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0:00:27 > 0:00:31- Good evening and welcome to Cofio.
0:00:31 > 0:00:33- I'm joined by an actress...
0:00:33 > 0:00:36- ..who has impressed audiences - in Wales and further afield.
0:00:37 > 0:00:41- She's gained acclaim for portraying - the comic and the tragic.
0:00:41 > 0:00:45- She can also sing! - Welcome to the show, Sue Roderick.
0:00:45 > 0:00:47- It's nice to be here.
0:00:47 > 0:00:52- You're a prominent actress - but singing was your first love.
0:00:52 > 0:00:58- I've been singing since I - was a baby, according to Mam.
0:00:58 > 0:01:00- I wanted to be a singer.
0:01:00 > 0:01:04- I started singing properly - when I was three or four years old.
0:01:04 > 0:01:09- As a child, I was ill for a year. - I missed a whole year of school.
0:01:09 > 0:01:13- During that time, - the only entertainment I had...
0:01:13 > 0:01:16- ..was my brother's record player.
0:01:16 > 0:01:20- I'd listen to EPs and sing along. - That's how it all started.
0:01:21 > 0:01:25- As it happens, - we have a surprise for you tonight.
0:01:25 > 0:01:27- Do you like surprises?
0:01:27 > 0:01:29- No, I hate them.
0:01:29 > 0:01:33- This is going to be - a pleasant surprise. It's a classic.
0:01:33 > 0:01:36- Let's go back to the 1960s. - Watch this.
0:01:37 > 0:01:40- # His words are on the breeze
0:01:40 > 0:01:44- # Come to the banks - of the still waters
0:01:44 > 0:01:47- # Jesus calls and offers freely
0:01:47 > 0:01:52- # He'll be your Saviour - if you let him
0:01:52 > 0:01:57- # When the night is dark and gloomy
0:01:57 > 0:02:00- # And enemies surround you
0:02:01 > 0:02:02- # Reach out
0:02:02 > 0:02:06- # Reach out to Jesus Christ
0:02:07 > 0:02:11- # He'll bring music - back to your heart
0:02:11 > 0:02:15- # He'll bring music - back to your heart
0:02:15 > 0:02:17- # Reach out
0:02:17 > 0:02:21- # Reach out to Jesus Christ
0:02:22 > 0:02:24- # Reach out
0:02:25 > 0:02:26- # Reach out
0:02:26 > 0:02:32- # To Jesus Christ #
0:02:35 > 0:02:37- I can't believe that.
0:02:38 > 0:02:41- You were so sweet.
0:02:41 > 0:02:43- I want to cry.
0:02:43 > 0:02:45- How old were you?
0:02:45 > 0:02:49- I think I was 10 years old, - 10 or 11 years old.
0:02:49 > 0:02:52- We released a record, - Treflyn A Siwsan, when I was 11.
0:02:53 > 0:02:56- That looks like a studio to me, - I remember the song...
0:02:56 > 0:02:59- ..but I don't remember - where it was recorded.
0:02:59 > 0:03:02- You were singing with Treflyn.
0:03:02 > 0:03:06- I saw Treflyn last week. - He hasn't changed a bit.
0:03:07 > 0:03:11- I don't remember - how we started singing together.
0:03:12 > 0:03:14- We performed - in a number of concerts.
0:03:15 > 0:03:18- During the late 1960s, - we sang everywhere...
0:03:19 > 0:03:21- ..in halls everywhere.
0:03:21 > 0:03:23- We had a lot of fun.
0:03:23 > 0:03:27- I do remember that. - I'm so glad you found that.
0:03:27 > 0:03:33- As it happens, here's another chance - to see you and Treflyn singing.
0:03:33 > 0:03:36- In the spirit - of the 1960s and 1970s...
0:03:36 > 0:03:40- ..here's a protest song - about Porthmadog harbour.
