Wmffre Davies

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0:00:14 > 0:00:18- I've travelled a little further - than usual today.

0:00:18 > 0:00:24- I've come to Herefordshire, - and this is the city of Hereford.

0:00:24 > 0:00:29- With me is a Welsh-speaking Cardi - who has lived here for many years.

0:00:29 > 0:00:30- Wmffre, what's your surname?

0:00:30 > 0:00:32- Wmffre, what's your surname?- - I'm Dafydd Wmffre Williams Davies.

0:00:33 > 0:00:34- What a long name!

0:00:34 > 0:00:35- How long have you lived here?

0:00:35 > 0:00:39- How long have you lived here?- - Since 24 September 1979.

0:00:39 > 0:00:42- There - he's giving us - all the details already!

0:00:42 > 0:00:44- We'll soon learn more.

0:00:45 > 0:00:46- Very good.

0:00:47 > 0:00:49- It was a Sunday school trip...

0:00:49 > 0:00:53- ..from Bwlch y Fadfa chapel, - Talgarreg, near Llandysul...

0:00:53 > 0:00:55- ..at the end of the '70s...

0:00:55 > 0:00:59- ..that brought Wmffre Davies - to Hereford, originally.

0:01:00 > 0:01:05- A few years later, he returned, to - work at the Wyevale Garden Centre.

0:01:05 > 0:01:07- Today, he's a senior gardener.

0:01:09 > 0:01:12- It's early December.

0:01:12 > 0:01:16- Summer is Wmffre's busiest period.

0:01:19 > 0:01:22- What sparked this interest?

0:01:23 > 0:01:25- You were raised on a farm.

0:01:25 > 0:01:29- Agriculture and horticulture - have their parallels.

0:01:29 > 0:01:31- Did gardening interest you as a boy?

0:01:32 > 0:01:33- We were three brothers.

0:01:33 > 0:01:36- With our father, - early each summer...

0:01:37 > 0:01:40- ..we'd spend six weeks - sowing swedes.

0:01:40 > 0:01:43- My brother, Elwyn, - was good with tractors.

0:01:44 > 0:01:45- I wasn't so good.

0:01:45 > 0:01:47- I was very impatient.

0:01:48 > 0:01:51- I'd hit my brother, - then my father would hit me...

0:01:52 > 0:01:55- ..and send me all alone - into the garden.

0:01:57 > 0:02:00- You're starting to make me - feel nervous!

0:02:00 > 0:02:02- No, no!

0:02:02 > 0:02:03- That's how it began.

0:02:05 > 0:02:10- I can remember the pea varieties - we grew in 1965...

0:02:10 > 0:02:13- ..Mentor, Victoria, Lincoln.

0:02:13 > 0:02:18- My father grew swedes - all the year round...

0:02:18 > 0:02:22- ..and carrots - - James Scarlet Intermediate.

0:02:22 > 0:02:24- He grew Musselburgh leeks.

0:02:24 > 0:02:27- He always grew the same varieties.

0:02:27 > 0:02:33- With your store of knowledge, are - you the one who plans everything?

0:02:33 > 0:02:37- Or are there rules telling you - to do this and do that?

0:02:38 > 0:02:41- Do you rely on the knowledge - in your head?

0:02:41 > 0:02:43- Yes.

0:02:43 > 0:02:45- It comes from the heart.

0:02:45 > 0:02:48- How much of your work - involves organic principles?

0:02:49 > 0:02:51- Lots of farmers have gone organic.

0:02:52 > 0:02:54- They think it's the best thing ever.

0:02:54 > 0:02:58- Does horticulture - have organic elements?

0:02:58 > 0:03:01- Well, you need - a broad range of knowledge.

0:03:01 > 0:03:05- Organic farming used to be - the only available method.

0:03:06 > 0:03:11- I believe they were closer to the - earth and the seasons of the year.

0:03:11 > 0:03:15- How much land - does this company have?

0:03:15 > 0:03:17- About 400 acres.

0:03:17 > 0:03:21- Work takes place - all the year round, does it?

