Pennod 8

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0:00:00 > 0:00:03- In this programme, - a lady who has lost weight...

0:00:04 > 0:00:06- ..but hasn't lost - her sense of style.

0:00:07 > 0:00:12- Eleanor shops for a young man - who is climbing the career ladder.

0:00:14 > 0:00:16- We meet a woman who loves to shop.

0:00:16 > 0:00:18- Welcome to Cwpwrdd Dillad.

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0:00:46 > 0:00:48- I enjoy having nice things.

0:00:48 > 0:00:51- I don't wear flashy clothes.

0:00:52 > 0:00:56- No busy patterns or bold colours, - just something unusual.

0:01:04 > 0:01:07- When I was around three years old...

0:01:07 > 0:01:10- ..I remember - the minister coming to the house.

0:01:10 > 0:01:14- I was wearing my mother's clothes - and her high heels.

0:01:15 > 0:01:18- The minister said, - "Ooh, you've dressed up!"

0:01:19 > 0:01:21- I replied, "No, this is New Look."

0:01:23 > 0:01:27- Dior's New Look came out in 1947.

0:01:27 > 0:01:30- It took a year to reach Drefach!

0:01:30 > 0:01:33- We argued every day - before school...

0:01:34 > 0:01:39- ..because I didn't want to wear - the clothes my mother chose for me.

0:01:39 > 0:01:42- Mam once took me - to a shop in Llanelli...

0:01:43 > 0:01:45- ..to buy some new clothes.

0:01:45 > 0:01:49- I tried everything in the shop - but I didn't like a thing!

0:01:49 > 0:01:50- We left empty-handed.

0:01:51 > 0:01:56- The shopkeeper said, "You'll never - find a husband - you're too fussy!"

0:01:56 > 0:01:57- He was right.

0:02:04 > 0:02:06- I wanted something more.

0:02:06 > 0:02:09- I didn't know what, - as I was too young then.

0:02:10 > 0:02:14- My friends talked about - getting married and having children.

0:02:15 > 0:02:18- They dreamt of houses, - televisions and double beds...

0:02:19 > 0:02:23- ..but I wasn't - remotely interested in those things.

0:02:24 > 0:02:27- I wanted to - travel down The Silk Road.

0:02:27 > 0:02:30- I wanted to see the Bosphorus...

0:02:30 > 0:02:34- ..and listen to the sound - of Sufi chanting in the air.

0:02:35 > 0:02:38- When I first saw Paris, - I fell in love.

0:02:38 > 0:02:41- I still go to Paris - once or twice a year.

0:02:42 > 0:02:48- I enjoy visiting - Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt...

0:02:49 > 0:02:53- ..and I've been to India, - Istanbul and Hungary.

0:02:54 > 0:02:56- Wherever I go...

0:02:56 > 0:02:59- ..I buy clothes, - jewellery or textiles.

0:03:08 > 0:03:10- This is an antique Moroccan robe.

0:03:10 > 0:03:14- My sisters bought it for me - when we visited Marrakech.

0:03:14 > 0:03:18- We were there - to celebrate my 60th birthday.

0:03:19 > 0:03:23- It's a little bit fragile - but it's really beautiful.

0:03:26 > 0:03:30- It's silk with gold braiding - running down here.

0:03:31 > 0:03:35- It's amazing and it reminds me - of my time in Marrakech.

0:03:42 > 0:03:48- I left Drefach in 1964 to go - to the University of East Anglia.

0:03:48 > 0:03:54- Before then, my main influences - were people like Audrey Hepburn.

0:03:54 > 0:03:58- I wore suits and high heels.

0:03:58 > 0:04:01- The highlight was going - to a hymn-singing festival...

0:04:01 > 0:04:04- ..wearing a new hat and a new suit.

0:04:04 > 0:04:08- I'd also buy - matching shoes, gloves and handbag.

0:04:08 > 0:04:11- That was my style - before I went to university.

0:04:11 > 0:04:17- Once I became a student, I started - to wear jeans and baggy sweaters.

