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0:00:00 > 0:00:04- On this show, we meet opera singer - Mary Lloyd Davies from Llanuwchllyn.

0:00:05 > 0:00:09- Sioned Rowlands owns clothes - from four generations.

0:00:10 > 0:00:14- And Blue Peter's well-dressed - presenter, Gethin Jones.

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0:00:50 > 0:00:54- I never thought - I'd be a television presenter.

0:00:54 > 0:00:59- The television was a magical box in - the corner to me when I was young.

0:01:10 > 0:01:14- Have you kept clothes which remind - you of a time and a place?

0:01:15 > 0:01:17- Yes, I'm a terrible hoarder.

0:01:17 > 0:01:20- Sometimes, it's impossible - to get rid of clothes.

0:01:21 > 0:01:25- As you're about to see, - my wardrobe is full of rubbish...

0:01:27 > 0:01:30- ..but it's difficult - to throw them away.

0:01:31 > 0:01:36- I've only just moved in to the house - and I don't have an actual wardrobe.

0:01:37 > 0:01:41- I have a dumping room, - where I keep all my work clothes.

0:01:41 > 0:01:44- I have a rail in my bedroom - for weekend clothes.

0:01:44 > 0:01:47- Weekends when I'm off work, that is.

0:01:54 > 0:01:56- This is the dumping room.

0:01:57 > 0:01:59- It's really tidy today.

0:01:59 > 0:02:02- Yes. That's because - I knew you were coming.

0:02:02 > 0:02:05- I've only just moved in.

0:02:05 > 0:02:07- This is my work gear.

0:02:08 > 0:02:10- Do you receive free clothes?

0:02:10 > 0:02:12- Do you receive free clothes?- - Yes, from time to time.

0:02:12 > 0:02:13- This is my training gear.

0:02:14 > 0:02:17- I'm filmed doing - a lot of physical stuff.

0:02:18 > 0:02:19- I get a lot of exercise.

0:02:20 > 0:02:22- You're the Blue Peter action man.

0:02:22 > 0:02:25- Yes, I got that title - from somewhere.

0:02:25 > 0:02:27- I don't know why.

0:02:27 > 0:02:31- I'm not an adrenaline junkie - but I do enjoy a physical challenge.

0:02:32 > 0:02:34- I want to know - whether or not I can do it.

0:02:35 > 0:02:37- We do lots of silly things too!

0:02:40 > 0:02:42- Look at these cowboy shirts!

0:02:42 > 0:02:44- We got them when we filmed in Texas.

0:02:45 > 0:02:46- Look at the back.

0:02:46 > 0:02:48- Look at the back.- - They're fantastic!

0:02:48 > 0:02:50- The logo's on everything!

0:02:50 > 0:02:53- We could have a his and hers - - cowboy, cowgirl!

0:02:53 > 0:02:55- That would be cool!

0:02:55 > 0:02:57- We should both model these.

0:02:58 > 0:02:59- This is the hat.

0:03:00 > 0:03:01- There's the hat.

0:03:01 > 0:03:04- There's the hat.- - You were meant to wear it, not me!

0:03:04 > 0:03:07- I've got a pair of cowboy boots too.

0:03:07 > 0:03:09- I've got a pair of cowboy boots too.- - They're great!

0:03:09 > 0:03:12- Why did they give you - a cowboy outfit?

0:03:12 > 0:03:14- What did you do, - dressed as a cowboy?

0:03:15 > 0:03:16- We filmed in Texas.

0:03:16 > 0:03:20- We film a Blue Peter expedition - every summer...

0:03:20 > 0:03:24- ..and that was - the southern states of America tour.

0:03:24 > 0:03:26- Wear the hat! It looks good on you.

0:03:26 > 0:03:28- Wear the hat! Wear the hat!

0:03:28 > 0:03:29- Wear the hat! Wear the hat!- - No. I'm shy!

0:03:33 > 0:03:35- We filmed at NASA over the summer.

0:03:39 > 0:03:40- We were at the Space Camp.

0:03:40 > 0:03:42- We were at the Space Camp.- - That's incredible.

0:03:42 > 0:03:46- I landed a space shuttle - from 50,000 feet.

0:03:46 > 0:03:48- I have a space suit too.

0:03:48 > 0:03:52- Is that true? - You sat at the controls?

0:03:52 > 0:03:55- I landed a space shuttle, - using the simulator.

0:03:56 > 0:03:59- I have a pilot's licence, - so they let me have a go.

0:03:59 > 0:04:02- I landed it safely. - The crew would have survived.

