Episode 15

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0:00:11 > 0:00:13APPLAUSE

0:00:15 > 0:00:18Hello and welcome to Debatable, the quiz show

0:00:18 > 0:00:20where talk is cheap, but celebrity chat

0:00:20 > 0:00:22can win a contestant money.

0:00:22 > 0:00:24Today, one player must answer

0:00:24 > 0:00:30a series of tricky questions, to try to bag a jackpot of ?2,000.

0:00:30 > 0:00:33But they are not on their own, as they will also have

0:00:33 > 0:00:38a panel of celebrity brainboxes debating their way to the answer.

0:00:38 > 0:00:40Will they help or will they hinder? Well, that is debatable.

0:00:40 > 0:00:42So, let's meet them.

0:00:42 > 0:00:44On today's show, we have actress...

0:00:46 > 0:00:49We have weather presenter...

0:00:50 > 0:00:52And writer and broadcaster...

0:00:53 > 0:00:54APPLAUSE

0:00:57 > 0:01:00It's looking intelligent already, I have to say, Carol.

0:01:00 > 0:01:02It's the glasses. It is the glasses.

0:01:02 > 0:01:04I've got my prop glasses, as well. Sunetra, what happened?

0:01:04 > 0:01:07It's all an act. It's all an act. It is. Acting intelligent today.

0:01:07 > 0:01:09Best of luck today. That's our panel.

0:01:09 > 0:01:10Let's meet today's contestant.

0:01:10 > 0:01:13It is James Beckles, from East London.

0:01:17 > 0:01:18James, you got the note.

0:01:18 > 0:01:20Yeah, I did, yeah, thanks.

0:01:20 > 0:01:22I think a bit of telepathy there. What is going on here?

0:01:22 > 0:01:25You are the smartest contestant we've ever had.

0:01:25 > 0:01:28Thank you. Yeah, sartorially, but I'm not sure about intelligence,

0:01:28 > 0:01:30but we'll see. So, James, tell us a little bit about yourself.

0:01:30 > 0:01:33I'm from Stratford, I'm 34 years old and I work as

0:01:33 > 0:01:36a policy officer for the General Pharmaceutical Council.

0:01:36 > 0:01:40Now, obviously, you have higher aspirations than this show.

0:01:40 > 0:01:42I'm a local councillor in my local area.

0:01:42 > 0:01:46So, I'm representing people, trying to do my little bit.

0:01:46 > 0:01:48With the expenses that you'll be claiming as an MP... Yes.

0:01:48 > 0:01:50..you won't need any of this cash. No.

0:01:50 > 0:01:51LAUGHTER

0:01:51 > 0:01:54What do we make of our Cabinet that we have here today?

0:01:54 > 0:01:57Oh, they're a fine selection. I put my faith all in them.

0:01:57 > 0:01:58Let's see what happens.

0:01:58 > 0:02:01Spoken like a true politician, James. Thank you very much.

0:02:01 > 0:02:02There we go. Best of luck, James.

0:02:02 > 0:02:06Let's get this Debatable show on the road and we play Round One.

0:02:09 > 0:02:11So, this round, James, is multiple choice.

0:02:11 > 0:02:13Each question has four possible answers,

0:02:13 > 0:02:16only one of those answers is correct.

0:02:16 > 0:02:21Helping you, it says, find the answer is our panel.

0:02:21 > 0:02:24Will you go with what they say or will you go your own way?

0:02:24 > 0:02:25It's entirely up to you.

0:02:25 > 0:02:27There's two questions in this round.

0:02:27 > 0:02:29Each correct answer is worth ?200.

0:02:29 > 0:02:31OK. Ready to play? I am. Let's go.

0:02:31 > 0:02:33Here we go. OK, let's get cracking.

0:02:49 > 0:02:51Obviously, we have a politician up there.

0:02:51 > 0:02:55Yep. I think I'm going to go for Marilyn Monroe.

0:02:57 > 0:02:59OK. Now we don't need an answer yet.

0:02:59 > 0:03:02Sunetra is stroking her chin in a knowing way.

0:03:02 > 0:03:06Oh, no, let's not mistake that stroke for a knowing look.

0:03:06 > 0:03:08Let's clarify that from the off. OK.

0:03:08 > 0:03:10Let's see what our panel make of this, James.

0:03:10 > 0:03:12Your debate starts now.

0:03:12 > 0:03:15Do you know what? I think it could be Marilyn Monroe because I remember

0:03:15 > 0:03:17reading something recently in the papers

0:03:17 > 0:03:19about her, it's her birthday. It would have been...

