Pennod 13

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0:00:00 > 0:00:01- In this programme...

0:00:02 > 0:00:05- ..a librarian seeking advice - on how to enjoy clothes.

0:00:06 > 0:00:11- A young student whose dress sense - reflects his musical taste.

0:00:14 > 0:00:17- And an actress and novelist - who favours a muted style.

0:00:18 > 0:00:19- Welcome to Cwpwrdd Dillad.

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0:00:47 > 0:00:52- I wear clothes to conceal - my nakedness and to keep me warm.

0:00:52 > 0:00:54- I'm not very style-conscious.

0:00:56 > 0:01:00- I see obsession with style - and clothes as a weakness in a man.

0:01:06 > 0:01:10- I was raised to disregard clothes.

0:01:12 > 0:01:14- I was raised to disregard style.

0:01:18 > 0:01:21- My family had little money...

0:01:21 > 0:01:25- ..so we watched carefully - what was spent on clothes.

0:01:28 > 0:01:32- We bought clothes in charity shops - or in bargain basements.

0:01:35 > 0:01:40- There was a mark of Cain about - poverty in America when I grew up.

0:01:41 > 0:01:47- I was raised in the traditions - of a conservative church.

0:01:47 > 0:01:49- The church believed - that spending money...

0:01:51 > 0:01:56- ..on items such as make-up, - dying hair, cinema trips...

0:01:56 > 0:01:58- ..and buying - expensive or trendy clothes...

0:01:58 > 0:02:00- ..was sinful.

0:02:01 > 0:02:04- Is that your mother?

0:02:04 > 0:02:06- Is that your mother?- - Yes.

0:02:06 > 0:02:08- She looks smartly dressed.

0:02:08 > 0:02:09- I think of her...

0:02:10 > 0:02:15- ..as a woman who wore clothes - that screamed, "Impoverished!"

0:02:17 > 0:02:22- I compared her with other women and - thought, "Must you look so poor?"

0:02:24 > 0:02:26- I feel sorry for her.

0:02:27 > 0:02:29- You have four adoptive children.

0:02:30 > 0:02:33- Does that mean - you had to be careful with money?

0:02:34 > 0:02:37- In order to receive - the Adoption Allowance...

0:02:37 > 0:02:42- ..we had to keep track of every - penny we spent for over ten years.

0:02:43 > 0:02:48- We had to do it in order to prove we - qualified for financial assistance.

0:02:48 > 0:02:52- The discipline - of keeping track of money...

0:02:54 > 0:02:58- ..helped us always think, - "Do we need to buy this?"

0:02:59 > 0:03:03- I don't think we spent - more than 50 per year on clothes.

0:03:07 > 0:03:09- Looking at that photo of you...

0:03:10 > 0:03:14- ..I'd have to say it seems to me - you're wearing that shirt today!

0:03:15 > 0:03:16- Yes, it's the same shirt.

0:03:17 > 0:03:18- When was that photo taken?

0:03:19 > 0:03:22- It was taken on the day - Rhys came to us, as a baby.

0:03:23 > 0:03:25- That was in November 1981.

0:03:27 > 0:03:29- I still wear that shirt.

0:03:31 > 0:03:33- I don't see anything wrong with it.

0:03:45 > 0:03:50- I don't want - to spend a fortune on clothes.

0:03:55 > 0:03:59- I want to make sure - the clothes I wear are ethical.

0:03:59 > 0:04:03- I refuse to wear clothes - made by children in some sweatshop.

0:04:05 > 0:04:07- I won't wear clothes...

0:04:07 > 0:04:12- ..if the production process - pollutes the environment.

0:04:13 > 0:04:14- I strive to avoid it.

0:04:18 > 0:04:22- What sort of clothes are there - in your wardrobe?

0:04:22 > 0:04:24- What do you wear from day to day?

0:04:25 > 0:04:28- Half my clothes - belonged to people who are now dead.

0:04:29 > 0:04:30- People who are dead?

0:04:31 > 0:04:35- Yes, when family members die, - I inherit their clothes.

0:04:35 > 0:04:38- Why? Is it for sentimental - or practical reasons?

0:04:38 > 0:04:40- For practical reasons.

0:04:46 > 0:04:50- What made you - come to this momentous decision?

0:04:50 > 0:04:54- For the first time in your life, - you want to be transformed.

0:04:54 > 0:04:58- Why do you want to start thinking - about the way you look?

0:04:59 > 0:05:00- I'm nearly 61 years old.

