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0:00:10 > 0:00:12- # Remember

0:00:20 > 0:00:22- # Remember #

0:00:26 > 0:00:30- Good evening and welcome - to another trip down memory lane.

0:00:30 > 0:00:33- With me is a singer and actress...

0:00:33 > 0:00:37- ..who has graced our screens - for over 50 years.

0:00:37 > 0:00:41- The girl from Brynsiencyn - who has enchanted us so often.

0:00:41 > 0:00:44- A very warm welcome to you, - Margaret Williams.

0:00:44 > 0:00:45- Thank you, Heledd.

0:00:45 > 0:00:47- Thank you, Heledd.- - Half a century.

0:00:47 > 0:00:49- Hush, please!

0:00:49 > 0:00:53- It's been a varied - and successful career.

0:00:53 > 0:00:57- What's the secret? - Is there a secret?

0:00:57 > 0:01:01- Not at all. - I do what I did as a little girl.

0:01:02 > 0:01:05- I sing - that's my life. - It's what I used to do.

0:01:05 > 0:01:07- I guess I've kept on doing it.

0:01:08 > 0:01:11- No real plan then, - you just followed your heart.

0:01:12 > 0:01:14- Yes. That's it.

0:01:14 > 0:01:18- I sometimes think I would have liked - to have had a plan...

0:01:18 > 0:01:21- ..which I could have followed...

0:01:21 > 0:01:25- ..and yet, I'm not sure - how that would have worked.

0:01:25 > 0:01:28- It's not really me, - I'm not an organized person.

0:01:28 > 0:01:30- I've just done what I used to do.

0:01:31 > 0:01:37- We start tonight with an iconic - image of Margaret Williams.

0:01:37 > 0:01:42- I think most people will remember you - in the famous wicker chair.

0:01:45 > 0:01:49- # Though her words

0:01:49 > 0:01:52- # Are simple and few

0:01:52 > 0:01:57- # Listen, listen

0:01:57 > 0:02:01- # She's calling to you

0:02:01 > 0:02:04- # Feed the birds

0:02:04 > 0:02:08- # Tuppence a bag

0:02:08 > 0:02:13- # Tuppence, tuppence

0:02:13 > 0:02:18- # Tuppence a bag

0:02:27 > 0:02:31- # A spoonful of sugar - helps the medicine go down

0:02:32 > 0:02:35- # The medicine go down, - the medicine go down

0:02:36 > 0:02:39- # Just a spoonful of sugar - helps the medicine go down

0:02:40 > 0:02:44- # In the most delightful way #

0:02:44 > 0:02:46- APPLAUSE

0:02:53 > 0:02:56- Can I use the word "stunning" there?

0:02:56 > 0:02:58- Who was she?

0:02:58 > 0:03:03- It was true entertainment, - with a full orchestra behind you.

0:03:03 > 0:03:06- I think that was - the first orchestra we had.

0:03:06 > 0:03:12- A family show that brought glamour - and entertainment into the home.

0:03:12 > 0:03:16- It's an important tradition - that has never gone out of fashion.

0:03:16 > 0:03:21- I don't think it has. And maybe, - it's even more prevalent today.

0:03:21 > 0:03:25- There was a period when the trend - leaned towards the folk style.

0:03:27 > 0:03:33- Today, I think the glamour - and that style is making a comeback.

0:03:34 > 0:03:36- How important has image been to you?

0:03:37 > 0:03:41- It's been an integral part - of your performances and career.

0:03:41 > 0:03:46- I wouldn't sing in a concert - wearing jeans and a t-shirt.

0:03:47 > 0:03:50- I wouldn't sing in a concert - dressed like this.

0:03:50 > 0:03:53- I'm used to the long dresses.

0:03:53 > 0:03:56- It depends on the style of singing.

0:03:56 > 0:04:00- If I sang folk music, - I'd dress entirely differently.

0:04:00 > 0:04:05- Let's return to your roots - in Brynsiencyn.

0:04:06 > 0:04:10- Fortunately, a local doctor, - Dr John Glyn Jones...

0:04:11 > 0:04:13- ..was interested in photography.

0:04:13 > 0:04:18- He filmed a Sunday school trip, - way back in the 1950s.

0:05:19 > 0:05:22- Very romantic images there. - How many do you remember?

0:05:22 > 0:05:25- Yes, Gwenda, Megan and their mother.

