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0:00:02 > 0:00:06- ..a rugby wife - who has said au revoir to Wales.
0:00:06 > 0:00:11- An artist and businesswoman who has - a smart, conservative wardrobe.
0:00:13 > 0:00:17- And two people who treasure - their Vivienne Westwood clothes.
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0:01:18 > 0:01:20- # FRENCH SONG #
0:01:32 > 0:01:33- Hello!
0:01:33 > 0:01:35- Hello!- - Hello! How are you?
0:01:35 > 0:01:37- Bonjour. Ca va?
0:01:37 > 0:01:38- Bonjour. Ca va?- - Oui, ca va!
0:01:38 > 0:01:40- Oh, that's nice!
0:01:40 > 0:01:42- Coffee and croissants.
0:01:42 > 0:01:46- It's lovely to have an excuse - to come to France.
0:01:46 > 0:01:48- Yes, we moved here in July.
0:01:48 > 0:01:51- You've been here - for around six months.
0:01:51 > 0:01:53- Yes, so I'm fluent in French!
0:01:53 > 0:01:54- Really?
0:01:54 > 0:01:56- Really?- - No!
0:01:56 > 0:01:57- It's a slow process.
0:01:58 > 0:02:01- The French have the reputation...
0:02:01 > 0:02:05- ..of being the most stylish people - in the world.
0:02:06 > 0:02:08- Are they stylish?
0:02:08 > 0:02:10- Do you spend - your afternoons shopping?
0:02:11 > 0:02:13- They are stylish.
0:02:13 > 0:02:17- I went to Bordeaux on Thursday - and people there looked nice.
0:02:17 > 0:02:20- A lot of women - wear black leggings...
0:02:22 > 0:02:25- ..with motorcycle boots - or riding boots.
0:02:25 > 0:02:29- I like the look but I can't - find boots to fit my little legs!
0:02:30 > 0:02:32- That's the problem. Nothing fits me.
0:02:32 > 0:02:34- The French have big legs!
0:02:34 > 0:02:38- Yes, the French have big legs - and it's a problem for me!
0:02:39 > 0:02:43- There are a few nice shops in Brive - but they're expensive.
0:02:43 > 0:02:45- Really expensive.
0:02:45 > 0:02:49- Aren't you happy about paying - a lot of money for clothes?
0:02:49 > 0:02:54- If it's good quality and I'll get a - lot of wear out of it, then fine...
0:02:54 > 0:02:58- ..but I usually go to Topshop - and buy lots of similar garments.
0:02:58 > 0:03:02- If I like something, - I'll wear it all the time.
0:03:02 > 0:03:07- Everyone's feeling the pinch - during this recession...
0:03:07 > 0:03:10- ..so it makes sense to do that.
0:03:10 > 0:03:11- Yes, I agree.
0:03:13 > 0:03:16- I like Coleen Rooney.
0:03:17 > 0:03:22- She buys Balenciaga bags - but she also goes to Topshop.
0:03:23 > 0:03:25- She combines the two styles.
0:04:16 > 0:04:20- What do you wear when you - watch your husband play rugby?
0:04:23 > 0:04:27- I never wore jeans - to international matches.
0:04:27 > 0:04:29- I wore leggings or a dress.
0:04:30 > 0:04:34- Kick-off time dictates what I wear - when I watch a Brive game.
0:04:34 > 0:04:38- If it's an afternoon kick-off, - I dress up a bit more...
0:04:38 > 0:04:41- ..because we go out afterwards.
0:04:41 > 0:04:46- I wear Diesels and Cats to evening - kick-offs because it's really cold.
0:04:46 > 0:04:52- I've started to pay a little bit - more for cashmere and leather...
0:04:52 > 0:04:54- ..because they do keep you warm.
0:04:55 > 0:05:00- Acrylic may look the same - but it doesn't do the same job.
0:05:42 > 0:05:45- Tell me about - your beautiful wedding dress.
