46 > 0:06:48- ..Ladbrokes, The Penthouse Club.

0:06:48 > 0:06:50- That's the barn, that's the stable.

0:06:52 > 0:06:54- And that's the cowshed.

0:06:54 > 0:06:56- Do you remember?

0:06:56 > 0:06:56- Do you remember?- - I remember it all.

0:06:56 > 0:06:57- I remember it all.

0:06:58 > 0:07:01- There were nine cows - in the lower cowshed...

0:07:01 > 0:07:05- ..three in the upper cowshed - and four in the stable.

0:07:06 > 0:07:09- The cows shut their eyes - when you milked them.

0:07:09 > 0:07:11- Ecstasy.

0:07:12 > 0:07:15- I remember Uncle Morgan - calling for you, "Trefor!"

0:07:15 > 0:07:20- And you were stuck in a hedge - out the back or something.

0:07:20 > 0:07:24- "Come and watch - while the cows cross the road."

0:07:24 > 0:07:27- "In a minute, Uncle - - I'm having a pee-pee!"

0:07:27 > 0:07:32- "It's poo-poo or pee-pee - all the time with you!"

0:07:33 > 0:07:36- The toilet - was at the top of the garden.

0:07:37 > 0:07:40- You used to read in the toilet.

0:07:40 > 0:07:41- That was the library.

0:07:42 > 0:07:44- I spent hours reading in there.

0:07:45 > 0:07:50- The toilet paper was Y Cymro, the - Cambrian News and the Welsh Gazette.

0:07:51 > 0:07:57- We also used old catalogues, - but they didn't quite do the job.

0:07:57 > 0:07:58- Or the Farmers' Weekly.

0:07:59 > 0:08:02- I remember - you were in there once...

0:08:02 > 0:08:09- ..and I took a piece of alcathene - pipe and hit the back of the toilet.

0:08:09 > 0:08:14- There was Trefor with his trousers - around his knees among the carrots!

0:08:15 > 0:08:18- I was hoping - no-one knew I was there.

0:08:20 > 0:08:21- The old garden.

0:08:40 > 0:08:42- So many memories of Tyncefn.

0:08:43 > 0:08:46- We had three cousins in Brynchwith.

0:08:47 > 0:08:50- They were the children - of Dad's other brother.

0:08:50 > 0:08:52- They had a sister too.

0:08:53 > 0:08:56- These boys were like brothers to me.

0:08:56 > 0:09:01- We're going to see Trefor - - the same name as my brother.

0:09:02 > 0:09:04- You get out first.

0:09:07 > 0:09:09- He's looking at the next fortune.

0:09:13 > 0:09:14- Fine cows you've got, Tref.

0:09:14 > 0:09:15- Fine cows you've got, Tref.- - I'm giving them some feed.

0:09:15 > 0:09:17- I'm giving them some feed.

0:09:17 > 0:09:18- Selling them as fat cattle?

0:09:18 > 0:09:19- Selling them as fat cattle?- - Yes, in three or four weeks.

0:09:19 > 0:09:20- Yes, in three or four weeks.

0:09:21 > 0:09:22- You've got fine heifers.

0:09:22 > 0:09:23- You've got fine heifers.- - Yes.

0:09:23 > 0:09:24- Yes.

0:09:24 > 0:09:25- Do you use a Charolais bull?

0:09:25 > 0:09:27- Do you use a Charolais bull?- - A Charolais bull, always.

0:09:27 > 0:09:27- A Charolais bull, always.

0:09:28 > 0:09:30- It's what I've always used.

0:09:30 > 0:09:32- Lims aren't heavy enough.

0:09:33 > 0:09:34- Do you use AI?

0:09:34 > 0:09:34- Do you use AI?- - No, a proper bull.

0:09:34 > 0:09:36- No, a proper bull.

0:09:37 > 0:09:39- Have you been to Cnwc before?

0:09:39 > 0:09:40- Have you been to Cnwc before?- - Yes, I was here six years ago.

0:09:40 > 0:09:42- Yes, I was here six years ago.

0:09:42 > 0:09:43- Yes.

0:09:43 > 0:09:43- Yes.- - I came in your Land Rover.

0:09:43 > 0:09:45- I came in your Land Rover.

0:09:45 > 0:09:47- I thought some diesel was missing.

0:09:47 > 0:09:48- I thought some diesel was missing.- - No, I put some diesel in it.

0:09:48 > 0:09:50- No, I put some diesel in it.

0:09:50 > 0:09:51- I filled it up.

0:09:51 > 0:09:52- I filled it up.- - I'm sure you did!

0:09:52 > 0:09:53- I'm sure you did!

0:09:53 > 0:09:55- I'm sure you did!

0:09:55 > 0:09:57- "Dai Jones!"

0:09:59 > 0:10:02- Do you remember electricity - being installed at Tyncefn?

0:10:02 > 0:10:05- It was installed in the sheds...

0:10:05 > 0:10:09- ..two years before it was brought - to the house.

0:10:09 > 0:10:10- They put it outside first.

0:10:10 > 0:10:11- They put it outside first.- - Ianto Rhosfach did the wiring.

0:10:11 > 0:10:13- Ianto Rhosfach did the wiring.

0:10:13 > 0:10:18- I remember coming home from school - and seeing him wiring the house.

0:10:18 > 0:10:23- For years - well, for days - - I was scared to touch a switch...

0:10:23 > 0:10:26- ..in case I got a shock.

0:10:26 > 0:10:29- I'm still scared of electric fences.

0:10:29 > 0:10:32- You got a shock - from an electric fence.

0:10:33 > 0:10:34- It was your fault.

0:10:35 > 0:10:37- I had toothache...

0:10:37 > 0:10:41- ..and he said, - "Go down to the hay meadow..."

0:10:41 > 0:10:44- "..where the electric fence is..."

0:10:45 > 0:10:50- "..and grab the electric fence, - and the toothache will go away."

0:10:52 > 0:10:54- But the toothache persisted.

0:10:55 > 0:10:58- I went back to the shed - - the new shed...

0:11:00 > 0:11:03- ..and stuck two wires into the plug.

0:11:03 > 0:11:05- Into the plug.

0:11:05 > 0:11:09- I got a metal jug with water in it.

0:11:09 > 0:11:10- Switched it on.

0:11:12 > 0:11:16- I was thrown - all the way back to the wall!

0:11:16 > 0:11:19- And I still - had the bloody toothache!

0:11:19 > 0:11:22- I'd only done what he told me!

0:11:24 > 0:11:27- The things we used to do!

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0:11:35 > 0:11:35- 888

0:11:35 > 0:11:37- 888- - 888

0:11:42 > 0:11:47- The village of Llangwyryfon, like - all villages, has grown enormously.

0:11:47 > 0:11:50- It was a very happy village.

0:11:52 > 0:11:55- Has the village changed, - do you think?

0:11:55 > 0:11:57- It's twice as big.

0:11:57 > 0:11:58- Three times as big.

0:11:58 > 0:11:59- Three times as big.- - There weren't any houses there.

0:11:59 > 0:12:00- There weren't any houses there.

0:12:00 > 0:12:02- The shop is still here.

0:12:02 > 0:12:02- The shop is still here.- - Sports Day was held over there.

0:12:02 > 0:12:04- Sports Day was held over there.

0:12:05 > 0:12:09- The school is still in use, - chapel and church are flourishing...

0:12:09 > 0:12:13- ..as well as the Young Farmers' Club - and the shop.

0:12:13 > 0:12:16- This is where we caught - the school bus.

0:12:16 > 0:12:20- I had a cello - which I dragged along the ground.

0:12:21 > 0:12:24- Mrs Andrews made a sling for it.

