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0:00:01 > 0:00:02- Welcome to Codi Pac.
0:00:02 > 0:00:05- I, Geraint Hardy, will be travelling - all around Wales...
0:00:06 > 0:00:07- ..to find some of our treasures.
0:00:08 > 0:00:11- If you want a weekend away, - you needn't travel far.
0:00:11 > 0:00:13- It's all on the doorstep.
0:00:13 > 0:00:16- Places to eat, places to stay, - things to do and see.
0:00:17 > 0:00:19- They're all here on Codi Pac.
0:00:26 > 0:00:29- I need a few things - for this journey. They're all here.
0:00:29 > 0:00:33- I have a notebook, pamphlets, - an orange camera...
0:00:33 > 0:00:37- ..a mobile phone, water, bag - and a car.
0:00:37 > 0:00:41- I don't need my passport - because I'm staying in Wales.
0:00:42 > 0:00:46- Wales may be small but - there's plenty to do and see here.
0:00:46 > 0:00:48- Over the next six programmes...
0:00:48 > 0:00:51- ..I'll be visiting - six different locations.
0:00:51 > 0:00:55- From Wrexham to Machynlleth, - from Beaumaris to Merthyr Tydfil.
0:00:56 > 0:01:00- I'll be looking at places to stay - and places to eat.
0:01:00 > 0:01:04- I'll find out a bit about local - history and try out some activities.
0:01:05 > 0:01:09- From the exciting to the relaxed, - there'll be something for everyone.
0:01:13 > 0:01:15- For help - following the programme...
0:01:15 > 0:01:18- ..head to the website - or search for the Dal Ati app.
0:01:24 > 0:01:28- This week on Codi Pac, - I'm in Beaumaris, a seaside town.
0:01:28 > 0:01:31- There's something here - to suit everyone.
0:01:31 > 0:01:34- It's got a prison, castle and crabs. - What more do you need?
0:01:34 > 0:01:38- The name Beaumaris comes from - the Norman words, Beau Marais...
0:01:39 > 0:01:40- ..which mean fair marsh.
0:01:41 > 0:01:45- Beaumaris Castle - is a World Heritage Site.
0:01:46 > 0:01:51- The castle was built by Edward I - between 1295 an 1330.
0:01:52 > 0:01:57- The castle has an impressive - concentric design.
0:01:57 > 0:02:00- It attracts visitors - from all across the world.
0:02:08 > 0:02:13- This week's journey starts here - at The Bull in Beaumaris.
0:02:13 > 0:02:15- I'm looking forward - to seeing my room.
0:02:16 > 0:02:21- The Ye Olde Bulls Head Inn - was built in 1472.
0:02:21 > 0:02:24- It was the headquarters - for General Thomas Mytton...
0:02:25 > 0:02:28- ..during the English Civil War.
0:02:28 > 0:02:31- The Bull's most famous guest - was Charles Dickens.
0:02:33 > 0:02:36- I've stayed in a variety of places - during this series.
0:02:36 > 0:02:38- I'm really lucky today.
0:02:38 > 0:02:41- I'm in a posh hotel.
0:02:41 > 0:02:43- This bed says it all.
0:02:44 > 0:02:46- It's grand and majestic.
0:02:47 > 0:02:50- This room is called - the General Mytton.
0:02:50 > 0:02:53- The bed is definitely - for someone important...
0:02:53 > 0:02:55- ..just like me!
0:02:55 > 0:02:57- From the bedroom to the lounge.
0:02:57 > 0:03:00- Look at these beautiful wooden - beams.
0:03:00 > 0:03:04- It's great to see that the table - was built around the beams.
0:03:05 > 0:03:07- From the lounge to the bathroom.
0:03:08 > 0:03:10- There are several - clever things here.
0:03:10 > 0:03:14- This screen separates the room - without the need to build a wall.
0:03:14 > 0:03:16- It's simple and effective.
0:03:16 > 0:03:20- Over here, there's a hidden window - that allows light in...
0:03:20 > 0:03:23- ..if you're taking a shower or bath.
0:03:23 > 0:03:25- Right here, look at this.
0:03:25 > 0:03:27- There's a couple's sink here.
0:03:27 > 0:03:29- Tonight, there's just a sink for me.
0:03:36 > 0:03:39- If you want to stay - outside the town...
0:03:39 > 0:03:42- ..you can head - to Trosyrafon mansion.
0:03:42 > 0:03:46- It's a perfect escape - with the flats...
0:03:46 > 0:03:48- ..cottages or big house - all available.
0:03:48 > 0:03:52- It's ideal for families, - a large party or even weddings.
0:03:53 > 0:03:56- For more information on - accommodation, head to the website.
0:04:01 > 0:04:04- The town's prison - is well worth a visit.
0:04:05 > 0:04:08- This is a building - full of sad memories and secrets.
0:04:10 > 0:04:14- You'll get a good idea of what - prisoners' lives were like.
0:04:16 > 0:04:21- The prison was built in 1829 - by Hansom during the Victorian Age.
0:04:22 > 0:04:25- He's famous for the Hansom cabs - in Victorian London.
0:04:25 > 0:04:30- Historian Geraint Rowlands meets me - in a special part of the building.
0:04:30 > 0:04:33- Tell us what used to happen - in this part of the building.
0:04:37 > 0:04:42- If a prisoner had been sentenced - to hard labour by the court...
0:04:44 > 0:04:47- ..they had one of two choices...
0:04:48 > 0:04:51- ..they could either break stones - or go on the wheel.
0:04:52 > 0:04:53- What was the wheel?
0:04:53 > 0:04:57- Well, obviously, it's a wheel, - but it's more like a mill.
0:04:57 > 0:04:58- It was attached to a pump.
0:04:59 > 0:05:02- The pump would pump water up - from the well...
0:05:02 > 0:05:04- ..to storage tanks in the roof.
0:05:04 > 0:05:08- It provided the whole building - with a supply of water.
0:05:10 > 0:05:12- It's unique.
0:05:12 > 0:05:17- It's the only one in the UK still - in place at its original location.
0:05:19 > 0:05:21- It looks like hard work.
0:05:21 > 0:05:23- Ten solid hours every day.
0:05:24 > 0:05:29- Ten hours. They would be on the - wheel for ten minutes at a time.
0:05:29 > 0:05:33- They'd rest for ten minutes - after that.
0:05:33 > 0:05:36- They'd alternate like that - every day.
