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0:00:13 > 0:00:17- This programme - is a little different from usual.
0:00:17 > 0:00:20- I'm in Pembrokeshire - to meet three women...
0:00:21 > 0:00:25- ..who carry out work which - isn't usually associated with women.
0:00:25 > 0:00:28- Come with me to see what it is.
0:00:42 > 0:00:46- Women Who Saw And Hammer
0:00:47 > 0:00:50- April 2010
0:00:58 > 0:01:01- This is Margaret Rhys - from Dinas Cross.
0:01:01 > 0:01:04- I'm used to seeing Margaret - as an accompanist...
0:01:05 > 0:01:07- ..at eisteddfodau and concerts.
0:01:07 > 0:01:11- I've had the honour - of singing with her many times.
0:01:11 > 0:01:14- Margaret, I never thought - I'd see you doing this!
0:01:15 > 0:01:16- Neither did I!
0:01:16 > 0:01:20- What are you doing? - Are you making some kind of joint?
0:01:20 > 0:01:23- Yes. They're called dovetails.
0:01:23 > 0:01:25- I've measured them out.
0:01:26 > 0:01:28- This helps.
0:01:28 > 0:01:31- It doesn't take - so much manual effort to cut them.
0:01:32 > 0:01:33- This helps a little.
0:01:34 > 0:01:36- Did you get the pattern from a book?
0:01:37 > 0:01:38- No.
0:01:38 > 0:01:41- There are machines - that can make dovetails.
0:01:42 > 0:01:47- But I had to measure this along the - side, to fit the side of the drawer.
0:01:47 > 0:01:49- This is a drawer.
0:01:50 > 0:01:53- It's a lot of work - which involves manual work.
0:01:53 > 0:01:57- But it helps to use this machine - at the beginning to start off.
0:01:57 > 0:02:00- How did you become interested - in this?
0:02:01 > 0:02:01- You've been doing it for a while.
0:02:01 > 0:02:03- You've been doing it for a while.- - About four years.
0:02:03 > 0:02:06- You've made many pieces of furniture.
0:02:06 > 0:02:08- Yes, many.
0:02:08 > 0:02:09- You come here once a week, do you?
0:02:09 > 0:02:11- You come here once a week, do you?- - Yes, on Tuesdays, usually.
0:02:12 > 0:02:15- I arrive in the morning - and stay all day.
0:02:16 > 0:02:17- I go home about 6.00pm.
0:02:19 > 0:02:22- I'd better go now, - before you tell me off!
0:02:22 > 0:02:26- When I sang a wrong note years ago, - you told me off!
0:02:26 > 0:02:27- That was many years ago!
0:02:27 > 0:02:29- That was many years ago!- - But we're still friends!
0:02:30 > 0:02:31- Yes!
0:02:38 > 0:02:41- Marian, you look fearsome - with that heavy hammer.
0:02:42 > 0:02:43- This can be dangerous.
0:02:44 > 0:02:45- I can well believe it!
0:02:45 > 0:02:47- This is Marian Rogers.
0:02:47 > 0:02:49- I know her husband well.
0:02:49 > 0:02:51- I didn't know you did this.
0:02:51 > 0:02:53- I didn't know you did this.- - I've been doing this for years.
0:02:53 > 0:02:54- I enjoy it very much.
0:02:55 > 0:02:58- You must have made a lot - of furniture over the years.
0:02:58 > 0:03:01- Yes. I started - when was it? - In 1998.
0:03:01 > 0:03:06- Really? You follow instructions - to make the items.
0:03:06 > 0:03:10- This looks very well made to me.
0:03:10 > 0:03:12- But it doesn't fit properly.
0:03:12 > 0:03:14- But you'll get it to fit.
0:03:14 > 0:03:16- Look at it. But it'll come.
0:03:16 > 0:03:18- So long as I don't hinder you.
0:03:18 > 0:03:20- It fits on that side.
