Episode 10

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0:00:12 > 0:00:15APPLAUSE Hello and welcome to Debatable,

0:00:15 > 0:00:19the quiz show that proves when it comes to celebrity chat,

0:00:19 > 0:00:21less is sometimes more.

0:00:21 > 0:00:25Today, our panel of celebrities will be trying to help a contestant

0:00:25 > 0:00:27debate their way to a ?2,000 jackpot,

0:00:27 > 0:00:29but will they help or will they hinder?

0:00:29 > 0:00:32That's Debatable, so, let's meet them.

0:00:33 > 0:00:35On today's show we have...

0:00:35 > 0:00:38Former England cricketer, Phil Tufnell.

0:00:38 > 0:00:40We have broadcaster Jennie Bond

0:00:40 > 0:00:42and TV presenter Angellica Bell.

0:00:42 > 0:00:44APPLAUSE

0:00:46 > 0:00:49That is the panel, let's see who's playing today.

0:00:49 > 0:00:51It is Samantha Russell from the Midlands.

0:00:51 > 0:00:54APPLAUSE

0:00:54 > 0:00:56Hi, Sam. Hi, nice to meet you. How you doing? Good, thank you.

0:00:56 > 0:00:59Welcome to the show. Thanks. Tell us a little bit about yourself.

0:00:59 > 0:01:02I'm a personal trainer and a fitness instructor from the Midlands.

0:01:02 > 0:01:04Do you think you could whip our panel into shape?

0:01:04 > 0:01:07They're in great shape already. You think? Yeah, definitely.

0:01:07 > 0:01:09I'm looking forward to working with these guys.

0:01:09 > 0:01:11You're looking forward to working with them?

0:01:11 > 0:01:14Yeah, I've got a brilliant panel. It can only go downhill from here.

0:01:16 > 0:01:17OK, best of luck, Sam,

0:01:17 > 0:01:20let's get this Debatable show on the road as we play Round One.

0:01:24 > 0:01:26Sam, this round is multiple choice.

0:01:26 > 0:01:30Each question has four possible answers, but only one is correct.

0:01:30 > 0:01:34Helping you to the correct answer is our panel.

0:01:34 > 0:01:36Will you go with what they say, or will you go your own way?

0:01:36 > 0:01:40It's entirely up to you. There's two questions in this round.

0:01:40 > 0:01:42Each correct answer is worth ?200,

0:01:42 > 0:01:45which we'll put into your prize pot and you'll be playing for that

0:01:45 > 0:01:48at the end of the show in the Final Debate. OK. Happy to go?

0:01:48 > 0:01:50Yeah. Let's go. OK, let's go.

0:01:50 > 0:01:51Here comes question one.

0:02:11 > 0:02:13I was immediately drawn to Taj Mahal.

0:02:13 > 0:02:16I kind of remembered hearing something about it being

0:02:16 > 0:02:18a Wonder of the World, but I'd like to hear

0:02:18 > 0:02:21what the panel have to say about it, really.

0:02:21 > 0:02:25We have a panel who will sort this out very quickly for us.

0:02:25 > 0:02:28Panel, your debate starts now.

0:02:28 > 0:02:31I think what we really need to focus on is the new bit.

0:02:31 > 0:02:34Now, Kate and Wills recently went to the Taj Mahal

0:02:34 > 0:02:38and had a picture, and I vaguely remember seeing that in the paper

0:02:38 > 0:02:41and reading something about it being the new because I think maybe

0:02:41 > 0:02:45some people think it's in the old,

0:02:45 > 0:02:48which I don't know if the Taj Mahal was in the original. No.

0:02:48 > 0:02:52I'm trying to remember. It wouldn't be a dam, would it?

0:02:52 > 0:02:55It wouldn't be a big wall. It wouldn't be a dam.

0:02:55 > 0:02:58Is it wondrous? No, it's a big wall.

0:02:58 > 0:03:00No, that's not wondrous. So not the Hoover Dam?

0:03:00 > 0:03:02It's not the Hoover Dam. I don't think it's the Hoover Dam.

0:03:02 > 0:03:06The Sydney Opera House is gorgeous and iconic, but is it a real wonder?

0:03:06 > 0:03:10It is a wonder of architecture, I suppose, but it's not wondrous.

0:03:10 > 0:03:13Eiffel Tower, just big and metal. I think it's the Taj Mahal.

0:03:13 > 0:03:16I'm going Taj Mahal. It is magical, have you been?

0:03:16 > 0:03:19I have. It's fantastic, isn't it? Yeah, it changes colour, doesn't it?

0:03:19 > 0:03:20But the question is... Does it?

0:03:20 > 0:03:22Yes, when the sun sets it goes another colour.

0:03:22 > 0:03:24Oh, I wasn't there at sunset.

0:03:24 > 0:03:25Lovely.

0:03:25 > 0:03:29I think the Taj Mahal is one of the new ones, but, you know,

0:03:29 > 0:03:31that's just my opinion. Phil?

0:03:31 > 0:03:33I'm going with Taj, all day long.

0:03:33 > 0:03:34OK, right.

