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0:00:10 > 0:00:14- # Remember

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0:00:26 > 0:00:28- Welcome to Cofio.

0:00:28 > 0:00:32- Reminiscing with us tonight - is a prominent Welsh actress.

0:00:32 > 0:00:35- She's a versatile actress - and writer.

0:00:35 > 0:00:40- She's won two BAFTA awards - in a career spanning 40 years.

0:00:40 > 0:00:42- Sharon Morgan.

0:00:43 > 0:00:47- I thought it might be suitable - to start back in the late '70s...

0:00:47 > 0:00:51- ..with that classic comedy, - the rugby comedy, Grand Slam.

0:00:52 > 0:00:55- It's still fresh. - People still remember the lines.

0:00:55 > 0:00:58- Some know the script off by heart!

0:00:58 > 0:01:03- I was in London, in Under Milk Wood - at the Mayfair, when it was shown.

0:01:03 > 0:01:06- I missed all the fuss - in Wales at the time.

0:01:06 > 0:01:10- I was doing four or five jobs, then - and it was just one amongst many.

0:01:11 > 0:01:14- But, yes, it's amazing. - It was innocent and funny.

0:01:14 > 0:01:17- You had Sion Probert, - Dewi and Windsor.

0:01:17 > 0:01:20- The whole cast was excellent.

0:01:20 > 0:01:23- Here's some of that fun - in our Grand Slam clip.

0:01:32 > 0:01:34- It's gone two!

0:01:34 > 0:01:37- It's gone two!- - Oui, it 'as been a very long night.

0:01:37 > 0:01:39- I gotta go.

0:01:39 > 0:01:41- I gotta go.- - What? What you mean, go?

0:01:41 > 0:01:44- Well, the match. Where's the field?

0:01:44 > 0:01:47- But you are not leaving - your little butterfly?

0:01:47 > 0:01:49- Got to, bach, got a stand ticket.

0:01:50 > 0:01:52- But we 'ave so much to do again.

0:01:52 > 0:01:55- I know, you've been fantastic.

0:01:56 > 0:01:58- You've equalled the record.

0:01:58 > 0:02:00- Record?

0:02:00 > 0:02:02- Mmm.

0:02:02 > 0:02:04- You're a Triple Crown girl now.

0:02:05 > 0:02:07- Listen, tell you what.

0:02:07 > 0:02:09- If I come back here - after the match...

0:02:10 > 0:02:13- ..we could make it a Grand Slam, - couldn't we?

0:02:13 > 0:02:14- But why go to match?

0:02:14 > 0:02:17- But why go to match?- - I got to go, bach. I got to see it.

0:02:17 > 0:02:20- But you can see it 'ere, wiz me.

0:02:23 > 0:02:24- Voila!

0:02:27 > 0:02:31- How did you, as a young actress, - fit in with that whole group?

0:02:32 > 0:02:35- Marvellous. I had a wig - to make me look really French.

0:02:36 > 0:02:41- My scenes weren't done in Paris - but at the BBC Club in Newport Road.

0:02:41 > 0:02:43- Gwenlyn had scripted it in Welsh.

0:02:44 > 0:02:46- Gwynne D Evans translated it.

0:02:46 > 0:02:50- It was scripted and rehearsed, - but we did ad-lib.

0:02:50 > 0:02:53- For example, - we ad-libbed a lot in the bedroom.

0:02:53 > 0:02:57- Whilst watching the match...

0:02:57 > 0:02:59- ..Dewi and I were ad-libbing.

0:02:59 > 0:03:03- It was innovative at that time. - Many have since copied it.

0:03:03 > 0:03:08- And then, there was the camerawork, - with lightweight cameras being used.

0:03:08 > 0:03:11- It had a natural look, - fresh and new.

0:03:11 > 0:03:14- You had to do some nude scenes.

0:03:14 > 0:03:19- Was that a difficult experience - for you, as a young actress?

0:03:20 > 0:03:23- John Hefin told me about that - when he offered me the part.

0:03:24 > 0:03:27- I was worried about - how I'd look, of course.

0:03:27 > 0:03:29- But it formed part of the period.

0:03:29 > 0:03:34- The pill had come in the late '60s. - The new idea was sexual equality.

0:03:34 > 0:03:38- Some saw Odette as a prostitute, - but she just liked this bloke...

0:03:39 > 0:03:43- ..and wanted lovely uninhibited sex - with him, on an equal footing.

