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0:00:02 > 0:00:07- At the end of the 1990s, - Cool Cymru was in full swing.

0:00:07 > 0:00:11- We felt like we were flying the flag - in a new way.

0:00:11 > 0:00:13- It was a world stage for music.

0:00:14 > 0:00:17- These bands are special - and we'll celebrate them.

0:00:17 > 0:00:23- Catatonia, Manic Street Preachers, - Stereophonics, Super Furry Animals.

0:00:24 > 0:00:29- It produced films and actors and - was home to a new National Assembly.

0:00:29 > 0:00:34- We shouted from the rooftops - that we're Welsh!

0:00:34 > 0:00:37- This is the story - of a special time...

0:00:37 > 0:00:41- ..when Wales was cool - at the end of the 20th century.

0:00:49 > 0:00:53- The world saw Manic Street Preachers - at the Millennium Centre...

0:00:53 > 0:00:56- ..as they welcomed the year 2000.

0:00:56 > 0:01:02- Then their single, Masses Against - the Classes, topped the UK charts.

0:01:03 > 0:01:08- After all this success, where next - for the band from Blackwood?

0:01:09 > 0:01:13- We'll take a long time off, not do - any gigs and record the next album.

0:01:13 > 0:01:15- We're not splitting up.

0:01:15 > 0:01:19- My mum called me to ask "You haven't - split up, have you, my love?"

0:01:20 > 0:01:23- I told her she'd be - the first to know if we did.

0:01:24 > 0:01:28- At that time, the Manics - didn't quite know what to do next.

0:01:28 > 0:01:30- They'd had enormous success...

0:01:31 > 0:01:36- ..and there definitely was talk - about whether they could carry on.

0:01:37 > 0:01:39- As the band considered its future...

0:01:39 > 0:01:44- ..James Dean Bradfield started to - perform without his fellow members.

0:01:44 > 0:01:47- He was in the film, - Beautiful Mistake.

0:01:48 > 0:01:50- It was an innovative project...

0:01:50 > 0:01:53- ..with a former Welsh member - of The Velvet Underground.

0:01:54 > 0:01:58- John Cale came back to Wales - during this boom of new music...

0:01:58 > 0:02:02- ..to make the film, Beautiful - Mistake or Camgymeriad Gwych.

0:02:02 > 0:02:07- # The country was full of blood - when the river claimed the streets #

0:02:08 > 0:02:11- He was the coolest man - to have ever come from Wales.

0:02:11 > 0:02:16- That's according to those who - were fans of The Velvet Underground.

0:02:18 > 0:02:21- Super Furry Animals - were also part of the project.

0:02:22 > 0:02:25- They had quite an unexpected - experience with John Cale.

0:02:26 > 0:02:29- We spoke Welsh together, - which was a bit nuts...

0:02:29 > 0:02:32- ..with a member - of The Velvet Underground.

0:02:32 > 0:02:36- You couldn't smoke in the room - because of his history.

0:02:37 > 0:02:39- He'd gone 180 degrees - away from his habits.

0:02:42 > 0:02:45- Gorky's Zygotic Mynci - was another band in the film.

0:02:46 > 0:02:49- They were praised by John Cale - early in their career.

0:02:50 > 0:02:54- Like thousands of others, - he loved their songs.

0:02:54 > 0:02:56- # Night after night #

0:02:56 > 0:03:01- He sang with Julie Murphy - of Fernhill, Derrero and Tystion.

0:03:01 > 0:03:05- # I hate the deceit - I feel like chess piece #

0:03:05 > 0:03:10- These bands were creating music but - would never be on Top of the Pops.

0:03:10 > 0:03:12- They were really good bands.

0:03:13 > 0:03:15- # I feel like a chess piece #

0:03:15 > 0:03:19- It was a great film - and a true portrayal of the age.

0:03:19 > 0:03:22- It showed that there was - more to Wales...

0:03:22 > 0:03:26- ..than just the bands - labelled as Cool Cymru.

0:03:29 > 0:03:35- Over in the USA, the home of John - Cale and The Velvet Underground...

0:03:35 > 0:03:40- ..the confident Welsh planned to - make their mark on the Big Apple.

0:03:42 > 0:03:45- Campari, not cawl, - Bacardi, not laverbread.

0:03:45 > 0:03:47- A party, not a prayer meeting.