0:03:19 > 0:03:21How old was she going to be, then? Yeah.

0:03:21 > 0:03:23Well, I thought... Was it 90? No, I think it's older.

0:03:23 > 0:03:27Yeah, I think it's 90 cos I thought, gosh, she's the same age as my mum.

0:03:27 > 0:03:30Sorry about that, Mum. Or, she's the same age as the Queen.

0:03:30 > 0:03:31That would have been helpful.

0:03:31 > 0:03:34Oh, oh! Anyone know the Queen, to ask her?

0:03:34 > 0:03:38I mean, she'd be... She can't be our Call A Friend, can she?

0:03:38 > 0:03:42I know Marilyn Monroe is definitely an era a little bit before Elvis.

0:03:42 > 0:03:44Elvis was born in the '30s.

0:03:44 > 0:03:46I think I know that because my mum was born in the '40s and she

0:03:46 > 0:03:49always talks about... Yeah, so I think Elvis

0:03:49 > 0:03:51is '30s, which would make him how old now?

0:03:51 > 0:03:55Well, in his eighties. Would that make him eighties?

0:03:55 > 0:03:57Yeah. If it was... So who are we eliminating?

0:03:57 > 0:04:01Maggie's gone. We're getting rid of both the Maggies.

0:04:01 > 0:04:03OK. I think it's Marilyn. Do you? Yeah.

0:04:05 > 0:04:0950, 60, 70, 80, 90. Would people not make a thing of that, though?

0:04:09 > 0:04:12You see, now I'm torn between Elvis and Marilyn.

0:04:12 > 0:04:14Who thought you'd ever hear yourself say that?

0:04:14 > 0:04:16Guys, I'm making a decision. OK. OK.

0:04:16 > 0:04:18Our decision is Marilyn Monroe.

0:04:20 > 0:04:22I love the way you seized that, Carol.

0:04:22 > 0:04:24You just took charge there.

0:04:24 > 0:04:25Marilyn Monroe.

0:04:25 > 0:04:29Is Marilyn Monroe the same age as Carol Kirkwood's mum and does

0:04:29 > 0:04:32that make the Queen Carol Kirkwood's mum?

0:04:32 > 0:04:34LAUGHTER

0:04:34 > 0:04:37Yes. Well, actually... I didn't like to say.

0:04:37 > 0:04:40They are going with Marilyn Monroe, James.

0:04:40 > 0:04:43Well, it's good that they've come round to my way of thinking.

0:04:43 > 0:04:47I'm going to stick with Marilyn and, yeah, Marilyn Monroe, it is.

0:04:47 > 0:04:49OK. You have gone for Marilyn,

0:04:49 > 0:04:51our panel has gone for Marilyn, we're all in agreement.

0:04:51 > 0:04:53This will never last.

0:04:53 > 0:04:55LAUGHTER

0:04:55 > 0:04:59Let's see, for ?200, is Marilyn Monroe born in the same year

0:04:59 > 0:05:01as Queen Elizabeth II?

0:05:06 > 0:05:08It's the correct answer.

0:05:08 > 0:05:12Well done, panel. Thank you. Well played, James. We're up and running.

0:05:12 > 0:05:16The Queen and Marilyn were both born in 1926.

0:05:16 > 0:05:19And we have a little photograph of them, actually, meeting.

0:05:19 > 0:05:22There they are. That's Marilyn curtseying there

0:05:22 > 0:05:24and that's the Queen going, "I think that dress is

0:05:24 > 0:05:27"slightly lower cut than mine."

0:05:27 > 0:05:28You're up and running, James.

0:05:28 > 0:05:30?200 in the bank, well played.

0:05:30 > 0:05:31APPLAUSE Thank you.

0:05:33 > 0:05:37OK, here comes your next question. Again, for 200.

0:05:52 > 0:05:53How's your sports knowledge, James?

0:05:53 > 0:05:55Not very good, especially

0:05:55 > 0:05:57when it comes to food references there.

0:05:58 > 0:05:59Crumpet, bagel...

0:06:01 > 0:06:02I'm going to go for...

0:06:03 > 0:06:04Crumpet.

0:06:04 > 0:06:05Good confidence there.

0:06:05 > 0:06:10But obviously our panel are going to sort this out quite quickly.

0:06:10 > 0:06:12Panel, your debate starts now.