0:05:46 > 0:05:49- I enjoyed wearing it - and I wear it all the time.
0:05:49 > 0:05:52- I wear it - to do the cleaning and the ironing.
0:05:53 > 0:05:55- You don't!
0:05:56 > 0:05:59- It's an expensive dress, - so why wear it only once?
0:06:00 > 0:06:02- I can see you're not making it up!
0:06:03 > 0:06:06- I've never seen - such a dirty wedding dress!
0:06:06 > 0:06:08- I think I must have fallen!
0:06:08 > 0:06:13- Alix's shirts - are on the wall in the dining room.
0:06:13 > 0:06:16- They're covered in mud and blood.
0:06:17 > 0:06:22- If you're going to keep something - for ever, keep the history too.
0:06:23 > 0:06:27- Footballers' wives and rugby - players' wives have high profiles.
0:06:27 > 0:06:30- Are you under pressure - to look smart?
0:06:30 > 0:06:32- Do you do photo shoots?
0:06:33 > 0:06:37- Yes, I've done - a lot of different photo shoots.
0:06:38 > 0:06:42- We had lots of opportunities like - that when Gwragedd Rygbi was on S4C.
0:06:44 > 0:06:48- I did one for Vibe - and one with Julian Castaldi.
0:06:49 > 0:06:51- I've done loads - for the Western Mail.
0:06:52 > 0:06:55- I am the face - of Talbot Green shopping centre.
0:06:56 > 0:06:59- I wore this - for the Julian Castaldi photo shoot.
0:07:00 > 0:07:02- It's ugly now - but I liked it at the time!
0:07:03 > 0:07:07- In Wales, because I was - in the newspapers quite a lot...
0:07:07 > 0:07:10- ..and there were - a few features online...
0:07:10 > 0:07:13- ..I felt - I should wear a bit of make-up.
0:07:13 > 0:07:17- Over here, nobody knows me so I'm - a real scruff when I go into town!
0:07:18 > 0:07:20- Is it nice being a part of a group?
0:07:21 > 0:07:25- Are you happy to be known - as a rugby player's wife?
0:07:25 > 0:07:26- Yes. That's what I am!
0:07:27 > 0:07:30- We're not WAGs, we're Scrummies!
0:07:31 > 0:07:32- That sounds better.
0:07:32 > 0:07:34- That sounds better.- - Yes, I'm a Scrummy Mummy!
0:07:35 > 0:07:36- It doesn't bother me.
0:07:38 > 0:07:43- When you go about your everyday life - do you wear more practical clothes?
0:07:46 > 0:07:47- Yes, very much so.
0:07:50 > 0:07:54- I bought those Diesel jeans in Leeds - when I first moved there.
0:07:55 > 0:07:57- I don't wear them any more.
0:07:58 > 0:08:00- They're a bit revealing!
0:08:00 > 0:08:02- You didn't buy them like this.
0:08:02 > 0:08:04- You wore them out?
0:08:04 > 0:08:07- Yes, I wore them - when I was pregnant with Holly.
0:08:08 > 0:08:12- They sit so low, I could wear them - right until the birth...
0:08:12 > 0:08:14- ..and as soon as I left hospital.
0:08:14 > 0:08:18- I wore them when I went - down the slide in the garden.
0:08:18 > 0:08:20- I don't wear them any more.
0:08:20 > 0:08:21- Not at all?
0:08:21 > 0:08:23- Not at all?- - No... well!
0:08:23 > 0:08:27- Are you sentimental about any items?
0:08:28 > 0:08:31- Yes, I wear - my grandmother's wedding ring.
0:08:31 > 0:08:33- I haven't taken it off.
0:08:33 > 0:08:37- I also have - two of my grandmother's necklaces.
0:08:38 > 0:08:41- Spin this - and it says Happy Birthday.
0:08:44 > 0:08:46- I don't know why she wore that.
