Episode 13

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0:00:11 > 0:00:12APPLAUSE

0:00:15 > 0:00:17Hello, and welcome to Debatable,

0:00:17 > 0:00:24the quiz show where talk is cheap but celebrity chat can win a contestant money.

0:00:24 > 0:00:27Today, one player must answer a series of tricky questions

0:00:27 > 0:00:30to try to bag our jackpot of ?2,000.

0:00:30 > 0:00:31But they're not on their own,

0:00:31 > 0:00:36as they'll also have a panel of celebrity brainboxes debating their way to the answer.

0:00:36 > 0:00:38Will they help or will they hinder?

0:00:38 > 0:00:39Well, that's Debatable.

0:00:39 > 0:00:40Let's meet them.

0:00:40 > 0:00:44On today's show, we have TV presenter Gethin Jones,

0:00:44 > 0:00:48broadcaster and journalist Angela Rippon,

0:00:48 > 0:00:50and broadcaster Alice Levine.

0:00:50 > 0:00:51APPLAUSE

0:00:54 > 0:00:55That is the panel.

0:00:55 > 0:00:57Let's meet today's contestant.

0:00:57 > 0:00:59It is Daniel Sherman from Rickmansworth.

0:00:59 > 0:01:01CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:01:01 > 0:01:03Nice to meet you. How you doing?

0:01:03 > 0:01:06Tell us a little bit about yourself.

0:01:06 > 0:01:09My name is Daniel. I'm from Rickmansworth.

0:01:09 > 0:01:11I work in recruitment with my brother.

0:01:11 > 0:01:12We've got a company called Liquid.

0:01:12 > 0:01:17Previously in the Household Cavalry, where we do state occasions as

0:01:17 > 0:01:18the Queen's personal bodyguard.

0:01:18 > 0:01:20Personal bodyguard to the Queen.

0:01:20 > 0:01:22On state occasions.

0:01:22 > 0:01:24So talk us through some of the occasions.

0:01:24 > 0:01:25As part of the ceremonial side,

0:01:25 > 0:01:32line up the staircase of Buckingham Palace when people get awarded a knighthood or MBE from the Queen.

0:01:32 > 0:01:36So we're fortunate enough to line up and act on ceremonial occasions like that.

0:01:36 > 0:01:37From our panel,

0:01:37 > 0:01:42who do we think should be getting the nod from Her Maj next?

0:01:42 > 0:01:44Oh, Angela Rippon.

0:01:44 > 0:01:46How does that sound? Dame Angela Rippon?

0:01:46 > 0:01:48I'm thinking that's good.

0:01:48 > 0:01:50I've already got an OBE, so I'm very happy with that.

0:01:52 > 0:01:55I'm sitting here enjoying the thought of Daniel

0:01:55 > 0:01:56in his black thigh boots...

0:01:56 > 0:01:59Easy now. ..his jodhpurs and the breastplate.

0:01:59 > 0:02:01Made my day. Daniel, you're my man.

0:02:03 > 0:02:07And of course, your girlfriend is expecting twins, is that right?

0:02:07 > 0:02:08Yeah, it's all go.

0:02:08 > 0:02:11So, over the next couple of months, we're getting married and we've got

0:02:11 > 0:02:13twins on the way. So everything to play for.

0:02:13 > 0:02:16Everything to play for. So, absolutely no pressure on our panel.

0:02:16 > 0:02:17We have a family on the way.

0:02:17 > 0:02:19This man needs the money.

0:02:19 > 0:02:24OK, let's get this Debatable show on the road as we play Round One.

0:02:27 > 0:02:29This round is multiple choice.

0:02:29 > 0:02:32Daniel, each question has four possible answers

0:02:32 > 0:02:34but only one of those is correct.

0:02:34 > 0:02:38Now, helping you, apparently, to the correct answer, is our panel.

0:02:38 > 0:02:41Will you go with what they say or will you go your own way?

0:02:41 > 0:02:43It's entirely up to you, Daniel.

0:02:43 > 0:02:45There are two questions in this round

0:02:45 > 0:02:48and each correct answer is worth ?200.

0:02:48 > 0:02:50Lovely. So let's see if we can get you up to 400

0:02:50 > 0:02:51at the end of this round.

0:02:51 > 0:02:52Let's get cracking. Here we go.

0:03:11 > 0:03:13So, Daniel, what are you looking at there?

0:03:13 > 0:03:14What's drawing your eye first?

0:03:14 > 0:03:18I'm not au fait with Italian but I'm looking at "pick me up" because of

0:03:18 > 0:03:20the coffee element. Because of the coffee element.

0:03:20 > 0:03:24Well, hold that thought as we go over to our panel.

0:03:24 > 0:03:26Your debate starts now.

0:03:26 > 0:03:31Well, first of all, tiramisu is interesting because I love coffee,

0:03:31 > 0:03:34I can't live without coffee, but I don't like tiramisu.

0:03:34 > 0:03:36It's sponge and cream and coffee, isn't it?

0:03:36 > 0:03:38There's cheese in there? It's quite boozy as well.

