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0:00:10 > 0:00:11- Over the years...
0:00:12 > 0:00:17- ..I've had the pleasure of meeting - legendary characters of rural Wales.
0:00:17 > 0:00:23- In September 1993, I met Defi John - and his brother, Brynmor Jones...
0:00:23 > 0:00:27- ..the kings of Frongoy Stud - in Ceredigion.
0:00:27 > 0:00:32- Their Welsh cobs - were famous throughout the country.
0:00:32 > 0:00:37- We've built the cathedral - - it's up to them to keep it going...
0:00:37 > 0:00:38- ..to maintain it.
0:00:40 > 0:00:44- Twenty-three years later, - we meet the next generation...
0:00:44 > 0:00:49- ..the fifth generation, - still maintaining the cathedral...
0:00:49 > 0:00:52- ..built by Defi John - and his brothers.
0:00:53 > 0:00:57- I hope I live long enough to teach - him every trick in the book.
0:01:03 > 0:01:06- THE FRONGOY FAMILY
0:01:06 > 0:01:08- I said this many years ago...
0:01:08 > 0:01:11- ..and it's still true today...
0:01:11 > 0:01:15- ..Welsh cobs and Cardis go together - like a bucket and spade.
0:01:15 > 0:01:20- This small corner of Ceredigion, - near Aberaeron...
0:01:20 > 0:01:22- ..is a stronghold for cobs.
0:01:23 > 0:01:26- Anyone and everyone - who is a fan of Welsh cobs...
0:01:26 > 0:01:29- ..has visited this place.
0:01:29 > 0:01:33- I'm on my way to Frongoy - - my idea of paradise!
0:01:36 > 0:01:40- On my last visit, Dafydd was a baby - and Sion hadn't been born.
0:01:41 > 0:01:46- Today, Dafydd is a fit young man, 24 - years old, and Sion is 20 years old.
0:01:46 > 0:01:51- Both are chips - off the old Frongoy block.
0:01:52 > 0:01:57- Gwyn, their father, continues to - bring success to the Frongoy Stud...
0:01:57 > 0:02:00- ..in major competitions - at our leading show.
0:02:02 > 0:02:05- I'm looking - at the immortals' gallery.
0:02:05 > 0:02:09- Those are just championships - at the Royal Welsh Show.
0:02:09 > 0:02:14- Yes - we've won other prizes, - but those are the main winnings.
0:02:14 > 0:02:18- The cards on the left are all - for the Prince of Wales Cup...
0:02:19 > 0:02:22- ..Section D, - with Section C on the other side.
0:02:23 > 0:02:27- At the top, Tom & Sprightly winners - - we've won five or six times.
0:02:29 > 0:02:32- Here, we have two young stallions.
0:02:32 > 0:02:36- That's Fronarth Joshua with Dafydd - - he's doing well.
0:02:36 > 0:02:39- He moves well - - I like his front legs.
0:02:40 > 0:02:42- And with Sion - are they related?
0:02:42 > 0:02:47- Yes, they trace back to mares - used by the stud in the 1930s.
0:02:47 > 0:02:50- That's Prince of Wales with Sion.
0:02:50 > 0:02:51- He's a son of Model Lady.
0:02:51 > 0:02:54- He's a son of Model Lady.- - She won the Prince of Wales Cup.
0:02:54 > 0:02:58- Yes, she won - the Prince of Wales Cup in 2007.
0:02:58 > 0:03:02- This stallion - was a young foal at the time...
0:03:02 > 0:03:04- ..so we named him Prince of Wales.
0:03:05 > 0:03:06- It's a good name.
0:03:06 > 0:03:10- It's nice that your sons - have a keen interest.
0:03:10 > 0:03:15- You must be proud to watch them - on a showground or here at home.
0:03:15 > 0:03:20- Very proud - it's nice to see them - doing a good job and succeeding.
0:03:21 > 0:03:24- Those horses are warming up!
0:03:26 > 0:03:28- If you have a special cob...
0:03:28 > 0:03:32- ..the best place in the world - for showing him off...
0:03:33 > 0:03:37- ..is at the Royal Welsh Show - on the Wednesday afternoon.