0:05:37 > 0:05:39- Life here was clearly hard.
0:05:39 > 0:05:42- Next, - we'll see just how tough it was.
0:05:49 > 0:05:51- Explain what happened in this room.
0:05:52 > 0:05:54- This is the death sentence cell.
0:05:54 > 0:05:59- This cell is a little larger - than the other cells.
0:05:59 > 0:06:01- There's a fire place in there.
0:06:01 > 0:06:03- There's a larger bed too.
0:06:03 > 0:06:05- Was that because it - was their last night?
0:06:05 > 0:06:10- Yes, a bit of comfort before - they were sent to the gallows.
0:06:13 > 0:06:15- There's a classroom here - on the right. Why?
0:06:15 > 0:06:20- Children were kept here - as well as adults.
0:06:20 > 0:06:26- They came here for lessons. - They learned to read and write.
0:06:27 > 0:06:31- Huw Owen was locked up here - when he was 14 years old.
0:06:34 > 0:06:39- He was caught poaching - on the local landowner's estate.
0:06:41 > 0:06:45- He'd stolen a rabbit - or a couple of pheasants.
0:06:46 > 0:06:49- He was sentenced to six months.
0:06:49 > 0:06:50- Six months?
0:06:50 > 0:06:52- Six months?- - Six months of hard labour.
0:06:52 > 0:06:57- That was for poaching a rabbit - or pheasant to feed the family.
0:06:58 > 0:06:59- It seems very harsh.
0:07:00 > 0:07:02- It was incredibly harsh.
0:07:03 > 0:07:07- From this class, there's something - I wasn't expecting to see.
0:07:07 > 0:07:11- There's a nursery here. - Why is there a nursery?
0:07:12 > 0:07:17- If a mother with a child - was jailed here...
0:07:17 > 0:07:20- ..and she had a very young child...
0:07:20 > 0:07:23- ..the child would have - to come in with the mother.
0:07:24 > 0:07:28- Under the nursery, - where the babies stayed...
0:07:28 > 0:07:32- ..is the room - where the women worked.
0:07:32 > 0:07:38- There's a hole in the floor for - a rope that's attached to the crib.
0:07:39 > 0:07:41- If the baby started crying...
0:07:41 > 0:07:45- ..all the mother - would have to do is pull the rope.
0:07:45 > 0:07:48- By rocking the crib, - they could get the baby to sleep.
0:07:50 > 0:07:51- As easy as that.
0:07:51 > 0:07:53- I don't know about that.
0:07:53 > 0:07:57- To finish up, we started with the - death penalty cell and we're here.
0:07:57 > 0:08:01- There's a door here - that leads nowhere.
0:08:01 > 0:08:04- It used to lead - to something very specific.
0:08:06 > 0:08:10- That's the journey - that Richard Rowlands...
0:08:10 > 0:08:13- ..and William Griffiths - took toward the gallows.
0:08:14 > 0:08:16- It was their last walk - to the gallows.
0:08:16 > 0:08:20- A wooden stage - was built from the doorway.
0:08:22 > 0:08:28- On the other side of that door - were the gallows.
0:08:28 > 0:08:31- The gallows were built - in the street.
0:08:34 > 0:08:37- A crowd would gather outside - to watch the hanging.
0:08:38 > 0:08:39- They were public executions.
0:08:40 > 0:08:42- Those are the only two men to have - been hanged here.
0:08:43 > 0:08:44- Yes.
0:08:44 > 0:08:46- What was their specific history?
0:08:46 > 0:08:48- Griffiths - was the first to be hanged.
0:08:48 > 0:08:53- He was found guilty of attempting - to murder one of his wives.
0:08:53 > 0:08:57- He had two wives. They had trouble - getting him out of the cell.
0:09:01 > 0:09:05- Richard Rowlands protested that - he hadn't killed his father in law.
0:09:07 > 0:09:13- He was lead to the gallows - on the morning of the execution...
0:09:13 > 0:09:16- ..he cursed the church's clock.
0:09:16 > 0:09:21- The clock hasn't - kept time since that day.
0:09:21 > 0:09:26- If these walls could talk, I'm sure - they'd have story after story.
0:09:31 > 0:09:34- I never thought I'd say these words.
0:09:34 > 0:09:36- I've enjoyed being in prison.
0:09:36 > 0:09:40- What an incredible place, - it's taken me back in time.
0:09:40 > 0:09:43- One thing's for sure, I wouldn't - want to spend a night here.
0:09:58 > 0:10:01- One of the good things about - Beaumaris is...
0:10:01 > 0:10:06- ..in bad weather, there are plenty - of shops to keep you happy.
0:10:21 > 0:10:24- I'm more than happy with - my luxurious room in the Bull.
0:10:25 > 0:10:28- But I also want to show you - a wonderful eco cabin.
0:10:28 > 0:10:30- This is Nyth Y Wiwer's cosy cabin.
0:10:39 > 0:10:43- All I can hear is the wind - whistling through the trees...
0:10:43 > 0:10:45- ..and birds tweeting merrily.
0:10:46 > 0:10:50- What I can see are amazing views - of North Wales's coastline.
0:10:50 > 0:10:53- I can see the Great Orme - and Llandudno in the distance.
0:10:54 > 0:10:57- What a great place to stay - and enjoy some peace of mind.
0:10:57 > 0:10:59- But what's inside?
0:11:05 > 0:11:08- The simple answer is everything!
0:11:08 > 0:11:13- There's a bed and a viewing - point to look at the view.
0:11:13 > 0:11:16- There's a place to cook.
0:11:16 > 0:11:21- There's also a fire - that can be used to boil a kettle.
0:11:22 > 0:11:23- There's a kitchen downstairs.
0:11:23 > 0:11:26- To escape - from the rest of the world...
0:11:26 > 0:11:28- ..this is the place to come.
0:11:28 > 0:11:31- You get a wolf as well!
0:11:33 > 0:11:35- John, it's a lovely place - you have here.
0:11:36 > 0:11:39- What was your initial inspiration - to create this nest?
0:11:40 > 0:11:45- Nature and tranquillity.
0:11:45 > 0:11:50- It's great for everyone - and in particular for city people.
0:11:52 > 0:11:56- People love it. All who come leave - positive comments in the book.
0:11:57 > 0:11:59- We're very glad of that.
0:12:00 > 0:12:01- It's incredibly quiet here.
0:12:02 > 0:12:04- There are wonderful views.