0:12:24 > 0:12:26- Hello!

0:12:26 > 0:12:30- Do you remember Mrs Andrews - receiving the OBE?

0:12:30 > 0:12:31- MBE.

0:12:31 > 0:12:31- MBE.- - She came up to London.

0:12:31 > 0:12:33- She came up to London.

0:12:33 > 0:12:34- Look who's here!

0:12:34 > 0:12:35- Look who's here!- - Hello, Dai bach!

0:12:35 > 0:12:35- Hello, Dai bach!

0:12:36 > 0:12:37- Moc! How's things?

0:12:37 > 0:12:39- What are you doing here?

0:12:39 > 0:12:39- What are you doing here?- - I've come home for a change.

0:12:39 > 0:12:42- I've come home for a change.

0:12:42 > 0:12:43- Do you remember Moc?

0:12:43 > 0:12:45- Do you remember Moc?- - Yes.

0:12:45 > 0:12:47- How are you?

0:12:47 > 0:12:47- How are you?- - This is my brother, Trefor.

0:12:47 > 0:12:49- This is my brother, Trefor.

0:12:49 > 0:12:50- Really?

0:12:50 > 0:12:50- Really?- - Don't you remember him?

0:12:50 > 0:12:51- Don't you remember him?

0:12:52 > 0:12:54- No. I remember you, though!

0:12:57 > 0:12:59- Idris and Mary live here.

0:12:59 > 0:13:01- Look at this garden.

0:13:01 > 0:13:04- Not a weed in sight. Straight rows.

0:13:06 > 0:13:10- Swedes, look. I have to go - to Gibraltar to buy swedes...

0:13:11 > 0:13:13- ..and take them back - through customs.

0:13:13 > 0:13:16- They think I've got drugs.

0:13:16 > 0:13:20- No wonder Idris is looking well. - He eats good, fresh food.

0:13:20 > 0:13:22- Here's Idris and Mary.

0:13:22 > 0:13:24- How are you?

0:13:24 > 0:13:26- Do you know who this is?

0:13:26 > 0:13:27- Do you know who this is?- - We know Trefor.

0:13:27 > 0:13:27- We know Trefor.

0:13:27 > 0:13:29- Nice to meet you.

0:13:31 > 0:13:33- Idris worked on the road.

0:13:33 > 0:13:35- No-one does that these days.

0:13:36 > 0:13:39- It's a great loss to Welsh villages.

0:13:39 > 0:13:40- I was the last one around here.

0:13:40 > 0:13:41- I was the last one around here.- - You didn't need bobbies.

0:13:41 > 0:13:41- You didn't need bobbies.

0:13:42 > 0:13:43- Road workers saw everything.

0:13:43 > 0:13:43- Road workers saw everything.- - That's right.

0:13:43 > 0:13:44- That's right.

0:13:44 > 0:13:48- Water drained away instead - of staying on the road surface.

0:13:49 > 0:13:54- I remember Mary in the shop - and in chapel and Sunday School.

0:13:54 > 0:13:55- The shop is still open.

0:13:55 > 0:13:56- The shop is still open.- - Yes.

0:13:56 > 0:13:57- Yes.

0:13:57 > 0:14:00- You sold Dairy Maids toffees.

0:14:00 > 0:14:01- Yes.

0:14:01 > 0:14:01- Yes.- - Dairy Maids.

0:14:01 > 0:14:02- Dairy Maids.

0:14:03 > 0:14:06- Mam would say, - "You can't have them."

0:14:06 > 0:14:08- "But I want them!"

0:14:08 > 0:14:12- I got angry - and Mam would take me outside...

0:14:13 > 0:14:16- Mam lived to a ripe old age.

0:14:16 > 0:14:20- She came from Tal-y-bont - in Ceredigion originally.

0:14:20 > 0:14:25- She kept her Tal-y-bont accent - until the very end.

0:14:25 > 0:14:28- We're off to Rhandir Uchaf Farm now.

0:14:28 > 0:14:31- Dewi, Dilys and Gwen lived here.

0:14:31 > 0:14:34- Dewi and his family live here now.

0:14:34 > 0:14:36- There's no-one home.

0:14:36 > 0:14:38- Dewi!

0:14:38 > 0:14:40- You look very smart.

0:14:40 > 0:14:41- Dilys.

0:14:41 > 0:14:41- Dilys.- - Hello.

0:14:41 > 0:14:42- Hello.

0:14:42 > 0:14:43- I've brought a visitor.

0:14:43 > 0:14:44- I've brought a visitor.- - Trefor.

0:14:44 > 0:14:44- Trefor.

0:14:44 > 0:14:47- How are you? Nice to see you.

0:14:47 > 0:14:49- I know Dai, of course!

0:14:50 > 0:14:54- I remember - you used to play the cello.

0:14:55 > 0:14:58- A cello was a rare thing - in Llangwyryfon.

0:14:59 > 0:15:01- It was heavy to carry too.

0:15:02 > 0:15:06- Mrs Andrews made me a sling - to carry it...

0:15:07 > 0:15:10- ..so I didn't drag it - along the road.

0:15:10 > 0:15:14- That didn't do the cello any good.

0:15:14 > 0:15:18- I had to practise in the cowshed, - not in the house.

0:15:21 > 0:15:22- Very good.

0:15:26 > 0:15:29- This is where we came - every morning.

0:15:29 > 0:15:33- We played ball. - Do you remember the ash heap?

0:15:33 > 0:15:38- We'd race over it - and slide down on zinc sheeting.

0:15:38 > 0:15:42- We had lots of fun - in the old coal shed.

0:15:42 > 0:15:45- I remember a bat behind the door.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49- That's where I first saw - a rabbit with myxomatosis.

0:15:50 > 0:15:52- It sat there on the step.

0:15:52 > 0:15:54- The bat was up there.

0:15:54 > 0:15:56- Let's go inside.

0:16:00 > 0:16:02- I'm glad it's still open.

0:16:03 > 0:16:04- The old school.

0:16:04 > 0:16:05- The old school.- - It hasn't changed much.

0:16:05 > 0:16:06- It hasn't changed much.

0:16:06 > 0:16:09- Mrs Andrews was here.

0:16:10 > 0:16:13- Boys came in through there - and girls through there.

0:16:15 > 0:16:17- A double bass stood there.

0:16:17 > 0:16:23- I spent most of my time at school - sitting here facing the wall.

0:16:23 > 0:16:25- I remember being given lines.

0:16:25 > 0:16:29- Lines in English - English - was more difficult than Welsh.

0:16:30 > 0:16:34- "Rudeness shows weakness - not strength."

0:16:35 > 0:16:36- I'll never forget that!

0:16:37 > 0:16:39- The garden was out there.

0:16:39 > 0:16:42- I remember that retired teacher - from Trefenter...

0:16:42 > 0:16:47- ..telling you, "Young man, - your English is atrocious."

0:16:47 > 0:16:51- And you replied, "My English - is better than your Welsh."

0:16:52 > 0:16:55- She went back into the house!

0:16:56 > 0:16:59- It's important - to keep these schools open.

0:17:00 > 0:17:03- Imagine how many people - feel just like us.

0:17:03 > 0:17:06- They'd like to visit - their old school.

0:17:06 > 0:17:08- You're right.

0:17:09 > 0:17:11- And their fathers before them.

0:17:11 > 0:17:14- Those benches are old, I'm sure.

0:17:14 > 0:17:16- They're not as old as us.

0:17:16 > 0:17:17- They're not as old as us.- - No. Nothing is as old as you!

0:17:17 > 0:17:19- No. Nothing is as old as you!

0:17:23 > 0:17:28- The little school and Tabor chapel - were important places for us.