0:05:01 > 0:05:04- In a sense, - I feel the need to break free...

0:05:05 > 0:05:08- ..from the constraints - of my background.

0:05:08 > 0:05:11- Break free from the constraints - of my childhood.

0:05:13 > 0:05:14- I feel dowdy.

0:05:16 > 0:05:18- I feel I dress in a dowdy manner.

0:05:21 > 0:05:24- My children - have nagged me for years...

0:05:24 > 0:05:27- ..to do something - about the way I dress.

0:05:28 > 0:05:29- They've given up on me.

0:05:30 > 0:05:34- Now that they've given up on me, - I think it's time I did it!

0:05:49 > 0:05:52- The clothes I've chosen aren't cheap - but are of good quality.

0:05:53 > 0:05:56- Howies fabrics are all organic.

0:05:57 > 0:06:01- The Patagonia company - uses recycled garments.

0:06:01 > 0:06:06- I want to give all your jackets - to a charity shop!

0:06:06 > 0:06:08- They came from charity shops!

0:06:11 > 0:06:15- I bought Barbour coats for you - as the fabric is made in Britain.

0:06:15 > 0:06:18- They're also stitched in Britain.

0:06:18 > 0:06:21- This reduces their carbon footprint.

0:06:22 > 0:06:25- You've played safe with your shoes - over the years.

0:06:26 > 0:06:30- You've worn a lot of trainers - and black shoes.

0:06:30 > 0:06:35- I've bought some more interesting - but ethical shoes for you.

0:06:35 > 0:06:38- I hope this experience - makes you see...

0:06:38 > 0:06:42- ..it's possible to invest money - in high quality clothes.

0:06:50 > 0:06:51- I feel very different.

0:06:53 > 0:06:55- I've never worn red before.

0:06:55 > 0:06:57- I like it.

0:06:57 > 0:07:00- I've never considered - wearing red before.

0:07:02 > 0:07:04- It opens a new door for me.

0:07:08 > 0:07:11- I have every right to look neat.

0:07:12 > 0:07:13- I don't have to look dowdy.

0:07:21 > 0:07:23- Well, Mr Roger Fenton!

0:07:23 > 0:07:24- You look smart.

0:07:25 > 0:07:26- Thank you very much.

0:07:28 > 0:07:29- Do you feel smart?

0:07:30 > 0:07:31- I feel nervous.

0:07:31 > 0:07:34- I don't know - what other people will think...

0:07:35 > 0:07:40- ..when they see me in clothes which - are different from my usual attire.

0:07:41 > 0:07:44- I must say, - it's an amazing transformation.

0:07:45 > 0:07:47- Your beard is outstanding.

0:07:47 > 0:07:49- Your beard is outstanding.- - That's what makes me most nervous.

0:07:49 > 0:07:53- I'm not convinced - I'll keep this style.

0:07:54 > 0:07:56- Eleanor is a formidable woman!

0:07:56 > 0:07:58- She can be really mean!

0:08:08 > 0:08:12- You mentioned that - undergoing this transformation...

0:08:13 > 0:08:18- ..would help you release yourself - from the shackles of your childhood.

0:08:20 > 0:08:26- Does it still feel sinful - to wear these new clothes?

0:08:26 > 0:08:32- For ten years, I seem to have been - changing myself from the inside out.

0:08:32 > 0:08:37- This is the first time that change - has manifested itself...

0:08:37 > 0:08:39- ..as something external.

0:08:40 > 0:08:44- I don't want to be influenced by it.

0:08:45 > 0:08:47- I feel I can put it behind me, - in a sense.

0:08:54 > 0:08:55- Look at the glasses!

0:08:55 > 0:08:57- Look at the glasses!- - Oh, wow!

0:08:57 > 0:08:59- Oh, my gosh!

0:09:00 > 0:09:03- I bet you've never seen these two - so quiet!

0:09:03 > 0:09:05- They're lost for words.

0:09:06 > 0:09:08- You look nice. I like it.

0:09:08 > 0:09:11- They're stunned - because I'm stunning!

0:09:12 > 0:09:16- I think my transformation - is almost complete.

0:09:19 > 0:09:20- This is the final step.

0:09:21 > 0:09:23- Eleanor has put me on a path...

0:09:24 > 0:09:27- ..which I'll follow - throughout my sunset years.

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0:09:44 > 0:09:46- I'm a confident, dashing character.

0:09:47 > 0:09:49- My clothes reflect that.

0:09:54 > 0:09:58- I get the odd dig in Aberystwyth - because I dress differently.