0:03:43 > 0:03:45- # They've erected a gate
0:03:46 > 0:03:49- # To stop us going to the quay
0:03:50 > 0:03:52- # Anna, Joe and Cassie
0:03:53 > 0:03:55- # Will try to knock it down
0:03:55 > 0:03:58- # Keep the harbour for us
0:03:58 > 0:04:01- # Keep the harbour for us
0:04:02 > 0:04:05- # The English want a fee, - the English want a fee
0:04:05 > 0:04:07- # Keep the harbour for us #
0:04:07 > 0:04:11- What about the people - who come here to enjoy themselves?
0:04:12 > 0:04:14- Don't they make more use - of the harbour?
0:04:14 > 0:04:17- The problem as I see it is this.
0:04:17 > 0:04:22- Some people's livelihood depends - on their ability to use their nets.
0:04:23 > 0:04:26- We want people - to visit Porthmadog, yes...
0:04:26 > 0:04:31- ..but they must allow us - the right to fish the waters too.
0:04:31 > 0:04:36- You live in Pen-y-Cei - or you have links with the harbour.
0:04:36 > 0:04:40- What are your concerns - about what might happen...
0:04:40 > 0:04:43- ..if this law is passed?
0:04:43 > 0:04:47- I'd expect the children to be - allowed to paddle in the water...
0:04:47 > 0:04:49- ..as they have for many years.
0:04:49 > 0:04:51- I had six children...
0:04:52 > 0:04:56- ..and they used to jump out of bed - and jump into the water.
0:04:56 > 0:04:58- They've always done it.
0:04:58 > 0:05:01- How much use - do you make of this harbour...
0:05:01 > 0:05:05- ..compared with the English - residents of those flats?
0:05:06 > 0:05:09- We use this harbour - and bring our children here daily.
0:05:09 > 0:05:11- We've always done it.
0:05:11 > 0:05:13- Has this stopped now?
0:05:13 > 0:05:15- Has this stopped now?- - We can't go there any more.
0:05:15 > 0:05:19- Look at all these boats. - The children jump from the quayside.
0:05:19 > 0:05:22- They can't jump in - when the boats are here.
0:05:22 > 0:05:25- # All from Pen-y-Cei to Tremadog
0:05:26 > 0:05:28- # Want access to the quay
0:05:28 > 0:05:31- # Keep the harbour open for us
0:05:31 > 0:05:34- # Keep the harbour open for us
0:05:34 > 0:05:37- # The English want a fee, - the English want a fee
0:05:37 > 0:05:40- # Keep the harbour for us
0:05:40 > 0:05:43- # Keep the harbour for us
0:05:43 > 0:05:45- # Keep the harbour for us
0:05:46 > 0:05:48- # The English want a fee, - the English want a fee
0:05:49 > 0:05:51- # Keep the harbour for us #
0:05:56 > 0:05:59- Dear me! - We could write lyrics in those days!
0:05:59 > 0:06:03- "Keep the harbour for us, - the English want a fee."
0:06:03 > 0:06:06- We wrote that in a night.
0:06:06 > 0:06:11- Treflyn came over and we wrote it - - the protest song.
0:06:11 > 0:06:13- What happened as a result?
0:06:13 > 0:06:16- Porthmadog took over the Cob.
0:06:16 > 0:06:20- A cooperative was formed - and the battle was won.
0:06:20 > 0:06:23- There we go, - we went some way to helping them.
0:06:23 > 0:06:26- It's so strange to see that again.
0:06:26 > 0:06:29- You've sung since you were - three, four years old...
0:06:29 > 0:06:32- ..and it was an integral part - of your upbringing.
0:06:33 > 0:06:37- Did it boost your confidence - for the future?
0:06:37 > 0:06:39- At the time, I wasn't so sure.
0:06:40 > 0:06:43- I didn't enjoy school, - to be perfectly honest.
0:06:43 > 0:06:47- I wasn't there that often - - I was busy singing in concerts.
0:06:48 > 0:06:52- I was in TWW in Bristol when I was - ten years old with Stan Stennett.
0:06:52 > 0:06:54- I performed on Disc A Dawn.
0:06:54 > 0:06:58- To be perfectly honest, - when I attended school...