0:12:05 > 0:12:07- You built this yourself.
0:12:07 > 0:12:10- Yes, it was hard work, - carrying everything up here.
0:12:10 > 0:12:14- I enjoy working with wood.
0:12:15 > 0:12:17- For how long - do people come and stay?
0:12:17 > 0:12:20- Most people come - for two or three nights.
0:12:22 > 0:12:25- We've had the odd guest - who's come for a week.
0:12:25 > 0:12:29- Even during stormy weather. - They've enjoyed themselves too.
0:12:30 > 0:12:33- A woman from York - came to stay for three weeks.
0:12:34 > 0:12:35- She was here on her own.
0:12:35 > 0:12:40- She loved living close to nature.
0:12:41 > 0:12:45- She enjoyed seeing red squirrels - every morning...
0:12:45 > 0:12:48- ..when she opens the curtain.
0:12:52 > 0:12:57- What people write in the book is - that they enjoy the peace and quiet.
0:12:58 > 0:13:01- We're really close to nature here.
0:13:01 > 0:13:04- John, I love the place - and thanks for the chat.
0:13:04 > 0:13:06- Thank you.
0:13:17 > 0:13:20- From the squirrel's nest, - to my own nest.
0:13:20 > 0:13:22- After a long day in Beaumaris...
0:13:23 > 0:13:28- ..where better to relax before - bedtime than this luxurious lounge?
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0:13:44 > 0:13:46- I've had - a wonderful night's sleep...
0:13:46 > 0:13:49- ..but I've got much more - to do in Beaumaris.
0:13:49 > 0:13:52- I've met a turtle, seen some art.
0:13:52 > 0:13:55- Now, I'm off to meet - a local learner.
0:14:09 > 0:14:13- Neil, here we are at this wonderful - church in Beaumaris.
0:14:13 > 0:14:15- Thanks for the warm welcome.
0:14:15 > 0:14:17- Well, welcome to Beaumaris.
0:14:17 > 0:14:20- Are you the vicar of this church?
0:14:20 > 0:14:22- Yes, I'm the parish priest.
0:14:22 > 0:14:24- What's Beaumaris like?
0:14:24 > 0:14:25- Why do people come here?
0:14:26 > 0:14:29- It's old-fashioned - but in the best sense.
0:14:29 > 0:14:31- It's an old-fashioned town.
0:14:32 > 0:14:35- That's what people say.
0:14:35 > 0:14:41- People have time and to make a - connection and to help each other.
0:14:44 > 0:14:46- Tell me about the history - of the church.
0:14:48 > 0:14:50- The castle came first...
0:14:50 > 0:14:53- ..and then a walled town - like Conwy and Caernarfon...
0:14:54 > 0:14:55- ..then came the church.
0:14:55 > 0:14:56- The church has two parts.
0:14:56 > 0:14:59- The church has two parts.- - There are two parts.
0:14:59 > 0:15:02- There's the nave - which is the body of the church.
0:15:02 > 0:15:06- There's also the chancel - which is the most sacred part.
0:15:06 > 0:15:09- It was built a century later.
0:15:10 > 0:15:13- The church's land - also holds Siwan's tomb.
0:15:13 > 0:15:16- Siwan was Llywelyn the Great's wife.
0:15:16 > 0:15:18- She's called Joan in English.
0:15:19 > 0:15:21- Do a lot of people come here - specifically to see it?
0:15:23 > 0:15:24- Oh, yes a lot.
0:15:24 > 0:15:27- It's a romantic story too.
0:15:28 > 0:15:31- Llywelyn loved his wife.
0:15:31 > 0:15:36- One of Beaumaris's families, - the Buckleys...
0:15:37 > 0:15:43- ..one of them discovered - the tomb in a field.
0:15:48 > 0:15:51- They wanted to respect the tomb.
0:15:51 > 0:15:55- After that, - the tomb was moved to the church.
0:15:56 > 0:15:59- She was the daughter - of the King of England...
0:16:00 > 0:16:02- ..and the wife - of the Prince of Gwynedd.
0:16:02 > 0:16:04- You've learned Welsh.
0:16:04 > 0:16:08- Why did you decide - to learn Welsh in the first place?
0:16:08 > 0:16:10- I was raised in Manchester.
0:16:10 > 0:16:14- My family moved to Colwyn Bay, - there wasn't much Welsh there.
0:16:14 > 0:16:15- It was rather anglicized.
0:16:17 > 0:16:21- I was eager to take part - in the community.
0:16:24 > 0:16:30- I went on a course at Lampeter - to improve my language skills.
0:16:30 > 0:16:32- Practice is important.
0:16:32 > 0:16:36- It's all important - to start in Welsh.
0:16:36 > 0:16:39- Do you hear a lot of Welsh - in Beaumaris, generally?
0:16:40 > 0:16:41- Yes, there's a lot.
0:16:41 > 0:16:45- After Easter, in the summer, - people turn to English.
0:16:45 > 0:16:49- It becomes the default option, - you know.
0:16:51 > 0:16:54- But, I do hear it through the year - and more and more.
0:16:55 > 0:16:58- Thanks for the chat, Neil. - It was a pleasure to meet you.
0:16:58 > 0:17:02- After a lovely chat with Reverend - Neil Fairlamb inside the church...
0:17:03 > 0:17:05- ..I went down to the seaside.
0:17:05 > 0:17:09- I'm going to do what children - do there. I'm going crabbing.
0:17:15 > 0:17:18- At the moment, there are children - who've caught more than me.
0:17:20 > 0:17:23- I'm obviously happy for them - but I'd like to catch something.
0:17:26 > 0:17:28- Oh, no!
0:17:32 > 0:17:33- No!
0:17:42 > 0:17:44- OK. Yes. Whoa, stay there.
0:17:45 > 0:17:46- Oh!
0:17:47 > 0:17:50- Don't forget your food, come back!
0:17:54 > 0:17:55- I am enjoying this.
0:17:55 > 0:17:57- I'm really enjoying myself.
0:18:02 > 0:18:04- Here we go, the big moment.
0:18:04 > 0:18:07- Are you ready, loyal viewers of S4C?
0:18:07 > 0:18:09- Look what I caught. - Nothing at all!
0:18:16 > 0:18:20- Something that you have to do - at the seaside is eat chips.
0:18:20 > 0:18:22- That's what I'm going to do!
0:18:26 > 0:18:29- In addition to the chips, - there are plenty of cafes in town.