0:17:28 > 0:17:32- We are what we are thanks to them.

0:17:33 > 0:17:39- Do you remember hearing the singing - in summer when the doors were open?

0:17:39 > 0:17:42- Standing here, worrying - whether you were in trouble.

0:17:44 > 0:17:49- Tabor, the old chapel. - You haven't seen it for 50 years.

0:17:49 > 0:17:53- I got up to do the milking - on Sunday mornings.

0:17:54 > 0:17:57- We milked 18 cows by hand.

0:17:57 > 0:18:01- Then I'd swallow a cup of tea - and some toast...

0:18:02 > 0:18:07- ..run upstairs to get changed, - then run all the way to chapel.

0:18:07 > 0:18:12- Just before I got to the mill, - you'd pass in a cart.

0:18:12 > 0:18:16- When I had breakfast, - you were still in bed.

0:18:16 > 0:18:18- Waving like the Queen!

0:18:18 > 0:18:20- I was always there before you.

0:18:20 > 0:18:21- I was always there before you.- - That's what you always wanted.

0:18:21 > 0:18:22- That's what you always wanted.

0:18:22 > 0:18:25- I didn't have much choice.

0:18:25 > 0:18:28- I didn't want to catch a cold.

0:18:28 > 0:18:29- Let's walk on.

0:18:31 > 0:18:33- It hasn't changed a bit.

0:18:33 > 0:18:35- Remember this old wall?

0:18:36 > 0:18:40- All the boys - sat on the wall looking down...

0:18:40 > 0:18:42- ..and discussing the week's events.

0:18:42 > 0:18:46- The women gathered in clusters - like bees around the door.

0:18:47 > 0:18:51- That's where I first sang - - in that vestry.

0:18:52 > 0:18:56- At the time, I never imagined - I would travel around so much.

0:18:57 > 0:18:58- Good gracious.

0:18:58 > 0:19:03- Let's see if you can remember - which was Tyncefn's pew.

0:19:03 > 0:19:05- I think I do.

0:19:06 > 0:19:07- This hasn't changed.

0:19:09 > 0:19:12- This is exactly - the way it used to be.

0:19:13 > 0:19:13- Now then.

0:19:13 > 0:19:14- Now then.- - I remember it well.

0:19:14 > 0:19:15- I remember it well.

0:19:15 > 0:19:16- Where was Tyncefn's pew?

0:19:16 > 0:19:17- Where was Tyncefn's pew?- - Here.

0:19:17 > 0:19:17- Here.

0:19:18 > 0:19:20- This was Tyncefn's pew.

0:19:21 > 0:19:26- I remember a preacher asking us - questions during Sunday School.

0:19:26 > 0:19:28- Our class answered well.

0:19:28 > 0:19:32- He thought the children of Tabor - knew their Bible well.

0:19:33 > 0:19:36- But, fair play, old John Owen... - Evans, the teacher...

0:19:37 > 0:19:41- ..used to bring a pound - of Blue Bird toffee with him.

0:19:42 > 0:19:45- He gave us a sweet - if we answered correctly.

0:19:46 > 0:19:51- Here you are in Tabor chapel, - 46 years after your last visit.

0:19:51 > 0:19:53- Yes, at least.

0:19:53 > 0:19:58- If just one visit can bring - forgiveness for such a lapse...

0:19:58 > 0:20:00- ..things can't be that bad.

0:20:01 > 0:20:05- Let's move on, - or we'll be running late.

0:20:05 > 0:20:07- Excellent.

0:20:09 > 0:20:10- Come on, Trefor.

0:20:11 > 0:20:13- Some things never change.

0:20:13 > 0:20:17- It was always "Come on, Trefor" - when he was young too.

0:20:18 > 0:20:21- But he always arrived in good time.

0:20:21 > 0:20:25- Trefor seemed to have nine days - in a week...

0:20:25 > 0:20:28- ..whereas I never had time - for anything.

0:20:30 > 0:20:33- I wonder what he's like at farming.

0:20:33 > 0:20:35- THE DOGS BARK

0:20:48 > 0:20:51- Fetch the dosing pump from the shed.

0:20:51 > 0:20:53- You can do that.

0:20:55 > 0:20:58- You're opening the door - the wrong way!

0:20:59 > 0:21:01- Calm down, calm down!

0:21:01 > 0:21:03- Where's this drug?

0:21:04 > 0:21:06- Drugs - where are the drugs?

0:21:09 > 0:21:10- These?

0:21:10 > 0:21:10- These?- - Trefor! Trefor!

0:21:10 > 0:21:12- Trefor! Trefor!

0:21:13 > 0:21:15- Trefor!

0:21:17 > 0:21:22- Stay on the road in case they go - towards the house.

0:21:22 > 0:21:24- Is this the right one?

0:21:24 > 0:21:25- Is this the right one?- - Don't hold it like that.

0:21:25 > 0:21:26- Don't hold it like that.

0:21:26 > 0:21:28- You look like Clint Eastwood!

0:21:29 > 0:21:30- Stay there, stay there.

0:21:31 > 0:21:32- Stay there.

0:21:32 > 0:21:32- Stay there.- - "Do you feel lucky, punk?"

0:21:32 > 0:21:35- "Do you feel lucky, punk?"

0:21:35 > 0:21:37- Come by. Stay there.

0:21:37 > 0:21:40- Whay, whay, whay, whay.

0:21:40 > 0:21:41- Come by.

0:21:41 > 0:21:44- Stop messing around, - the dog will bite your backside.

0:21:45 > 0:21:46- Stand, stand.

0:21:47 > 0:21:49- Oh, who opened that gate?!

0:21:54 > 0:21:57- That's how dogs - are supposed to work.

0:21:57 > 0:21:58- In you go.

0:21:58 > 0:21:58- In you go.- - I'm not a dog.

0:21:58 > 0:21:59- I'm not a dog.

0:22:00 > 0:22:01- I know you're not.

0:22:02 > 0:22:03- Right, that'll do.

0:22:03 > 0:22:07- Go round there - and get in behind them.

0:22:07 > 0:22:09- Close the gate behind you.

0:22:10 > 0:22:11- Give it a shake.

0:22:11 > 0:22:12- Give it a shake.- - Wait a minute.

0:22:12 > 0:22:12- Wait a minute.

0:22:12 > 0:22:16- Have you shut the gate properly? - No, you haven't.

0:22:17 > 0:22:20- The sheep will be away to Llanilar!

0:22:20 > 0:22:21- Come on, shut it!

0:22:22 > 0:22:23- Come over here.

0:22:23 > 0:22:25- Give them one dose each.

0:22:26 > 0:22:27- Have you shaken it?

0:22:28 > 0:22:30- Have you shaken... ?

0:22:30 > 0:22:32- Haven't you ever taken any medicine?

0:22:32 > 0:22:33- Haven't you ever taken any medicine?- - Not with one of these.

0:22:33 > 0:22:34- Not with one of these.

0:22:34 > 0:22:36- Do you stick up their backsides?

0:22:36 > 0:22:37- Do you stick up their backsides?- - No, the front end.

0:22:37 > 0:22:38- No, the front end.

0:22:38 > 0:22:40- I know that!

0:22:42 > 0:22:45- Don't put the whole bag - in her mouth!

0:22:45 > 0:22:46- In her mouth.

0:22:46 > 0:22:47- In her mouth.- - Just one? How many?

0:22:47 > 0:22:47- Just one? How many?

0:22:47 > 0:22:50- One. You've given her six.

0:22:50 > 0:22:52- Whoa, you've given her too much.

0:22:53 > 0:22:54- Will you give me a job, Dai?