0:03:38 > 0:03:41It's quite boozy. It's coffee and alcohol,

0:03:41 > 0:03:43you'd think that that would definitely pick you up.

0:03:43 > 0:03:45And maybe at the end of the meal it's little pick me up after all...

0:03:45 > 0:03:48But you don't have tiramisu for breakfast, do you?

0:03:48 > 0:03:49I do. Do you?

0:03:49 > 0:03:50I do. Wow.

0:03:50 > 0:03:52But that's something I didn't want to announce(!)

0:03:52 > 0:03:54Too much information, Alison.

0:03:54 > 0:03:57Have you ever had tiramisu for breakfast, Angela?

0:03:57 > 0:04:00No, never. Have you ever had a takeaway the next day for breakfast?

0:04:00 > 0:04:03No. Have you ever had a Chinese, where the next day you have the Chinese

0:04:03 > 0:04:05leftovers or a pizza?

0:04:05 > 0:04:07Who has leftovers from a Chinese?

0:04:07 > 0:04:09No. Correct answer, correct answer.

0:04:09 > 0:04:13So, what do we reckon? "Pick me up," for coffee.

0:04:13 > 0:04:17The layers are very close to each other, so, "hold me close"?

0:04:17 > 0:04:20I've got a feeling, because it's tira-MIsu,

0:04:20 > 0:04:22I've got a feeling it's ME.

0:04:22 > 0:04:25So I think it's, "hold me close". I would trust you,

0:04:25 > 0:04:28but just before the cameras went on, you said,

0:04:28 > 0:04:31"I'm just going to blag it." So that's slightly concerning.

0:04:31 > 0:04:32Just here for the ride.

0:04:32 > 0:04:34So what are you going to go with, then? "Pick me up".

0:04:34 > 0:04:36Pick me up. Pick me up.

0:04:36 > 0:04:40Pick me up? Yes. Then we're going to go with, "pick me up" because I'm in

0:04:40 > 0:04:42favour of democracy.

0:04:42 > 0:04:43What are you feeling, Daniel?

0:04:43 > 0:04:47Well, now that you've gone into it in more detail and you've got the words

0:04:47 > 0:04:48tira, mi and su,

0:04:48 > 0:04:52I'm just trying to think what word fits more appropriately to that.

0:04:52 > 0:04:58So I may be swaying to go against the panel and go with what Angela

0:04:58 > 0:05:00originally said, and "hold me close".

0:05:01 > 0:05:03So your original thought was "pick me up"

0:05:03 > 0:05:06and you're changing your answer to "hold me close"?

0:05:06 > 0:05:08It's risky.

0:05:09 > 0:05:10Yeah, I think I am.

0:05:10 > 0:05:12I think I am, looking at the word.

0:05:12 > 0:05:13OK, Angela. No pressure.

0:05:13 > 0:05:18Here we go. For ?200, is it "hold me close"?

0:05:23 > 0:05:24Oh, it's "pick me up"!

0:05:26 > 0:05:28You should have gone with the panel, Daniel.

0:05:28 > 0:05:31Should have stuck with it. Unfortunately, Daniel,

0:05:31 > 0:05:33nothing in the prize pot for the first question

0:05:33 > 0:05:34but we have plenty of time

0:05:34 > 0:05:36to get that up. Here comes your next question.

0:05:54 > 0:05:58Gut feeling, I would say platypus.

0:05:58 > 0:05:59Any particular reason for that, Daniel?

0:05:59 > 0:06:05I know that it's very closely linked to a duck, with the beak.

0:06:05 > 0:06:08I don't know whether that might be a spawn off

0:06:08 > 0:06:10over the evolutionary track

0:06:10 > 0:06:13and whether or not that would still mean laying eggs.

0:06:13 > 0:06:16The good news is, Daniel, is you don't have to give us an answer yet

0:06:16 > 0:06:18because our panel are just going to nail this straightaway.

0:06:18 > 0:06:20They're looking extremely confident.

0:06:20 > 0:06:22It's over to you.

0:06:22 > 0:06:23Your debate starts now.

0:06:23 > 0:06:25Well, we've all watched wildlife programmes, haven't we?

0:06:25 > 0:06:28Of course. And we've seen dolphins being born at sea, haven't we?

0:06:28 > 0:06:30Yes. And I think the same for seals.

0:06:30 > 0:06:32Seals. We've seen seals being born.

0:06:32 > 0:06:35And I reckon, not that I've actually been present at a beaver's birth,

0:06:35 > 0:06:40but I'm pretty certain that beavers are born as they come.

0:06:40 > 0:06:41But platypus?

0:06:41 > 0:06:44I once did a film on platypus.

0:06:44 > 0:06:45Well, you know the answer, then!

0:06:45 > 0:06:48But I've got a really short-term memory.

0:06:48 > 0:06:51I remember the beak, the duck beak.

0:06:51 > 0:06:52Yeah, that funny flat foot.

0:06:52 > 0:06:55Definitely spends a bit of time in the water.

0:06:55 > 0:06:57I can't remember if it...

0:06:57 > 0:06:59If this is the summary, I can't wait to watch the show.

0:07:00 > 0:07:02They do give birth to live young.