0:03:44 > 0:03:47- I was a tad optimistic, - because in this age now...

0:03:47 > 0:03:50- ..naked women on cars - are on the cover of FHM.

0:03:51 > 0:03:54- We haven't progressed - as much as I'd have liked.

0:03:55 > 0:03:58- But no, it wasn't a moral problem...

0:03:58 > 0:04:02- ..and I guess it was important - and natural for the role.

0:04:02 > 0:04:04- I don't know why there was a fuss.

0:04:05 > 0:04:06- What did Mam-gu and Tad-cu say?

0:04:06 > 0:04:10- What did Mam-gu and Tad-cu say?- - We didn't tell them it was on!

0:04:11 > 0:04:14- At around the same time, - you were also a presenter.

0:04:14 > 0:04:19- I've always been one who tries new - things and pushes the boundaries.

0:04:19 > 0:04:23- I was doing Seren Wib, - and getting paid some 36 a week.

0:04:23 > 0:04:26- That was a lot back then, - in '76, '77.

0:04:26 > 0:04:30- Let's watch a clip of you - in Seren Wib.

0:04:30 > 0:04:35- You're being taught how to get in - and out of a car in a dignified way.

0:04:38 > 0:04:42- Getting in and out of a car - is the next part of the course.

0:04:43 > 0:04:46- Judy, our trainer, - reminds us of two points.

0:04:46 > 0:04:49- Legs last as you go in. - Legs first as you come out.

0:04:50 > 0:04:52- It's Ceri's turn first.

0:04:53 > 0:04:55- Legs last.

0:04:55 > 0:04:57- And when stepping out...

0:04:57 > 0:05:02- ..remember it's legs first, - and a lovely smile for the cameras.

0:05:03 > 0:05:05- It's my turn now.

0:05:06 > 0:05:11- And the details? Legs last - going in, and legs first coming out.

0:05:11 > 0:05:13- The idea of course is to do this...

0:05:13 > 0:05:17- ..in as smooth and elegant - a way as possible.

0:05:20 > 0:05:22- In, legs last.

0:05:22 > 0:05:26- Mmm, that could have been done - a little better.

0:05:27 > 0:05:30- Out now, to face all those cameras.

0:05:30 > 0:05:35- By the way, this will be invaluable - to you when you're rich and famous.

0:05:36 > 0:05:38- Did that help you?

0:05:39 > 0:05:43- No, but with paparazzi - trying to get shots of knickers...

0:05:43 > 0:05:47- ..as people get in and out of cars, - it'd be handy for celebrities.

0:05:47 > 0:05:49- I loved that red boiler suit!

0:05:50 > 0:05:54- Were you at ease being yourself, - as a change from acting?

0:05:54 > 0:05:58- When I'm acting, - I like being a different person...

0:05:58 > 0:06:03- ..such as Odette in Grand Slam, - and forgetting about myself totally.

0:06:03 > 0:06:07- That's the point of it, I think, - escaping from oneself.

0:06:07 > 0:06:12- We've come on since those days - of etiquette and being ladylike.

0:06:12 > 0:06:16- You're well known - for supporting women's rights.

0:06:16 > 0:06:19- It's been very important for you.

0:06:19 > 0:06:23- It was only when I had my son, - Steffan, in 1980, that I realized...

0:06:24 > 0:06:27- ..what the reality of life - is for women.

0:06:27 > 0:06:31- My own life had changed a lot, - but not my partner's.

0:06:31 > 0:06:34- I feel that feminism - passed us by in Wales.

0:06:34 > 0:06:39- All forms of activism were linked - to the language and nationality.

0:06:39 > 0:06:43- Feminism was looked upon - as an alien, English thing...

0:06:43 > 0:06:45- ..and not relevant to Wales.

0:06:46 > 0:06:49- We've come far, - but there's still a long way to go.

0:06:50 > 0:06:55- This next clip takes us back - to 1981, to Greenham Common.

0:06:59 > 0:07:03- It's 1981, and the first women - arrive at Greenham Common.

0:07:03 > 0:07:07- They had marched from Cardiff - to Newbury to protest against...

0:07:08 > 0:07:13- ..the storage of nuclear missiles - at this military site.

0:07:13 > 0:07:17- Robust protesting followed - and many were arrested...

0:07:17 > 0:07:20- ..at confrontations - near the infamous fence.

0:07:28 > 0:07:30- The protest lasted for 19 years.