0:03:37 > 0:03:40- Frongoy cobs - have thrilled the crowds...
0:03:41 > 0:03:45- ..and they have won - the main championship eight times.
0:03:46 > 0:03:48- It's something to aim for.
0:03:48 > 0:03:49- When a foal is born...
0:03:50 > 0:03:55- ..you wonder if it's good enough to - win the cup at the Royal Welsh Show.
0:03:55 > 0:03:59- Defi John experienced - several memorable years.
0:03:59 > 0:04:01- Anglesey, England.
0:04:01 > 0:04:03- Yes, all kinds of places.
0:04:03 > 0:04:04- I like the display.
0:04:04 > 0:04:05- I like the display.- - We know where they are!
0:04:06 > 0:04:08- The black mare - is that Boneddiges?
0:04:08 > 0:04:10- The black mare - is that Boneddiges?- - That's right - Boneddiges.
0:04:11 > 0:04:13- And Cyttir Telynor, her father.
0:04:14 > 0:04:16- I'm beginning to understand.
0:04:16 > 0:04:18- That's Welsh Model.
0:04:19 > 0:04:22- Didn't the roan horse - win a special prize?
0:04:22 > 0:04:25- Yes, two - in-hand and driving.
0:04:26 > 0:04:27- The same day?
0:04:28 > 0:04:32- The younger generation - had a great year in 2014.
0:04:32 > 0:04:38- This is Super Model, led by Dafydd, - winning the Prince of Wales Cup.
0:04:38 > 0:04:42- The crowd acknowledges - Dafydd Jones's achievements.
0:04:43 > 0:04:46- Without a doubt, - 2014 was the pinnacle...
0:04:46 > 0:04:49- ..for me, and for us as a family...
0:04:50 > 0:04:55- ..as we watched Dafydd - win the Prince of Wales Cup.
0:04:57 > 0:04:59- It's the best feeling ever.
0:04:59 > 0:05:03- Dafydd also won - the supreme championship...
0:05:03 > 0:05:05- ..with his Suffolk sheep...
0:05:05 > 0:05:10- ..and Sion won the supreme - championship with his Kerry Hills.
0:05:10 > 0:05:15- This triple crown - put Frongoy's fifth generation...
0:05:15 > 0:05:18- ..in prime position - for both cobs and sheep.
0:05:20 > 0:05:24- Dafydd's new home is a stone's throw - from the family farm.
0:05:25 > 0:05:29- Cefn-gwrthafarn Isaf is a huge house - for a young bachelor.
0:05:29 > 0:05:31- The surrounding land...
0:05:31 > 0:05:35- ..is a perfect habitat - for his champion Suffolk sheep.
0:05:36 > 0:05:39- I keep my pedigree sheep here.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41- King of your own castle!
0:05:41 > 0:05:44- Many of these sheep are home-bred.
0:05:45 > 0:05:47- Yes, I'm developing my own lines.
0:05:48 > 0:05:52- One of the ewes, a reserve champion - at the Royal Welsh in 2012...
0:05:53 > 0:05:56- ..has produced several good rams.
0:05:56 > 0:05:58- I've had eggs removed from her.
0:05:58 > 0:06:00- I've started flushing her.
0:06:01 > 0:06:02- Do you use AI?
0:06:02 > 0:06:05- Yes, I use AI with all of them.
0:06:05 > 0:06:07- Getting the timing right is tricky.
0:06:08 > 0:06:12- Yes, it can be tricky, and the lambs - are all born at the same time.
0:06:13 > 0:06:16- A shed is really useful - when the weather is bad.
0:06:17 > 0:06:20- Ewes must give birth, - whatever the weather.
0:06:20 > 0:06:22- I'm lucky to have the shed.
0:06:28 > 0:06:31- I could hear the shears - from the bottom of the yard!
0:06:32 > 0:06:34- Is this a busy time for you?
0:06:34 > 0:06:37- Yes, I'm preparing for a sale - next week.
0:06:38 > 0:06:40- I'm selling 12 ram lambs.
0:06:40 > 0:06:41- These are lambs?
0:06:41 > 0:06:43- These are lambs?- - Ram lambs, yes.