0:03:20 > 0:03:22- And it fits...
0:03:22 > 0:03:24- ..on that side.
0:03:24 > 0:03:28- Do you follow plans or do you rely - on your own measurements?
0:03:28 > 0:03:30- From the outset...
0:03:30 > 0:03:35- ..you work out what's needed - and what the measurements should be.
0:03:35 > 0:03:37- It must be a long working day.
0:03:38 > 0:03:42- No, the day passes quickly - as I'm in good company.
0:03:42 > 0:03:46- Harry Wears organized - the furniture-making courses.
0:03:47 > 0:03:50- His son, Nick, has now - taken over as the instructor.
0:03:51 > 0:03:53- Cut the dovetails out on this end.
0:03:55 > 0:03:59- Betty Howells, you're making - something rather unusual.
0:04:00 > 0:04:02- Yes, a sheet music cabinet.
0:04:02 > 0:04:04- Yes, a sheet music cabinet.- - Is it for a family member?
0:04:04 > 0:04:06- It's for me.
0:04:06 > 0:04:06- For your home?
0:04:06 > 0:04:07- For your home?- - Yes.
0:04:08 > 0:04:10- My sister-in-law has one...
0:04:10 > 0:04:15- ..and it's so handy - for storing sheets of music.
0:04:17 > 0:04:19- So I thought I'd try to make one.
0:04:19 > 0:04:21- It has lots of drawers.
0:04:21 > 0:04:23- Yes.
0:04:23 > 0:04:26- One of the drawers - will be different from the others.
0:04:27 > 0:04:31- It will look like three drawers, - but it's one big drawer.
0:04:31 > 0:04:35- Instead of opening downwards, - it will open out a little...
0:04:35 > 0:04:37- ..so that I can then pull it out.
0:04:38 > 0:04:41- It will make it easier - to get into the drawer.
0:04:41 > 0:04:43- I won't have to rummage around.
0:04:43 > 0:04:48- You obviously enjoy this - and look forward to coming here.
0:04:48 > 0:04:49- Yes.
0:04:50 > 0:04:53- It's lovely. It's really nice - to be able to come here.
0:05:20 > 0:05:23- This smallholding - is called Glanduad Fach.
0:05:23 > 0:05:26- It's in Felindre Farchog - in Pembrokeshire.
0:05:27 > 0:05:31- It's the home of Marian Rogers - and her husband Alan.
0:05:31 > 0:05:35- Marian has a collection - of fine pieces of furniture...
0:05:35 > 0:05:37- ..that she herself has made.
0:05:38 > 0:05:42- She lives - in a wonderfully peaceful location!
0:05:57 > 0:05:59- Hello, there!
0:05:59 > 0:06:00- Hello, Dai.
0:06:00 > 0:06:01- Hello, Dai.- - You got back safely.
0:06:01 > 0:06:04- Did you make the bench - and the table outside?
0:06:05 > 0:06:06- Yes.
0:06:06 > 0:06:08- Yes.- - Won't they rot outside?
0:06:08 > 0:06:11- No, they can withstand the weather.
0:06:11 > 0:06:13- The wood is well oiled.
0:06:13 > 0:06:15- The wood is well oiled.- - This is a beautiful place.
0:06:15 > 0:06:16- You live in an ideal place.
0:06:16 > 0:06:18- You live in an ideal place.- - Yes, it's a beautiful place.
0:06:18 > 0:06:20- I've travelled past many times...
0:06:20 > 0:06:24- ..unaware that a female - cabinet maker lived here.
0:06:25 > 0:06:25- Did you make this dresser?
0:06:25 > 0:06:27- Did you make this dresser?- - Yes, I made the dresser.
0:06:27 > 0:06:32- I needed a dresser, but there was - no room in the old kitchen.
0:06:32 > 0:06:37- So I told Alan, "If we have - a new kitchen, I'll make a dresser."
