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0:00:00 > 0:00:03- This programme - has an international flavour.

0:00:03 > 0:00:05- She lives in Cheshire...

0:00:05 > 0:00:09- ..but Helen Havard Griffiths's - clothes are French.

0:00:10 > 0:00:13- Hugh Edwin Jones travels - even further to buy clothes.

0:00:14 > 0:00:18- Sian Hughes Cook's knickers and bras - are sold all over the world.

0:00:18 > 0:00:20- She designed them!

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0:00:43 > 0:00:48- Who knows what secrets lurk behind - the lace curtains of suburbia?

0:00:50 > 0:00:55- I'm very fortunate to have married a - man who has no interest in clothes.

0:00:56 > 0:01:00- He doesn't notice - if I have two similar coats.

0:01:00 > 0:01:02- He thinks it's the same one!

0:01:02 > 0:01:06- I have a brown mack and a black mack - but he hasn't noticed.

0:01:08 > 0:01:12- Helen Havard Griffiths - is having an affair...

0:01:12 > 0:01:14- ..with France.

0:01:14 > 0:01:18- Her children know - and so does Gareth, her husband.

0:01:29 > 0:01:31- We lived in Paris for two years.

0:01:32 > 0:01:35- That gave me ample time - to grow to love French fashion.

0:01:36 > 0:01:38- French fashion is very feminine.

0:01:39 > 0:01:44- Ladies wear lots of layers - and different fabrics, too.

0:01:45 > 0:01:47- Hiya, Helen. How are you?

0:01:47 > 0:01:49- Hiya, Helen. How are you?- - Hello. Come in.

0:01:49 > 0:01:54- I wear the clothes most women - would wear to go out at night...

0:01:54 > 0:01:57- ..to pick up the children - from school.

0:01:58 > 0:02:01- I also have an opportunity - to wear fancy clothes...

0:02:02 > 0:02:04- ..in my work, as a harpist.

0:02:04 > 0:02:08- I don't follow fashion. - I follow my own fashion.

0:02:08 > 0:02:12- I tend to keep things for years - because my style doesn't date.

0:02:14 > 0:02:19- I don't seek to buy - the famous designers' clothes...

0:02:19 > 0:02:22- ..but I'm drawn to - certain designers.

0:02:25 > 0:02:29- When you look through my wardrobe, - four names keep cropping up.

0:02:29 > 0:02:35- Jus d'Orange, Derri, - Cottonade and Zone Bleue.

0:02:36 > 0:02:38- This is the spare room.

0:02:38 > 0:02:41- I keep my everyday clothes in here.

0:02:43 > 0:02:47- They're very smart. They don't - look like everyday clothes.

0:02:48 > 0:02:51- You're wearing - a lovely outfit today.

0:02:51 > 0:02:54- I love those - three-quarter length trousers.

0:02:55 > 0:02:59- This is a great outfit, - by Jus d'Orange.

0:02:59 > 0:03:02- Is there anything else - by Jus d'Orange in here?

0:03:03 > 0:03:06- Yes, quite a few, - including these trousers...

0:03:06 > 0:03:10- ..which I bought in Paris - two or three years ago.

0:03:10 > 0:03:12- I wear them with this jacket.

0:03:13 > 0:03:17- It has a spiral of ruffles - on the front, as you can see.

0:03:17 > 0:03:21- The top I wear under the jacket - has ruffles, too.

0:03:29 > 0:03:33- I've been wearing berets - in the winter for a few years.

0:03:34 > 0:03:39- I buy cheap berets in France - and I like to decorate them myself.

0:03:40 > 0:03:44- It's important to me that my beret - matches my clothes.

0:03:45 > 0:03:48- It must also complement - my shoes and my bag.

0:03:49 > 0:03:52- Your daughters - are fans of the beret, too.

0:03:52 > 0:03:57- Yes, parents tend to struggle to - get their children to wear hats...

0:03:57 > 0:04:02- ..but mine started young and - they wear berets to go to school.

0:04:04 > 0:04:08- It can be an obsession - and it creates problems for me.

0:04:08 > 0:04:12- My daughters kick up a fuss - if their clothes don't match.

0:04:12 > 0:04:17- They're at an age now where - they know what goes well together.

0:04:20 > 0:04:23- If they were home with their father - and I was away...

0:04:24 > 0:04:28- ..they'd wear funny things, - including each other's clothes.

0:04:32 > 0:04:36- Does the white dress go with - the white shoes and the white bag?

0:04:37 > 0:04:38- Yes, that's right.

