Episode 11

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0:00:09 > 0:00:11APPLAUSE

0:00:13 > 0:00:15Hello and welcome to Debatable,

0:00:15 > 0:00:18the quiz show that proves when it comes to celebrity chat

0:00:18 > 0:00:21you can never get too much of a good thing.

0:00:21 > 0:00:24Today our panel of celebrities will try to help one contestant

0:00:24 > 0:00:27debate their way to a ?2,000 jackpot,

0:00:27 > 0:00:30but will they help or will they hinder?

0:00:30 > 0:00:32That's Debatable. So, let's meet them.

0:00:34 > 0:00:37On today's show we have comedian Susan Calman,

0:00:37 > 0:00:40entrepreneur Peter Jones

0:00:40 > 0:00:42and hip-hop artist and writer Akala.

0:00:42 > 0:00:44APPLAUSE

0:00:46 > 0:00:48That's the panel. Let's see who's playing today.

0:00:48 > 0:00:51It is Suda Perera from Croydon.

0:00:51 > 0:00:53APPLAUSE

0:00:53 > 0:00:55Hi, Suda. Hi, Paddy. How are you doing?

0:00:55 > 0:00:56Very well, thank you. Welcome to the show.

0:00:56 > 0:00:59Thank you very much. Tell us a little bit about yourself.

0:00:59 > 0:01:03So, I'm 29, I'm from Croydon. I've got a husband called Paul.

0:01:03 > 0:01:06We're newlyweds, just got married a few months ago...

0:01:06 > 0:01:07Congratulations.

0:01:07 > 0:01:10..and I'm a research fellow at the University of Birmingham.

0:01:10 > 0:01:12I see. Yeah. What do we make of our panel today, Suda?

0:01:12 > 0:01:15You can tell the truth, we haven't started.

0:01:15 > 0:01:18My husband's going to be really jealous that I get to meet Akala,

0:01:18 > 0:01:20because he is a massive, massive fan.

0:01:20 > 0:01:22Would you like the rest of us to just leave?

0:01:22 > 0:01:24We can just go at this point.

0:01:25 > 0:01:28OK, let's see how this goes,

0:01:28 > 0:01:32let's get this Debatable show on the road, Suda, as we play Round One.

0:01:34 > 0:01:36Suda, this round is multiple choice.

0:01:36 > 0:01:40Each question has four possible answers, but only one is correct.

0:01:40 > 0:01:44Helping you find the correct answer is our panel.

0:01:44 > 0:01:48Will you go your own way, or will you go with what they say?

0:01:48 > 0:01:49It's entirely up to you.

0:01:49 > 0:01:53Two questions in this round, ?200 for each correct answer.

0:01:53 > 0:01:56Ready to play? Yes. Here we go. Here it comes.

0:01:56 > 0:01:57Question one.

0:02:15 > 0:02:18I'd like to hear what the panel think.

0:02:18 > 0:02:21I'm sort of leaning towards one way but I'm not at all sure,

0:02:21 > 0:02:23so I'll wait to say.

0:02:23 > 0:02:25I'm sure we can sort this out very easily, panel.

0:02:25 > 0:02:27The debate starts now.

0:02:27 > 0:02:29OK, raccoons...

0:02:29 > 0:02:32Not indigenous to this country,

0:02:32 > 0:02:36so I've not encountered a group of raccoons in my street. No.

0:02:37 > 0:02:41Bearing in mind they used to name groups of animals

0:02:41 > 0:02:46far before modern nomenclature and college is slightly more modern,

0:02:46 > 0:02:50I'm leaning towards an academy or a nursery.

0:02:50 > 0:02:52I'm with you, the same.

0:02:52 > 0:02:54I'm definitely down to academy and nursery. Yes.

0:02:54 > 0:02:58Why would you call a group of animals an academy? No.

0:02:58 > 0:03:00That's more of an academic thing,

0:03:00 > 0:03:03and you are not judging the intelligence

0:03:03 > 0:03:05of the animals, are you? So, a nursery?

0:03:05 > 0:03:07What d'you think?

0:03:07 > 0:03:09I'm not sure I can write college off so easily. No?

0:03:09 > 0:03:12I was torn between nursery and college.

0:03:12 > 0:03:15So, a college of raccoons or a nursery of raccoons.

0:03:15 > 0:03:17They both sound better than school or academy.

0:03:17 > 0:03:19They do, so we can forget them.

0:03:19 > 0:03:21I think it is more likely to be a nursery,

0:03:21 > 0:03:24partly because I think they look adorable,

0:03:24 > 0:03:25and I know that's a silly reason.

0:03:25 > 0:03:27I'm just going with my gut,

0:03:27 > 0:03:30but I think college is a more modern representation than a nursery

0:03:30 > 0:03:34which is when the old-time explorers would have seen a group of them

0:03:34 > 0:03:36and gone, "That looks like a nursery."