0:06:37 > 0:06:39- Tell me more about the dresser.
0:06:40 > 0:06:42- What wood did you use?
0:06:42 > 0:06:45- It's maple wood.
0:06:45 > 0:06:48- A young lad from Beulah - made the kitchen.
0:06:49 > 0:06:52- He used these decorations - in his work...
0:06:52 > 0:06:56- ..so I decided to use the same - pattern as a finishing touch...
0:06:56 > 0:06:59- ..at the top of the dresser.
0:07:00 > 0:07:02- How long did it take you to make?
0:07:03 > 0:07:05- Oh, it must have taken about a year.
0:07:05 > 0:07:09- I finished and brought - the lower part home first.
0:07:09 > 0:07:13- Then I made the top part - and brought it home and attached it.
0:07:14 > 0:07:16- I did that after bringing it home.
0:07:17 > 0:07:20- The drawers have dovetails, - as they call them.
0:07:21 > 0:07:22- Those were the most difficult part.
0:07:22 > 0:07:23- Those were the most difficult part.- - How many are there?
0:07:23 > 0:07:25- There must be lots.
0:07:25 > 0:07:27- There must be lots.- - Six of them.
0:07:27 > 0:07:28- Is it easy to work with maple?
0:07:28 > 0:07:30- Is it easy to work with maple?- - No. It's similar to oak.
0:07:30 > 0:07:32- It's a hardwood.
0:07:32 > 0:07:35- Mahogany is a softer wood.
0:07:35 > 0:07:37- But it marks easily.
0:07:37 > 0:07:40- If you make mistakes, - the marks are worse.
0:07:41 > 0:07:45- With maple, you can rub marks away - to make the surface smooth.
0:07:46 > 0:07:50- I suppose you must use wood - that can tolerate a lot of heat...
0:07:51 > 0:07:55- ..so that the joints - don't work loose over time.
0:07:56 > 0:07:57- You have to be careful.
0:07:57 > 0:08:00- Maple is worse than oak - in that respect.
0:08:01 > 0:08:05- If you use a piece of wood - to hold the top together...
0:08:05 > 0:08:09- ..to affix three pieces of wood, - for example...
0:08:09 > 0:08:13- ..I had to work - on those three pieces together...
0:08:13 > 0:08:15- ..to stop them from warping.
0:08:15 > 0:08:18- It's worse than oak for warping.
0:08:18 > 0:08:20- Well, it's an excellent piece.
0:08:20 > 0:08:22- I'm quite proud of it, I must say.
0:08:23 > 0:08:25- I'm sure there are more. Excellent!
0:08:25 > 0:08:29- Right, Dai. Come in here - - there are more pieces in here.
0:08:31 > 0:08:31- What about this?
0:08:31 > 0:08:33- What about this?- - This is a table.
0:08:33 > 0:08:36- It's called a console table.
0:08:37 > 0:08:38- It's made from oak.
0:08:38 > 0:08:40- It's made from oak.- - It's sturdy, isn't it.
0:08:41 > 0:08:42- A corner cupboard.
0:08:43 > 0:08:46- Well, half a corner cupboard. - I didn't make a top for it.
0:08:47 > 0:08:48- It's nice as it is.
0:08:48 > 0:08:50- It fits in the corner.
0:08:50 > 0:08:52- Very good.
0:08:52 > 0:08:54- Come in here, Dai.
0:08:54 > 0:08:56- Here's a wooden horse.
0:08:56 > 0:08:58- This was the first item I made.
0:08:58 > 0:09:01- This was your first piece, was it?
0:09:01 > 0:09:03- It took me about a year.
0:09:03 > 0:09:08- Making this horse gave me more - pleasure than making anything else.
0:09:08 > 0:09:11- Is that because you made it - for the grandchildren?
0:09:12 > 0:09:14- I think that may be the reason.
0:09:14 > 0:09:17- It makes me emotional, - "Oh, the poor dab!"