0:07:31 > 0:07:35- The women put the topic of peace - on the world's agenda.

0:07:38 > 0:07:41- That was an extremely - strong clip, wasn't it?

0:07:41 > 0:07:45- They were badly treated, - and one woman was killed.

0:07:45 > 0:07:50- We wouldn't see scenes - like that today, of course.

0:07:50 > 0:07:54- It's quieter politically, but - feminism has fed into our society.

0:07:55 > 0:07:58- Domestic violence, - sexual abuse and other issues...

0:07:59 > 0:08:03- ..wouldn't be considered as serious - issues if it weren't for feminism.

0:08:04 > 0:08:06- Did you go to Greenham Common?

0:08:06 > 0:08:09- I didn't because I'd had a baby, - and I was working at the time.

0:08:10 > 0:08:14- I haven't always been free to be - a street protester in that way.

0:08:14 > 0:08:16- I've had jobs and children.

0:08:16 > 0:08:20- But I've tried to include this - spirit in my acting and writing.

0:08:20 > 0:08:24- Setting up the Bara Caws group, - for instance, was a political act.

0:08:25 > 0:08:29- As a sample of your acting work, - you've asked for this next clip.

0:08:29 > 0:08:34- You were an alcoholic, Mary Murphy, - in the series, Tair Chwaer.

0:08:34 > 0:08:36- Why this clip in particular?

0:08:37 > 0:08:40- Mary Murphy was a small part - in Tair Chwaer...

0:08:40 > 0:08:42- ..and she didn't speak much.

0:08:42 > 0:08:46- Every so often she'd go mad - when the drink took over.

0:08:46 > 0:08:51- Here, you see her life, - her hopes and her sadness.

0:08:51 > 0:08:55- She thinks of the things - that she has been unable to achieve.

0:08:55 > 0:09:00- She's afraid, but she can be herself - when she's alone with the piano.

0:09:00 > 0:09:03- Here's a clip of you at the piano.

0:09:32 > 0:09:35- # I was struck blind by the Devil

0:09:36 > 0:09:40- # He took me away to the stars

0:09:41 > 0:09:45- # I cried out all night - for my darling

0:09:45 > 0:09:49- # But the windows - were all locked and barred

0:09:51 > 0:09:54- # He took this young rose - from the garden

0:09:55 > 0:10:00- # He tore it right out of the ground

0:10:01 > 0:10:03- # I traded my soul

0:10:04 > 0:10:07- # For a rainbow of gold

0:10:09 > 0:10:15- # But the rainbows - came tumbling down #

0:10:34 > 0:10:36- You're going out, why?

0:10:37 > 0:10:40- Why are you going out?

0:10:42 > 0:10:43- I want to see someone.

0:10:43 > 0:10:45- I want to see someone.- - To see who?

0:10:47 > 0:10:50- Don't look so stupid. - Who do you want to see?

0:10:50 > 0:10:52- Isn't it a fair question?

0:10:52 > 0:10:55- Who? Who d'you want to see?

0:10:55 > 0:10:58- You've been drinking.

0:11:01 > 0:11:03- No, I haven't been drinking.

0:11:05 > 0:11:08- I have not been drinking.

0:11:15 > 0:11:19- Of course, you won a BAFTA - for playing that role.

0:11:19 > 0:11:24- Is it nice to get recognition - for your acting work?

0:11:25 > 0:11:28- Yes, of course, especially when - it comes from your peers.

0:11:28 > 0:11:31- It's an honour and a privilege.

0:11:31 > 0:11:34- You were with Ray Gravell there.

0:11:34 > 0:11:40- How did you feel beforehand - about acting with Ray Gravell?

0:11:40 > 0:11:43- I had interviewed him - for Seren Wib, as it happens.

0:11:43 > 0:11:45- It was a bit of a shock.

0:11:46 > 0:11:49- I thought to myself, "Oh, dear. - How am I going to do this?"

0:11:50 > 0:11:53- But Ray had a direct - access route to his heart.

0:11:53 > 0:11:55- He knew how to go for the emotions.

0:11:56 > 0:11:59- He hit the emotional bull's-eye - when he was required to do so.

0:12:00 > 0:12:02- He had a difficult part too.

0:12:02 > 0:12:06- He played a gay man, - a murderer, a very mixed-up man.

0:12:06 > 0:12:09- He was excellent, truly excellent.

0:12:09 > 0:12:12- He was wonderful company, of course.