0:04:17 > 0:04:21- I went to Paris when I was - a student, back in the 1960s...

0:04:21 > 0:04:25- ..and everyone wore black polo necks - and black berets.

0:04:27 > 0:04:31- I switched from being Audrey Hepburn - to being Juliette Greco!

0:04:32 > 0:04:33- That type of style.

0:04:37 > 0:04:39- This is an antique Japanese robe.

0:04:40 > 0:04:44- I bought it years ago in a shop - just off Portobello Road.

0:04:44 > 0:04:50- She sold antique kimonos, which you - could part exchange annually.

0:04:51 > 0:04:55- You could buy quite a cheap kimono, - go back when you had some money...

0:04:56 > 0:04:58- ..and swap it - for a more expensive one.

0:04:59 > 0:05:02- It took me three or four upgrades - to get this one.

0:05:09 > 0:05:11- Cedric was fabulous!

0:05:13 > 0:05:18- We met when I was doing a course at - the college where he was the Dean.

0:05:19 > 0:05:21- We fell in love straightaway.

0:05:22 > 0:05:24- Before I met him, I was really slim.

0:05:24 > 0:05:27- All I kept in my fridge...

0:05:27 > 0:05:31- ..was white wine, - yogurts and nail varnish!

0:05:32 > 0:05:34- That's all you'd find in my fridge!

0:05:34 > 0:05:37- Once we moved in together, - the fridge was full.

0:05:37 > 0:05:39- Everything was wonderful.

0:05:40 > 0:05:42- I was so happy, - I didn't put on weight.

0:05:42 > 0:05:44- I'd never been fat.

0:05:44 > 0:05:47- That's when the weight - started to creep on.

0:05:48 > 0:05:51- I moved from London - to Stratford-upon-Avon...

0:05:52 > 0:05:56- ..to take up the post - of vice principal at the college.

0:05:56 > 0:06:02- Two days before the move, - my partner died very suddenly.

0:06:02 > 0:06:07- I moved to Stratford - and lived there alone.

0:06:07 > 0:06:11- I didn't know anyone and I'd taken - on a very demanding job.

0:06:12 > 0:06:14- It was very stressful.

0:06:14 > 0:06:16- I ate for emotional comfort.

0:06:18 > 0:06:20- All I did was work and eat.

0:06:20 > 0:06:24- Gradually, I had to buy - larger sizes all the time.

0:06:24 > 0:06:28- They don't make nice clothes - for large people.

0:06:28 > 0:06:31- If they do make them, - they cost a fortune.

0:06:32 > 0:06:34- You must search for clothes...

0:06:35 > 0:06:40- ..and you must be more imaginative - in the way you put things together.

0:06:40 > 0:06:44- I see some large people - who have no idea how to dress.

0:06:44 > 0:06:47- Their clothes - don't enhance their shapes.

0:06:48 > 0:06:50- You can still get your hair done...

0:06:50 > 0:06:54- ..wear make-up, wear pretty shoes - and wear jewellery.

0:06:55 > 0:06:58- All you do - is keep the clothes plain.

0:06:58 > 0:07:03- People always told me I - dressed smartly and looked elegant.

0:07:04 > 0:07:07- Their unspoken words were, - "For a fat person."

0:07:09 > 0:07:11- This is a skirt.

0:07:12 > 0:07:14- It's square!

0:07:14 > 0:07:19- I thought I looked smart in this - tweed skirt, with the fringing.

0:07:21 > 0:07:25- It wasn't loose on me - - it fitted me.

0:07:25 > 0:07:29- This is a sweater - I bought from Dawn French's shop.

0:07:32 > 0:07:34- I have two of them.

0:07:34 > 0:07:35- Look how big it is!

0:07:37 > 0:07:40- I now wear this as a dress, - teamed with leggings.

0:07:41 > 0:07:43- It fitted me like a sweater, - at one time.

0:07:51 > 0:07:55- I was fed up with not being able - to buy clothes...

0:07:55 > 0:07:59- ..and not being able - to live the life I wanted to live.