0:07:02 > 0:07:03That is a trait of mammals.

0:07:03 > 0:07:07And I feel like the platypus is the least mammalian of the lot because

0:07:07 > 0:07:09it has those weird traits that we're talking about

0:07:09 > 0:07:11and the kind of strange feet and things, doesn't it?

0:07:11 > 0:07:14So I think we're quite confident that that's the odd one out,

0:07:14 > 0:07:17but I've never sat down to breakfast and had platypus scrambled eggs,

0:07:17 > 0:07:20so... You'd have tiramisu. I always order the tiramisu.

0:07:20 > 0:07:22She's got leftover Chinese.

0:07:22 > 0:07:23Why not? Just have a platypus egg as well.

0:07:23 > 0:07:25She has weird breakfasts. She does, doesn't she?

0:07:25 > 0:07:28What are we going to go with, then? I'm pretty confident with platypus.

0:07:28 > 0:07:30I'm really confident with platypus.

0:07:30 > 0:07:32OK. Platypus or dolphin?

0:07:32 > 0:07:34Right. Well, I think we agree

0:07:34 > 0:07:38dolphins do not produce eggs but it's more

0:07:38 > 0:07:40than likely that platypus do.

0:07:40 > 0:07:43Platypi? Platypus. Platypi.

0:07:43 > 0:07:46OK. If we were giving out extra points we would give it to Alice,

0:07:46 > 0:07:49of course, for platypi and mammalian.

0:07:49 > 0:07:51I mean, you're just throwing them in there.

0:07:51 > 0:07:54We'll be taking points off for Gethin Jones for actually making

0:07:54 > 0:07:57a programme about platypus and forgetting everything in it.

0:07:57 > 0:08:04They have very confidently gone for platypus.

0:08:04 > 0:08:06Now, we went against the panel the first question

0:08:06 > 0:08:09and it didn't work out. Are you going to go with them this time?

0:08:09 > 0:08:11I'm definitely going to stick with platypus.

0:08:11 > 0:08:13It just makes perfect sense.

0:08:13 > 0:08:16Yeah, I definitely agree with what the panel were saying.

0:08:16 > 0:08:19So, Daniel, you are going for platypus.

0:08:19 > 0:08:21For ?200, is platypus the correct answer?

0:08:24 > 0:08:26It is the correct answer.

0:08:26 > 0:08:27APPLAUSE

0:08:30 > 0:08:33A platypus is a monotreme.

0:08:33 > 0:08:34There he is, funny old face.

0:08:34 > 0:08:38Unlike other mammals, they lay eggs rather than having

0:08:38 > 0:08:41a live birth. The platypus is one of only two mammals,

0:08:41 > 0:08:44the other is the echidna,

0:08:44 > 0:08:46that actually lay eggs.

0:08:46 > 0:08:49And so at the end of that round, Daniel, it's ?200 in the prize pot.

0:08:49 > 0:08:51Excellent. Thank you.

0:08:55 > 0:08:57Let's see how they cope with pictures.

0:08:57 > 0:08:59It is time for Round Two.

0:09:01 > 0:09:04Round Two is our picture round.

0:09:04 > 0:09:08Daniel, all you have to do is to put three pictures in the correct order.

0:09:08 > 0:09:10Two questions in this round.

0:09:10 > 0:09:14Each correct answer is worth ?300, so here we go.

0:09:32 > 0:09:35Classic comedy there, Daniel. What are you thinking?

0:09:35 > 0:09:39At the moment, I'm liking Norman Stanley

0:09:39 > 0:09:40to be first that appeared.

0:09:42 > 0:09:44Then Basil Fawlty and then Del Boy at the end.

0:09:44 > 0:09:46That's what I'm...just randomly.

0:09:46 > 0:09:49It's kind of a little bit before my time but that's what I'm going for.

0:09:49 > 0:09:51A little bit before your time.

0:09:51 > 0:09:53Mm-hm. A little bit before my time as well.

0:09:53 > 0:09:54LAUGHTER

0:09:54 > 0:09:59Let's go to our panel, who no doubt will shed some light on the subject.

0:09:59 > 0:10:00Panel, your debate starts now.

0:10:00 > 0:10:01Here we go. Well,

0:10:01 > 0:10:06I reckon that Del Boy was the last...

0:10:06 > 0:10:08To appear? To appear.

0:10:08 > 0:10:11The last to appear. You don't think Fawlty Towers.

0:10:11 > 0:10:13Cos it was only two series, Fawlty Towers.

0:10:13 > 0:10:15I know, but I think these came after.

0:10:15 > 0:10:17Was it? Only 12 episodes, I think.

0:10:17 > 0:10:19I think this is definitely the first.

0:10:19 > 0:10:21I think Fletch was really, really early.

0:10:21 > 0:10:25I think it's a toss up, actually, between Fletch and Basil.

0:10:25 > 0:10:27I remember that the least.

0:10:27 > 0:10:29I think that one was the first one.

0:10:29 > 0:10:31Yes, I think that's definitely the earliest.

0:10:31 > 0:10:33And then this one came second. You see, I disagree.