0:05:25 > 0:05:27- That was in the 1940s.

0:05:27 > 0:05:31- Everyone in the village - would go on the Sunday school trip.

0:05:31 > 0:05:34- There were about four or five buses.

0:05:34 > 0:05:38- I would be sick on a bus - so I wasn't allowed to go.

0:05:38 > 0:05:40- I wasn't on that trip.

0:05:40 > 0:05:42- One of my brothers was there.

0:05:42 > 0:05:46- He was allowed to go with the boys - - they were older than me.

0:05:47 > 0:05:53- I wasn't there - but it was lovely to see those.

0:05:53 > 0:05:55- How did you start singing?

0:05:56 > 0:05:58- I sang - in Sunday school and in chapel.

0:05:58 > 0:06:04- My parents sang too. My father had - a singing group - "Parti Min Menai".

0:06:04 > 0:06:11- My brothers and their friends, - Rovi the magician from Caernarfon...

0:06:11 > 0:06:15- ..and Huw Tanpencefn - - a gang of them would sing.

0:06:15 > 0:06:16- They were very good.

0:06:17 > 0:06:21- I wasn't allowed to go. - I was much younger than my brothers.

0:06:22 > 0:06:27- I would sing in chapel, - in the local eisteddfodau.

0:06:27 > 0:06:29- That was my life in a way.

0:06:29 > 0:06:33- In terms of a career, - you began as a teacher not a singer.

0:06:34 > 0:06:38- As a career, yes. - I went to Bangor Normal College.

0:06:38 > 0:06:42- I'd been accepted to a music - college in Manchester when I was 16.

0:06:43 > 0:06:46- I couldn't get a scholarship - or money to go.

0:06:47 > 0:06:50- I went to the Normal - and taught in Beaumaris.

0:06:50 > 0:06:53- Then I moved to south Wales, - to the Rhymney Valley.

0:06:54 > 0:06:55- I taught in Gelligaer.

0:06:55 > 0:07:01- You had singing lessons in Cardiff, - in the college in the castle grounds.

0:07:01 > 0:07:04- I had voice training - when I was 13 years old.

0:07:04 > 0:07:09- I continued and had lessons in - Cardiff first with Phyllis Kinney.

0:07:09 > 0:07:13- Phyllis was very good and - she suggested after many years...

0:07:13 > 0:07:17- ..she would give me - extra advice about what to wear...

0:07:17 > 0:07:20- ..ideas of which I knew nothing.

0:07:20 > 0:07:23- I'm grateful to her - and she suggested I should go...

0:07:23 > 0:07:26- ..to the College of Music and Drama - in Cardiff.

0:07:26 > 0:07:30- We haven't found footage of you - in the College of Music and Drama...

0:07:30 > 0:07:32- ..but we've got the college itself.

0:07:33 > 0:07:35- Look carefully - at the end of the clip.

0:07:35 > 0:07:39- You'll see a familiar face, - the actor Ronnie Williams.

0:07:44 > 0:07:46- # Under the pondweed - do the great fish go

0:07:47 > 0:07:50- # La-la-la-la-la-la-la

0:07:50 > 0:07:52- # La-la-la-la-la-la-la

0:07:53 > 0:07:56- # In the green darkness - where the rushes grow

0:07:57 > 0:07:59- # La-la-la-la-la-la-la

0:07:59 > 0:08:02- # The King is in Hao

0:08:02 > 0:08:06- # La-la-la-la-la-la-la

0:08:06 > 0:08:09- # Under the pondweed - do the great fish lie

0:08:09 > 0:08:11- # La-la-la-la-la-la-la

0:08:12 > 0:08:15- # La-la-la-la-la-la-la

0:08:15 > 0:08:18- # Down in Hao, the sunny hours go by

0:08:18 > 0:08:20- # La-la-la-la-la-la-la

0:08:20 > 0:08:24- # The King holds revelry

0:08:26 > 0:08:29- # Under the pondweed - do the great fish sleep

0:08:29 > 0:08:33- # The dragonflies - are drowsy in the heat

0:08:34 > 0:08:38- # The King is drinking deep

0:08:39 > 0:08:44- # La-la-la-la-la-la-la #

0:08:48 > 0:08:50- Ronnie there in the background.

0:08:50 > 0:08:52- I wasn't there full-time.