0:06:12 > 0:06:15Well, there is a lot of crumpet, I would say, in tennis,

0:06:15 > 0:06:17I have to be honest. Ooh, that's a good way...

0:06:17 > 0:06:18You've got a point there. I think...

0:06:18 > 0:06:21I don't know if that would be a term, though.

0:06:21 > 0:06:23A sufficient term. I know.

0:06:23 > 0:06:26When they say term, do you think they mean a term within the scoring

0:06:26 > 0:06:28and the etiquette or do you think it's like

0:06:28 > 0:06:31a friendly term that they use within the sort of off-court...?

0:06:31 > 0:06:34I don't think it's a casual tennis thing. You don't think...

0:06:34 > 0:06:37I think it's official. Like deuce, which isn't on our list.

0:06:37 > 0:06:40Yeah, deuce would be helpful here, wouldn't it?

0:06:40 > 0:06:42I'm going to throw something out there.

0:06:42 > 0:06:45Go on. I don't think it's crouton, crumpet or baguette.

0:06:45 > 0:06:46I think it's bagel. Do you?

0:06:47 > 0:06:52I think that bagel is like a zero, I think it's a love.

0:06:52 > 0:06:54I think it's another name...

0:06:54 > 0:06:57Like, if you lose a game to love or you lose a set,

0:06:57 > 0:07:02if you get nil points, then it's like a bagel, right?

0:07:02 > 0:07:06I would say it was possibly bagel, based on what Rick's just said.

0:07:06 > 0:07:09OK, let's, by the process of elimination,

0:07:09 > 0:07:10get rid of what we think.

0:07:10 > 0:07:14So crouton we think no? No. I can't see what crouton would be used for.

0:07:14 > 0:07:15Crumpet, we think no?

0:07:16 > 0:07:19Even though James is thinking it is, I'm not sure now.

0:07:19 > 0:07:20If it's not British...

0:07:20 > 0:07:23James was, in his own words, very confident...

0:07:23 > 0:07:24Yeah, crumpet. What's your answer?

0:07:24 > 0:07:27Well... Give me one, give me one.

0:07:27 > 0:07:31I think bagel. I think bagel is when you get no points.

0:07:31 > 0:07:32Sunetra, what do you think?

0:07:32 > 0:07:34Oh, do you know, I started off thinking crumpet

0:07:34 > 0:07:37and I'm now heading towards bagel, as well.

0:07:37 > 0:07:39OK, our final... I appreciate that support.

0:07:39 > 0:07:41I think our final answer is bagel. I think so, too.

0:07:42 > 0:07:45Our panel have gone with bagel. How's that?

0:07:45 > 0:07:48I'm just trying to think of every Wimbledon game I've watched.

0:07:48 > 0:07:50You know, 15 love and a crumpet. But...

0:07:53 > 0:07:56I think I'll go with the panel and pick bagel.

0:07:56 > 0:07:59You're going to go with the panel again. Yep.

0:07:59 > 0:08:02Rick looking slightly more nervous.

0:08:02 > 0:08:05Unrest in the panel here. I'll get my apologies in early.

0:08:07 > 0:08:11For ?200, is bagel a term used in tennis?

0:08:16 > 0:08:19It is! Wow! It is.

0:08:19 > 0:08:20Well played, Rick.

0:08:22 > 0:08:27The term is used to describe a win in a set where the score of 6-0.

0:08:29 > 0:08:33Crumpet is what Carol Kirkwood describes Roger Federer as.

0:08:34 > 0:08:35No comment.

0:08:35 > 0:08:37Slightly different.

0:08:37 > 0:08:39Well played, though, James.

0:08:39 > 0:08:40That's ?200 banked,

0:08:40 > 0:08:43bringing your total up at the end of that round to ?400. Well done.

0:08:47 > 0:08:49So, 100% record.

0:08:49 > 0:08:52How do we think our panel's doing so far?

0:08:52 > 0:08:54Oh, they're doing well. Love their debating style and,

0:08:54 > 0:08:56yeah, keep going, guys.

0:08:57 > 0:08:59OK, James, it is time for Round Two.

0:09:03 > 0:09:04Round Two is our picture round.

0:09:04 > 0:09:09All you have to do is put three pictures in correct order.

0:09:09 > 0:09:13It sounds simple. It does. But believe me, it's not.

0:09:13 > 0:09:15There are two questions in this round.

0:09:15 > 0:09:18Each correct answer's worth ?300, so here we go.

0:09:38 > 0:09:42Ever been to Italy, James? I have and my girlfriend's Italian.