0:03:21 > 0:03:21- Yes.

0:03:21 > 0:03:24- Yes.- - It's seasonal work, of course.

0:03:24 > 0:03:27- Planting in fields - and growing trees...

0:03:27 > 0:03:31- ..is the responsibility - of the field department.

0:03:33 > 0:03:37- Plants can only be lifted - between November and late March.

0:03:39 > 0:03:41- They're bare-rooted.

0:03:41 > 0:03:42- But over there...

0:03:43 > 0:03:44- You're going to Beirut?!

0:03:45 > 0:03:48- No, bare-rooted, - with nothing around the roots!

0:03:48 > 0:03:50- Nothing to do with Beirut!

0:03:50 > 0:03:54- Potted plants - can be sold throughout the year.

0:03:57 > 0:04:01- This garden centre is one - of the largest in the country,

0:04:01 > 0:04:03- It's a very busy place.

0:04:03 > 0:04:05- In some of the sheds...

0:04:05 > 0:04:08- ..you'll find - mechanical planting equipment.

0:04:08 > 0:04:12- Wmffre himself - has worked on these machines.

0:04:16 > 0:04:22- The machines can place flowering - plants or trees in pots, can they?

0:04:22 > 0:04:24- Yes.

0:04:24 > 0:04:29- You place the plant in a pot and - the machine fills it with soil.

0:04:30 > 0:04:32- Then it's moved on to the conveyor.

0:04:33 > 0:04:38- At the other end, someone takes the - plants, puts them on a trailer...

0:04:39 > 0:04:40- ..and sets them out in beds.

0:04:41 > 0:04:44- People work 12 hours a day, - six days a week.

0:04:44 > 0:04:45- Lots of people work here.

0:04:45 > 0:04:47- Lots of people work here.- - Yes, about 200 people.

0:04:47 > 0:04:50- I'm amazed to see - the old Massey tractors.

0:04:50 > 0:04:52- How many do you have?

0:04:52 > 0:04:54- How many do you have?- - About 30.

0:04:54 > 0:04:55- About 30 to 40.

0:04:56 > 0:04:58- And they're used to transport stuff.

0:04:59 > 0:05:03- If you count the trailers in the - potting shed and in dispatch...

0:05:04 > 0:05:07- ..there must be - about 70 trailers in use.

0:05:07 > 0:05:09- You've worked in this area.

0:05:09 > 0:05:10- You've worked in this area.- - Yes, for 10 years.

0:05:11 > 0:05:12- Well, I worked outside.

0:05:13 > 0:05:16- I looked after the plants - and watered them...

0:05:18 > 0:05:22- ..and got them ready for purchase - in the garden centre.

0:05:22 > 0:05:25- And you did that for 10 years?

0:05:26 > 0:05:30- Yes, for 10 years, up until 1990, - when I got the DCM.

0:05:30 > 0:05:32- I was a bit cheeky, you see.

0:05:32 > 0:05:34- DCM - is that a degree?

0:05:34 > 0:05:37- No - Don't Come Back Monday!

0:05:39 > 0:05:43- So after that, I got a job - in the garden centre.

0:05:43 > 0:05:47- Instead of growing plants - and getting them ready...

0:05:47 > 0:05:49- ..I sold them to Joe Public.

0:05:49 > 0:05:53- I also gave people information - about planting.

0:05:53 > 0:05:56- But during my time - at the garden centre nursery...

0:05:57 > 0:05:59- ..I went to Chelsea twice.

0:05:59 > 0:06:04- I worked on the stand, answering - questions and handing out leaflets.

0:06:04 > 0:06:06- Did you have to wear a tie?

0:06:06 > 0:06:08- You're wearing a tie today.

0:06:08 > 0:06:11- I had to wear a tie - in the garden centre.

0:06:12 > 0:06:16- I don't wear a tie in summer, - but I wear one, most of the time.

0:06:16 > 0:06:20- You have to look the part - - and you certainly do!

0:06:20 > 0:06:22- I need a new apron.

0:06:22 > 0:06:25- It reminds me of a kangaroo!