0:08:53 > 0:08:58- I went twice a week to Madame Julia - Hilger. She'd been an opera singer.

0:08:59 > 0:09:02- I used to go regularly for years.

0:09:02 > 0:09:08- In those days, you could drive - a car along Queen Street in Cardiff.

0:09:08 > 0:09:12- You could drive the car - into the castle.

0:09:12 > 0:09:14- We would park - where that door was...

0:09:14 > 0:09:16- ..and go up those stairs.

0:09:16 > 0:09:19- Manon was a baby. - I'd take the carry-cot with me.

0:09:19 > 0:09:24- She was a young adult - when I finished.

0:09:24 > 0:09:28- How did you decide - to take up singing professionally?

0:09:28 > 0:09:36- After 1964 when I was lucky - to win the major Eisteddfod awards.

0:09:36 > 0:09:41- I won solo competitions in the Urdd - in June, Llangollen in July...

0:09:41 > 0:09:46- ..and was awarded the Blue Riband in - the National Eisteddfod in August.

0:09:46 > 0:09:49- In 1964 - the same year...

0:09:49 > 0:09:54- ..the BBC formed - a light entertainment department.

0:09:55 > 0:09:58- I slotted in there quite neatly.

0:09:58 > 0:10:01- The Eisteddfod brings - so much publicity.

0:10:01 > 0:10:06- I was in the right place - at the right time, luckily.

0:10:06 > 0:10:09- Meredydd Evans - was looking for people...

0:10:09 > 0:10:15- ..and Ryan and I were among - the first to be offered a contract.

0:10:15 > 0:10:19- We'll hear more about that part - of your life after the break...

0:10:19 > 0:10:21- ..but for now, thank you, Margaret.

0:10:22 > 0:10:24- We'll be back in two minutes.

0:10:27 > 0:10:29- # Remember #

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0:10:38 > 0:10:38- 888

0:10:38 > 0:10:40- 888- - 888

0:10:41 > 0:10:43- # Remember #

0:10:44 > 0:10:46- Welcome back to share the memories...

0:10:47 > 0:10:49- ..of singer and actress - Margaret Williams.

0:10:50 > 0:10:55- You were talking - about yourself and Ryan Davies.

0:10:55 > 0:10:59- Many of the early programmes - were live broadcasts...

0:10:59 > 0:11:03- ..but we have found a clip - of you and Ryan with Aled Hughes.

0:11:03 > 0:11:07- Not "Noson Lawen" but "Sgubor Lawen".

0:11:09 > 0:11:11- # I'm off to London, fellows

0:11:11 > 0:11:13- # Tomorrow I shall start

0:11:13 > 0:11:15- # I shan't stay in Wales

0:11:15 > 0:11:17- # To break my little heart

0:11:17 > 0:11:21- # Oh, the little golden beer

0:11:21 > 0:11:23- # The little golden beer

0:11:23 > 0:11:25- # I'll take a sip - just now and then

0:11:25 > 0:11:26- # Of the little golden beer

0:11:27 > 0:11:30- # In London, there's good money - and dinner - aye, that's right

0:11:30 > 0:11:34- # And walks with pretty little maids - 'til ten o'clock at night

0:11:34 > 0:11:37- # Oh, the little golden beer

0:11:37 > 0:11:39- # The little yellow beer

0:11:40 > 0:11:44- # I'll take a sip just now and then - of the little golden beer

0:11:44 > 0:11:47- # When I go up to London, - I'll see no pigs or sheep

0:11:47 > 0:11:49- # I'll go to bed so early

0:11:49 > 0:11:51- # And have a good long sleep

0:11:51 > 0:11:54- # Oh, the little golden beer

0:11:55 > 0:11:56- # The little golden beer

0:11:56 > 0:11:58- # I'll take a sip just now and then

0:11:59 > 0:12:00- # Of the little yellow beer #

0:12:05 > 0:12:09- From where did that come? - I'd never seen it before.

0:12:10 > 0:12:12- That was you and Ryan Davies - back in 1966.

0:12:12 > 0:12:16- With Aled, from the duo Aled & Reg, - standing on the other side.

0:12:16 > 0:12:19- He was a star of the time, - wasn't he?

0:12:19 > 0:12:22- Aled & Reg - yes. - I'd known Aled since childhood.

0:12:23 > 0:12:26- I was brought up - with a little niece of his.

