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0:00:10 > 0:00:13- # Remember

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0:00:26 > 0:00:29- Welcome once again to Cofio.

0:00:29 > 0:00:33- My guest tonight collects stories - and has done so for half a century.

0:00:34 > 0:00:36- He has found them all over the world.

0:00:36 > 0:00:42- Sharing some of them tonight - is an S4C stalwart, Gwyn Llewelyn.

0:00:42 > 0:00:44- Good evening.

0:00:44 > 0:00:46- They say that you've retired...

0:00:46 > 0:00:49- ..but I can't see you being idle.

0:00:49 > 0:00:53- Yes, I did retire, - almost three years ago.

0:00:53 > 0:00:56- I felt I'd reached a milestone, 65.

0:00:56 > 0:01:00- I sense that some people - stay on a bit too long, perhaps.

0:01:01 > 0:01:04- Yes, I'm retired, - but I'm back producing now.

0:01:05 > 0:01:09- I do Wedi 7 three days a week, - but I've slowed down a bit.

0:01:09 > 0:01:12- I thought we'd kick off - this evening...

0:01:12 > 0:01:16- ..by showing different aspects - of your career.

0:01:16 > 0:01:20- Let's start with a series - that began in 1986.

0:01:20 > 0:01:22- Here's the first programme.

0:01:27 > 0:01:31- Having spent the last seven years - travelling 200 miles...

0:01:31 > 0:01:36- ..to present a TV programme, - I'll do so tonight in my own garden.

0:01:36 > 0:01:39- As ever, may I ask - "How are you this evening?"

0:01:39 > 0:01:42- Welcome to the first edition - of Hel Straeon.

0:01:47 > 0:01:51- This time last year, - petrol was 38 pence a gallon.

0:01:51 > 0:01:53- Today, it's 55 pence.

0:02:00 > 0:02:04- FLOSY and NLF have said - that they'll now target...

0:02:04 > 0:02:09- ..army families and children - as well as the soldiers.

0:02:09 > 0:02:13- Here, near Quito, the capital - of Ecuador in South America...

0:02:13 > 0:02:16- ..I have a foot - on each side of the equator.

0:02:17 > 0:02:21- I'm supposed to do something with - this rope, but I'm not sure what!

0:02:32 > 0:02:35- I don't remember - some of those clips.

0:02:35 > 0:02:41- You left school at the age of 16 - to enter the world of journalism.

0:02:41 > 0:02:47- Yes. That was back in 1958 - over 50 - years ago, which is rather shocking.

0:02:48 > 0:02:51- It was a unique experience - in many ways.

0:02:52 > 0:02:56- I worked on the North Wales - Chronicle in Bangor...

0:02:56 > 0:02:59- ..collecting local news stories.

0:02:59 > 0:03:03- One weekly task was to visit - the Dean of Bangor in the Cathedral.

0:03:04 > 0:03:07- He used to send me out - to fetch his cigarettes for him!

0:03:08 > 0:03:11- I've managed to look young - for much of my life...

0:03:11 > 0:03:14- ..but at 16, I probably looked 10!

0:03:14 > 0:03:19- Do you feel you missed out at all - by not pursuing higher education?

0:03:19 > 0:03:22- What I lost, or feel that I lost...

0:03:23 > 0:03:27- ..was the freedom offered - by three years away at college.

0:03:27 > 0:03:31- I missed out on National Service - by a matter of a few months.

0:03:32 > 0:03:36- I've had work responsibilities - ever since the age of 16.

0:03:37 > 0:03:39- That's not necessarily good.

0:03:39 > 0:03:42- Everyone deserves some freedom.

0:03:42 > 0:03:46- Have certain individuals - influenced you in your career?

0:03:47 > 0:03:49- Oh, yes, at Teledu Cymru - for instance.

0:03:50 > 0:03:55- The gurus were T Glynne Davies - and John Roberts Williams.

0:03:55 > 0:04:00- Before then, at the Chronicle, - I recall Elfyn Hughes.

0:04:00 > 0:04:03- He wrote under his initials "CEH".

0:04:03 > 0:04:06- He looked like Methuselah to me.

0:04:06 > 0:04:08- He was probably about 80 years old.

0:04:08 > 0:04:13- He came from the previous century, - an old style Dickensian journalist.

0:04:13 > 0:04:17- You asked for this clip - of C Elfyn Hughes.

0:04:17 > 0:04:22- At the time, he was 82 years old - and you were interviewing him.

