Huw Roberts, Llangaffo

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0:00:38 > 0:00:41- I'm visiting Glan Gors Farm, - Llangaffo.

0:00:42 > 0:00:46- It's the home of Huw and Ann Roberts - and their family.

0:00:46 > 0:00:51- It's a family farm, but Huw has his - fingers in a few other pies too...

0:00:51 > 0:00:52- ..as you'll see.

0:01:05 > 0:01:07- SHEEP BLEAT

0:01:10 > 0:01:13- The grass is growing, Huw - - don't they want it?!

0:01:14 > 0:01:17- No, they don't - - but they're quite independent.

0:01:17 > 0:01:19- Dorset is a popular breed.

0:01:19 > 0:01:21- Why did you choose it?

0:01:21 > 0:01:23- We had a plan, originally.

0:01:25 > 0:01:29- Because Dorsets can give birth - three times within two years...

0:01:29 > 0:01:35- ..it meant I could keep fewer sheep - but produce more lambs in a year.

0:01:35 > 0:01:39- But we've adopted a pattern - of lambing just once a year...

0:01:40 > 0:01:42- ..in February and March...

0:01:42 > 0:01:46- ..because, otherwise, - we were lambing all the year round.

0:01:47 > 0:01:51- When winters are hard, - a single lambing period is enough.

0:01:51 > 0:01:53- These sheep belong to my wife.

0:01:55 > 0:01:57- You enjoy showing the sheep.

0:01:57 > 0:02:00- Yes, we compete at a few shows.

0:02:00 > 0:02:05- We used to compete at the - Royal Welsh, but not any more.

0:02:05 > 0:02:09- We compete at the Anglesey Show, - the Caernarfon Show...

0:02:09 > 0:02:12- ..and at other, smaller shows.

0:02:12 > 0:02:17- Is it because you're a member of the - breed society, or for enjoyment?

0:02:18 > 0:02:21- Since we've been breeding - pedigree sheep...

0:02:21 > 0:02:24- ..we've been on trips - with the Welsh club...

0:02:25 > 0:02:28- ..and got to know lots of farmers - from your area.

0:02:28 > 0:02:30- We visit your area every year.

0:02:30 > 0:02:35- This year, I have the honour - of being the Welsh club president.

0:02:35 > 0:02:38- I'll be judging in Llandovery.

0:02:38 > 0:02:40- Well done!

0:02:48 > 0:02:50- Have you always lived here?

0:02:50 > 0:02:52- No, I'm from Dinas Dinlle.

0:02:53 > 0:02:54- Across the strait?

0:02:54 > 0:02:56- Across the strait?- - Yes, across the strait.

0:02:59 > 0:03:03- We've been living here for 34 years, - since 1982.

0:03:04 > 0:03:07- My father had a dairy farm - in Glynllifon...

0:03:08 > 0:03:10- ..but the tenancy came to an end.

0:03:10 > 0:03:14- I went to college in Northampton, - and to Llysfasi...

0:03:15 > 0:03:17- ..and Glynllifon, of course.

0:03:17 > 0:03:20- Not that it did me much good!

0:03:20 > 0:03:22- But I attended those colleges.

0:03:23 > 0:03:28- So much brain - is there any room - for common sense?!

0:03:29 > 0:03:34- After that, I sold animal feed - to farmers for about 10 years...

0:03:34 > 0:03:36- .for BOCM.

0:03:36 > 0:03:40- But I was keen - to get back to farming...

0:03:40 > 0:03:44- ..and I was fortunate enough - to receive this tenancy in 1982.

0:03:46 > 0:03:49- We've been very happy here.

0:03:50 > 0:03:52- We've raised four children.

0:03:53 > 0:03:56- It's a great place, - though it's out of the way.

0:03:56 > 0:04:00- You don't see anyone - unless they want to see you.

0:04:00 > 0:04:04- Very often, - you don't want to see anyone!

0:04:08 > 0:04:10- WHISTLING

0:04:17 > 0:04:22- Huw is happy to be with his cobs - and his Limousin cattle.

0:04:26 > 0:04:29- This bull produces good calves.

0:04:36 > 0:04:38- They're not too big - that's good.

0:04:38 > 0:04:41- Show cattle are often too fat.