0:09:17 > 0:09:21- I can imagine your grandchildren - saying, "Mam-gu made this!"
0:09:21 > 0:09:23- Yes, that's right!
0:09:23 > 0:09:26- There's a time capsule - inside the horse.
0:09:27 > 0:09:30- We put items - relating to the family's history...
0:09:30 > 0:09:32- ..in the time capsule.
0:09:32 > 0:09:36- Items such as family photos - and pre-decimal coins.
0:09:36 > 0:09:38- Alan has plenty to spare!
0:09:39 > 0:09:40- The horse has a big belly!
0:09:40 > 0:09:42- The horse has a big belly!- - They're inside its belly!
0:09:43 > 0:09:48- And a copy of that week's Tivyside - Advertiser and a Western Mail.
0:09:48 > 0:09:52- So if anyone takes it apart, - it'll be interesting.
0:09:53 > 0:09:55- This horse has such character.
0:09:55 > 0:09:59- It's hard to believe - that it's the first item you made.
0:09:59 > 0:10:02- Yes. And it can take - the weight of an adult.
0:10:02 > 0:10:06- It's strong enough - to carry an adult.
0:10:07 > 0:10:10- There's a lovely piece of furniture - behind me.
0:10:11 > 0:10:13- It's a hi-fi unit.
0:10:14 > 0:10:16- Is it made from a different wood?
0:10:16 > 0:10:17- Is it made from a different wood?- - Yes, it's mahogany.
0:10:18 > 0:10:21- There are other nice pieces - in this room too.
0:10:21 > 0:10:25- I made every single piece - in this room.
0:10:26 > 0:10:30- The television stand - is made of mahogany.
0:10:30 > 0:10:33- The other pieces are made of oak...
0:10:33 > 0:10:37- ..apart from the coffee table, - which is also mahogany.
0:10:37 > 0:10:39- Let me show you one more room.
0:10:40 > 0:10:40- The gaffer is home!
0:10:40 > 0:10:42- The gaffer is home!- - Hello, Dai. How are you?
0:10:42 > 0:10:43- Very well.
0:10:44 > 0:10:46- Aren't you working today?
0:10:46 > 0:10:49- I hope the others - are doing some work.
0:10:49 > 0:10:51- It's amazing, what your wife can do.
0:10:51 > 0:10:53- It's amazing, what your wife can do.- - She's clever, isn't she.
0:10:53 > 0:10:54- Do you knit or sew?
0:10:54 > 0:10:56- Do you knit or sew?- - I'm good at sewing.
0:10:56 > 0:11:00- After selling machinery all day, - it makes a change.
0:11:01 > 0:11:06- It's rare to see - so many home-made pieces.
0:11:06 > 0:11:08- I'm proud of what she's done.
0:11:08 > 0:11:10- The dresser is amazing.
0:11:10 > 0:11:15- She made two other dressers, for our - daughters in Llanelli and Eglwyswrw.
0:11:16 > 0:11:18- They're very similar.
0:11:18 > 0:11:20- Tell me about these pieces.
0:11:20 > 0:11:23- This is a computer desk.
0:11:23 > 0:11:25- The door opens like this.
0:11:25 > 0:11:27- Can he use a computer?
0:11:27 > 0:11:29- Yes, he can!
0:11:29 > 0:11:31- I haven't used it today, though.
0:11:33 > 0:11:35- Well done!
0:11:35 > 0:11:38- That's mahogany, - like the other pieces.
0:11:38 > 0:11:41- There's a sideboard over there...
0:11:41 > 0:11:45- ..and a table - with room to store wine bottles.
0:11:46 > 0:11:48- It's a large console table.
0:11:49 > 0:11:51- Has Marian mentioned...
0:11:52 > 0:11:56- ..who carried all this furniture - home from the workshop?
0:11:56 > 0:11:59- No, but she said - that was the easiest task!
