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0:00:29 > 0:00:32- Hello and welcome to Cofio...
0:00:32 > 0:00:37- ..where we take a trip down memory - lane with some familiar faces.
0:00:37 > 0:00:43- One of Wales's most famous actors - is reminiscing tonight.
0:00:43 > 0:00:47- A warm welcome to you, John Ogwen. - Do you still keep busy?
0:00:47 > 0:00:49- I do a little here and there.
0:00:49 > 0:00:51- I enjoy writing and...
0:00:51 > 0:00:53- Yes, I'm still around.
0:00:54 > 0:00:57- Going from strength to strength.
0:00:57 > 0:01:00- As well as your actual career...
0:01:00 > 0:01:05- ..you could have followed an - alternative career, using your feet.
0:01:05 > 0:01:07- I'd have liked that.
0:01:07 > 0:01:10- I wanted to be a footballer.
0:01:12 > 0:01:15- That would have been wonderful - back in the day.
0:01:15 > 0:01:20- Having said that, I'm not sure - I would have been successful.
0:01:20 > 0:01:25- At the time, when I was younger, - I wasn't a bad player.
0:01:25 > 0:01:28- Did you start playing as a young lad?
0:01:28 > 0:01:30- I played in the village.
0:01:30 > 0:01:33- We didn't have computers back then.
0:01:33 > 0:01:38- We spent our time out in the fields, - kicking a ball.
0:01:38 > 0:01:40- We'd play cricket in the summer.
0:01:40 > 0:01:43- I enjoy all sports.
0:01:44 > 0:01:46- We start - with a football clip tonight.
0:01:46 > 0:01:50- It's a famous match - that many people remember.
0:01:51 > 0:01:55- One of the greatest shocks - in European football...
0:01:55 > 0:01:56- ..happened in Bangor.
0:02:41 > 0:02:44- I'm joined by Iorys Griffiths, - Bangor's centre-back.
0:02:44 > 0:02:47- Congratulations on your victory, - Iorys.
0:02:48 > 0:02:50- What did you think of Napoli?
0:02:50 > 0:02:54- They were a good team but - they weren't as good as I expected.
0:02:54 > 0:03:00- They played well for 15-20 minutes - but they fell away after that.
0:03:09 > 0:03:14- The Napoli players were shocked to - see supporters running on the pitch.
0:03:14 > 0:03:19- After the match, we all went - to the Plaza Cinema in Bangor...
0:03:19 > 0:03:25- ..and sat watching a film twice - to see the Pathe News twice.
0:03:25 > 0:03:30- We wanted to relive the great moment - when a small team from Wales...
0:03:30 > 0:03:33- ..conquered the Italian giants, 2-0.
0:03:33 > 0:03:38- Bangor lost in Italy but they - played a third match in Highbury...
0:03:38 > 0:03:40- ..and lost that match, 3-1.
0:03:41 > 0:03:42- Describe the atmosphere.
0:03:42 > 0:03:44- Describe the atmosphere.- - Amazing.
0:03:45 > 0:03:48- I was standing - in front of one of the cameras.
0:03:48 > 0:03:50- Napoli were a great side.
0:03:50 > 0:03:55- Strangely enough, manager Tommy - Jones died about two years ago.
0:03:55 > 0:03:58- The captain who scored that penalty, - Ken Birch...
0:03:59 > 0:04:01- ..paid tribute to him - in the funeral.
0:04:01 > 0:04:04- It was so funny - - he had a Liverpool accent!
0:04:05 > 0:04:09- He said, "I only saw Tommy worried - once. That was against Naples.
0:04:09 > 0:04:12- "They wanted our shirts - and we only had one set!"
0:04:15 > 0:04:20- Ken Birch's memories made us - all laugh in the crematorium.
0:04:22 > 0:04:23- Iorys is your cousin.
0:04:23 > 0:04:25- Iorys is your cousin.- - Yes, he is.
0:04:25 > 0:04:29- He was a hero of mine - - and still is.
0:04:29 > 0:04:31- He's still a hero.