0:04:25 > 0:04:29- Looking back - at your lifetime in journalism...

0:04:29 > 0:04:31- ..what are your feelings today?

0:04:31 > 0:04:36- The big thing in journalism today...

0:04:37 > 0:04:39- ..is the story.

0:04:39 > 0:04:42- Nobody dwelled on that in the past.

0:04:42 > 0:04:44- Here's an example.

0:04:44 > 0:04:48- I was working for a newspaper - in a town up here in the north.

0:04:49 > 0:04:52- This is going back 50 years.

0:04:55 > 0:05:00- A cow escaped from a field.

0:05:01 > 0:05:03- Do you know where it went?

0:05:04 > 0:05:06- Into a nearby chapel.

0:05:06 > 0:05:10- The chapel door - had been left wide open.

0:05:10 > 0:05:15- The cow went into the chapel.

0:05:16 > 0:05:22- A curious thing about that event - was that not a single word...

0:05:23 > 0:05:29- ..appeared in local newspapers - about the cow in the chapel.

0:05:29 > 0:05:35- Today, journalists - and sub-editors...

0:05:37 > 0:05:40- ..would have created - prominent headlines.

0:05:40 > 0:05:43- An excellent tale would be penned...

0:05:43 > 0:05:48- ..about a cow that had entered - the temple of the saints.

0:05:50 > 0:05:55- Recognizing a good story - is essential, isn't it?

0:05:55 > 0:05:59- I remember losing out - on one of the biggest stories.

0:06:00 > 0:06:02- This is going back a while.

0:06:02 > 0:06:08- I think it was in 1959.

0:06:08 > 0:06:11- I was living in Tynygongl - on Anglesey.

0:06:12 > 0:06:16- I'd catch a bus from Benllech - to Bangor to work at the Chronicle.

0:06:16 > 0:06:21- One day, I heard talk on the bus - of a shipwreck near Moelfre.

0:06:21 > 0:06:23- I didn't pay too much attention.

0:06:24 > 0:06:27- This was the Hindlea, - which hit the rocks in Moelfre...

0:06:27 > 0:06:32- ..exactly a century - after the Royal Charter disaster.

0:06:32 > 0:06:37- I was at school in Amlwch with - the sons of Moelfre lifeboatmen.

0:06:37 > 0:06:42- There was often talk in school - about the lifeboat's missions.

0:06:42 > 0:06:44- I thought no more about it.

0:06:44 > 0:06:48- My journalistic initiative - ought to have told me...

0:06:49 > 0:06:53- ..to head for Moelfre - to land this great Hindlea scoop.

0:06:53 > 0:06:57- You moved from newsprint - to the screen.

0:06:58 > 0:07:00- What sort of transformation was it?

0:07:00 > 0:07:02- What sort of transformation was it?- - It was a gradual thing, in my case.

0:07:03 > 0:07:07- I came to Cardiff aged 20, - to be a Western Mail sub-editor.

0:07:07 > 0:07:10- Three months later, - I joined Teledu Cymru...

0:07:10 > 0:07:13- ..the old commercial channel, - which went bust.

0:07:14 > 0:07:17- Teledu Cymru only lasted 10 months.

0:07:17 > 0:07:23- I worked with T Glynne Davies - and John Roberts Williams.

0:07:23 > 0:07:27- Gradually, I began - to appear on screen.

0:07:27 > 0:07:29- There was no definite - starting point.

0:07:30 > 0:07:34- I never thought, "From tomorrow, - I'm a television reporter."

0:07:34 > 0:07:38- I did present the news - for Teledu Cymru on its last night.

0:07:39 > 0:07:41- You went on to travel the world.

0:07:41 > 0:07:45- Here's a clip - of your first foreign reporting job.

0:07:46 > 0:07:48- You were sent to Aden in 1967.

0:07:49 > 0:07:50- That goes back some way.

0:07:52 > 0:07:54- Aden is a real hole.

0:07:54 > 0:07:57- It's on the eastern side - of the Red Sea.

0:07:57 > 0:08:00- I've deliberately called it a hole.

0:08:00 > 0:08:04- That's literally - how best to describe part of it.

0:08:04 > 0:08:09- Over there, - beyond the mountains, is the Crater.

0:08:09 > 0:08:12- As the name suggests, - that part of town is built...

0:08:13 > 0:08:16- ..on the site of an old volcano.

0:08:16 > 0:08:19- It has been dormant for centuries.