0:04:02 > 0:04:05- The day I wore this - was an amazing day.

0:04:06 > 0:04:10- We were at Johnston Space Center. - My name's there. Look!

0:04:10 > 0:04:13- You can't get rid of it. - It's so special.

0:04:46 > 0:04:50- Was image important to you - when you were young?

0:04:51 > 0:04:54- I'd say no, - although my friends may disagree.

0:04:54 > 0:05:00- Mam cut my hair and I had big, - jam jar spectacles...

0:05:02 > 0:05:03- ..and braces on my teeth.

0:05:04 > 0:05:05- I also played the violin.

0:05:06 > 0:05:09- I wasn't number one on the hit list - of the pretty girls!

0:05:10 > 0:05:14- During one summer, - I got some contact lenses...

0:05:14 > 0:05:17- ..I had my braces off - and I got a haircut.

0:05:17 > 0:05:20- I also started to do weights - that summer.

0:05:20 > 0:05:24- My dad had bought some weights - and he put them in the garage.

0:05:24 > 0:05:27- I went back - for the new school year...

0:05:28 > 0:05:32- ..and one of my teachers said, - "Hello! Can I help you?"

0:05:32 > 0:05:34- It was weird but I looked different.

0:05:34 > 0:05:39- I'd bulked up - and I had changed a bit, I'm sure.

0:05:56 > 0:05:58- Let's start with shirts.

0:05:58 > 0:06:01- This is my favourite shirt.

0:06:01 > 0:06:03- Every man has a favourite shirt.

0:06:04 > 0:06:06- If they deny it, they're liars!

0:06:07 > 0:06:10- I always take it with me, - when I go away.

0:06:10 > 0:06:14- When I go on a work trip or - I go on holiday with my friends...

0:06:15 > 0:06:18- ..I take this, - in case I need a smart shirt.

0:06:18 > 0:06:19- A date?

0:06:19 > 0:06:21- You don't like it!

0:06:21 > 0:06:22- You don't like it!- - I do!

0:06:22 > 0:06:25- I can see it in your eyes. - You hate it!

0:06:25 > 0:06:28- I like it - and I want to know why you like it.

0:06:28 > 0:06:30- I don't like it any more!

0:06:30 > 0:06:32- Oh, well! Let's move on.

0:06:33 > 0:06:34- I like this.

0:06:34 > 0:06:38- It's really nice. - I've never heard of Penguin.

0:06:39 > 0:06:41- Yes. - What do you think of polo shirts?

0:06:42 > 0:06:43- They're nice.

0:06:43 > 0:06:47- If you took a pretty young lady out - on a date...

0:06:48 > 0:06:49- ..what would you wear?

0:06:49 > 0:06:53- I definitely wouldn't wear that! - It's gone.

0:06:53 > 0:06:55- Let me see your suits.

0:06:55 > 0:06:58- Let me see your suits.- - I wore this at my sister's wedding.

0:06:58 > 0:07:01- I thought - it was high time I bought a suit.

0:07:02 > 0:07:04- This is a made-to-measure suit.

0:07:08 > 0:07:09- Smart?

0:07:09 > 0:07:10- Smart?- - Yes.

0:07:11 > 0:07:12- My name's on it.

0:07:12 > 0:07:14- It fits you perfectly.

0:07:14 > 0:07:16- It fits you perfectly.- - Yes.

0:07:16 > 0:07:18- I could wear this jacket with jeans.

0:07:18 > 0:07:20- I could wear this jacket with jeans.- - Yes, it would look smart.

0:07:20 > 0:07:23- Maybe - you should get rid of that stain!

0:07:23 > 0:07:25- Thanks, Mam!

0:07:25 > 0:07:29- I know! I'll wear my favourite - shirt under this jacket.

0:07:48 > 0:07:51- D'you feel under pressure - to always look the part?

0:07:51 > 0:07:54- It's important to look good - on camera...

0:07:55 > 0:07:57- ..especially for a kids' show.

0:07:57 > 0:08:01- When I'm going out, - I always try to look smart.

0:08:01 > 0:08:05- What you wear is a sign of respect - for whoever you're meeting.

0:08:06 > 0:08:07- Dad always said that.

0:08:08 > 0:08:12- It's a matter of self-respect - and what's important to me.

0:08:13 > 0:08:18- That's the way I am here - and that's the way I am on camera.

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0:08:47 > 0:08:56- # Casta diva... #

0:08:57 > 0:09:00- I've been singing since I was young.

0:09:00 > 0:09:04- I was a member of the village choir - when I was three years old.