0:04:41 > 0:04:45- If they're too fat, I don't - give them any nuts in winter...

0:04:45 > 0:04:48- ..otherwise, - the calves become too big.

0:04:48 > 0:04:49- It's an easy breed to manage.

0:04:49 > 0:04:51- It's an easy breed to manage.- - Yes.

0:04:59 > 0:05:01- I bought this bull in Carlisle.

0:05:02 > 0:05:04- I went all the way to Carlisle...

0:05:05 > 0:05:09- ..and ended up buying a bull - from a farmer from Ro-wen in Conwy!

0:05:10 > 0:05:12- It was the only bull that I fancied.

0:05:12 > 0:05:17- The farmer didn't charge me - for transporting the bull home!

0:05:17 > 0:05:21- He's not much to look at, - but he produces good calves.

0:05:28 > 0:05:30- That stallion moves well.

0:05:31 > 0:05:33- Yes, he can move.

0:05:33 > 0:05:35- There's something about cobs.

0:05:35 > 0:05:40- At the Royal Welsh, it's thrilling - to watch the stallions move.

0:05:40 > 0:05:42- Tell me about the stallion.

0:05:43 > 0:05:47- I bred him myself - - he's called Dinlle Dewin Doeth.

0:05:47 > 0:05:51- Gwenllan Bossy is his sire, - Blaengwen Jay-Lo is his mother.

0:05:53 > 0:05:55- She's a daughter of Welsh Magic...

0:05:56 > 0:05:59- ..which gave rise to the name - Dewin Doeth.

0:06:00 > 0:06:04- One of the mares is a Carneddi, - the other is a Sangrug.

0:06:05 > 0:06:08- I don't show them, - I keep them for pleasure.

0:06:09 > 0:06:13- We used to show Section A ponies - when our daughter lived at home...

0:06:13 > 0:06:15- ..but she got married...

0:06:15 > 0:06:17- ..and I'm too old to run them.

0:06:18 > 0:06:20- These days, we show sheep.

0:06:20 > 0:06:22- You're keen on horses, too.

0:06:22 > 0:06:25- When you get up in the morning...

0:06:25 > 0:06:28- ..it's wonderful to see - a mare and a foal...

0:06:28 > 0:06:31- ..in the field - in front of the house.

0:06:31 > 0:06:33- Yes, it's nice to see them.

0:06:33 > 0:06:37- It would feel strange - if we didn't have any horses...

0:06:37 > 0:06:40- ..but we need to reduce the number.

0:06:40 > 0:06:42- You don't want too many.

0:06:44 > 0:06:49- The children have flown the nest, - but they haven't gone far.

0:06:49 > 0:06:52- They've settled in the local area.

0:06:52 > 0:06:57- Huw and Ann are very happy - to look after their grandsons...

0:06:58 > 0:06:59- ..and granddaughters.

0:07:02 > 0:07:04- I had a wash last night, thanks!

0:07:04 > 0:07:06- You're busy.

0:07:06 > 0:07:08- How's it going?

0:07:08 > 0:07:10- We're doing well, aren't we?

0:07:10 > 0:07:12- Are you preparing for a show?

0:07:12 > 0:07:14- Yes.

0:07:14 > 0:07:15- Well done.

0:07:16 > 0:07:19- Have you started shearing - this sheep?

0:07:19 > 0:07:20- Have you?

0:07:20 > 0:07:23- She doesn't have much wool.

0:07:23 > 0:07:25- Nain.

0:07:25 > 0:07:26- Giving orders to Nain!

0:07:28 > 0:07:30- Will you show her for Nain?

0:07:30 > 0:07:33- Will you show her at the show - for Nain?

0:07:34 > 0:07:38- It's nice to see them - taking an interest at that age.

0:07:38 > 0:07:40- Right.

0:07:42 > 0:07:44- Is that alright?

0:07:48 > 0:07:50- Sheep involve a lot of work.

0:07:50 > 0:07:52- Why do you enjoy it?

0:07:53 > 0:07:56- We make new friends...

0:07:57 > 0:08:00- ..and people see the sheep - at shows...

0:08:01 > 0:08:04- ..and people - who buy smallholdings...

0:08:04 > 0:08:08- ..are keen to buy from us - - shows are a shop window.

0:08:08 > 0:08:10- There's money in it.