0:08:46 > 0:08:48- Did she wear this always?
0:08:48 > 0:08:50- Did she wear this always?- - Yes, and this cross too.
0:08:51 > 0:08:55- They are the two items I asked - to keep when she passed away.
0:08:55 > 0:08:59- Holly will have one - and Isobel will have the other.
0:08:59 > 0:09:02- This is the first ring - Alix gave to me.
0:09:03 > 0:09:05- You're a softie, aren't you?
0:09:05 > 0:09:07- You're a softie, aren't you?- - A softie? Yes, I am!
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0:10:47 > 0:10:50- What sort of clothes - do you like, Kathy?
0:10:53 > 0:10:55- Comfort is my number one priority.
0:10:55 > 0:10:59- I tend to wear trousers - more than anything else.
0:10:59 > 0:11:02- I'm quite boring - when it comes to colour.
0:11:02 > 0:11:06- I go for a neutral palette - - blacks, browns and whites.
0:11:07 > 0:11:09- I like layers.
0:11:09 > 0:11:12- I love to wear clothes - in which I feel comfortable.
0:11:13 > 0:11:14- That's the main thing.
0:11:14 > 0:11:18- You run a clothes shop - but you're also an artist.
0:11:18 > 0:11:21- Yes, I'm an Artist/Publisher, - or so they tell me!
0:11:22 > 0:11:26- I went to college - and graduated in Illustration.
0:11:26 > 0:11:31- You may have seen my work on - Christmas cards and greeting cards.
0:11:31 > 0:11:33- I use very vibrant colours.
0:11:34 > 0:11:39- Pictures of flowers, blue crockery - and Gaudy Welsh ceramics.
0:11:39 > 0:11:43- I also sell prints - of my original paintings.
0:11:44 > 0:11:47- I seem to say this - about a lot of things...
0:11:47 > 0:11:49- ..but I fell into selling clothes.
0:11:50 > 0:11:53- It's a struggle - to make a living purely from art.
0:11:54 > 0:11:57- I like to wear sculptural clothes.
0:11:58 > 0:12:00- My clothes are a bit unusual.
0:12:00 > 0:12:04- I thought to myself, - "Why not put them in the gallery?"
0:12:04 > 0:12:08- I think they go well with - the goods I sell in the gallery.
0:12:08 > 0:12:10- That's how it started.
0:12:10 > 0:12:14- I sold a small selection - of Crea and Sarah Pacini designs.
0:12:15 > 0:12:17- Your artwork may be colourful...
0:12:17 > 0:12:21- ..but your clothes - are very neutral colours.
0:12:21 > 0:12:22- What's going on there?
0:12:23 > 0:12:27- Yes, curiously. - I'm not sure why it's the case.
0:12:27 > 0:12:30- My career as an artist - began 11 years ago.
0:12:30 > 0:12:33- I went through a divorce - at the same time.
0:12:33 > 0:12:36- The palette I used at that time - was white.
0:12:36 > 0:12:38- All the colour had gone.
0:12:38 > 0:12:42- As I regained - my confidence over the years...
0:12:42 > 0:12:43- ..the colour came back.
0:12:45 > 0:12:47- That isn't the case with my clothes.
0:12:47 > 0:12:52- I still use a very neutral palette - because it gives me confidence.
0:12:52 > 0:12:55- Confidence is very important.
0:13:12 > 0:13:14- Looking at your collection...
0:13:15 > 0:13:19- ..the contrasting element - in your clothes is remarkable.
0:13:19 > 0:13:23- Though the colours are neutral, - the shapes are very unusual.
0:13:23 > 0:13:26- Let's start - with the outfit on the end.
0:13:26 > 0:13:28- I'd wear this to go out.
0:13:28 > 0:13:30- It's quite formal evening wear.
0:13:32 > 0:13:34- Once again, I use layers.
0:13:36 > 0:13:38- I combine the old and the new.