0:06:43 > 0:06:45- Good gracious, they're big!
0:06:45 > 0:06:48- How did you become interested?
0:06:48 > 0:06:50- You also keep horses and cattle.
0:06:51 > 0:06:52- Are sheep your favourites?
0:06:52 > 0:06:54- Are sheep your favourites?- - Yes, they are, definitely.
0:06:54 > 0:06:57- I bought a few rams - for cross-breeding...
0:06:58 > 0:07:02- ..then I chose a few Suffolk ewes, - and took it from there.
0:07:02 > 0:07:04- You're doing well.
0:07:04 > 0:07:06- Is it like breeding cattle?
0:07:07 > 0:07:09- Do you focus on certain bloodlines?
0:07:10 > 0:07:13- It's nice to follow certain lines.
0:07:13 > 0:07:16- Suffolks used to be - a very popular old breed.
0:07:16 > 0:07:20- At one time, marts were packed - with black-headed lambs.
0:07:21 > 0:07:25- These days, - Continental breeds predominate.
0:07:25 > 0:07:27- You need Suffolks for weight.
0:07:28 > 0:07:32- If they get any bigger, - you'll need planning permission!
0:07:33 > 0:07:35- They're big!
0:07:39 > 0:07:42- Sion, the younger son, - is a part-time farmer.
0:07:42 > 0:07:45- Agriculture is in his blood...
0:07:45 > 0:07:49- ..but his sights are turned towards - the sea and Llanon village...
0:07:50 > 0:07:53- ..where he makes sausages.
0:07:53 > 0:07:55- Hello!
0:07:56 > 0:07:57- Are you busy?
0:07:57 > 0:07:59- Are you busy?- - How are you?
0:07:59 > 0:08:00- The weather's fine.
0:08:00 > 0:08:02- Yes, it is.
0:08:02 > 0:08:03- Yes, it is.- - It's glorious.
0:08:06 > 0:08:08- How is the heir?
0:08:09 > 0:08:10- There he is.
0:08:11 > 0:08:12- Sion, how are you?
0:08:12 > 0:08:14- Sion, how are you?- - Alright?
0:08:14 > 0:08:16- Are you making sausages?
0:08:17 > 0:08:19- What type of sausages are they?
0:08:19 > 0:08:21- Pork and apple.
0:08:22 > 0:08:24- How long have you worked here?
0:08:24 > 0:08:25- How long have you worked here?- - Since I was 12 years old.
0:08:25 > 0:08:26- Since you were 12 years old?
0:08:26 > 0:08:29- Since you were 12 years old?- - I'd help out at Christmas.
0:08:30 > 0:08:31- Did Ben teach you?
0:08:31 > 0:08:34- Yes, he taught me everything.
0:08:34 > 0:08:37- I could have become a farmer, - but this is different.
0:08:38 > 0:08:41- You don't have much time - for holidays.
0:08:41 > 0:08:43- Do you ever manage to get away?
0:08:43 > 0:08:44- Do you ever manage to get away?- - Not very often.
0:08:44 > 0:08:46- Is he a good boss?
0:08:46 > 0:08:48- Is he a good boss?- - On days off, I go to shows or sales.
0:08:49 > 0:08:51- Do you enjoy working at the counter?
0:08:51 > 0:08:53- Do you enjoy working at the counter?- - I like talking to people.
0:08:53 > 0:08:59- You've trained as a butcher, - but talking is in your blood!
0:08:59 > 0:09:00- Yes!
0:09:00 > 0:09:02- Yes!- - A legacy of your family at Frongoy!
0:09:02 > 0:09:04- Yes!
0:09:04 > 0:09:05- Yes!- - You've got everything!
0:09:06 > 0:09:07- This is a nice spot.
0:09:08 > 0:09:10- I'll see you at the farm.
0:09:10 > 0:09:13- I don't want you - messing up the sausages!
0:09:13 > 0:09:15- See you later.
0:09:15 > 0:09:17- My backside and your belly!
0:09:17 > 0:09:19- They don't leave much of a gap!
0:09:19 > 0:09:21- Nice to see you!
0:09:21 > 0:09:23- Call again!