0:11:59 > 0:12:04- Really? I transported them all - in an Ifor Williams trailer!
0:12:04 > 0:12:06- We have to use a trailer.
0:12:06 > 0:12:10- She spends just one day a week - at the workshop...
0:12:10 > 0:12:14- ..yet she has managed to produce - all this furniture.
0:12:14 > 0:12:16- How long have you been doing this?
0:12:16 > 0:12:17- How long have you been doing this?- - Twelve years.
0:12:17 > 0:12:20- I do my carpentry work - every Tuesday.
0:12:21 > 0:12:23- I don't do anything else.
0:12:23 > 0:12:27- If you had your own workshop, - would you be there every day?
0:12:27 > 0:12:29- Yes, I would.
0:12:30 > 0:12:34- I'd be there - whenever I had something to do.
0:12:35 > 0:12:39- Extraordinary, fascinating - and a pleasure to see.
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0:12:51 > 0:12:54- This is the most enjoyable work - I've done for ages...
0:12:55 > 0:12:58- ..looking at furniture - made by these women.
0:12:58 > 0:12:59- They've worked hard.
0:13:00 > 0:13:04- Betty Howells lives here - in Crundale in Pembrokeshire.
0:13:04 > 0:13:07- Let's see if she's at home. Hello!
0:13:07 > 0:13:08- Hello!
0:13:08 > 0:13:09- Hello!- - How are you?
0:13:10 > 0:13:12- Fine, thank you.
0:13:12 > 0:13:12- Come inside.
0:13:12 > 0:13:14- Come inside.- - There's furniture everywhere.
0:13:15 > 0:13:18- That's a nice table. - Did you make it?
0:13:18 > 0:13:19- Yes.
0:13:19 > 0:13:21- Yes.- - It's a big table.
0:13:21 > 0:13:23- Yes. I wanted a large table.
0:13:23 > 0:13:28- It's nice that the whole family - can sit around the table for a meal.
0:13:28 > 0:13:31- On a fine day, - it's nice to go outside...
0:13:32 > 0:13:35- ..even if it's only - for a cup of tea.
0:13:35 > 0:13:38- It's awkward - if the table isn't big enough.
0:13:38 > 0:13:40- Did you design the table?
0:13:40 > 0:13:42- Did you design the table?- - We designed it together.
0:13:42 > 0:13:44- Nick is good.
0:13:44 > 0:13:47- How long have you been - taking these classes?
0:13:47 > 0:13:49- Two years to last week.
0:13:49 > 0:13:50- Really?
0:13:51 > 0:13:53- You've done so much work already.
0:13:53 > 0:13:56- Is it something - you were determined to learn?
0:13:57 > 0:13:59- No, it happened by accident.
0:13:59 > 0:14:03- I wanted a table like that one, - with a chess board on the top.
0:14:03 > 0:14:06- I asked Nick - if he'd make one for me...
0:14:06 > 0:14:11- ..and he said, "No, I won't. - If you want it, make it yourself."
0:14:11 > 0:14:14- I said, "I can't," - but he told me to try it.
0:14:15 > 0:14:18- He promised me I could do it - - and I did.
0:14:18 > 0:14:19- It's a lovely piece.
0:14:20 > 0:14:23- A lot of your work involves a lathe.
0:14:24 > 0:14:27- Everything I've made so far, - apart from the table...
0:14:28 > 0:14:30- ..has been made using a lathe.
0:14:30 > 0:14:31- These have been turned.
0:14:31 > 0:14:34- These have been turned.- - That kind of work isn't easy.
0:14:35 > 0:14:38- No. The items must be held - in a certain way.
0:14:38 > 0:14:42- If you don't use the correct - technique, the blade jerks back.
0:14:43 > 0:14:46- I'm particularly impressed with this.
0:14:46 > 0:14:48- It's well made.
0:14:48 > 0:14:50- Nick wasn't sure what I wanted.