0:13:39 > 0:13:40- I never throw things away.
0:13:41 > 0:13:44- I layer it over the skirt, - then I wear a jacket over it.
0:13:46 > 0:13:48- The belts are very important.
0:13:49 > 0:13:52- I wear two belts with this outfit.
0:13:52 > 0:13:55- I then finish it off - with jewellery.
0:13:56 > 0:13:58- Jewellery can transform an outfit.
0:13:58 > 0:14:01- Jewellery can transform an outfit.- - Yes. I'll show you an example.
0:14:01 > 0:14:02- I'd wear this every day.
0:14:03 > 0:14:05- It's a Crea dress.
0:14:05 > 0:14:09- If I take away the necklace, - you'll see it's very plain.
0:14:09 > 0:14:13- It's a long tunic, which I wear - over trousers or a skirt.
0:14:14 > 0:14:18- Once I add the necklace, - it's transformed.
0:14:19 > 0:14:21- That's nice! Is it a purse?
0:14:21 > 0:14:24- Yes, It's a small leather purse - from Turkey.
0:14:25 > 0:14:27- I never throw out anything.
0:14:27 > 0:14:31- I keep everything - and I blend the old and the new.
0:15:00 > 0:15:04- Where do you get the clothes - and what designers do you like?
0:15:07 > 0:15:11- The two designers I like best - are Crea and Sarah Pacini.
0:15:12 > 0:15:14- They combine beautifully.
0:15:14 > 0:15:18- Crea Concept is French - and Sarah Pacini is Italian.
0:15:18 > 0:15:22- They're casual clothes - but it depends on the accessories.
0:15:23 > 0:15:26- Wear them with flat boots - and they're casual.
0:15:26 > 0:15:31- Team them with high heels for - an evening out and the look changes.
0:15:34 > 0:15:39- This jewellery is very popular and - it's made by a company called Bjorg.
0:15:45 > 0:15:47- This is a summer dress.
0:15:47 > 0:15:49- Yes, and this is unusual for me.
0:15:49 > 0:15:52- This is quite a bright colour - for Kathy...
0:15:53 > 0:15:56- ..but it's nice to see - a little bit of colour come out.
0:15:57 > 0:15:58- Are these trousers?
0:15:58 > 0:16:00- Yes, my nappy pants!
0:16:01 > 0:16:04- They're different - but they're comfortable.
0:16:04 > 0:16:07- Is it hard to know - what your customers want?
0:16:07 > 0:16:10- How do you choose what to stock?
0:16:10 > 0:16:11- How do you choose what to stock?- - It isn't easy.
0:16:12 > 0:16:16- If I can wear it, I'll stock it. - It's as simple as that.
0:16:17 > 0:16:21- If I have the confidence to wear it, - so will other people.
0:16:21 > 0:16:26- You sell clothes you'd choose - to have in your private wardrobe?
0:16:26 > 0:16:27- Yes, and it isn't easy.
0:16:28 > 0:16:30- I've got it wrong many times...
0:16:31 > 0:16:34- ..but that's how you learn, - as you go along.
0:16:36 > 0:16:39- Do you go abroad - to source the clothes?
0:16:39 > 0:16:42- Do you have to go - to France and Italy?
0:16:42 > 0:16:46- I don't have to but I love to go - because I learn a lot from it.
0:16:47 > 0:16:49- I tend to go to see - the collections...
0:16:49 > 0:16:52- ..then buy through - an agent in Britain.
0:16:52 > 0:16:57- The sterling's fall against - the euro has made a difference.
0:16:57 > 0:17:00- May I take a look - at the bags and the shoes?
0:17:00 > 0:17:01- Yes.
0:17:04 > 0:17:06- There's a story behind the Gucci.
0:17:07 > 0:17:11- I had a chance to exhibit my work - in California.
0:17:11 > 0:17:16- I had an afternoon off and - my friend and I went to Rodeo Drive.