0:03:36 > 0:03:37PETER: I feel it's a nursery,

0:03:37 > 0:03:39because college I still think is educational. Yes.

0:03:39 > 0:03:42Well, the panel think that the word that best describes

0:03:42 > 0:03:44a group of raccoons is "nursery".

0:03:46 > 0:03:49So, Suda, any help?

0:03:49 > 0:03:52I was kind of between academy and college,

0:03:52 > 0:03:57and to be honest I was going to go towards college,

0:03:57 > 0:04:00on the grounds that... something Susan said,

0:04:00 > 0:04:02they are not indigenous to the UK,

0:04:02 > 0:04:07and I associate raccoons with North America and the US.

0:04:07 > 0:04:12Good point. I sort of think college is more a US thing than academy.

0:04:13 > 0:04:14I'm going to really regret it,

0:04:14 > 0:04:17but I'm going to overrule the panel

0:04:17 > 0:04:20and I'm going to go with college of raccoons.

0:04:20 > 0:04:21Oh, no!

0:04:23 > 0:04:25So, Akala did suggest college. Yeah.

0:04:25 > 0:04:28I think that sort of swayed me.

0:04:28 > 0:04:32Let's see - for ?200, you are going for college,

0:04:32 > 0:04:36our panel have said nursery. The correct answer is...

0:04:41 > 0:04:42It was nursery!

0:04:42 > 0:04:47You should have gone with the panel. I should have listened to Susan.

0:04:47 > 0:04:49Don't listen to me! I know I'm not one of your favourites!

0:04:49 > 0:04:52That is very clear, that I'm not your favourite on this panel,

0:04:52 > 0:04:54but I have your best interests at heart, Suda. Yeah.

0:04:55 > 0:04:59Unfortunately, nothing in the prize pot. Yeah.

0:04:59 > 0:05:01There's still loads of cash up there.

0:05:01 > 0:05:03Let's see if we can get some cash in the prize pot

0:05:03 > 0:05:05with your next question. Here it comes, Suda.

0:05:24 > 0:05:26Scrabble fan? Yes.

0:05:26 > 0:05:28My grandad was a massive Scrabble nut.

0:05:28 > 0:05:31He, in fact, wrote a book on Scrabble,

0:05:31 > 0:05:34so I grew up playing a lot of Scrabble.

0:05:34 > 0:05:39I think I know the chemical symbols for each one of those.

0:05:39 > 0:05:42Which are? So, PB for lead,

0:05:42 > 0:05:44AG for silver,

0:05:44 > 0:05:47FE for iron and PT for platinum.

0:05:47 > 0:05:50So, now it is a case of doing maths in my head,

0:05:50 > 0:05:52which is not a strong point!

0:05:52 > 0:05:54OK, while you are thinking about it,

0:05:54 > 0:05:57our panel, I'm sure, will come to the answer on this

0:05:57 > 0:05:58very quickly, Peter. Yes.

0:05:58 > 0:06:00The debate starts now.

0:06:00 > 0:06:02PETER: I'm more of a Monopoly guy myself.

0:06:02 > 0:06:04I've sort of blacked out Scrabble,

0:06:04 > 0:06:07cos my mum used to make me play it as punishment.

0:06:07 > 0:06:09Platinum is PB...

0:06:09 > 0:06:11Are they both high-scoring letters? I think they are.

0:06:11 > 0:06:15I think P is four or five, and B is a three or a four. Lead was...

0:06:15 > 0:06:16Silver is AG.

0:06:16 > 0:06:20Silver is AG. So, that's a low score. That's a low scorer.

0:06:20 > 0:06:21That's going to be four or five.

0:06:21 > 0:06:23AKALA: I did well in my science GCSEs at school,

0:06:23 > 0:06:26but it makes me feel quite old that I can't remember this.

0:06:26 > 0:06:30Chemistry was not my strong point at all.

0:06:30 > 0:06:33My gut says platinum, just because...

0:06:33 > 0:06:35PETER: I'm pretty confident

0:06:35 > 0:06:38that PB is very high-scoring.

0:06:38 > 0:06:42Which is... Is that lead or platinum? PB.

0:06:42 > 0:06:43I'm pretty sure it's lead. Lead, OK.

0:06:43 > 0:06:48But if it's not lead and it is platinum, Suda will know that.

0:06:48 > 0:06:50And she'll go with the right answer, the highest score.

0:06:50 > 0:06:52Yes. Great point.

0:06:52 > 0:06:54What do you think? I agree.

0:06:54 > 0:06:56Let's do it. I agree.

0:06:56 > 0:07:00It's lead or platinum, whichever was the PB is the highest.

0:07:00 > 0:07:01I'd go with lead.