0:07:59 > 0:08:03- I wanted to fly on aeroplanes - and sit in small cafes in Paris.

0:08:04 > 0:08:08- I felt so huge in confined spaces.

0:08:09 > 0:08:14- I decided to go to WeightWatchers - and I lost six stones in two years.

0:08:15 > 0:08:18- It made such a difference to me.

0:08:19 > 0:08:23- Being able to wear anything - in a shop makes you feel great...

0:08:23 > 0:08:26- ..when you've been fat for 20 years.

0:08:35 > 0:08:39- I know it sounds a bit shallow - when I talk about clothes like this.

0:08:39 > 0:08:44- I'm interested in more than clothes - but I do really love clothes!

0:08:45 > 0:08:47- I always have.

0:08:47 > 0:08:51- Good design and good fabrics - are amazing.

0:08:51 > 0:08:56- It makes you feel confident - and good about yourself.

0:08:56 > 0:08:58- It's worth it.

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0:09:19 > 0:09:21- This is SA1 - - the place to be in Swansea.

0:09:22 > 0:09:25- The marina area - has great potential...

0:09:26 > 0:09:30- ..and it's home to a young man - who also has great potential.

0:09:33 > 0:09:36- Congratulations on your new job, - Gwion.

0:09:36 > 0:09:41- What did you do for a living - previously and what did you wear?

0:09:41 > 0:09:43- I worked in local government.

0:09:43 > 0:09:46- It was really easy - to know what to wear.

0:09:46 > 0:09:49- I wore a shirt and tie - and I didn't need a suit.

0:09:50 > 0:09:55- I wore a suit occasionally but I - generally wore a shirt and tie.

0:09:55 > 0:09:56- Easy!

0:09:57 > 0:09:59- What exactly - is this new job of yours?

0:10:00 > 0:10:03- I'm the National Assembly - Liaison Officer...

0:10:03 > 0:10:06- ..to the Children's Commissioner - for Wales.

0:10:07 > 0:10:10- I champion the rights - of children and youth in Wales.

0:10:11 > 0:10:15- I also try to protect the rights - of children and young people.

0:10:15 > 0:10:18- I do this - within the political process.

0:10:18 > 0:10:21- I talk to politicians - and civil servants.

0:10:22 > 0:10:27- Will you dress differently when - you're working with young people?

0:10:27 > 0:10:29- Children and young people...

0:10:29 > 0:10:33- ..influence the field - in which the Commissioner works.

0:10:33 > 0:10:35- They shape his priorities.

0:10:36 > 0:10:39- They've said they don't want - the Swansea office...

0:10:40 > 0:10:44- ..to be a place - where people wear suits and ties.

0:10:45 > 0:10:48- It creates - a sort of barrier between us.

0:10:48 > 0:10:50- So I'll need two wardrobes for work.

0:10:51 > 0:10:54- It isn't easy to be formal, - yet informal.

0:10:55 > 0:10:58- If anyone can find the answer, - it's this woman.

0:10:58 > 0:11:01- Armed with bags of clothes...

0:11:01 > 0:11:06- ..she's ready to interrogate Gwion - and give him good, honest advice.

0:11:08 > 0:11:10- Gwion, do you enjoy shopping?

0:11:10 > 0:11:12- I don't mind shopping.

0:11:12 > 0:11:16- I struggle more - with shopping for work clothes...

0:11:17 > 0:11:20- ..because I resent - spending money on them!

0:11:22 > 0:11:25- I'm quite indecisive, in a way.

0:11:25 > 0:11:30- I feel very insecure when I feel - I'm outside my comfort zone.

0:11:32 > 0:11:35- Do you struggle - to find clothes which fit?

0:11:35 > 0:11:38- Yes, it's very hit and miss.

0:11:39 > 0:11:43- It depends on the brand name - or the shop.

0:11:43 > 0:11:45- Yes, it's often hit and miss.

0:11:47 > 0:11:52- You have a slight frame and - that limits your choice of clothes.