0:04:39 > 0:04:43- I buy things from different shops - but they go together.

0:04:45 > 0:04:47- I bought the dress, - then the cardigan.

0:04:48 > 0:04:52- I came across a shop - in Llandrillo-yn-Rhos one Sunday...

0:04:52 > 0:04:56- ..and I saw the bag and the shoes - in the window.

0:04:56 > 0:05:00- The shop was closed and I was - only passing through the town.

0:05:01 > 0:05:04- I mentioned it to my parents and, - fair play to them...

0:05:05 > 0:05:08- ..they phoned me a few weeks later - from that very shop.

0:05:09 > 0:05:13- They wanted to make sure I realised - there was some yellow on the bag.

0:05:14 > 0:05:19- They were worried I wouldn't want it - because of the yellow...

0:05:19 > 0:05:21- ..but I was already aware of that.

0:05:21 > 0:05:26- They bought the bag and the shoes - and gave them to me, as a present.

0:05:30 > 0:05:33- Very few people - buy clothes for me...

0:05:34 > 0:05:36- ..not even my parents, - who know my taste.

0:05:37 > 0:05:42- Poor Gareth! I sometimes pick on him - for not giving me a surprise...

0:05:42 > 0:05:47- ..but it would be impossible for him - to buy something to my taste.

0:05:49 > 0:05:52- I'm part of a duet, - with a woman who plays the flute.

0:05:53 > 0:05:57- We talk the week before a concert - to decide what we'll wear.

0:05:57 > 0:06:02- I make sure her outfit - goes with the outfit I plan to wear.

0:06:04 > 0:06:07- Do you keep different clothes - in this wardrobe?

0:06:07 > 0:06:11- Yes, these are my work clothes. - My performance clothes.

0:06:11 > 0:06:14- I bought these quite recently.

0:06:14 > 0:06:15- I love this design.

0:06:16 > 0:06:18- It matches my style perfectly.

0:06:19 > 0:06:24- I couldn't find something to match - the skirt, so I bought this dress.

0:06:24 > 0:06:29- I decided to put the dress with the - skirt and wear the dress as a top.

0:06:31 > 0:06:35- I already owned this bag, - so I put them all together.

0:06:46 > 0:06:49- I must ask you about these roses.

0:06:49 > 0:06:52- What sparked your interest in them?

0:06:52 > 0:06:54- What sparked your interest in them?- - I just think they're feminine.

0:06:54 > 0:06:58- They add texture to the - item of clothing, so it isn't flat.

0:06:58 > 0:07:01- They're interesting and they're fun.

0:07:05 > 0:07:07- I wear full length dresses...

0:07:08 > 0:07:12- ..and I often wear trousers and - a very fancy top to play the harp.

0:07:15 > 0:07:20- I was travelling back, through - France, when I saw this in Troyes.

0:07:21 > 0:07:25- It struck me as being interesting - and unusual.

0:07:25 > 0:07:28- I wore it when I played at a wedding - a few days later.

0:07:29 > 0:07:30- I've worn it many times.

0:07:31 > 0:07:34- It isn't easy - to get hold of this brand...

0:07:34 > 0:07:38- ..but I've now tracked down - their headquarters, in Paris.

0:07:38 > 0:07:40- They mostly sell to shops...

0:07:41 > 0:07:44- ..but I persuaded them to let me in, - with my daughters.

0:07:47 > 0:07:51- I bought this handy blouse, - which can be formal and informal.

0:07:52 > 0:07:53- This is a great mack.

0:07:53 > 0:07:56- The roses theme - continues in this mack.

0:07:56 > 0:08:00- I was travelling - in an open-top bus around Madrid...

0:08:00 > 0:08:05- ..at a time when they were - getting ready for a royal wedding.

0:08:06 > 0:08:09- There were decorations - and flowers around the city.

0:08:10 > 0:08:13- I was wearing summery clothes - and it started to rain.

0:08:14 > 0:08:17- It was raining cats and dogs - and I was on this bus!

0:08:17 > 0:08:20- I hopped off the bus - and I ran into a shop.

0:08:21 > 0:08:25- I found this, I put it on and I - got back on the bus and carried on.

0:08:26 > 0:08:30- Only you could have found - a pretty coat, decorated with roses.

0:08:31 > 0:08:35- Most people would have found - a bit of plastic or bought a kagoul!

0:08:35 > 0:08:39- If I spend money, - I'll spend on things that will last.

0:08:48 > 0:08:51- Do British clothes disappoint you?