0:17:16 > 0:17:17- Oh, Beverly Hills!
0:17:17 > 0:17:19- I wanted to be Julia Roberts!
0:17:20 > 0:17:23- We had a few cocktails - at the Beverly Wilshire.
0:17:23 > 0:17:28- We possibly had one too many - before we hit Rodeo Drive!
0:17:29 > 0:17:31- I found myself in the Gucci shop.
0:17:32 > 0:17:35- Spending is less painful - after a few cocktails!
0:17:35 > 0:17:37- It was great, at the time.
0:17:37 > 0:17:39- Never mind, I've worn it a lot.
0:17:40 > 0:17:41- It's a classic.
0:17:42 > 0:17:45- There's another bag next to it.
0:17:45 > 0:17:47- This isn't a fake, is it?
0:17:47 > 0:17:49- This isn't a fake, is it?- - No, it's a real Louis Vuitton.
0:17:50 > 0:17:55- I bought it when my sister was - filming with Sean Connery in Prague.
0:17:55 > 0:17:58- I joined Paula, my sister, - for a week.
0:17:58 > 0:18:02- I had too much wine during lunch - and I bought that bag!
0:18:02 > 0:18:05- When you buy them abroad, - outside Europe...
0:18:05 > 0:18:08- ..you get the tax back - at the airport.
0:18:08 > 0:18:11- It's quite sneaky - and that's what I did.
0:18:11 > 0:18:13- It's a great excuse!
0:18:14 > 0:18:15- Did you meet Sean Connery?
0:18:16 > 0:18:18- Yes, I shook his hand.
0:18:18 > 0:18:20- Didn't he say - that he liked your bag?
0:18:21 > 0:18:22- No, he didn't.
0:18:57 > 0:19:01- Her fashion is global - and it appeals to many people.
0:19:02 > 0:19:06- It's all about buying - a totally unique item of clothing.
0:19:08 > 0:19:12- You become a part - of Vivienne Westwood's imagination.
0:19:13 > 0:19:16- It's the feeling that, - on your wedding day...
0:19:16 > 0:19:21- ..you're wearing the - most amazing dress you'll ever wear.
0:19:21 > 0:19:23- It was wonderful.
0:19:26 > 0:19:31- Vivienne Westwood is one of the - most famous designers in Britain.
0:19:31 > 0:19:33- Her designs are striking.
0:19:33 > 0:19:36- She made her name - in the 1970s punk era...
0:19:36 > 0:19:40- ..with her use of chains, - tartan and rips.
0:19:40 > 0:19:45- Her witty, sumptuous designs - are prominent in the fashion world.
0:19:45 > 0:19:50- Thousands of people treasure - their Vivienne Westwood garments.
0:19:50 > 0:19:54- Rhodri, you own - two Vivienne Westwood pieces.
0:19:54 > 0:19:58- What makes them so special, - starting with the jacket?
0:19:58 > 0:20:01- It was my long-standing ambition...
0:20:02 > 0:20:05- ..to own a Vivienne Westwood piece, - any sort of garment.
0:20:05 > 0:20:08- I saw this jacket - in a shop in Cowbridge.
0:20:09 > 0:20:11- It was my size.
0:20:11 > 0:20:15- It screamed, "Buy me!" - So I thought, "Alright - go for it!"
0:20:15 > 0:20:18- I think - it's a very shrewd investment.
0:20:18 > 0:20:21- I've worn it - almost every day since then.
0:20:21 > 0:20:25- The jacket has become an old friend.
0:20:25 > 0:20:27- It fits me really well.
0:20:27 > 0:20:29- It isn't too zany.
0:20:29 > 0:20:34- It's a Vivienne Westwood - but it's quite conservative.
0:20:35 > 0:20:38- It's the same story - with these trousers.
0:20:38 > 0:20:41- I needed something - to wear with my jacket!