0:07:01 > 0:07:03The panel have made a decision

0:07:03 > 0:07:05that we are going to go with lead.

0:07:08 > 0:07:10So, what are you thinking?

0:07:11 > 0:07:14Now, because both lead and platinum begin with P,

0:07:14 > 0:07:18I think it is going to be higher than T.

0:07:18 > 0:07:21I think P is probably worth about three,

0:07:21 > 0:07:25and I have a feeling B is also worth about three.

0:07:27 > 0:07:33So, I am going to say lead, as well, and agree with them.

0:07:33 > 0:07:36OK, so you are agreeing with the panel. Yes.

0:07:36 > 0:07:40OK, for ?200, is lead the correct answer?

0:07:45 > 0:07:47It is the correct answer! Yay!

0:07:47 > 0:07:49Thank you!

0:07:50 > 0:07:55Well done. Lead, PB, three plus three is six.

0:08:04 > 0:08:06Very well worked out yourself.

0:08:06 > 0:08:08That is ?200 banked.

0:08:08 > 0:08:10Means at the end of Round One, ?200.

0:08:10 > 0:08:11APPLAUSE

0:08:13 > 0:08:15So this is the point of the show

0:08:15 > 0:08:17where we look at the panel for the first time.

0:08:17 > 0:08:19I should have listened to Susan on the first one,

0:08:19 > 0:08:21so I really regret not listening,

0:08:21 > 0:08:23but they've had the right answer both times.

0:08:23 > 0:08:25It's all gone now, Suda, it's a clean slate.

0:08:27 > 0:08:30So, Suda, make sure and pay close attention,

0:08:30 > 0:08:32because you can only pick one at the end of the show.

0:08:32 > 0:08:35Based on today's performance so far, who would that be?

0:08:35 > 0:08:37I think I might have to pick Susan,

0:08:37 > 0:08:40cos she has been right both times so far. So...

0:08:41 > 0:08:43And that is Susan trying to hide her smug face.

0:08:43 > 0:08:44LAUGHTER

0:08:44 > 0:08:45She is.

0:08:47 > 0:08:49Let's see how our panel cope with pictures.

0:08:49 > 0:08:51It's time for Round Two.

0:08:54 > 0:08:56OK, Suda, Round Two is our picture round.

0:08:56 > 0:09:00All you have to do is put three pictures in the correct order.

0:09:00 > 0:09:01Two questions again in this round,

0:09:01 > 0:09:04and each correct answer is now worth ?300.

0:09:04 > 0:09:05So, here we go.

0:09:20 > 0:09:21OK.

0:09:21 > 0:09:22I'm not really sure.

0:09:22 > 0:09:24I think I've got a bit of an inkling.

0:09:24 > 0:09:27All right, panel, your debate starts now.

0:09:27 > 0:09:30I am a massive Doctor Who nerd. Yes!

0:09:30 > 0:09:32I started a campaign #CalmanforDoctorWho

0:09:32 > 0:09:36to be the first female Doctor Who

0:09:36 > 0:09:37because I think it should be me.

0:09:37 > 0:09:39Just saying. Wow.

0:09:39 > 0:09:43What I do know is that Doctor Who was started, just for information,

0:09:43 > 0:09:47to get kids more interested in science.

0:09:47 > 0:09:50Which says to me it might have started before Blue Peter,

0:09:50 > 0:09:53because if they had a show like that,

0:09:53 > 0:09:57maybe they wouldn't have needed Doctor Who.

0:09:57 > 0:09:59PETER: How old do you think it is?

0:09:59 > 0:10:01Do you think '60s? Doctor Who, yes.

0:10:01 > 0:10:03Wasn't there an anniversary recently? Yeah.

0:10:03 > 0:10:05Was it the 50th? It must have been.

0:10:05 > 0:10:08It must have been... It was the '60s. That would be '66.

0:10:08 > 0:10:10'65. Something like that, yeah.

0:10:10 > 0:10:14That's the year I was born, '66. Right. So, that's 50.

0:10:14 > 0:10:16But I remember Blue Peter,

0:10:16 > 0:10:19because my sister is eight years older than me

0:10:19 > 0:10:22and I remember her talking about Blue Peter,

0:10:22 > 0:10:25so I think Blue Peter has been on longer, before I was born.

0:10:25 > 0:10:27AKALA: I've got a Blue Peter badge, by the way,

0:10:27 > 0:10:29I just want to put that out there. Have you? I have.

0:10:29 > 0:10:31What did you get that for? My company,

0:10:31 > 0:10:33The Hip-hop Shakespeare Company, performed on there.

0:10:33 > 0:10:36I gave it to my little brother, because you have to, and my nephew.

0:10:36 > 0:10:39Coronation Street, I don't know a lot about.

0:10:39 > 0:10:41I don't think that's the earliest.