0:22:54 > 0:22:56- Will you give me a job, Dai?- - A job? We've got 1,000 to do.

0:22:56 > 0:22:56- A job? We've got 1,000 to do.

0:22:57 > 0:22:59- You've only got six.

0:22:59 > 0:23:00- Dr Jones.

0:23:05 > 0:23:07- I use these for training dogs.

0:23:07 > 0:23:08- I chose six small sheep.

0:23:08 > 0:23:10- I chose six small sheep.- - The same sheep all the time?

0:23:10 > 0:23:11- The same sheep all the time?

0:23:11 > 0:23:13- Yes.

0:23:13 > 0:23:16- They were very small - but they've improved.

0:23:16 > 0:23:17- They're fine.

0:23:19 > 0:23:21- Is that it?

0:23:21 > 0:23:25- Stay on the road... - but I've got the dog.

0:23:26 > 0:23:27- You'll have to come this way.

0:23:27 > 0:23:29- You'll have to come this way.- - If you want me to do it again...

0:23:29 > 0:23:31- If you want me to do it again...

0:23:31 > 0:23:32- ..bad luck.

0:23:33 > 0:23:36- Stand, stand, stand.

0:23:36 > 0:23:38- Stand, stand.

0:23:39 > 0:23:41- This is a young dog.

0:23:41 > 0:23:43- He's two years old.

0:23:43 > 0:23:46- He'll start doing trials next year.

0:23:46 > 0:23:48- You'll see him go.

0:23:48 > 0:23:49- He's a bit raw.

0:23:50 > 0:23:51- Come by.

0:23:51 > 0:23:51- Come by.- - Total dedication.

0:23:51 > 0:23:53- Total dedication.

0:23:53 > 0:23:56- How many years will he work?

0:23:57 > 0:23:59- It's a matter of luck.

0:24:01 > 0:24:02- DAI WHISTLES

0:24:12 > 0:24:14- DAI CALLS TO THE DOG

0:24:15 > 0:24:16- Good dog.

0:24:17 > 0:24:20- My dog's getting old. - This is his replacement.

0:24:21 > 0:24:26- Let me tell you, this is far - more difficult than driving a taxi.

0:24:26 > 0:24:29- Driving a taxi - is like wheeling a wheelbarrow.

0:24:29 > 0:24:32- If you say so, Dai!

0:24:32 > 0:24:32- .

0:24:36 > 0:24:36- 888

0:24:36 > 0:24:38- 888- - 888

0:24:44 > 0:24:48- London is a very busy place - to drive around.

0:24:48 > 0:24:52- Trefor works only 12 weeks a year - these days.

0:24:52 > 0:24:55- His brother - works all the other weeks!

0:24:57 > 0:24:59- How long have you driven taxis?

0:24:59 > 0:25:00- How long have you driven taxis?- - 26 years.

0:25:00 > 0:25:00- 26 years.

0:25:01 > 0:25:03- How did you learn?

0:25:03 > 0:25:04- You know your way around.

0:25:04 > 0:25:07- You know your way around.- - You have to do the 'Knowledge'.

0:25:07 > 0:25:09- They give you a pamphlet.

0:25:11 > 0:25:13- There are 300 headings.

0:25:14 > 0:25:17- One heading might be - Paddington Station to...

0:25:17 > 0:25:20- ..let's say, Waterloo Station.

0:25:21 > 0:25:27- You have to go out on a moped, - though I did it on a bike.

0:25:28 > 0:25:29- A pushbike.

0:25:29 > 0:25:32- I cycled 13,000 miles in 20 months.

0:25:33 > 0:25:34- Good gracious!

0:25:34 > 0:25:37- Have you picked up anyone famous?

0:25:38 > 0:25:42- Yes - Lord Snowdon, Meryl Streep, - Van Morrison.

0:25:43 > 0:25:45- I got a job one night...

0:25:46 > 0:25:49- ..I went to the studio - to pick up Lord Snowdon.

0:25:50 > 0:25:53- He wanted to go - to Kensington Palace.

0:25:53 > 0:25:59- I helped him put his kit in the car, - cameras and lights and things.

0:25:59 > 0:26:04- He said, "Can you give me a hand?" - "Yes, no problem."

0:26:04 > 0:26:10- I went into the Palace, and a voice - said, "Who's there? Who's there?"

0:26:10 > 0:26:14- Tony said, - "It's alright, dear. It's only me."

0:26:14 > 0:26:17- Then she said, "Well, don't make - a noise. Goodnight."

0:26:18 > 0:26:19- And that was it.

0:26:20 > 0:26:21- Who was she?

0:26:21 > 0:26:21- Who was she?- - Princess Margaret.

0:26:21 > 0:26:22- Princess Margaret.

0:26:23 > 0:26:25- Do you get any trouble?

0:26:25 > 0:26:28- You have all kinds of people here.

0:26:29 > 0:26:31- I don't get much trouble.

0:26:31 > 0:26:34- It happens sometimes, but you learn.

0:26:35 > 0:26:39- At night, you give them - the 25-yard test.

0:26:40 > 0:26:43- You stop 25 yards - in front of them...

0:26:44 > 0:26:48- ..then watch in the mirror - to see how they walk.

0:26:49 > 0:26:52- If they can't walk properly, - you drive away.

0:26:52 > 0:26:53- You leave them?

0:26:53 > 0:26:53- You leave them?- - Yes, and they go, "Oh, you... !"

0:26:53 > 0:26:56- Yes, and they go, "Oh, you... !"

0:26:57 > 0:26:59- You have to do it.

0:26:59 > 0:27:01- Do you get Welsh people?

0:27:01 > 0:27:04- Yes. There were four old women.

0:27:04 > 0:27:07- I picked them up from Selfridges.

0:27:07 > 0:27:10- They wanted to go to Harrods.

0:27:10 > 0:27:13- As I took them to Harrods...

0:27:13 > 0:27:18- ..one of them said, "I'm sure - this sod's going the wrong way."...

0:27:19 > 0:27:21- ..but I didn't say anything.

0:27:22 > 0:27:27- Then, we got to Harrods, and I said, - "That's the correct way, you know."

0:27:28 > 0:27:29- She blushed!

0:27:36 > 0:27:38- This was a very special afternoon.

0:27:39 > 0:27:42- I hadn't seen my sister - for many years...

0:27:42 > 0:27:45- ..but she would meet us - this afternoon.

0:27:46 > 0:27:52- You're my only sister and - I haven't seen you for seven years.

0:27:52 > 0:27:53- It's terrible, isn't it?

0:27:54 > 0:27:57- You don't speak Welsh - but you understand it.

0:27:57 > 0:27:58- Yes. Slowly.

0:27:58 > 0:27:58- Yes. Slowly.- - She understands everything.

0:27:58 > 0:27:59- She understands everything.

0:27:59 > 0:28:01- I don't get much practice.

0:28:01 > 0:28:01- I don't get much practice.- - Not just Welsh.

0:28:01 > 0:28:03- Not just Welsh.

0:28:04 > 0:28:08- Remember coming here when we went - to Castle Street chapel?

0:28:08 > 0:28:11- Yeah... well, no - I was outside.

0:28:11 > 0:28:14- I wasn't old enough to come in.

0:28:15 > 0:28:20- As children, we'd go to the Lion's - Corner House with the wives.

0:28:20 > 0:28:24- The orchestra played "Happy Birthday - To You" on your birthday.

0:28:25 > 0:28:29- I said it was my birthday - each time I went there!

0:28:29 > 0:28:31- The men came here.

0:28:31 > 0:28:35- In the country, when I was a boy...

0:28:35 > 0:28:40- ..you weren't supposed to drink - at all, let alone on Sunday.