0:10:33 > 0:10:37I think Only Fools And Horses and then Fawlty Towers.

0:10:37 > 0:10:41Really? But...I mean, I am the youngest out of everyone, one, so...

0:10:42 > 0:10:44Basil was quite a long, long time ago.

0:10:44 > 0:10:47But that little three-wheeler, though, that's old.

0:10:47 > 0:10:49That's old technology. I know, but they're still around.

0:10:49 > 0:10:52That was the whole point. They're not still around, Angela!

0:10:52 > 0:10:54Of course they are! Do you drive a three-wheeler?

0:10:54 > 0:10:55That's a really good point.

0:10:55 > 0:10:58I'm sure Basil's car was older than the Robin Reliant.

0:10:58 > 0:11:00That was part of the joke, that he only had a three-wheeler.

0:11:00 > 0:11:03I love that we're explaining the joke of Only Fools And Horses

0:11:03 > 0:11:04to Gethin! So the joke is...

0:11:04 > 0:11:06The joke is they've got only three wheels.

0:11:06 > 0:11:09No, I'm going to base this on cars.

0:11:09 > 0:11:12This is perfect. Basil was before because it was an older car.

0:11:12 > 0:11:15I think he had an old, like, Rover 300.

0:11:15 > 0:11:18I'm happy with that. Yes?

0:11:18 > 0:11:19You don't look convinced.

0:11:20 > 0:11:23I still think maybe old Basil should go at this end,

0:11:23 > 0:11:25but let's stick with this.

0:11:25 > 0:11:28I think there's the most unanimous front on this, isn't there?

0:11:28 > 0:11:31But I reserve the right to be a know-it-all if I was right.

0:11:31 > 0:11:33Yeah. All right, we're going to stick with what we've got.

0:11:33 > 0:11:36We're going to put that the oldest one is Fletch,

0:11:36 > 0:11:40that the middle one is Basil and the youngest one is Del Boy.

0:11:42 > 0:11:43They got there in the end, Daniel.

0:11:43 > 0:11:47The good news is that you have comedy performer Alice Levine on the end.

0:11:47 > 0:11:50We have Angela Rippon, who's appeared in classic '70s comedy,

0:11:50 > 0:11:53at the BBC, and they're trying to work it out

0:11:53 > 0:11:54from the age of the cars.

0:11:58 > 0:12:00I'm kind of remembering that Fletch

0:12:00 > 0:12:03and Del Boy, as actors, appeared in a series together.

0:12:03 > 0:12:05Open All Hours.

0:12:05 > 0:12:09Yeah. And the ages were quite different between the two.

0:12:09 > 0:12:12So I'm agreeing with the panel. You're agreeing with the panel.

0:12:12 > 0:12:18You are going for Fletch, then Basil, then Del Boy.

0:12:18 > 0:12:20For ?300, is that the correct order?

0:12:25 > 0:12:27It is the correct order!

0:12:30 > 0:12:33We got there, we got there.

0:12:34 > 0:12:40There we go. Norman Stanley Fletcher appeared on TV in 1973.

0:12:40 > 0:12:42Basil Fawlty, '75.

0:12:42 > 0:12:45And then Del Boy not until 1981.

0:12:45 > 0:12:48So, 300 quid is added to the prize pot

0:12:48 > 0:12:51and that gives you a total, Daniel, of 500 quid. Well done.

0:12:51 > 0:12:52Excellent. Thank you.

0:12:54 > 0:12:56Now we're rolling, panel.

0:12:56 > 0:12:57Now we're rolling. Here we go.

0:12:57 > 0:13:00Let's see if we can get this up for another 300.

0:13:00 > 0:13:01Here comes your next question.

0:13:21 > 0:13:23I've got a pretty confident guess

0:13:23 > 0:13:27that Tim Peake would be the most recent.

0:13:27 > 0:13:29Corbyn was elected by then.

0:13:29 > 0:13:32And I think Madonna happened a lot earlier in 2015.

0:13:32 > 0:13:35Hand it over to the panel. Your debate time starts now.

0:13:35 > 0:13:37The person who tied that cape is...

0:13:37 > 0:13:38let's be honest... Must be...

0:13:38 > 0:13:40Either fired or dead, let's be honest.

0:13:40 > 0:13:42They genuinely must be.

0:13:42 > 0:13:46When was it? The communal gasp in the room was like nothing else,

0:13:46 > 0:13:49and also when she hit the stage there was a kind of...

0:13:49 > 0:13:51THUD

0:13:51 > 0:13:55Can't look. So the Brit Awards, if my memory is correct,

0:13:55 > 0:13:57are at the end of February.

0:13:58 > 0:14:01Late February is when that happened, 2015.

0:14:01 > 0:14:03Right.

0:14:03 > 0:14:07That's definitely first. So Corbyn elected leader in the middle

0:14:07 > 0:14:09and Tim most recently. What month was Corbyn elected?

0:14:09 > 0:14:12It was after the General Election. I think Corbyn's after.

0:14:12 > 0:14:16Tim was in space when Corbyn was elected, surely?

