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0:00:01 > 0:00:02- Welcome to Codi Pac.
0:00:02 > 0:00:05- I, Geraint Hardy, will be travelling - all around Wales...
0:00:06 > 0:00:07- ..to find some of our treasures.
0:00:08 > 0:00:11- If you want a weekend away, - you needn't travel far.
0:00:11 > 0:00:13- It's all on the doorstep.
0:00:13 > 0:00:16- Places to eat, places to stay, - things to do and see.
0:00:17 > 0:00:19- They're all here on Codi Pac.
0:00:26 > 0:00:29- I need a few things - for this journey. They're all here.
0:00:29 > 0:00:33- I have a notebook, pamphlets, - an orange camera...
0:00:33 > 0:00:37- ..a mobile phone, water, bag - and a car.
0:00:37 > 0:00:41- I don't need my passport - because I'm staying in Wales.
0:00:42 > 0:00:46- Wales may be small but - there's plenty to do and see here.
0:00:46 > 0:00:48- Over the next six programmes...
0:00:48 > 0:00:51- ..I'll be visiting - six different locations.
0:00:51 > 0:00:55- From Wrexham to Machynlleth, - from Beaumaris to Merthyr Tydfil.
0:00:56 > 0:01:00- I'll be looking at places to stay - and places to eat.
0:01:00 > 0:01:04- I'll find out a little local - history and try out some activities.
0:01:05 > 0:01:09- From the exciting to the relaxed, - there'll be something for everyone.
0:01:13 > 0:01:15- For help - following the programme...
0:01:15 > 0:01:18- ..head to the website - or search for the Dal Ati app.
0:01:19 > 0:01:23- Several things spring to mind - when I think of Wrexham.
0:01:23 > 0:01:26- Beer, industrial history...
0:01:26 > 0:01:30- ..and as I'm a big football fan, - Wrexham football club.
0:01:30 > 0:01:34- Where better to start my journey - than with the Dragons?
0:01:35 > 0:01:39- Wrexham's ground - is called the Racecourse.
0:01:39 > 0:01:43- It's no ordinary club, - it was established in 1864...
0:01:43 > 0:01:48- ..a year after the - Football Association first met...
0:01:48 > 0:01:51- ..to write the rules of the game.
0:01:51 > 0:01:56- Wrexham is the oldest club in Wales - and the third oldest in the world.
0:01:57 > 0:02:00- I'm meeting Spencer Harris, - the club's director.
0:02:00 > 0:02:05- Spencer won the Welsh Learner - of the Year competition in 2001.
0:02:06 > 0:02:10- Spencer, we're here at what must be - one of your favourite places.
0:02:10 > 0:02:13- You're a huge fan of Wrexham AFC.
0:02:13 > 0:02:16- I remember sitting behind the goal - over there.
0:02:16 > 0:02:20- I remember watching games - against Swansea.
0:02:20 > 0:02:23- I was a little lad. - The crowd was massive.
0:02:24 > 0:02:27- At the time, we were - in what is now the Championship.
0:02:28 > 0:02:30- It was a great time for the club.
0:02:31 > 0:02:33- What are Wrexham's aims now?
0:02:33 > 0:02:38- Wrexham are trying to win promotion - back to the football league.
0:02:38 > 0:02:40- That's the club's main aim.
0:02:40 > 0:02:43- Hopefully, we'll do that next year.
0:02:43 > 0:02:45- The fans own this club - at the moment.
0:02:45 > 0:02:49- Yes, 4,000 of us own the club.
0:02:49 > 0:02:54- The fans took over the ownership - in 2011.
0:02:54 > 0:02:58- Since then, the club's - done fantastic off the pitch.
0:02:58 > 0:03:01- We've been to Wembley three times.
0:03:01 > 0:03:03- They were our first visits too.
0:03:04 > 0:03:08- We've just missed out on promotion - twice as well.
0:03:09 > 0:03:12- I hope that will come next year.
0:03:12 > 0:03:15- Do you have meetings - with all 4,000 of you?!
0:03:16 > 0:03:19- Almost every week - when we have away games!
0:03:20 > 0:03:25- There are elections to appoint - people to various positions...
0:03:25 > 0:03:28- ..to run the club - on behalf of the fans.
0:03:28 > 0:03:31- A lot of famous people - have played for the club.
0:03:31 > 0:03:37- Yes, players like Joey Jones, who - won the European Cup with Liverpool.
0:03:37 > 0:03:41- He still coaches here today.
0:03:41 > 0:03:44- Ian Rush has played for Wrexham too.
0:03:44 > 0:03:47- He didn't score many goals - for Wrexham!
0:03:47 > 0:03:48- No.
0:03:48 > 0:03:49- No.- - Unfortunately.
0:03:50 > 0:03:52- The stadium is in the town centre.
0:03:52 > 0:03:56- How important - is the club to the town?
0:03:56 > 0:03:59- The club's important to the town - and to North Wales.
0:04:00 > 0:04:04- It's where the largest crowd - gathers every fortnight...
0:04:04 > 0:04:07- ..to support the professional club - in North Wales.
0:04:07 > 0:04:12- There are larger towns than Wrexham - around the country...
0:04:12 > 0:04:14- ..which no-one talks about.
0:04:14 > 0:04:20- Wrexham FC is what puts us on the - map in Britain and across the world.
0:04:25 > 0:04:27- Here's the big moment.
0:04:27 > 0:04:30- Hardy's ready to go.
0:04:35 > 0:04:36- Superb!
0:04:51 > 0:04:54- That's enough messing about - on the football field.
0:04:55 > 0:04:58- It's now time to find out - what else Wrexham has to offer.
0:04:58 > 0:05:01- I'm going to have a wander - around town.
0:05:05 > 0:05:08- Wrexham is the main town - in North Wales...
0:05:08 > 0:05:11- ..with a population - of around 60,000.
0:05:13 > 0:05:16- The history of the town - dates back 8,000 years.
0:05:17 > 0:05:19- It's a market town.
0:05:22 > 0:05:24- Wrexham is a Saxon name.
0:05:24 > 0:05:28- It comes from "Wryhtel's Ham" - - the farm of a man called Wryhtel.
0:05:31 > 0:05:34- It's been a worthwhile walk - around town.