0:06:58 > 0:07:01- ..I was very insecure - as I was on television so often.
0:07:02 > 0:07:05- I was worried - people thought I was showing off.
0:07:05 > 0:07:07- I was very insecure about that.
0:07:08 > 0:07:11- I didn't stop doing it - because that's what I enjoyed.
0:07:12 > 0:07:14- The school wasn't...
0:07:14 > 0:07:18- There were - some wonderful teachers there...
0:07:18 > 0:07:22- ..but I didn't really - enjoy my time in school.
0:07:22 > 0:07:26- There was very little drama - or music in schools at that time.
0:07:26 > 0:07:30- I remember the headmaster, - he didn't speak a word of Welsh.
0:07:30 > 0:07:34- He asked me, "What do you want - to do with your life?"
0:07:34 > 0:07:37- I said I wanted to be - a singer or actress.
0:07:37 > 0:07:40- "Don't be so silly," he said, - "become a nurse or a hairdresser."
0:07:41 > 0:07:43- That's how it was at the time.
0:07:43 > 0:07:47- I didn't listen to him! - Maybe I should have.
0:07:47 > 0:07:49- No, I don't think so.
0:07:49 > 0:07:51- No, I don't think so.- - I went on to act and sing.
0:07:51 > 0:07:55- I do know it made me - a rather insecure person.
0:07:55 > 0:07:58- I know that sounds very strange...
0:07:58 > 0:08:02- ..because I perform and have - performed throughout my life.
0:08:02 > 0:08:04- I'm a rather insecure person.
0:08:04 > 0:08:08- I regret leaving school - without going on to college.
0:08:09 > 0:08:13- I feel I rushed into it, - into real life.
0:08:13 > 0:08:16- I started when I was 15 - and then went on tour.
0:08:16 > 0:08:20- I regret that. - The insecurity has stayed with me.
0:08:21 > 0:08:25- It didn't hold you back. - We move on a few years now.
0:08:25 > 0:08:28- A lot of water - has flowed under the bridge.
0:08:28 > 0:08:30- A call came from Weatherfield...
0:08:30 > 0:08:34- ..when you were offered a part - in Coronation Street.
0:08:34 > 0:08:36- Watch this.
0:08:38 > 0:08:39- Yes, my dear?
0:08:39 > 0:08:41- Yes, my dear?- - Vodka slimline.
0:08:41 > 0:08:42- Ice?
0:08:42 > 0:08:44- Ice?- - Yes, and lemon. Where is he then?
0:08:44 > 0:08:47- Alec Gilroy. - His name's over the door.
0:08:47 > 0:08:50- He's here now. You're in luck. Alec.
0:08:50 > 0:08:51- What?
0:08:52 > 0:08:54- Tanya.
0:08:54 > 0:08:56- Come and give me - one of your cuddles.
0:08:58 > 0:09:01- Seem to be big pals, don't they?
0:09:01 > 0:09:02- What brings you here?
0:09:03 > 0:09:06- They said, "Guess who's on the tour? - Cuddles Gilroy."
0:09:06 > 0:09:07- I said, "Here we go."
0:09:09 > 0:09:12- The Middle East tour? - Wally never said.
0:09:12 > 0:09:17- Be like the old days. Porthcawl - at night. Haven't forgotten, I hope.
0:09:18 > 0:09:21- Yes, well... - It won't be quite like the old days.
0:09:22 > 0:09:23- Bet?
0:09:24 > 0:09:25- Come and meet Tanya.
0:09:26 > 0:09:28- She's an exotic dancer.
0:09:28 > 0:09:31- Really? You do surprise me.
0:09:31 > 0:09:34- It's the wife - Bet.
0:09:35 > 0:09:36- Oh.
0:09:36 > 0:09:39- Megan and Bet, - the battle of the hair.
0:09:39 > 0:09:41- I won that battle.
0:09:41 > 0:09:43- I won that battle.- - I think you're right.
0:09:43 > 0:09:48- What was it like to be in Coronation - Street, a long-established series?
0:09:48 > 0:09:52- When my agent asked me - to go up there, I agreed.