0:08:11 > 0:08:13- They're like teddy bears!

0:08:13 > 0:08:15- Yes, lots of people say that!

0:08:15 > 0:08:17- They're like teddy bears!

0:08:18 > 0:08:22- Lots of people ask about them.

0:08:23 > 0:08:26- They're nice and quiet to manage.

0:08:30 > 0:08:34- # Famous people can often be heard

0:08:34 > 0:08:37- # On the radio, singing for you

0:08:37 > 0:08:41- # Did you ever hear, - whatever your age

0:08:41 > 0:08:44- # Anyone as talented as us?

0:08:45 > 0:08:47- # Moo moo, meh meh, quack quack

0:08:48 > 0:08:51- # We are the farmyard trio

0:08:52 > 0:08:55- # Moo moo, meh meh, quack quack

0:08:55 > 0:08:59- # Listen to the farmyard trio #

0:09:00 > 0:09:02- I was looking at those sows.

0:09:03 > 0:09:04- Is there a boar, too?

0:09:05 > 0:09:07- A sow and a boar - you breed pigs.

0:09:07 > 0:09:09- I bought these as weaners.

0:09:09 > 0:09:12- I buy a number of pigs - from time to time.

0:09:13 > 0:09:17- I fatten them and take them - to Denbigh to be slaughtered.

0:09:17 > 0:09:19- I sell half the meat to friends.

0:09:19 > 0:09:21- I always buy Welsh pigs.

0:09:22 > 0:09:27- We entered four at the - Anglesey Winter Fair last year.

0:09:27 > 0:09:31- Ann took them along, - and she won the championship.

0:09:31 > 0:09:34- We received a huge rosette, - a band, and 80.

0:09:34 > 0:09:36- That was a good job!

0:09:38 > 0:09:43- There isn't much money to be made, - but I like having pigs around.

0:09:43 > 0:09:47- Pigs are my favourite animals, - always have been.

0:09:47 > 0:09:49- They're for sale, Dai!

0:09:49 > 0:09:51- I've been looking around.

0:09:51 > 0:09:57- You have ducks, sheep for showing, - horses, cattle, pigs.

0:09:57 > 0:10:01- People must think I'm losing - my mind, with so many animals!

0:10:02 > 0:10:03- The children like them.

0:10:04 > 0:10:07- And there's more to life - than making money...

0:10:07 > 0:10:09- ..although, yes, this pays.

0:10:10 > 0:10:13- You remind me very much of Noah!

0:10:15 > 0:10:19- All I need is a boat, - and plenty of rain next winter!

0:10:24 > 0:10:28- Like many other farms, - diversification is a necessity.

0:10:29 > 0:10:34- The Roberts family has established - a successful fencing company.

0:10:34 > 0:10:38- Today, they're working - on the Faenol Estate.

0:10:39 > 0:10:40- It's a great place.

0:10:41 > 0:10:43- Straps are needed here.

0:10:43 > 0:10:46- What are they keeping - elephants?!

0:10:46 > 0:10:48- It's fencing for deer.

0:10:49 > 0:10:51- It's old, of course.

0:10:51 > 0:10:55- It's all very old - - the poles, as well.

0:10:55 > 0:10:58- Yes, things we've removed - from the woods.

0:10:58 > 0:11:04- Myfyr, the owner, was keen - to project a vintage image.

0:11:04 > 0:11:05- Well done.

0:11:06 > 0:11:09- Dylan, I don't think - I've met you before.

0:11:09 > 0:11:10- He's my eldest son.

0:11:11 > 0:11:13- He's a strong lad!

0:11:13 > 0:11:15- Smart too - like his mother!

0:11:15 > 0:11:17- Yes, he's like his mother!

0:11:17 > 0:11:21- His father's brains - and his mother's looks!

0:11:21 > 0:11:25- We've been fencing together - for the past 15 years.

0:11:25 > 0:11:30- How many people do you have working - for the fencing company?

0:11:31 > 0:11:34- Dylan and I started the company, - 15 years ago.

0:11:34 > 0:11:38- Iwan, my younger son, - joined us about four years ago.

0:11:38 > 0:11:42- We have four local men - working with us.

0:11:42 > 0:11:44- What's that over there?

0:11:45 > 0:11:47- It looks unfinished.