0:09:59 > 0:10:01- It's their problem, not mine.

0:10:04 > 0:10:07- I read music magazines - such as NME and Q.

0:10:08 > 0:10:12- I like to steal ideas - from people such as Klaxons...

0:10:13 > 0:10:18- ..and from M.I.A., who's a woman - but whose fashion is really cool.

0:10:18 > 0:10:23- I steal ideas from magazines and - blend them to create my own style.

0:10:23 > 0:10:26- In the sixth-form common room, - at school...

0:10:26 > 0:10:30- ..there are always - copies of Vogue or Glamour.

0:10:30 > 0:10:32- I steal ideas from everywhere.

0:10:46 > 0:10:48- # Custard Tart, Custard Tart

0:10:48 > 0:10:50- # Do you love me more

0:10:50 > 0:10:52- # Than your last lover? #

0:10:52 > 0:10:55- Guide me through your wardrobe.

0:10:55 > 0:10:56- Guide me through your wardrobe.- - No problem.

0:10:56 > 0:11:00- There's an interesting story - behind this hoody.

0:11:00 > 0:11:03- Dad phoned me - when he was in H&M in London...

0:11:03 > 0:11:06- ..and he offered - to buy me something.

0:11:06 > 0:11:09- I asked him - to buy something New Rave for me.

0:11:10 > 0:11:13- It was a test - to see how trendy Dad is...

0:11:13 > 0:11:16- ..and to see - if he knows what New Rave is.

0:11:17 > 0:11:20- He came home with this - which is quite New Rave.

0:11:21 > 0:11:22- Congratulations, Dad!

0:11:22 > 0:11:24- Congratulations, Dad!- - Well done, Dad!

0:11:24 > 0:11:26- He passed the test.

0:11:26 > 0:11:30- He probably asked for advice - from a shop assistant!

0:11:30 > 0:11:34- Yes, my dad is cool but not cool - enough to know what New Rave is!

0:11:47 > 0:11:49- Does music inspire you - in what you wear?

0:11:50 > 0:11:53- Yes, it definitely does inspire me - subconsciously.

0:11:54 > 0:11:59- If I get dressed, listening to pop, - such as Diffiniad...

0:11:59 > 0:12:01- ..or to rock, such as Mattoidz...

0:12:02 > 0:12:06- ..that music - will influence the way I dress.

0:12:06 > 0:12:09- If I'm listening to pop, - I'll be colourful.

0:12:09 > 0:12:13- If I'm listening to indie, - I'll be more toned town.

0:12:14 > 0:12:15- # A little bit greedy

0:12:16 > 0:12:18- # I want it all

0:12:18 > 0:12:21- # Go ahead, take it

0:12:21 > 0:12:23- # Take everything I have

0:12:24 > 0:12:27- # Don't choose me... #

0:12:28 > 0:12:30- That hat is fantastic.

0:12:30 > 0:12:35- I found this in the mud - at last year's Wakestock.

0:12:35 > 0:12:39- I didn't know what colour it was - until I washed it.

0:12:39 > 0:12:42- It's quite Gangsta, isn't it?

0:12:42 > 0:12:44- It doesn't quite suit you!

0:12:44 > 0:12:45- Never mind.

0:12:45 > 0:12:51- I hope a Gangsta doesn't knock - on my door to claim his hat!

0:12:52 > 0:12:54- You like scarves too.

0:12:54 > 0:12:56- Yes, especially these scarves.

0:12:57 > 0:13:00- They're light - but they're quite big...

0:13:00 > 0:13:03- ..so I wear them - in summer and winter.

0:13:03 > 0:13:07- If I'm cold when I'm at a festival, - it becomes a blanket.

0:13:07 > 0:13:09- It can also be a picnic blanket!

0:13:11 > 0:13:14- # Years of fighting without success

0:13:14 > 0:13:16- # See a nation die and a shell fill

0:13:17 > 0:13:19- # New faces but the same old lies

0:13:19 > 0:13:22- # One nation thrives, - another suffocates... #

0:13:23 > 0:13:28- I was one of the lead vocalists - for three hip hop bands.

0:13:29 > 0:13:33- It was important for me - to capture the audience's attention.

0:13:33 > 0:13:38- Wearing colourful, patterned clothes - is a good way to do it!

0:13:39 > 0:13:43- Let's talk about - these colourful T-shirts of yours.

0:13:43 > 0:13:45- This is my Castell Rock T-shirt.