0:05:34 > 0:05:38- There are plenty of lovely little - streets and interesting buildings.
0:05:41 > 0:05:46- This church, St Giles, - can be seen throughout the town.
0:05:48 > 0:05:53- The St Giles church tower is one - of the seven wonders of Wales.
0:05:53 > 0:05:55- It's an incredible building.
0:05:59 > 0:06:02- The town's pubs - are worth seeing too.
0:06:02 > 0:06:07- I've heard about a local bank that's - been turned into a restaurant.
0:06:08 > 0:06:11- Here it is - The Bank. - It's lunchtime.
0:06:15 > 0:06:20- This bank was built by a - family of merchants from Liverpool.
0:06:21 > 0:06:24- A similarly-designed building - is in Liverpool too.
0:06:25 > 0:06:28- In the cellar, - the old safe still stands.
0:06:29 > 0:06:33- It's hard to believe that the door - weighs two and a half tons.
0:06:38 > 0:06:42- This place is packed - and it's easy to see why.
0:06:42 > 0:06:47- It's so posh with its incredible bar - and amazing staircase.
0:06:48 > 0:06:49- It's also homely.
0:06:50 > 0:06:53- I just hope that the bank's - paying for the food!
0:06:56 > 0:07:00- You can't beat home-made lasagne, - garlic bread and salad.
0:07:01 > 0:07:03- It's time to tuck in.
0:07:07 > 0:07:11- As you'd expect, there's - a wide choice of places to stay.
0:07:12 > 0:07:17- The Lemon Tree hotel and restaurant - has 12 comfortable rooms.
0:07:19 > 0:07:22- If you want to stay - in a luxury house...
0:07:22 > 0:07:25- ..which combines - the modern and the traditional...
0:07:26 > 0:07:29- ..go to the Old Vicarage Cottage - in Minera.
0:07:29 > 0:07:33- For more information, - visit the website.
0:07:36 > 0:07:40- I, on the other hand, - am staying in a different place...
0:07:40 > 0:07:44- ..in a field - on the outskirts of Minera.
0:07:45 > 0:07:50- This is where I'll be staying - tonight - a shepherd's hut.
0:07:50 > 0:07:53- The decor is modern and neat.
0:07:54 > 0:07:58- This is great - original wheels.
0:07:58 > 0:08:01- Look at the view - - I'm in the middle of nowhere.
0:08:01 > 0:08:06- There are animals in the nearby - fields. There's no-one else around.
0:08:06 > 0:08:08- I'm excited, that's for sure.
0:08:08 > 0:08:10- Let's open the door.
0:08:15 > 0:08:16- Here it is - wow!
0:08:16 > 0:08:19- It's small but it's very cosy.
0:08:20 > 0:08:23- There's a kitchen - and a table which opens out...
0:08:23 > 0:08:25- ..which makes use of the space.
0:08:25 > 0:08:28- This is the sofa - which turns into a bed.
0:08:28 > 0:08:30- It slides out.
0:08:30 > 0:08:33- I can't wait - to curl up in this bed tonight...
0:08:33 > 0:08:35- ..in front of that great fire - over there.
0:09:03 > 0:09:05- It's been a busy day.
0:09:06 > 0:09:10- I've walked the streets of Wrexham - and been in the football stadium.
0:09:10 > 0:09:14- In this rural retreat, I can't wait - for a night in front of the fire.
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0:09:36 > 0:09:40- Welcome back to Codi Pac - from a shepherd's hut near Wrexham.
0:09:44 > 0:09:47- After a good night's sleep, - I wander to the farmyard.
0:09:59 > 0:10:01- Good morning.
0:10:01 > 0:10:03- If you choose to stay here...
0:10:03 > 0:10:07- ..there's plenty of local produce - to prepare a breakfast feast.
0:10:08 > 0:10:10- You can collect your own eggs - if you fancy.
0:10:11 > 0:10:14- This breakfast is for me, - not you, OK?
0:10:14 > 0:10:15- OK? He's coming.
0:10:16 > 0:10:17- Behave.
0:10:30 > 0:10:34- On day two, I get to wander around - the streets of Wrexham once more.
0:10:35 > 0:10:38- I'm on my way to Saith Seren...
0:10:38 > 0:10:42- ..an old pub that also promotes - the Welsh language.
0:10:46 > 0:10:49- Here we are, - the Saith Seren community pub.
0:10:50 > 0:10:53- People come here to speak Welsh too.
0:10:53 > 0:10:56- There's a pool table here, - which is good news.
0:10:56 > 0:10:57- It's spacious.
0:10:58 > 0:11:00- On the walls - are many familiar faces...
0:11:00 > 0:11:03- ..from Gareth Bale - to Richard Burton.
0:11:03 > 0:11:06- It's also the perfect place - to see some live music.
0:11:07 > 0:11:12- I'm meeting poet Sophie McKeand - to learn more about the place.
0:11:12 > 0:11:13- Two, three.
0:11:17 > 0:11:19- Sophie, we're in Saith Seren.
0:11:20 > 0:11:23- Why is Saith Seren - important to Wrexham?
0:11:24 > 0:11:28- There are many Welsh speakers here.
0:11:29 > 0:11:32- They support the language.
0:11:32 > 0:11:35- It's a lovely place to come...
0:11:35 > 0:11:40- ..to have a chat in Welsh - over a pint or a cuppa.
0:11:41 > 0:11:45- It's nice just to come here - and practise speaking Welsh...
0:11:45 > 0:11:50- ..without feeling awkward...
0:11:50 > 0:11:52- ..you know?
0:11:52 > 0:11:56- It's nice just to relax, - have a chat.
0:11:57 > 0:12:02- There's lots of music and poetry - here.
0:12:02 > 0:12:03- You've learnt Welsh.
0:12:04 > 0:12:06- Do you come from Wrexham?
0:12:06 > 0:12:09- I was born in Flint - but was raised in Chester...
0:12:10 > 0:12:13- ..so I didn't speak Welsh - as a child.
0:12:13 > 0:12:17- So why did you decide - to learn Welsh?
0:12:17 > 0:12:22- I'm a poet, so I love languages.
0:12:23 > 0:12:28- The Welsh language - is beautiful and very interesting.