0:08:52 > 0:08:55- I can't find the feminine styles - that I love.

0:08:56 > 0:09:00- Perhaps British clothes - are more practical...

0:09:01 > 0:09:04- ..but my clothes are practical, - in my eyes.

0:09:06 > 0:09:10- When I go on holiday, - I pack all my co-ordinating shoes.

0:09:10 > 0:09:14- I have a suitcase full of - Bensimon pumps, from France.

0:09:14 > 0:09:19- I can't imagine going on holiday - without taking them all with me.

0:09:19 > 0:09:22- I always leave room - in my suitcase...

0:09:22 > 0:09:26- ..for the items I'll buy - for the following season.

0:09:29 > 0:09:31- My clothes make me feel happy.

0:09:31 > 0:09:35- They're French - and I love all things French...

0:09:36 > 0:09:39- ..so they make me feel very content.

0:09:54 > 0:09:58- People say you shouldn't mix - business and pleasure.

0:09:58 > 0:10:00- As he travels the world...

0:10:01 > 0:10:06- ..Hugh Edwin Jones has blurred - the boundaries, even in Caernarfon!

0:10:15 > 0:10:18- The Hawaiian shirts - are connected to my work.

0:10:19 > 0:10:24- I worked for the Film Commission - and I visited America frequently.

0:10:27 > 0:10:30- I wore this shirt - when I was in America...

0:10:30 > 0:10:34- ..trying to persuade producers - to come and film in Wales.

0:10:34 > 0:10:37- I tried to be one of the gang...

0:10:37 > 0:10:42- ..in this shirt, white trousers, - shoes with no socks and sunglasses!

0:10:43 > 0:10:44- Sunglasses were part of the look?

0:10:44 > 0:10:45- Sunglasses were part of the look?- - Absolutely.

0:10:45 > 0:10:48- Even if they were just on your head?

0:10:48 > 0:10:51- Even if they were just on your head?- - Yes, on your head, not your eyes!

0:10:53 > 0:10:56- I bought two of these from Burton, - many moons ago.

0:10:57 > 0:11:00- They helped me blend in - when I was in America.

0:11:02 > 0:11:07- Even a few Americans teased me about - dressing to fit in with the locals!

0:11:09 > 0:11:12- I built on that, - to a certain extent.

0:11:17 > 0:11:19- I wore this shirt on honeymoon.

0:11:19 > 0:11:24- We tied the knot in Las Vegas, - which was a wonderful experience.

0:11:25 > 0:11:29- Everyone wore this sort of shirt, - so I felt at home there.

0:11:31 > 0:11:36- If you dressed a certain way to - fit in with the locals in America...

0:11:37 > 0:11:42- ..those very clothes make you - stand out if you wear them in Wales.

0:11:44 > 0:11:49- I've raised a few eyebrows - within the local government system!

0:11:49 > 0:11:54- However, most people accepted - that I work in a field...

0:11:54 > 0:11:59- ..that was slightly removed from - the council's basic work.

0:11:59 > 0:12:02- There was - a general acceptance of me...

0:12:05 > 0:12:07- ..as a round peg in a square hole.

0:12:10 > 0:12:14- The clothes in here are linked to - the countries I've visited.

0:12:16 > 0:12:20- This has connections with - the film industry.

0:12:21 > 0:12:26- I travelled to India to study - the Bollywood film industry.

0:12:28 > 0:12:32- The producer worked in Bollywood, - so I visited him.

0:12:35 > 0:12:38- He took me to Marks and Spencer, - in Bollywood.

0:12:38 > 0:12:43- We went around the shop - and he bought this for me.

0:12:43 > 0:12:47- He wanted me to wear this to a party - he'd organised one evening.

0:12:47 > 0:12:52- His mother, who was in her 80s, - had come down from the mountains...

0:12:52 > 0:12:54- ..to meet this man from Wales.

0:12:55 > 0:12:56- Do you wear it often?

0:12:56 > 0:12:58- Do you wear it often?- - I wear it on Sunday evenings.

0:13:01 > 0:13:05- I hope to wear it next year, - when we go on holiday to Goa.

0:13:06 > 0:13:10- You'll wear your Kurta pyjamas - when you're on holiday in Goa.

0:13:10 > 0:13:11- That's lovely!

0:13:11 > 0:13:12- That's lovely!- - Yes.

0:13:13 > 0:13:17- The next garment - has no connection with my work.

0:13:18 > 0:13:22- I went on holiday to Egypt - and I bought this in Cairo.

0:13:25 > 0:13:29- When I wear it, I can picture myself - back in the shop in Cairo...