0:18:30 > 0:18:34- There are a few sophisticated places - such as the Midland.
0:18:34 > 0:18:37- It offers Spanish tapas.
0:18:45 > 0:18:48- A must-have on any holiday - is an ice cream.
0:18:49 > 0:18:50- This is the place to come.
0:18:51 > 0:18:54- The Red Boat is on the corner - of the high street.
0:18:54 > 0:18:57- They're famous - for their home-made ice cream.
0:18:59 > 0:19:00- Hiya, alright?
0:19:00 > 0:19:01- Hiya, alright?- - Fine, thanks.
0:19:02 > 0:19:05- There's a huge choice. - I'm caught between two.
0:19:05 > 0:19:06- The Jammy Dodger or the Bara Brith.
0:19:06 > 0:19:07- The Jammy Dodger or the Bara Brith.- - Do you want to try them?
0:19:08 > 0:19:09- If I can, great!
0:19:09 > 0:19:10- This is the Bara Brith.
0:19:15 > 0:19:17- That tastes like bara brith! - That's nice.
0:19:17 > 0:19:19- This is the Jammie Dodger.
0:19:24 > 0:19:25- It's so hard.
0:19:25 > 0:19:28- As it's a bit sweeter, can I have - the jammie dodger, please?
0:19:28 > 0:19:31- In a plain cone, please.
0:19:31 > 0:19:33- It's a great place to come to relax.
0:19:34 > 0:19:36- As you can see, it's very popular.
0:19:36 > 0:19:38- The ice cream is the reason - for that.
0:19:39 > 0:19:41- It's a cafe really, - a cafe with ice cream.
0:19:44 > 0:19:47- Upstairs, there's a restaurant too. - This is a great place.
0:19:58 > 0:20:02- Before leaving Beaumaris, it's worth - coming to see the old law court.
0:20:02 > 0:20:05- It's near the castle.
0:20:05 > 0:20:08- The building dates back to 1614.
0:20:08 > 0:20:12- It was used as a court until 1996.
0:20:13 > 0:20:17- It's steeped in history - and has a wonderful atmosphere.
0:20:21 > 0:20:22- When the rain starts to fall...
0:20:23 > 0:20:26- ..there's one place - full of water you can escape to.
0:20:27 > 0:20:29- That's the Sea Zoo on the other side - of Anglesey.
0:20:31 > 0:20:36- Allegedly, I can see everything I'd - see in the sea out there in here.
0:20:37 > 0:20:40- The best thing about this is that - I don't need a bathing costume.
0:20:41 > 0:20:42- I won't get wet.
0:20:50 > 0:20:53- We're lucky to be here today.
0:20:53 > 0:20:56- That turtle was discovered - on the shores of the Menai.
0:20:58 > 0:21:01- They're hoping to keep her here - for a while before sending her home.
0:21:01 > 0:21:04- They guess that home is West Africa.
0:21:07 > 0:21:09- There's plenty of fun - to be had at the zoo.
0:21:09 > 0:21:14- Conservation and education - are important to the place.
0:21:17 > 0:21:22- A lobster is usually dark blue - like our friend in the corner there.
0:21:22 > 0:21:25- This orange one is one in a million.
0:21:25 > 0:21:27- It's remarkable.
0:21:32 > 0:21:34- There's something magical - about seahorses.
0:21:35 > 0:21:38- They move so gracefully - through the water.
0:21:38 > 0:21:41- They apparently dance with their - partners every morning.
0:21:42 > 0:21:45- They're the ballerinas of the sea.
0:21:48 > 0:21:50- Finally, - I've managed to catch a crab.
0:21:54 > 0:21:57- My journey ends - at the Ynys Mon gallery.
0:21:57 > 0:21:59- I'm joined by Ceri Williams.
0:22:03 > 0:22:05- Ceri, thanks for the welcome.
0:22:05 > 0:22:07- What can we do here - and what can we see here?
0:22:08 > 0:22:11- The gallery houses - two separate exhibitions...
0:22:12 > 0:22:15- ..one of modern art - and the Kyffin Williams exhibition.
0:22:16 > 0:22:19- There's also a museum, - so there's a lot to see here.
0:22:19 > 0:22:23- You could spend a whole day here - going from one place to another.
0:22:23 > 0:22:25- I'm sure Kyffin Williams - is very popular.
0:22:26 > 0:22:31- He's popular with local people. - They recognize his subject matter.
0:22:31 > 0:22:35- They like the familiarity - of Kyffin's exhibition.
0:22:36 > 0:22:38- Who else do you have here - to attract people?
0:22:38 > 0:22:42- We have a collection - of Charles Tunnicliffe's work.
0:22:42 > 0:22:45- His work is incredibly popular - all over the world.
0:22:46 > 0:22:49- People from the USA and UK - come to see his work.
0:22:50 > 0:22:53- He attracts a lot of people - to the gallery as an artist.
0:22:53 > 0:22:57- How often - do you change the exhibits?
0:22:57 > 0:23:00- Exhibitions are changed here - every six weeks.
0:23:00 > 0:23:03- That's quite challenging.
0:23:03 > 0:23:07- This involves making labels - and putting the artwork on display.
0:23:07 > 0:23:10- We like having something new - for people to see.
0:23:11 > 0:23:13- You've got a Welsh learner's pack - here.
0:23:14 > 0:23:16- Tell us what's in the pack.
0:23:16 > 0:23:18- This pack is called Cyffro Celf.
0:23:19 > 0:23:21- It's available to Welsh learners.
0:23:22 > 0:23:26- It's suitable for all levels - of Welsh speaker.
0:23:26 > 0:23:30- It provides a resource - for people who are learning Welsh.
0:23:31 > 0:23:35- They can come in and discuss art and - learn Welsh through the discussion.
0:23:35 > 0:23:38- There's a list of very useful words - in the folder.
0:23:39 > 0:23:40- I use them myself.
0:23:40 > 0:23:43- There are a lot of technical words - for describing art.
0:23:44 > 0:23:47- "Cyfansoddiad" - composition - and "gwead" - texture.
0:23:47 > 0:23:51- I sometimes take a look in it - to check I've got the Welsh word.
0:23:52 > 0:23:55- Thanks for the chat, Ceri. - It's wonderful to be here.
0:24:00 > 0:24:04- I've enjoyed my visit - to Beaumaris and Anglesey.
0:24:04 > 0:24:08- A perfect combination of history, - leisure, rain and sunshine.