0:13:46 > 0:13:51- Castell Rock is a music festival - which is held at Aberystwyth Castle.

0:13:53 > 0:13:55- This T-shirt means a lot to me.

0:13:55 > 0:13:58- This is a Manna T-shirt.

0:13:59 > 0:14:01- It's a Christian band.

0:14:01 > 0:14:04- I wore this on stage - at Sesiwn Fawr Dolgellau.

0:14:05 > 0:14:08- We were on - just before the Super Furries.

0:14:08 > 0:14:10- That means a lot to me.

0:14:10 > 0:14:14- I got that free, - with the proviso I wore it on stage.

0:14:14 > 0:14:16- Tell me about your hair.

0:14:16 > 0:14:18- It's really cool.

0:14:18 > 0:14:22- It's quite 1980s, according - to the feedback I've had so far.

0:14:22 > 0:14:25- It took a while - to get to this model.

0:14:25 > 0:14:27- This is the finished article.

0:14:28 > 0:14:30- It's naturally curly?

0:14:30 > 0:14:32- Yes, it's naturally curly.

0:14:32 > 0:14:35- I have one short side - and the back is short too.

0:14:36 > 0:14:39- It's like a wave, going to one side.

0:14:41 > 0:14:45- I use a diffuser, curling mousse, - wax and hairspray in the mornings!

0:14:46 > 0:14:48- I sound like a girl, don't I?

0:14:48 > 0:14:49- You use more products than me!

0:14:49 > 0:14:50- You use more products than me!- - That's not good!

0:14:56 > 0:14:59- People think of the college years...

0:14:59 > 0:15:03- ..as the time of development - and experimentation.

0:15:04 > 0:15:09- Yes, and Aberystwyth isn't the - world's capital city of fashion!

0:15:09 > 0:15:13- I tend to stand out from the crowd - in Aberystwyth...

0:15:14 > 0:15:16- ..but I was in London last week - and didn't stand out at all.

0:15:17 > 0:15:20- When I go to Cardiff...

0:15:20 > 0:15:22- ..I'll have to be - a bit more over the top!

0:15:23 > 0:15:24- I'm ready for it!

0:15:41 > 0:15:47- I enjoy clothes and I enjoy looking - at what other people are wearing.

0:15:51 > 0:15:54- I buy items - in which I feel comfortable.

0:15:54 > 0:15:59- If I feel comfortable in my clothes, - it gives me a real boost.

0:16:04 > 0:16:10- I don't wear bright colours, - bold prints or flowery garments.

0:16:10 > 0:16:15- Everything tends to be plain - and I wear a lot of black and grey.

0:16:15 > 0:16:18- I wear whites and neutrals - in the summer.

0:16:19 > 0:16:21- Why do you wear muted colours?

0:16:22 > 0:16:24- I'm not sure.

0:16:24 > 0:16:27- I think I have a fear - of being overdressed.

0:16:27 > 0:16:33- The thought of walking into a room - dressed inappropriately scares me!

0:16:33 > 0:16:37- I don't want to be dressed - differently from everyone else.

0:16:38 > 0:16:42- That's why I dress in a manner - which won't attract attention.

0:16:42 > 0:16:47- That may explain why my wardrobe is - full of clothes which I never wear!

0:16:48 > 0:16:54- I'd rather people say, "Doesn't - Mari Emlyn look scruffy tonight?"...

0:16:54 > 0:16:59- ..rather than say, "Oh, did you see - Mari Emlyn, dressed to the nines?"

0:16:59 > 0:17:03- I prefer to think - people talk about me the other way.

0:17:08 > 0:17:12- You have one dark wardrobe - and one muted wardrobe.

0:17:13 > 0:17:15- This is my winter wardrobe.

0:17:15 > 0:17:16- Heavy, dark clothes.

0:17:16 > 0:17:19- I own a few little black dresses.

0:17:19 > 0:17:22- I feel comfortable - in little black dresses.

0:17:22 > 0:17:25- I never feel overdressed in them.

0:17:25 > 0:17:27- I bought this in M&S.

0:17:27 > 0:17:32- The two different straps make it - a little black dress with a twist.

0:17:33 > 0:17:36- You can dress up or down - when you wear it.

0:17:36 > 0:17:37- Yes, exactly.

0:17:38 > 0:17:40- This is one of my favourites.

0:17:40 > 0:17:42- I have worn this one.

0:17:42 > 0:17:44- I bought it when we were in France.

0:17:44 > 0:17:49- I went there when I was writing - a novel about the First World War.

