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0:00:00 > 0:00:05- In this programme, Imogen talks - about Miss Wales and Big Brother.

0:00:05 > 0:00:09- Treflyn Jones, - a man who has several catsuits...

0:00:09 > 0:00:11- ..and the figure to wear them.

0:00:12 > 0:00:16- Eleri Jones, an artist - who draws inspiration from clothes.

0:00:17 > 0:00:18- Welcome to Cwpwrdd Dillad.

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0:00:51 > 0:00:53- Imogen, I feel as though I know you!

0:00:54 > 0:00:59- I want to ask you about the night - you entered the Big Brother house.

0:00:59 > 0:01:02- Before you went into the house...

0:01:02 > 0:01:07- ..how did you approach the task of - buying all the clothes you needed?

0:01:08 > 0:01:11- I wanted to wear something classy - to go in...

0:01:11 > 0:01:14- ..and something sexy to come out.

0:01:14 > 0:01:18- I didn't know what I should buy - because it was early summer.

0:01:18 > 0:01:22- I needed a few bikinis - but there weren't any in the shops.

0:01:22 > 0:01:26- I thought, - "Oh! What am I going to buy?"

0:01:26 > 0:01:31- Did you take a friend, a stylist - or an advisor with you?

0:01:31 > 0:01:35- My friend spent the weekend - shopping with me.

0:01:37 > 0:01:41- I couldn't tell her - why I needed all those clothes.

0:01:41 > 0:01:43- I told her I was going on holiday...

0:01:44 > 0:01:48- ..and I asked her to come along - and help me choose clothes.

0:01:49 > 0:01:55- What made you decide to look classy - on the night you entered the house?

0:01:56 > 0:01:58- I thought about it...

0:01:58 > 0:02:03- ..and I realized everyone - would watch the opening night.

0:02:03 > 0:02:07- I wanted to wear something classy.

0:02:07 > 0:02:11- When I chose that long skirt, - I knew it was perfect.

0:02:12 > 0:02:15- That was the look I wanted.

0:02:15 > 0:02:19- It was summery with that yellow top.

0:02:19 > 0:02:25- I wanted to wear a sort - of Caribbean-Spanish style.

0:02:31 > 0:02:36- I wanted to go in as a classy girl - and come out as a sexy woman.

0:02:36 > 0:02:38- That's exactly what I did.

0:02:39 > 0:02:42- I remember you wearing - these dungarees in the house.

0:02:42 > 0:02:44- Are they comfortable?

0:02:44 > 0:02:46- Are they comfortable?- - Yes. My mother doesn't like these!

0:02:46 > 0:02:51- They're comfortable - and that's why I bought them.

0:02:51 > 0:02:55- I was convinced - this was Nikki's top.

0:02:56 > 0:02:57- She wore it all the time.

0:02:58 > 0:03:02- Yes, Nikki wore it every day, - with hot pants, but it's my top.

0:03:02 > 0:03:04- She loved it!

0:03:07 > 0:03:12- You wore this top and a pair - of shorts on your eviction night.

0:03:12 > 0:03:17- Yes. I thought this was a sexy top - which I could wear to come out.

0:03:18 > 0:03:21- Did you wear a small, black top - under it?

0:03:21 > 0:03:23- No, I wore a bra under it.

0:03:24 > 0:03:26- It hid everything.

0:03:28 > 0:03:29- It comes down, like that.

0:03:53 > 0:03:57- When you were in the house, - you wore a lot of casual clothes.

0:03:57 > 0:04:01- Do you enjoy wearing hoodies - and baseball caps?

0:04:03 > 0:04:07- Yes, when I'm at home, - I wear caps and baggy clothes.

0:04:08 > 0:04:12- In the House, I had a few jumpers - and baggy pyjama bottoms.

0:04:12 > 0:04:16- I wanted to be comfy - and I wanted to be able to relax.

0:04:29 > 0:04:32- You wore this - when you won Miss Wales.

0:04:32 > 0:04:35- Why did you choose this? - What did you like about it?

0:04:35 > 0:04:38- I liked the baby pink colour - and the sparkles.

0:04:39 > 0:04:43- It looked great on the stage too.

0:04:43 > 0:04:45- It has a boob tube effect.