0:10:41 > 0:10:44I think certainly Doctor Who and Blue Peter have been around before.

0:10:44 > 0:10:47I think that's the last one to start.

0:10:47 > 0:10:49The early Coronation Streets look better.

0:10:49 > 0:10:50I know that sounds silly.

0:10:50 > 0:10:52Were they black and white? Yeah, they are.

0:10:52 > 0:10:53They are black and white,

0:10:53 > 0:10:57the original Doctor Whos don't look particularly good.

0:10:57 > 0:11:00I think, it's just me, Coronation Street was the latest,

0:11:00 > 0:11:02and it's a toss-up between Blue Peter and Doctor Who

0:11:02 > 0:11:04as to which one was the earliest.

0:11:04 > 0:11:07PETER: I do think that Blue Peter is the oldest. Right.

0:11:07 > 0:11:11My view is it is Blue Peter, Doctor Who, Coronation Street.

0:11:11 > 0:11:13I'm happy with that.

0:11:13 > 0:11:14AKALA: Is Corrie older than 50?

0:11:14 > 0:11:17It's my nan's favourite soap.

0:11:17 > 0:11:18What's your gut saying, Peter?

0:11:18 > 0:11:20My gut tells me that you're right.

0:11:20 > 0:11:23Oh, no! I've got to go with you.

0:11:23 > 0:11:27So, the panel have decided

0:11:27 > 0:11:31the order is Blue Peter, Doctor Who, Coronation Street.

0:11:34 > 0:11:36OK, Suda.

0:11:36 > 0:11:39There's something about Coronation Street

0:11:39 > 0:11:40being the longest-running soap.

0:11:40 > 0:11:42I really like Peter's reasoning

0:11:42 > 0:11:44about remembering Doctor Who beginning

0:11:44 > 0:11:49and Blue Peter being there before, so I think that order is right.

0:11:49 > 0:11:51I'm really reluctant to go against Susan,

0:11:51 > 0:11:55cos last time I went against her I was wrong... No!

0:11:55 > 0:11:59..but I'm going to switch Coronation Street and Doctor Who around.

0:12:01 > 0:12:03OK, you're going against the panel.

0:12:03 > 0:12:05Yeah!

0:12:05 > 0:12:09For ?300, is Blue Peter, then Coronation Street,

0:12:09 > 0:12:11then Doctor Who the correct order?

0:12:17 > 0:12:18It is!

0:12:21 > 0:12:24Well done. Brilliant.

0:12:24 > 0:12:26You were right to doubt the panel.

0:12:26 > 0:12:30Let's have a look - Blue Peter, 1958.

0:12:30 > 0:12:32Coronation Street, 1960.

0:12:32 > 0:12:35Then Doctor Who, 1963.

0:12:35 > 0:12:38That was pretty close. Yeah. It was really close.

0:12:38 > 0:12:41When Coronation Street began filming in high-definition in 2010,

0:12:41 > 0:12:44they had to rebuild the chimneys with fibreglass

0:12:44 > 0:12:47because apparently high-definition

0:12:47 > 0:12:50makes things look slightly unflattering.

0:12:52 > 0:12:54Very well played, Suda.

0:12:54 > 0:12:57You went against the panel, it was a very wise decision.

0:12:57 > 0:12:59We have added ?300 to the prize pot.

0:12:59 > 0:13:00You are now up to ?500.

0:13:00 > 0:13:01APPLAUSE

0:13:03 > 0:13:06OK, let's have a look at question two in your picture round.

0:13:24 > 0:13:27I think this is a good one for me.

0:13:27 > 0:13:30Why is this a good one for you?

0:13:30 > 0:13:33Well, my family are from Sri Lanka.

0:13:33 > 0:13:35This is a very good start.

0:13:35 > 0:13:38The world's first female prime minister,

0:13:38 > 0:13:40although not at school at the same time as my mum,

0:13:40 > 0:13:43went to the same school as my mum

0:13:43 > 0:13:46and she loves to bang on about it,

0:13:46 > 0:13:48so I know that for a fact.

0:13:48 > 0:13:51The second bit is a little bit more difficult,

0:13:51 > 0:13:53but I think I've got an inkling,

0:13:53 > 0:13:55but I'd like to hear what the panel think.

0:13:56 > 0:13:59Let's see what expertise the panel brings to this -

0:13:59 > 0:14:01or not, as the case may be.

0:14:01 > 0:14:02Your debate starts now.

0:14:02 > 0:14:07Yes, so Julia Gillard did a very famous speech on misogyny

0:14:07 > 0:14:10in the Australian Parliament, and was ousted only...?

0:14:10 > 0:14:13About two years ago. Two, three years ago?

0:14:13 > 0:14:16I vaguely remember. I was out there on tour

0:14:16 > 0:14:18and I remember there being a hoo-ha about her,

0:14:18 > 0:14:21but there is always a hoo-ha about Australian politics.