0:11:48 > 0:11:50- We had one pole left over.

0:11:50 > 0:11:54- This shows you what they used to do - with the posts.

0:11:54 > 0:11:55- This is a piece of slate.

0:11:56 > 0:11:58- I see - there isn't any...

0:11:58 > 0:12:02- I was wondering how you got them - into the ground.

0:12:02 > 0:12:05- We go down two inches - and pack the soil around them.

0:12:06 > 0:12:07- These are bolted firmly.

0:12:08 > 0:12:09- No cement?

0:12:09 > 0:12:11- Nothing but soil.

0:12:11 > 0:12:12- Just soil, yes.

0:12:13 > 0:12:15- They're completely solid.

0:12:15 > 0:12:17- Yes, they are.

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0:12:41 > 0:12:45- Ann has asked me to come - to the house to do some cooking.

0:12:45 > 0:12:47- Cooking?!

0:12:48 > 0:12:50- We start with margarine.

0:12:52 > 0:12:53- Some sugar.

0:12:54 > 0:12:57- Would you like to use a mixer, - or are you alright?

0:12:58 > 0:12:59- I'd rather use a mixer!

0:13:01 > 0:13:02- Good gracious!

0:13:03 > 0:13:04- The sugar won't mix in.

0:13:05 > 0:13:06- You're doing well!

0:13:07 > 0:13:08- Just...

0:13:08 > 0:13:11- That won't work, try the table.

0:13:11 > 0:13:12- You've done it!

0:13:13 > 0:13:15- Mix it again.

0:13:15 > 0:13:18- Are you originally - from Anglesey, Ann?

0:13:18 > 0:13:20- No, I'm from Y Felinheli.

0:13:20 > 0:13:22- Dad and Mam were farmers.

0:13:23 > 0:13:25- You were brought up on a farm?

0:13:26 > 0:13:28- I wanted to be a farmer...

0:13:28 > 0:13:31- ..but Dad said no, - I'd have to do something else.

0:13:32 > 0:13:35- So I became a hairdresser.

0:13:36 > 0:13:38- We need some coffee, too.

0:13:39 > 0:13:41- You're doing a good job, Dei.

0:13:42 > 0:13:43- Hot water.

0:13:43 > 0:13:45- Hot water.- - Smashed to smithereens.

0:13:47 > 0:13:48- Yes, like crumbs.

0:13:49 > 0:13:50- We're doing well.

0:13:50 > 0:13:53- We're doing well.- - I've never been much of a cook.

0:13:53 > 0:13:54- You enjoy cooking?

0:13:54 > 0:13:55- You enjoy cooking?- - No, I'm a bad cook!

0:13:55 > 0:13:59- When we had a new microwave, - and I was at home alone...

0:13:59 > 0:14:03- ..I put two eggs in a saucepan - and placed it in the microwave.

0:14:04 > 0:14:06- I'd never heard such a loud bang!

0:14:06 > 0:14:08- Seriously!

0:14:11 > 0:14:14- Mixing cement is nothing - compared to this!

0:14:15 > 0:14:17- It's like ready mix!

0:14:17 > 0:14:19- I'll find a tin to put it in.

0:14:19 > 0:14:22- Let me show it to the world, first!

0:14:24 > 0:14:25- To the world!

0:14:25 > 0:14:27- Isn't it good?!

0:14:30 > 0:14:32- Alright, here you go, Ann.

0:14:32 > 0:14:34- It's making my back ache.

0:14:34 > 0:14:36- Yes, it does.

0:14:36 > 0:14:38- Yes, it does.- - It's worse than lugging bales.

0:14:39 > 0:14:40- BACK TO THE CAKE, DAI...

0:14:41 > 0:14:43- Pour it all into this.

0:14:43 > 0:14:44- Pour it?

0:14:44 > 0:14:46- Yes, get it in.

0:14:46 > 0:14:48- It won't come out.

0:14:53 > 0:14:56- It's like sheep dung on a carpet!

0:14:56 > 0:14:59- I'm glad it's not like cement!

0:15:00 > 0:15:03- I'll leave you - to put it in the oven.

0:15:03 > 0:15:04- You have a fancy cooker.

0:15:07 > 0:15:08- There we go.