0:24:10 > 0:24:13- I'll see you next week - in Machynlleth.
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0:24:20 > 0:24:21- Subtitles- - Subtitles
0:24:26 > 0:24:27- Hello!
0:24:27 > 0:24:33- I'm in Morriston near Swansea - to meet the minister Eirian Wyn...
0:24:34 > 0:24:36- ..who's also a magician...
0:24:36 > 0:24:40- ..and his daughter, Fflur Wyn, - who's an opera singer.
0:24:40 > 0:24:41- Welcome to Perthyn.
0:24:42 > 0:24:46- For help to follow the programme, - use the website and the app...
0:24:46 > 0:24:49- ..and don't forget the subtitles!
0:24:53 > 0:24:58- I'm the Reverend Eirian Wyn - and I come from Brynaman.
0:24:58 > 0:25:01- I returned to the village - 25 years ago...
0:25:02 > 0:25:05- ..to live in the house - where I grew up.
0:25:08 > 0:25:10- I'm also a magician...
0:25:14 > 0:25:18- ..and I'm chaplain - to Swansea City AFC Academy.
0:25:25 > 0:25:28- Eirian, why did you - become a magician?
0:25:28 > 0:25:32- I'm not sure if I did actually - decide to become a magician.
0:25:33 > 0:25:35- It just seemed to happen.
0:25:35 > 0:25:40- I watched David Nixon on television - when I was a child.
0:25:40 > 0:25:42- He had a coin in his hand.
0:25:42 > 0:25:47- The camera zoomed in - really close to his hand.
0:25:47 > 0:25:50- The coin disappeared - in front of our eyes.
0:25:51 > 0:25:53- I thought, "I want to do that!"
0:26:03 > 0:26:08- In the early 1980s, Desmond Jones, - who owned a bus company...
0:26:08 > 0:26:12- ..asked me to go to Peniel - instead of him...
0:26:12 > 0:26:15- ..to put on a children's show.
0:26:15 > 0:26:17- It went really well.
0:26:17 > 0:26:20- From then on, by word of mouth...
0:26:20 > 0:26:23- ..more and more people - heard about my magic show.
0:26:23 > 0:26:26- It took off from there.
0:26:29 > 0:26:33- How did you learn the art of magic?
0:26:33 > 0:26:36- Take something like this.
0:26:36 > 0:26:39- You pick it up, - then you go like that...
0:26:41 > 0:26:43- ..and you realize it's vanished.
0:26:43 > 0:26:46- Then I remember - that it's behind your ear.
0:26:47 > 0:26:48- How did you do that?
0:26:48 > 0:26:50- If I find out, I'll let you know.
0:27:00 > 0:27:05- Did you try the magic tricks out - on Helen and Fflur?
0:27:06 > 0:27:11- Yes, but they were both - the harshest critics possible.
0:27:12 > 0:27:16- If either of them told me - something was a good trick...
0:27:16 > 0:27:18- ..I'd know - it was ready for the public.
0:27:19 > 0:27:21- If Helen said, - "Hmm. It was alright"...
0:27:21 > 0:27:24- ..I knew the trick needed more work.
0:27:24 > 0:27:28- I paid big money for one trick.
0:27:28 > 0:27:33- I worked hard on it before - showing it to Helen and Fflur.
0:27:33 > 0:27:38- I performed the trick for them - and Fflur was young at the time.
0:27:38 > 0:27:40- I did the trick and it went well.
0:27:41 > 0:27:42- I felt great.
0:27:42 > 0:27:46- Helen was impressed, but Fflur said, - "Dad, I know how you did it."
0:27:47 > 0:27:51- I thought, "Alright then, - clever dickie, come here!"
0:27:51 > 0:27:55- I told her to do it herself, - thinking she'd get it wrong...
0:27:55 > 0:27:58- ..but she performed the trick - perfectly.
0:27:59 > 0:28:01- Even professional magicians...
0:28:01 > 0:28:05- ..need instructions - to perform this trick...
0:28:06 > 0:28:08- ..so I asked her how she'd done it.
0:28:08 > 0:28:13- She explained how she'd done it - and that was the correct method!
0:28:13 > 0:28:17- She'd worked it out all by herself.
0:28:17 > 0:28:21- Magicians never reveal the secrets - of their tricks, do they?
0:28:22 > 0:28:25- No, because we don't know - how magic works either.
0:28:25 > 0:28:27- Really? Come on!
0:28:28 > 0:28:30- One, two...?
0:28:30 > 0:28:31- One, two...?- - Three.
0:28:31 > 0:28:33- Count them again. One, two.
0:28:34 > 0:28:35- One, two.
0:28:35 > 0:28:37- Blow.
0:28:37 > 0:28:38- How many were there?
0:28:38 > 0:28:39- How many were there?- - Two.
0:28:40 > 0:28:41- That's right.
0:28:41 > 0:28:43- You can't count! Blow again.
0:28:45 > 0:28:47- How many is that?
0:28:53 > 0:28:54- Where did they go?
0:28:59 > 0:29:03- As a child, I went to chapel - three times every Sunday.
0:29:07 > 0:29:10- I decided - that I wanted to enter the ministry.
0:29:12 > 0:29:14- I went to college in Bangor...
0:29:15 > 0:29:19- ..and I'm now minister - at Seion Newydd Chapel, Morriston.
0:29:20 > 0:29:25- Christianity is important to me - and I continue to grow in the faith.
0:29:31 > 0:29:35- I can't say I ever heard a voice - calling me to the faith...
0:29:35 > 0:29:38- ..or to become a minister...
0:29:38 > 0:29:41- ..but I have grown in the faith.
0:29:41 > 0:29:43- I think that's important.
0:29:43 > 0:29:47- Children get used to going to chapel - with their parents...
0:29:48 > 0:29:50- ..and they then grow in the faith.
0:29:51 > 0:29:55- But parents don't bring - their children to Sunday school...
0:29:55 > 0:29:57- ..or to chapel services any more.
0:29:58 > 0:30:03- Children don't get used to coming - to chapel, more's the pity.
0:30:03 > 0:30:06- What do you enjoy most - about the work?
0:30:06 > 0:30:08- Everything, to be honest.
0:30:08 > 0:30:11- I love delivering sermons...
0:30:11 > 0:30:15- ..and it's a brilliant place - for doing that.
0:30:15 > 0:30:19- It's also a great place to sing, - as Fflur has done many times.