0:14:21 > 0:14:23But I think she was the first

0:14:23 > 0:14:25and that was obviously very recent... Yeah.

0:14:25 > 0:14:27..and we know who the UK's first female was.

0:14:27 > 0:14:28PETER: And Maggie was, what, '79?

0:14:28 > 0:14:29Something like that.

0:14:29 > 0:14:31I wasn't born until '83. After the winter of...

0:14:31 > 0:14:33Not showing off or anything.

0:14:33 > 0:14:35I was - I know it doesn't look like it, but I was.

0:14:35 > 0:14:38There's been a lot of debate about female leaders recently

0:14:38 > 0:14:39because of Hillary Clinton,

0:14:39 > 0:14:43and I was listening to a discussion on why America has such a problem,

0:14:43 > 0:14:46given that other countries have had female prime ministers,

0:14:46 > 0:14:50and Sri Lanka was mentioned as one of the first countries

0:14:50 > 0:14:51to have a female leader.

0:14:51 > 0:14:57So I think actually I agree with Suda that this is the first country,

0:14:57 > 0:15:00UK next and then Australia. I think it's in order.

0:15:00 > 0:15:02It's interesting, cos in that region of the world

0:15:02 > 0:15:05generally there's been a tradition of female leadership

0:15:05 > 0:15:06for hundreds of years.

0:15:06 > 0:15:08Even though it's cast in terms of prime minister,

0:15:08 > 0:15:11there were a lot of famous queens in anticolonial struggles

0:15:11 > 0:15:12and even before that.

0:15:12 > 0:15:14So female leadership in that region of the world

0:15:14 > 0:15:15goes back a very long time.

0:15:15 > 0:15:18I think we can be pretty confident. Yeah, I think so.

0:15:18 > 0:15:20PETER: Well, the panel are incredibly confident

0:15:20 > 0:15:24that this is definitely the right order.

0:15:24 > 0:15:28In the order of Sri Lanka, the UK and Australia.

0:15:30 > 0:15:32You did think Sri Lanka was the first. Yep.

0:15:32 > 0:15:34Has our panel sorted the other two out for you?

0:15:34 > 0:15:37Yeah, so I'm really confident.

0:15:37 > 0:15:39Obviously, Margaret Thatcher in 1979

0:15:39 > 0:15:42and then Julia Gillard was a few years ago,

0:15:42 > 0:15:46I think, when Tony Abbott overthrew her.

0:15:46 > 0:15:50So, I'm really happy with that order as well.

0:15:50 > 0:15:52We're all in agreement.

0:15:53 > 0:15:55For ?300...

0:15:55 > 0:15:57is that the correct order?

0:16:04 > 0:16:06Yes! It is the correct order!

0:16:06 > 0:16:07APPLAUSE

0:16:09 > 0:16:10Very well done. Thank you.

0:16:10 > 0:16:13So Sri Lanka's first prime minister was?

0:16:13 > 0:16:14Sirimavo Bandaranayake.

0:16:14 > 0:16:16And she went to school...?

0:16:16 > 0:16:19She went to St Bridget's School in...Colombo, I think.

0:16:19 > 0:16:22Of course she went to St Bridget's School(!)

0:16:23 > 0:16:27Sri Lanka elected their first female prime minister in 1960,

0:16:27 > 0:16:29then the UK in 1979

0:16:29 > 0:16:32and Australia in 2010.

0:16:32 > 0:16:34I mean, well played, panel,

0:16:34 > 0:16:36and well played, Suda.

0:16:36 > 0:16:38That's ?300 in the prize pot.

0:16:38 > 0:16:39Well done.

0:16:39 > 0:16:40APPLAUSE

0:16:44 > 0:16:48Still another ?1,000 up for grabs as we play Round Three.

0:16:51 > 0:16:53In this round, Suda, you'll face questions

0:16:53 > 0:16:56that contain three statements about a person, place or thing,

0:16:56 > 0:16:58and only one of those is correct.

0:16:58 > 0:17:00You have to decide which one.

0:17:00 > 0:17:01There are two questions in this round.

0:17:01 > 0:17:03Because it's our final round,

0:17:03 > 0:17:06the money goes up to ?500 per correct answer.

0:17:06 > 0:17:08So, let's see how we do.

0:17:08 > 0:17:09Here it comes.

0:17:29 > 0:17:32OK, I think I can rule out...

0:17:32 > 0:17:35A, cos I know he was born in Cardiff.

0:17:37 > 0:17:41The other two I'm a little bit unsure about.

0:17:41 > 0:17:43All right, panel, your debate starts now.

0:17:45 > 0:17:47He was definitely born in Wales. Right.

0:17:47 > 0:17:50Norwegian background, but definitely Welsh. OK.