0:03:34 > 0:03:39Well, I think we the panel have decided it is the Taj Mahal.

0:03:41 > 0:03:45They're thinking Taj Mahal, they're going with you on this.

0:03:45 > 0:03:47Anything there to make you change your mind?

0:03:47 > 0:03:50Well, what Angellica was saying about, is it a new one?

0:03:50 > 0:03:52That is my one big sticking point here.

0:03:52 > 0:03:54Maybe should stick with the gut instinct.

0:03:54 > 0:03:56I'm going to stick with it and say Taj Mahal. Ooh, no!

0:03:56 > 0:04:00OK, you're going with the panel. Yep, definitely.

0:04:00 > 0:04:03All in, all agreed for ?200.

0:04:03 > 0:04:04The correct answer is...

0:04:10 > 0:04:12It is the Taj Mahal! APPLAUSE

0:04:13 > 0:04:14Well played.

0:04:14 > 0:04:17The Taj Mahal was built in the 1600s,

0:04:17 > 0:04:21long after the original Ancient Wonders of the World.

0:04:21 > 0:04:25The new Seven Wonders of the World were announced in 2007

0:04:25 > 0:04:28by the New7Wonders Foundation.

0:04:28 > 0:04:30Well played, Sam, you are up and running.

0:04:30 > 0:04:32?200 in the prize pot.

0:04:32 > 0:04:33APPLAUSE

0:04:36 > 0:04:37Here we go, here's your next question.

0:04:37 > 0:04:39Let's see if we can get another 200 up there.

0:04:57 > 0:05:00What's your first thoughts on this? Well I was just putting "Sir"

0:05:00 > 0:05:02in front each of them to see which sounded the most familiar.

0:05:02 > 0:05:04And Mick Jagger sounded the most familiar,

0:05:04 > 0:05:07but that's, again, a bit of a gut instinct.

0:05:07 > 0:05:09Bit of a wild guess.

0:05:09 > 0:05:12OK, you're leaning towards Mick Jagger.

0:05:12 > 0:05:14Jennie's smiling.

0:05:14 > 0:05:15Panel, your debate starts now.

0:05:15 > 0:05:17It's not going to be the drummer, is it? No.

0:05:17 > 0:05:19Ringo Starr. "Sir Ringo." No.

0:05:19 > 0:05:21I know Brian May's got a PhD and he's fantastic,

0:05:21 > 0:05:24and he has played on top of Buckingham Palace.

0:05:24 > 0:05:27I saw him on top of Buckingham Palace with his guitar,

0:05:27 > 0:05:28playing the national anthem.

0:05:28 > 0:05:31But Sir Mick Jagger, I recall reading...

0:05:31 > 0:05:34I'm sure it's Sir Mick Jagger. I'm sure he is Sir Mick. Yeah.

0:05:34 > 0:05:36Because I thought, yeah, but why? You know, when he got it...

0:05:36 > 0:05:39I love Mick Jagger, don't get me wrong,

0:05:39 > 0:05:41but knighthood for being a rock 'n' roller?

0:05:41 > 0:05:43Well, there's a few rock 'n' rollers that are knights.

0:05:43 > 0:05:47I think that Sam is correct, and that it's Sir Mick.

0:05:47 > 0:05:50What do you think, Phil? Yeah, I think it can only be Sir Mick.

0:05:50 > 0:05:52Arise, Sir Mick.

0:05:52 > 0:05:54I think he might be next, Phil Collins, actually.

0:05:54 > 0:05:57And Brian May, actually, he's very respectable.

0:05:57 > 0:06:00He is respectable. Yes. And respected.

0:06:00 > 0:06:01Yes, lovely hair. Yeah.

0:06:02 > 0:06:05What do you think? I think Jagger. OK. OK. Yeah.

0:06:05 > 0:06:06All right.

0:06:06 > 0:06:10OK, Sam, well, we the panel are going to go with Sir Mick Jagger.

0:06:12 > 0:06:14That's what the panel think.

0:06:14 > 0:06:16Have they managed to convince you?

0:06:16 > 0:06:18I'm convinced. You are?

0:06:18 > 0:06:21Yeah. Let's stick with Mick Jagger.

0:06:21 > 0:06:25OK, you're going with the panel for the second time.

0:06:25 > 0:06:27Is it Mick Jagger for ?200?

0:06:33 > 0:06:37It is Mick Jagger! APPLAUSE

0:06:37 > 0:06:38Thank you.

0:06:38 > 0:06:41Well done. Awesome.

0:06:41 > 0:06:42And we have evidence of this,

0:06:42 > 0:06:46here is Mick Jagger after receiving his knighthood.

0:06:46 > 0:06:47There he is. Ooh, nice scarf!

0:06:47 > 0:06:50That's his dad and two daughters, how cute is that?

0:06:50 > 0:06:51That is a cute picture.

0:06:51 > 0:06:54Now we know where Mick gets the mouth from. That's brilliant.

0:06:54 > 0:06:56He was knighted in 2003.

0:06:56 > 0:07:01You were right, Angellica, Brian May has a PhD in astrophysics.