0:04:31 > 0:04:36- He's a few years older than me - but a lot fitter.
0:04:38 > 0:04:41- The fact was, I had a cousin - playing in that match.
0:04:42 > 0:04:47- I had a cousin playing for Bangor. - Two local lads played for the team.
0:04:47 > 0:04:51- Len Davies, the goalkeeper, - had moved to live in the area.
0:04:52 > 0:04:56- All the other players - eventually settled around Bangor.
0:04:56 > 0:05:01- It was an excellent team - - excellent during that period.
0:05:01 > 0:05:05- Those players would play - at a higher level today.
0:05:05 > 0:05:11- They make a lot of fuss - about players with long throw-ins.
0:05:11 > 0:05:15- Wilkinson and Birch used to do that - in the 1960s in Bangor.
0:05:15 > 0:05:18- There's nothing new in that!
0:05:18 > 0:05:22- They're recycling old skills! - You often meet Iorys.
0:05:22 > 0:05:26- Next, we have a wonderful clip - of Menai Bridge...
0:05:26 > 0:05:28- ..which dates back almost 70 years.
0:05:29 > 0:05:32- It's 1940 - the year - the toll-free bridge was opened.
0:06:23 > 0:06:26- You often walk across that bridge.
0:06:27 > 0:06:29- I often meet my cousin Iorys there.
0:06:29 > 0:06:33- He's had a new hip and he walks - a mile and a half every day...
0:06:34 > 0:06:36- ..across the bridge and back.
0:06:37 > 0:06:41- Since giving up smoking, I walk - to try and keep my weight down.
0:06:41 > 0:06:45- I walk a lot more than I used to. - We meet each other on the bridge.
0:06:46 > 0:06:49- It's a beautiful bridge.
0:06:49 > 0:06:53- I was walking back from Anglesey - last week and the sun had set.
0:06:53 > 0:06:56- The bridge was lit up beautifully.
0:06:56 > 0:07:00- It's such a simple design - for a bridge.
0:07:02 > 0:07:05- It's the same now as it's ever been.
0:07:05 > 0:07:08- It's iconic in its appearance.
0:07:08 > 0:07:12- You gave up smoking - about three or four months ago...
0:07:12 > 0:07:15- ..after smoking for 40 years.
0:07:15 > 0:07:16- How's it going?
0:07:16 > 0:07:18- How's it going?- - Terrible!
0:07:19 > 0:07:21- It's a success so far.
0:07:21 > 0:07:24- I don't think - I'll ever say I've given up.
0:07:25 > 0:07:27- Who knows what will happen?
0:07:27 > 0:07:29- I'm rather proud of myself - right now.
0:07:30 > 0:07:32- You're one who likes to keep fit.
0:07:32 > 0:07:34- You used to have - a good pair of fists.
0:07:35 > 0:07:39- I used to box when I was in school.
0:07:39 > 0:07:41- I enjoyed boxing.
0:07:42 > 0:07:46- My father liked boxing, - so did Tom, my father-in-law...
0:07:46 > 0:07:50- ..and we all talked at length - about boxing.
0:07:50 > 0:07:54- My father never came to watch me - playing football...
0:07:54 > 0:07:56- ..but he'd watch me box.
0:07:57 > 0:08:00- Boxing was everything - for Uncle Huw and Uncle Bob.
0:08:00 > 0:08:02- Boxing, during that era...
0:08:03 > 0:08:07- ..was more important - than football and rugby...
0:08:07 > 0:08:09- ..especially in Wales.
0:08:09 > 0:08:13- We had a few great boxers - - and still have good boxers.
0:08:13 > 0:08:17- As it happens, we have a clip - of one of your heroes now.
0:08:18 > 0:08:22- Joe Erskine from Cardiff, the former - British Heavyweight Champion...
0:08:22 > 0:08:26- ..being trained by Archie Rule - from the Amman Valley.
0:08:27 > 0:08:30- The greatest of all was Joe Erskine.
0:08:30 > 0:08:34- Archie Rule realized - when he started training Erskine...