0:06:25 > 0:06:27- Shall we move on?

0:06:31 > 0:06:37- Each year, over two million plants - are grown at the garden centre...

0:06:37 > 0:06:39- ..in Hereford.

0:06:39 > 0:06:44- Wmffre has extensive experience - of working in almost all areas.

0:06:48 > 0:06:50- There's a lot of work going on.

0:06:50 > 0:06:52- There are two lines...

0:06:52 > 0:06:55- ..with 4,000 plants - coming down each line every day.

0:06:56 > 0:06:59- Are these flowers - being taken outside?

0:06:59 > 0:07:01- Rotted leaves are removed...

0:07:02 > 0:07:04- ..and they're labelled.

0:07:04 > 0:07:08- At the end of the line, - they're placed on a trolley.

0:07:08 > 0:07:13- The women have received training - for the job.

0:07:13 > 0:07:15- They know what to remove.

0:07:15 > 0:07:20- When the plant arrives at the - garden centre, it must be perfect.

0:07:21 > 0:07:23- When will they be delivered?

0:07:23 > 0:07:26- They'll reach the garden centre - in a day or two.

0:07:26 > 0:07:30- What if one of the plants - is substandard?

0:07:31 > 0:07:33- Is it given a second chance?

0:07:33 > 0:07:34- No, it's removed.

0:07:35 > 0:07:38- Do these women have families?

0:07:38 > 0:07:40- Yes.

0:07:40 > 0:07:42- Hereford is a large place.

0:07:42 > 0:07:45- I shouldn't think - staffing is a problem.

0:07:45 > 0:07:50- They come from different countries, - such as Poland, Bulgaria.

0:07:50 > 0:07:52- Ceredigion?!

0:07:53 > 0:07:57- It's a tough job, - from early morning until evening.

0:07:57 > 0:08:02- They spend eight hours - checking the same type of plant...

0:08:02 > 0:08:06- ..and removing rotted leaves - or fixing labels.

0:08:06 > 0:08:08- It's terribly monotonous.

0:08:08 > 0:08:10- How long have you worked here?

0:08:11 > 0:08:12- Thirty-five years.

0:08:12 > 0:08:17- Did you choose to move to Hereford - for any particular reason?

0:08:17 > 0:08:22- I came to do a year's - work experience in horticulture...

0:08:22 > 0:08:25- ..then they offered me - a better job...

0:08:26 > 0:08:28- ..after I'd been here for a year.

0:08:28 > 0:08:30- I was just a student.

0:08:30 > 0:08:34- The job involved watering - and looking after plants.

0:08:35 > 0:08:38- "Here's the pumphouse, - here's the lance...

0:08:38 > 0:08:40- "..get on with it."

0:08:41 > 0:08:47- Of course, watering plants - is as important today...

0:08:47 > 0:08:52- ..as it was, years ago, when Wmffre - started working at the centre.

0:08:52 > 0:08:53- There we go.

0:08:54 > 0:08:58- This has already taken up - a lot of water.

0:08:58 > 0:09:01- It needs cutting back, - in my opinion.

0:09:01 > 0:09:04- Do you carry out cutting - and pruning?

0:09:04 > 0:09:08- Well, yes, but I'll ask someone - to bring a hedge trimmer.

0:09:08 > 0:09:11- It's demanding too much water.

0:09:11 > 0:09:13- It drinks more than I do!

0:09:16 > 0:09:21- As a matter of curiosity, - do horticulturalists drink beer?

0:09:21 > 0:09:23- Beer, or cider in summer.

0:09:23 > 0:09:26- It's good for quenching your thirst.

0:09:26 > 0:09:29- We drank cider - at home on the farm, too.

0:09:29 > 0:09:34- My father would give me money - to buy a bottle of Woodpecker...

0:09:34 > 0:09:35- ..in Tafarn Bach.

0:09:35 > 0:09:39- When you took the flagon back, - they'd give you sixpence.

0:09:40 > 0:09:42- Yes, for the empty flagon.

0:09:44 > 0:09:47- They made their own cider - in this area.