0:07:01 > 0:07:05Well done, well played. 100%. Two out of two.

0:07:05 > 0:07:09And that means, at the end of Round One, you've ?400 in the prize pot.

0:07:09 > 0:07:13APPLAUSE Awesome, thank you.

0:07:13 > 0:07:16So we pause now, Sam, and we look at our panel.

0:07:16 > 0:07:18How do you think they've performed so far?

0:07:18 > 0:07:20Top of the class. Ten out of ten.

0:07:20 > 0:07:22Yeah? Could not be happier.

0:07:22 > 0:07:25OK, well, look, let's see how they cope with pictures.

0:07:25 > 0:07:26It is time for Round Two.

0:07:30 > 0:07:32OK, Sam, Round Two is our picture round.

0:07:32 > 0:07:36All you have to do is put these three pictures in the correct order.

0:07:36 > 0:07:38Two questions in this round,

0:07:38 > 0:07:42the money goes up to ?300 for every correct answer, so best of luck.

0:07:42 > 0:07:43Have a look at this.

0:08:04 > 0:08:08That smile is a nervous smile, Sam, I can tell. It really is.

0:08:08 > 0:08:11I really don't know when Catherine the Great was from,

0:08:11 > 0:08:13she's the one I'll have to leave until last.

0:08:13 > 0:08:14I probably think it's...

0:08:14 > 0:08:17Oliver Cromwell, then Napoleon and Catherine would be either...

0:08:18 > 0:08:20Either the end or the front.

0:08:20 > 0:08:24Our panel will no doubt sort this out. Come on, Jennie.

0:08:24 > 0:08:27Don't need to worry(!) Panel, your debate starts now.

0:08:27 > 0:08:30I think Oliver Cromwell was before Napoleon Bonaparte.

0:08:30 > 0:08:33Oliver Cromwell was Roundheads and Cavaliers, wasn't he? Yeah.

0:08:33 > 0:08:36And Oliver Cromwell was Duke of Wellington, weren't he? Yeah.

0:08:36 > 0:08:39Waterloo. Yeah, yeah.

0:08:39 > 0:08:42Battle of Waterloo, so... 1700s, would you say?

0:08:42 > 0:08:43I'm not sure on dates.

0:08:45 > 0:08:47So would you say maybe...

0:08:47 > 0:08:49Catherine first?

0:08:49 > 0:08:52What sort of era of Russia was she involved in?

0:08:52 > 0:08:55I've been to the Catherine Palace, which is near Saint Petersburg,

0:08:55 > 0:08:56which I imagine was hers.

0:08:56 > 0:08:59But actually we couldn't get in because... Ohh!

0:08:59 > 0:09:01No, I was there with the Queen and we were late

0:09:01 > 0:09:04and then the guard said, "Nyet! Nyet, you cannot come in."

0:09:04 > 0:09:07So we the reporters sort of puddled around the outside in the snow

0:09:07 > 0:09:08and she was in there.

0:09:08 > 0:09:11I peeked in the windows. And if that's the right palace...

0:09:11 > 0:09:13And what kind of furniture was in there? Well, I would sort of say,

0:09:13 > 0:09:17like, salon...Regency...? I don't know.

0:09:17 > 0:09:21Louis XVI? 1800s, something like that?

0:09:21 > 0:09:23From my great knowledge(!) So then maybe...

0:09:23 > 0:09:25Maybe 18th century.

0:09:25 > 0:09:28I think Oliver Cromwell, definitely very, very ancient, yeah?

0:09:28 > 0:09:29Yeah. God knows what century.

0:09:29 > 0:09:32So, Napoleon? We're pretty sure Oliver's over there.

0:09:32 > 0:09:34Oliver's old.

0:09:34 > 0:09:36What do you think?

0:09:36 > 0:09:38I think she could be first. Yeah.

0:09:38 > 0:09:40What, even before Ollie? Before Ollie?

0:09:40 > 0:09:43See, this is... Ollie's really old though, wasn't he?

0:09:43 > 0:09:45Maybe we should go, Ollie, that, that.

0:09:46 > 0:09:49What do you think, Jennie? You are the oracle.

0:09:49 > 0:09:50I think she might belong up there.

0:09:50 > 0:09:52But, no, I'm going to go...

0:09:52 > 0:09:55What's she wearing, does that give it away?

0:09:55 > 0:09:59Well... I would say that was sort of 1800s.

0:09:59 > 0:10:01And that looks older to me.

0:10:01 > 0:10:03To me, but I don't know.

0:10:03 > 0:10:05You decide.

0:10:05 > 0:10:08Oh, no, I have to decide? Yeah.

0:10:08 > 0:10:10We don't know, by the way, Sam. You might have guessed.

0:10:10 > 0:10:13Because we don't know, we have to just take... OK. OK.

0:10:13 > 0:10:14There you go.

0:10:14 > 0:10:16I'm really taking a big risk here,

0:10:16 > 0:10:20but the panel has decided that it is Cromwell first,

0:10:20 > 0:10:23then Bonaparte,

0:10:23 > 0:10:24then Catherine the Great.