0:14:50 > 0:14:54- I tried to explain to him - and we drew a sketch together...
0:14:55 > 0:14:57- ..and here's the finished product.
0:14:57 > 0:15:01- This was plain, - but I said I didn't want it plain...
0:15:01 > 0:15:03- ..so we decorated it like this.
0:15:03 > 0:15:06- Nick's sister did the upholstery.
0:15:06 > 0:15:09- How long did it take you?
0:15:09 > 0:15:11- You went to your first lesson...
0:15:11 > 0:15:13- Did it last about an hour?
0:15:14 > 0:15:16- I attended for half a day - at the start.
0:15:16 > 0:15:21- But I felt, by the time I got there - and started to make something...
0:15:21 > 0:15:25- ..it was time to finish and someone - else would take my place.
0:15:25 > 0:15:29- After a term, during which - I was making that table...
0:15:29 > 0:15:34- ..I felt it was too slow and I asked - Nick if I could go full-time.
0:15:35 > 0:15:38- I finished the table - after three full days.
0:15:38 > 0:15:41- It took me 17 days in all - to make that table.
0:15:41 > 0:15:45- And I had never done - any carpentry before.
0:15:45 > 0:15:51- You must feel tremendous pride - when looking around your home.
0:15:51 > 0:15:55- Well, sometimes you think, - "Did I really make that?"
0:15:55 > 0:15:58- Yes, it does give me pleasure.
0:15:58 > 0:16:00- My favourite item, maybe, is this.
0:16:00 > 0:16:03- I had to cut all this out.
0:16:03 > 0:16:08- I had to draw the picture, - then transfer it on to the wood...
0:16:09 > 0:16:11- ..and then I had to cut it all out.
0:16:11 > 0:16:13- It's all a single piece.
0:16:13 > 0:16:14- It's all a single piece.- - It's amazing.
0:16:15 > 0:16:17- I enjoy seeing what you've done.
0:16:17 > 0:16:20- These items - have a certain character.
0:16:28 > 0:16:31- After a hard day in the workshop...
0:16:31 > 0:16:36- ..Margaret Rhys and Marian Rogers - occasionally find time to relax.
0:16:37 > 0:16:41- What could be better - than a golf course beside the sea?
0:16:41 > 0:16:44- # Merch Y Mynydd # - Lowri Evans
0:16:44 > 0:16:47- # A maid of the mountain, - that's who I am
0:16:53 > 0:16:56- # A maid of the mountain #
0:16:56 > 0:16:57- Ooh!
0:17:03 > 0:17:05- Did you film that?!
0:17:07 > 0:17:10- If that's not on film, - I'll be furious!
0:17:20 > 0:17:22- Is this where it's all happening?
0:17:22 > 0:17:25- I could hear you laughing - from down below!
0:17:26 > 0:17:26- There's a strong wind.
0:17:26 > 0:17:28- There's a strong wind.- - Yes. We're up high.
0:17:28 > 0:17:31- How many times a week - do you play golf?
0:17:31 > 0:17:33- Twice, if we can.
0:17:33 > 0:17:35- I don't play so often.
0:17:35 > 0:17:37- You play more regularly.
0:17:37 > 0:17:39- Wednesdays and Fridays, usually.
0:17:39 > 0:17:43- I saw Margaret - walking on the skyline...
0:17:43 > 0:17:46- ..and she looked - like a proper golfer!
0:17:46 > 0:17:48- I'm sure!
0:17:48 > 0:17:50- Yes, indeed!
0:17:51 > 0:17:54- You've been playing golf for years, - haven't you?
0:17:55 > 0:17:59- We've been playing for years, - but we haven't made much progress!
0:17:59 > 0:18:02- Nine women started playing - at the same time.
0:18:02 > 0:18:04- Nine Welsh speakers.
0:18:05 > 0:18:09- The golf club here in Newport - is convenient for you.