0:28:40 > 0:28:44- Here, the men went straight - from chapel to pub.

0:28:44 > 0:28:48- I thought, - "If Auntie Hannah saw me now!"

0:28:48 > 0:28:53- Remember when I cut all your hair? - You were two years old.

0:28:53 > 0:28:56- Dad had been cutting - the boys' hair...

0:28:57 > 0:29:00- ..and hadn't put - the electric clippers away.

0:29:00 > 0:29:05- I said, "Glenys, you'll get - ice cream if I can cut your hair."

0:29:05 > 0:29:08- And I cut her hair with clippers!

0:29:09 > 0:29:13- Then I got a shaving brush - and I lathered your head...

0:29:13 > 0:29:15- ..and shaved your head with a razor!

0:29:15 > 0:29:16- ..and shaved your head with a razor!- - That's why it's straight now.

0:29:16 > 0:29:17- That's why it's straight now.

0:29:17 > 0:29:19- It's your fault.

0:29:19 > 0:29:22- I think Trefor - looks like our father.

0:29:23 > 0:29:24- Everyone says that.

0:29:24 > 0:29:25- Everyone says that.- - You look exactly like him.

0:29:25 > 0:29:26- You look exactly like him.

0:29:27 > 0:29:29- But you've got his mouth.

0:29:29 > 0:29:29- But you've got his mouth.- - I wouldn't say that.

0:29:29 > 0:29:30- I wouldn't say that.

0:29:31 > 0:29:34- You've got his head and his nose.

0:29:34 > 0:29:36- Who am I like?

0:29:36 > 0:29:39- I must have a bit of both.

0:29:40 > 0:29:45- The old photographs - show us how much we've changed.

0:29:45 > 0:29:49- These parts of London - have changed too.

0:29:49 > 0:29:51- We're looking for Castle Street - chapel.

0:29:52 > 0:29:54- Isn't the Palladium down there?

0:29:54 > 0:29:58- The Palladium's here, - and that's where I sold hot dogs.

0:29:59 > 0:30:01- I had a hot dog stand.

0:30:01 > 0:30:04- One Sunday, the Salvation Army - were singing...

0:30:05 > 0:30:09- ..and Mam came out of the - tube station with her friends.

0:30:09 > 0:30:14- She looked at me and I said, - "Would you like a hot dog?"

0:30:15 > 0:30:19- But off she went - to the chapel in Castle Street.

0:30:19 > 0:30:20- I bet she was angry!

0:30:20 > 0:30:21- I bet she was angry!- - And who got the blame for it?

0:30:21 > 0:30:23- And who got the blame for it?

0:30:25 > 0:30:28- The old chapel - looks worse for wear.

0:30:29 > 0:30:31- It's sad, it's horrible.

0:30:31 > 0:30:32- Look out.

0:30:41 > 0:30:42- Here's the old chapel.

0:30:44 > 0:30:45- It was full on Sunday nights.

0:30:45 > 0:30:46- It was full on Sunday nights.- - Every Sunday night.

0:30:46 > 0:30:47- Every Sunday night.

0:30:47 > 0:30:48- It was full to the rafters.

0:30:48 > 0:30:50- It was full to the rafters.- - If you weren't here by 5.30...

0:30:50 > 0:30:51- If you weren't here by 5.30...

0:30:51 > 0:30:53- Nowhere to sit.

0:30:53 > 0:30:55- ..you lost your place.

0:30:55 > 0:30:56- We sat up...

0:30:56 > 0:30:57- We sat up...- - The organ up there.

0:30:57 > 0:30:58- The organ up there.

0:30:58 > 0:31:01- That's where we sat, - behind the clock.

0:31:02 > 0:31:07- I remember the organist came to sit - with the choir during the sermon.

0:31:09 > 0:31:11- To listen to the sermon.

0:31:12 > 0:31:16- There used to be a rail here, - didn't there?

0:31:16 > 0:31:19- Yes. I was baptised in there.

0:31:19 > 0:31:20- Glenys too.

0:31:20 > 0:31:21- Glenys too.- - Yes, and me.

0:31:21 > 0:31:21- Yes, and me.

0:31:22 > 0:31:27- Walter P had just had a hernia - operation when he baptised us.

0:31:27 > 0:31:29- He did six of us.

0:31:29 > 0:31:31- I was the smallest.

0:31:31 > 0:31:33- He baptised six of us in that pool.

0:31:33 > 0:31:35- He baptised six of us in that pool.- - I was spared that pool.

0:31:35 > 0:31:35- He baptised six of us in that pool.

0:31:35 > 0:31:38- I became a Methodist in Ceredigion.

0:31:38 > 0:31:38- Grand people came here.

0:31:38 > 0:31:40- Grand people came here.

0:31:40 > 0:31:41- Terry James - Dr Terry.

0:31:41 > 0:31:42- Terry James - Dr Terry.- - Lloyd George.

0:31:42 > 0:31:43- Lloyd George.

0:31:43 > 0:31:46- Lloyd George had a corner seat here.

0:31:46 > 0:31:48- Stop interrupting Glenys.

0:31:48 > 0:31:50- He's a bit deaf.

0:31:51 > 0:31:53- Lloyd George had the corner seat.

0:31:53 > 0:31:55- You don't remember Lloyd George.

0:31:55 > 0:31:56- You don't remember Lloyd George.- - Mum used to say...

0:31:56 > 0:31:57- You don't remember Lloyd George.

0:31:57 > 0:31:57- ..that Lloyd George - sat in the corner.

0:31:57 > 0:32:00- ..that Lloyd George - sat in the corner.

0:32:00 > 0:32:01- Every year...

0:32:02 > 0:32:06- ..he used to invite all the chapel - children for a garden party.

0:32:07 > 0:32:10- This is where you came - with our grandparents.

0:32:10 > 0:32:12- Every Sunday afternoon and evening.

0:32:13 > 0:32:14- It was absolutely packed.

0:32:14 > 0:32:14- It was absolutely packed.- - Do you remember Palm Sunday?

0:32:14 > 0:32:16- Do you remember Palm Sunday?

0:32:16 > 0:32:17- Oh, it was beautiful.

0:32:17 > 0:32:18- Oh, it was beautiful.- - There were flowers here...

0:32:18 > 0:32:18- There were flowers here...

0:32:19 > 0:32:22- This would be full from here up - - flowers everywhere.

0:32:22 > 0:32:24- Just displays of flowers.

0:32:28 > 0:32:32- Glenys had a high regard - for Castle Street Welsh chapel.

0:32:32 > 0:32:36- It was good to see her - looking so well.

0:32:36 > 0:32:41- Trefor spent years in the city - among the great and the good.

0:32:42 > 0:32:44- He wanted to show me around.

0:32:44 > 0:32:46- Do you know this area well?

0:32:46 > 0:32:47- Do you know this area well?- - Yes. I worked here for years.

0:32:47 > 0:32:48- Yes. I worked here for years.

0:32:49 > 0:32:54- The Clermont Club is over there, - with the casino on the first floor.

0:32:54 > 0:32:57- I was the doorman on that blue door.

0:32:57 > 0:32:58- I was the doorman on that blue door.- - What did you do?

0:32:58 > 0:32:59- What did you do?

0:32:59 > 0:33:00- Just stand in the door?

0:33:00 > 0:33:01- Just stand in the door?- - And open car doors.

0:33:01 > 0:33:02- And open car doors.

0:33:02 > 0:33:08- "Good evening, nice to see you, Lord - and Lady Whatever Your Name Is."

0:33:08 > 0:33:13- Then, they left the car with you - and you parked it.

0:33:13 > 0:33:14- We had about 100 cars every night.