0:12:12 > 0:12:15- I saw you watching yourself there.

0:12:15 > 0:12:19- Are you a harsh judge of yourself - when you view such scenes?

0:12:19 > 0:12:24- Yes. You never reach - where you'd like to get to.

0:12:24 > 0:12:28- Watching that now, it's as if - I was somebody else completely.

0:12:29 > 0:12:33- I don't see me, I see Mary. - I feel a sense of longing for her.

0:12:33 > 0:12:38- I recall the time I spent with her - when she was part of my life.

0:12:38 > 0:12:43- You always hope, well, I do, - that you've transformed yourself.

0:12:43 > 0:12:48- I expect to see someone completely - different, but it never turns out...

0:12:48 > 0:12:53- ..quite as you imagine - when you're acting, it never does.

0:12:53 > 0:12:55- That's it for now. Thanks, Sharon.

0:12:56 > 0:13:00- Join us again in Part Two, - for a protest and a strike.

0:13:03 > 0:13:06- # Remember #

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0:13:16 > 0:13:19- # Remember #

0:13:20 > 0:13:24- Welcome back, - and we'll start the second half...

0:13:24 > 0:13:27- ..in a very exciting period, - the late '60s.

0:13:27 > 0:13:31- Sharon, you were involved - in the excitement and the protests.

0:13:32 > 0:13:35- I was at the university in Cardiff - from '67 to '70.

0:13:35 > 0:13:40- It was the time of the Investiture - and Welsh Language Society demos.

0:13:40 > 0:13:42- But I never went to jail.

0:13:42 > 0:13:47- Apparently, about 2,000 - were imprisoned during that period.

0:13:47 > 0:13:50- They should all receive - an honour, in my view.

0:13:51 > 0:13:53- They made a sacrifice.

0:13:54 > 0:13:57- Were you aware of - the great shift taking place?

0:13:58 > 0:14:01- No, not at the time. - You didn't realize.

0:14:01 > 0:14:05- Certainly, the developments during - that period involving Plaid Cymru...

0:14:06 > 0:14:08- ..and Gwynfor Evans being elected...

0:14:09 > 0:14:13- ..all contributed - towards creating modern Wales.

0:14:13 > 0:14:16- Without them, we wouldn't have - a Senedd building.

0:14:16 > 0:14:18- I still can't believe it's there!

0:14:18 > 0:14:23- That period laid the foundations - for today's democratic Wales.

0:14:23 > 0:14:26- We'll have a clip - of the protests at Cilmeri next.

0:14:31 > 0:14:34- The Welsh Language Society - also gained notoriety in 1969...

0:14:34 > 0:14:37- ..for its anti-Investiture stance.

0:14:37 > 0:14:43- Protest meetings were held, one - in Caernarfon on St David's Day...

0:14:44 > 0:14:47- ..and another in Cilmeri, - just before the Investiture.

0:14:48 > 0:14:51- # Farewell, the bended knee

0:14:52 > 0:14:55- # And licking English boots

0:14:56 > 0:14:59- # Farewell, onerous serfdom

0:15:00 > 0:15:02- # We'll sing in one true voice

0:15:03 > 0:15:06- # To the fields, we'll take our song

0:15:06 > 0:15:10- # Whilst shouting as we're seen

0:15:10 > 0:15:13- # Wales is now on fire

0:15:14 > 0:15:17- # And we'll paint - the whole world green

0:15:17 > 0:15:21- # We'll paint - the whole world green, boys

0:15:21 > 0:15:24- # We'll paint the whole world green

0:15:25 > 0:15:28- # Wales is now on fire, boys

0:15:28 > 0:15:32- # We'll paint the whole world green

0:15:32 > 0:15:36- # We'll paint - the whole world green, boys

0:15:36 > 0:15:39- # We'll paint the whole world green

0:15:39 > 0:15:42- # Wales is now on fire, boys

0:15:43 > 0:15:49- # We'll paint - the whole world green #

0:15:51 > 0:15:55- It's incredible how much - we take for granted now, isn't it?

0:15:56 > 0:15:58- I'm thinking of the language.

0:15:58 > 0:16:00- Yes, we've come a long way.

0:16:00 > 0:16:05- I'm very proud, watching that clip, - of the extent of the activism.

0:16:05 > 0:16:07- It was a happy time, a fun time.

0:16:07 > 0:16:12- There was forever a protest - or a march to attend.