0:18:09 > 0:18:11- And look at the view!
0:18:11 > 0:18:12- It's magnificent.
0:18:12 > 0:18:14- It's magnificent.- - Who'd want to go anywhere else?
0:18:15 > 0:18:17- You have the sea and the hills.
0:18:18 > 0:18:19- And the wind!
0:18:21 > 0:18:25- Marian, don't you travel around, - playing golf? Come on!
0:18:26 > 0:18:28- You travel around.
0:18:28 > 0:18:29- I'm going tomorrow.
0:18:29 > 0:18:30- I'm going tomorrow.- - Alan told me.
0:18:30 > 0:18:33- I'm going away tomorrow - for three days.
0:18:33 > 0:18:36- To Caerphilly. - Bryn Meadows in Caerphilly.
0:18:37 > 0:18:40- I'm going with other women. - It's an all-female group.
0:18:41 > 0:18:43- I've played golf once or twice.
0:18:43 > 0:18:46- It's something I'd like to do.
0:18:46 > 0:18:48- It keeps you fit.
0:18:48 > 0:18:51- The views are magnificent.
0:18:51 > 0:18:55- All golf courses have fine views, - though not as fine as these.
0:18:55 > 0:18:59- These buggies - mean you don't have to walk so much.
0:19:00 > 0:19:02- We walk, we don't use a buggy.
0:19:02 > 0:19:04- Not yet.
0:19:04 > 0:19:07- Perhaps I won't use a buggy - when I play golf.
0:19:20 > 0:19:23- # In my mother's little border
0:19:23 > 0:19:25- # The prettiest flowers grew #
0:19:25 > 0:19:29- This is the home of Margaret Rhys - and her husband Morys.
0:19:30 > 0:19:32- Y Sgubor is in Pembrokeshire.
0:19:32 > 0:19:34- These flowers are lovely.
0:19:34 > 0:19:36- Let's go and see the furniture.
0:19:42 > 0:19:43- Hello, hello!
0:19:43 > 0:19:44- Hello, hello!- - Hello!
0:19:44 > 0:19:46- Blimey!
0:19:49 > 0:19:52- Margaret, - there's furniture everywhere!
0:19:52 > 0:19:53- Yes.
0:19:54 > 0:19:57- And outside in the back garden too.
0:19:57 > 0:20:03- It's hard to believe you were able - to handle those large chairs.
0:20:04 > 0:20:05- They're heavy.
0:20:05 > 0:20:06- They're heavy.- - Those are very heavy.
0:20:07 > 0:20:09- The wind will never blow them over.
0:20:10 > 0:20:12- Where do you get your ideas?
0:20:12 > 0:20:14- I was discussing this with Marian.
0:20:15 > 0:20:17- You have a young grandchild.
0:20:17 > 0:20:22- Is that the reason - why you're driven to do this?
0:20:22 > 0:20:23- I think so.
0:20:24 > 0:20:28- The item that's given me the - greatest pleasure over the years...
0:20:28 > 0:20:31- ..is this box for Gruffudd, - my grandson.
0:20:32 > 0:20:35- He can use that to play draughts.
0:20:35 > 0:20:36- That's right.
0:20:37 > 0:20:38- What's the purpose of the box?
0:20:38 > 0:20:39- What's the purpose of the box?- - It's a toy box.
0:20:40 > 0:20:41- It's a toy box.
0:20:41 > 0:20:44- The lid lifts off like this.
0:20:45 > 0:20:48- I thought it looked a bit boring, - just a box.
0:20:49 > 0:20:52- But you can remove - the sides as well.
0:20:52 > 0:20:57- I've carved his name on here - - Gruffudd.
0:20:57 > 0:20:58- Well done!
0:20:59 > 0:21:00- In case he forgot!
0:21:00 > 0:21:02- It's a very large box.
0:21:02 > 0:21:04- Yes.