0:12:31 > 0:12:36- I was born here - so I should learn the language.
0:12:36 > 0:12:39- You're a poet. That's your job.
0:12:39 > 0:12:42- You have a special title too, - a very nice one.
0:12:43 > 0:12:46- Yes, the Young People's Laureate - for Wales.
0:12:46 > 0:12:52- If you had to describe Wrexham - in a few words, what would they be?
0:12:52 > 0:12:57- I'd choose complex and passionate.
0:12:57 > 0:12:58- Passionate.
0:12:59 > 0:13:00- Yes.
0:13:18 > 0:13:21- Sometimes, it's important - to rest for five minutes...
0:13:22 > 0:13:25- ..in a place like this - that's full of local characters...
0:13:26 > 0:13:28- ..and, of course, sweet things!
0:13:48 > 0:13:51- I'm now going - to The Fat Boar restaurant.
0:13:53 > 0:13:56- Lovely - is the word that springs to mind.
0:13:56 > 0:13:58- This is spacious.
0:13:58 > 0:14:02- I love the black and white - on the bar and on the floor.
0:14:02 > 0:14:06- There are old and new chairs - which fill the space...
0:14:06 > 0:14:10- ..and there's space outside - to have a drink or some food.
0:14:10 > 0:14:14- Upstairs, however, is a restaurant - with a different ambience.
0:14:16 > 0:14:19- A number of the workers here - speak Welsh.
0:14:19 > 0:14:22- The owners - use local and seasonal produce.
0:14:25 > 0:14:28- We're now upstairs - in the restaurant.
0:14:29 > 0:14:30- You can sit outside.
0:14:30 > 0:14:34- There are many parts - to the restaurant.
0:14:34 > 0:14:38- This is the modern part - with plenty of natural light...
0:14:39 > 0:14:41- ..and bright colours on the walls.
0:14:42 > 0:14:45- In here, things change.
0:14:45 > 0:14:47- Industrial orange bricks...
0:14:47 > 0:14:52- ..and then wooden panels - with lots of plants...
0:14:52 > 0:14:55- ..which creates - an outdoors-indoors feel.
0:15:03 > 0:15:06- Wow! Look at this. Quite a dish.
0:15:06 > 0:15:09- This place is called The Fat Boar.
0:15:10 > 0:15:14- After I eat this, there'll only be - one fat boar in this building.
0:15:22 > 0:15:27- After eating my fill, I'm off - to find the old police station.
0:15:28 > 0:15:31- It's been converted into a museum.
0:15:32 > 0:15:35- I'm going to meet local historian - Gareth Vaughan Williams there.
0:15:36 > 0:15:38- Gareth, - we're outside Wrexham museum.
0:15:38 > 0:15:40- It's a lovely building.
0:15:40 > 0:15:45- You've lived here for many years. - What's Wrexham like?
0:15:45 > 0:15:48- It's a very busy town.
0:15:48 > 0:15:52- It's been busy for centuries.
0:15:53 > 0:15:57- It's a border town, so people - have been coming here for centuries.
0:15:58 > 0:16:01- It's on the border - between Wales and England.
0:16:01 > 0:16:05- It's on the border between - the Welsh language and English...
0:16:05 > 0:16:08- ..between - the highlands and lowlands...
0:16:08 > 0:16:11- ..and between industry - and agriculture.
0:16:11 > 0:16:14- There are two cultures here.
0:16:14 > 0:16:17- That's still evident in the town.
0:16:17 > 0:16:20- At one time, - it was very industrialized.
0:16:20 > 0:16:25- Yes, but one shouldn't just think of - Wrexham as an industrialized area.
0:16:26 > 0:16:28- It was a market - and agricultural town...
0:16:29 > 0:16:31- ..before it was an industrial town.
0:16:52 > 0:16:56- The museum tries to show the history - of the area from the Early Ages.
0:16:57 > 0:17:01- This is one of the earliest things - they've discovered.
0:17:01 > 0:17:07- An ancient coffin, a cist, - was found in 1958.
0:17:07 > 0:17:10- Inside the cist was a skeleton...
0:17:10 > 0:17:14- ..which dates back - 2,000 years before Christ.
0:17:14 > 0:17:17- They were known - as the Beaker people.
0:17:17 > 0:17:21- Their remains - would be buried in a cist.
0:17:21 > 0:17:23- They were special people.
0:17:23 > 0:17:28- They'd travel far - and they knew how to treat iron.
0:17:28 > 0:17:32- The height of Brymbo Man - has been worked out.
0:17:32 > 0:17:35- He was around 5' 8".
0:17:35 > 0:17:37- Taller than me!
0:17:37 > 0:17:43- He'd also received - a nasty head injury.
0:17:43 > 0:17:46- The fact that he was discovered...
0:17:47 > 0:17:50- ..has provided a lot of information - about the area.
0:17:51 > 0:17:56- It takes us back - much further than the Romans.
0:18:10 > 0:18:15- Gareth, one of my favourite things - in the world is football.
0:18:15 > 0:18:17- What do we have here?
0:18:17 > 0:18:22- It's an exhibition, not just of the - Racecourse but of football in Wales.
0:18:22 > 0:18:25- People from the area - who've played for Wales.
0:18:26 > 0:18:28- That's Billy Meredith's cap.
0:18:28 > 0:18:32- He was one of the first men to - play for Wales. He came from Chirk.
0:18:32 > 0:18:38- There are shirts and caps belonging - to some Welsh heroes from the area.
0:18:38 > 0:18:40- People like Ian Rush.
0:18:41 > 0:18:44- You notice the difference in boots.
0:18:44 > 0:18:48- It's hard to believe how much - the shirt and boots have changed...
0:18:49 > 0:18:50- ..even the ball itself.
0:18:50 > 0:18:54- I remember wearing boots - similar to those...
0:18:54 > 0:18:56- ..when I started playing football.
0:19:06 > 0:19:09- It's been a pleasure - talking to you today.
0:19:09 > 0:19:14- I've walked around town. I'm now - going to walk the Clywedog Trail.
0:19:14 > 0:19:16- What am I going to see?
0:19:16 > 0:19:18- It's a lovely walk.
0:19:18 > 0:19:20- It starts in Minera.