0:12:26 > 0:12:29- Josephine and I - were the best of friends.

0:12:30 > 0:12:32- They lived next door to us.

0:12:32 > 0:12:35- We'd listen to Aled, - when he was a young man.

0:12:35 > 0:12:37- His sister was Josephine's mother.

0:12:37 > 0:12:41- He'd yodel and Nain would say - that no-one could rival him!

0:12:42 > 0:12:44- He'd yodel with Aled & Reg.

0:12:44 > 0:12:48- They were both so remarkable - and I was so fond of them both.

0:12:48 > 0:12:52- You were seen there - singing with Ryan, of course.

0:12:52 > 0:12:56- We now have a very early film - showing more of his own talent.

0:12:59 > 0:13:01- Could you come out, please?

0:13:01 > 0:13:03- No, I have to sell the ice creams.

0:13:03 > 0:13:07- The TV is here, - and we'd like to interview you.

0:13:15 > 0:13:18- How are ice cream sales - in Eisteddfod week?

0:13:18 > 0:13:24- It's going well, plenty of licking - going on in this Eisteddfod.

0:13:25 > 0:13:27- Is ice cream popular with the bards?

0:13:27 > 0:13:30- Oh, the bards all come out, - you know.

0:13:30 > 0:13:34- They all love a little refresher - after they argue in there.

0:13:34 > 0:13:39- Which ice cream goes down best - with the bards?

0:13:39 > 0:13:42- I think it's this one here, - strawberry split.

0:13:42 > 0:13:45- I see. Well, thank you very much.

0:13:45 > 0:13:47- Thank you, bye-bye!

0:13:47 > 0:13:50- We'll move on now - to meet someone else on the Maes.

0:13:52 > 0:13:54- I liked that little "bye-bye".

0:13:54 > 0:13:59- Wonderful. It's Ryan's singing that - fills me with longing for that era.

0:13:59 > 0:14:03- We laugh at his acting sketches, - as we all should...

0:14:03 > 0:14:07- ..but there was something - about his singing voice.

0:14:07 > 0:14:10- I remember singing with him.

0:14:10 > 0:14:14- He played the triple harp. - He was quite exceptional.

0:14:14 > 0:14:16- His voice had a nostalgic quality.

0:14:16 > 0:14:19- He could sing a melancholic ballad - such as Myfanwy.

0:14:20 > 0:14:22- He could sing with a big band - behind him too.

0:14:23 > 0:14:26- We'd sing Hywel and Blodwen - together in every concert.

0:14:26 > 0:14:30- Nobody could sing it like Ryan. - He sang it properly.

0:14:30 > 0:14:32- He was amusing with it.

0:14:33 > 0:14:36- How I kept a straight face, - I'll never know.

0:14:36 > 0:14:40- What about Ronnie? - You worked a lot with him as well.

0:14:41 > 0:14:45- Yes, a great deal. Ronnie had - his own BBC programme - Late Call.

0:14:46 > 0:14:48- It was on late every Tuesday night.

0:14:48 > 0:14:54- Dave Allen, Jimmy Edwards and - The Beverley Sisters were guests.

0:14:54 > 0:14:59- They'd take part in the chat show. - I was the regular singer.

0:15:00 > 0:15:04- Ronnie presented it. He also - scripted a show called Stiwdio B.

0:15:04 > 0:15:08- That series was similar - to That Was The Week That Was.

0:15:08 > 0:15:13- David Frost did it in English - but ours was in Welsh.

0:15:13 > 0:15:17- That was the first one we did, - back in 1964.

0:15:18 > 0:15:20- Stewart Jones was in that series.

0:15:20 > 0:15:24- I remember him coming along - with a newly-created character.

0:15:25 > 0:15:27- Wil Sam had written his script.

0:15:27 > 0:15:29- There was a truck - in the studio...

0:15:30 > 0:15:32- ..for the weekly live broadcast.

0:15:32 > 0:15:35- Stewart portrayed - the man with the truck...

0:15:35 > 0:15:38- I'd look forward to his performance.

0:15:38 > 0:15:41- He and his script - always made me laugh.

0:15:41 > 0:15:45- You went on to act with him - in Ifas y Tryc, didn't you?

0:15:45 > 0:15:52- Yes, in the 1980s, I was invited - to play the role of Ifas's wife.