0:10:27 > 0:10:29Any help? Actually, I was thinking what is she wearing,

0:10:29 > 0:10:32because that could tell us what era she's from.

0:10:32 > 0:10:35See, what she's wearing there reminds me kind of Henry VIII,

0:10:35 > 0:10:38the sort of feathery, ruffly thing he had on.

0:10:39 > 0:10:42So, I'm just going to go against everything you've all said,

0:10:42 > 0:10:47and I'm going to go with Catherine the Great first,

0:10:47 > 0:10:49then Cromwell and then Bonaparte.

0:10:49 > 0:10:51Based on clothes.

0:10:51 > 0:10:54You're going against our panel.

0:10:54 > 0:10:55Is this the correct order for ?300?

0:11:02 > 0:11:04It's not. AUDIENCE GROANS

0:11:04 > 0:11:06No! I'm sorry, Sam.

0:11:06 > 0:11:08Let's have a little look at the correct order.

0:11:10 > 0:11:12Oh! Would you...?!

0:11:12 > 0:11:13Oliver Cromwell.

0:11:13 > 0:11:15Catherine the Great. You were right!

0:11:15 > 0:11:18Then Napoleon Bonaparte.

0:11:18 > 0:11:19So the panel also wrong.

0:11:19 > 0:11:24Oliver Cromwell born in 1599, Catherine the Great, 1729,

0:11:24 > 0:11:27Napoleon Bonaparte, 1769.

0:11:27 > 0:11:30JENNIE: Aw, it was close, it was close!

0:11:30 > 0:11:32Unfortunately, no money for that

0:11:32 > 0:11:35but you still have ?400 in your prize pot.

0:11:35 > 0:11:36APPLAUSE

0:11:39 > 0:11:41Let's have a little look at your second picture question,

0:11:41 > 0:11:44see if we can get another 300 in there for you.

0:12:02 > 0:12:04What's your first thoughts, then?

0:12:04 > 0:12:05Hmm.

0:12:06 > 0:12:08Leaning towards Big Brother as the earliest,

0:12:08 > 0:12:10just because that's the first one I remember watching.

0:12:10 > 0:12:13Not Celebrity Big Brother, but the normal Big Brother.

0:12:15 > 0:12:16Maybe I'm A Celebrity after that,

0:12:16 > 0:12:18because there's been millions of them.

0:12:18 > 0:12:20Yeah...

0:12:20 > 0:12:22Luckily, we've got some people on the panel

0:12:22 > 0:12:24who might know a bit more about this. OK.

0:12:25 > 0:12:29If only we had someone who danced on Strictly,

0:12:29 > 0:12:32someone who maybe was King of the Jungle

0:12:32 > 0:12:34that could quickly sort this out.

0:12:34 > 0:12:36Panel, your debate starts now.

0:12:36 > 0:12:38Remember that, it's Celebrity Big Brother.

0:12:38 > 0:12:41So Big Brother started way before Celebrity Big Brother.

0:12:41 > 0:12:43I would have said Big Brother beforehand,

0:12:43 > 0:12:45but you're right, Celebrity Big Brother.

0:12:45 > 0:12:47Didn't come about straight away.

0:12:47 > 0:12:49I was robbed on Strictly Come Dancing, by the way.

0:12:49 > 0:12:52How did you do? My paso doble was to die for.

0:12:52 > 0:12:54It was amazing. I watched it, yeah.

0:12:54 > 0:12:55So I'm in the presence of greatness?

0:12:55 > 0:12:58You've done both. You've done Strictly and the jungle.

0:12:58 > 0:13:00You've done... I've done the jungle. The jungle, yeah.

0:13:00 > 0:13:02And I remember, after coming out of the jungle,

0:13:02 > 0:13:05being asked to do Strictly, and I remember it feeling...

0:13:05 > 0:13:08It was very new then, so that was 2004.

0:13:08 > 0:13:11I think between Strictly and I'm A Celebrity, it's really close.

0:13:11 > 0:13:13I would probably say I'm A Celebrity came first.

0:13:13 > 0:13:16Out of all of them? Remember, you were in the jungle.

0:13:16 > 0:13:17Yes, was Strictly on then?

0:13:17 > 0:13:19I don't know. Who won the first Strictly?

0:13:19 > 0:13:21Who won the first Strictly?

0:13:21 > 0:13:23Natasha Kaplinsky? Right! Was it?

0:13:23 > 0:13:26Yes, it was. So what does that mean?

0:13:26 > 0:13:28I don't know. I don't know! LAUGHTER

0:13:28 > 0:13:33But she's kind of, Natasha Kaplinsky...

0:13:33 > 0:13:34And Brendan.

0:13:34 > 0:13:36..and Brendan...

0:13:36 > 0:13:38before Tony Blackburn.

0:13:40 > 0:13:41I really am stuck on this.

0:13:41 > 0:13:44I'm veering towards Strictly first and then I'm A Celeb.

0:13:44 > 0:13:45And what do you think?

0:13:47 > 0:13:49Go with it, let's do Strictly.