0:03:48 > 0:03:52- This was Stifyn Parri launching - a branch of SWS in New York.

0:03:53 > 0:03:56- We were going on holiday - to New York...

0:03:56 > 0:04:01- ..and I decided to create a SWS - whilst we were over there.

0:04:01 > 0:04:05- A launch party took place - at Madonna's favourite night club.

0:04:06 > 0:04:09- Hundreds wanted - to get hold of an invitation.

0:04:09 > 0:04:12- "Sian, - how would I sign up for S-W-S?"

0:04:12 > 0:04:15- "I want to be a member of S-W-S."

0:04:15 > 0:04:20- First there was King Kong, then - Godzilla, now there's SWS New York!

0:04:21 > 0:04:26- So many people turned up, there - were 500 - it was an amazing night.

0:04:28 > 0:04:33- You could feel the buzz, - the Zeitgeist, everyone was there.

0:04:33 > 0:04:34- We have no age limit.

0:04:35 > 0:04:39- Stifyn led the way - and explained the rules of SWS.

0:04:39 > 0:04:43- People of all ages and backgrounds - are welcome!

0:04:43 > 0:04:47- We'll enjoy a social evening - as Welsh people, which is vital.

0:04:49 > 0:04:51- SWS just grew and grew and grew.

0:04:54 > 0:04:56- Hello, here I am, Emyr Penlan.

0:04:56 > 0:05:00- I've travelled all the way - from Cardigan to Downtown LA.

0:05:01 > 0:05:03- Hello, America!

0:05:05 > 0:05:08- The Welshness spread to Los Angeles.

0:05:08 > 0:05:13- In 2000, all the stars were - on the red carpet for the Oscars...

0:05:14 > 0:05:16- ..with a talented bunch from Wales.

0:05:19 > 0:05:23- I hope to see Catherine Zeta, - unless the bump is too big!

0:05:23 > 0:05:26- And Sir Anthony - and shout in Welsh to Rhys Ifans.

0:05:27 > 0:05:32- Representing S4C and Wales - was the film, Solomon a Gaenor.

0:05:33 > 0:05:35- I'm in chapel in the morning...

0:05:35 > 0:05:38- ..and help with the Sunday School - in the afternoon.

0:05:39 > 0:05:41- Set in the South Wales valleys...

0:05:41 > 0:05:45- ..it's a romance between - a local girl and a Jewish boy.

0:05:46 > 0:05:50- It was nominated - for Best Foreign Language Film.

0:05:50 > 0:05:53- It's great to be here again.

0:05:53 > 0:05:56- It's my second time - and S4C's fourth.

0:05:57 > 0:06:00- The stars were Nia Roberts...

0:06:02 > 0:06:04- ..and Ioan Gruffudd.

0:06:04 > 0:06:08- It's high time that we got the - chance to showcase our talents...

0:06:09 > 0:06:11- ..on the international stage.

0:06:13 > 0:06:15- The film might not - have won an Oscar...

0:06:16 > 0:06:19- ..but one Welshman felt - that he had won the jackpot.

0:06:20 > 0:06:24- I have a few hours before I get back - to work in the morning in Mexico.

0:06:24 > 0:06:26- Can I come with you?

0:06:26 > 0:06:27- Can I come with you?- - Yes!

0:06:27 > 0:06:28- Goodbye.

0:06:28 > 0:06:29- Goodbye.- - Right, I'm off!

0:06:35 > 0:06:38- # Want some whisky in your water? #

0:06:39 > 0:06:44- He was world-famous and to some, - the coolest Welshman of all time.

0:06:45 > 0:06:50- He hadn't had a hit for a decade - but things were about to change.

0:06:51 > 0:06:53- # Mama told me not to come #

0:06:53 > 0:06:55- Tom Jones recorded Reload.

0:06:55 > 0:06:57- # Mama told me not to come #

0:06:58 > 0:06:59- Everyone loved it.

0:07:00 > 0:07:03- # That ain't the way to have fun, - son #

0:07:04 > 0:07:06- Cerys sang with Tom Jones.

0:07:07 > 0:07:10- Stereophonics sang - Mama Told Me Not to Come.

0:07:10 > 0:07:12- Reload was a huge album.

0:07:13 > 0:07:15- It had come full circle.

0:07:16 > 0:07:22- Tom from 1960s Treforest became - a star but wasn't so cool anymore.