0:09:26 > 0:09:28- When he isn't making sausages...
0:09:29 > 0:09:35- ..Sion takes care of his flock of - Kerry Hill sheep at Frongoy Farm.
0:09:37 > 0:09:38- They look smart.
0:09:38 > 0:09:40- How many do you have?
0:09:41 > 0:09:42- I have 55.
0:09:43 > 0:09:46- Your brother chose Suffolk sheep.
0:09:47 > 0:09:49- Why are you keen on this breed?
0:09:49 > 0:09:54- I wanted to be a young handler - when I was nine or ten years old...
0:09:54 > 0:09:57- ..so my grandfather - bought me one of these.
0:09:57 > 0:10:01- I've been showing them ever since - - it's great fun.
0:10:02 > 0:10:04- You've done well, fair play.
0:10:04 > 0:10:07- You enjoy showing - and it's in your blood.
0:10:08 > 0:10:10- We've had a few good years.
0:10:10 > 0:10:14- My Kerry Hills - won at the Royal Welsh in 2011.
0:10:14 > 0:10:16- That was the first time.
0:10:16 > 0:10:21- I also won the supreme championship - at the Smallholders Show...
0:10:21 > 0:10:22- ..with the same sheep.
0:10:23 > 0:10:25- I had a good year in 2014, too.
0:10:25 > 0:10:30- This year has been a big year, too - - you've started judging.
0:10:30 > 0:10:34- I was a judge at this year's - biggest Kerry Hill sale.
0:10:34 > 0:10:37- I bought most of the winners.
0:10:37 > 0:10:39- Might as well!
0:10:39 > 0:10:42- That's the way to succeed!
0:10:42 > 0:10:44- You need a plan!
0:10:44 > 0:10:45- How old are you?
0:10:46 > 0:10:48- I'm 20 years old.
0:10:48 > 0:10:53- You talk as if - you've been around for 2,000 years!
0:10:53 > 0:10:55- I learned well from the old boys!
0:10:57 > 0:10:58- Yes, you have!
0:10:59 > 0:11:01- You've thought of everything!
0:11:01 > 0:11:03- Excellent!
0:11:07 > 0:11:11- The younger Frongoy lads - are diversifying...
0:11:11 > 0:11:15- ..and making a name for themselves - with their sheep.
0:11:15 > 0:11:19- But their father, Gwyn, - is a dedicated cob man.
0:11:21 > 0:11:24- There are very few people...
0:11:24 > 0:11:28- ..whose horses - have won so many prizes...
0:11:28 > 0:11:30- ..and here they are, in one field.
0:11:30 > 0:11:34- All three mares - have won at the Royal Welsh...
0:11:34 > 0:11:37- ..the prestigious - Prince of Wales Cup.
0:11:38 > 0:11:39- All three of them?
0:11:39 > 0:11:42- All three of them?- - Yes, the three mares in this field.
0:11:42 > 0:11:46- They trace back - to the old bloodlines.
0:11:46 > 0:11:50- Welsh Model was the mother - of two of the mares.
0:11:50 > 0:11:53- We can trace them back to the 1930s.
0:11:53 > 0:11:56- Model Lady is 20 years old - - she won in 2007.
0:11:57 > 0:12:03- Lausanne, over there, is - 15 years old, and she won in 2006.
0:12:04 > 0:12:10- Super Model is the youngest mare, - and she won in 2014.
0:12:10 > 0:12:12- That's quite a record.
0:12:12 > 0:12:14- Yes, it is.
0:12:14 > 0:12:18- And each time we win, - that horse is the best ever!
0:12:18 > 0:12:21- It spurs us on - to achieve even more.
0:12:25 > 0:12:29- We want to carry on winning - and to carry on breeding.
0:12:29 > 0:12:32- Sometimes, you look - at a new-born foal...
0:12:32 > 0:12:35- ..and think, - "This is a good one."
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0:12:51 > 0:12:53- Back in September 1993...
0:12:53 > 0:12:58- ..I brought the Cefn Gwlad cameras - to Frongoy, Pennant, Ceredigion...
0:12:59 > 0:13:02- ..to meet - two unique Welsh cob breeders...