0:19:20 > 0:19:24- You follow the area's - industrial past.
0:19:25 > 0:19:27- There was a lead mine in Minera.
0:19:28 > 0:19:32- Lead mining might be one reason - why the Romans came to the area.
0:19:32 > 0:19:36- You'll also see many mills - on your journey...
0:19:36 > 0:19:39- ..which shows how important - water used to be.
0:19:40 > 0:19:43- Though the River Clywedog - is small...
0:19:43 > 0:19:47- ..it's very important - in the running of the water wheels.
0:19:48 > 0:19:51- It's a beautiful walk.
0:20:10 > 0:20:14- The Clywedog Trail is a great way - of enjoying the outdoors...
0:20:14 > 0:20:18- ..while learning more - about Wrexham's industrial past.
0:20:24 > 0:20:27- You don't have to walk - the nine miles in one go.
0:20:27 > 0:20:30- You could do it in stages.
0:20:30 > 0:20:35- But it's worth ending up in - the lovely Erddig house and gardens.
0:20:40 > 0:20:44- The Yorke family owned the place - until 1973...
0:20:44 > 0:20:47- ..when it was given - to the National Trust.
0:20:48 > 0:20:50- It's an inspirational place.
0:20:58 > 0:20:59- Gareth was right.
0:21:00 > 0:21:04- The Clywedog Trail is worth doing - to see the industrial remains.
0:21:04 > 0:21:08- Next, I'm going to - a world famous historical site.
0:21:24 > 0:21:28- A handful of people have told me - I have to visit Pontcysyllte...
0:21:28 > 0:21:30- ..an aqueduct.
0:21:30 > 0:21:35- It was built by Thomas Telford, and - I'm told it's a challenge to cross.
0:21:36 > 0:21:40- Looking around, I'm not sure why - as it's so tranquil.
0:21:53 > 0:21:57- Now that I'm standing - on Pontcysyllte, I understand.
0:21:57 > 0:21:59- It's extremely high.
0:21:59 > 0:22:03- I'm safe enough but if I was - on a boat and fell that way...
0:22:03 > 0:22:05- ..I wouldn't be safe.
0:22:05 > 0:22:07- Off you go.
0:22:16 > 0:22:18- There are some lovely views here.
0:22:18 > 0:22:21- You can see fields...
0:22:21 > 0:22:25- ..and a pretty bridge - which shows how high up we are.
0:22:26 > 0:22:28- We've not reached the middle yet.
0:22:29 > 0:22:30- Let's go.
0:22:40 > 0:22:43- We're now halfway along - Pontcysyllte.
0:22:44 > 0:22:47- What an incredible view!
0:22:47 > 0:22:50- We're high up, that much is certain.
0:22:50 > 0:22:54- I'm not sure how high, - but, wow, it's high.
0:22:54 > 0:22:55- Very high.
0:22:55 > 0:22:57- Look at the view.
0:22:57 > 0:23:01- I feel like I'm standing - in the centre of the world...
0:23:01 > 0:23:02- ..with no-one near me.
0:23:03 > 0:23:04- Superb.
0:23:11 > 0:23:14- I've had a great time in Wrexham.
0:23:14 > 0:23:16- What an interesting place.
0:23:16 > 0:23:20- It started on a football pitch - and it's ending above one.
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0:23:58 > 0:23:59- Hello. I'm Daniel Glyn.
0:24:00 > 0:24:03- I'm a stand-up comedian and - I write jokes and children's books.
0:24:04 > 0:24:08- I presented kids' TV - when I was slimmer.
0:24:08 > 0:24:12- I've also interviewed - people like Rhys Ifans.
0:24:12 > 0:24:13- That's me - Daniel Glyn.
0:24:15 > 0:24:18- I'm Matthew Glyn Jones, - Dan's brother.
0:24:18 > 0:24:22- I'm an author and I write dramas - such as Gwaith Cartref...
0:24:23 > 0:24:27- ..and children's programmes - like Hotel Eddie.
0:24:27 > 0:24:31- A long time ago, - I was in a band called Hanner Pei.
0:24:32 > 0:24:34- We specialized in funk.
0:24:40 > 0:24:45- What brings us here, - to Clwb Ifor Bach, Dan and Math?
0:24:46 > 0:24:49- Growing up in Cardiff - as a Welsh speaker...
0:24:49 > 0:24:52- ..you congregated - in different centres.
0:24:53 > 0:24:56- There was the Urdd centre, - on Conway Road...
0:24:56 > 0:25:01- ..and Clwb Ifor Bach, - which was a super-duper Welsh place.
0:25:01 > 0:25:03- Everyone spoke Welsh in here.
0:25:03 > 0:25:05- It was members only...
0:25:06 > 0:25:09- ..but if you spoke Welsh, - they'd let you in.
0:25:10 > 0:25:14- At the end of the night, - everyone sang the national anthem.
0:25:14 > 0:25:16- Manic Street Preachers played here.
0:25:16 > 0:25:17- Manic Street Preachers played here.- - No, they didn't.
0:25:18 > 0:25:21- The line-up - was Manic Street Preachers...
0:25:21 > 0:25:25- ..Tynal Tywyll, - one other band and Hanner Pei.
0:25:25 > 0:25:27- The Manics didn't turn up.
0:25:27 > 0:25:29- The Manics didn't turn up.- - Really?
0:25:29 > 0:25:32- They didn't like seeing Hanner Pei - on the bill.
0:25:32 > 0:25:34- Can you imagine it?
0:25:34 > 0:25:35- Can you imagine it?- - Where are they now?
0:25:38 > 0:25:42- Cardiff played an important role - in your childhood.
0:25:43 > 0:25:49- Dan, you still live in Cardiff - and you haven't wandered far, Math.
0:25:49 > 0:25:52- Your roots - are very much in Cardiff...
0:25:52 > 0:25:55- ..and you haven't - moved far from here.
0:25:55 > 0:26:01- I've never lived - more than five miles from Cardiff.
0:26:01 > 0:26:05- Dan has lived - in several different countries...
0:26:05 > 0:26:07- ..and in many different places...
0:26:07 > 0:26:10- ..but you've always - come back home, to Cardiff.
0:26:10 > 0:26:15- The nice thing about Cardiff, - as you know and many people know...