0:20:42 > 0:20:46- I saw these trousers - and thought they were quite quirky.
0:20:46 > 0:20:51- It's a pinstripe fabric but - with lines going off at tangents.
0:20:51 > 0:20:52- That suits me.
0:20:53 > 0:20:57- I love my work but I'm sometimes - off the wall in the things I do.
0:20:59 > 0:21:01- That's how she's been so successful.
0:21:02 > 0:21:05- She combines the traditional - with the rebel.
0:21:05 > 0:21:07- Is that part of your character?
0:21:08 > 0:21:09- Yes, most definitely.
0:21:09 > 0:21:13- Vivienne Westwood's - self-confidence appeals to me.
0:21:13 > 0:21:18- She uses her clothes to express - another element of her character.
0:21:18 > 0:21:21- It doesn't - detract from her character.
0:21:21 > 0:21:23- It suits her character.
0:21:23 > 0:21:28- When I wear her clothes, - it gives me confidence to know...
0:21:28 > 0:21:33- ..I'm wearing a classic design - which in itself is a work of art.
0:21:33 > 0:21:34- You're a businessman.
0:21:35 > 0:21:37- You run a communications company.
0:21:37 > 0:21:42- You see how well Vivienne Westwood - has marketed herself...
0:21:42 > 0:21:44- ..and evolved over the years.
0:21:44 > 0:21:46- Yes. She's unique.
0:21:46 > 0:21:52- I admire the way she's developed - her business into a global brand.
0:22:03 > 0:22:08- Lisa, you got married in this - amazing Vivienne Westwood dress.
0:22:08 > 0:22:10- Yes, and I can hardly believe it!
0:22:10 > 0:22:15- Did you choose this dress because it - was designed by Vivienne Westwood?
0:22:15 > 0:22:19- I hadn't planned to buy a dress - by Vivienne Westwood.
0:22:19 > 0:22:21- I didn't know what I wanted.
0:22:22 > 0:22:24- I wasn't sure what would suit me.
0:22:24 > 0:22:29- You want to look as fantastic - as possible on your wedding day.
0:22:29 > 0:22:31- I looked at all sorts of styles.
0:22:32 > 0:22:35- I'd always wanted to try - a Vivienne Westwood dress...
0:22:36 > 0:22:38- ..even if I didn't actually buy it.
0:22:39 > 0:22:42- I went to the shop - and I tried a few dresses.
0:22:42 > 0:22:45- I was then - given this combination to try.
0:22:45 > 0:22:48- I looked over - at my mother and Midge.
0:22:49 > 0:22:52- They said, "You look fantastic!"
0:22:52 > 0:22:54- "You've got to have it!"
0:22:54 > 0:22:56- The rest is history.
0:22:57 > 0:22:59- It's a Mae West skirt.
0:22:59 > 0:23:03- It's a fishtail design - which is longer at the back.
0:23:04 > 0:23:06- There's a corset.
0:23:06 > 0:23:11- It's quite tight but it's wonderful.
0:23:11 > 0:23:14- It squeezes you - in all the right places!
0:23:14 > 0:23:19- The jacket - ties with a bow at the front.
0:23:19 > 0:23:22- That's what made the outfit for me.
0:23:22 > 0:23:27- The jacket frames the whole outfit.
0:23:27 > 0:23:29- I can see a tiny bow in here.
0:23:29 > 0:23:31- It's a blue bow.
0:23:33 > 0:23:37- Yes, and I didn't know - about that until the last minute.
0:23:38 > 0:23:40- It's such a lovely little touch.
0:23:40 > 0:23:43- Vivienne Westwood is interesting.
0:23:44 > 0:23:48- She's an interesting person but - I don't agree with all she says...
0:23:49 > 0:23:53- ..and I don't necessarily - like everything she's designed.
0:23:57 > 0:24:00- This dress made me - fall in love with her work.
0:24:01 > 0:24:04- It made me - fall in love with her clothes.
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