0:09:52 > 0:09:57- I think I'm right in saying that I - only went up for two episodes.
0:09:57 > 0:10:01- I filmed both episodes - and they called me back again.
0:10:01 > 0:10:03- I was there for months after that.
0:10:03 > 0:10:05- The experience was amazing.
0:10:06 > 0:10:09- I'd been a fan of Coronation Street - for many, many years.
0:10:09 > 0:10:12- My first scene - was in the Rovers Return.
0:10:12 > 0:10:16- I couldn't believe it. - I couldn't believe I was in there.
0:10:17 > 0:10:19- I thought to myself, "Oh, I'm here."
0:10:19 > 0:10:22- It's an icon, in a way.
0:10:23 > 0:10:27- Working with Julie Goodyear - and Roy Barraclough...
0:10:27 > 0:10:29- ..especially Roy, it was great.
0:10:29 > 0:10:32- We became bosom buddies.
0:10:32 > 0:10:36- We still phone each other - and send Christmas cards.
0:10:36 > 0:10:40- We worked together about five years - after that in a pantomime.
0:10:40 > 0:10:43- He's such a lovely man.
0:10:43 > 0:10:48- It was an amazing experience - and I enjoyed my time there.
0:10:48 > 0:10:51- They wanted me to stay there - a little longer...
0:10:51 > 0:10:54- ..but at the time, - my daughter Melisa was very young.
0:10:55 > 0:10:58- I felt I'd have to go away - for a long time so I didn't...
0:10:58 > 0:11:00- ..but it was very enjoyable.
0:11:00 > 0:11:06- That's all for now. We'll see - a lot more of you in Part 2.
0:11:08 > 0:11:09- We'll be back in two minutes.
0:11:12 > 0:11:15- # Remember #
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0:11:28 > 0:11:32- Welcome back. - I've been joined by Sue Roderick.
0:11:33 > 0:11:38- At the end of the 1980s, - you were part of a dynamic quartet.
0:11:38 > 0:11:40- Four women in the Codi Pais series.
0:11:40 > 0:11:43- This series broke new ground - in a way.
0:11:44 > 0:11:45- Yes, it did.
0:11:46 > 0:11:50- A lot was done in England at the - time, such as French and Saunders.
0:11:50 > 0:11:54- Nothing in Wales - had brought four women together.
0:11:54 > 0:11:57- Nothing risque was being done, - either.
0:11:57 > 0:12:00- I think Carys Hall Evans - brought us all together.
0:12:01 > 0:12:05- Huw Davies, the head of HTV at the - time, was eager to do the programme.
0:12:05 > 0:12:09- It was a success with male and - female audiences, but mostly female!
0:12:10 > 0:12:14- We were allowed to say things - women weren't supposed to say.
0:12:14 > 0:12:18- The cast included Siw Hughes, - me, Gill and Eirlys Parry.
0:12:18 > 0:12:22- We were four very different women - in many ways.
0:12:22 > 0:12:28- Sometimes, Gill and I were more - adventurous and took more risks.
0:12:28 > 0:12:34- It was a nice combination - each - of us had different characteristics.
0:12:34 > 0:12:37- There was a lot - of singing and dancing.
0:12:37 > 0:12:40- The talent came through - in every sense of the word.
0:12:40 > 0:12:43- We were also part of - the production team which was nice.
0:12:44 > 0:12:46- We could contribute - and write for the show.
0:12:47 > 0:12:50- Let's have a look at how exactly - you did contribute!
0:13:08 > 0:13:12- # I need a friend when night falls
0:13:12 > 0:13:16- # I need a friend - when mist surrounds me
0:13:16 > 0:13:19- # I need a friend - when dark clouds gather
0:13:20 > 0:13:23- # I need a friend - when the rain drowns me
0:13:24 > 0:13:27- # I need a friend - when the praise stops
0:13:28 > 0:13:31- # I need a friend - when words fails me
0:13:31 > 0:13:35- # I need a friend - when I have nowhere to hide
0:13:35 > 0:13:39- # I need a friend when night falls #
0:13:41 > 0:13:43- A pair of legs.