0:15:10 > 0:15:12- 40 MINUTES LATER

0:15:13 > 0:15:16- Now then, Ann - this is - the first cake I've ever made!

0:15:17 > 0:15:20- And I've passed - my three score years and ten!

0:15:20 > 0:15:21- The cake!

0:15:22 > 0:15:23- Well!

0:15:24 > 0:15:25- Well done!

0:15:27 > 0:15:28- It has risen nicely.

0:15:29 > 0:15:32- It has risen fantastically well!

0:15:32 > 0:15:33- Why is it cracked?

0:15:33 > 0:15:35- Did we use too many eggs?

0:15:36 > 0:15:37- SNAP

0:15:37 > 0:15:39- What was that?!

0:15:40 > 0:15:43- It's still too hot for me to lift.

0:15:44 > 0:15:46- What is it called?

0:15:46 > 0:15:47- So I can let people know.

0:15:47 > 0:15:49- So I can let people know.- - It's a coffee and walnut cake.

0:15:50 > 0:15:52- Coffee and walnut.

0:15:53 > 0:15:54- Can you smell that, Huw?

0:15:54 > 0:15:56- Can you smell that, Huw?- - It smells good!

0:15:56 > 0:15:58- It'll be in my lunchbox tomorrow.

0:16:00 > 0:16:01- Who's this?

0:16:01 > 0:16:03- Guests are arriving!

0:16:03 > 0:16:05- We want to try the cake.

0:16:05 > 0:16:07- Could you smell it outside?

0:16:07 > 0:16:09- Yes, it's nice.

0:16:10 > 0:16:12- Two delightful young people.

0:16:12 > 0:16:14- Are they related to you?

0:16:14 > 0:16:17- Yes, a grandson and granddaughter.

0:16:17 > 0:16:19- What school do you go to?

0:16:19 > 0:16:20- Syr Hugh Owen.

0:16:21 > 0:16:23- You help Taid with showing sheep.

0:16:24 > 0:16:25- I try!

0:16:25 > 0:16:28- Taid washes them and I show them.

0:16:28 > 0:16:31- We've been talking - about you all morning!

0:16:31 > 0:16:35- They told me that you've passed - your driving test.

0:16:35 > 0:16:38- Yes - people had better watch out!

0:16:38 > 0:16:42- Now, you'll be able to drive Taid - from place to place!

0:16:42 > 0:16:43- Yes - a chauffer!

0:16:43 > 0:16:45- And what do you do?

0:16:45 > 0:16:47- I'm in Year 10...

0:16:48 > 0:16:51- ..and I'm about to sit - three science exams.

0:16:52 > 0:16:56- Will you work over summer - and earn some pocket money?

0:16:56 > 0:16:59- I don't know - - I think I'll just chill!

0:17:00 > 0:17:01- Helping Taid.

0:17:01 > 0:17:03- Very good.

0:17:03 > 0:17:05- The best of luck to both of you.

0:17:05 > 0:17:10- She can have this cake for a party - to celebrate passing her test!

0:17:10 > 0:17:12- That's right!

0:17:12 > 0:17:13- That's right!- - Excellent!

0:17:13 > 0:17:15- Don't drive after eating that!

0:17:16 > 0:17:17- I don't know what's in it!

0:17:53 > 0:17:56- This is Tyn Gongl Farm, - Llannerch-y-medd.

0:17:56 > 0:18:00- It's the home of Iwan, - the younger son, and his family.

0:18:00 > 0:18:04- Of course, his fencing costs - are bound to be a little cheaper!

0:18:05 > 0:18:06- He's hard at work.

0:18:44 > 0:18:46- I haven't seen that before.

0:18:46 > 0:18:47- I haven't seen that before.- - It's handy.

0:18:48 > 0:18:51- It saves having to bend so much - to open the coils.

0:18:52 > 0:18:53- I just do this.

0:18:55 > 0:18:56- It's good.

0:18:56 > 0:18:58- Yes, it's...

0:18:59 > 0:19:00- Could you hold this?

0:19:00 > 0:19:02- Do you want me to hold it?

0:19:02 > 0:19:03- Do you want me to hold it?- - Yes.

0:19:05 > 0:19:09- Then we're away with this, - down the field.

0:19:09 > 0:19:10- Off you go to Amlwch!