0:08:34 > 0:08:36- ..that he had a boxer - with a very quick brain.
0:08:37 > 0:08:39- He trained a champion - right from the start.
0:08:39 > 0:08:41- I'd go in at 6.00am.
0:08:42 > 0:08:45- "Come on, Joe." - I was used to getting up early.
0:08:45 > 0:08:47- "Come on, Joe."
0:08:47 > 0:08:50- He'd run up Caerphilly Mountain.
0:08:51 > 0:08:54- That's the run he used to do.
0:08:54 > 0:08:59- Up he'd go, passing a farm - called The Ranch on the right.
0:08:59 > 0:09:03- Then he'd continue up, - passing the lime works.
0:09:03 > 0:09:05- We'd be back before 7.00am.
0:09:05 > 0:09:10- Into the bath he'd go, a quick - massage and back to bed until nine.
0:09:11 > 0:09:14- Then he'd run down - to train in the afternoon.
0:09:14 > 0:09:18- Archie Rule taught him - everything he knows about boxing.
0:09:18 > 0:09:23- He trained him hard remembering how - it paid dividends in his own career.
0:09:24 > 0:09:26- You met him once.
0:09:27 > 0:09:29- Well, yes.
0:09:29 > 0:09:33- Tom, my father-in-law, and I - were out in Cardiff one night.
0:09:33 > 0:09:39- I can't remember precisely - where we were, a club in the city.
0:09:39 > 0:09:42- Joe Erskine was the bouncer - on the door.
0:09:42 > 0:09:45- My father-in-law - recognized him immediately.
0:09:45 > 0:09:47- "Mr Erskine..." And that was it.
0:09:47 > 0:09:51- They sat together in the doorway - talking about boxing.
0:09:54 > 0:09:56- He was a very, very amiable man - and a great boxer.
0:09:57 > 0:10:00- My father-in-law met him - a few times after that.
0:10:00 > 0:10:04- You often see the more human side - behind the public mask.
0:10:04 > 0:10:09- Discipline was so important. Was - discipline the attraction for you?
0:10:10 > 0:10:13- It was done brilliantly - - that was the attraction.
0:10:13 > 0:10:16- You're attracted to something - if it's done well.
0:10:16 > 0:10:20- I can't dance at all - but I appreciate it being done well.
0:10:20 > 0:10:24- You can respect the art. We turn now - to something more humorous.
0:10:25 > 0:10:29- I know you're also - very keen on rugby.
0:10:29 > 0:10:32- This sketch takes us back to 1973.
0:11:30 > 0:11:33- If at first you don't succeed...!
0:11:33 > 0:11:37- In those days, people tried - to get in without paying.
0:11:37 > 0:11:41- On the day, Robin Griffith, - the actor, and I were arrested.
0:11:41 > 0:11:45- Robin wasn't a real policeman - in the sketch.
0:11:45 > 0:11:48- He'd dressed up - to get in for free too.
0:11:49 > 0:11:50- I see.
0:11:50 > 0:11:52- I see.- - Two men were watching us filming.
0:11:52 > 0:11:56- Suddenly, they got out of their car - and arrested us.
0:11:56 > 0:11:59- They were two - plain clothes policemen.
0:11:59 > 0:12:03- They asked if we had permission - to dress up as a policeman.
0:12:04 > 0:12:06- They arrested us.
0:12:08 > 0:12:12- The story found its way - into the Sunday Express.
0:12:12 > 0:12:13- In the end...
0:12:13 > 0:12:18- ..the police realized - that if they took us to court...
0:12:18 > 0:12:23- ..they would have looked so stupid - so they dropped the charges.
0:12:23 > 0:12:27- Robin was arrested - for impersonating a police officer.
0:12:27 > 0:12:30- I was arrested - for aiding and abetting!
0:12:31 > 0:12:37- Robin and I were good friends in - college - we're still good friends.
0:12:37 > 0:12:39- The memories are flooding back.
0:12:40 > 0:12:42- All sorts of mixed emotions.
0:12:42 > 0:12:46- I noticed that the BBC and HTV - were involved.