0:33:14 > 0:33:16- We had about 100 cars every night.- - It's a great place.

0:33:16 > 0:33:16- We had about 100 cars every night.

0:33:16 > 0:33:19- There's plenty of room to sit.

0:33:24 > 0:33:29- The back entrance of the Clermont, - where they put the rubbish...

0:33:29 > 0:33:32- ..is in the mews behind there.

0:33:32 > 0:33:36- There was a security camera - behind the club.

0:33:36 > 0:33:40- Once, they filmed a man - putting a bag down.

0:33:40 > 0:33:44- They caught him - coming down the stairs one evening.

0:33:44 > 0:33:45- A staff chef.

0:33:46 > 0:33:49- They questioned him - and he passed out, unconscious.

0:33:49 > 0:33:51- A doctor was called.

0:33:51 > 0:33:53- They opened his shirt.

0:33:53 > 0:33:54- He had hypothermia.

0:33:55 > 0:33:59- He had strapped frozen fillet steaks - all over his body!

0:34:00 > 0:34:01- He was stealing them!

0:34:01 > 0:34:02- He was stealing them!- - With sticky tape!

0:34:02 > 0:34:02- With sticky tape!

0:34:03 > 0:34:04- Yes, that's right!

0:34:04 > 0:34:04- .

0:34:10 > 0:34:10- 888

0:34:10 > 0:34:12- 888- - 888

0:34:14 > 0:34:18- It's strange how different - two brothers can be.

0:34:18 > 0:34:22- "Give me little Wales, - land of whinberries and lakes."

0:34:22 > 0:34:27- My brother, Trefor, prefers - the luxury of Estepona in Spain...

0:34:27 > 0:34:28- ..and heat.

0:34:28 > 0:34:30- He enjoys every day.

0:34:30 > 0:34:36- He's always been lucky, but I don't - know if I'd change places with him.

0:34:44 > 0:34:46- There are oranges on the trees.

0:34:47 > 0:34:51- When they're ripe, - the council picks them all...

0:34:52 > 0:34:55- ..and local people - make marmalade from them.

0:34:56 > 0:35:00- They're not suitable for eating - as they are.

0:35:01 > 0:35:03- Have one.

0:35:05 > 0:35:09- They'll be dropping - in about a month's time.

0:35:10 > 0:35:11- That smells good!

0:35:12 > 0:35:13- They make marmalade from them.

0:35:13 > 0:35:14- They make marmalade from them.- - Right on the street.

0:35:14 > 0:35:14- Right on the street.

0:35:15 > 0:35:18- Get them from a tree - instead of a shop!

0:35:20 > 0:35:23- Good gracious - a gift from heaven!

0:35:28 > 0:35:31- Who said Cardiganshire folk - are tight?

0:35:31 > 0:35:33- Here's the one I picked!

0:35:36 > 0:35:38- This is a very traditional street.

0:35:39 > 0:35:42- It's one of the older parts of town.

0:35:42 > 0:35:44- A nice, secluded square.

0:35:44 > 0:35:47- There a lots of similar squares.

0:35:47 > 0:35:49- More orange squash!

0:35:50 > 0:35:52- How much do these houses cost?

0:35:52 > 0:35:54- About 140,000.

0:35:56 > 0:35:59- Do many English people come here?

0:35:59 > 0:36:03- Yes, many people from Wales - and England live here.

0:36:03 > 0:36:07- They live here, though - - they're not on holiday.

0:36:07 > 0:36:09- There aren't many holidaymakers.

0:36:14 > 0:36:16- This is Dafydd who cuts my hair.

0:36:16 > 0:36:17- This is Dafydd who cuts my hair.- - Nice to meet you.

0:36:17 > 0:36:18- Nice to meet you.

0:36:18 > 0:36:19- Dafydd?

0:36:19 > 0:36:20- Dafydd?- - Dafydd. He's David - Dafydd.

0:36:20 > 0:36:21- Dafydd. He's David - Dafydd.

0:36:21 > 0:36:22- The same?

0:36:22 > 0:36:22- The same?- - Is your name Dafydd?

0:36:22 > 0:36:24- Is your name Dafydd?

0:36:24 > 0:36:25- Yes.

0:36:25 > 0:36:26- Yes.- - Who cuts your hair?

0:36:26 > 0:36:27- Who cuts your hair?

0:36:27 > 0:36:29- HE SPEAKS SPANISH

0:36:33 > 0:36:36- Old people come to sit here.

0:36:36 > 0:36:39- Yes, they sit in the sun all day.

0:36:39 > 0:36:42- There are squares all around town.

0:36:42 > 0:36:42- There are squares all around town.- - Where people sit and drink.

0:36:42 > 0:36:44- Where people sit and drink.

0:36:44 > 0:36:46- And chat.

0:36:46 > 0:36:48- Are they local people?

0:36:48 > 0:36:49- Are they local people?- - Nearly all of them.

0:36:51 > 0:36:53- The English people live locally too.

0:36:53 > 0:36:55- Let's sit down here.

0:36:58 > 0:37:00- TREFOR SPEAKS SPANISH

0:37:01 > 0:37:04- I want a large one. Grande.

0:37:05 > 0:37:07- White coffee.

0:37:08 > 0:37:11- When did you first come here?

0:37:11 > 0:37:13- In 1991, on the boat.

0:37:13 > 0:37:15- It was January.

0:37:15 > 0:37:19- I came to leave the boat here - until autumn...

0:37:19 > 0:37:22- ..and then I was off - to the Caribbean.

0:37:22 > 0:37:25- But I came here and I never left.

0:37:26 > 0:37:28- How many weeks a year do you work?

0:37:28 > 0:37:29- How many weeks a year do you work?- - 12 weeks.

0:37:29 > 0:37:29- How many weeks a year do you work?

0:37:29 > 0:37:32- So you have 40 weeks to enjoy.

0:37:33 > 0:37:33- Yes.

0:37:33 > 0:37:34- Yes.- - Good gracious!

0:37:34 > 0:37:35- Good gracious!

0:37:36 > 0:37:40- Let me tell you, - I work 51.5 weeks a year.

0:37:40 > 0:37:42- You're doing something you enjoy.

0:37:43 > 0:37:44- That's the secret.

0:37:45 > 0:37:47- BELLS RING

0:37:49 > 0:37:51- That's probably true.

0:37:52 > 0:37:56- Trefor loved cycling - when he was a boy.

0:37:57 > 0:38:02- He got me involved too, - and I was better than I thought.

0:38:02 > 0:38:04- But I'd prefer this mare.

0:38:14 > 0:38:18- I got on this bike, - full of enthusiasm and confidence.

0:38:18 > 0:38:21- But I'd rather be with those horses.

0:38:21 > 0:38:21- But I'd rather be with those horses.- - That's Estepona's equestrian school.

0:38:21 > 0:38:24- That's Estepona's equestrian school.

0:38:24 > 0:38:28- They've put on displays - at the Royal Welsh Show.

0:38:28 > 0:38:32- Yes, and at fairs and at Christmas.

0:38:32 > 0:38:36- There's a parade of horses - in August in Estepona.

0:38:37 > 0:38:38- How often do you cycle?

0:38:38 > 0:38:39- How often do you cycle?- - Every day when I'm not working.

0:38:39 > 0:38:41- Every day when I'm not working.

0:38:41 > 0:38:42- I go shopping.

0:38:43 > 0:38:46- You travel to places - like France too.

0:38:46 > 0:38:51- Yes. I've been along the Canal - du Midi and the Canal Lateral...

0:38:51 > 0:38:53- ..from Bordeaux to Narbonne.

0:38:55 > 0:38:57- Do we turn back here?