0:13:02 > 0:13:05- ..Defi John and his brother, - Brynmor Jones.
0:13:06 > 0:13:10- The old boys of Frongoy - are no longer with us...
0:13:10 > 0:13:15- ..but their successors, Gwyn Jones - and his sons, Dafydd and Sion...
0:13:15 > 0:13:17- ..carry on the tradition.
0:13:18 > 0:13:20- The younger generation...
0:13:20 > 0:13:24- ..builds on the firm foundations - of its inheritance.
0:13:24 > 0:13:28- It has also inherited - the talent for breeding champions.
0:13:30 > 0:13:34- Are these - your older Section C mares?
0:13:34 > 0:13:39- Yes - this is Nightshade, a winner - at this year's Royal Welsh Show.
0:13:39 > 0:13:41- She was a youngstock champion.
0:13:41 > 0:13:45- Her foal was born - just before the Royal Welsh Show.
0:13:45 > 0:13:46- Will you keep the foals?
0:13:46 > 0:13:48- Will you keep the foals?- - Yes, we'll keep them.
0:13:48 > 0:13:51- We need replacements - for the older mares.
0:13:51 > 0:13:54- That's the mother of Robben.
0:13:55 > 0:14:00- Minafon Sioned - - she's 23 years old - with her foal.
0:14:01 > 0:14:02- She's nice.
0:14:02 > 0:14:05- She's a half-sister to Robben.
0:14:05 > 0:14:06- That's right, a half-sister.
0:14:06 > 0:14:07- That's right, a half-sister.- - They're so tame.
0:14:08 > 0:14:11- This field - is next to a caravan site...
0:14:11 > 0:14:14- ..and children - bring bread and carrots...
0:14:14 > 0:14:16- ..which helps to tame them.
0:14:17 > 0:14:21- They won't be so tame - when we move them to the house.
0:14:22 > 0:14:23- She's very tame indeed.
0:14:26 > 0:14:28- She seems interested in the cameras!
0:14:29 > 0:14:30- Yes, she is!
0:14:30 > 0:14:32- She might become a film star!
0:14:32 > 0:14:33- She might become a film star!- - Or work for S4C!
0:14:38 > 0:14:41- Section C cob types - and harness driving...
0:14:41 > 0:14:44- ..were Defi John's chief delight.
0:14:44 > 0:14:49- He won the driving championship many - times at the show in Llanelwedd.
0:14:50 > 0:14:54- I'm sure he would be proud to see - his youngest successor, Sion...
0:14:55 > 0:14:57- ..following in his footsteps.
0:14:57 > 0:15:01- Though Sion is also motivated - by the lure of money.
0:15:03 > 0:15:04- What's this?
0:15:05 > 0:15:06- He has pretty legs!
0:15:06 > 0:15:08- He's a Section C colt.
0:15:08 > 0:15:10- Fronarth Flash Alli.
0:15:10 > 0:15:12- Sion is his owner.
0:15:13 > 0:15:15- Will Sion keep him for showing?
0:15:15 > 0:15:18- He's caught a whiff of money - with his sheep...
0:15:18 > 0:15:21- ..and now he wants to sell the colt.
0:15:21 > 0:15:23- It's in his blood.
0:15:25 > 0:15:27- The colt moves nicely.
0:15:27 > 0:15:29- Does he hark back to the old breed?
0:15:29 > 0:15:33- Yes - Gwelfro Tywysog - is one of his great-grandfathers.
0:15:33 > 0:15:37- He looks like he could be a winner - in harness.
0:15:37 > 0:15:40- Section C has always been important - at Frongoy.
0:15:41 > 0:15:45- Yes, we've won the Section C - championship six times...
0:15:45 > 0:15:48- ..at the Royal Welsh Show.
0:15:48 > 0:15:53- Gwelfro Tywysog won 11 times - in harness driving competitions.
0:15:54 > 0:15:58- On his last day, he also won - the Section C championship, in-hand.
0:15:58 > 0:15:59- He won the double.
0:15:59 > 0:16:01- He won the double.- - He was handsome roan stallion.
0:16:01 > 0:16:03- He was extremely handsome.
0:16:07 > 0:16:11- The farm's greatest star - is in the stable at the end.