0:08:20 > 0:08:22- Today's eruptions are different.

0:08:22 > 0:08:25- Those homes you see over there...

0:08:26 > 0:08:30- ..belong to British people - and other wealthy people in Aden.

0:08:30 > 0:08:36- Beneath me is Ma'alla Main, - now better known as Murder Mile.

0:08:39 > 0:08:44- They wouldn't let you stand there - in your shirtsleeves today.

0:08:44 > 0:08:48- Reporters are now trained, - and they wear flak jackets.

0:08:48 > 0:08:52- The only training I got - involved grenades.

0:08:52 > 0:08:57- If one was thrown at you, - hit the floor, feet facing it.

0:08:57 > 0:09:02- It's better to lose your legs than - your head and never throw it back.

0:09:02 > 0:09:06- Was it exciting - to go to somewhere like that?

0:09:06 > 0:09:11- Did you feel you had reached - the heights by being a war reporter?

0:09:11 > 0:09:15- Oh, yes. More recently than that, - I was in Beirut.

0:09:16 > 0:09:18- I was up in the mountains there.

0:09:18 > 0:09:22- I was with an American - who was wearing a Hawaiian shirt.

0:09:22 > 0:09:27- I was a bit gung-ho in my attire, - with chest pockets and epaulettes.

0:09:28 > 0:09:32- He said to me, "If you don't mind, - I won't walk with you."

0:09:32 > 0:09:36- His reason was that we might be - spied upon from across the valley.

0:09:37 > 0:09:41- He said that if shooting started, - they'd kill me and not him.

0:09:41 > 0:09:46- They wouldn't want to waste bullets - on some floral-shirted idiot!

0:09:47 > 0:09:49- He spoke a lot of sense.

0:09:49 > 0:09:51- In a war zone, - don't look like a soldier.

0:09:52 > 0:09:56- Trouble wasn't confined - to foreign lands.

0:09:56 > 0:09:59- There was unrest here in Wales.

0:09:59 > 0:10:04- The run-up to the Investiture - was a tumultuous time.

0:10:05 > 0:10:08- There was Mudiad Amddiffyn Cymru, - the FWA and others.

0:10:09 > 0:10:13- You didn't know who they all were, - and things moved so quickly.

0:10:13 > 0:10:18- We now have a clip showing you, - standing outside the tax office...

0:10:18 > 0:10:20- ..in the wake of a large explosion.

0:10:22 > 0:10:27- There's now no doubt whatsoever - that a bomb caused this explosion...

0:10:28 > 0:10:30- ..at the Inland Revenue - in Llanishen.

0:10:31 > 0:10:37- At 2.00am this Sunday morning, - a bang was heard for miles around.

0:10:37 > 0:10:42- A link can't be ruled out - between this explosion...

0:10:43 > 0:10:48- ..and the one late last year - at Cardiff's Temple of Peace.

0:10:49 > 0:10:52- Enquiries are continuing - in that respect...

0:10:52 > 0:10:54- ..and in all respects.

0:10:55 > 0:10:59- Many people are being questioned - in an attempt to find the culprits.

0:11:01 > 0:11:04- I was referring there - to the Temple of Peace.

0:11:04 > 0:11:07- I worked for HTV at that time.

0:11:07 > 0:11:12- My programme, Y Dydd, sent a crew, - as did Report Wales - duplication!

0:11:12 > 0:11:14- It wouldn't happen these days.

0:11:15 > 0:11:19- But only Y Dydd's film unit - was available at the time.

0:11:20 > 0:11:24- I was there with John Humphrys, - who's now world-famous of course.

0:11:25 > 0:11:28- John said, like this, - "I'll go first today."

0:11:28 > 0:11:30- And I said, "Why?"

0:11:30 > 0:11:33- "Well, we're the English programme."

0:11:33 > 0:11:36- As if it gave him - a stamp of authority.

0:11:37 > 0:11:41- I'm a placid guy, but I saw red - and punched him in the face.

0:11:41 > 0:11:44- We fell to the floor, - amidst all the mess.

0:11:44 > 0:11:49- The policemen were laughing - as they came towards us.

0:11:49 > 0:11:54- They'd come to catch bombers, - not to separate two reporters.

0:11:54 > 0:12:00- Amusingly, many years later, - I was back in Cardiff with the BBC.

0:12:01 > 0:12:04- I shared a desk with Beti George.

0:12:04 > 0:12:08- Who should walk into the newsroom - with the late Deryk Williams...