0:13:30 > 0:13:33- ..surrounded by hundreds of people.

0:13:33 > 0:13:38- I haggled with the owner and his - starting price was extremely high.

0:13:38 > 0:13:42- We eventually agreed a fair price - for both of us.

0:13:42 > 0:13:47- I hadn't planned to buy it - but I ended up buying this outfit.

0:13:52 > 0:13:55- I enjoy wearing these clothes.

0:13:57 > 0:14:00- They give me access - to some wonderful memories.

0:14:01 > 0:14:05- They give me an opportunity - to relive some experiences...

0:14:05 > 0:14:08- ..which may otherwise - have been forgotten.

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0:14:27 > 0:14:30- I'm quite fussy - when it comes to underwear.

0:14:31 > 0:14:37- I look at my outerwear first, - then I choose underwear to match it.

0:14:40 > 0:14:45- I like underwear that has - lots of intricate details.

0:14:48 > 0:14:54- I consider the fantasy element - and the fun element when I design.

0:15:16 > 0:15:20- There's an element of respectability - about suburbia.

0:15:20 > 0:15:23- Sian Hughes-Cooke - is a prime example.

0:15:24 > 0:15:28- She lives with Neil, her husband, - and William, their son.

0:15:29 > 0:15:32- She designs underwear - and she works from home.

0:15:37 > 0:15:41- When I was in Paris, I was - headhunted by Calvin Klein...

0:15:41 > 0:15:44- ..and I worked for them for a year, - in New York.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49- I then - went to work for Victoria's Secret.

0:15:49 > 0:15:53- It's the biggest lingerie company - in America.

0:15:54 > 0:15:58- There are 900 Victoria's Secret - shops across America.

0:16:01 > 0:16:03- This is part of my portfolio.

0:16:03 > 0:16:06- These designs appeared in Vogue...

0:16:06 > 0:16:09- ..and in - the Victoria's Secret catalogue.

0:16:09 > 0:16:14- This sequinned top - was featured in German Vogue.

0:16:14 > 0:16:17- I designed this - especially for Christmas.

0:16:18 > 0:16:22- I fell in love with this fabric - but it was a little bit too bling.

0:16:22 > 0:16:28- I covered it in mesh, to make it - more subtle and sophisticated.

0:16:28 > 0:16:32- More practical, too, because it - stops the sequins from snagging.

0:16:34 > 0:16:37- You can see that one, - in the catalogue.

0:16:38 > 0:16:42- It must be incredible to see - some of your work in Vogue.

0:16:43 > 0:16:47- Having designs featured in Vogue - gives you huge credibility.

0:16:47 > 0:16:50- Yes, it made me feel quite happy.

0:16:51 > 0:16:56- I was flicking through OK! and - I saw a photo of Britney Spears...

0:16:56 > 0:16:59- ..wearing that design, in purple.

0:16:59 > 0:17:02- She was wearing it - under a black shirt.

0:17:02 > 0:17:06- It made me laugh and I thought, - "Ooh! I designed that bra."

0:17:24 > 0:17:28- I look at all sorts of things - to get my inspiration.

0:17:28 > 0:17:32- I start with a colour palette - and a theme...

0:17:32 > 0:17:35- ..and I see - what looks nice together.

0:17:41 > 0:17:43- This is Versailles embroidery.

0:17:44 > 0:17:49- I saw this embroidery - on the film, 'Sleepy Hollow'...

0:17:50 > 0:17:53- ..and I knew - it would make a lovely corset.

0:18:00 > 0:18:04- When you don't expect something - to influence you...

0:18:04 > 0:18:07- ..you get a flash of inspiration.

0:18:07 > 0:18:11- Yes, when I'm watching films - or when I see plates and cups.

0:18:11 > 0:18:14- All sorts of things - leave an impression on me...

0:18:15 > 0:18:17- ..and influence my work.

0:18:17 > 0:18:19- Things like patterns and colours?

0:18:20 > 0:18:24- Yes. I'm always on the lookout - for something different.

0:18:25 > 0:18:31- Take a woman who always wears - basic, white bras and knickers...

0:18:31 > 0:18:36- ..which are totally comfortable - and not sexy in any way.

0:18:36 > 0:18:39- If you put her - in a set of your underwear...

0:18:39 > 0:18:43- ..do you think - she'd feel like a different person?

0:18:43 > 0:18:47- Yes. Every set is created - for a different customer.

0:18:47 > 0:18:49- Every set fits a different mood.