0:16:13 > 0:16:14- What do you have in here?
0:16:15 > 0:16:17- This is Fronarth Robben.
0:16:19 > 0:16:20- He has a good head.
0:16:20 > 0:16:22- He has a good head.- - He's one of our favourites.
0:16:23 > 0:16:25- He's a consistent winner.
0:16:25 > 0:16:30- He won the Section C championship - three times in succession.
0:16:30 > 0:16:31- Do you have any of his offspring?
0:16:31 > 0:16:34- Do you have any of his offspring?- - Yes, a couple of nice fillies.
0:16:34 > 0:16:37- His services as a stallion - are in high demand.
0:16:37 > 0:16:41- I'm not surprised - - he's won so many prizes.
0:16:42 > 0:16:45- As soon as he was born, - I knew he was special.
0:16:46 > 0:16:48- "A superstar has been born."
0:16:48 > 0:16:49- That's the truth.
0:16:50 > 0:16:53- Within a few hours, - he acted like he owned the place!
0:16:54 > 0:16:56- Looking after them well is crucial.
0:16:56 > 0:16:58- Keeping their legs clean and so on.
0:16:58 > 0:17:00- Keeping their legs clean and so on.- - He's taken a fancy to me!
0:17:01 > 0:17:04- Nicky, Gwyn's wife - and the boys' mother...
0:17:05 > 0:17:09- ..is a key member - of the family team at Frongoy.
0:17:09 > 0:17:14- With so many horse and stables, - the work never ends.
0:17:15 > 0:17:17- Hard work is a way of life.
0:17:19 > 0:17:19- This is Prince of Wales, is it?
0:17:19 > 0:17:22- This is Prince of Wales, is it?- - Yes - Model Lady is his mother.
0:17:22 > 0:17:23- Sparc is his father.
0:17:24 > 0:17:25- You do a lot of washing, Nicky?
0:17:25 > 0:17:28- You do a lot of washing, Nicky?- - Yes, I do the washing and trimming.
0:17:29 > 0:17:32- Dafydd helps - with most of the cleaning out.
0:17:32 > 0:17:36- It's a lot of work - - washing, preparing.
0:17:36 > 0:17:40- And there's a heck of a lot - of horses to clean out and feed.
0:17:41 > 0:17:45- Oh, it is - I'm glad the boys are - young and fit, they help us a lot.
0:17:46 > 0:17:49- Which of you is most involved - with horses?
0:17:49 > 0:17:50- Him.
0:17:51 > 0:17:52- I'm more involved with horses.
0:17:52 > 0:17:55- I'm more involved with horses.- - I'm starting to get interested.
0:17:55 > 0:17:56- You work as a butcher.
0:17:57 > 0:18:00- No wonder - you're keen on making money!
0:18:00 > 0:18:01- That's right!
0:18:01 > 0:18:04- There's plenty of work - with the sheep.
0:18:05 > 0:18:07- You have four different breeds.
0:18:07 > 0:18:10- You have four different breeds.- - They're keen on sheep and horses.
0:18:10 > 0:18:14- It's a lot of hard work, - but it's worth it.
0:18:20 > 0:18:25- It's autumn, and another busy year - of competing draws to an end.
0:18:25 > 0:18:28- They've travelled to shows - all over the country.
0:18:29 > 0:18:33- Sales begin, and the Llanelwedd - sale is an important event.
0:18:34 > 0:18:37- Sales are vital - for creating profits...
0:18:37 > 0:18:42- ..so that further investment - can be made in the bloodlines...
0:18:42 > 0:18:46- ..thus securing - Frongoy's continuing success.
0:18:47 > 0:18:50- Several horses - have sold for over 10,000.
0:18:50 > 0:18:54- One foal sold for 12,000 - - Telynores Goch.
0:18:55 > 0:18:57- That's good money for a foal.
0:18:57 > 0:18:59- A young filly.
0:18:59 > 0:19:02- She was the first - to sell for 12,000.
0:19:02 > 0:19:05- Later, another foal - fetched the same price.
0:19:06 > 0:19:09- Selling horses is different.