0:30:20 > 0:30:23- She says the acoustic is excellent.
0:30:25 > 0:30:30- I love meeting people and hosting - events, especially for children.
0:30:31 > 0:30:36- I'm a firm believer in opening the - doors of God's house to atheists...
0:30:36 > 0:30:39- ..or to those - who haven't heard about Jesus.
0:30:40 > 0:30:43- Did Fflur come here - to listen to you preach?
0:30:44 > 0:30:47- Fflur first came to this chapel...
0:30:48 > 0:30:51- ..when she was around two weeks old.
0:30:53 > 0:30:59- How does Eirian Wyn - combine the sermons and the magic?
0:30:59 > 0:31:04- I'm utterly convinced that my talent - for magic is God-given.
0:31:04 > 0:31:06- I'll tell you why.
0:31:06 > 0:31:09- If it weren't for magic, - I'd be blind.
0:31:09 > 0:31:11- This is an interesting story.
0:31:11 > 0:31:15- I was putting on a show - at a boy's birthday party...
0:31:15 > 0:31:19- ..when I was 29 or 30 years old.
0:31:19 > 0:31:24- After the party, I asked his mother - for some painkillers...
0:31:24 > 0:31:26- ..because I had a headache.
0:31:26 > 0:31:31- She told me to look at a light bulb - and tell her what I could see.
0:31:31 > 0:31:35- I told her I could see - a rainbow around the bulb.
0:31:36 > 0:31:40- She replied, "I'm an optometrist. - I think you have glaucoma."
0:31:40 > 0:31:43- Older people usually have glaucoma.
0:31:43 > 0:31:46- She told me to see a specialist - and I did just that.
0:31:47 > 0:31:49- I saw a specialist at Glangwili.
0:31:49 > 0:31:52- He put drops in my eyes - and blew air into them.
0:31:52 > 0:31:56- The drops went in and he measured - the pressure in the eye.
0:31:57 > 0:32:00- He turned to me and said, - "She was right."
0:32:00 > 0:32:02- "You're a lucky man.
0:32:02 > 0:32:06- "It's so high, you could have - gone totally blind...
0:32:06 > 0:32:08- "..in a matter of days or weeks."
0:32:08 > 0:32:10- God gave me the gift of magic...
0:32:11 > 0:32:14- ..to make sure - I went to Norma Davies's house...
0:32:14 > 0:32:17- ..and discover that I had glaucoma.
0:32:17 > 0:32:19- If I weren't a magician, - I'd be blind.
0:32:20 > 0:32:22- I wouldn't have known - I had glaucoma.
0:32:23 > 0:32:26- I've seen a specialist - every six months since I was 30.
0:32:26 > 0:32:30- And I'm 35 now!
0:32:30 > 0:32:32- No, I'm 62.
0:32:36 > 0:32:40- After the summer, - I'll start my fourth season...
0:32:40 > 0:32:45- ..as chaplain - to Swansea City AFC Academy.
0:32:45 > 0:32:49- I take care of the boys - aged from 21 down to around ten.
0:32:49 > 0:32:55- I'm also here for the coaches - and for some of the parents.
0:32:56 > 0:33:01- I enjoy being a chaplain and seeing - the boys, as time passes...
0:33:02 > 0:33:05- ..responding more - to what I have to say.
0:33:05 > 0:33:10- I also see them grow - from boys to men.
0:33:13 > 0:33:19- I'm not here to shove Christianity - down these youngsters' throats.
0:33:20 > 0:33:25- If the boys or the coaches want to - talk about Christianity, I'm here.
0:33:25 > 0:33:29- As it happens, a few of the boys - are young Christians.
0:33:30 > 0:33:34- I chat to them from time to time - and they also come to me.
0:33:34 > 0:33:39- We talk about faith in general - and Christianity in particular.
0:33:40 > 0:33:45- This job clearly gives you - great pleasure and enjoyment.
0:33:46 > 0:33:49- Yes, it's an unbelievable pleasure.
0:33:49 > 0:33:52- Luckily, I like football.
0:33:52 > 0:33:55- No, I actually love football.
0:33:55 > 0:33:57- I love this club.
0:33:57 > 0:34:02- The badge means almost as much - as my faith to me.
0:34:02 > 0:34:05- Not quite as much, but nearly!
0:34:06 > 0:34:11- Over the years, you've got to know - many of the first team players.
0:34:12 > 0:34:13- Yes.
0:34:13 > 0:34:17- To be honest, - and I won't name names...
0:34:17 > 0:34:20- ..but I'm still in touch - with many of them.
0:34:20 > 0:34:24- If something happens or when - congratulations are in order...
0:34:24 > 0:34:28- ..I get in touch with them - and some of them text me too.
0:34:29 > 0:34:34- I've heard an interesting story that - one player named his son after you.
0:34:34 > 0:34:38- No, it wasn't a player. - It was a player's sister.
0:34:38 > 0:34:41- Angel Rangel.
0:34:41 > 0:34:47- When Roberto played for us, he knew - I spoke a little bit of Spanish.
0:34:47 > 0:34:50- I practised my Spanish on him.
0:34:50 > 0:34:53- When he returned here as manager...
0:34:53 > 0:34:57- ..he brought Spaniards and Catalans - over to play for Swansea.
0:34:58 > 0:35:00- I became good friends with Angel...
0:35:00 > 0:35:05- ..and his parents, sister - and brother-in-law.
0:35:05 > 0:35:11- A year to 18 months - after he came here...
0:35:12 > 0:35:17- ..I received a text message - from Angel's brother-in-law...
0:35:17 > 0:35:18- ..out in Catalonia.
0:35:19 > 0:35:23- He told me that Angel's sister, - Serena, had given birth to a boy...
0:35:23 > 0:35:25- ..and they'd named him...
0:35:25 > 0:35:28- ..Eirian Cruz Rangel.
0:35:28 > 0:35:31- They named him after me.
0:35:47 > 0:35:50- Join me after the break, - when I meet Fflur in London...
0:35:51 > 0:35:53- ..to talk about - her work, her life...
0:35:54 > 0:35:57- ..and her special relationship - with her father.
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0:36:02 > 0:36:02- Subtitles
0:36:02 > 0:36:03- Subtitles- - Subtitles
0:36:05 > 0:36:06- Welcome back.
0:36:07 > 0:36:08- I've already met Eirian Wyn.