0:17:50 > 0:17:53AKALA: Even though I don't associate him with a James Bond script,

0:17:53 > 0:17:55if there was a sequel to Matilda...

0:17:55 > 0:17:57People would know about it. It would be famous.

0:17:57 > 0:18:00I'm a bit obsessed with...ahem, James Bond.

0:18:00 > 0:18:04He wrote the script for - I think it was You Only Live Twice.

0:18:04 > 0:18:07I think, which was the fifth James Bond film.

0:18:07 > 0:18:09I may be incorrect in the details,

0:18:09 > 0:18:13but in Scotland in the long summer, winter months

0:18:13 > 0:18:17when they replay James Bond films continually on television,

0:18:17 > 0:18:20I believe Roald Dahl wrote the script for a James Bond film.

0:18:20 > 0:18:22PETER: Well, that is good enough for me,

0:18:22 > 0:18:25because I am pretty sure he didn't publish a sequel to Matilda.

0:18:25 > 0:18:26AKALA: I agree. I absolutely agree.

0:18:26 > 0:18:28Matilda is such a huge book,

0:18:28 > 0:18:31and none of us have ever read a sequel to Matilda, have we? No.

0:18:31 > 0:18:35He only started writing when he had children.

0:18:35 > 0:18:38It prompted him to write children's books. Right.

0:18:38 > 0:18:40Are we all agreed? Yes.

0:18:40 > 0:18:43The panel have made a decision,

0:18:43 > 0:18:46and we believe that the script for a James Bond film

0:18:46 > 0:18:47was written by Roald Dahl.

0:18:50 > 0:18:53I read Matilda over and over again as a kid,

0:18:53 > 0:18:58and I think I would have been really excited if a sequel had come out.

0:18:58 > 0:19:00I feel... I feel I've heard...

0:19:00 > 0:19:02When you said that about You Only Live Twice,

0:19:02 > 0:19:04I feel like I've heard that.

0:19:04 > 0:19:05I'm really happy with B.

0:19:05 > 0:19:08Yeah, I think that's the one we'll go for.

0:19:08 > 0:19:12OK, all in and agreed? Yep.

0:19:12 > 0:19:17For ?500, did Roald Dahl write a script for James Bond?

0:19:23 > 0:19:24He did!

0:19:24 > 0:19:26APPLAUSE

0:19:27 > 0:19:29Great, thank you.

0:19:29 > 0:19:33He did. He was born in Wales, but from Norwegian ancestry.

0:19:33 > 0:19:38He wrote the screenplay, Susan, for You Only Live Twice.

0:19:38 > 0:19:391967.

0:19:39 > 0:19:42He never wrote a sequel to Matilda.

0:19:42 > 0:19:45He didn't start writing for children until he had children of his own.

0:19:45 > 0:19:47Good knowledge, Peter Jones.

0:19:47 > 0:19:50Well played, well worked out.

0:19:50 > 0:19:52?500 into the prize pot -

0:19:52 > 0:19:54you're now up to ?1,300, Suda.

0:19:56 > 0:19:58Very nicely played.

0:19:58 > 0:20:00Let's see if we can get this up to 1,800.

0:20:00 > 0:20:03Here comes your second question in our third round...

0:20:26 > 0:20:29My inkling is has competed in the Fifa World Cup.

0:20:29 > 0:20:31I suppose...

0:20:31 > 0:20:34Could have had a decent-ish football team.

0:20:34 > 0:20:37You don't have to be that good to be in the World Cup.

0:20:37 > 0:20:39So, I'm going to go with A.

0:20:39 > 0:20:41Based on the fact

0:20:41 > 0:20:43you can be rubbish and still make it to the World Cup... Yeah!

0:20:43 > 0:20:45..Suda is thinking A.

0:20:45 > 0:20:47Panel, your debate starts now.

0:20:47 > 0:20:49Suda, just to let you know,

0:20:49 > 0:20:53Scotland haven't qualified for the World Cup for a very long time.

0:20:53 > 0:20:55So, er... Yeah.

0:20:55 > 0:20:57PETER: I think you're definitely right

0:20:57 > 0:20:59it doesn't share a border with California. Yeah.

0:20:59 > 0:21:02We also have a football star here.

0:21:02 > 0:21:04I did play for West Ham for five years as a schoolboy,

0:21:04 > 0:21:07and I don't ever remember Canada being in the World Cup.

0:21:07 > 0:21:09Let's not... I don't want to commit to that.

0:21:09 > 0:21:11I don't remember it. How old are you?

0:21:11 > 0:21:13I am 32.

0:21:13 > 0:21:16There's a possibility they could have been at the World Cup.

0:21:16 > 0:21:17I don't think we should dismiss it.

0:21:17 > 0:21:20Also, smaller land area than the USA...

0:21:20 > 0:21:23- I don't think Canada is smaller. - I don't, either.