0:07:22 > 0:07:24- But then these new bands said...

0:07:24 > 0:07:27- .."No, you're still cool, - you are Tom Jones.

0:07:27 > 0:07:31- "You can do what you want, and, - of course, we'll sing with you."

0:07:32 > 0:07:37- # That ain't the way to have fun, - son - ain't the way to have fun #

0:07:40 > 0:07:45- After the successful albums, Fuzzy - Logic, Radiator and Guerrilla...

0:07:45 > 0:07:49- ..Super Furry Animals - had built up quite a following.

0:07:51 > 0:07:56- # We had some sunny intervals #

0:07:56 > 0:07:59- They had stayed loyal - to Creation Records...

0:08:00 > 0:08:03- ..but when it folded, - the Furries saw an opportunity.

0:08:03 > 0:08:07- They created that momentum - over three albums...

0:08:07 > 0:08:11- ..but before joining Sony, they - released one on their own label.

0:08:12 > 0:08:15- Instead of an expensive place - in England...

0:08:15 > 0:08:20- ..they went to Anglesey, to the Ofn - Studios, Rhosneigr and Gorwel Owen.

0:08:23 > 0:08:25- They were really simple songs...

0:08:26 > 0:08:29- ..that were done really quickly - at Gorwel's place.

0:08:30 > 0:08:32- It took us ten days - to record that album.

0:08:33 > 0:08:37- You can spend 1M recording an album - but if you don't have good songs...

0:08:38 > 0:08:41- ..it's going to sound crap - no matter how much it costs.

0:08:41 > 0:08:44- You can't put a price - on a good song.

0:08:45 > 0:08:47- # The feeling #

0:08:48 > 0:08:54- Some of the songs, like Y Teimlad - and Dacw Hi, were familiar ones.

0:08:54 > 0:08:56- There's an ancient feel to it.

0:08:57 > 0:09:02- It sounds like a mixture - of the sixties, seventies...

0:09:02 > 0:09:04- ..eighties and nineties.

0:09:05 > 0:09:11- It reached No.11 in the charts and - was recorded like a live session.

0:09:11 > 0:09:16- Mwng was groundbreaking - because it was entirely in Welsh.

0:09:17 > 0:09:20- They took those Welsh songs - across the globe.

0:09:20 > 0:09:24- Welcome back to the show, - from Wales, Super Furry Animals.

0:09:24 > 0:09:27- # They say we're peripheral

0:09:27 > 0:09:31- # Spineless and feeble, - roughneck and alien

0:09:32 > 0:09:35- # It's so cool - in the eye of the fountain

0:09:35 > 0:09:40- # But the periphery - sustains all the nettles #

0:09:40 > 0:09:45- Welsh was part and parcel - of every day life for the Furries.

0:09:45 > 0:09:48- This was such a natural step - to take.

0:09:48 > 0:09:53- We made the record because - we had a collection of Welsh songs.

0:09:53 > 0:09:56- We didn't make a Welsh album...

0:09:56 > 0:10:00- ..to make up for the fact - that we'd made three English ones.

0:10:04 > 0:10:08- A lot of important Welsh music - had already been written...

0:10:08 > 0:10:10- ..but no-one knew about it.

0:10:10 > 0:10:15- However, after Mwng, - people could go back and listen...

0:10:15 > 0:10:18- ..to the stuff that influenced - the Super Furries.

0:10:19 > 0:10:23- Mwng is amongst people's favourite - albums, maybe even their favourite.

0:10:24 > 0:10:28- That's despite not understanding - what the Furries are singing about.

0:10:32 > 0:10:35- Mwng was a good way - of silencing their critics.

0:10:35 > 0:10:38- The people - who had called them traitors.

0:10:38 > 0:10:43- Mwng was a strong declaration of a - confidence in the Welsh language...

0:10:43 > 0:10:46- ..and in the band itself.

0:10:47 > 0:10:52- It really shows how important - this album really was.

0:10:52 > 0:10:57- What the Furries did - is something to be treasured.

0:10:57 > 0:11:01- Thank you very much, - Super Furry Animals.

0:11:01 > 0:11:03- Joining the Periphery.

0:11:03 > 0:11:06- As one band enjoyed more success...

0:11:06 > 0:11:10- ..another one's future - was hanging in the balance.

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0:11:18 > 0:11:22- In February 2001, to mark their - reappearance on the live scene...