0:09:04 > 0:09:07- My mother conducted that choir.

0:09:07 > 0:09:10- Singing has always been - a part of my life.

0:09:12 > 0:09:18- I've been fortunate enough - to sing with people like Carreras...

0:09:19 > 0:09:22- ..Jon Vickers, Shirley Verrett - and people like that.

0:09:23 > 0:09:26- It was wonderful to be a part of it.

0:09:33 > 0:09:40- I've always been keen on dressing up - - wearing shoes and hats.

0:09:40 > 0:09:45- I've enjoyed carrying a handbag, - ever since I was little.

0:09:46 > 0:09:50- We lived in a shop which sold - lots of different clothes.

0:09:50 > 0:09:52- We enjoyed dressing up.

0:09:53 > 0:09:56- It was easy to lose yourself - in a fantasy world.

0:10:01 > 0:10:06- Mary, I take it these are - your glittery performance clothes.

0:10:06 > 0:10:10- Yes, everything you see here, - other than this, are stage clothes.

0:10:10 > 0:10:14- Let's start with your oldest dress.

0:10:14 > 0:10:19- This blue one is the oldest. - It's the first dress I bought.

0:10:20 > 0:10:23- Blue was my favourite colour - when I was young.

0:10:24 > 0:10:25- It matches your eyes.

0:10:25 > 0:10:30- Yes and I wore a lot of it but - I've managed to get away from it...

0:10:30 > 0:10:32- ..during the past few years.

0:10:32 > 0:10:34- It's lovely.

0:10:35 > 0:10:38- You must tell me - about this bright pink dress.

0:10:40 > 0:10:42- It's wonderful.

0:10:42 > 0:10:45- It's made of pure silk.

0:10:45 > 0:10:47- My sister made this for me.

0:10:48 > 0:10:50- She was very good with her hands.

0:10:50 > 0:10:54- I'd been invited to sing - at the Albert Hall.

0:10:55 > 0:10:59- I found the fabric - in John Lewis on Oxford Street.

0:10:59 > 0:11:04- I bought a pattern - and my sister made the dress for me.

0:11:04 > 0:11:08- This dress cost 24.

0:11:09 > 0:11:15- I think the decorative strips cost - around half the price of the dress.

0:11:15 > 0:11:17- This is my favourite dress.

0:11:19 > 0:11:23- I bought this in Houston, - from Saks Fifth Avenue.

0:11:27 > 0:11:29- I love the colours.

0:11:30 > 0:11:33- I keep this for important occasions.

0:11:35 > 0:11:38- I don't want - anything to happen to it.

0:11:39 > 0:11:41- # AVE MARIA # - from Otello by Verdi

0:11:43 > 0:12:00- # Prega per chi adorando - a te si prostra

0:12:01 > 0:12:10- # Prega nel peccator... #

0:12:12 > 0:12:18- I've always - been fond of glittery things.

0:12:19 > 0:12:21- Things which stand out.

0:12:21 > 0:12:26- Glitter and glitz draw an audience's - attention to the performer.

0:12:26 > 0:12:31- I've been fortunate enough to wear - those sorts of clothes in operas.

0:12:32 > 0:12:33- Nice clothes.

0:12:33 > 0:12:35- They stand out...

0:12:35 > 0:12:39- ..and I enjoy wearing things - which attract attention.

0:12:50 > 0:12:52- This is heavy.

0:12:52 > 0:12:55- This is heavy.- - Yes, sequinned dresses are heavy.

0:12:55 > 0:12:57- I bought this in America.

0:12:57 > 0:13:02- It's always handy - to have a black dress.

0:13:02 > 0:13:07- A black dress is apt for a requiem - or for singing in a church.

0:13:07 > 0:13:11- I wear black - for something more sombre.

0:13:12 > 0:13:15- I bought this in Harrods in London.

0:13:16 > 0:13:22- I wore it at the - National Eisteddfod in Bala in 1997.

0:13:23 > 0:13:24- I sang in the concert.

0:13:25 > 0:13:28- There's something quite Egyptian - about it.

0:13:28 > 0:13:32- It's quite slimming which is nice.

0:13:32 > 0:13:37- It's a loose-fitting dress - but it tapers towards the bottom.

0:13:37 > 0:13:42- It must be important to be - comfortable when you're on stage.

0:13:42 > 0:13:44- Yes, of course.

0:13:46 > 0:13:52- I use muscles and don't want - everyone to see what I'm doing.

0:13:53 > 0:13:56- I like to be totally comfortable - when I'm singing on stage.

0:13:57 > 0:14:02- Before you perform, do you enjoy the - process of putting on your dress...