0:39:01 > 0:39:06- It's the end of the season, and - there aren't so many people here.

0:39:07 > 0:39:08- But they keep the place so tidy.

0:39:08 > 0:39:09- But they keep the place so tidy.- - Constantly.

0:39:09 > 0:39:12- They call them marineros.

0:39:12 > 0:39:14- Move on, Trefor.

0:39:14 > 0:39:18- There's a brake on each side - of the handlebars.

0:39:18 > 0:39:20- There's water beside me too.

0:39:22 > 0:39:27- If I had a pound for every boat, - I'd have a lot of money.

0:39:27 > 0:39:29- Most of them are British.

0:39:30 > 0:39:32- People can travel from England...

0:39:32 > 0:39:36- ..from London, Manchester, - Liverpool, Cardiff, in two hours.

0:39:36 > 0:39:39- It's paradise - for people who like boats.

0:39:39 > 0:39:42- Two weeks on the water, non-stop.

0:39:42 > 0:39:46- I don't like being on water though.

0:39:46 > 0:39:48- People play cards and read a lot.

0:39:48 > 0:39:49- People play cards and read a lot.- - Play cards and read?

0:39:49 > 0:39:49- Play cards and read?

0:39:49 > 0:39:52- You can do that at home.

0:39:53 > 0:39:55- You can see dolphins and whales.

0:39:56 > 0:39:58- You can see sharks.

0:39:58 > 0:40:01- I'd prefer to see - sheep, lambs, pigs and dogs.

0:40:04 > 0:40:09- Every September, Trefor loves to go - to watch the bullfighting...

0:40:10 > 0:40:12- ..in the historic town of Ronda...

0:40:13 > 0:40:17- ..when matadors and picadors - are in town.

0:40:17 > 0:40:19- The ring itself.

0:40:19 > 0:40:21- This is the bullring.

0:40:22 > 0:40:24- The ground is hard.

0:40:25 > 0:40:25- Is the place always full of people?

0:40:25 > 0:40:27- Is the place always full of people?- - Yes.

0:40:27 > 0:40:27- Is the place always full of people?

0:40:27 > 0:40:27- There's a brass band up there.

0:40:27 > 0:40:30- There's a brass band up there.

0:40:30 > 0:40:33- The president sits there - with his friends.

0:40:33 > 0:40:37- He signals when to start - and when to stop.

0:40:37 > 0:40:41- You said it's the most famous one - in Spain.

0:40:42 > 0:40:45- The wall isn't very high. - Do bulls escape?

0:40:45 > 0:40:49- Yes, occasionally - - and people jump into the ring.

0:40:49 > 0:40:51- It sounds like Tregaron mart!

0:40:54 > 0:40:58- How long does a matador - stay in the ring?

0:40:58 > 0:41:00- Twenty minutes with each bull.

0:41:00 > 0:41:02- Good gracious, twenty minutes!

0:41:02 > 0:41:06- Not on his own though. - He's got picadors too.

0:41:06 > 0:41:10- If he does well, - he receives one ear.

0:41:10 > 0:41:12- If he does better - two ears.

0:41:13 > 0:41:17- If he's exceptional, - he receives the tail as well.

0:41:20 > 0:41:22- A poor prize for exceptional work!

0:41:22 > 0:41:22- A poor prize for exceptional work!- - In places like Madrid...

0:41:22 > 0:41:24- In places like Madrid...

0:41:24 > 0:41:28- ..they're so critical, that - winning one ear makes your season.

0:41:28 > 0:41:30- Your fees shoot up.

0:41:30 > 0:41:33- They're very tough in Madrid.

0:41:33 > 0:41:35- They're tough here too.

0:41:37 > 0:41:41- Any farmer - would be proud of this bull.

0:41:41 > 0:41:42- That's a good shape.

0:41:42 > 0:41:43- That's a good shape.- - They weigh just under 600 kilos.

0:41:43 > 0:41:44- They weigh just under 600 kilos.

0:41:44 > 0:41:46- Four years old.

0:41:46 > 0:41:49- Are they fed a special diet?

0:41:49 > 0:41:53- No-one touches them - from the day they're born.

0:41:53 > 0:41:56- They spend four years in the fields.

0:41:57 > 0:42:00- What happens to the meat - from these bulls?

0:42:01 > 0:42:05- It gets eaten, but it doesn't go - to a normal butcher.

0:42:05 > 0:42:11- It goes to butchers who only sell - bull meat from the bullfights.

0:42:12 > 0:42:14- The meat is very muscular.

0:42:15 > 0:42:16- It's all muscle.

0:42:19 > 0:42:21- Talking about meat makes me hungry.

0:42:22 > 0:42:24- Trefor is going to prepare lunch.

0:42:24 > 0:42:27- He takes me to buy a steak.

0:42:30 > 0:42:32- This is my butcher.

0:42:32 > 0:42:34- My butcher in Spain.

0:42:34 > 0:42:36- Look at all that meat!

0:42:36 > 0:42:39- He's here from 10.00am until 3.00pm.

0:42:39 > 0:42:44- He closes at 2.00pm and opens again - from 5.00pm until 9.00pm.

0:42:45 > 0:42:48- Does he slaughter his own meat?

0:42:48 > 0:42:49- Some of it.

0:42:49 > 0:42:52- He makes all these hamburgers...

0:42:52 > 0:42:54- ..and the escalopes.

0:42:54 > 0:42:55- Lovely.

0:42:56 > 0:42:58- Three or four people work here.

0:42:58 > 0:42:58- Three or four people work here.- - It's busy.

0:42:58 > 0:42:59- It's busy.

0:42:59 > 0:43:01- Very busy.

0:43:01 > 0:43:02- Sausages are hanging everywhere.

0:43:02 > 0:43:03- Sausages are hanging everywhere.- - I'll buy some of those.

0:43:03 > 0:43:05- I'll buy some of those.

0:43:05 > 0:43:06- What are those? Cured hams?

0:43:06 > 0:43:07- What are those? Cured hams?- - No, smoked.

0:43:07 > 0:43:08- No, smoked.

0:43:08 > 0:43:12- Black Foot - the best ham - has black bits on the feet.

0:43:13 > 0:43:17- How much would that cost - in British money?

0:43:17 > 0:43:19- That's about 60.

0:43:20 > 0:43:21- 60?

0:43:21 > 0:43:25- It'll keep for two or three years.

0:43:26 > 0:43:28- That wouldn't last me three years!

0:43:29 > 0:43:30- That's your problem!

0:43:30 > 0:43:34- You keep it in the kitchen - on a frame...

0:43:34 > 0:43:38- ..and each each time - you go past - bang!

0:43:38 > 0:43:39- Is it ready to eat?

0:43:39 > 0:43:42- Is it ready to eat?- - Yes. You just trim the white part.

0:43:43 > 0:43:44- How are you?

0:43:44 > 0:43:45- How are you?- - I'm very well, very well.

0:43:45 > 0:43:46- I'm very well, very well.

0:43:46 > 0:43:48- And you?

0:43:48 > 0:43:50- Very well. Today - very well.

0:43:51 > 0:43:53- Can I have two entrecotes?

0:43:53 > 0:43:54- Two thick.

0:43:54 > 0:43:55- Two thick.- - Yes. And very nice.

0:43:55 > 0:43:56- Yes. And very nice.

0:43:58 > 0:43:59- I have very nice entrecotes today.

0:43:59 > 0:44:00- I have very nice entrecotes today.- - Oh, lovely.

0:44:00 > 0:44:00- Oh, lovely.

0:44:05 > 0:44:06- How much thick, Trefor?

0:44:07 > 0:44:08- Yes.

0:44:08 > 0:44:08- Yes.- - OK?