0:11:22 > 0:11:27- ..the Manics went to the land of - cigars, communism and Castro - Cuba.

0:11:27 > 0:11:33- The controversial gig was the first - of its kind by a major Western band.

0:11:33 > 0:11:38- Some of the things that the Manics - achieved were truly mind-blowing.

0:11:38 > 0:11:41- Which other band - would have played in Cuba?

0:11:41 > 0:11:46- Fidel Castro was backstage - saying their music transcended war.

0:11:46 > 0:11:50- They were more likely to shake - his hand than some world leaders.

0:11:51 > 0:11:54- They understand how to create - those historic events.

0:11:54 > 0:11:58- Events that excite - and make people think.

0:11:58 > 0:12:01- We're a band that's taken chances - with our career.

0:12:02 > 0:12:05- People thought it was folly - to go to Cuba and meet Castro.

0:12:06 > 0:12:10- I remember seeing them on TV - when they were over there.

0:12:10 > 0:12:15- It wasn't really glitzy - but it was a bit showbizzy for them.

0:12:16 > 0:12:20- Someone had to do it, so why not - be the first band to play Cuba.

0:12:26 > 0:12:28- It was right to go to Cuba.

0:12:28 > 0:12:33- It corresponded with their beliefs - when they started out.

0:12:33 > 0:12:38- Their achievements came about - through vision and determination.

0:12:38 > 0:12:41- # If you tolerate this

0:12:41 > 0:12:44- # Then your children will be next #

0:12:46 > 0:12:51- Catatonia was another band - with a strong vision.

0:12:51 > 0:12:54- After huge success, - two No.1 selling albums...

0:12:55 > 0:12:57- ..and top ten singles - like Road Rage...

0:12:58 > 0:13:02- ..in 2000, Catatonia - were nowhere to be seen.

0:13:02 > 0:13:04- # Losing your mind #

0:13:05 > 0:13:07- Tours to the USA were cancelled...

0:13:07 > 0:13:12- ..and there were reports of health - problems for Cerys Matthews.

0:13:13 > 0:13:17- I went a bit mad - after all the success!

0:13:18 > 0:13:22- # On common ground - we'll build our castle walls #

0:13:22 > 0:13:28- By the start of 2001, the group - had recorded their fourth album.

0:13:28 > 0:13:33- Paper Scissors Stone was recorded - at Rockfield Studios in Monmouth.

0:13:33 > 0:13:38- They played a few gigs during that - summer but things weren't right.

0:13:38 > 0:13:42- That's where we went wrong - - we didn't record it here.

0:13:42 > 0:13:45- The vibe had gone.

0:13:46 > 0:13:50- We did our best work in this room - at the Monnow Valley Studios.

0:13:51 > 0:13:52- But then we...

0:13:53 > 0:13:56- We somehow messed around - with the formula.

0:13:57 > 0:13:59- Yes, there was...

0:13:59 > 0:14:04- Something had been lost, that's all - it was, something had been lost.

0:14:04 > 0:14:10- I remember seeing Cerys at the - launch of Paper Scissors Stone.

0:14:10 > 0:14:16- She didn't look like a person - who was enjoying the life.

0:14:17 > 0:14:19- I wasn't happy.

0:14:19 > 0:14:24- I wasn't getting the buzz - I used to get out of it.

0:14:24 > 0:14:27- Our time had come to an end. - That's all it was.

0:14:27 > 0:14:30- At the time, we fought against it.

0:14:30 > 0:14:34- If we could get the album out, - then everything would work out.

0:14:34 > 0:14:38- I sort of knew - at the back of my mind...

0:14:38 > 0:14:42- ..that the game was over.

0:14:44 > 0:14:48- The end still came as a bit - of a shock for the band members.

0:14:48 > 0:14:52- In the way these things work, - I didn't know we had broken up!

0:14:53 > 0:14:56- A Western Mail reporter - called me for my reaction...

0:14:56 > 0:15:01- ..to Warner Bros' press release - stating that Catatonia had split.

0:15:01 > 0:15:04- I didn't know we'd broken up!

0:15:06 > 0:15:07- And that was that!

0:15:08 > 0:15:11- Thank you very much for coming - and God bless you all.

0:15:12 > 0:15:15- As Catatonia split up, - the Cool Cymru hype was also over.

0:15:16 > 0:15:21- During these years, it wasn't only - Wales' image that had changed.