0:09:42 > 0:09:45She's from Sicily, so she'll probably kill me

0:09:45 > 0:09:47if I don't get this question right!

0:09:47 > 0:09:49Colosseum's in Rome.

0:09:49 > 0:09:51I think that's closer to London.

0:09:53 > 0:09:57Then I'd go for Rialto Bridge and Mount Etna, which is in Sicily.

0:09:57 > 0:09:59What's your girlfriend's name? Zara.

0:09:59 > 0:10:02Zara. Is she going to be watching today? Yes, she will.

0:10:02 > 0:10:05Yes, she is. I'm going to be forcing her.

0:10:05 > 0:10:06LAUGHTER

0:10:06 > 0:10:07This question may not.

0:10:08 > 0:10:11Let's see what our panel make of this one, guys.

0:10:11 > 0:10:13Your debate starts now.

0:10:13 > 0:10:15Well, I've seen Carol with a map many a time

0:10:15 > 0:10:19so I might actually start off with asking you, Carol.

0:10:19 > 0:10:21What do you think? Defer to you, Carol.

0:10:21 > 0:10:23Well, first of all, the Rialto Bridge is in Venice.

0:10:23 > 0:10:25Yep. I've been there and stood in it.

0:10:25 > 0:10:29Mount Etna is in the middle of Italy. Ish.

0:10:29 > 0:10:31Right. And the Colosseum is in Rome.

0:10:33 > 0:10:35Yeah. So, looking at a map, Italy is here,

0:10:35 > 0:10:38Venice is in the Po Valley, so I would say

0:10:38 > 0:10:40the Rialto Bridge is the furthest away, because

0:10:40 > 0:10:42you've got Italy in the way.

0:10:42 > 0:10:46If you've got the boot. Yeah. Rome is sort of halfway down the boot,

0:10:46 > 0:10:48isn't it? Yes. So, that's the Colosseum.

0:10:48 > 0:10:51So, this is the boot. Rome is... Hang on.

0:10:51 > 0:10:53Like... Is that the wrong boot?

0:10:53 > 0:10:55You're the wrong way round. Is that the boot?

0:10:55 > 0:10:58Yeah. It's like here somewhere. OK. Right.

0:10:58 > 0:11:02And then Venice is at the top. In the corner.

0:11:02 > 0:11:03And then, surely, is Etna...

0:11:03 > 0:11:06I think James is right, I think Etna's Sicily, isn't it?

0:11:06 > 0:11:09Which is like the football at the bottom of the boot,

0:11:09 > 0:11:10isn't it? So, we think... Carol...

0:11:10 > 0:11:13Let's put them in order. So closest to London, next,

0:11:13 > 0:11:16and then furthest away. So it is where we are?

0:11:16 > 0:11:18But... Yeah, but I could be completely wrong. Oh, what?

0:11:18 > 0:11:22I would go Rialto Bridge, Colosseum, Etna

0:11:22 > 0:11:24and I know no-one else agrees with me but that

0:11:24 > 0:11:28is what I would go for. OK. Sunetra, what do you think?

0:11:28 > 0:11:32I'm thinking Colosseum, Venice and Mount Etna, as well.

0:11:32 > 0:11:34I'm thinking of swapping those two round.

0:11:34 > 0:11:38OK, well, the panel have decided

0:11:38 > 0:11:41on what we have here, which is the Colosseum,

0:11:41 > 0:11:44Mount Etna and the Rialto Bridge.

0:11:44 > 0:11:47Are you sure? I don't like that. No! I'm not sure!

0:11:47 > 0:11:49But it's what we're going for.

0:11:49 > 0:11:53I love the fact that Carol said "The panel decided..."

0:11:53 > 0:11:58So, Carol, you're ignoring the other two panellists.

0:11:58 > 0:12:00Do you know what, Patrick, I'll go into work

0:12:00 > 0:12:03and be spectacularly sacked, if this is wrong.

0:12:03 > 0:12:05No, you won't. You'll be great.

0:12:05 > 0:12:08They are suggesting the Colosseum, then Etna,

0:12:08 > 0:12:11then the Rialto Bridge. You don't have to go with them.

0:12:11 > 0:12:14I'm going to stick with Colosseum,

0:12:14 > 0:12:15Rialto Bridge and Mount Etna.

0:12:18 > 0:12:21For ?300, is that the correct answer?

0:12:28 > 0:12:32The wrong order. Let's see what the correct order is.