0:11:53 > 0:11:57- Slim, short men struggle - to find jackets which fit properly.

0:11:58 > 0:12:00- It's a problem.

0:12:01 > 0:12:04- Your body shape - is an inverted triangle.

0:12:04 > 0:12:08- You have broad shoulders - and a slim waist.

0:12:12 > 0:12:16- What does Gwion have - in his present wardrobe?

0:12:18 > 0:12:21- A lot of his everyday clothes - are quite dated.

0:12:21 > 0:12:25- There are very few formal garments - in his wardrobe.

0:12:26 > 0:12:28- He buys jumpers from Tesco.

0:12:30 > 0:12:32- Some of his shirts are scruffy.

0:12:32 > 0:12:34- He has few formal shirts.

0:12:35 > 0:12:38- Gwion has - a large circle of friends...

0:12:38 > 0:12:41- ..and men tend - to follow each other like sheep!

0:12:42 > 0:12:44- We do it too.

0:12:44 > 0:12:48- Yes, men and women do it because it - makes us feel more secure.

0:12:48 > 0:12:51- It's true - about clothes and activities.

0:12:53 > 0:12:56- I feel - it's time for Gwion to break free.

0:12:56 > 0:13:00- He needs to develop a new style.

0:13:00 > 0:13:03- There are no blazers - in his wardrobe.

0:13:03 > 0:13:05- That's a bit strange.

0:13:05 > 0:13:10- Is there a place for a blazer - in the wardrobe of a young man?

0:13:10 > 0:13:11- Yes.

0:13:11 > 0:13:13- Yes.- - To wear on what occasion?

0:13:13 > 0:13:17- To go out socially in the evening - with friends...

0:13:17 > 0:13:20- ..or for daywear on weekends.

0:13:21 > 0:13:25- It's a case of combining the formal - and the casual...

0:13:25 > 0:13:27- ..and having a new, fresh wardrobe?

0:13:28 > 0:13:29- Yes, that's right.

0:13:29 > 0:13:33- He's a young man, living in - a new flat in this stunning bay.

0:13:35 > 0:13:38- Let's see - what Eleanor has in the bags.

0:13:41 > 0:13:43- I like the colour.

0:13:43 > 0:13:45- Charcoal is great on you.

0:13:45 > 0:13:48- I'm not sure - about the size of the jacket.

0:13:48 > 0:13:50- It's too big for you.

0:13:50 > 0:13:52- Try a different suit.

0:13:57 > 0:13:59- I can't remember how to do this.

0:13:59 > 0:14:01- I can't remember how to do this.- - Shall I show you how it's done?

0:14:05 > 0:14:06- This looks much better.

0:14:07 > 0:14:09- It's a slim-fitting suit.

0:14:09 > 0:14:13- It shows off - the shape of your body really well.

0:14:16 > 0:14:19- The length is much shorter - than the first one...

0:14:19 > 0:14:23- ..which helps - make your legs look longer.

0:14:23 > 0:14:27- Flat-fronted trousers - are the best ones for you.

0:14:27 > 0:14:32- Ones with pleats at the front - make you look bigger.

0:14:32 > 0:14:34- They're pulling on the crotch.

0:14:35 > 0:14:37- Thanks for pointing that out!

0:14:41 > 0:14:45- What are Eleanor's top tips - for men...

0:14:45 > 0:14:49- ..who want to improve their image - to match their status?

0:14:50 > 0:14:52- Choose a shirt and tie - in a similar colour.

0:14:55 > 0:14:59- To look taller, wear the same colour - on the top and the bottom.

0:15:02 > 0:15:07- Brown shoes, brown belt. - Black shoes, black belt.

0:15:09 > 0:15:12- Please organize your wardrobe.

0:15:12 > 0:15:16- An organized wardrobe - leads to an organized life.

0:15:18 > 0:15:20- That's a good colour on you.

0:15:36 > 0:15:40- You can wear jumpers but you'd be - better off wearing tank tops.

0:15:50 > 0:15:53- This jumper is a small size.