0:15:21 > 0:15:25- The technological world - was also developing quickly.

0:15:25 > 0:15:31- I remember that the Internet and - Information Superhighway existed.

0:15:32 > 0:15:37- But it was in no way a part - of anyone's day-to-day life.

0:15:37 > 0:15:40- Twenty years ago, - there was no Internet.

0:15:41 > 0:15:44- We could play in TJ's and - sell it out and we did to 300 kids.

0:15:45 > 0:15:47- Nobody knew further than Cardiff.

0:15:47 > 0:15:50- You might know - if you lived in Cardiff...

0:15:50 > 0:15:54- ..but you wouldn't know necessarily - in Swansea or London.

0:15:55 > 0:15:58- You couldn't do that today - because of social media.

0:15:59 > 0:16:02- The technology shaped - a thriving creative industry.

0:16:03 > 0:16:08- Film, design and the transformation - of the way music was produced.

0:16:08 > 0:16:12- The days of recording in a studio - for six months were long gone.

0:16:17 > 0:16:22- There was a technological explosion - at the end of the nineties.

0:16:22 > 0:16:27- The way of making records changed - very quickly and is still changing.

0:16:28 > 0:16:31- You can literally - make a record on your phone.

0:16:31 > 0:16:36- People would splice tapes and hope - it would be in the right place.

0:16:37 > 0:16:41- It took ages and now you can - do it in five seconds - done!

0:16:42 > 0:16:44- The music world has changed.

0:16:44 > 0:16:50- The way we listen to - and discover music has also changed.

0:16:54 > 0:16:56- Despite the huge changes...

0:16:57 > 0:17:02- ..some places remain familiar - and are a reminder of the past.

0:17:03 > 0:17:08- This is the new home of Spillers in - Cardiff. It used to be on the Hayes.

0:17:08 > 0:17:12- Back in the nineties, - they would sell CDs...

0:17:13 > 0:17:16- ..and they still sell CDs - by bands from Wales.

0:17:17 > 0:17:19- It's the oldest in the world.

0:17:19 > 0:17:23- You will recognize the t-shirts, - mugs and baby grows.

0:17:24 > 0:17:27- I saw Robbie Williams here - at the end of the nineties.

0:17:28 > 0:17:29- He'd just left Take That.

0:17:30 > 0:17:34- They sold him a copy of Fuzzy Logic - by Super Furry Animals.

0:17:35 > 0:17:37- People took his photo - as he left the shop.

0:17:38 > 0:17:42- Together with Clwb Ifor Bach in - Cardiff, this is an important place.

0:17:42 > 0:17:45- It's one place bands will visit.

0:17:45 > 0:17:50- In a world of downloading and live - streaming, it's still important.

0:17:52 > 0:17:55- Like Clwb Ifor Bach and Spillers...

0:17:56 > 0:18:01- ..bands from the nineties are going - strong and playing to huge crowds.

0:18:03 > 0:18:06- Since arriving - on the scene in '97...

0:18:06 > 0:18:10- ..Stereophonics - has had six No.1 albums.

0:18:13 > 0:18:17- In the grand scheme of - Rock 'n' Roll, we're pretty young.

0:18:17 > 0:18:20- The Who and McCartney - are still going.

0:18:20 > 0:18:24- Meeting these people - gives you an inspired feeling...

0:18:25 > 0:18:27- ..that you can do this for as long - as you want.

0:18:28 > 0:18:31- It doesn't seem to die - in people's hearts.

0:18:31 > 0:18:34- # Every night - they're doing just the same #

0:18:35 > 0:18:36- Fans keep changing.

0:18:36 > 0:18:39- The front row could be 15-year-olds.

0:18:39 > 0:18:41- At the back, people from 1996.

0:18:41 > 0:18:44- # So Mr and Mrs Smith

0:18:44 > 0:18:46- # Come down #

0:18:47 > 0:18:52- Coming from Wales, it's 20 years - we've been travelling the world.

0:18:52 > 0:18:55- We've seen lots of different things.

0:18:55 > 0:18:59- We always go back - and still call it home.

0:19:00 > 0:19:04- It's a big part of your life when - you come from a place like that.

0:19:04 > 0:19:08- # All lined up for you in the bar, - paint the town #

0:19:11 > 0:19:15- The Manics are still going - and inspiring a new generation.