0:44:08 > 0:44:09- OK?

0:44:09 > 0:44:11- Two?

0:44:11 > 0:44:13- Is that thick enough for you?

0:44:13 > 0:44:14- Is that thick enough for you?- - Yes - good gracious.

0:44:14 > 0:44:14- Yes - good gracious.

0:44:15 > 0:44:17- This is my brother, Dai.

0:44:17 > 0:44:17- This is my brother, Dai.- - Hello, how are you?

0:44:17 > 0:44:18- Hello, how are you?

0:44:18 > 0:44:19- This is Juan.

0:44:19 > 0:44:20- This is Juan.- - You look a good, wealthy butcher.

0:44:20 > 0:44:22- You look a good, wealthy butcher.

0:44:22 > 0:44:24- Yes, thank you!

0:44:24 > 0:44:28- Trefor is a good friend. - Very good friend.

0:44:28 > 0:44:29- He likes entrecote.

0:44:30 > 0:44:31- Garlic.

0:44:31 > 0:44:32- Garlic.- - That's right. I like it too.

0:44:32 > 0:44:34- That's right. I like it too.

0:44:34 > 0:44:35- HE SPEAKS SPANISH

0:44:35 > 0:44:36- HE SPEAKS SPANISH- - It's running in the family.

0:44:36 > 0:44:37- It's running in the family.

0:44:38 > 0:44:40- He's the cook, I'm the eater!

0:44:40 > 0:44:42- TREFOR SPEAKS SPANISH

0:44:43 > 0:44:45- He's a cheerful chap.

0:44:45 > 0:44:47- Yes. They all are.

0:44:48 > 0:44:49- Gracias, Juan.

0:44:49 > 0:44:50- Gracias, Juan.- - Thank you.

0:44:50 > 0:44:50- Thank you.

0:44:51 > 0:44:52- And congratulations.

0:44:52 > 0:44:52- And congratulations.- - Goodbye. Thank you.

0:44:52 > 0:44:53- Goodbye. Thank you.

0:44:53 > 0:44:55- Ta-ra.

0:44:57 > 0:44:59- Will you prepare the garlic, Dai?

0:45:00 > 0:45:01- Peel and crush it.

0:45:02 > 0:45:04- What are these round things?

0:45:04 > 0:45:06- Chorizo.

0:45:06 > 0:45:07- To eat before you eat.

0:45:07 > 0:45:08- To eat before you eat.- - You eat before you eat?

0:45:08 > 0:45:09- You eat before you eat?

0:45:09 > 0:45:11- An appetizer.

0:45:11 > 0:45:17- All the bars serve tapas - a plate - of things to nibble while you drink.

0:45:17 > 0:45:19- You never see Spaniards drunk.

0:45:19 > 0:45:23- They drink all day - but they're constantly eating too.

0:45:23 > 0:45:25- I try to do that!

0:45:25 > 0:45:25- I try to do that!- - Put these down...

0:45:25 > 0:45:26- Put these down...

0:45:27 > 0:45:30- ..as though you were lifting a lamb, - tenderly.

0:45:31 > 0:45:33- MOBILE PHONE

0:45:34 > 0:45:38- Don't be long! I don't want trouble - with these steaks!

0:45:40 > 0:45:43- I'd prefer a view - of sheep and cattle.

0:45:45 > 0:45:48- But I've nothing - against these steaks.

0:45:49 > 0:45:50- That's typical of Trefor.

0:45:51 > 0:45:53- When there's work to be done...

0:45:53 > 0:45:57- ..he's either on the phone - or in the toilet.

0:45:57 > 0:45:59- You can hear him laughing.

0:45:59 > 0:46:01- He'd talk to his shadow.

0:46:01 > 0:46:04- Trefor hasn't changed a bit.

0:46:05 > 0:46:10- How do you like steak? Medium rare, - rare, well done, cremated?

0:46:10 > 0:46:12- Large.

0:46:14 > 0:46:16- Remember to bring the wine.

0:46:16 > 0:46:17- Red?

0:46:17 > 0:46:18- Red?- - Red.

0:46:18 > 0:46:19- Red.

0:46:19 > 0:46:23- As they say in Spain, - "Mas vino tinto, por favor."

0:46:24 > 0:46:26- Right, are you ready?

0:46:26 > 0:46:28- I've already started.

0:46:28 > 0:46:33- Did you ever wonder if you were - doing the right thing, coming here?

0:46:34 > 0:46:35- And leaving Wales?

0:46:36 > 0:46:39- I hadn't... - I didn't know what would happen.

0:46:39 > 0:46:43- Talk about burn your boats - - that's what I did.

0:46:43 > 0:46:48- I sold a house in England - and bought a flat here.

0:46:49 > 0:46:53- All my money - went into buying this place.

0:46:53 > 0:46:59- I'd never get as much money for this - as I did for my place in England.

0:46:59 > 0:47:02- But I knew what I wanted.

0:47:02 > 0:47:04- I've lived in Estepona since 1991...

0:47:05 > 0:47:08- ..for a minimum - of three months a year.

0:47:08 > 0:47:13- I've got friends - from when I first came here.

0:47:13 > 0:47:15- Your steak is delicious.

0:47:16 > 0:47:19- Are you interested in football?

0:47:20 > 0:47:23- Just Real Madrid - because it's a communal thing.

0:47:24 > 0:47:27- Going to a Real Madrid - supporters' bar.

0:47:28 > 0:47:30- Watching the match.

0:47:31 > 0:47:36- I go to see a match - in Madrid three times a year.

0:47:36 > 0:47:39- We have a big lunch. It's social.

0:47:40 > 0:47:43- Each to his own.

0:47:44 > 0:47:47- I enjoyed myself in Estepona - in Spain...

0:47:47 > 0:47:50- ..but give me Wales every time.

0:47:50 > 0:47:54- It's nice to see - that family members are happy...

0:47:54 > 0:47:56- ..both Glenys and Trefor.

0:47:56 > 0:48:00- And I can assure you that I'm happy.

0:48:11 > 0:48:14- They say blood - is thicker than water...

0:48:14 > 0:48:17- ..but for you, - it seems the reverse is true.

0:48:18 > 0:48:22- You have to stop somewhere, - and here's where I want to stop.

0:48:22 > 0:48:25- I want to be here with my friends.

0:48:25 > 0:48:30- No-one could be closer to you - than Glenys and me...

0:48:30 > 0:48:32- ..your brother and sister.

0:48:33 > 0:48:36- But I'm comfortable with the fact - that you're comfortable...

0:48:37 > 0:48:39- ..and I really mean that...

0:48:39 > 0:48:41- ..among a new family.

0:48:41 > 0:48:43- Good.

0:48:49 > 0:48:53- Clermont Club, Annabel's, The Club, - The Saddle Room, Ladbrokes.

0:48:54 > 0:48:56- Trefor! Trefor!

0:48:57 > 0:48:58- Trefor!

0:48:58 > 0:49:02- Have you shut the gate properly? - No, you haven't.

0:49:02 > 0:49:03- The sheep will be away to Llanilar!

0:49:03 > 0:49:05- The sheep will be away to Llanilar!- - I worked in the Penthouse Club.

0:49:05 > 0:49:06- I worked in the Penthouse Club.

0:49:06 > 0:49:07- Do you remember it?

0:49:07 > 0:49:08- Do you remember it?- - No - I'm from Llanilar.

0:49:08 > 0:49:09- No - I'm from Llanilar.

0:49:09 > 0:49:11- Oh, who opened that gate?!

0:49:11 > 0:49:13- Calm down, calm down!

0:49:15 > 0:49:18- It's nice to see cattle - in the fields.

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