0:15:55 > 0:15:58- But it's too big for you and doesn't - show off your body shape.

0:15:58 > 0:16:03- A fitted tank top - would look much better on you.

0:16:03 > 0:16:04- Do you agree?

0:16:04 > 0:16:06- Do you agree?- - I agree I shouldn't wear this!

0:16:20 > 0:16:23- Be honest! - What sort of experience was it?

0:16:24 > 0:16:27- Eleanor's honesty shocked me!

0:16:28 > 0:16:31- I think that was important.

0:16:32 > 0:16:35- She was honest with me, which meant - I could be honest with her.

0:16:36 > 0:16:37- I think she's right.

0:16:38 > 0:16:42- She's forced me to face - some uncomfortable truths...

0:16:42 > 0:16:46- ..about the need to move on - and grow up, perhaps.

0:16:46 > 0:16:50- I can reach that point but I must - get there, one step at a time.

0:16:51 > 0:16:53- I must familiarize myself with it.

0:16:53 > 0:16:55- It's a process, not an event.

0:17:10 > 0:17:11- I'm not eccentric.

0:17:11 > 0:17:16- I look at other people and think, - "Wow! That's really different."

0:17:16 > 0:17:19- "Those tights go with that skirt."

0:17:19 > 0:17:20- I'm content.

0:17:34 > 0:17:35- I follow fashion.

0:17:35 > 0:17:38- I'm happy to admit I follow fashion.

0:17:40 > 0:17:43- I have a very healthy interest - in fashion.

0:17:44 > 0:17:46- I've become quite girly.

0:17:47 > 0:17:49- When I had the children...

0:17:49 > 0:17:53- ..I made a conscious decision - not to be mumsy.

0:17:53 > 0:17:56- I didn't want to follow the norm.

0:17:56 > 0:17:59- No way would I wear - a pinafore dress!

0:17:59 > 0:18:04- I wanted to wear jeans, - boots, combat trousers and so on.

0:18:09 > 0:18:13- Jac is 10 years old - and Gweni is 4.

0:18:13 > 0:18:17- I was a young mother - and I wanted to keep my identity.

0:18:17 > 0:18:19- I wanted to be myself.

0:18:19 > 0:18:22- When you have children, - you can forget who you really are.

0:18:23 > 0:18:24- For my clothes...

0:18:25 > 0:18:29- ..I think I realized I could - look after myself and style myself.

0:18:29 > 0:18:33- That offered me a little bit - of an escape, to a certain extent.

0:18:40 > 0:18:42- I wore this to a wedding.

0:18:43 > 0:18:45- It creates a fantastic sound.

0:18:45 > 0:18:47- It creates a fantastic sound.- - Yes, and light bounces off it.

0:18:48 > 0:18:51- Gweni's little hands - are on it straightaway.

0:18:51 > 0:18:54- She loves to touch it - and play with it.

0:18:54 > 0:18:56- We went to a ballet one night.

0:18:56 > 0:19:00- People rarely dress up - to go to the theatre these days...

0:19:01 > 0:19:03- ..but they had, that night.

0:19:03 > 0:19:05- I wore this - and felt like a princess!

0:19:09 > 0:19:13- I adore shopping, - much to my husband's dismay!

0:19:13 > 0:19:17- I go shopping - when the children aren't with me.

0:19:17 > 0:19:19- Just me and my Top Shop card!

0:19:20 > 0:19:23- If I see something I like, - I can't say no.

0:19:30 > 0:19:31- I was a 1970s child.

0:19:32 > 0:19:35- I had short hair.

0:19:35 > 0:19:38- I don't think my parents - wanted a boy...

0:19:38 > 0:19:40- ..but I looked a bit like a boy, - at times.

0:19:40 > 0:19:42- I wore jeans with patches on them.

0:19:43 > 0:19:46- It was important to me - that it was just right for me.

0:19:49 > 0:19:52- Everyone in the 1970s - had a party dress.

0:19:52 > 0:19:55- You had to wear a cute dress - to go to parties.