0:16:12 > 0:16:16- We would also gather - outside prisons to support people.

0:16:17 > 0:16:20- It was exciting and, of course, - we knew we were right.

0:16:21 > 0:16:24- We knew we were right, - and we were all young.

0:16:24 > 0:16:29- We were students mainly, although - older people also played their part.

0:16:30 > 0:16:32- We went to Cilmeri in a baby Austin.

0:16:33 > 0:16:35- It belonged to Gruffydd Miles, - I think.

0:16:36 > 0:16:40- I went with boys from the Dyniadon - group, who were fellow students.

0:16:41 > 0:16:45- At Pontrhydfendigaid that same - night, a noson lawen was held.

0:16:45 > 0:16:50- At pop concerts, protest leaders - such as Dafydd Iwan performed songs.

0:16:50 > 0:16:54- There was a homogenous - and integrated feel to it all.

0:16:54 > 0:16:59- You felt you belonged - to a big, strong group of people.

0:17:00 > 0:17:03- There was nothing to stop it.

0:17:03 > 0:17:07- There was a shared ideology. - We'll now move on to the Strike.

0:17:07 > 0:17:11- This took place 15 years later, - the Miners' Strike.

0:17:11 > 0:17:14- Aren't you from a mining family?

0:17:14 > 0:17:18- Yes, Tad-cu was an Amman Valley - collier, as were other relatives.

0:17:19 > 0:17:21- Coal mining is part of my heritage.

0:17:22 > 0:17:27- Let's watch the prominent role - played by women at this time.

0:17:36 > 0:17:38- First of all, - are there any apologies?

0:17:40 > 0:17:42- Glenys?

0:17:42 > 0:17:44- Glenys and Mair, is it?

0:17:44 > 0:17:49- Most of the work entails collecting - money and distributing food...

0:17:50 > 0:17:52- ..to all Cynheidre families.

0:17:52 > 0:17:54- There are nearly 750 in all.

0:17:54 > 0:18:00- The bill comes - to some 3,000 a week.

0:18:00 > 0:18:04- We collect between - 1,000 and 1,500.

0:18:08 > 0:18:12- I don't think these women - are behind the miners...

0:18:12 > 0:18:14- ..or next to the miners.

0:18:15 > 0:18:18- I think they're half a mile - ahead of the miners.

0:18:18 > 0:18:21- They deserve our sincere thanks.

0:18:21 > 0:18:27- This is from the Stratford Footplate - Staff Social and Welfare Club.

0:18:27 > 0:18:30- Dear colleagues, I am pleased - to inform you that the committee...

0:18:30 > 0:18:33- ..have agreed that 300 - should be donated to you...

0:18:33 > 0:18:36- ..so that the children can have - a few presents at Christmas.

0:18:37 > 0:18:40- That man hit the nail on the head...

0:18:40 > 0:18:44- ..when he described - the women's response at that time.

0:18:44 > 0:18:49- They were unbelievable, - and the hardships were awful.

0:18:49 > 0:18:51- I had great respect for them.

0:18:51 > 0:18:55- It transformed the lives - of many of them.

0:18:55 > 0:18:57- Many of them went back to education.

0:18:58 > 0:19:02- Sian James, the MP, - is an example of one who changed.

0:19:03 > 0:19:07- Some positives emerged, - but there was terrible anguish.

0:19:08 > 0:19:12- In the same year as the Strike, - you were playing a dumb blonde.

0:19:13 > 0:19:16- That was in Magnificent Evans, - with Ronnie Barker.

0:19:16 > 0:19:19- What was it like to work with him?

0:19:19 > 0:19:21- It was delightful, in all honesty.

0:19:22 > 0:19:25- I questioned beforehand - whether I should do the job.

0:19:26 > 0:19:30- My friend Ifan Huw Dafydd remarked - that actors had played Hitler.

0:19:30 > 0:19:35- Karl Francis said, "You don't - choose the car, you just drive it."

0:19:35 > 0:19:39- I decided not to tell Ronnie, - who was a bit right wing...

0:19:39 > 0:19:43- ..about feminism, - socialism or nationalism!

0:19:43 > 0:19:45- I feared I'd create a problem.

0:19:46 > 0:19:49- But I was in every scene with him - for four months.

0:19:50 > 0:19:54- You can't work that closely - with someone and not be yourself.

0:19:54 > 0:19:56- We had many interesting chats.

0:19:57 > 0:20:00- Weren't you filming - in front of a live audience?