0:15:52 > 0:15:55- That was in the film - based on the Ifas character.

0:15:55 > 0:15:58- Here's a clip right now.

0:16:17 > 0:16:21- She'll kill me, she'll kill me - - my days are numbered, lad.

0:16:21 > 0:16:23- What are you going on about?

0:16:24 > 0:16:28- The minute my missus sees - this blighted scrap on the yard...

0:16:28 > 0:16:31- ..my life won't be worth living.

0:16:31 > 0:16:32- What's this?

0:16:35 > 0:16:39- Must I suffer seeing this heap - for the rest of my life?

0:16:39 > 0:16:44- It's only temporary. - It won't be here long - temporary.

0:16:44 > 0:16:47- We'll shift it from here - as soon as we can.

0:16:47 > 0:16:50- The same old story. - Shame on you, man.

0:16:50 > 0:16:52- Swapping my tallboy with this.

0:16:52 > 0:16:53- But...

0:16:53 > 0:16:55- But...- - You'll suffer for this.

0:16:55 > 0:16:59- Excuse me, the tallboy's - on the back of the truck.

0:16:59 > 0:17:01- And there's more to the story.

0:17:01 > 0:17:04- Selling the dresser was the start.

0:17:04 > 0:17:07- Look. I'm warning you now.

0:17:08 > 0:17:10- This old scrap or me.

0:17:10 > 0:17:12- If this hasn't gone in two days, - I'll go.

0:17:13 > 0:17:15- This time, I mean it.

0:17:15 > 0:17:18- If I get up - and this is still in the yard...

0:17:18 > 0:17:20- ..I'll be leaving you, right.

0:17:27 > 0:17:29- That's a hell of choice, guv.

0:17:29 > 0:17:33- Make sure that scrap is out of sight - and stays out of sight.

0:17:35 > 0:17:37- Don't cross Margaret Williams.

0:17:37 > 0:17:39- That's telling it as it is.

0:17:40 > 0:17:42- I remember - they blackened under my eyes.

0:17:42 > 0:17:45- They wouldn't bother now, - it's there already.

0:17:45 > 0:17:48- Making that was pure pleasure.

0:17:49 > 0:17:51- Mici Plwm was there too.

0:17:51 > 0:17:53- I admired Stewart so much.

0:17:53 > 0:17:56- I was used to seeing him - in the eisteddfodau...

0:17:57 > 0:17:58- ..when I used to compete.

0:17:58 > 0:18:01- He'd compete in the open recitation.

0:18:02 > 0:18:05- I'd known him for years.

0:18:05 > 0:18:08- You stepped - into a very different role there.

0:18:08 > 0:18:10- Did you enjoy acting?

0:18:11 > 0:18:13- Yes, I enjoyed it a great deal, - I must say.

0:18:14 > 0:18:16- I do enjoy it.

0:18:16 > 0:18:18- Lleifior came next.

0:18:18 > 0:18:22- Then many plays by T James Jones, - Eigra Lewis Roberts...

0:18:22 > 0:18:25- ..and Islwyn Ffowc Elis, of course.

0:18:25 > 0:18:28- I enjoyed myself - in Lleifior and Pobol y Cwm.

0:18:28 > 0:18:32- Sometimes, someone would say, - you don't look right for the part.

0:18:32 > 0:18:35- Sometimes that would go against me.

0:18:35 > 0:18:38- We'll finish where we started, - with your series.

0:18:39 > 0:18:45- Here we see you - with the Pendyrus Male Voice Choir.

0:18:48 > 0:18:52- # When spirits are flagging

0:18:52 > 0:18:57- # You're wondering what's in store

0:18:57 > 0:19:02- # Forget your troubled load

0:19:02 > 0:19:06- # Come inside, - step through the door

0:19:06 > 0:19:11- # Here you'll find a haven

0:19:11 > 0:19:16- # A shoulder you can lean on

0:19:17 > 0:19:20- # Lay down your burden

0:19:21 > 0:19:25- # Tomorrow is another day

0:19:26 > 0:19:30- # For all who enter, let fear depart

0:19:30 > 0:19:34- # Let faith replace the pain

0:19:35 > 0:19:40- # Hope gladdens the heavy heart

0:19:40 > 0:19:44- # Like sunshine after rain

0:19:45 > 0:19:49- # Here you'll find a haven

0:19:49 > 0:19:54- # A shoulder you can lean on

0:19:55 > 0:19:59- # Lay down your burden

0:19:59 > 0:20:03- # Tomorrow is another day

0:20:04 > 0:20:08- # Here you'll find a haven

0:20:08 > 0:20:13- # A shoulder you can lean on

0:20:13 > 0:20:18- # Lay down your burden

0:20:18 > 0:20:23- # Tomorrow is another day

0:20:23 > 0:20:31- # Tomorrow is another day

0:20:32 > 0:20:40- # Another day #

0:20:43 > 0:20:45- Hafan Gobaith was the song there.