0:12:09 > 0:12:12- ..Deryk was a pal of mine, - a news producer...

0:12:12 > 0:12:15- ..but John Humphrys, - who came over for a chat.

0:12:15 > 0:12:18- He then went out again with Deryk.

0:12:18 > 0:12:22- I asked Beti, "Do you think - he remembers my punch?"

0:12:22 > 0:12:25- Apparently, - he raised this with Deryk.

0:12:25 > 0:12:29- He said, "I wonder if Gwyn - remembers the fight we had?"

0:12:30 > 0:12:33- John Humphrys stayed - in the world of hard news.

0:12:34 > 0:12:39- You followed a different path - by joining the Hel Straeon team.

0:12:40 > 0:12:44- Was it hard to change direction - and leave the news?

0:12:44 > 0:12:46- I didn't regret it at all.

0:12:46 > 0:12:48- To be honest, with the news...

0:12:49 > 0:12:55- ..you tend to pursue stories - which involve disputes or quarrels.

0:12:55 > 0:12:59- I've made more friends - with all my work subsequently.

0:12:59 > 0:13:02- But I must have missed - one aspect.

0:13:03 > 0:13:06- After being on Hel Straeon - for a few months...

0:13:06 > 0:13:08- ..I was feeling melancholic.

0:13:08 > 0:13:14- I'm not prone to depression, - but I didn't feel well in myself.

0:13:15 > 0:13:20- I remember chatting at length - to Dafydd Huws, the psychiatrist.

0:13:20 > 0:13:22- He said, "Good gracious!

0:13:22 > 0:13:27- "I knew someone who wanted to do - research work on people like you."

0:13:27 > 0:13:32- It seems that it affects pilots, - policemen, firemen and presenters.

0:13:32 > 0:13:37- When you have a shot of adrenalin, - and that leaves your system...

0:13:37 > 0:13:39- ..you can get this feeling.

0:13:39 > 0:13:42- Ever since, I've been alright!

0:13:42 > 0:13:45- In part two, - we'll travel abroad a bit...

0:13:45 > 0:13:49- ..and we'll see you - wandering the globe.

0:13:49 > 0:13:52- Don't go far. - Join us again in two minutes.

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0:14:10 > 0:14:14- Welcome back to Cofio - with Gwyn Llewelyn.

0:14:14 > 0:14:17- You've travelled far and wide - with your work.

0:14:17 > 0:14:19- Did you enjoy all that travelling?

0:14:19 > 0:14:22- Did you enjoy all that travelling?- - Very much so!

0:14:24 > 0:14:25- It was in my blood.

0:14:26 > 0:14:29- In fact, - I became worried at one stage.

0:14:30 > 0:14:34- There's a word - for an incessant desire to travel.

0:14:34 > 0:14:38- "Dromomania". - I think it affected me.

0:14:38 > 0:14:40- You don't want to be where you are.

0:14:41 > 0:14:44- I was on a Kenyan beach - with the film crew once.

0:14:44 > 0:14:47- In the sky, I could see - these white jet streams.

0:14:48 > 0:14:52- I said to the crew, - "Gosh, I'd like to be on that now."

0:14:52 > 0:14:54- That feeling's gone now.

0:14:54 > 0:15:00- I still like to go on holidays, - but the travel bug has gone now.

0:15:00 > 0:15:03- But you never liked sea travel?

0:15:04 > 0:15:06- I've had bad experiences sailing.

0:15:06 > 0:15:08- At one time, I'd sail a lot.

0:15:08 > 0:15:12- We took a boat from Cricieth, - Corwynt, on a race around Ireland.

0:15:13 > 0:15:15- I sailed with Richard Tudor...

0:15:15 > 0:15:19- ..prior to his two sailing trips - around the world.

0:15:19 > 0:15:20- There were some awful experiences!

0:15:20 > 0:15:22- There were some awful experiences!- - We'll see you suffering now.

0:15:35 > 0:15:38- At two o'clock this morning, - it's Tuesday, I think...

0:15:39 > 0:15:41- ..I was up on duty...

0:15:42 > 0:15:48- ..but the sheer effort - of putting on heavy clothes...

0:15:48 > 0:15:50- ..down here in this heat...

0:15:50 > 0:15:52- ..got the better of me.

0:15:52 > 0:15:55- When I reached the deck...

0:15:58 > 0:16:01- ..I was ill for the first time - since we started.

0:16:02 > 0:16:05- A fierce wind was raging by then.