0:14:16 > 0:14:19Corbyn was elected leader of the Labour Party

0:14:19 > 0:14:20after the General Election.

0:14:20 > 0:14:23Yeah. I think it's between those two which one came first.

0:14:23 > 0:14:25And because I don't know enough about...

0:14:25 > 0:14:28Don't bring Madonna back into it. Madonna's fine. She's the oldest.

0:14:28 > 0:14:30Yeah. She's the oldest. I'd swap those two.

0:14:30 > 0:14:32Corbyn can't be pre-February.

0:14:32 > 0:14:34No. So that's definitely right.

0:14:34 > 0:14:37Yeah. We are not agreed on this.

0:14:37 > 0:14:41But we are going to go with Madonna being the oldest,

0:14:41 > 0:14:44Corbyn being in the middle, and Tim Peake being the youngest.

0:14:45 > 0:14:48So, a unanimous decision, Daniel, by our panel.

0:14:48 > 0:14:50I definitely think Madonna's first.

0:14:50 > 0:14:53I vaguely remember Tim Peake doing the London Marathon

0:14:53 > 0:14:58in space and that wasn't too long after he launched up there,

0:14:58 > 0:15:01so I'm going to stick with my original thought and the panel

0:15:01 > 0:15:04and go with Madonna, Corbyn and then Tim Peake.

0:15:04 > 0:15:07You're agreeing with the panel.

0:15:07 > 0:15:08No pressure, Angela.

0:15:08 > 0:15:11Is that the correct order, for ?300?

0:15:15 > 0:15:16Yes. It is!

0:15:19 > 0:15:22Well done, Angela. You were right to pull them into line there.

0:15:22 > 0:15:25Madonna falls at the Brits was 25th February.

0:15:25 > 0:15:30Then Corbyn elected Labour leader was 12th September and Tim Peake

0:15:30 > 0:15:34launched into space, not until 15th December.

0:15:34 > 0:15:37So, Daniel, at the end of that round

0:15:37 > 0:15:39your prize pot is up to 800 quid.

0:15:39 > 0:15:40Well played. Excellent.

0:15:40 > 0:15:42Thank you very much.

0:15:44 > 0:15:48Look, there's still ?1,000 up for grabs, as we play Round Three.

0:15:51 > 0:15:53In this round, you will face a question

0:15:53 > 0:15:55that has three statements relating

0:15:55 > 0:15:57to a person, a place or a thing.

0:15:57 > 0:15:59Only one of those statement is true.

0:15:59 > 0:16:02You must decide which one.

0:16:02 > 0:16:04Two questions in this round and because it's our final round

0:16:04 > 0:16:07we're going to up the cash to 500 quid a question.

0:16:07 > 0:16:08So, best of luck.

0:16:08 > 0:16:10Here it comes.

0:16:32 > 0:16:35Now, you're a man familiar with the corridors of power, Daniel.

0:16:35 > 0:16:36What are we thinking about this?

0:16:36 > 0:16:40I'm going, gut feeling, B, at the moment.

0:16:40 > 0:16:42I'd like to hear what the panel has to say.

0:16:42 > 0:16:45Well, they've been right so far all the way through.

0:16:45 > 0:16:47Angela has a smile on her face.

0:16:47 > 0:16:49Quietly confident.

0:16:49 > 0:16:51Your debate time starts now.

0:16:51 > 0:16:54Well, each member belongs to a political party,

0:16:54 > 0:16:57I know for a fact that is not true because you can be an independent.

0:16:57 > 0:17:00Of course, Martin Bell, famously, was an independent.

0:17:00 > 0:17:03We all know that there are 624 members in the House of Commons.

0:17:03 > 0:17:08Yes. There are at least 700 peers, if not more.

0:17:08 > 0:17:10I've never seen someone really young.

0:17:10 > 0:17:13Who's the youngest member at the moment? She's Scottish.

0:17:13 > 0:17:15And she is.... I think she's only 21.

0:17:15 > 0:17:17She is really young. She's 21, she is a Scottish MP.

0:17:17 > 0:17:19Have you it seen on her Wiki page?

0:17:19 > 0:17:20Have you got proof she's 21?

0:17:20 > 0:17:22Do you believe everything you see on Wikipedia?

0:17:22 > 0:17:24Absolutely everything. Oh, my gosh.

0:17:24 > 0:17:27It says that I was once on Blind Date and in The Mighty Boosh.

0:17:27 > 0:17:30And was it true? No. I rest my case.

0:17:30 > 0:17:32I think you're right about the political party one.

0:17:32 > 0:17:34That's kind of the one we're most sure on.

0:17:34 > 0:17:36I agree with that as well. I don't think we have to debate

0:17:36 > 0:17:38for very long about this, do we?

0:17:38 > 0:17:40Well, I've learnt my lesson here.

0:17:42 > 0:17:45I was just checking every avenue for Daniel's sake.

0:17:45 > 0:17:47You were. So we have a consensus?

0:17:47 > 0:17:50We agree that the House of Commons has fewer members

0:17:50 > 0:17:52than the House of Lords.

0:17:52 > 0:17:55So our panel says they agree.