0:12:35 > 0:12:39No! The Rialto Bridge, the Colosseum and Mount Etna.

0:12:39 > 0:12:42As we now have a little look at Carol's face

0:12:42 > 0:12:46and Rick trying to hide his smugness, on the end.

0:12:46 > 0:12:50I don't want to dwell on it. No point dwelling on it.

0:12:50 > 0:12:51The Rialto Bridge in Venice,

0:12:51 > 0:12:55707 miles from London.

0:12:55 > 0:12:57The Colosseum is 892 miles,

0:12:57 > 0:13:00and then, Mount Etna is in Sicily, Rick.

0:13:00 > 0:13:02It is 1,202 miles away.

0:13:02 > 0:13:05Unfortunately, you did get that question wrong,

0:13:05 > 0:13:06so you still have ?400 in your prize pot.

0:13:10 > 0:13:12Never mind. Never mind. Let's see if we can get it up

0:13:12 > 0:13:14with our second picture question. Here we go.

0:13:33 > 0:13:38Now, what we need to answer this question, we need an actor

0:13:38 > 0:13:40who's appeared on a BBC series.

0:13:42 > 0:13:44I have actually been in Doctor Who, as well.

0:13:44 > 0:13:47Oh, hang on... James, what are we thinking?

0:13:47 > 0:13:50I don't remember William Hartnell.

0:13:50 > 0:13:54Initial thoughts, I'm going to go for Tom Baker,

0:13:54 > 0:13:56William Hartnell and David Tennant.

0:13:56 > 0:14:00OK. Let's see what our panel can bring to this.

0:14:00 > 0:14:02Your debate starts now.

0:14:04 > 0:14:08Right, OK. Have you any inside knowledge at all?

0:14:08 > 0:14:11Well, inside knowledge enough to know that Tom Baker did it

0:14:11 > 0:14:13for many, many more years than David Tennant.

0:14:13 > 0:14:16He was in it when I was a child and seemed to be in it forever.

0:14:16 > 0:14:18Who was your Doctor? Tom Baker. Who was yours?

0:14:18 > 0:14:20Borderline Peter Davidson/Tom Baker.

0:14:20 > 0:14:23I got a slightly tough deal, I was Colin Baker. Ah!

0:14:23 > 0:14:25And then, actually, Sylvester McCoy,

0:14:25 > 0:14:26who I really liked.

0:14:26 > 0:14:30Notice how we've all given away our age with that one answer.

0:14:30 > 0:14:32At least none of said William Hartnell, that's good.

0:14:32 > 0:14:34William Hartnell was the first Doctor.

0:14:34 > 0:14:36How long was he in it for?

0:14:37 > 0:14:39I think we can safely say

0:14:39 > 0:14:41Tom is the one who's done the most.

0:14:41 > 0:14:44Our question, really, is do you think William Hartnell

0:14:44 > 0:14:45was a long enough Doctor Who

0:14:45 > 0:14:47to have been on it for more

0:14:47 > 0:14:49than two years of David Tennant?

0:14:49 > 0:14:51I think he probably was. I mean, don't know.

0:14:51 > 0:14:55I'm going to go against you both, I think they made such few episodes

0:14:55 > 0:14:58back in those days. A series wasn't 24 episodes.

0:14:58 > 0:15:00That's a plausible argument.

0:15:00 > 0:15:03It was eight episodes or ten. Let's try and make a decision, then.

0:15:05 > 0:15:06Put that on your end. OK.

0:15:06 > 0:15:09Let's go with this. OK, panel? We're happy with that decision?

0:15:09 > 0:15:12I'm going to go like this, but they are going to go like this.

0:15:12 > 0:15:15Can we maybe just do this? That's not a very team thing to say.

0:15:15 > 0:15:19OK, all right. I wasn't saying that with the Italy question, was I?

0:15:19 > 0:15:23OK, the panel have decided, safety in numbers, here, that

0:15:23 > 0:15:25we're going for David Tennant,

0:15:25 > 0:15:28William Hartnell and Tom Baker, in that order.

0:15:29 > 0:15:32OK, panel. They're going for David Tennant,

0:15:32 > 0:15:34William Hartnell and Tom Baker.

0:15:34 > 0:15:38Now, bearing in mind that Sunetra is the only one of our panel that

0:15:38 > 0:15:40has appeared in Doctor Who

0:15:40 > 0:15:44and has been ridden roughshod over by Carol Kirkwood...

0:15:44 > 0:15:47Well, we've analysed it well, Patrick.