0:04:45 > 0:04:50- I wanted something which was tight - and fell into a flare at the bottom.

0:04:51 > 0:04:55- That's what I wanted - and I'm glad I chose this dress.

0:05:07 > 0:05:12- You won Miss Wales in this dress, - then you entered Miss World.

0:05:12 > 0:05:14- You wore this for Miss World.

0:05:14 > 0:05:16- You wore this for Miss World.- - Yes, that's right.

0:05:17 > 0:05:18- Where was the competition held?

0:05:18 > 0:05:20- Where was the competition held?- - In China.

0:05:20 > 0:05:24- I wore this for my 21st birthday - celebrations in China.

0:05:27 > 0:05:31- Nowadays, - I wear it to go to parties.

0:05:31 > 0:05:34- You smile - when you look at this dress.

0:05:35 > 0:05:38- I always have good luck - when I wear this dress.

0:05:38 > 0:05:41- You wore this - and you made it to the finale.

0:05:45 > 0:05:47- Did you wear this for the finale?

0:05:47 > 0:05:48- Did you wear this for the finale?- - Yes.

0:05:48 > 0:05:52- All the girls had to wear - this dress for the finale.

0:05:54 > 0:05:58- It wasn't a lucky dress, - so back it goes in the wardrobe.

0:06:07 > 0:06:10- Tell me about your eviction night.

0:06:10 > 0:06:12- Tell me about your eviction night.- - I knew I was leaving that night.

0:06:14 > 0:06:17- I knew I wanted to look sexy.

0:06:17 > 0:06:20- I spent the day getting ready - for my eviction.

0:06:20 > 0:06:26- I pulled my hair back from my face - and applied make-up.

0:06:26 > 0:06:31- I relaxed all day - and I put on lots of moisturiser.

0:06:31 > 0:06:33- I was ready to go.

0:06:33 > 0:06:37- I thought, "I want to leave - the house looking my best."

0:06:37 > 0:06:38- That's exactly what I did.

0:06:45 > 0:06:49- I was the only man in Wales who - dressed flashy clothes like that!

0:06:49 > 0:06:52- I lived the life of a superstar.

0:06:55 > 0:06:59- I heard that you were called - Tight-Trousers Treflyn at that time.

0:06:59 > 0:07:02- Flares were all the rage, back then.

0:07:03 > 0:07:06- Tight at the top - and very baggy at the bottom.

0:07:08 > 0:07:13- I wore jeans in the early days, - tight, tight jeans.

0:07:14 > 0:07:16- I would play at gigs...

0:07:16 > 0:07:20- ..and people called me - Tight-Trousered Treflyn.

0:07:20 > 0:07:23- I was the only one - who wore trousers that tight.

0:07:23 > 0:07:27- Did you make a conscious decision - to adopt that image?

0:07:28 > 0:07:32- At the time, I didn't realize - women looked at men in the way.

0:07:34 > 0:07:39- I knew men looked at women but - I didn't know it worked both ways!

0:07:39 > 0:07:42- When I was performing, on stage...

0:07:42 > 0:07:48- ..I didn't know - 50% of the women's brains...

0:07:48 > 0:07:51- ..were focused on the man himself...

0:07:51 > 0:07:55- ..and the other 50% - was listening to the music.

0:07:55 > 0:08:00- I had that sort of appeal, I wasn't - a folk singer or pop singer.

0:08:02 > 0:08:07- Image was important to me, - as was the melody and my guitar.

0:08:32 > 0:08:36- I once had an opportunity - to go to Manchester.

0:08:36 > 0:08:38- I could have hit the big time!

0:08:38 > 0:08:42- I was just an ordinary bloke - from rural Wales.

0:08:42 > 0:08:45- I didn't want to go to the city.

0:08:45 > 0:08:47- I stopped performing for a while.

0:08:48 > 0:08:51- When Welsh music became popular...

0:08:51 > 0:08:55- I became a part of that scene - and performed at many concerts.

0:08:56 > 0:08:58- We're talking about the 1970s here.

0:08:58 > 0:09:01- Were you a fan - of the crazy fashions?

0:09:02 > 0:09:03- Yes, I loved the style!

0:09:03 > 0:09:07- I went to Bangor to buy clothes.

0:09:07 > 0:09:12- I'd go to a shop called Creams - and I'd buy some amazing outfits.