0:17:55 > 0:17:58Angela has brought in her political and constitutional knowledge.

0:17:58 > 0:18:01Has fewer members than the House of Lords,

0:18:01 > 0:18:06overriding Gethin's Wikipedia Blind Date knowledge.

0:18:06 > 0:18:08I'm definitely going to agree with the panel on this one.

0:18:08 > 0:18:09I'll go for B. OK.

0:18:09 > 0:18:11You're agreeing with the panel.

0:18:12 > 0:18:14For ?500...

0:18:15 > 0:18:18..does the House of Commons have fewer members

0:18:18 > 0:18:19than the House of Lords?

0:18:22 > 0:18:23It does.

0:18:27 > 0:18:29Well done. Well done.

0:18:29 > 0:18:32Members must be at least 18 years old.

0:18:32 > 0:18:34You were right about that, Angela.

0:18:34 > 0:18:36Mhari Black is the youngest MP at the moment.

0:18:36 > 0:18:40She's 21. The House of Lords has over 800 members,

0:18:40 > 0:18:43the House of Commons has 650.

0:18:44 > 0:18:47Well played. That's another 500 quid in the prize pot,

0:18:47 > 0:18:51which means you have a new total of ?1,300.

0:18:51 > 0:18:52Excellent.

0:18:55 > 0:18:57Let's try and get the last 500 to get us

0:18:57 > 0:19:01up to 1,800 for our final debate, Daniel. Here it comes.

0:19:19 > 0:19:21This is our era, Daniel, is it?

0:19:21 > 0:19:24Um... No. No?

0:19:24 > 0:19:26You're way too young? Way too young, yes.

0:19:26 > 0:19:28Most definitely.

0:19:28 > 0:19:31I'm liking A. That's the one you're tipping towards at the moment?

0:19:31 > 0:19:33At the moment. Yeah.

0:19:33 > 0:19:35What we really need is someone with a misspent youth.

0:19:35 > 0:19:37Where would we get that, Gethin Jones?

0:19:37 > 0:19:39Easy. Over to you, guys.

0:19:39 > 0:19:41The debate starts now.

0:19:41 > 0:19:43The Rubik's cube. Yeah.

0:19:43 > 0:19:44Bane of my childhood.

0:19:44 > 0:19:47I never actually did it. Have you ever completed it?

0:19:47 > 0:19:48Well, you peel it off, don't you?

0:19:48 > 0:19:50You peel off the colours and then rearrange them.

0:19:50 > 0:19:51Yeah, that's how you do it.

0:19:51 > 0:19:54When you were doing that did you see any pink faces?

0:19:54 > 0:19:57No. I feel like one of the most iconic things about it

0:19:57 > 0:19:59is the colours. Has it got pink on it?

0:19:59 > 0:20:02No, it's yellow, green, blue...

0:20:02 > 0:20:03Yellow. White and red.

0:20:03 > 0:20:05There's no pink. You wouldn't just put pink faces

0:20:05 > 0:20:08and then just get rid of the colour altogether, would you?

0:20:08 > 0:20:09I have no idea on this.

0:20:09 > 0:20:12Absolutely none at all. Get rid of pink faces, for sure.

0:20:12 > 0:20:15German inventor? It sounds Germanic, doesn't it?

0:20:15 > 0:20:17It sounds Germanic. Yeah. I'm wondering...

0:20:17 > 0:20:18But I'm not sure that he was.

0:20:18 > 0:20:21Wasn't he Scandinavian, the guy who invented it?

0:20:21 > 0:20:23Yeah, I'm not sure about German inventor.

0:20:23 > 0:20:24The thing is, with all these great things,

0:20:24 > 0:20:27they're usually called something different at the start.

0:20:27 > 0:20:29It's like a TV programme. It's a working title

0:20:29 > 0:20:32and then gets named something. Magic. Yeah, Magic Cube.

0:20:32 > 0:20:34Magic Cube sounds like a knock-off one, though, doesn't it?

0:20:34 > 0:20:38Should have called it painful cube. Most frustrating cube in the world.

0:20:38 > 0:20:40Why would it now be called a Rubik's Cube

0:20:40 > 0:20:41if it was then called a Magic Cube?

0:20:41 > 0:20:44Because that's what happens in life. But if you were John Rubik

0:20:44 > 0:20:46you'd be like, "I want my name on it immediately."

0:20:46 > 0:20:49Well, maybe he just wasn't boastful.

0:20:49 > 0:20:52I have no clue on this one, so I'm going to give it to you two.

0:20:52 > 0:20:55Make your mind up time. I'm going to say Magic Cube.

0:20:55 > 0:20:57I'm going to say German inventor.

0:20:57 > 0:20:58Oh.

0:20:58 > 0:20:59You've got to go pink faces.

0:21:01 > 0:21:03This is a really difficult one,

0:21:03 > 0:21:07but I'm going to go with Gethin and what Daniel said originally,

0:21:07 > 0:21:09which is German inventor?

0:21:11 > 0:21:16So, Alice thought it was originally called the Magic Cube.

0:21:16 > 0:21:18Gethin thought it was a German inventor.