0:16:05 > 0:16:08- We were sailing hard through it.

0:16:10 > 0:16:14- At least that's behind us, - but we're now heading into the wind.

0:16:15 > 0:16:20- That has made the boat's movements - go from bad to worse.

0:16:21 > 0:16:25- I'm afraid I shall be here - until the wind subsides...

0:16:25 > 0:16:27- ..with a bucket by my side.

0:16:31 > 0:16:33- Painful memories!

0:16:33 > 0:16:37- Heledd, that was after - what I thought had been a day.

0:16:38 > 0:16:42- I was then told I had been - out of it for almost two days.

0:16:42 > 0:16:46- When I came round, I had no feeling - in the lower half of my body.

0:16:47 > 0:16:49- I thought I was paralysed.

0:16:49 > 0:16:54- The boys had changed shift, - with water going everywhere.

0:16:54 > 0:16:58- They'd thrown their "heavyweathers" - on top of me.

0:16:58 > 0:17:01- With the weight, I couldn't move!

0:17:01 > 0:17:03- You were unconscious for two days.

0:17:04 > 0:17:07- So I was told, yes - - it was a horrific experience.

0:17:07 > 0:17:11- You were a pro to do that link.

0:17:11 > 0:17:16- You didn't see the camera tilting - towards my bucket, thank goodness.

0:17:16 > 0:17:19- Yes, I'm quite glad of that too!

0:17:19 > 0:17:24- You also travelled a lot - for your series Gwyn A'i Fyd.

0:17:24 > 0:17:28- You were the Welsh Alan Whicker - or David Attenborough.

0:17:28 > 0:17:33- It was a great experience, - visiting 30 different countries.

0:17:33 > 0:17:35- We did three series in all.

0:17:35 > 0:17:40- We were looking - for interesting Welsh people abroad.

0:17:41 > 0:17:43- Amazingly, we kept finding them!

0:17:43 > 0:17:47- I still keep in touch - with two or three of them.

0:17:47 > 0:17:50- It was a most enjoyable time.

0:17:50 > 0:17:55- You spent a lot of time - with other people back then.

0:17:55 > 0:17:57- You were with the crew on the boat.

0:17:57 > 0:18:01- However, you describe yourself - as a private person.

0:18:02 > 0:18:05- Was it hard to live with others - in such conditions?

0:18:05 > 0:18:08- I'm fine with people - that I know well.

0:18:09 > 0:18:11- I've no background in public life.

0:18:11 > 0:18:15- I didn't sing or recite - or anything like that as a child.

0:18:16 > 0:18:19- I was an only child, - raised in Tynygongl on Anglesey.

0:18:20 > 0:18:22- There weren't many - children of my age there.

0:18:22 > 0:18:27- I'm probably more of a loner - than I'd want to be, if I'm honest.

0:18:27 > 0:18:30- I'm fine with my friends.

0:18:31 > 0:18:36- I'll avoid crowds - if I think they'll know me.

0:18:36 > 0:18:39- Are you ill at ease - if people come up to you?

0:18:39 > 0:18:42- I can handle it perfectly well.

0:18:42 > 0:18:46- You wouldn't think - there was any problem.

0:18:46 > 0:18:50- Avoiding the contact altogether - would be my inclination...

0:18:50 > 0:18:52- ..if I thought it might happen.

0:18:53 > 0:18:56- I've never been comfortable with it.

0:18:56 > 0:18:59- We have an exotic clip - from Gwyn A'i Fyd.

0:19:10 > 0:19:14- There's no natural fresh water - on the Galapagos Islands.

0:19:14 > 0:19:17- As in dry places - elsewhere in the world...

0:19:17 > 0:19:20- ..animals have adapted accordingly.

0:19:21 > 0:19:24- And yet, if you spit - on the palm of your hand...

0:19:24 > 0:19:28- ..the birds around me - are very appreciative.

0:19:28 > 0:19:30- They come from all directions.

0:19:39 > 0:19:42- You must learn a lot - doing programmes like that.

0:19:42 > 0:19:44- You have to do your research.

0:19:44 > 0:19:48- You do that, - but I've heard others say this too.

0:19:48 > 0:19:50- You cram in a great deal quickly...

0:19:50 > 0:19:55- ..and learn a fair amount - about some pretty obscure topics.

0:19:55 > 0:19:59- Unfortunately, it goes in one ear - and out the other!

0:19:59 > 0:20:04- I wish I'd managed to hold on - to more of the information.