0:26:15 > 0:26:20- ..is that it's small enough that - if you're a native or a newcomer...
0:26:20 > 0:26:24- ..you feel - some sort of ownership over it.
0:26:24 > 0:26:27- It's a great place - to raise children.
0:26:27 > 0:26:28- We're fathers.
0:26:28 > 0:26:30- Not together - we have wives!
0:26:31 > 0:26:33- It's a great place to raise kids.
0:26:34 > 0:26:35- Dan, you're the eldest.
0:26:35 > 0:26:37- Dan, you're the eldest.- - Yes, by three years.
0:26:37 > 0:26:39- Three and a half years!
0:26:39 > 0:26:42- You must have some funny stories - about growing up.
0:26:43 > 0:26:46- Yes. I bullied Math mercilessly.
0:26:47 > 0:26:48- I loved Lego.
0:26:49 > 0:26:55- I'd spend hours on end - building amazing spaceships.
0:26:55 > 0:26:57- There would be bits - that opened out.
0:26:58 > 0:27:02- They were amazing and I'd want Dan - to see how brilliant they were.
0:27:02 > 0:27:06- I showed my Lego creation to Dan - and he said it was great...
0:27:07 > 0:27:10- ..before standing - at the top of the stairs...
0:27:10 > 0:27:13- ..asking me if it flew - and throwing it down!
0:27:13 > 0:27:15- It was smashed to pieces.
0:27:16 > 0:27:22- You've played a lot of tricks - on each other over the years...
0:27:22 > 0:27:24- ..but you're really close.
0:27:25 > 0:27:30- Our mother died really young.
0:27:30 > 0:27:31- She was only 46.
0:27:32 > 0:27:34- Math was only 16.
0:27:34 > 0:27:39- That dynamic of big brother, little - brother and the bullying changed.
0:27:39 > 0:27:43- When something sad happens, - there's always a ray of light...
0:27:44 > 0:27:47- ..which in this case - was that we became closer.
0:27:47 > 0:27:50- Yes, and our father died - a couple of years later.
0:27:51 > 0:27:53- That's all the family we had...
0:27:54 > 0:27:57- ..and it was important - for us to stick together.
0:27:58 > 0:27:59- We had no choice.
0:28:00 > 0:28:03- We bonded over computer games.
0:28:03 > 0:28:04- We bonded over computer games.- - Yes, from a young age.
0:28:04 > 0:28:09- I got a ZX81 with 1K of memory - when I was eight.
0:28:10 > 0:28:12- Then the consoles came out.
0:28:12 > 0:28:17- Luckily, we got a job writing and - being part of the production team...
0:28:17 > 0:28:19- And acting and presenting!
0:28:19 > 0:28:22- ..a computer game review show - called Mega.
0:28:23 > 0:28:28- It was the best job ever and we were - on 400 a week for three months...
0:28:28 > 0:28:33- ..and all we did was play computer - games and write reviews of them.
0:28:37 > 0:28:38- I'm Bill.
0:28:38 > 0:28:40- I'm Bill.- - And I'm Dill. Hello!
0:28:40 > 0:28:44- Once again, developments - from the revolutionary world...
0:28:44 > 0:28:46- ..come from us to you.
0:28:46 > 0:28:49- Scientists - using the latest technology...
0:28:49 > 0:28:51- ..can grow ears.
0:28:51 > 0:28:53- Pardon?
0:28:53 > 0:28:54- Pardon?- - Ha, ha!
0:28:54 > 0:29:00- Then we made a conscious decision - to stop presenting together.
0:29:00 > 0:29:03- We did a few things together...
0:29:03 > 0:29:06- ..and people said, - "It's the Chuckle Brothers!"
0:29:07 > 0:29:11- Yes, and people compared us - to the Brodyr Bach brothers.
0:29:12 > 0:29:14- We just thought, "No!"
0:29:14 > 0:29:19- We then started to write - children's programmes separately.
0:29:22 > 0:29:25- As it happened, we ended up - trying for the same jobs.
0:29:26 > 0:29:29- Dan then suggested - we put our heads together.
0:29:32 > 0:29:34- For how long did we work as a team?
0:29:34 > 0:29:36- About 12 years?
0:29:36 > 0:29:40- Yes, we wrote jokes and so on - together every day for 12 years.
0:29:45 > 0:29:49- When we were growing up, - our father was a huge fan of comedy.
0:29:49 > 0:29:53- We watched the work of Mel Brooks, - John Cleese and Python.
0:29:53 > 0:29:56- I went to see Freddie Starr - when I was 16.
0:29:56 > 0:30:00- I loved - watching one man and a microphone...
0:30:00 > 0:30:03- ..making money - for waffling for two hours.
0:30:03 > 0:30:05- I wanted to do stand-up...
0:30:05 > 0:30:08- ..and my heroes are David Baddiel, - Rob Newman...
0:30:09 > 0:30:11- ..Robin Williams and Eddie Murphy.
0:30:11 > 0:30:13- One day, I'll get it right.
0:30:15 > 0:30:17- Mr Daniel Glyn.
0:30:19 > 0:30:20- Thank you.
0:30:23 > 0:30:28- Dan, we're outside a club - called The Scene in Swansea.
0:30:28 > 0:30:30- What's happening tonight?
0:30:32 > 0:30:36- I do stand-up once, twice or - three times a month! I'm very lazy.
0:30:36 > 0:30:41- It took 25 years for me to reach the - stage where I do gigs like this...
0:30:41 > 0:30:43- ..in Welsh and in English.
0:30:43 > 0:30:48- I'll tell a few jokes and talk about - my experiences as a Welsh speaker.
0:30:49 > 0:30:52- I talk about Ysgol Glantaf - and Clwb Ifor Bach.
0:30:52 > 0:30:56- Welsh themes, delivered - through the medium of English.
0:30:57 > 0:31:02- Do you perform more stand-up - in English or in Welsh?
0:31:02 > 0:31:05- It's fifty-fifty, or fifty-pumdeg!
0:31:08 > 0:31:11- There's plenty - of Welsh and English work out there.
0:31:11 > 0:31:14- Doing it in English - is a bigger challenge.
0:31:15 > 0:31:17- There's less competition in Welsh.