0:21:18 > 0:21:21You think it's also a German inventor.

0:21:21 > 0:21:25Angela didn't know but she's gone with your original answer.

0:21:25 > 0:21:27The panel is agreeing with you.

0:21:27 > 0:21:30Mm. Anything in there that would make you change your mind?

0:21:30 > 0:21:33The colours, the prime colours - red, yellow, green,

0:21:33 > 0:21:35blue, then black and white.

0:21:35 > 0:21:37So I think that would always be the case.

0:21:37 > 0:21:39Magic Cube, it's more of a puzzle cube.

0:21:39 > 0:21:44Germans known for engineering, it's quite an engineered object,

0:21:44 > 0:21:46so I'm going to, in agreement,

0:21:46 > 0:21:49stick with my original and say German inventor.

0:21:51 > 0:21:54If this is the correct answer it's another 500,

0:21:54 > 0:21:56bringing you up to ?1,800.

0:21:56 > 0:21:58If not, we stay at 1,300.

0:21:58 > 0:22:04For ?500, was the Rubik's Cube invented by a German?

0:22:07 > 0:22:09No!

0:22:09 > 0:22:10It was originally sold as the Magic Cube

0:22:10 > 0:22:14on its release in 1977 but then it

0:22:14 > 0:22:18was rebranded the Rubik's Cube in 1979.

0:22:18 > 0:22:22The inventor was Hungarian - Erno Rubik.

0:22:22 > 0:22:28The colours are white, yellow, red, orange, blue and green.

0:22:28 > 0:22:30So our panel come unstuck there, Daniel.

0:22:30 > 0:22:32I'm afraid we don't add that 500 quid

0:22:32 > 0:22:34but you're still playing for ?1,300

0:22:34 > 0:22:35in our final debate.

0:22:40 > 0:22:41It's still a tidy sum.

0:22:41 > 0:22:43It's still quite a good amount of money.

0:22:43 > 0:22:45What would you do with the cash if we got it today?

0:22:45 > 0:22:47It's got to be nappies.

0:22:47 > 0:22:50I'm under instructions to come back with a car,

0:22:50 > 0:22:52so it's definitely going to go towards that.

0:22:52 > 0:22:54OK. For ?1,300,

0:22:54 > 0:22:58it may be the three-wheeled car that we were talking about earlier on.

0:22:58 > 0:23:00But there's just one question

0:23:00 > 0:23:04between you and that money and that is today's final debate.

0:23:04 > 0:23:07In our final debate, Daniel, you will face one question.

0:23:07 > 0:23:12The question has six possible answers, only three are correct.

0:23:12 > 0:23:15In order to win the cash, you're going to have to give me all three correct answers.

0:23:15 > 0:23:17But as this is the final debate,

0:23:17 > 0:23:19you're not going to be playing on your own.

0:23:19 > 0:23:24We are going to let you choose one of our panel to help you with

0:23:24 > 0:23:28the question. You and your celebrity will have 45 seconds to answer

0:23:28 > 0:23:31the question. So who, based on their performance today,

0:23:31 > 0:23:36would you like to join you for the final debate?

0:23:39 > 0:23:40Thinking about it,

0:23:40 > 0:23:45the ones that I've done well on I've been in agreement with Angela,

0:23:45 > 0:23:48the ones I haven't got right, Alice has said.

0:23:48 > 0:23:53So, on that basis, no pressure - but I'm going to go with Alice.

0:23:53 > 0:23:56Alice, would you please come and join us as we play our final debate.

0:24:01 > 0:24:05So, Alice. Daniel has chosen you for the final debate.

0:24:05 > 0:24:07Obviously he has confidence in you.

0:24:07 > 0:24:09Do you have confidence in yourself?

0:24:09 > 0:24:11It really depends what the subject is.

0:24:12 > 0:24:14Because you realise how much your very good team

0:24:14 > 0:24:15was supporting you there.

0:24:15 > 0:24:18We're going to do it together. I think we are going to be fine.

0:24:18 > 0:24:20I have confidence. Every confidence.

0:24:20 > 0:24:22We're going to give you two categories for your final debate question.

0:24:22 > 0:24:24Have a look at this.

0:24:26 > 0:24:27You can have Sport...

0:24:27 > 0:24:28ALICE LAUGHS

0:24:30 > 0:24:31Don't worry, Alice.

0:24:31 > 0:24:33..or Literature.

0:24:33 > 0:24:35Sport or Literature.

0:24:35 > 0:24:37What would you like to go with?

0:24:37 > 0:24:40Not a fan of sport, really.

0:24:40 > 0:24:43I don't watch sport at all. I don't read that much, either.

0:24:43 > 0:24:44But out of the two...

0:24:44 > 0:24:46You went to university, so...

0:24:46 > 0:24:48I did English, but Literature,

0:24:48 > 0:24:51I don't know if that's going to be my...

0:24:51 > 0:24:52I know nothing about sport, really,

0:24:52 > 0:24:54So I'm going to have to go Literature.

0:24:54 > 0:24:56It's OK. We can still do this.

0:24:56 > 0:24:58You're going with Literature.

0:24:58 > 0:24:59Yes.