0:09:48 > 0:09:51- It's always been a tradition - in Herefordshire.

0:09:51 > 0:09:53- Every farm made cider.

0:09:54 > 0:09:57- As you ramble - around Herefordshire...

0:09:57 > 0:10:00- ..you'll see lots - of cider apple orchards.

0:10:01 > 0:10:05- There are more of them here than - in any other county in Britain.

0:10:05 > 0:10:10- Wmffre has learned a great deal - about cider over the years.

0:10:11 > 0:10:14- These apples - - are they cider apples?

0:10:15 > 0:10:18- There are two varieties, - Michelin and Dabinett.

0:10:19 > 0:10:25- This operation supplies - eight different cider factories...

0:10:25 > 0:10:27- ..Bulmers, Magners...

0:10:27 > 0:10:29- ..Gaymer.

0:10:29 > 0:10:32- So they're not apples - that you can eat?

0:10:33 > 0:10:36- No, unlike Tom Putt, - which you can cook and eat.

0:10:37 > 0:10:38- It's an old variety.

0:10:39 > 0:10:41- These are more recent varieties.

0:10:41 > 0:10:43- Costs must be quite low.

0:10:43 > 0:10:46- These trees are several years old.

0:10:46 > 0:10:47- These trees are several years old.- - About 20 years old.

0:10:47 > 0:10:50- And they're harvested every year.

0:10:51 > 0:10:55- They're heavily pruned - they're - not allowed to grow unrestricted.

0:10:56 > 0:10:58- How are the apples picked?

0:10:58 > 0:11:01- Are there machines available - for this?

0:11:01 > 0:11:02- They use shakers.

0:11:03 > 0:11:08- The apples are graded - they're - washed and put on a conveyor belt.

0:11:09 > 0:11:11- These days, in Herefordshire...

0:11:12 > 0:11:16- ..growing apples brings more profit - than keeping livestock.

0:11:16 > 0:11:18- The cost of land is so high...

0:11:18 > 0:11:21- ..it's more economic - to produce crops...

0:11:22 > 0:11:25- ..rather than fatten lambs - or cattle.

0:11:26 > 0:11:28- Is it a nice place to live?

0:11:28 > 0:11:30- Are the people nice?

0:11:30 > 0:11:33- Yes, but it takes a while - to get to know them.

0:11:33 > 0:11:35- They study you.

0:11:35 > 0:11:37- Do they?

0:11:38 > 0:11:43- You could say I'm a Welsh-speaking - Herefordian who drinks cider!

0:11:44 > 0:11:45- Indeed!

0:11:46 > 0:11:49- That's a long title - for a man who's not very big!

0:11:49 > 0:11:51- Yes, I'm just a small bloke!

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0:12:02 > 0:12:07- Hereford Rugby Club has always been - an important place for Wmffre.

0:12:07 > 0:12:11- He has been a club coach, - and he remains a loyal supporter.

0:12:12 > 0:12:17- In which year did you become - involved with the rugby club?

0:12:17 > 0:12:19- In 1980 - 20 January.

0:12:20 > 0:12:26- The boys had returned after - playing away in... what's it called?

0:12:26 > 0:12:28- The Arms Park.

0:12:28 > 0:12:33- I met Rory Davies, - Dave Llewellyn and Dave Benjamin.

0:12:34 > 0:12:37- The club was the reason - I stayed in Hereford.

0:12:37 > 0:12:41- It meant a lot to you - because you made friends?

0:12:41 > 0:12:42- Yes, friends for life.

0:12:43 > 0:12:47- Did you play an active part - in any of the club's activities?

0:12:47 > 0:12:51- Yes, I ran a team for over 20 years.

0:12:52 > 0:12:56- I was presented with an award - in 2008...

0:12:57 > 0:13:00- ..by North Mids - Rugby Football Union...

0:13:01 > 0:13:03- ..for service to English rugby.

0:13:04 > 0:13:07- I was presented - with a crystal rugby ball...

0:13:07 > 0:13:09- ..and a tie with a red rose on it.