0:18:50 > 0:18:55- It's the same feeling as when you - have a new dress or a new haircut.

0:18:56 > 0:18:59- It boosts your confidence - and your self-esteem.

0:18:59 > 0:19:04- If you wear something that - fits well, it gives you confidence.

0:19:05 > 0:19:09- This is part of Victoria's Secret's - 'Very Sexy' collection.

0:19:10 > 0:19:14- There's oil in there, - to give you a bit of a plunge.

0:19:15 > 0:19:17- Yes, it feels like a liquid.

0:19:17 > 0:19:19- It's similar to this stuff.

0:19:19 > 0:19:23- Have you seen these? - They're hidden inside the cups.

0:19:23 > 0:19:26- People call them chicken fillets.

0:19:26 > 0:19:28- People call them chicken fillets.- - You can buy them separately.

0:19:28 > 0:19:33- You don't want them popping out of - your bra, when you're having dinner!

0:19:33 > 0:19:35- It doesn't feel fake.

0:19:38 > 0:19:40- It feels lovely and soft.

0:19:41 > 0:19:45- It's supposed to feel - just like a real breast, isn't it?

0:19:45 > 0:19:47- Yes, that's the idea.

0:19:47 > 0:19:49- It's quite soft.

0:20:03 > 0:20:06- I now design - for several British companies.

0:20:06 > 0:20:09- They're all high street stores.

0:20:11 > 0:20:15- I'm currently doing a lot of work - for Marks and Spencer.

0:20:15 > 0:20:19- I've also designed for Ann Summers - and Knickerbox.

0:20:20 > 0:20:24- As a company, we work for Debenhams - and we designed for La Senza.

0:20:25 > 0:20:27- A lot of women wear my designs.

0:20:45 > 0:20:47- Who are your customers, Sian?

0:20:48 > 0:20:49- Women, of course!

0:20:50 > 0:20:52- I design for women...

0:20:53 > 0:20:58- ..but men buy my designs for - their wives and their girlfriends.

0:21:02 > 0:21:06- Women tend to buy functional - underwear, for everyday wear...

0:21:06 > 0:21:11- ..and men tend to buy something - really sexy for their partners.

0:21:13 > 0:21:16- Is comfort one of your priorities?

0:21:16 > 0:21:20- Yes, especially for a company - like Marks and Spencer.

0:21:20 > 0:21:23- Most of the things - we supply to them...

0:21:24 > 0:21:28- ..must be sturdy enough - to withstand ten 40 degree washes.

0:21:29 > 0:21:32- That's not necessarily my priority.

0:21:32 > 0:21:35- I focus on - how my designs actually look.

0:21:38 > 0:21:42- Some of my designs are only - meant to be worn for five minutes!

0:21:44 > 0:21:45- I shouldn't say that!

0:21:48 > 0:21:53- This is meant to look quite innocent - but it's anything but innocent!

0:21:55 > 0:21:56- You can open the flap.

0:21:57 > 0:22:01- You can see the fun element - in this design, with the feathers.

0:22:01 > 0:22:03- It's called 'Fallen Angel'.

0:22:04 > 0:22:07- This is called the Dolly Bird.

0:22:07 > 0:22:10- We had a theme - called 'Hello, Dolly'.

0:22:10 > 0:22:13- It's very kitsch - and we use sherbet colours.

0:22:14 > 0:22:17- I like the colour combination.

0:22:18 > 0:22:21- A large company - is interested in buying this...

0:22:21 > 0:22:24- ..so I hope they decide to go ahead.

0:22:25 > 0:22:27- This isn't in the shops?

0:22:27 > 0:22:28- This isn't in the shops?- - No, not yet.

0:22:29 > 0:22:31- We're having a sneak preview!

0:22:32 > 0:22:35- This shows off - the fun element of my designs.

0:22:35 > 0:22:37- It's called 'Chastity'.

0:22:37 > 0:22:42- I found this chain embroidery and - I wanted to make it pink and fun.

0:22:42 > 0:22:45- I added a diamante key - and a tiny padlock.

0:22:47 > 0:22:52- There are matching handcuffs, - which come with a key and a lock.

0:23:09 > 0:23:13- I try to include a fun element - in the designs.

0:23:14 > 0:23:19- It's all a bit tongue in cheek and - I like to push back the boundaries.

0:23:20 > 0:23:26- Some items are kitsch and others - evoke people's sexuality.

0:23:26 > 0:23:30- They're designed for specific - markets and different people.

0:23:31 > 0:23:37- The biggest element I give them - is that fun element.

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