0:13:43 > 0:13:45- That was another hair show!
0:13:46 > 0:13:51- That's how Gill and I performed - we - showed off and we had a lot of fun.
0:13:52 > 0:13:55- There's something nice - about being able to let go.
0:13:55 > 0:13:57- It was great.
0:13:58 > 0:14:03- We would suggest items for the show - and Carys would say, "Yes, great."
0:14:04 > 0:14:06- Then we'd go, "Oh, no."
0:14:07 > 0:14:10- You mentioned Victoria Wood - and French and Saunders.
0:14:10 > 0:14:14- Women were breaking new ground - in the world of comedy.
0:14:14 > 0:14:18- Caryl had already done so and was - still doing it when we did that.
0:14:18 > 0:14:23- It was nice to see four very - different women coming together.
0:14:23 > 0:14:26- It was such good fun.
0:14:26 > 0:14:29- One man who was very influential...
0:14:29 > 0:14:34- ..in opening the door - to the acting world for you...
0:14:34 > 0:14:36- ..was Wilbert Lloyd Roberts.
0:14:37 > 0:14:40- We have a clip - of a play by Saunders Lewis...
0:14:41 > 0:14:46- ..which was shown on the small screen - at the same time as it was staged.
0:14:46 > 0:14:49- There's also an interview - with Wilbert.
0:14:51 > 0:14:58- You see, Sara, Paul and I have - to meet so often in the college.
0:14:58 > 0:15:01- A wife and a lover - discussing the husband.
0:15:01 > 0:15:05- It's a scene from Saunders Lewis's - play - Problemau Prifysgol.
0:15:08 > 0:15:12- The drama will be televised - on Harlech TV later this year.
0:15:12 > 0:15:16- Is it a wise move in terms - of developing drama in Wales...
0:15:17 > 0:15:22- ..to televise a play when it's being - performed in the theatre?
0:15:22 > 0:15:27- Co-operation is important especially - in a small country like this.
0:15:27 > 0:15:32- It's important to give actors - a chance to be on stage and screen.
0:15:32 > 0:15:37- I think people are more interested - in the television broadcast...
0:15:37 > 0:15:40- ..after seeing it performed...
0:15:40 > 0:15:44- ..or if it's been talked about - as a stage production.
0:15:44 > 0:15:48- I'm not saying every stage play - should be televised...
0:15:48 > 0:15:53- ..but co-operation is good for the - actors and all institutions...
0:15:53 > 0:15:56- ..which provide a means for actors - of earning a living.
0:15:58 > 0:16:04- You were young when you auditioned - for Wilbert Lloyd Roberts.
0:16:04 > 0:16:07- I'd responded to an advertisement - in a paper.
0:16:07 > 0:16:10- Cwmni Theatr Cymru - was looking for actors.
0:16:11 > 0:16:14- I went there, - read a script and sang.
0:16:14 > 0:16:16- He asked me when could I start.
0:16:17 > 0:16:20- I told him - I could start when I left school.
0:16:20 > 0:16:24- He thought I'd already left school. - I was only 14 years old.
0:16:24 > 0:16:28- In the meantime, - he suggested I had singing lessons.
0:16:28 > 0:16:31- No-one gave singing lessons - in Porthmadog.
0:16:31 > 0:16:36- He told me his wife, Betty, - could teach me.
0:16:36 > 0:16:40- I was taught by her for years - - we became good friends.
0:16:40 > 0:16:45- We went through the Guildhall exams, - all the way up to Grade 8.
0:16:45 > 0:16:48- We had a lot of fun - - she was such a nice lady.
0:16:48 > 0:16:52- When I finished my schooling, - I returned to see Wilbert...
0:16:53 > 0:16:56- ..and I joined Cwmni Theatr Cymru.
0:16:56 > 0:16:59- It was strange watching that clip.
0:16:59 > 0:17:03- Gaynor Morgan Rees and Beryl - Williams were in the audition...
0:17:03 > 0:17:05- ..when I was 14 years old.