0:13:10 > 0:13:13- I was a VIP - - a Very Important Person!

0:13:13 > 0:13:15- Well done!

0:13:15 > 0:13:19- You've been involved - in eminent positions...

0:13:19 > 0:13:21- ..and you've received honours.

0:13:21 > 0:13:25- Were you involved with rugby - before you left Ceredigion?

0:13:25 > 0:13:29- I started playing - at Llandysul Grammar School.

0:13:29 > 0:13:34- I played blindside wing-forward - in every game for three seasons.

0:13:34 > 0:13:37- Gareth Edwards - won 55 consecutive caps.

0:13:37 > 0:13:40- I won 57 consecutive caps at school.

0:13:40 > 0:13:43- I was the team captain - in my final year.

0:13:43 > 0:13:47- One year, I remember asking - my father for a pair of boots.

0:13:47 > 0:13:51- He said, "Do you see the bracken - on that hillside?

0:13:51 > 0:13:54- "If you scythe it, - you'll get your boots."

0:13:54 > 0:13:59- I walked to Aberystwyth, bought - my boots, and caught the bus home!

0:14:00 > 0:14:02- They asked me, last Saturday...

0:14:03 > 0:14:06- ..I'd gone to watch - the Luctonians...

0:14:06 > 0:14:09- ..and Fat Sam Humph - said, "Only 12? Game off."

0:14:09 > 0:14:14- I said, "Sorry, not involved - with them," and went to the pub.

0:14:14 > 0:14:17- There, I bumped - into some Hereford lads.

0:14:17 > 0:14:21- Humph said, "Can you come back - and look after us?"

0:14:21 > 0:14:25- I said, "No, I swear - you're - not allowed to swear these days!"

0:14:27 > 0:14:31- Wmffre has links - with Rhiw Lug Farm, Tre-groes...

0:14:31 > 0:14:33- ..where his mother grew up.

0:14:33 > 0:14:37- Every Thursday, a cattle market - takes place in Hereford.

0:14:37 > 0:14:41- Wmffre enjoys going along - to look at the stock.

0:14:41 > 0:14:44- AN AUCTIONEER - SPEAKS IN THE BACKGROUND

0:14:55 > 0:14:57- Lots of fine Hereford cattle.

0:14:58 > 0:14:59- Steers.

0:14:59 > 0:15:00- Steers.- - I like their colour.

0:15:00 > 0:15:03- They've been kept inside.

0:15:03 > 0:15:06- They have far better coats - than Continental breeds.

0:15:07 > 0:15:09- I know you don't eat their coats!

0:15:09 > 0:15:12- But they cope well with any weather.

0:15:12 > 0:15:15- They can withstand - both hot and cold weather.

0:15:15 > 0:15:20- These days, you can buy embryos - with American bloodlines.

0:15:21 > 0:15:24- I've seen them in New Zealand too.

0:15:24 > 0:15:28- With Welsh Blacks, you'll only find - the bloodlines in Wales.

0:15:29 > 0:15:31- What are those flowers?

0:15:31 > 0:15:34- I picked them in the garden.

0:15:34 > 0:15:37- This variety - is called Spirit Of Freedom...

0:15:38 > 0:15:41- ..and this red one - is Tess Of The D'Urbervilles.

0:15:41 > 0:15:43- Tess Of The D'Urbervilles.

0:15:43 > 0:15:45- It can grow in shade.

0:15:46 > 0:15:48- It's freshly cut.

0:15:48 > 0:15:49- I like flowers.

0:15:50 > 0:15:54- Years ago, when you went to a sale, - you had to wear a buttonhole...

0:15:54 > 0:15:56- ..you had to look the part.

0:15:56 > 0:15:59- You didn't just wear one - at a wedding.

0:16:00 > 0:16:02- I'd wear flowers every day!

0:16:02 > 0:16:04- We'd better start planting!

0:16:06 > 0:16:11- Herefordshire agricultural produce - isn't just sold at the mart.

0:16:14 > 0:16:17- Here's the famous Hereford bull.

0:16:18 > 0:16:19- Excellent!