0:12:46 > 0:12:48- Keeping in with both sides.
0:12:48 > 0:12:54- It's been difficult to choose - one clip of you at work as an actor.
0:12:54 > 0:12:59- We'll see one of your most memorable - performances after the break.
0:12:59 > 0:13:02- We'll be back in about two minutes.
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0:13:20 > 0:13:26- Welcome back. I've been joined - by actor John Ogwen tonight.
0:13:26 > 0:13:28- You've chosen this next clip.
0:13:29 > 0:13:31- It's a clip of you - acting with your wife.
0:13:32 > 0:13:36- Why is the next scene - so important to you?
0:13:36 > 0:13:41- It's a production of Tywyll Heno, an - adaptation of Kate Roberts's novel.
0:13:41 > 0:13:45- It's one of which I'm most proud - for several reasons.
0:13:45 > 0:13:50- It was one of the first television - projects Maureen and I did together.
0:13:50 > 0:13:52- The response was phenomenal...
0:13:52 > 0:13:56- ..greater than anything else - we'd done for television.
0:13:58 > 0:14:03- Curiously, Maureen chose - the extract we're about to watch.
0:14:03 > 0:14:05- The character she played - Bet...
0:14:05 > 0:14:09- ..was fond of Williams Parry's - sonnet - Dinas Noddfa.
0:14:10 > 0:14:12- Maureen is also fond of the sonnet.
0:14:13 > 0:14:14- Let's watch the clip.
0:14:32 > 0:14:35- Read Dinas Noddfa to me, Gruff.
0:14:45 > 0:14:48- "When the stars - cause your blood to shiver
0:14:48 > 0:14:51- "And shake your beliefs like leaves
0:14:52 > 0:14:55- "When the night feels the earth - from which you were created
0:14:56 > 0:14:59- "And its fears - search the substance to the core
0:15:00 > 0:15:03- "Or when you listen - to the sorrowful rhyme of the sea
0:15:04 > 0:15:07- "Which murmurs darkly - its enchanting grievance
0:15:07 > 0:15:11- "And the wind swirls - around your door
0:15:11 > 0:15:15- "Hoarsely through trees, - lisping through bushes
0:15:15 > 0:15:18- "Follow the wise - and to you a fort will rise
0:15:19 > 0:15:23- "Where you will find refuge - from its mighty oppression
0:15:23 > 0:15:26- "As lord of your nothingness
0:15:26 > 0:15:28- "And architect of your own heaven
0:15:28 > 0:15:34- "Or follow him - when he builds a temple
0:15:34 > 0:15:36- "Not by hand
0:15:36 > 0:15:38- "But above the wonders of nature
0:15:39 > 0:15:41- "And beyond"
0:15:46 > 0:15:48- That obviously touched you.
0:15:48 > 0:15:49- Yes, yes.
0:15:49 > 0:15:53- It was an opportunity - for you to work with your wife.
0:15:53 > 0:15:56- It was one of the early projects - we did together.
0:15:56 > 0:15:59- We've worked together a lot - since then.
0:15:59 > 0:16:03- Maureen wrote the scripts - for R Williams Parry...
0:16:03 > 0:16:05- ..W J Gruffydd - and T H Parry-Williams.
0:16:06 > 0:16:09- I portrayed the poets - and she wrote the scripts.
0:16:09 > 0:16:14- But that was a special piece of work - as everything came together.
0:16:14 > 0:16:17- David Lyn was directing - for the first time...
0:16:17 > 0:16:20- ..Dafydd Hobson was the cameraman...
0:16:20 > 0:16:24- ..and all the cast and crew - enjoyed the experience.
0:16:24 > 0:16:27- Yes, I'm very proud of that.
0:16:27 > 0:16:30- We'll lighten the mood now - by featuring comedy.
0:16:30 > 0:16:34- We'll hear about your interest - in one particular bird in a moment.
0:16:35 > 0:16:39- Do you remember this star - who looked after another bird?