0:20:01 > 0:20:04- We filmed in mid Wales - for a lengthy period.

0:20:04 > 0:20:08- The studio stuff was done - at Television Centre in London.

0:20:08 > 0:20:13- I had done live audience work - here in Wales, of course.

0:20:13 > 0:20:18- I remember the first studio session, - and he was very nervous.

0:20:18 > 0:20:20- I asked him why he was so nervous.

0:20:20 > 0:20:22- "I've a lot to lose," he replied.

0:20:23 > 0:20:28- He did one other series after that, - but I think he was ready to retire.

0:20:28 > 0:20:32- We have a clip of you - with Ronnie Barker here.

0:20:33 > 0:20:36- Hey, I tell you what, - I've got a present for you.

0:20:40 > 0:20:42- Come and try it on.

0:20:42 > 0:20:44- I couldn't wear that.

0:20:44 > 0:20:47- Well, just on early closing days - around the house.

0:20:48 > 0:20:49- D'you think I could?

0:20:49 > 0:20:51- D'you think I could?- - 'Course you could!

0:20:52 > 0:20:55- By such devices - are the depressions...

0:20:55 > 0:20:59- ..commonly associated - with middle age kept at bay.

0:20:59 > 0:21:00- I'm not middle-aged.

0:21:00 > 0:21:02- I'm not middle-aged.- - No, but I am though, aren't I?

0:21:04 > 0:21:08- My mam would die if she heard - I was wearing a blonde wig.

0:21:08 > 0:21:09- Suits you.

0:21:09 > 0:21:10- Suits you.- - Especially if it suits me.

0:21:11 > 0:21:15- Nobody in my family ever wore - a blonde wig, except Uncle Teilo...

0:21:15 > 0:21:19- ..who went to be a steward - in the Merchant Navy.

0:21:20 > 0:21:22- Yes, I remember him, yes.

0:21:22 > 0:21:25- Shirley Temple, we used to call him.

0:21:27 > 0:21:31- You mentioned that you worked - with him for four months.

0:21:31 > 0:21:33- You got to know him well.

0:21:34 > 0:21:36- Yes, I did, and he was a lovely man.

0:21:36 > 0:21:39- He was so lovely and supportive.

0:21:39 > 0:21:43- I remember early on thinking, - "My God, this is Ronnie Barker!"

0:21:44 > 0:21:46- It was difficult...

0:21:46 > 0:21:48- ..but he made you feel relaxed.

0:21:48 > 0:21:52- I learnt a lot - about comedy and about acting.

0:21:52 > 0:21:56- He would debate with the director - about how best to do a scene.

0:21:56 > 0:22:00- Timing was important - to a perfectionist like him.

0:22:00 > 0:22:02- I was very fond of that dear man.

0:22:02 > 0:22:04- I have happy memories of the series.

0:22:05 > 0:22:08- You've looked back - at your career tonight.

0:22:08 > 0:22:13- You're also in the middle - of writing your autobiography.

0:22:13 > 0:22:16- Yes, I've reached 1985 - or thereabouts!

0:22:16 > 0:22:20- It takes up a lot of time, - but it's an interesting process.

0:22:21 > 0:22:23- Is it a cathartic process?

0:22:23 > 0:22:25- Perhaps it is. Yes, in a way.

0:22:25 > 0:22:28- One tends to forget about things.

0:22:28 > 0:22:31- Reverting to my diaries - has been useful...

0:22:31 > 0:22:35- ..but I don't always - know to whom I'm referring!

0:22:35 > 0:22:40- Yes, it's been very interesting, - and you see things differently now.

0:22:40 > 0:22:45- You think, "That's why," and you - wonder why you thought otherwise.

0:22:45 > 0:22:47- It's extremely interesting.

0:22:47 > 0:22:50- Does upsetting others bother you?

0:22:50 > 0:22:54- That's some responsibility, - the portrayal of other people.

0:22:55 > 0:22:58- It's a major dilemma, - because you want to be honest.

0:22:58 > 0:23:01- At the same time, - you don't wish to hurt anyone.

0:23:02 > 0:23:04- It's a very difficult thing.

0:23:04 > 0:23:08- Thank you for tonight, Sharon. - It's been most interesting.

0:23:08 > 0:23:11- That's all for this evening. - Goodnight.

0:23:18 > 0:23:19- # Remember

0:23:29 > 0:23:32- # Remember #

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