0:31:18 > 0:31:19- Do you get nervous?
0:31:19 > 0:31:20- Do you get nervous?- - Yes.
0:31:20 > 0:31:25- It took me ten years - to stop being sick before a gig!
0:31:26 > 0:31:30- The new phenomenon is if you say - you're going to an event...
0:31:31 > 0:31:34- ..your phone reminds you - the event is happening.
0:31:34 > 0:31:38- That happened five minutes ago - and my stomach flipped.
0:31:43 > 0:31:45- Have you been to Clwb Ifor Bach?
0:31:46 > 0:31:50- I did something terrible - when I was young in Clwb Ifor Bach.
0:31:50 > 0:31:53- Don't judge me. - Perhaps you've done the same thing.
0:31:53 > 0:31:57- My mate said, "Let's go to the bogs. - Everybody's doing it."
0:31:57 > 0:32:00- A bloke in the cubicle - was doing what we wanted to do.
0:32:01 > 0:32:02- Don't judge me.
0:32:02 > 0:32:06- Three of us stuffed ourselves - in the cubicle in Clwb Ifor Bach...
0:32:06 > 0:32:08- ..and we spoke English.
0:32:08 > 0:32:10- LAUGHTER
0:32:11 > 0:32:12- Thank you very much.
0:32:13 > 0:32:16- The gig has just finished - and here's Mr Glyn.
0:32:17 > 0:32:18- Good evening.
0:32:18 > 0:32:19- Good evening.- - Alright, Dan?
0:32:19 > 0:32:21- You didn't fall asleep, did you?
0:32:21 > 0:32:23- You didn't fall asleep, did you?- - No. Congratulations.
0:32:23 > 0:32:25- How was it?
0:32:25 > 0:32:27- How was it?- - Alright, but it was hot in there.
0:32:27 > 0:32:31- It was hard work - and I feel weird speaking English.
0:32:31 > 0:32:33- It was fine. They laughed.
0:32:33 > 0:32:36- Were you happy with their reaction?
0:32:36 > 0:32:40- I'm from Cardiff and I always think - I'll get killed in Swansea.
0:32:41 > 0:32:44- I'm in one piece - and my car wasn't nicked. Ideal!
0:32:44 > 0:32:47- Did some jokes - go down better than others?
0:32:47 > 0:32:51- The one about getting my car nicked - didn't go down well!
0:32:52 > 0:32:53- No. A bit awkward.
0:32:53 > 0:32:54- No. A bit awkward.- - Yes, it was #awkward!
0:32:54 > 0:32:56- No. I had a nice night.
0:32:56 > 0:33:00- Thank you for inviting me here. - Where shall we go now?
0:33:00 > 0:33:03- I'm sober but the crowd is drunk.
0:33:03 > 0:33:05- I'll just go and get some chips.
0:33:05 > 0:33:06- I'll just go and get some chips.- - That's a great idea.
0:33:14 > 0:33:17- We both went - to Ysgol Glantaf in Cardiff.
0:33:18 > 0:33:21- That's where I learnt - how to laugh at people...
0:33:22 > 0:33:25- ..and how to accept - being laughed at.
0:33:25 > 0:33:28- I had a happy time there.
0:33:29 > 0:33:33- Everything I know about performing, - I learnt at Ysgol Glantaf.
0:33:33 > 0:33:36- I had good friends - and great teachers.
0:33:36 > 0:33:38- Believe it or not, I played rugby!
0:33:40 > 0:33:44- Here we are, at the school - where it all started for you.
0:33:46 > 0:33:46- There must be a few tales to tell.
0:33:46 > 0:33:49- There must be a few tales to tell.- - The hall is the heart of the school.
0:33:51 > 0:33:53- All the shows were staged here.
0:33:53 > 0:33:55- We always did Welsh musicals.
0:33:56 > 0:34:00- They were open to us - doing anything we wanted to do.
0:34:00 > 0:34:05- When I was in a band, they were - happy for us to rehearse in here...
0:34:05 > 0:34:07- ..and to hold gigs here.
0:34:08 > 0:34:11- Ceffyl Pren was a glam rock band - who sang in Welsh.
0:34:12 > 0:34:16- I'm sure you remember - their famous song, Roc Ar Y Radio.
0:34:18 > 0:34:21- They clearly - had a lot of money behind them.
0:34:21 > 0:34:25- To promote Mae'r Ddraig Yn Hedfan - Dros For Yr Iwerydd...
0:34:25 > 0:34:30- ..they did one gig in America - and arrived here in a helicopter.
0:34:31 > 0:34:33- We were all waving and cheering.
0:34:33 > 0:34:38- As it happens, we had - French exchange students here.
0:34:39 > 0:34:42- They came on, - with lights and everything...
0:34:42 > 0:34:44- ..and counted down dix, neuf!
0:34:44 > 0:34:46- We couldn't believe it!
0:34:47 > 0:34:51- These French kids from Nantes - were amazed.
0:34:51 > 0:34:55- They went trois, deux, un - and they fused the whole school!
0:34:56 > 0:34:58- We were in darkness - for half an hour.
0:34:58 > 0:35:03- Then they played Roc Ar Y Radio, - we went nuts then they flew away.
0:35:03 > 0:35:06- It couldn't happen - in any other Welsh school!
0:35:06 > 0:35:12- A local photographer came and - Michael Evans mooned at the camera!
0:35:13 > 0:35:18- Mooning at a helicopter is tricky. - It's all about angles.
0:35:19 > 0:35:20- What great memories!
0:35:21 > 0:35:22- Amazing! Ceffyl Pren.
0:35:23 > 0:35:26- Math, the group Hanner Pei - started here.
0:35:26 > 0:35:29- On that stage, - before the days of Hanner Pei...
0:35:30 > 0:35:34- ..I played in a band - with Dafydd Palfrey and Ceri Evans.
0:35:34 > 0:35:38- We formed a rap band...
0:35:38 > 0:35:43- ..to raise money for Dr Barnardo's, - called Dr B.
0:35:43 > 0:35:45- I remember that rap. I loved it.
0:35:46 > 0:35:51- # We are rappers. Always nasty - For three funky dudes rapping's easy
0:35:51 > 0:35:54- # We rap in the morning. - We rap at school
0:35:55 > 0:35:58- # We're the best. We're so cool #
0:35:58 > 0:36:00- Yeah. Clever lyrics!