0:14:02 > 0:14:05- ..and of applying make-up - and doing your hair?

0:14:06 > 0:14:07- Yes, I enjoy the process.

0:14:08 > 0:14:11- At a certain point - during those preparations...

0:14:12 > 0:14:16- ..my focus shifts - and I start to think...

0:14:16 > 0:14:20- ..of the performance - I'm about to give.

0:14:20 > 0:14:24- My attitude changes - and that's a natural thing.

0:14:24 > 0:14:30- I see myself in the mirror and - I make sure every hair's in place.

0:14:30 > 0:14:32- It's important.

0:14:32 > 0:14:36- From that point onwards, my mind - is on stepping out on that stage.

0:14:36 > 0:14:39- It's a part of the whole process.

0:14:41 > 0:14:46- I have a picture in my mind and - I see my reflection in the mirror.

0:14:46 > 0:14:51- That's what the audience will see - when I stand in front of them.

0:14:54 > 0:14:56- It's a transition...

0:14:56 > 0:15:00- ..from being me as you see me today - to being me, the performer.

0:15:01 > 0:15:03- # PORGI AMOR # - from The Marriage of Figaro - by Mozart

0:15:03 > 0:15:09- # Porgi, amor

0:15:11 > 0:15:18- # Qualche ristoro... #

0:15:21 > 0:15:26- If the audience enjoys it - and makes that clear, at the end...

0:15:26 > 0:15:30- ..it gives you a real lift - as a person.

0:15:30 > 0:15:34- Knowing - I've given other people enjoyment...

0:15:34 > 0:15:36- ..gives me a sense of achievement.

0:15:37 > 0:15:43- # Almen morir #

0:16:22 > 0:16:26- I really enjoy wearing old clothes.

0:16:26 > 0:16:30- My mother collected them - then passed them down to me.

0:16:31 > 0:16:35- I love seeing my wardrobe - full of old clothes.

0:16:43 > 0:16:45- I don't follow fashion.

0:16:45 > 0:16:49- I don't see a certain style - and think, "I must have it!"

0:16:49 > 0:16:53- I enjoy mixing old clothes - and new styles.

0:16:53 > 0:16:59- They mean a lot more to me than - clothes anyone can buy in any shop.

0:16:59 > 0:17:04- These clothes are different and - a part of me loves to be different.

0:17:07 > 0:17:10- There isn't much room here, - so I'll sit on the bed...

0:17:11 > 0:17:14- ..and you can pull everything out - for me to see.

0:17:14 > 0:17:16- These are fur coats.

0:17:16 > 0:17:22- That's my great-grandmother's coat - and this is my grandmother's coat.

0:17:22 > 0:17:26- We keep them in dresses - so they don't get ruined.

0:17:26 > 0:17:27- The dresses are cute!

0:17:28 > 0:17:32- Shall we start with - your great-grandmother's clothes?

0:17:33 > 0:17:37- I have a hat which belonged - to my great-grandmother.

0:17:39 > 0:17:40- This is lovely!

0:17:46 > 0:17:50- It's in fashion. - You could buy a hat like that today.

0:17:50 > 0:17:51- May I try it?

0:17:51 > 0:17:53- May I try it?- - Yes, of course. It'll suit you.

0:17:54 > 0:17:56- Oh, it's nice!

0:17:56 > 0:17:59- It matches your jacket.

0:17:59 > 0:18:01- I have a Welsh tweed shawl too.

0:18:01 > 0:18:03- It's lovely.

0:18:03 > 0:18:07- I sewed a button on it, - so I have this in the middle.

0:18:07 > 0:18:08- It's nice.

0:18:10 > 0:18:12- I have lots of her old bags too.

0:18:12 > 0:18:15- Let's move into the wardrobe.

0:18:15 > 0:18:17- Let's move into the wardrobe.- - These are lovely.

0:18:19 > 0:18:22- These are my grandmother's skirts.

0:18:22 > 0:18:24- They're made of old tweed.

0:18:24 > 0:18:26- Aren't they lovely?

0:18:26 > 0:18:27- Aren't they lovely?- - Fantastic!

0:18:28 > 0:18:35- I like them, so I'll wear them - with a jumper and a pair of boots.

0:18:36 > 0:18:39- I like the weave. It's wonderful.

0:18:39 > 0:18:41- The colour's fantastic.

0:18:41 > 0:18:44- You've even - found something to match it!

0:18:45 > 0:18:49- This tweed skirt - also belonged to my grandmother.

0:18:50 > 0:18:52- I love the buttons on this one.