0:36:09 > 0:36:12- Now, I'm in London - to meet Fflur, his daughter.
0:36:12 > 0:36:14- She's an opera singer.
0:36:29 > 0:36:31- I've lived in London for 15 years.
0:36:32 > 0:36:35- I've been singing - since the age of three...
0:36:35 > 0:36:39- ..and I've been a professional - opera singer for 15 years.
0:36:39 > 0:36:44- I've sung the music of Bach, Handel, - Mozart and even some modern music.
0:36:45 > 0:36:49- Fflur, what sparked - your interest in singing?
0:36:50 > 0:36:52- I don't think I had much choice!
0:36:52 > 0:36:55- Mam is a musician. She was a singer.
0:36:55 > 0:37:00- I was surrounded by music - from the day I was born.
0:37:00 > 0:37:02- I sang at my father's chapel...
0:37:03 > 0:37:06- ..and I sang in school concerts.
0:37:07 > 0:37:08- I never chose to sing.
0:37:08 > 0:37:13- It's something I've always done - and something I really enjoy.
0:37:13 > 0:37:19- Opera hasn't always been - your main passion.
0:37:19 > 0:37:24- No, I started by singing folk songs - and cerdd dant in eisteddfodau.
0:37:24 > 0:37:28- I sang in my first musical - when I was 14 years old...
0:37:28 > 0:37:33- ..and I fell head over heels in love - with the world of the musicals.
0:37:33 > 0:37:35- It was my ambition for many years...
0:37:36 > 0:37:41- ..to sing in musicals like Les Mis, - Phantom or Miss Saigon.
0:37:41 > 0:37:44- As I got older, my voice changed...
0:37:44 > 0:37:48- ..and took on - a more classical quality.
0:37:48 > 0:37:51- That's when - realization dawned...
0:37:51 > 0:37:56- ..that I didn't have the right voice - for a career in the West End.
0:37:56 > 0:38:01- I now adore being an opera singer - and going to see the musicals.
0:38:01 > 0:38:04- I think I have - the best of both worlds.
0:38:15 > 0:38:19- You've been - on a very successful journey.
0:38:19 > 0:38:22- What are the highlights, so far?
0:38:22 > 0:38:28- Singing in the Royal Albert Hall - is definitely one of my highlights.
0:38:28 > 0:38:33- I was 18 at the time and I performed - in the 1,000 Voices concert.
0:38:34 > 0:38:39- My other highlights include - singing at La Monnaie in Brussels...
0:38:39 > 0:38:43- ..one of the world's most famous - opera houses and opera companies...
0:38:43 > 0:38:47- ..and performing - in the Concertgebouw, Amsterdam.
0:38:47 > 0:38:50- That was - a truly thrilling experience.
0:38:51 > 0:38:56- It's a concert hall I've heard about - since I was a child...
0:38:56 > 0:38:59- ..but I never imagined - I'd sing there.
0:38:59 > 0:39:05- Every now and then, I pinch myself - when I realize I do this as a job!
0:39:05 > 0:39:06- It's wonderful.
0:39:07 > 0:39:09- What are you doing at the moment?
0:39:09 > 0:39:12- I've just finished - a series of concerts...
0:39:12 > 0:39:16- ..with the OAE, The Orchestra - Of The Age Of Enlightenment.
0:39:16 > 0:39:19- We performed St Matthew Passion...
0:39:19 > 0:39:23- ..five times in six days - in three countries.
0:39:24 > 0:39:29- Next, I'll go to Italy to perform - Beethoven's Ninth Symphony.
0:39:29 > 0:39:34- The next big thing - I'm currently preparing for...
0:39:35 > 0:39:38- ..is to sing the lead role - in Lakme by Delibes...
0:39:38 > 0:39:41- ..for Opera Holland Park in London.
0:39:42 > 0:39:43- That's my next great work.
0:39:43 > 0:39:44- That's my next great work.- - Brilliant.
0:39:45 > 0:39:48- I'm looking forward to it - but I'm nervous too.
0:39:53 > 0:39:58- Do you see yourself - settling here, in London?
0:39:59 > 0:40:01- Yes, for a while.
0:40:01 > 0:40:03- I've settled down here now.
0:40:04 > 0:40:07- I'd love to move back - to Wales one day...
0:40:07 > 0:40:12- ..but it makes no difference where - you are, as long as you're happy.
0:40:13 > 0:40:18- I could live half way across - the world as long as I was happy.
0:40:20 > 0:40:25- You're really close to your parents, - especially your father.
0:40:25 > 0:40:29- Yes, I'm really close to him - and I know I'm very lucky.
0:40:29 > 0:40:33- Many of my friends - aren't that close to their parents.
0:40:34 > 0:40:36- They don't count them as friends.
0:40:36 > 0:40:39- I count my parents as two friends.
0:40:39 > 0:40:43- They've always raised me - to be a mature individual.
0:40:44 > 0:40:49- They've always respected me, - which means I respect them too.
0:40:50 > 0:40:52- I think that's why we're so close.
0:40:52 > 0:40:57- Do you miss - your father's magic tricks?
0:40:57 > 0:40:59- No, I don't miss them!
0:40:59 > 0:41:02- Wherever we went - when I was a child...
0:41:02 > 0:41:06- ..if no magic was involved, - there was something wrong.
0:41:06 > 0:41:09- All my friends - asked him to do tricks.
0:41:09 > 0:41:11- I'd think, "Here we go again!"
0:41:12 > 0:41:14- He hasn't done much for a while...
0:41:15 > 0:41:18- ..but, to be fair, - he's quite good at it.
0:41:18 > 0:41:19- Don't tell him I said so!
0:41:19 > 0:41:21- Don't tell him I said so!- - Your father is full of tricks.
0:41:37 > 0:41:41- Dresses and costumes are a big part - of the life of an opera singer.
0:41:42 > 0:41:46- Was that part of the attraction - of being an opera singer?
0:41:46 > 0:41:50- I should say no, - but I'm sure it did attract me.
0:41:50 > 0:41:55- I've loved dresses - and beautiful costumes for years...
0:41:55 > 0:42:01- ..and choosing what to wear is an - enjoyable part of giving concerts.
0:42:01 > 0:42:07- How many dresses like the ones we - see here are there in your wardrobe?
0:42:07 > 0:42:11- Around 40, at the moment.
0:42:11 > 0:42:14- There may be one or two more - at my parents' house.
0:42:15 > 0:42:18- Their value varies, of course...