0:13:49 > 0:13:51Strictly first.

0:13:51 > 0:13:53Go on. Something like that, are we happy?

0:13:54 > 0:13:59The panel has decided that Strictly, by a very narrow margin, came first.

0:13:59 > 0:14:02Then I'm A Celeb and then Celebrity Big Brother.

0:14:03 > 0:14:05There we go.

0:14:05 > 0:14:09You've heard what the panel have to say, but what do you think?

0:14:09 > 0:14:11I...

0:14:11 > 0:14:14feel that Strictly was perhaps a little bit later.

0:14:14 > 0:14:16I'm going to probably regret this,

0:14:16 > 0:14:19but I'm going to try I'm A Celebrity as the earliest,

0:14:19 > 0:14:22followed by Celebrity Big Brother, and then Strictly Come Dancing.

0:14:22 > 0:14:23Ooh, yes. I like that.

0:14:25 > 0:14:27OK.

0:14:27 > 0:14:29Mixing it up a little bit, going against your first thought,

0:14:29 > 0:14:31going against the panel.

0:14:31 > 0:14:35For ?300, Sam, is that the correct order?

0:14:43 > 0:14:46AUDIENCE GROANS

0:14:46 > 0:14:47It's the wrong order, Sam.

0:14:47 > 0:14:50Tricky. Here we go, let's have a look at the correct order.

0:14:52 > 0:14:56Celebrity Big Brother was the very first show. Sorry, Sam!

0:14:56 > 0:14:59Then I'm A Celebrity, Get Me Out Of Here.

0:14:59 > 0:15:02And then Strictly Come Dancing.

0:15:02 > 0:15:052001, the first Celebrity Big Brother was for Comic Relief.

0:15:05 > 0:15:08And Jack Dee won that in 2001.

0:15:08 > 0:15:11Then I'm A Celebrity, 2002.

0:15:11 > 0:15:13You were right, Tony Blackburn was King of the Jungle there.

0:15:13 > 0:15:16Then Strictly Come Dancing in 2004,

0:15:16 > 0:15:20and Natasha Kaplinsky was the first winner of Strictly Come Dancing.

0:15:20 > 0:15:22Unfortunately, our panel were wrong,

0:15:22 > 0:15:26you were also wrong on that one, nothing added to the prize pot,

0:15:26 > 0:15:28it means, at the end of Round Two,

0:15:28 > 0:15:30you're still on ?400.

0:15:30 > 0:15:31APPLAUSE

0:15:34 > 0:15:37There's still ?1,000 up for grabs as we play Round Three.

0:15:40 > 0:15:43OK, Sam, in this round, you will face questions

0:15:43 > 0:15:46that contain three statements which relate to a person,

0:15:46 > 0:15:50a place or a thing, but only one of those statements is true.

0:15:50 > 0:15:51You have to decide which one.

0:15:51 > 0:15:53Now, there are two questions in this round,

0:15:53 > 0:15:56it is our final round, so we're going to up the cash to ?500

0:15:56 > 0:15:59for each correct answer. ?1,000 in total.

0:15:59 > 0:16:02Come on, panel, let's see if we get this money up. Here we go.

0:16:02 > 0:16:03Here we go.

0:16:24 > 0:16:26Anything jumping out there, Sam?

0:16:26 > 0:16:27I'm leaning towards C,

0:16:27 > 0:16:30that seems like the most in line with my thoughts at the moment.

0:16:30 > 0:16:32OK, you're leaning towards C.

0:16:32 > 0:16:34Panel, your debate starts now.

0:16:34 > 0:16:36I think, I remember seeing,

0:16:36 > 0:16:39thinking I can't believe he was born that late -

0:16:39 > 0:16:42was he born in 1882 or 1881?

0:16:42 > 0:16:45Could have been something like that. He died...

0:16:45 > 0:16:47That's just come into my head because I remember looking up,

0:16:47 > 0:16:50going, I didn't realise he was that old.

0:16:50 > 0:16:53There's black-and-white photos of him, like, in the '30s.

0:16:53 > 0:16:58Yeah. I think he was born in 1881, '82, I don't know.

0:16:58 > 0:17:01I didn't think he was an Impressionist at all. No, he wasn't.

0:17:01 > 0:17:04And Green Period... He had a Blue Period.

0:17:04 > 0:17:06He had a Blue Period. And a Rose one.

0:17:06 > 0:17:07Well, you know about art.

0:17:07 > 0:17:09I do, that's right. But I'm not quite sure when he was born.

0:17:09 > 0:17:11What do you paint?

0:17:11 > 0:17:14I do lots of circles, and sort of... No, I do abstracts.

0:17:14 > 0:17:15Do you? Yes, yes.

0:17:15 > 0:17:17Does yours all have deep meaning?

0:17:17 > 0:17:20Yes, it's like a whirling window into my soul.

0:17:20 > 0:17:22LAUGHTER

0:17:22 > 0:17:24OK, what are we thinking? I'm thinking...

0:17:24 > 0:17:26Born in the 19th century? Yes.

0:17:26 > 0:17:27I think born in the 19th century.