0:19:15 > 0:19:20- They provided the soundtrack for - Wales' celebrations at Euro 2016...

0:19:21 > 0:19:23- ..with the song, Together Stronger.

0:19:24 > 0:19:25- # So come on Wales #

0:19:26 > 0:19:30- Everything they went through with - Richey and The Holy Bible period.

0:19:30 > 0:19:36- They've had more highs and lows than - any other Welsh band has ever had.

0:19:36 > 0:19:39- Their determination to survive...

0:19:39 > 0:19:44- ..and their ability - to sell out arenas and stadiums...

0:19:44 > 0:19:47- ..is something - Wales can be proud of.

0:19:47 > 0:19:50- # So come on Wales

0:19:51 > 0:19:53- # So come on Wales #

0:19:53 > 0:19:57- We were never as calculated as - people thought we were at the start.

0:19:58 > 0:20:00- People said we were hype, - and we weren't.

0:20:00 > 0:20:05- We just weren't from London but - from Wales and grew up in a vacuum.

0:20:05 > 0:20:07- We were a bit bonkers at the start.

0:20:08 > 0:20:11- # Together Stronger, - we'll win if we unite #

0:20:13 > 0:20:15- # Bing, bong, bing, bong #

0:20:16 > 0:20:21- This year's Euros also inspired - the Furries to release Bing Bong.

0:20:21 > 0:20:26- It shows they're still pushing - the boundaries in their unique way.

0:20:26 > 0:20:28- Why are they still together?

0:20:28 > 0:20:32- Our problem - is that we're still friends.

0:20:33 > 0:20:37- I can't imagine better people - to hang out with.

0:20:39 > 0:20:41- The Furries, more than anyone...

0:20:42 > 0:20:47- ..have managed to profess - their Welshness.

0:20:47 > 0:20:51- They've achieved something - without waving flags.

0:20:52 > 0:20:55- # Bing, bong, bing bong #

0:20:55 > 0:20:57- It's an adventure.

0:20:57 > 0:21:00- We started in our early twenties.

0:21:00 > 0:21:05- We're still relatively functional - as people and as a unit.

0:21:12 > 0:21:13- Cool Cymru.

0:21:14 > 0:21:15- What was Cool Cymru?

0:21:16 > 0:21:18- It was a long-awaited explosion...

0:21:19 > 0:21:23- ..that brought innovation, success - and celebration to Wales.

0:21:24 > 0:21:28- Wales wouldn't have chosen - the phrase, Cool Cymru.

0:21:28 > 0:21:30- I don't it was a movement.

0:21:30 > 0:21:35- It was a few good bands at the same - time being noticed outside Wales.

0:21:35 > 0:21:39- A bunch of groups broke out - on their own terms.

0:21:39 > 0:21:43- The Furries, Gorky's, Catatonia...

0:21:44 > 0:21:48- ..Manics, 'Phonics and 60 Ft. Dolls - were all from Wales...

0:21:48 > 0:21:50- ..but they all had their own sound.

0:21:51 > 0:21:54- Everyone talked about them - and they were on the news.

0:21:55 > 0:21:59- You couldn't move for journalists - championing the new music.

0:22:00 > 0:22:05- With money flowing from the music - industry, anything was possible.

0:22:05 > 0:22:08- I'm glad that the money - from that time...

0:22:09 > 0:22:13- ..has helped to nurture new careers.

0:22:13 > 0:22:18- I'm glad that people saw beyond - Britain and took music to the world.

0:22:25 > 0:22:28- The success of the bands - made people realize...

0:22:29 > 0:22:34- ..that the culture and music - industry within Wales was important.

0:22:34 > 0:22:39- It was possible to come from Wales - and to be successful.

0:22:41 > 0:22:44- It's unlike any other period - in Welsh music.

0:22:45 > 0:22:47- It was a great time, as it is today.

0:22:48 > 0:22:50- Wales has more music festivals...

0:22:50 > 0:22:54- ..more events, more gigs and bands.

0:22:54 > 0:23:00- It's more exciting now than it - ever was back in the nineties.

0:23:00 > 0:23:05- We need someone to usurp James...

0:23:06 > 0:23:09- ..and Kelly and Gruff.

0:23:09 > 0:23:13- We need someone new to say - "Get out of the way."

0:23:13 > 0:23:16- This is a new way - of looking at Wales.

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