0:21:04 > 0:21:05- The back comes off too.
0:21:06 > 0:21:07- Your next problem...
0:21:07 > 0:21:08- Your next problem...- - It's heavy.
0:21:09 > 0:21:12- Your next problem - is to fill it with toys.
0:21:12 > 0:21:16- I thought it would be nice for him - to be able to get in and out of it.
0:21:16 > 0:21:20- He can pretend it's a farm, - or sit in it, or whatever.
0:21:20 > 0:21:22- I'm very proud of this.
0:21:22 > 0:21:24- It's such a clever idea.
0:21:24 > 0:21:28- And look at the skilled work - around the corners.
0:21:28 > 0:21:30- Don't look too closely!
0:21:30 > 0:21:31- It's superb.
0:21:32 > 0:21:34- It was hard work, I must admit.
0:21:34 > 0:21:36- A lot of work.
0:21:37 > 0:21:37- What's that behind you?
0:21:37 > 0:21:40- What's that behind you?- - No, this was a wedding present.
0:21:40 > 0:21:41- From someone else.
0:21:41 > 0:21:45- I must say, your work - doesn't look out of place.
0:21:45 > 0:21:47- Fair play.
0:21:47 > 0:21:52- I think that cupboard may have - sparked my interest in carpentry.
0:21:52 > 0:21:57- A member of the chapel made this - when Morys and I got married.
0:21:57 > 0:21:58- I love it.
0:21:58 > 0:22:02- I love its colour - and the grain of the wood.
0:22:02 > 0:22:05- It was a very special gift - to receive.
0:22:05 > 0:22:06- Yes.
0:22:07 > 0:22:13- If it inspired Margaret Rhys to make - furniture, it's done a good job.
0:22:14 > 0:22:16- I'm behind you.
0:22:17 > 0:22:19- This is the first piece I made.
0:22:19 > 0:22:21- A piano stool.
0:22:21 > 0:22:24- I didn't have a piano stool - and I needed one.
0:22:24 > 0:22:29- I hadn't seen one I wanted to buy, - so that was the first thing I made.
0:22:29 > 0:22:31- I'm proud of it.
0:22:31 > 0:22:35- Next door to the place - where the classes are held...
0:22:35 > 0:22:38- ..my sister does upholstery.
0:22:38 > 0:22:40- She helped me with this.
0:22:40 > 0:22:41- So you did all of it.
0:22:41 > 0:22:43- So you did all of it.- - Yes. She just showed me the way.
0:22:44 > 0:22:45- What a good start.
0:22:45 > 0:22:50- I'm not surprised that you chose to - make something to go with the piano.
0:22:51 > 0:22:53- It was something I needed.
0:22:54 > 0:22:56- Oh, here we are!
0:22:58 > 0:22:59- A remarkable room!
0:22:59 > 0:23:01- Well, I don't know.
0:23:03 > 0:23:04- There's this.
0:23:04 > 0:23:07- I have to admit, - I nearly gave up on this.
0:23:09 > 0:23:10- The drawers.
0:23:11 > 0:23:14- I spent three whole days - fitting this drawer alone.
0:23:15 > 0:23:17- But they're such useful pieces.
0:23:17 > 0:23:23- All the items you women have made - are pieces in daily use.
0:23:23 > 0:23:24- And there's this.
0:23:25 > 0:23:26- This is handy.
0:23:26 > 0:23:30- For about two months, - when I slept in this room...
0:23:30 > 0:23:33- ..I kept a mallet - by the side of the bed...
0:23:34 > 0:23:35- ..because I couldn't open...
0:23:35 > 0:23:36- ..because I couldn't open...- - Because of rats?
0:23:36 > 0:23:40- No! Because I couldn't - open or close any of the drawers!
0:23:42 > 0:23:46- I wonder how Morys felt - about you and your mallet!
0:23:46 > 0:23:49- He had to behave himself!
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