0:09:12 > 0:09:16- Your image changed - at a certain point. Why?

0:09:16 > 0:09:20- I had a cabaret act - which I performed in Caersws.

0:09:21 > 0:09:26- There were three people there, - sitting at a round table...

0:09:26 > 0:09:28- ..sipping champagne.

0:09:28 > 0:09:33- A man with curly hair said, - "Gordon Mills, Tom Jones's manager."

0:09:33 > 0:09:37- "You sang one of - Gordon's songs tonight," he said.

0:09:37 > 0:09:41- The song in question - was 'Ten Guitars'.

0:09:42 > 0:09:45- Engelbert Humperdinck - sang that song.

0:09:46 > 0:09:52- He talked to me after he'd seen - my performance and heard me sing.

0:09:53 > 0:09:54- He told me I needed an image.

0:09:55 > 0:09:56- He thought I was too plain.

0:09:57 > 0:09:58- Too ordinary.

0:10:00 > 0:10:06- He's the one who suggested - I should start to wear catsuits.

0:10:30 > 0:10:34- Where did a bloke from Porthmadog - go to find a catsuit?

0:10:34 > 0:10:37- I caught a train - from Bangor to Euston.

0:10:38 > 0:10:40- It was called an Away Day ticket.

0:10:40 > 0:10:45- I'd reach London - and get a taxi to Soho.

0:10:47 > 0:10:50- I found the Colin Wilde shop.

0:10:51 > 0:10:56- He had long hair - just like Buffalo Bill!

0:10:56 > 0:10:58- He had a long beard.

0:11:00 > 0:11:04- I shook hands with him and he said, - "Where are you from?"

0:11:05 > 0:11:07- "Porthmadog," I replied.

0:11:07 > 0:11:10- He had trouble - understanding my accent.

0:11:10 > 0:11:14- There were photos of Cliff Richard, - Shirley Bassey...

0:11:14 > 0:11:17- ..and lots of famous people - on the walls.

0:11:17 > 0:11:21- I'd play in front of - a full house in Aberffraw.

0:11:21 > 0:11:23- Word had spread like wildfire.

0:11:23 > 0:11:27- "Hey! A man from Porthmadog - wears silly clothes!

0:11:27 > 0:11:30- "He wears flashy catsuits!"

0:11:30 > 0:11:33- There were lots of people - wherever I played.

0:11:59 > 0:12:02- This was your first suit, was it?

0:12:02 > 0:12:03- This was your first suit, was it?- - Yes, that's right.

0:12:03 > 0:12:07- These trousers - had a wide flare at the bottom...

0:12:07 > 0:12:12- ..but I never thought flares - would come back into fashion.

0:12:12 > 0:12:16- I had them tapered down - and I regret doing it.

0:12:16 > 0:12:20- I altered them so that - I could wear them in the 1980s.

0:12:23 > 0:12:25- Tell me about this gold top.

0:12:27 > 0:12:28- It's fantastic.

0:12:28 > 0:12:32- There are a pair - of matching trousers here too.

0:12:32 > 0:12:36- I went to London to take a look at - this one before actually buying it.

0:12:37 > 0:12:41- He described the brocade over - the phone but I couldn't picture it.

0:12:42 > 0:12:45- The collar is much bigger - on this white one.

0:12:45 > 0:12:47- This was my Elvis jacket.

0:12:48 > 0:12:51- When Elvis died in 1977...

0:12:51 > 0:12:55- ..I bought this - as a tribute to Elvis.

0:12:55 > 0:12:59- These are really wide trousers - with gold stitching.

0:13:02 > 0:13:04- My name's written on the back.

0:13:04 > 0:13:06- 'T Jones' - Treflyn Jones.

0:13:07 > 0:13:13- # I must now live without love

0:13:15 > 0:13:21- # My love has gone away

0:13:22 > 0:13:29- # Without you, my dear, without you

0:13:30 > 0:13:35- # I must now live without love... #

0:13:38 > 0:13:39- This is my favourite.

0:13:44 > 0:13:47- You stand out from the crowd - when you wear something like this.

0:13:47 > 0:13:49- Yes, that was the whole point.

0:13:49 > 0:13:53- I wanted one - really bright, flashy suit.