0:16:45 > 0:16:49- # "Where are you going?" - asked Dibyn to Dobyn
0:16:49 > 0:16:53- # "Where are you going?" - asked Richard to Robin
0:16:53 > 0:16:55- # "Where are you going?" asked Don
0:16:56 > 0:17:00- # "Where are you going?" - asked the never beyond #
0:17:03 > 0:17:05- Olgan Bowen, a Viking...
0:17:05 > 0:17:11- ..roaming the Carmarthenshire - countryside isn't a common sight.
0:17:11 > 0:17:13- How did it start?
0:17:13 > 0:17:17- A friend of mine gave me four hawks - about four years ago.
0:17:17 > 0:17:20- I've taken a keen interest - in hawking since then.
0:17:20 > 0:17:24- The bird you've released - is going off to hunt, is it?
0:17:24 > 0:17:26- I wouldn't say it's hunting.
0:17:26 > 0:17:29- It hasn't been trained to hunt.
0:17:29 > 0:17:32- It's just gone for a short flight.
0:17:33 > 0:17:36- What have you taught it so far?
0:17:36 > 0:17:40- I've taught it - to fly to my hand to feed.
0:17:40 > 0:17:43- It can fly - to and from my hand or the shed.
0:17:43 > 0:17:48- It doesn't jump on anyone else - - it listens to what I say.
0:17:48 > 0:17:52- Tell me something - about the clothes you're wearing.
0:17:52 > 0:17:54- It's something I made myself.
0:17:55 > 0:17:59- Your name - Olgan Bowen - - sounds like a Viking name.
0:17:59 > 0:18:01- Is there a connection?
0:18:01 > 0:18:05- Some people say there is. - I'm not so sure but it suits me.
0:18:09 > 0:18:11- Everyone used to dress like that!
0:18:11 > 0:18:13- Excellent.
0:18:13 > 0:18:16- Why choose a clip about birds?
0:18:16 > 0:18:21- I have a friend, a red robin, - that lives in our garden.
0:18:21 > 0:18:23- We're great friends.
0:18:23 > 0:18:27- It speaks to me, literally.
0:18:27 > 0:18:31- If I'm out in the garden, - sweeping up leaves...
0:18:31 > 0:18:35- ..it knows I may uncover worms - so it lands next to me.
0:18:35 > 0:18:37- If I uncover a worm for the robin...
0:18:38 > 0:18:42- ..it whistles to me - and we have a little chat.
0:18:43 > 0:18:47- If I'm not out, it'll come - to the door to wait for me.
0:18:47 > 0:18:52- If I'm out in the garden for an hour - and a half, it stays with me.
0:18:52 > 0:18:54- How long has this been going on?
0:18:54 > 0:18:56- How long has this been going on?- - I wouldn't like to say!
0:18:56 > 0:18:59- For many years, to be honest.
0:18:59 > 0:19:04- It makes its nest right by the door. - It knows I know where it is.
0:19:05 > 0:19:08- I understand - the language of robins now.
0:19:08 > 0:19:13- If I returned to this world, - I'd come back as a robin.
0:19:13 > 0:19:16- I wouldn't have to learn - the language - I'm fluent already!
0:19:17 > 0:19:22- We finish the programme with another - giant of the Ogwen Valley...
0:19:23 > 0:19:26- ..and another one of your idols - - Caradog Prichard.
0:19:29 > 0:19:33- # A long time ago
0:19:33 > 0:19:37- # A long time ago
0:19:38 > 0:19:42- # Dear Caradog's - not what he used to be
0:19:43 > 0:19:47- # A long time ago #
0:19:47 > 0:19:50- Since you're moving - to live in Bethesda...
0:19:50 > 0:19:54- ..can we expect another book - like Un Nos Ola Leuad?
0:19:54 > 0:19:56- I sincerely hope so.
0:19:58 > 0:20:02- I hope I can write - another one like it.
0:20:03 > 0:20:04- We all hope so too.
0:20:04 > 0:20:06- We all hope so too.- - I'll give it a go.
0:20:06 > 0:20:08- Let's have another song.
0:20:09 > 0:20:11- Gorllwyn, get us all going.