0:24:59 > 0:25:03For ?1,300, with 45 seconds on the clock,

0:25:03 > 0:25:06here is today's final debate question.

0:25:32 > 0:25:35So, Daniel and Alice, for the final time today,

0:25:35 > 0:25:37your 45 seconds starts now.

0:25:39 > 0:25:41Don't look at me, Daniel. Don't look at me.

0:25:41 > 0:25:42No problem. OK.

0:25:42 > 0:25:43Any spring out at you?

0:25:43 > 0:25:45I know Frankenstein's an old...

0:25:45 > 0:25:48I've read The Catcher In The Rye, JD Salinger.

0:25:48 > 0:25:50Is that more modern? More contemporary.

0:25:50 > 0:25:52Gulliver's Travels was...

0:25:52 > 0:25:56Frankenstein's going to be old. Yeah. Dracula is going to be old.

0:25:56 > 0:26:00That's a really... Robinson Crusoe as well, isn't that quite old?

0:26:00 > 0:26:03Yes. 1984, is that set in the future being...

0:26:03 > 0:26:07Yeah, but it's a contemporary novel, but kind of like...

0:26:07 > 0:26:09Yeah, future-facing.

0:26:09 > 0:26:13So... If you're looking at maybe... That was done in the '50s and '60s.

0:26:13 > 0:26:16Frankenstein's definitely before that.

0:26:16 > 0:26:19So let's discount 1984, let's discount the Catcher In The Rye.

0:26:19 > 0:26:21Gulliver's Travels. What do we think?

0:26:21 > 0:26:23Gulliver's Travels... I think they wouldn't be too...

0:26:23 > 0:26:27Time up, guys. Daniel, I need three answers, please.

0:26:27 > 0:26:32I am going to go with Frankenstein,

0:26:32 > 0:26:35Robinson Crusoe and...Dracula.

0:26:35 > 0:26:38OK, they're locked in.

0:26:38 > 0:26:40If they are the three correct answers,

0:26:40 > 0:26:42you leave today with ?1,300.

0:26:42 > 0:26:43If one of those is wrong,

0:26:43 > 0:26:46I'm afraid, Daniel, you do leave with nothing.

0:26:46 > 0:26:49So, best of luck. First up, you said Frankenstein.

0:26:49 > 0:26:50Is Frankenstein a correct answer?

0:26:54 > 0:26:55It is.

0:26:57 > 0:27:00Then you said Robinson Crusoe.

0:27:00 > 0:27:04Is Robinson Crusoe one of the three novels that were published earliest?

0:27:10 > 0:27:11Well done, you.

0:27:13 > 0:27:14Two out of two.

0:27:14 > 0:27:16It's all down to Dracula.

0:27:16 > 0:27:19If Dracula is correct, you walk away with the jackpot of ?1,300.

0:27:19 > 0:27:22If Dracula is wrong, you do leave with nothing.

0:27:22 > 0:27:23Oh, God.

0:27:23 > 0:27:25Is Dracula the correct answer for the money?

0:27:33 > 0:27:35Oh... Wrong answer.

0:27:35 > 0:27:37It's the wrong answer. It's Gulliver's Travels.

0:27:37 > 0:27:38Gulliver's Travels.

0:27:38 > 0:27:41I'm so sorry. No problem. Thank you very much.

0:27:41 > 0:27:43Let's go through it here.

0:27:43 > 0:27:44The correct answers.

0:27:44 > 0:27:49So, Frankenstein first, was published in 1818.

0:27:49 > 0:27:51Robinson Crusoe was published...

0:27:51 > 0:27:531719.

0:27:53 > 0:27:56And the answer you were looking for was Gulliver's Travels and you were

0:27:56 > 0:27:58between the two. That was the one.

0:27:58 > 0:28:02Yeah. And that was published in 1726.

0:28:02 > 0:28:03You didn't win today's prize pot

0:28:03 > 0:28:07but you played the game so well and thanks so much for coming on.

0:28:07 > 0:28:08Give it up one more time for Daniel.

0:28:08 > 0:28:10Thank you. Thank you very much.

0:28:11 > 0:28:13That is it for Debatable.

0:28:13 > 0:28:16There's just enough time for me to thank the fantastic panel.

0:28:16 > 0:28:19Alice Levine, Gethin Jones and Angela Rippon.

0:28:19 > 0:28:21APPLAUSE

0:28:21 > 0:28:23I hope you've enjoyed watching. We will see you next time

0:28:23 > 0:28:26for more heated debates. For now, it's goodbye from me.

0:28:54 > 0:28:55Start the clock. Name this show.

0:28:55 > 0:28:57BUZZER Top Class.

0:28:57 > 0:28:58What is it?

0:28:58 > 0:29:00BUZZER A new quiz show.

0:29:00 > 0:29:01Which channel is it on?

0:29:01 > 0:29:02BUZZER CBBC.

0:29:02 > 0:29:03Yes!

0:29:03 > 0:29:06The search for the UK's smartest school is on.

0:29:06 > 0:29:09It's a triumph!

0:29:13 > 0:29:14Sounds good to me.

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