0:13:53 > 0:13:55- I thought pink would be nice.

0:13:56 > 0:14:01- # I must now live without love #

0:14:02 > 0:14:05- Do you have a favourite outfit?

0:14:06 > 0:14:07- These two white suits.

0:14:08 > 0:14:10- I'm fond of white clothes.

0:14:10 > 0:14:13- I still wear a lot of white.

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0:14:49 > 0:14:53- When you look at various items - of clothing and garments...

0:14:54 > 0:15:02- ..it triggers thoughts about the - role of women, traditional dress...

0:15:02 > 0:15:06- ..and a woman's role - within the household.

0:15:07 > 0:15:10- Clothes raise - all sorts of questions.

0:15:23 > 0:15:26- Let's start - with Eleri Jones, the artist.

0:15:27 > 0:15:29- Let's talk about your love of art.

0:15:29 > 0:15:32- Does it blend - with your love of clothes?

0:15:33 > 0:15:37- Yes, the two aspects combine - in many different ways.

0:15:37 > 0:15:43- I did a still life project...

0:15:43 > 0:15:48- ..focusing on corners - in my mother and father's home...

0:15:49 > 0:15:52- ..and in my - grandfather and grandmother's home.

0:15:52 > 0:15:56- I studied the way we set out - the items we have in our houses.

0:15:56 > 0:15:59- I then looked at the way - I set out the items in my flat.

0:16:00 > 0:16:05- From my point of view, I mainly - focused on clothes and accessories.

0:16:06 > 0:16:10- You created a piece of work - which involved shoes.

0:16:12 > 0:16:18- Yes, I was employed as the - resident artist of Conwy museums...

0:16:18 > 0:16:22- ..and I spent a period working at - Sir Henry Jones Museum, Llangernyw.

0:16:25 > 0:16:27- Sir Henry Jones's father - was a cobbler.

0:16:28 > 0:16:32- I asked the people of Llangernyw - and local schoolchildren...

0:16:32 > 0:16:37- ..to bring me - a collection of shoes.

0:16:37 > 0:16:41- I must have been given - around 60 pairs of shoes.

0:16:41 > 0:16:44- I then set about the task - of sketching them.

0:16:45 > 0:16:50- Apart from bags and shoes, - are there other themes in your work?

0:16:50 > 0:16:55- I do figurative work, studying - people in different locations.

0:16:55 > 0:16:56- I enjoy painting people...

0:16:57 > 0:17:02- ..when they're working, - chatting or relaxing.

0:17:03 > 0:17:06- What are your favourite materials?

0:17:06 > 0:17:08- I like all sorts of things.

0:17:08 > 0:17:12- I spent some time - in Sri Lanka and India.

0:17:12 > 0:17:15- When I was in Sri Lanka...

0:17:15 > 0:17:19- ..I spent time - with a seamstress called Siriha.

0:17:19 > 0:17:22- She worked a lot with old saris.

0:17:22 > 0:17:25- I love all sorts of silks.

0:17:25 > 0:17:30- It gave me an insight - into everyday life in Sri Lanka.

0:17:30 > 0:17:34- I saw at first hand how people - went about making a living there.

0:17:35 > 0:17:37- She actually sewed and dried herbs.

0:17:37 > 0:17:39- She was a bit of an entrepreneur.

0:17:41 > 0:17:43- Nowadays, we don't think of...

0:17:44 > 0:17:48- ..the traditional way - of working with a sewing machine.

0:18:09 > 0:18:14- Tell me about the picture - you painted of you and your sister.

0:18:15 > 0:18:17- Mam bought the red gowns.

0:18:19 > 0:18:23- My sister and I were - going to stay with our grandparents.

0:18:23 > 0:18:25- Usually, - we'd wear different colours...

0:18:26 > 0:18:29- ..but we both had red nightdresses - on that occasion.

0:18:30 > 0:18:32- I felt like - Little Red Riding Hood in it!

0:18:38 > 0:18:42- Eleri, it's like a gallery - of bags and dresses.

0:18:42 > 0:18:44- It looks great.

0:18:44 > 0:18:46- I enjoy hanging things on display.

0:18:50 > 0:18:52- I've done a few paintings - of my handbags.

0:18:53 > 0:18:56- That puppy bag looks old.