0:36:00 > 0:36:04- We played a gig here, - dressed in white coats...
0:36:05 > 0:36:10- ..and that was Dr B's - one and only gig.
0:36:11 > 0:36:13- Hanner Pei sprang from Dr B.
0:36:14 > 0:36:18- # Girls everywhere - but you're the one I want, my love
0:36:18 > 0:36:22- # You're the one - who captured my heart
0:36:23 > 0:36:27- # My friends laugh - and say you're a waste of time
0:36:27 > 0:36:30- # Oh, listen to my plea
0:36:31 > 0:36:34- # You are pure gold. - The pearls in the sea
0:36:35 > 0:36:40- # You are precious things - which make a fool of me #
0:36:44 > 0:36:46- Join me back in Cardiff - after the break.
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0:36:52 > 0:36:52- Subtitles
0:36:52 > 0:36:54- Subtitles- - Subtitles
0:36:55 > 0:36:57- Welcome back to Cardiff.
0:36:57 > 0:37:01- This week, I'm with the brothers - Daniel and Matthew Glyn.
0:37:02 > 0:37:05- Matthew is waiting for me - on that open-top bus.
0:37:12 > 0:37:17- Math, Cardiff Bay - has changed a lot over the years.
0:37:17 > 0:37:18- Yes, it has.
0:37:19 > 0:37:23- I hate to sound like an old man - going on about change...
0:37:23 > 0:37:25- ..but it really has.
0:37:25 > 0:37:31- When I was young, the industrial era - of the docks had come to an end.
0:37:32 > 0:37:35- All that was here was level land.
0:37:37 > 0:37:40- It's interesting - to see the posh flats here now...
0:37:40 > 0:37:45- ..but when Dan and I were teenagers, - after Dan passed his test...
0:37:46 > 0:37:48- ..we'd drive around this area.
0:37:48 > 0:37:51- You'd see, not fields as such...
0:37:51 > 0:37:56- ..but patches of land - that were full of rabbits.
0:37:56 > 0:38:01- When you turned on the headlights, - all the rabbits were startled.
0:38:09 > 0:38:11- We're near Clwb Ifor Bach now.
0:38:12 > 0:38:17- Math, do you wish there was a place - like this for your children...
0:38:17 > 0:38:21- ..when they grow up and - reach the age where they go out?
0:38:21 > 0:38:26- There's a wider choice of Welsh - centres available to them...
0:38:26 > 0:38:28- ..than existed in my youth.
0:38:28 > 0:38:34- That's because there are increased - numbers of Welsh speakers here.
0:38:36 > 0:38:40- The National Assembly - has opened up opportunities...
0:38:40 > 0:38:44- ..for people to move here - from different areas of Wales.
0:38:44 > 0:38:47- The choice has actually widened.
0:38:52 > 0:38:57- Would you be happy if your children - lived their whole lives in Cardiff?
0:38:57 > 0:39:02- No, I'd like them to travel - far more extensively than me.
0:39:02 > 0:39:05- I haven't travelled much - and I'm not sure why.
0:39:05 > 0:39:09- I've never had the opportunity - or the inclination.
0:39:11 > 0:39:13- My wife has seen the world.
0:39:13 > 0:39:16- I hope my children take after her.
0:39:16 > 0:39:18- I want them to travel the world.
0:39:18 > 0:39:20- We'll see what happens.
0:39:26 > 0:39:31- Math, we're in Penarth, - the town you now call home.
0:39:32 > 0:39:35- I know it's a stupid question - because it's a lovely place...
0:39:36 > 0:39:38- ..but what do you like - about Penarth?
0:39:38 > 0:39:42- I'd spent my whole life - living in Cardiff...
0:39:42 > 0:39:47- ..and I just fell out of love - with the city.
0:39:47 > 0:39:50- I'd spent my teens - and my whole life there.
0:39:50 > 0:39:54- I had a chance to move here - and I found the perfect house.
0:39:55 > 0:40:00- We were starting a family and - I decided to move from Cardiff.
0:40:00 > 0:40:03- Friends of mine had moved here...
0:40:03 > 0:40:06- ..so I knew - there was a community here.
0:40:07 > 0:40:11- I was born in Penarth and my parents - moved when I was one year old.
0:40:11 > 0:40:13- I've come home, in a sense.
0:40:13 > 0:40:17- Cardiff is only ten minutes away...
0:40:17 > 0:40:21- ..yet you feel out of the - hustle and bustle of Cardiff here.
0:40:24 > 0:40:28- We have some sort of beach here - and some glorious views.
0:40:28 > 0:40:30- That's why I decided to move here.
0:40:31 > 0:40:34- I've really enjoyed living here - for the past six years.
0:40:35 > 0:40:38- You're not far from Cardiff, - where Dan still lives.
0:40:39 > 0:40:42- No, but it's far enough - away from Dan!
0:40:43 > 0:40:46- Dan's only ten minutes away, - which is just enough.
0:40:47 > 0:40:50- Yes, but if you need anything - any time of day or night...
0:40:51 > 0:40:53- ..you only have - to pick up the phone.
0:40:53 > 0:40:56- Yes, but I wouldn't phone Dan! - No way!
0:40:58 > 0:41:01- If I had an emergency, - Dan would start to panic...
0:41:01 > 0:41:03- ..and he'd just gasp.
0:41:03 > 0:41:08- He's only around the corner and I'm - grateful I don't have to phone him!
0:41:09 > 0:41:12- Dan performs comedy - for Welsh learners...
0:41:12 > 0:41:16- ..but you also produce - material for learners...
0:41:16 > 0:41:19- ..through the show Ti Fi A Cyw.
0:41:19 > 0:41:21- Yes. This is how Ti Fi A Cyw works.
0:41:22 > 0:41:26- You watch Cyw programmes - between 7.00 and 8.00am.
0:41:26 > 0:41:32- Words used in the programmes - appear on a Twitter stream.
0:41:33 > 0:41:39- If someone says something like - "Wow! I'm flying!" on the TV show...
0:41:40 > 0:41:43- .."Hedfan means to fly or flying" - appears on Twitter.