0:17:49 > 0:17:51- I had to do some research.

0:17:53 > 0:17:55- I bought this dress - when I was there.

0:17:55 > 0:17:57- I'm very fond of this dress.

0:17:58 > 0:18:01- It's a special occasion dress.

0:18:22 > 0:18:27- Would you say you had a weakness - for a particular item of clothing?

0:18:27 > 0:18:31- Yes, I'd definitely say - I have a weakness for scarves.

0:18:31 > 0:18:34- I wear a scarf almost every day.

0:18:36 > 0:18:39- I wear a small scarf like this - when I'm at home.

0:18:39 > 0:18:42- I'd wear a bigger scarf to go out.

0:18:42 > 0:18:45- By wearing a scarf, - you add a splash of colour.

0:18:46 > 0:18:47- Yes, that's right.

0:18:48 > 0:18:52- Some women use lipstick - to bring colour to their faces...

0:18:52 > 0:18:54- ..and some women wear big earrings.

0:18:56 > 0:18:59- I bring colour to my face - by wearing a scarf.

0:18:59 > 0:19:00- I have a long neck.

0:19:01 > 0:19:04- Without the scarf, - I feel like a giraffe!

0:19:05 > 0:19:10- The scarf adds colour to my face - and it makes me feel more confident.

0:19:30 > 0:19:31- I like long skirts.

0:19:32 > 0:19:37- That may stem from my upbringing, - as a child of 1960s and the 1970s.

0:19:37 > 0:19:40- My mother - wore long dresses and skirts...

0:19:41 > 0:19:46- ..when she went for a drink with - a neighbour or went out to dinner.

0:19:46 > 0:19:49- Whenever I knew she was going out...

0:19:49 > 0:19:55- ..I'd look forward to seeing which - of her long dresses Mam would wear.

0:20:05 > 0:20:08- My summery clothes are in here.

0:20:09 > 0:20:12- This isn't summery! - I've had it since I was 17!

0:20:13 > 0:20:17- It was one of the first items - I bought with my own money.

0:20:17 > 0:20:19- The colours are quite unusual.

0:20:20 > 0:20:25- I wore this to Jarman gigs down the - Docks as Cardiff Bay was then known.

0:20:25 > 0:20:29- He played in the Casablanca - and in other venues.

0:20:29 > 0:20:31- It's seen some good times!

0:20:31 > 0:20:35- I can't get rid of it because it has - huge sentimental value.

0:20:44 > 0:20:46- I don't have an image.

0:20:46 > 0:20:50- I don't really follow fashion.

0:20:52 > 0:20:57- I wear what I wore when I was - at school - jeans and a T-shirt.

0:20:58 > 0:20:59- My style hasn't changed.

0:21:06 > 0:21:08- This is quite fancy.

0:21:08 > 0:21:10- I bought it in a second-hand shop.

0:21:10 > 0:21:15- Again, you need a special occasion - to wear a dress like this.

0:21:15 > 0:21:20- It's interesting because you have - a lot of glamorous dresses.

0:21:20 > 0:21:25- It's more enjoyable to buy something - like this than everyday clothes.

0:21:25 > 0:21:28- Unfortunately, - you get less wear from them.

0:21:28 > 0:21:32- I've worn that once, - to a Caernarfon Rugby Club dinner.

0:21:33 > 0:21:37- I felt a bit overdressed - but I didn't care!

0:21:39 > 0:21:42- I enjoy buying clothes - for special occasions...

0:21:43 > 0:21:45- ..but I rarely wear them.

0:21:55 > 0:22:00- I'm waiting for a special occasion - that never seems to materialize.

0:22:00 > 0:22:05- As you get older, - you go to fewer weddings.

0:22:05 > 0:22:07- It sounds like a big sob story!

0:22:08 > 0:22:11- I'm not invited to weddings, - as I once was.

0:22:11 > 0:22:14- I go to more funerals than weddings!

0:22:14 > 0:22:17- Maybe that's why - I have so many black clothes.

0:22:18 > 0:22:22- The special occasions on which I'd - wear my unusual clothes...

0:22:22 > 0:22:25- ..are very few and far between.

0:22:40 > 0:22:44- You should throw a party and tell - your guests to dress smartly.

0:22:44 > 0:22:46- A posh party!

0:22:47 > 0:22:48- Am I invited?

0:22:48 > 0:22:50- Am I invited?- - Yes.

0:23:17 > 0:23:20- S4C subtitles by Eirlys A Jones

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