0:17:05 > 0:17:07- The three of them were there.
0:17:07 > 0:17:09- Wilbert was a man of the theatre.
0:17:10 > 0:17:12- I've never seen that clip before.
0:17:12 > 0:17:16- He would promote - and believe in his own words.
0:17:16 > 0:17:20- That's very important. - We've lost that ability in Wales.
0:17:21 > 0:17:23- We don't like marketing.
0:17:23 > 0:17:26- We don't like telling people - that we're good.
0:17:26 > 0:17:28- He was very good at that.
0:17:29 > 0:17:31- We need more of that these days.
0:17:31 > 0:17:35- There's nothing worse - than a half-empty theatre.
0:17:35 > 0:17:39- I've done a lot of theatre work - - it's kept me going for years.
0:17:40 > 0:17:42- That's down to a lack of marketing.
0:17:42 > 0:17:46- It has nothing to do - with actors or the production.
0:17:46 > 0:17:48- It's a lack of marketing.
0:17:49 > 0:17:51- There are some very good companies.
0:17:51 > 0:17:55- Dafydd Hywel promotes his shows. - I've worked with Frank Vickery.
0:17:55 > 0:17:59- Apart from those two, - there's a lack of marketing.
0:17:59 > 0:18:04- When you perform to packed houses, - it gives you a lot of confidence.
0:18:04 > 0:18:09- I don't care what anyone says, - everyone wants an audience.
0:18:10 > 0:18:12- It was nice to watch that clip.
0:18:12 > 0:18:17- What was nice about Mr Roberts, we - never called him Wilbert, never...
0:18:18 > 0:18:22- ..he was true to his word and I went - there at the first opportunity...
0:18:22 > 0:18:25- ..to act - - he gave me that opportunity.
0:18:25 > 0:18:27- Betty gave you singing lessons.
0:18:28 > 0:18:32- Was there a point where you had - to choose between singing and acting?
0:18:32 > 0:18:38- Yes. I did well in my exams and she - asked, "What are you going to do?"
0:18:38 > 0:18:40- I said, "Well, I like both."
0:18:41 > 0:18:43- She said, "OK, we'll see."
0:18:44 > 0:18:46- I went into the acting side.
0:18:46 > 0:18:52- I still sing and I like to think I - could have been a classical singer.
0:18:52 > 0:18:54- However, it wasn't to be.
0:18:54 > 0:18:58- Next, we have a classic film.
0:18:58 > 0:19:03- You featured in a film that was - nominated for an Oscar in 1992.
0:19:03 > 0:19:05- That film was Hedd Wyn.
0:19:05 > 0:19:08- You played the part - of Lizzie Roberts.
0:19:15 > 0:19:17- The trout has swum away.
0:19:18 > 0:19:21- We used to swim here - when we were young.
0:19:21 > 0:19:23- I know.
0:19:25 > 0:19:27- As boys, we used to watch you.
0:19:28 > 0:19:30- You're full of mischief.
0:19:32 > 0:19:35- Had my parents known, - they would have killed me.
0:19:38 > 0:19:41- Come on, Lizzie, - I'll race you to the river.
0:19:41 > 0:19:43- What? I can't.
0:19:43 > 0:19:45- Come on.
0:19:45 > 0:19:47- No-one will know.
0:19:47 > 0:19:49- Let me go in first.
0:20:03 > 0:20:04- Hurry up.
0:20:04 > 0:20:06- I'm nearly ready.
0:20:28 > 0:20:31- Ellisyn, what are you going - to wear when you come out?
0:20:31 > 0:20:33- What?
0:20:50 > 0:20:51- Cheeky!
0:20:51 > 0:20:54- I thought you'd have stopped it - earlier.
0:20:54 > 0:20:55- No, no.
0:20:56 > 0:21:01- The story of how Hedd Wyn - was nominated is fascinating.
0:21:01 > 0:21:04- Yes. I don't think - a lot of people are aware of this.
0:21:04 > 0:21:08- A man from Dolgellau, Mr Evans, - had seen the film.