0:21:23 > 0:21:27When you look at that map, you visualise the map...

0:21:27 > 0:21:30- I think Canada's bigger. - I think Canada's bigger.

0:21:30 > 0:21:33I am leaning more towards the Fifa World Cup,

0:21:33 > 0:21:38simply because I think they probably at some point have qualified.

0:21:38 > 0:21:42Even with boycotts and everything they might have had a chance.

0:21:42 > 0:21:44AKALA: I think it might be A.

0:21:44 > 0:21:47It's partly a punt, but I think it might be A.

0:21:47 > 0:21:49I think it's a strong punt,

0:21:49 > 0:21:52I do think it's a larger landmass than the USA,

0:21:52 > 0:21:55and we know that B is... It definitely doesn't share a border

0:21:55 > 0:21:57with California. Yeah. Are we decided?

0:21:57 > 0:21:59I think we are. Let's go for it.

0:21:59 > 0:22:03We believe that Canada has competed in the Fifa World Cup.

0:22:05 > 0:22:08OK, even though Akala played football

0:22:08 > 0:22:12and he doesn't remember Canada being at the World Cup,

0:22:12 > 0:22:13our panel have gone for A.

0:22:14 > 0:22:17I'm going to agree with the panel and say that it's true

0:22:17 > 0:22:19that Canada has competed at the Fifa World Cup.

0:22:20 > 0:22:22Let's lock it in.

0:22:23 > 0:22:29For ?500, has Canada competed at the Fifa World Cup?

0:22:36 > 0:22:38They have! Yay! APPLAUSE

0:22:39 > 0:22:41Very well done. Thank you.

0:22:41 > 0:22:42Very well done.

0:22:43 > 0:22:47Well played. They competed at the 1986 World Cup in Mexico.

0:22:47 > 0:22:50They lost all of their matches in the group.

0:22:50 > 0:22:52There are 13 American States border Canada,

0:22:52 > 0:22:55including Alaska and New York.

0:22:55 > 0:22:58Canada is larger than America.

0:22:58 > 0:22:59It is, you were right, Suda,

0:22:59 > 0:23:03it is second only to Russia in terms of area.

0:23:03 > 0:23:07Very well played. At the end of that round,

0:23:07 > 0:23:09the prize pot is up to ?1,800.

0:23:09 > 0:23:10Thank you.

0:23:12 > 0:23:15?1,800 is the amount you're going to be playing for

0:23:15 > 0:23:17in the final debate.

0:23:17 > 0:23:20So, if you win that money, Suda, how are you going to spend it?

0:23:20 > 0:23:24We're newlyweds but we just had a very small wedding,

0:23:24 > 0:23:26and so it was just myself and my husband

0:23:26 > 0:23:29and our parents and our two siblings,

0:23:29 > 0:23:32so, it would be lovely to have everyone that we couldn't invite

0:23:32 > 0:23:34to just have a bit of a party.

0:23:34 > 0:23:37We've been promising it, but just haven't had the money.

0:23:37 > 0:23:40So, it would be really useful. Absolutely no pressure on our panel.

0:23:40 > 0:23:43There's a wedding party at stake,

0:23:43 > 0:23:45and on that basis, there's only one question that

0:23:45 > 0:23:47stands between you and the money.

0:23:47 > 0:23:50It is today's final debate question.

0:23:50 > 0:23:52In the final debate, Suda, you're going to face one question. OK.

0:23:52 > 0:23:54There will be six possible answers,

0:23:54 > 0:23:56but only three of those are actually correct.

0:23:56 > 0:23:59You are going to have to give me all three correct answers

0:23:59 > 0:24:01in order to win the cash.

0:24:01 > 0:24:03You're not going to be playing alone.

0:24:03 > 0:24:07You can access one of our panel in order to help you.

0:24:07 > 0:24:10You and your panellist will have 45 seconds to debate the questions.

0:24:10 > 0:24:14So, based on their performance,

0:24:14 > 0:24:17who would you like to join you in today's final debate?

0:24:18 > 0:24:20I think it's going to have to be Susan.

0:24:20 > 0:24:22No!

0:24:22 > 0:24:27Susan Calman, please join us for the final debate.

0:24:30 > 0:24:33OK, Susan, Suda has chosen you for the final debate.

0:24:33 > 0:24:36Yes! There is a wedding party at stake. I know!

0:24:36 > 0:24:39How are you feeling? Under quite a lot of pressure.

0:24:39 > 0:24:41Well, look, because it's the final debate,

0:24:41 > 0:24:43we're going to give you a choice of two categories.

0:24:43 > 0:24:44Here they come. Oh!

0:24:47 > 0:24:48Oh...!

0:24:50 > 0:24:51Oh...

0:24:51 > 0:24:53OK. OK.