0:17:27 > 0:17:30Yeah, we agree? Yeah. Right, we're solid on that one, OK.

0:17:30 > 0:17:33Right, panel is unanimous on this one,

0:17:33 > 0:17:36Sam, we think he was definitely born in the 19th century.

0:17:39 > 0:17:41Anything there to make you change your mind?

0:17:41 > 0:17:44For Angellica to have such a specific date in mind,

0:17:44 > 0:17:46then I would trust that instinct,

0:17:46 > 0:17:49because that's obviously come from some knowledge somewhere.

0:17:49 > 0:17:50So I'm going to agree with the panel.

0:17:50 > 0:17:52Let's go for C.

0:17:52 > 0:17:53OK.

0:17:53 > 0:17:56You're going to agree with the panel.

0:17:56 > 0:18:01Was Picasso born in the 19th century, for ?500?

0:18:06 > 0:18:09Yes! He was. APPLAUSE

0:18:09 > 0:18:10Well done!

0:18:10 > 0:18:12Awesome, thank you.

0:18:12 > 0:18:15And, Angellica, he WAS born in 1881.

0:18:15 > 0:18:17Wow! Very well played.

0:18:17 > 0:18:20There he is, Phil, there's a black-and-white picture of him.

0:18:20 > 0:18:24He actually died in 1973. That's right, yeah. Wow.

0:18:24 > 0:18:28He had a long old life. He co-founded Cubism.

0:18:28 > 0:18:30Impressionism originated in the 1860s,

0:18:30 > 0:18:34before Picasso was born, so you were right about that.

0:18:34 > 0:18:37His main phases were a Blue Period and a Rose Period. Wow.

0:18:37 > 0:18:40The late Robin Williams - did you know this...?

0:18:40 > 0:18:43He received a Picasso worth $1 million from Disney

0:18:43 > 0:18:46as an apology for Disney contravening

0:18:46 > 0:18:51the terms of his contract when he played the Genie in Aladdin. Wow.

0:18:51 > 0:18:53Really? Yes. Nice.

0:18:53 > 0:18:56And when the BBC contravened my contract for this show,

0:18:56 > 0:18:58I got a painting...

0:18:58 > 0:18:59done by Phil Tufnell.

0:18:59 > 0:19:01LAUGHTER

0:19:02 > 0:19:07OK, ?500 into the prize pot, you're up now to ?900.

0:19:07 > 0:19:08APPLAUSE

0:19:10 > 0:19:14OK, let's see if we can get this up to 1,400, guys.

0:19:14 > 0:19:16Here comes your next question, Sam.

0:19:41 > 0:19:43It's a question of sport, Sam.

0:19:46 > 0:19:49At the moment, veering towards...

0:19:51 > 0:19:53..C.

0:19:53 > 0:19:56Panel, what can we do with this? Your debate starts now.

0:19:56 > 0:19:58Right, if I'm in goal,

0:19:58 > 0:20:02if I'm in goal, I'm six foot and I stand there and I go like that

0:20:02 > 0:20:04and I can touch the goal.

0:20:04 > 0:20:08So the table is less than that? All right, OK.

0:20:08 > 0:20:08I'm not sure.

0:20:08 > 0:20:12I've done a film for The One Show about table tennis. Yes?

0:20:12 > 0:20:16And I do believe the bats have to be different colours

0:20:16 > 0:20:18for a certain reason and I...

0:20:18 > 0:20:21Flim-flam, I thought... I think it's ping-pong.

0:20:21 > 0:20:24So I don't think flim-flam. I think it's C.

0:20:24 > 0:20:27The table length less... The table's about this long.

0:20:27 > 0:20:29I think, yes.

0:20:29 > 0:20:31Yeah, table tennis table is about this long.

0:20:31 > 0:20:35Do you want to lie on this? Can do.

0:20:35 > 0:20:37Is it sturdy? Yeah, go on. OK.

0:20:37 > 0:20:39Now we've got to play table tennis.

0:20:39 > 0:20:41Hold on. Right, hold on.

0:20:41 > 0:20:42I've got a board at home.

0:20:42 > 0:20:46What, are you having your hand up? Yes, because that's the crossbar.

0:20:46 > 0:20:48Oh, it's right up there is it? Yes. Where's that?

0:20:48 > 0:20:50Well, that's there.

0:20:50 > 0:20:52Oh, right, so it might be longer.

0:20:52 > 0:20:54It might be longer. It might be longer.

0:20:54 > 0:20:58I think the table tennis table is longer than what you just did.

0:20:58 > 0:21:01Yes. OK, yes, that's fair enough then.

0:21:01 > 0:21:04Do you think so? Because a table tennis table is about that long.

0:21:04 > 0:21:07And flim-flam? What we think about flim-flam? Ping-pong.

0:21:07 > 0:21:09Forrest Gump. I can remember Forrest Gump...

0:21:09 > 0:21:10What, saying flim-flam?

0:21:10 > 0:21:13Yes, I can remember Forrest Gump saying flim-flam. Do you?

0:21:13 > 0:21:15So it could be kind of an American... ..Ism.