0:20:45 > 0:20:47- You said you felt a shiver...

0:20:47 > 0:20:51- ..singing that song - with the Pendyrus Male Voice Choir.

0:20:51 > 0:20:53- It was such a huge climax.

0:20:53 > 0:20:55- Glynne Jones had walked in...

0:20:56 > 0:20:58- ..into this studio as it happens.

0:20:58 > 0:21:00- He was the conductor of the choir.

0:21:00 > 0:21:02- He was the conductor of the choir.- - Yes, Glynne was quite a character.

0:21:02 > 0:21:05- One of life's flamboyant characters.

0:21:06 > 0:21:10- People either loved him or thought, - "Oh, Glynne Jones, Pendyrus"!

0:21:10 > 0:21:14- He would always wear a smart cloak.

0:21:14 > 0:21:19- I'd go home and my mother would say, - "Why does he wear that silly cloak?"

0:21:19 > 0:21:22- I liked it, - I thought it was lovely.

0:21:22 > 0:21:25- He came in that day - and the studio was packed.

0:21:25 > 0:21:29- There were 80 in the choir and - there were other choirs here too.

0:21:29 > 0:21:33- There were dancers, an orchestra, - soloists, lots of people.

0:21:33 > 0:21:35- He had to share a room - with the choir.

0:21:36 > 0:21:38- When Glynne came in, - he wasn't happy.

0:21:38 > 0:21:40- However, we came in and had a chat.

0:21:41 > 0:21:42- His mother was ill.

0:21:42 > 0:21:44- He lived with his mother...

0:21:44 > 0:21:48- ..and he himself wasn't well either, - but he was like a lamb.

0:21:48 > 0:21:52- He brought the choir - into the studio and conducted.

0:21:52 > 0:21:58- Perhaps because of the song, - or because I knew of the illness...

0:21:58 > 0:22:02- ..and the song - composed for Bryn - Terfel in aid of Hope House...

0:22:02 > 0:22:06- ..where the words mean so much...

0:22:06 > 0:22:10- ..that final chorus - sent a shiver down my spine.

0:22:10 > 0:22:12- It was amazing.

0:22:12 > 0:22:17- You enjoyed inviting - male voice choirs onto your series.

0:22:18 > 0:22:23- Usually, they'd be more used - to singing hymns and so on.

0:22:23 > 0:22:27- You liked to push them - to sing popular light songs.

0:22:27 > 0:22:30- In the 1970s, - maybe people don't remember...

0:22:31 > 0:22:35- ..but male voice choirs - had almost gone out of fashion.

0:22:35 > 0:22:37- I remember...

0:22:37 > 0:22:42- ..in the first series - produced in 1981 for the BBC...

0:22:43 > 0:22:47- ..when I wanted to feature - a male voice choir, they refused.

0:22:48 > 0:22:52- By 1982, maybe because the first - series had gone down quite well...

0:22:52 > 0:22:55- ..we were allowed - male voice choirs.

0:22:55 > 0:22:59- That series - the first two - programmes went out on the BBC...

0:23:00 > 0:23:03- ..but the third programme - went out on S4C...

0:23:03 > 0:23:07- ..as the channel had been launched - the Tuesday before.

0:23:07 > 0:23:11- The programme ended - with a great song, a sort of anthem.

0:23:11 > 0:23:13- We'd sing a light song too...

0:23:13 > 0:23:16- ..a formula which worked well - with male voice choirs.

0:23:17 > 0:23:20- Variety - just like tonight. - Thank you very much.

0:23:20 > 0:23:24- From all of us here, - until the next time, goodnight.

0:23:32 > 0:23:34- # Remember

0:23:42 > 0:23:44- # Remember #

0:23:48 > 0:23:50- S4C Subtitles by Simian 04 Cyf.

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