0:20:12 > 0:20:17- # It's not always a bed of roses
0:20:18 > 0:20:22- # And here's what bothers - our home town
0:20:23 > 0:20:27- # And here's what bothers - our home town
0:20:27 > 0:20:30- # William Morgan's sheep
0:20:31 > 0:20:35- # William Morgan's sheep
0:20:36 > 0:20:41- # William Morgan's flock of sheep #
0:20:42 > 0:20:45- Let me first applaud - the four-voice rendition.
0:20:46 > 0:20:50- That must have been quite a moment - for you, to meet Caradog Prichard.
0:20:51 > 0:20:54- Un Nos Ola Leuad - was published when I was in school.
0:20:54 > 0:20:58- We'd organized a tribute night - to Caradog Prichard.
0:20:58 > 0:20:59- I was in the sixth form.
0:21:00 > 0:21:04- I was sitting on the pulpit with - the moonlight shining down on me.
0:21:04 > 0:21:06- Gwenlyn Parry was directing.
0:21:06 > 0:21:08- Three young boys sat in front of me.
0:21:09 > 0:21:13- He was sitting in the deacons' seat. - I could see his face.
0:21:13 > 0:21:16- He had a beaming smile - and tears rolled down his cheeks.
0:21:17 > 0:21:19- That was Un Nos Ola Leuad.
0:21:19 > 0:21:23- You could cry when you laughed - and laugh when you cried.
0:21:23 > 0:21:25- It's a wonderful novel.
0:21:25 > 0:21:28- Maureen and I - made a tribute programme...
0:21:28 > 0:21:31- ..during the Lliw Valley Eisteddfod.
0:21:31 > 0:21:36- I remember the response - when Maureen spoke the line...
0:21:36 > 0:21:41- ..about his mother being in - a mental hospital from 1922 to 1959.
0:21:42 > 0:21:44- We didn't actually say 37 years.
0:21:44 > 0:21:47- When Maureen spoke that line...
0:21:47 > 0:21:53- ..you could hear the audience gasp - as they worked out the sums.
0:21:53 > 0:21:56- She'd been in a mental hospital - for 37 years.
0:21:56 > 0:22:02- We then staged a theatre production - of Un Nos Ola Leuad.
0:22:02 > 0:22:04- Six of us went on tour.
0:22:04 > 0:22:09- We had to do three performances - a day in Bangor due to the demand.
0:22:09 > 0:22:12- I recall arriving in south Wales...
0:22:12 > 0:22:16- ..for the first performance - staged in Treorchy.
0:22:16 > 0:22:19- We performed the choir scene...
0:22:19 > 0:22:23- ..where Gwyn Vaughan, Wyn - Bowen Harries, Grey Evans and I...
0:22:23 > 0:22:26- ..sang in harmony on the stage.
0:22:26 > 0:22:29- The audience joined in with us.
0:22:29 > 0:22:31- Really?
0:22:32 > 0:22:36- They even repeated the hymn - while we were on stage.
0:22:36 > 0:22:41- An audience of 700 in Treorchy - singing part of the production.
0:22:41 > 0:22:42- We were astonished.
0:22:43 > 0:22:44- You couldn't have organized that.
0:22:44 > 0:22:47- You couldn't have organized that.- - It took us a while to get over it.
0:22:49 > 0:22:52- Something similar happened elsewhere - too.
0:22:52 > 0:22:55- When we performed - in the Lliw Valley...
0:22:55 > 0:23:00- ..Maureen's line was "I turn back - to God, the God you don't know."
0:23:00 > 0:23:02- The audience gasped.
0:23:02 > 0:23:05- That's what's so incredible - about the novel.
0:23:05 > 0:23:10- There's plenty of humour in it but - there's an undercurrent of sorrow.
0:23:10 > 0:23:13- Laughter and tears - are never far apart.
0:23:13 > 0:23:18- Thank you for joining me. - It's been a journey of adventure.
0:23:18 > 0:23:22- There was joy and heartache - along the way.
0:23:22 > 0:23:25- That's it until next time. - Goodbye.
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