0:18:56 > 0:18:58- That puppy bag looks old.- - Yes, that was my first purse.

0:18:59 > 0:19:00- It's quite old.

0:19:01 > 0:19:03- Let's look at these dresses - hanging here.

0:19:04 > 0:19:07- They look as if many of them - came from India.

0:19:07 > 0:19:09- What about the brown one on the end?

0:19:12 > 0:19:15- I bought this in Delhi, India.

0:19:16 > 0:19:19- I regret not buying 15 of them!

0:19:20 > 0:19:24- It only cost something like 75 pence - and I've worn it a lot.

0:19:24 > 0:19:27- It was cool to wear in India.

0:19:28 > 0:19:30- Unfortunately, there are rips in it.

0:19:30 > 0:19:32- It's made of delicate silk.

0:19:36 > 0:19:38- I loved wearing this dress.

0:19:41 > 0:19:42- I got this in Sri Lanka.

0:19:42 > 0:19:45- This is the first dress - Siriha made for me.

0:19:47 > 0:19:50- She took my measurements - to make sure it fitted.

0:19:50 > 0:19:52- It fits me really nicely.

0:19:53 > 0:19:55- It's made of an old sari.

0:19:55 > 0:19:58- She used an old-fashioned - sewing machine...

0:19:58 > 0:20:01- ..to create this unusual stitch.

0:20:30 > 0:20:35- This dress looks as if it comes - from an exotic, faraway land.

0:20:36 > 0:20:40- Again, this came from Sri Lanka.

0:20:40 > 0:20:42- I met an 18-year-old girl...

0:20:43 > 0:20:45- ..who had set up her own design - and dressmaking business.

0:20:48 > 0:20:50- I was lucky because I could choose.

0:20:50 > 0:20:54- Two different saris were used - to create this dress.

0:20:55 > 0:20:59- I was allowed to choose which two - fabrics I wanted to put together.

0:20:59 > 0:21:04- I love the way these colours clash - - the purple and the red.

0:21:08 > 0:21:12- It also has a bright lining.

0:21:30 > 0:21:32- This is a fantastic bag, Eleri.

0:21:32 > 0:21:34- This is a fantastic bag, Eleri.- - It's one of my most eccentric bags.

0:21:35 > 0:21:36- I rarely use it.

0:21:37 > 0:21:42- I can't put more than a tiny purse - and a lip-gloss in it...

0:21:42 > 0:21:47- ..because every time I overload it, - it gets bigger because it stretches.

0:21:49 > 0:21:52- This is a pair - of painting trousers.

0:21:52 > 0:21:56- I do a lot of workshops - and I end up covered in paint.

0:21:56 > 0:22:00- Once I get a splodge of paint - on a pair of trousers...

0:22:00 > 0:22:03- ..they become painting trousers.

0:22:03 > 0:22:05- What do you keep in these?

0:22:05 > 0:22:07- What do you keep in these?- - My best clothes, really.

0:22:07 > 0:22:11- I put them in the suitcases - to keep them nice and clean.

0:22:11 > 0:22:13- May I see them?

0:22:13 > 0:22:14- May I see them?- - Yes, of course.

0:22:16 > 0:22:18- It must be full. It's heavy!

0:22:20 > 0:22:22- Oh, what lovely colours!

0:22:22 > 0:22:23- That's lovely.

0:22:25 > 0:22:29- I bought that at a temple - in Angkor Wat, Cambodia.

0:22:30 > 0:22:32- There was a woman - selling them outside.

0:22:33 > 0:22:36- When I saw this, - I knew I had to buy it.

0:23:02 > 0:23:04- What else do you have here?

0:23:04 > 0:23:07- This is a silk skirt from India.

0:23:08 > 0:23:09- It's reversible.

0:23:11 > 0:23:14- It's comfortable to wear - and feels silky smooth.

0:23:14 > 0:23:16- I wear it a lot in the summer.

0:23:18 > 0:23:20- I like the idea...

0:23:21 > 0:23:24- ..of keeping garments for years - and wearing them time after time.

0:23:25 > 0:23:29- I like it when there's - a story behind an item of clothing.

0:23:29 > 0:23:34- I'm keen on the idea of recycling - by buying things from charity shops.

0:23:34 > 0:23:37- I like clothes - which may have a fascinating past.

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