0:16:20 > 0:16:22- It's always been a real market town.

0:16:24 > 0:16:25- It's solid!

0:16:27 > 0:16:29- They used a real bull as a model.

0:16:29 > 0:16:31- I'd prefer a white head.

0:16:32 > 0:16:34- I wouldn't argue with that.

0:16:34 > 0:16:38- In 1840, John Hewer Robinson - stabilised the genetics...

0:16:38 > 0:16:40- ..to produce a white head.

0:16:40 > 0:16:45- Previously, they were mottled - or roan or all sorts of colours.

0:16:45 > 0:16:48- White heads then became - a consistent feature.

0:16:49 > 0:16:53- It's good that the image - celebrates tradition.

0:16:53 > 0:16:55- It's a good bull.

0:16:55 > 0:16:56- Fair play.

0:16:57 > 0:16:59- Let's go and do some shopping.

0:17:09 > 0:17:11- Look, apples.

0:17:12 > 0:17:16- Years ago, a man used to come round - at this time of the year...

0:17:16 > 0:17:19- ..selling boxes - of apples for winter.

0:17:20 > 0:17:21- He would call everyone "Pwdryn".

0:17:21 > 0:17:23- He would call everyone "Pwdryn".- - He called at Gwardafolog too.

0:17:23 > 0:17:26- He sold Bramleys - and Cox's Orange Pippins.

0:17:27 > 0:17:30- This apple, Pitmaston Pineapple...

0:17:30 > 0:17:35- ..grows in Glaslwyn, - near Cwmdyllest - Edwin Cwmdyllest.

0:17:36 > 0:17:39- It originated in Herefordshire.

0:17:39 > 0:17:44- They're delicious apples, but - unfortunately, they're very small.

0:17:45 > 0:17:50- Here's the Red Devil, - a modern apple which has red flesh.

0:17:50 > 0:17:53- I have a tree in my garden - that needs lifting.

0:17:54 > 0:17:57- I have 10 apple varieties - growing in my garden.

0:17:57 > 0:18:01- Do you meet lots of people - buying trees for their orchards?

0:18:01 > 0:18:03- Yes, I do.

0:18:03 > 0:18:06- I sell 31 varieties of apple trees.

0:18:06 > 0:18:07- Shall we move on?

0:18:08 > 0:18:12- I don't think I've ever spent - so much time shopping!

0:18:16 > 0:18:20- Wmffre is very keen - on the French game of petanque.

0:18:21 > 0:18:23- When he has the opportunity...

0:18:23 > 0:18:28- ..he enjoys joining his friends - to play against other local teams.

0:18:28 > 0:18:32- It's a simple game to watch, - but not so easy to play well.

0:18:33 > 0:18:36- Here are three balls - for you to play with, Dai.

0:18:37 > 0:18:39- The point of the game is this.

0:18:39 > 0:18:46- You throw this coloured ball, - called a cochonnet, down the piste.

0:18:46 > 0:18:48- Then you stand inside a circle...

0:18:48 > 0:18:51- ..and try to throw - these ball bearings...

0:18:52 > 0:18:55- ..as close as you can - to the coloured ball.

0:18:56 > 0:18:58- First, you mark out a circle...

0:18:59 > 0:19:00- ..in the gravel...

0:19:01 > 0:19:03- ..using a stick, or something.

0:19:03 > 0:19:05- Then you take the cochonnet...

0:19:07 > 0:19:09- ..and you throw it down the piste.

0:19:17 > 0:19:18- Not enough wheels.

0:19:20 > 0:19:22- Your turn now, Dai.

0:19:22 > 0:19:24- Do I stand in this circle?

0:19:24 > 0:19:27- Yes, and aim the ball - at the cochonnet.

0:19:28 > 0:19:30- Your foot is outside the circle.

0:19:31 > 0:19:33- No throw.

0:19:34 > 0:19:36- Take it slowly.

0:19:37 > 0:19:40- That's out.

0:19:43 > 0:19:45- Good gracious!

0:19:45 > 0:19:46- You're getting closer!