0:24:53 > 0:24:56I do really like literature,

0:24:56 > 0:25:00but I know that Susan is amazing at entertainment.

0:25:00 > 0:25:03Go with the one that you are confident with.

0:25:03 > 0:25:06Because Susan has said that, I'm going to go for literature.

0:25:06 > 0:25:08OK, let's lock it in.

0:25:08 > 0:25:12Literature for ?1,800.

0:25:12 > 0:25:16Here is today's 45-second final debate question.

0:25:40 > 0:25:45So, Suda and Susan, your final 45-second debate starts now.

0:25:45 > 0:25:48OK, so... I'm quite confident on this.

0:25:48 > 0:25:51I think Roddy Doyle won for Paddy Clarke Ha Ha Ha. Yep.

0:25:51 > 0:25:54Ian McEwan I think won for Atonement. Atonement.

0:25:54 > 0:25:55And Hilary Mantel's obviously won twice.

0:25:55 > 0:25:57Yes. For Wolf Hall and Bring Up The Bodies.

0:25:57 > 0:26:02Just to be clear, Lee Child, he's... No, no. ..thrillers and all that.

0:26:02 > 0:26:04Virginia Woolf, no. No.

0:26:04 > 0:26:07Too early, I think. She's no' around. Yeah!

0:26:07 > 0:26:10And Saul Bellow? I think he might have won the Nobel Prize

0:26:10 > 0:26:14for Herzog and things, but I don't think he ever won the Booker Prize.

0:26:14 > 0:26:17OK. I'm pretty confident Roddy Doyle... As soon as they came up...

0:26:17 > 0:26:19Ian McEwan... Absolutely. ..and Hilary Mantel.

0:26:19 > 0:26:21Lee Child and Virginia Woolf, absolutely not. Out.

0:26:21 > 0:26:24Ten seconds, guys. I think we can name the books.

0:26:24 > 0:26:25Yeah, absolutely.

0:26:25 > 0:26:26Atonement, great book.

0:26:26 > 0:26:29Hilary Mantel... Yep. Yeah. I think so, yep. Yeah.

0:26:31 > 0:26:34Time is up. OK. I need three answers.

0:26:34 > 0:26:36Roddy Doyle...

0:26:36 > 0:26:38Ian McEwan...

0:26:38 > 0:26:40and Hilary Mantel.

0:26:41 > 0:26:44All right, Suda, best of luck.

0:26:44 > 0:26:47If all three are correct, it's ?1,800.

0:26:47 > 0:26:49If one of them is wrong you do know you leave with nothing,

0:26:49 > 0:26:51so, best of luck. Here we go.

0:26:51 > 0:26:53You said Roddy Doyle.

0:26:53 > 0:26:55Is Roddy Doyle a Booker Prize winning author?

0:26:55 > 0:26:57To get this up and running...

0:27:03 > 0:27:04He is!

0:27:04 > 0:27:06APPLAUSE

0:27:06 > 0:27:07Well done.

0:27:09 > 0:27:121993 he won for Paddy Clarke Ha Ha Ha.

0:27:12 > 0:27:14Next up you said Ian McEwan.

0:27:14 > 0:27:16Is Ian McEwan a correct answer?

0:27:26 > 0:27:28Yes! It is a correct answer. APPLAUSE

0:27:28 > 0:27:30You guys thought it was for Atonement -

0:27:30 > 0:27:34it was actually for Amsterdam in 1998. Oh, was it? Amsterdam, OK.

0:27:35 > 0:27:38It all comes down to Hilary Mantel.

0:27:38 > 0:27:42If Hilary Mantel is the correct answer, you're in the money.

0:27:42 > 0:27:43Here we go.

0:27:45 > 0:27:48Has Hilary Mantel won the Booker Prize?

0:27:57 > 0:28:00She has! Well done! APPLAUSE

0:28:00 > 0:28:02Well done. Thank you!

0:28:05 > 0:28:07Very well played - and you were right, she did win twice.

0:28:07 > 0:28:092009 and 2012.

0:28:09 > 0:28:12Well played, Susan. Well played, Suda. Thank you.

0:28:12 > 0:28:13You leave with ?1,800.

0:28:13 > 0:28:14APPLAUSE

0:28:18 > 0:28:20That is it for Debatable.

0:28:20 > 0:28:23There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel today.

0:28:23 > 0:28:26To Susan Calman, Peter Jones and Akala.

0:28:26 > 0:28:28APPLAUSE

0:28:28 > 0:28:29I hope you've enjoyed watching.

0:28:29 > 0:28:32We will see you next time for more heated debates.

0:28:32 > 0:28:33For now, it's goodbye from me.

0:29:02 > 0:29:05I have some sense that there is some kind of malice at work here.

0:29:05 > 0:29:08They do not see that the workhouse is for their own safety.