0:19:56 > 0:19:58- Dad took me to Howells in Cardiff.

0:19:59 > 0:20:04- He asked six of the women - who worked there...

0:20:05 > 0:20:08- ..to each hold up a dress - in front of me.

0:20:09 > 0:20:12- It was as though I was - a sort of Paris Hilton!

0:20:13 > 0:20:16- I fell in love with fashion.

0:20:17 > 0:20:21- When I was 15, I didn't read - Just Seventeen - I read Vogue.

0:20:21 > 0:20:24- I wanted to escape into that world.

0:20:24 > 0:20:30- The photography and the general - aesthetics were so pretty.

0:20:30 > 0:20:34- I loved to leap into that world - for a short period of time.

0:20:35 > 0:20:37- When Dad went to Cannes...

0:20:37 > 0:20:40- ..I remember asking him - not to buy me a gift.

0:20:41 > 0:20:46- I asked him to go into the Chanel - boutique and bring back a catalogue.

0:20:49 > 0:20:53- A friend of mine moved to Hong Kong.

0:20:54 > 0:20:58- She decided to have a party - with a Chinese theme.

0:20:59 > 0:21:02- I went into town - to search for one of these.

0:21:02 > 0:21:06- I eventually found it, - after walking for miles.

0:21:06 > 0:21:09- It fitted me like a glove, - at the time.

0:21:09 > 0:21:11- I turned up to the party...

0:21:11 > 0:21:15- ..and I was the only person - who'd worn something Chinese.

0:21:15 > 0:21:18- Oh, no! Including your friend?

0:21:18 > 0:21:21- Yes! She was wearing a camisole.

0:21:21 > 0:21:23- I said, "That's not Chinese!"

0:21:23 > 0:21:26- "It was made in Hong Kong," - she replied!

0:21:34 > 0:21:37- I wanted a dress - made especially for me.

0:21:39 > 0:21:40- I knew what I wanted.

0:21:40 > 0:21:43- I scoured magazines for months.

0:21:44 > 0:21:48- A friend of my father's, who was - a wardrobe mistress, made my dress.

0:21:48 > 0:21:52- I'm very happy with the amount - of money I spent on it...

0:21:53 > 0:21:58- ..when I consider how much friends - of mine have spent on their dresses.

0:21:58 > 0:22:01- My wedding dress - cost a fraction of what theirs cost.

0:22:04 > 0:22:08- I wanted a classic, which I could - perhaps hand down to Gweni.

0:22:09 > 0:22:12- As I tell my husband, - if I had to sell it...

0:22:13 > 0:22:16- ..I'd get a good price for it - on eBay!

0:22:17 > 0:22:21- We went to Paris because I was - determined to go there.

0:22:21 > 0:22:25- We stopped off in Saint Germain and - I thought I'd buy a bottle of wine.

0:22:26 > 0:22:29- My plan was to get him tipsy, - then get him to spend money!

0:22:30 > 0:22:34- He told me to carry on shopping. - I didn't have to get him drunk!

0:22:40 > 0:22:42- I think Paris is my spiritual home.

0:22:43 > 0:22:48- I can't speak French so I'm - a dead loss when I'm over there.

0:22:48 > 0:22:50- I rely entirely on Hywel.

0:22:50 > 0:22:53- When I'm in Paris, I'm so relaxed.

0:22:54 > 0:22:58- I enjoy everything about - my surroundings when I'm there.

0:22:58 > 0:23:02- Watching the world go by when you're - in a cafe in Paris is wonderful.

0:23:07 > 0:23:08- I'm happy.

0:23:08 > 0:23:13- I spend too much money on clothes. - But doesn't every woman do that?

0:23:13 > 0:23:16- Every husband complains about it, - of course!

0:23:17 > 0:23:19- I'm happy - when I get something I want.

0:23:19 > 0:23:25- I love receiving shopping vouchers - on my birthday or at Christmas.

0:23:27 > 0:23:29- It brings - a beaming smile to my face.

0:23:46 > 0:23:49- S4C subtitles by Eirlys A Jones

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