0:20:05 > 0:20:07- It's a transient thing.

0:20:07 > 0:20:11- That's the difference - between broadcasting and writing.

0:20:12 > 0:20:16- If you put something in print, - it'll survive after you.

0:20:16 > 0:20:20- In our game, it's gone - almost as soon as it's absorbed!

0:20:20 > 0:20:25- We've seen you travelling - quite a bit in tonight's show.

0:20:25 > 0:20:28- You're a petrolhead too.

0:20:28 > 0:20:31- Why do you like cars?

0:20:31 > 0:20:34- It's just as well that I do.

0:20:34 > 0:20:39- For seven years, I drove weekly - between north and south Wales.

0:20:39 > 0:20:42- That's when I was with the BBC.

0:20:42 > 0:20:47- People were forever complaining - about the A470.

0:20:48 > 0:20:52- I enjoyed travelling along it, - but I knew it well.

0:20:52 > 0:20:57- If I gave people lifts at night, - and cut corners, they'd tense up!

0:20:58 > 0:21:02- I was familiar with the road - and knew there was nothing coming.

0:21:02 > 0:21:05- Let's see you in action.

0:21:07 > 0:21:12- There was an element - of doing something that I loved...

0:21:13 > 0:21:16- ..and then trying to convince others - that they would like it.

0:21:17 > 0:21:22- In one motoring series, - I drove Aston Martins and Jaguars.

0:21:24 > 0:21:28- I drove them for a week - and enjoyed it immensely.

0:21:36 > 0:21:40- Only one British car - now sells for less than 1,000.

0:21:40 > 0:21:44- You'd get 2 back from that 1,000 - if you bought the Hillman Imp.

0:21:45 > 0:21:51- For 898, you could buy this car, - the cheapest car in the show.

0:21:51 > 0:21:54- The Citroen Deux Chevaux, - the Citroen 2CV.

0:21:54 > 0:21:58- It's on sale in Britain - for the first time in many years.

0:21:58 > 0:22:03- This car is making its debut - in Britain today.

0:22:03 > 0:22:05- The Volkswagen Golf.

0:22:05 > 0:22:09- It's on the market for 1,300.

0:22:09 > 0:22:13- Every year, manufacturers roll out - the fastest, most expensive...

0:22:14 > 0:22:16- ..and most luxurious cars - at the show.

0:22:16 > 0:22:21- This year, this is the fastest - - the Ferrari GT4 Berlinetta Boxer.

0:22:23 > 0:22:25- Is the Ferrari on top of your list?

0:22:25 > 0:22:27- Is the Ferrari on top of your list?- - No, not really.

0:22:27 > 0:22:32- I remember the first brand new car - I bought was 500.

0:22:32 > 0:22:38- I was a regular visitor - to the Motor Show.

0:22:38 > 0:22:40- Interesting times.

0:22:40 > 0:22:44- We've seen a cross-section - of everything you've done.

0:22:45 > 0:22:48- You've had so many different - experiences.

0:22:48 > 0:22:52- Why haven't you published - an autobiography?

0:22:52 > 0:22:54- You're not the first to ask.

0:22:54 > 0:22:57- I've been asked three times - to write one.

0:22:57 > 0:22:59- I don't know.

0:22:59 > 0:23:02- I've had so many - interesting experiences.

0:23:03 > 0:23:06- They've been interesting for me - - I've enjoyed them.

0:23:06 > 0:23:09- Would they be interesting - for others?

0:23:09 > 0:23:14- I don't think an autobiography - can be completely honest.

0:23:15 > 0:23:18- I like to speak my mind.

0:23:19 > 0:23:23- I fear I would upset a few people - if I wrote an autobiography.

0:23:23 > 0:23:25- Perhaps I'm just lazy!

0:23:25 > 0:23:28- I mentioned that you were retired.

0:23:28 > 0:23:31- Enjoy your retirement.

0:23:31 > 0:23:35- Who knows what the future holds - for Gwyn Llewelyn?

0:23:36 > 0:23:38- Thank you for your company.

0:23:39 > 0:23:40- That's all for tonight.

0:23:40 > 0:23:44- I'll be back next week - for another trip down memory lane.

0:23:45 > 0:23:46- Until then, goodnight.

0:23:52 > 0:23:56- # Remember

0:24:02 > 0:24:05- # Remember #

0:24:08 > 0:24:10- S4C Subtitles by Simian 04 Cyf.

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