0:21:15 > 0:21:17I think it's C.

0:21:17 > 0:21:20OK, and you've done... I've got a feeling it's B.

0:21:20 > 0:21:22Oh, no. Oh, no.

0:21:22 > 0:21:24I've got a feeling it's B.

0:21:24 > 0:21:26I just think ping-pong...

0:21:26 > 0:21:28It is ping-pong.

0:21:28 > 0:21:30But flim-flam.

0:21:30 > 0:21:32I think C. What do you think?

0:21:32 > 0:21:33C. What do you think?

0:21:33 > 0:21:35B. Oh, gosh.

0:21:35 > 0:21:36Well, we'll go with the majority, OK?

0:21:36 > 0:21:39So, Sam, we're not totally convinced on this one,

0:21:39 > 0:21:41but we're going to go with C.

0:21:43 > 0:21:46So after that scientific demonstration from Phil...

0:21:46 > 0:21:47LAUGHTER

0:21:47 > 0:21:50..we need an answer. OK.

0:21:50 > 0:21:52So, I was convinced it was going to be C until you did the measuring,

0:21:52 > 0:21:55which completely convinced me that it's not C.

0:21:55 > 0:21:59JENNIE: Oh, really? Oh, no. Oh, no!

0:21:59 > 0:22:01And out of the other two,

0:22:01 > 0:22:03I think flim-flam is going to be the most likely one.

0:22:03 > 0:22:05You're going for...?

0:22:05 > 0:22:07B. Flim-flam.

0:22:07 > 0:22:10OK, we've locked it in.

0:22:10 > 0:22:13Has Forrest Gump come up for us?

0:22:13 > 0:22:16Is flim-flam the correct answer, for ?500?

0:22:16 > 0:22:17Oh, no...

0:22:17 > 0:22:18Please!

0:22:24 > 0:22:27It is! APPLAUSE

0:22:31 > 0:22:32Awesome work, nice one.

0:22:32 > 0:22:33Very well played.

0:22:33 > 0:22:35The game was invented in England,

0:22:35 > 0:22:38in the early days of the 20th century,

0:22:38 > 0:22:41and was known under a number of different trading names

0:22:41 > 0:22:45including ping-pong, whiff-whaff and flim-flam.

0:22:45 > 0:22:48A table tennis table is nine feet long. Wow.

0:22:48 > 0:22:50And a goal post is eight feet tall.

0:22:51 > 0:22:53Both sides must be a different colour,

0:22:53 > 0:22:55you were right about that, Angellica. Well done.

0:22:55 > 0:22:58At the end of Round Three, you're up to ?1,400.

0:22:58 > 0:23:00APPLAUSE

0:23:02 > 0:23:05And, Sam, that's the amount you're going to be playing for today in our Final Debate.

0:23:05 > 0:23:09Now, if you win that money, any plans for it?

0:23:09 > 0:23:11Yep, I'm going to put it towards

0:23:11 > 0:23:13a yoga teacher training course in Bali.

0:23:15 > 0:23:16Nice!

0:23:16 > 0:23:19If you can get us to Bali for 1,400 quid, we're all coming.

0:23:22 > 0:23:25There's just one question that stands between you and that 1,400,

0:23:25 > 0:23:27and that is today's Final Debate.

0:23:27 > 0:23:30Now, in the Final Debate, you're going to face one question,

0:23:30 > 0:23:32there's going to be six possible answers,

0:23:32 > 0:23:34and we need the three correct answers.

0:23:34 > 0:23:36You're not going to be playing alone.

0:23:36 > 0:23:40You're going to choose one of these fine panellists to play with you,

0:23:40 > 0:23:43and then you and your celeb will have 45 seconds on the clock

0:23:43 > 0:23:44to answer the question.

0:23:44 > 0:23:49So, based on our performance so far, who would you like to join you?

0:23:49 > 0:23:53It's tricky, but I think due to my deficit,

0:23:53 > 0:23:57knowledge in sports, and the fact it would probably be a sports question,

0:23:57 > 0:23:59I'll go with Phil, if that's OK?

0:23:59 > 0:24:03Phil, can you please join us as we play today's Final Debate.

0:24:03 > 0:24:05APPLAUSE

0:24:06 > 0:24:10OK, Phil, Sam has chosen you for today's Final Debate. Yes!

0:24:10 > 0:24:12You're smiling, you're ready to go.

0:24:12 > 0:24:14Ready to go. OK, Sam, it is your Final Debate,

0:24:14 > 0:24:17so we're going to give you two categories to choose from... Come on, be kind.

0:24:17 > 0:24:19..which one of these do you fancy?

0:24:21 > 0:24:23PHIL GROANS

0:24:24 > 0:24:26Oh, no.

0:24:26 > 0:24:27Why did you pick me?

0:24:27 > 0:24:30LAUGHTER

0:24:30 > 0:24:34What do you fancy? Politics, for me, is really ropey.

0:24:34 > 0:24:37Music is slightly stronger. How about you?

0:24:37 > 0:24:39Not two of me strongest, sorry darling.