0:18:52 > 0:18:54- They go - all the way down to the floor.

0:18:55 > 0:18:56- Isn't it lovely?

0:18:56 > 0:18:58- Isn't it lovely?- - Yes, it's great.

0:18:59 > 0:19:02- There was a matching jacket - but I've no idea where it is.

0:19:04 > 0:19:06- I like the old things.

0:19:06 > 0:19:09- I lost my grandmother - when I was two years old...

0:19:09 > 0:19:14- ..but my great-grandmother was here - until three years ago.

0:19:14 > 0:19:18- I feel I know my grandmother - because I have her clothes.

0:19:18 > 0:19:22- She's with me when I wear them. - They have sentimental value.

0:19:51 > 0:19:53- This is my grandmother's old top.

0:19:53 > 0:19:56- Look at those wonderful sequins!

0:19:56 > 0:19:57- That blue is lovely.

0:19:58 > 0:19:59- Ooh! Sequins on wool.

0:20:01 > 0:20:03- Yes. You often see them on silk.

0:20:03 > 0:20:05- The wool is warm too.

0:20:07 > 0:20:10- This is from - my father's side of the family.

0:20:11 > 0:20:15- This jacket belonged to my aunt - and it's probably from the 1960s.

0:20:16 > 0:20:18- I see these - in high street shops today.

0:20:19 > 0:20:20- It's back in fashion.

0:20:20 > 0:20:23- There are - lots of 1960s clothes around.

0:20:23 > 0:20:26- I'm lucky, - I don't have to pay for them!

0:20:27 > 0:20:30- I think the collar - makes it look like Sali Mali's coat.

0:20:34 > 0:20:36- Tell me about that wonderful dress.

0:20:36 > 0:20:38- Tell me about that wonderful dress.- - My grandmother dressed smartly.

0:20:38 > 0:20:41- She went to smart places - with my grandfather.

0:20:42 > 0:20:45- She had her clothes handmade - in London.

0:20:45 > 0:20:47- This is one of her dresses.

0:20:47 > 0:20:49- I suppose it's a ball gown.

0:20:49 > 0:20:51- Isn't it exquisite?

0:20:51 > 0:20:52- Isn't it exquisite?- - Yes.

0:20:53 > 0:20:56- I love the fact - it has a few marks here and there.

0:20:57 > 0:21:00- It shows it's old - and not a new, off-the-peg dress.

0:21:00 > 0:21:04- I'd love to see myself wearing it.

0:21:25 > 0:21:29- The wonderful thing is - my grandmother never got old.

0:21:30 > 0:21:35- She died when she was young, so - I think of her as a glamorous lady.

0:21:49 > 0:21:53- I noticed - these Welsh tweed cushion covers.

0:21:53 > 0:21:55- They're lovely.

0:21:55 > 0:22:00- I make them myself and, rather than - put a cushion inside them...

0:22:00 > 0:22:02- ..I fill them with old clothes.

0:22:02 > 0:22:04- I can't get rid of them!

0:22:04 > 0:22:07- My mother used to wear - this pink dress.

0:22:08 > 0:22:09- It's amazing!

0:22:09 > 0:22:14- My mother wore this dress - when she was pregnant.

0:22:15 > 0:22:16- It's really nice.

0:22:16 > 0:22:20- This blouse belonged - to my great-grandmother.

0:22:20 > 0:22:23- You'd see this in the shops today, - wouldn't you?

0:22:24 > 0:22:25- Yes, that's true.

0:22:25 > 0:22:27- I think we'd better stop...

0:22:27 > 0:22:31- ..before I get buried - beneath a mountain of clothes!

0:22:32 > 0:22:38- I'm getting to know your grandmother - and great-grandmother.

0:23:01 > 0:23:06- They belonged to my grandmother - and to my great-grandmother...

0:23:06 > 0:23:08- ..but I now feel they belong to me.

0:23:09 > 0:23:14- They're a part of me, not just of my - grandmother and great-grandmother.

0:23:19 > 0:23:23- Sometimes, Mam and I will have - a sentimental evening...

0:23:23 > 0:23:28- ..and we'll pull out old photos - and old clothes and talk about them.

0:23:28 > 0:23:32- We reminisce about Mam's memories - of her mother wearing them.

0:23:33 > 0:23:37- I hope Nanw passes them on - to the next generation.

0:23:37 > 0:23:42- I want future generations - of my family to have these clothes.

0:23:42 > 0:23:43- They mean a lot to me.

0:24:14 > 0:24:16- S4C subtitles by Eirlys A Jones

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