0:41:44 > 0:41:48- We also give the pronunciation, - which would be head van.
0:41:48 > 0:41:52- It's a brilliant, innovative system.
0:41:58 > 0:42:00- I met Jams on an Urdd drama course.
0:42:00 > 0:42:04- We didn't speak much - for the first three days...
0:42:04 > 0:42:08- ..but then we realized - we both enjoyed being immature...
0:42:08 > 0:42:11- ..and we've been doing that - for almost 30 years.
0:42:12 > 0:42:14- What can I say about Jams Thomas?
0:42:14 > 0:42:17- Seriously - what can I say - about Jams Thomas?
0:42:17 > 0:42:21- He's a good friend to me and Dan...
0:42:22 > 0:42:25- ..plus he's the only person - called Jams I know.
0:42:31 > 0:42:33- Dan and his peers...
0:42:34 > 0:42:38- ..myself among them...
0:42:39 > 0:42:45- ..called Math and his peers, - the Hanner Pei crew, Baldies.
0:42:46 > 0:42:50- They were younger than us - and they couldn't grow a beard.
0:42:52 > 0:42:54- I lived in Dan and Math's house.
0:42:54 > 0:42:59- Tragically, Math and Dan's parents - died when they were really young.
0:43:00 > 0:43:06- Through that, Dan and Math - learnt the value of having friends.
0:43:06 > 0:43:09- They taught me - the value of having friends.
0:43:10 > 0:43:13- Friends aren't just there - for nights out and a laugh.
0:43:14 > 0:43:18- They're also there - to support you during tough times.
0:43:18 > 0:43:21- Dan and Math - have been there for me since then.
0:43:21 > 0:43:26- Math came home one day - and he'd got a tattoo done.
0:43:26 > 0:43:31- It was a Native American tattoo - with an arrow running through it.
0:43:31 > 0:43:34- Me and Dan said, "Whoa! Hang on!"
0:43:34 > 0:43:37- "One of the Baldies - has had a tattoo done before us!"
0:43:38 > 0:43:42- That's why Dan and I rushed out - and got tattoos done.
0:43:42 > 0:43:45- I got one - in the shape of a hydrogen atom.
0:43:45 > 0:43:48- That may sound soft - but Dan was even worse than me!
0:43:49 > 0:43:52- He got Winnie The Pooh - tattooed on his arm!
0:43:52 > 0:43:54- Not a massive one, but a tiny one...
0:43:54 > 0:43:58- ..like the original sketches - in the AA Milne books.
0:43:58 > 0:44:03- We'd been spurred on - to get tattoos done by Math...
0:44:03 > 0:44:05- ..and we both got pathetic ones!
0:44:06 > 0:44:09- Since then, of course, - we've had sleeves done.
0:44:09 > 0:44:12- We're covered in tattoos, - like real men.
0:44:13 > 0:44:17- Math was the first one of us to get - a tattoo done, back in the 1990s.
0:44:17 > 0:44:21- Middle-class kids - didn't do that back then.
0:44:21 > 0:44:24- Little brother - beat big brother to it.
0:44:25 > 0:44:28- Which one has to have - the last word in an argument?
0:44:29 > 0:44:33- Math can talk for Wales - on any subject...
0:44:33 > 0:44:36- ..but Dan - can dish out lethal put-downs.
0:44:37 > 0:44:38- I think they're on a par...
0:44:39 > 0:44:42- ..but I think - Dan always has the shut-up line.
0:44:53 > 0:44:57- Actors, performers, - scriptwriters, comedians.
0:44:57 > 0:45:00- Where are you today?
0:45:01 > 0:45:03- I'll tell you what I am, Trystan.
0:45:03 > 0:45:05- I'm a father.
0:45:05 > 0:45:07- I'm a father.- - A full-time father!
0:45:08 > 0:45:10- I always wanted to be a comedian...
0:45:11 > 0:45:15- ..so if someone describes me - as a comedian, I'm happy.
0:45:15 > 0:45:20- Throughout my career, I've always - expected someone to come up to me...
0:45:20 > 0:45:24- ..and say, "You don't know - what you're doing!"
0:45:24 > 0:45:27- I keep expecting to be rumbled...
0:45:27 > 0:45:31- ..and to be told I can't do this job - because I'm clueless.
0:45:32 > 0:45:37- If I can turn around - and tell someone I'm a writer...
0:45:37 > 0:45:38- ..I'm happy.
0:45:40 > 0:45:42- Writer, author, scriptwriter.
0:45:43 > 0:45:46- Do you plan to work together - again in the future?
0:45:46 > 0:45:48- No, not after doing this!
0:45:49 > 0:45:52- It's reminded us - why we don't work together.
0:45:52 > 0:45:55- Math and I have written - lots of things together.
0:45:56 > 0:46:01- Computer games shows, comedy shows, - stand-up routines and theatre shows.
0:46:01 > 0:46:05- I don't think writing for television - is the way forward.
0:46:05 > 0:46:08- There isn't much work - out there anyway...
0:46:09 > 0:46:11- ..or we'd still be doing it.
0:46:11 > 0:46:12- We have discussed it.
0:46:12 > 0:46:16- We haven't written together - for five years...
0:46:16 > 0:46:18- ..so we do have lots of ideas.
0:46:18 > 0:46:23- We wrote jokes together - every day for 12 years, non-stop...
0:46:24 > 0:46:27- ..so we're quite enjoying - this hiatus.
0:46:27 > 0:46:32- Yes, and in some ways, - this is now a different context.
0:46:33 > 0:46:37- Even when we met for Sunday lunch, - we'd always discuss jokes...
0:46:38 > 0:46:40- ..or scripts which we had to write.
0:46:40 > 0:46:44- It's nice that we no longer - have that context.
0:46:44 > 0:46:48- Yes, so we just waffle on about - films, computer games and comics!
0:46:49 > 0:46:51- I'm sure - we will write together again...
0:46:52 > 0:46:57- ..but I'm proud of the amazing - body of work we produced together.
0:46:58 > 0:46:59- Dan and Math, thank you.
0:46:59 > 0:47:01- It's been a pleasure.
0:47:28 > 0:47:30- S4C Subtitles by Testun Cyf.
0:47:30 > 0:47:30- .