0:42:18 > 0:42:21- ..but there's great detail - in some of them.
0:42:22 > 0:42:26- Yes. I bought this one for a concert - at the National Eisteddfod.
0:42:26 > 0:42:31- I was singing Faure's Requiem - and a piece by Poulenc.
0:42:31 > 0:42:35- I was sharing the stage - with two men in black...
0:42:36 > 0:42:39- ..so I wanted a dress - which would make me stand out.
0:42:39 > 0:42:43- I found this dress - in a shop called Lara in London.
0:42:43 > 0:42:46- I tried it on, it fitted me - and I knew it was the one.
0:42:47 > 0:42:50- What's the story behind this one?
0:42:50 > 0:42:54- Well, it cost a fortune! - I won't say how much.
0:42:54 > 0:42:58- I was invited to sing - in a concert in Qatar...
0:42:59 > 0:43:03- ..for the Emir, - who is ostensibly the king of Qatar.
0:43:03 > 0:43:06- I had this made for me.
0:43:06 > 0:43:09- As you can see, - it's quite a small dress...
0:43:09 > 0:43:13- ..and it fits me like a glove.
0:43:13 > 0:43:19- As I stepped onto the stage, I saw - two soldiers holding AK-47 rifles...
0:43:19 > 0:43:23- ..ready to give me a body search - to make sure I wasn't armed.
0:43:23 > 0:43:28- Where did they think - I'd conceal a weapon under it?!
0:43:28 > 0:43:32- The dress on the end - is a very striking colour.
0:43:32 > 0:43:35- Yes, and it's one of my favourites.
0:43:35 > 0:43:38- Huw Fash made this dress for me.
0:43:39 > 0:43:41- The famous Huw Fash.
0:43:42 > 0:43:45- The first time - I went to him for a fitting...
0:43:45 > 0:43:48- ..he'd created a dress for me - from toile.
0:43:49 > 0:43:51- I hadn't sent him my measurements.
0:43:51 > 0:43:55- He'd made it on the off chance - to see what would it be like.
0:43:55 > 0:43:58- I tried it on - and it fitted me perfectly.
0:43:58 > 0:44:00- How many venues has this seen?
0:44:00 > 0:44:02- How many venues has this seen?- - Only one.
0:44:02 > 0:44:03- It's just a baby.
0:44:04 > 0:44:06- I sound really sad - calling a dress a baby!
0:44:07 > 0:44:08- This is a new dress.
0:44:09 > 0:44:13- The others are flung in a suitcase - to travel the world...
0:44:13 > 0:44:16- ..but I keep a few dresses - for big concerts.
0:44:16 > 0:44:17- Special ones.
0:44:21 > 0:44:25- I feel very lucky - to have my parents.
0:44:26 > 0:44:29- They gave me an amazing childhood.
0:44:30 > 0:44:35- They're not only good parents - but they're also good friends.
0:44:36 > 0:44:40- Dad and I are really close - and we've travelled abroad together.
0:44:40 > 0:44:44- It's great when he comes here - to stay with me.
0:44:46 > 0:44:49- Eirian, how often - do you visit Fflur here in London?
0:44:50 > 0:44:52- Um, well...
0:44:53 > 0:44:55- As often as I can.
0:44:55 > 0:44:58- About four times a year.
0:44:58 > 0:45:00- About four times a year.- - Something like that.
0:45:00 > 0:45:03- But only for a day or two.
0:45:03 > 0:45:06- Eirian, let's turn back the clock...
0:45:06 > 0:45:10- ..to the years - when Fflur competed in eisteddfodau.
0:45:10 > 0:45:13- Did you ever think - she'd become an opera singer?
0:45:14 > 0:45:19- I knew she'd be a performer, - of that I had no doubt.
0:45:20 > 0:45:26- I thought she'd go in the direction - of the West End, that type of thing.
0:45:28 > 0:45:32- Once she started at the Academy, - I noticed her voice changing.
0:45:32 > 0:45:36- She still competed - in eisteddfodau...
0:45:36 > 0:45:40- ..but she sang more classical songs.
0:45:41 > 0:45:43- I could see her changing...
0:45:43 > 0:45:46- ..so it didn't surprise me...
0:45:46 > 0:45:50- ..when she decided - to become an opera singer.
0:45:51 > 0:45:55- Fflur, how do you feel when you - listen to your father's sermons?
0:45:55 > 0:45:58- I sometimes struggle - to follow sermons.
0:45:59 > 0:46:03- I was brought up in the chapel - and I went to Sunday school...
0:46:03 > 0:46:05- ..but I still struggle.
0:46:05 > 0:46:07- I think it's a common problem.
0:46:07 > 0:46:12- But when Dad's giving the sermon, - I can follow every word of it.
0:46:12 > 0:46:16- Eirian and Fflur, - you're clearly very close.
0:46:16 > 0:46:20- What's the secret - behind creating a close bond...
0:46:20 > 0:46:23- ..between father and daughter?
0:46:23 > 0:46:26- Being a daughter - who can put up with a lot!
0:46:27 > 0:46:30- She got that in just before me!
0:46:30 > 0:46:33- You were quick off the mark, Fflur!
0:46:35 > 0:46:36- One word.
0:46:36 > 0:46:37- Just one word.
0:46:38 > 0:46:39- Love.
0:46:39 > 0:46:41- It's as simple as that.
0:46:41 > 0:46:44- If you love someone, - the relationship is strong.
0:46:45 > 0:46:46- We argue a lot, mind you.
0:46:46 > 0:46:48- We argue a lot, mind you.- - Yes, we do fall out.
0:46:48 > 0:46:49- We're too similar.
0:46:49 > 0:46:51- We're too similar.- - Yes, far too similar.
0:46:51 > 0:46:57- But five minutes after the argument, - it's as if nothing had happened.
0:46:57 > 0:47:00- Yes, that's true, - when we do fall out.
0:47:00 > 0:47:03- We never have huge arguments anyway.
0:47:03 > 0:47:04- Don't we?
0:47:05 > 0:47:07- I'm not so sure!
0:47:08 > 0:47:11- As you said, it's all blown over - five minutes later.
0:47:11 > 0:47:16- It's five minutes later with me, - and three days later with her!
0:47:16 > 0:47:20- Eirian and Fflur, - thank you for talking to me.
0:47:20 > 0:47:21- You're welcome.
0:47:21 > 0:47:23- You're welcome.- - Thank you very much.
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