0:19:10 > 0:19:12- Off you go to Amlwch!- - All the way to Amlwch!

0:19:13 > 0:19:14- Yes, it's very handy.

0:19:14 > 0:19:16- Yes, it's very handy.- - Yes, it is.

0:19:16 > 0:19:17- First class!

0:19:17 > 0:19:19- First class!- - It saves having to bend down.

0:19:19 > 0:19:21- We made this ourselves.

0:19:21 > 0:19:25- We also have equipment - for working with barbed wire.

0:19:25 > 0:19:30- You create things to make - your work easier, as you go along.

0:19:50 > 0:19:52- Iwan, this fencing won't take long.

0:19:53 > 0:19:53- It's going well.

0:19:53 > 0:19:55- It's going well.- - Yes, it's coming along well.

0:19:56 > 0:19:57- Good fences are vital.

0:19:57 > 0:19:59- Yes, it helps a lot.

0:20:00 > 0:20:03- These machines - are great for erecting posts.

0:20:03 > 0:20:05- They're very safe.

0:20:05 > 0:20:06- You can keep on going.

0:20:06 > 0:20:10- There's no need - for anyone to hold anything.

0:20:10 > 0:20:14- The pole is held by the machine - - it's much easier.

0:20:14 > 0:20:18- It's nice, you're a family - and everyone knows what to do.

0:20:18 > 0:20:20- We all work together.

0:20:21 > 0:20:23- We're very happy, yes indeed.

0:20:24 > 0:20:27- I don't want to keep you - from your work.

0:20:27 > 0:20:29- Champion, brilliant!

0:20:29 > 0:20:31- Thank you!

0:20:40 > 0:20:43- It's wonderful to have such sons.

0:20:43 > 0:20:44- Yes.

0:20:45 > 0:20:47- It's the only way to run a business.

0:20:48 > 0:20:51- They do most of the work, - and I can take a back seat.

0:20:52 > 0:20:53- They do the planning.

0:20:55 > 0:20:57- I have a final say, of course.

0:20:57 > 0:21:03- Lots of young men, all speaking - the language of heaven!

0:21:03 > 0:21:04- That's great!

0:21:04 > 0:21:07- It's good that they're working.

0:21:07 > 0:21:12- It's great that we've developed the - fencing to keep them in employment.

0:21:13 > 0:21:15- I'm pleased with that.

0:21:15 > 0:21:19- They're chatting away - and enjoying the work.

0:21:19 > 0:21:21- Yes, they're a happy gang.

0:21:21 > 0:21:26- There isn't a boss - everyone - pitches in to get the job done.

0:21:41 > 0:21:45- One thing I've noticed - - it isn't always done, these days.

0:21:45 > 0:21:49- People don't always put barbed wire - at the bottom.

0:21:49 > 0:21:51- We always do it.

0:21:51 > 0:21:53- If you place the netting too low...

0:21:54 > 0:21:57- ..over the years, the grass grows up - and drags it down.

0:21:57 > 0:22:00- With barbed wire at the bottom...

0:22:00 > 0:22:03- ..animals can't stick their heads - through the gap.

0:22:04 > 0:22:09- It's good to see a team of people - working together and enjoying life.

0:22:09 > 0:22:10- That's right.

0:22:11 > 0:22:12- No-one wants to be boss.

0:22:12 > 0:22:14- We all work together.

0:22:15 > 0:22:16- We enjoy fencing.

0:22:16 > 0:22:18- I don't know about you...

0:22:19 > 0:22:23- ..but in my view, - of all the industries...

0:22:23 > 0:22:25- ..farming will be the last to go.

0:22:25 > 0:22:27- People can't do without food.

0:22:28 > 0:22:30- We'll be safe for years...

0:22:30 > 0:22:33- ..and I'm sure the children - have a future in farming.

0:22:34 > 0:22:35- Things will get better.

0:22:36 > 0:22:39- It's terrible when there's nothing - to keep them here.

0:22:40 > 0:22:41- It's important...

0:22:41 > 0:22:46- ..for young people to be able - to remain in their localities.

0:22:46 > 0:22:47- I've enjoyed my visit.

0:22:48 > 0:22:49- We've had sunshine every day.

0:22:49 > 0:22:50- We've had sunshine every day.- - Yes, that means a lot.

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