0:24:39 > 0:24:40But come on, confident. OK.

0:24:42 > 0:24:43Music.

0:24:43 > 0:24:45You're going for music?

0:24:45 > 0:24:46Let's lock it in.

0:24:47 > 0:24:49OK, Sam. Come on.

0:24:49 > 0:24:551,400 up for grabs, here is today's 45 second Final Debate question.

0:25:24 > 0:25:28Ah, they're all up there. So, Sam and Phil, for the final time today,

0:25:28 > 0:25:30your 45 second debate starts now.

0:25:30 > 0:25:32Right, here we go.

0:25:32 > 0:25:34So, towards the end of the song, it gets harder and harder, right?

0:25:34 > 0:25:37Yeah. The ones I least recognise... # 12 lords a-leaping... #

0:25:37 > 0:25:39I think that's pretty high.

0:25:40 > 0:25:41# Maids a-milking

0:25:41 > 0:25:43# The first day of Christmas... #

0:25:43 > 0:25:45I can't go through the whole lot, we ain't got time. No.

0:25:45 > 0:25:48Drummers drumming. I think geese a-laying are lower down.

0:25:48 > 0:25:49Yes, geese a-laying lower down.

0:25:49 > 0:25:52Pipers piping, maids a-milking's lower down, I think.

0:25:52 > 0:25:55Is it ladies dancing, lords a-leaping, pipers piping?

0:25:55 > 0:25:58I think pipers, because I don't remember that at all.

0:25:58 > 0:26:00And you always forget by the time you get to...

0:26:00 > 0:26:03# 12 pipers piping... # I can't think about it. 15 seconds.

0:26:03 > 0:26:06Pipers piping? Drummers drumming? # Drummers drumming... #

0:26:06 > 0:26:08I think ladies dancing is near geese.

0:26:08 > 0:26:09Is it? No?

0:26:09 > 0:26:11Lords is up there.

0:26:11 > 0:26:14I think that's what we agree on. Pipers piping is another one.

0:26:14 > 0:26:16Yeah. The drummers or ladies?

0:26:16 > 0:26:18Time is up.

0:26:18 > 0:26:20Sam, I need three answers.

0:26:20 > 0:26:22Lords a-leaping.

0:26:22 > 0:26:23Pipers piping.

0:26:26 > 0:26:28Ladies dancing.

0:26:28 > 0:26:32So we've locked in lords a-leaping, pipers piping,

0:26:32 > 0:26:34ladies dancing.

0:26:34 > 0:26:38If they are the three correct answers, you win the money, ?1,400.

0:26:38 > 0:26:41If one of them's wrong, I'm afraid you do leave with nothing.

0:26:41 > 0:26:42Best of luck. Here we go.

0:26:43 > 0:26:46First up, lords a-leaping.

0:26:46 > 0:26:47Is that a correct answer?

0:26:52 > 0:26:54It is. APPLAUSE

0:26:56 > 0:26:57Well done.

0:26:57 > 0:26:59There were ten lords a-leaping.

0:27:00 > 0:27:02Then you said pipers piping.

0:27:02 > 0:27:07Is pipers piping one of the highest number in Twelve Days Of Christmas?

0:27:15 > 0:27:17APPLAUSE

0:27:18 > 0:27:21It's drummers. It's all this "Is it drummers or ladies?"

0:27:21 > 0:27:24Well done, there were 11 pipers piping.

0:27:25 > 0:27:28So it all comes down to this, to ladies dancing.

0:27:28 > 0:27:31You weren't sure between drummers or ladies.

0:27:31 > 0:27:35If it is ladies dancing, it's ?1,400.

0:27:35 > 0:27:38Fingers and toes crossed, here we go.

0:27:38 > 0:27:42Is ladies dancing one of the highest number in Twelve Days Of Christmas,

0:27:42 > 0:27:43for ?1,400?

0:27:54 > 0:27:56AUDIENCE GROANS

0:27:56 > 0:27:57It's drummers, isn't it? It's drummers!

0:27:57 > 0:28:00Nine ladies dancing.

0:28:00 > 0:28:02The correct answer was...

0:28:02 > 0:28:04drummers drumming.

0:28:04 > 0:28:05It was the highest number,

0:28:05 > 0:28:09there were 12 drummers drumming in The Twelve Days Of Christmas.

0:28:09 > 0:28:11I'm so, so sorry. You were so close!

0:28:11 > 0:28:12Hard luck. You were so close,

0:28:12 > 0:28:14but thank you so much for coming in and playing.

0:28:14 > 0:28:16Give it up one more time for Sam.

0:28:16 > 0:28:18APPLAUSE

0:28:19 > 0:28:21That is it for Debatable.

0:28:21 > 0:28:23There's just enough time for me to thank a fantastic panel.

0:28:23 > 0:28:27To Phil Tufnell, to Jennie Bond and Angellica Bell.

0:28:27 > 0:28:28APPLAUSE

0:28:29 > 0:28:33I do hope you've enjoyed watching, we will see you next time for more heated debates.

0:28:33 > 0:28:35For now, it's goodbye from me.