0:21:08 > 0:21:13- It had a cinema release before - there was any talk of the Oscars.
0:21:13 > 0:21:18- He wrote to the Academy in LA and - told them he'd watched this film.
0:21:18 > 0:21:20- He thought it was fantastic.
0:21:20 > 0:21:24- He wanted it nominated for an Oscar - and that's how it happened.
0:21:24 > 0:21:27- A man from Dolgellau - helped us get to the Oscars.
0:21:27 > 0:21:30- What was it like - when you were there?
0:21:30 > 0:21:34- I was worried I didn't have - enough clothes to wear.
0:21:34 > 0:21:39- There were so many events to promote - the film and parties to attend.
0:21:39 > 0:21:44- I met some very interesting people - during that time.
0:21:44 > 0:21:45- Who?
0:21:45 > 0:21:47- Who?- - Well...
0:21:48 > 0:21:52- I met so many people - - Clint Eastwood, Raquel Welch.
0:21:52 > 0:21:57- I went to Elton John's party. - This sounds like name dropping.
0:21:57 > 0:21:58- Keep going.
0:21:59 > 0:22:04- Anthony Hopkins looked after us - - he was our sponsor.
0:22:04 > 0:22:08- I'd worked with him a few months - earlier in Selected Exits.
0:22:09 > 0:22:12- That was nice - because I knew him well.
0:22:13 > 0:22:15- It was nice being with him.
0:22:15 > 0:22:18- One of the best things - that happened to me there...
0:22:19 > 0:22:24- ..was having a meal with the Academy - and sitting next to Gregory Peck.
0:22:25 > 0:22:26- He was a huge hero of mine.
0:22:27 > 0:22:30- He reminded me of my father - - he was very much like him.
0:22:30 > 0:22:35- He was there with his wife and I - thought, "What am I going to say?"
0:22:36 > 0:22:37- I had to say something.
0:22:37 > 0:22:41- He started the conversation - - he was such a gentleman.
0:22:41 > 0:22:43- He said he'd enjoyed the film.
0:22:44 > 0:22:47- I said, "Of course, - you know Wales, don't you?"
0:22:47 > 0:22:51- Moby Dick was filmed here. - That's how the conversation started.
0:22:51 > 0:22:56- After that, I had something to say - but I didn't know how to say it.
0:22:56 > 0:23:00- Dad's friend, a very close friend - of my mother and father...
0:23:01 > 0:23:04- ..his name was Tom Clegg - and he was an actor.
0:23:04 > 0:23:07- He was the native American Indian - in Moby Dick.
0:23:07 > 0:23:10- He was at his side - throughout the film.
0:23:10 > 0:23:13- He also banged the gong - before the Rank films.
0:23:14 > 0:23:15- The well-toned body.
0:23:15 > 0:23:17- The well-toned body.- - That's the one.
0:23:17 > 0:23:21- They were friends for years - after being in the Army together.
0:23:21 > 0:23:24- I was talking to him - about Tom Clegg.
0:23:24 > 0:23:28- I never thought I'd speak - to him about someone we both knew...
0:23:28 > 0:23:31- ..or at least my parents knew.
0:23:31 > 0:23:34- We talked for hours. - It's a small world.
0:23:34 > 0:23:37- The Welsh find their way everywhere.
0:23:37 > 0:23:39- Most definitely.
0:23:39 > 0:23:43- Well, we've brought back - some fine memories tonight.
0:23:43 > 0:23:45- Thank you very much, Sue.
0:23:45 > 0:23:48- Is it over? What a shame!
0:23:48 > 0:23:49- It wasn't that bad.
0:23:49 > 0:23:51- It wasn't that bad.- - I want to carry on!
0:23:51 > 0:23:53- Aren't there any more clips?
0:23:53 > 0:23:55- Thank you very much.
0:23:55 > 0:23:57- Thank you very much.- - Thank you.
0:23:57 > 0:24:00- We'll be back next week. Goodnight.
0:24:06 > 0:24:08- # Remember
0:24:17 > 0:24:18- # Remember #
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