0:19:09 > 0:19:13- You sell sheep, cattle and rams - - they're commercial sales.
0:19:14 > 0:19:16- Horses are an infrequent purchase.
0:19:17 > 0:19:21- And sales take place - just once a year.
0:19:21 > 0:19:24- You take part every year - at the Royal Welsh Show.
0:19:25 > 0:19:27- You're eminent competitors.
0:19:27 > 0:19:30- It's a good way - of advertising your horses.
0:19:31 > 0:19:33- The bloodlines must be good.
0:19:33 > 0:19:36- These days, lots of people - want white markings.
0:19:37 > 0:19:39- They want horses for riding.
0:19:39 > 0:19:41- But the old type will prevail.
0:19:42 > 0:19:45- A cob must be capable - of being ridden...
0:19:45 > 0:19:49- ..but they're better known - for showing in-hand.
0:19:49 > 0:19:51- That's our focus.
0:19:51 > 0:19:55- Some foals are more suitable - for riding, of course.
0:19:55 > 0:19:58- But we hope to show - the best fillies.
0:19:58 > 0:20:02- Fortunately, - it's a versatile breed.
0:20:02 > 0:20:06- For me, this field - has memorable associations.
0:20:06 > 0:20:10- I remember filming the remarkable - old mares in this field.
0:20:11 > 0:20:14- It's nice the see - the continuation of the lines.
0:20:16 > 0:20:18- The far end of this field...
0:20:19 > 0:20:24- ..is where we buried the two best - mares, Boneddiges and Welsh Model...
0:20:24 > 0:20:26- ..next to each other.
0:20:26 > 0:20:29- They liked this field, - and here they remain.
0:20:34 > 0:20:35- Boneddiges...
0:20:36 > 0:20:38- ..and Welsh Model.
0:20:39 > 0:20:43- They were the stars of Frongoy - when I visited 23 years ago.
0:20:45 > 0:20:47- Gwyn was a young lad at the time...
0:20:47 > 0:20:51- ..running the horses - in front of Defi John and me.
0:20:51 > 0:20:54- I could have spent all day - watching them.
0:20:55 > 0:20:57- I can still remember the thrill.
0:20:59 > 0:21:04- Yes, the roots are deep - in the fertile earth at Frongoy.
0:21:05 > 0:21:07- It's so good to see continuity.
0:21:07 > 0:21:14- The love of cobs is handed down - from generation to generation.
0:21:15 > 0:21:19- It must have been good - to grow up around the old boys.
0:21:19 > 0:21:20- It was a pleasure.
0:21:21 > 0:21:23- They were like fathers to us.
0:21:24 > 0:21:25- How much do you remember?
0:21:26 > 0:21:29- You were very young, - the last time I visited.
0:21:29 > 0:21:32- You spent many years - in their company.
0:21:32 > 0:21:34- Defi John was the first to go.
0:21:34 > 0:21:38- We learned a lot from them, - over the years.
0:21:38 > 0:21:42- We spent more time with Brynmor - because he lived longer.
0:21:42 > 0:21:46- But I remember Defi John well - - Defi John and his horses.
0:21:46 > 0:21:50- It's nice that you're carrying on - with the traditions.
0:21:51 > 0:21:53- It's nice to be where you grew up...
0:21:53 > 0:21:56- ..thinking of them - looking down at you.
0:21:56 > 0:21:58- I'm sure they're happy.
0:21:58 > 0:22:00- I'm sure they are.
0:22:01 > 0:22:05- Do you always finish - your brother's sentences?!
0:22:10 > 0:22:12- I'm sure Defi John...
0:22:12 > 0:22:15- ..would be delighted - with our successes.
0:22:21 > 0:22:25- Dafydd, fair play to him, - is the fifth generation.
0:22:26 > 0:22:29- I hope another generation - will follow.
0:22:29 > 0:22:32- I remember Defi John - commenting on Dafydd...
0:22:33 > 0:22:37- .."I hope I live long enough to - teach him every trick in the book."
0:22:41 > 0:22:45- I hope they enjoy it - as much as I've done...
0:22:45 > 0:22:47- ..and experience the same success.
0:22:47 > 0:22:49- I'd be very proud.
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