0:19:47 > 0:19:49- There you go, Dai!

0:19:52 > 0:19:53- Good shot!

0:19:55 > 0:19:56- I'm getting there!

0:20:12 > 0:20:15- One point for you, none for me.

0:20:17 > 0:20:20- I think I've played this in France.

0:20:20 > 0:20:23- Well, someone asked me - if I'd like a shot.

0:20:24 > 0:20:27- I saw people playing on the streets - and in villages.

0:20:28 > 0:20:31- You often see frail, elderly people - playing 'plonk'.

0:20:32 > 0:20:37- Just because I've won, there's - no need to call it 'plonk'...

0:20:37 > 0:20:40- ..or talk about - 'frail, elderly people'!

0:20:40 > 0:20:43- It was a good shot - - beginner's luck!

0:20:54 > 0:20:58- Wmffre has a particular - important ambition...

0:20:58 > 0:21:03- ..to honour his family background - in the Pont-sian and Talgarreg area.

0:21:03 > 0:21:09- He intends to plant 14 trees - on land belonging to Esgair Farm...

0:21:09 > 0:21:12- ..to commemorate - members of his family.

0:21:13 > 0:21:18- Close to the farm are the remains of - a Norman motte and bailey castle...

0:21:18 > 0:21:21- ..called Castell Hwmffre...

0:21:21 > 0:21:23- ..from which his name derives.

0:21:24 > 0:21:27- I want to plant the trees - on land close to the castle.

0:21:28 > 0:21:30- My brother has given me permission.

0:21:30 > 0:21:35- I phoned him this week to discuss - my idea of planting trees.

0:21:35 > 0:21:38- Let's take a look at the trees.

0:21:38 > 0:21:41- The names are all familiar to you.

0:21:41 > 0:21:43- This one is for my father.

0:21:43 > 0:21:46- He was buried at Bwlch y Fadfa.

0:21:47 > 0:21:52- His great-great-grandfather - was born in 1760.

0:21:52 > 0:21:56- He died in 1840, - in Yr Hen Gapel in Llwynrhydowen.

0:21:56 > 0:21:58- That was before the eviction.

0:21:59 > 0:22:01- Dyffryn Clettwr, Lydia.

0:22:01 > 0:22:03- Lydia was Arwel's wife.

0:22:03 > 0:22:05- She came from Capel Iwan.

0:22:05 > 0:22:08- They're still farming there.

0:22:08 > 0:22:11- Yes, they farm - at Gwardafolog and Esgair.

0:22:11 > 0:22:14- They work double the hours I work.

0:22:14 > 0:22:17- If I work 45 hours, - they work 90 hours or more.

0:22:17 > 0:22:19- And they earn half the money!

0:22:20 > 0:22:22- They're oak trees, aren't they?

0:22:22 > 0:22:25- Yes, oak trees - that grow tall and slender.

0:22:26 > 0:22:28- Strong roots, too.

0:22:28 > 0:22:30- Will you transport them on a lorry?

0:22:31 > 0:22:34- Yes, though I can take - the smaller ones...

0:22:34 > 0:22:37- ..in a trailer - behind the Land Rover.

0:22:37 > 0:22:39- The bigger ones will need a lorry.

0:22:40 > 0:22:42- I come to the conclusion...

0:22:42 > 0:22:45- ..judging by the way - you speak about these names...

0:22:46 > 0:22:48- ..and the tone of your voice...

0:22:48 > 0:22:52- ..that you feel yourself - to be far from home.

0:22:53 > 0:22:54- Hiraeth, you mean?

0:22:54 > 0:22:57- Yes, I can hear hiraeth - in your voice.

0:22:57 > 0:22:58- Is that right?

0:22:58 > 0:23:00- Is that right?- - Yes.

0:23:00 > 0:23:05- This is an unusual idea, and you've - put a lot of thought into it.

0:23:05 > 0:23:09- These trees will stand for ever, - commemorating that era.

0:23:10 > 0:23:12- They'll be there when I'm gone.

0:23:12 > 0:23:15- They'll keep on growing, - maybe for centuries.

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