0:15:47 > 0:15:50What do you make of that? I like Sunetra's rounding of it.

0:15:50 > 0:15:52Also, she's an actress, so she probably knows.

0:15:52 > 0:15:58I think I'm going to go for William Hartnell, David Tennant, Tom Baker.

0:15:59 > 0:16:03OK. So you're going against the panel. Going against the panel.

0:16:03 > 0:16:08If that is correct, it's another ?300 in the prize pot.

0:16:08 > 0:16:10Let's see if it's the correct order.

0:16:16 > 0:16:18It's the wrong order.

0:16:18 > 0:16:20Let's see the right order.

0:16:22 > 0:16:24Should have gone with the panel.

0:16:24 > 0:16:29It's David Tennant, William Hartnell and Tom Baker.

0:16:29 > 0:16:31David Tennant, 59 episodes,

0:16:31 > 0:16:34William Hartnell, 143 episodes,

0:16:34 > 0:16:38and the definitive Tom Baker, 178 episodes.

0:16:38 > 0:16:42You were so close to working that one out, James, but, don't worry,

0:16:42 > 0:16:44there's plenty more opportunities to get the cash up.

0:16:44 > 0:16:47At the end of that round, your prize pot is still ?400.

0:16:48 > 0:16:50APPLAUSE

0:16:53 > 0:16:57Now, based on that round, who's performing best?

0:16:58 > 0:17:00Rick. Clearly.

0:17:00 > 0:17:01I didn't want to say it!

0:17:02 > 0:17:05There's still plenty of time and there's still

0:17:05 > 0:17:07another ?1,000 up for grabs in Round Three.

0:17:10 > 0:17:13In this round, you'll face questions that contain a statement

0:17:13 > 0:17:15about a person, a place or a thing,

0:17:15 > 0:17:17but only one of those statements is true.

0:17:17 > 0:17:20You have to find which one that is.

0:17:20 > 0:17:23Now, there are two questions in this round, because

0:17:23 > 0:17:25it's the final round, we're going to up the cash

0:17:25 > 0:17:28to ?500 per correct answer.

0:17:28 > 0:17:30So, best of luck. Here it comes.

0:17:46 > 0:17:48What's your initial thought, there, James?

0:17:48 > 0:17:51B, retractable claws.

0:17:51 > 0:17:53OK. Any particular reason for that?

0:17:53 > 0:17:56They're animals, four legs, they've got claws.

0:17:56 > 0:17:59Possibly retractable. And I don't know if dogs sweat.

0:17:59 > 0:18:00LAUGHTER

0:18:00 > 0:18:03Don't like to get too close.

0:18:03 > 0:18:05Foxes, they tend to chase foxes.

0:18:05 > 0:18:08Would you do that with your cousin? I don't know.

0:18:08 > 0:18:12In my family, perhaps. OK. Let's see if our panel can come up

0:18:12 > 0:18:13with anything on this one.

0:18:13 > 0:18:15The debate, guys, starts now.

0:18:15 > 0:18:18I wish this was about cats. Yeah, me too, yeah.

0:18:18 > 0:18:20Cats have the retractable claws.

0:18:20 > 0:18:22I don't know if dogs do, because you hear them

0:18:22 > 0:18:24padding, don't you, when they're running?

0:18:24 > 0:18:27I'm useless, here. I'm really scared of animals

0:18:27 > 0:18:29in general, all animals. So I don't look at them,

0:18:29 > 0:18:32I try not to have eye contact in case they...

0:18:32 > 0:18:35I, funnily enough, played a vet a couple of times.

0:18:35 > 0:18:37When I'm filming and they say "Action,"

0:18:37 > 0:18:39I'm fine, I can touch the dogs, and as soon as

0:18:39 > 0:18:40they say "Cut," I'm like that.

0:18:40 > 0:18:43When you've been touching the dogs, have they ever been sweaty?

0:18:43 > 0:18:44Well, this is interesting.

0:18:44 > 0:18:47I think dogs, maybe they're not dripping with sweat,

0:18:47 > 0:18:50but they definitely got very hot and so, therefore,

0:18:50 > 0:18:53slightly damp. But they pant, don't they?

0:18:53 > 0:18:56Because they can't lose heat, so there's just that...

0:18:56 > 0:19:01"I haven't got any sweat glands..." Do you know what I mean?

0:19:01 > 0:19:02Yeah.

0:19:02 > 0:19:05Are they related to foxes? I'd say cats are related to foxes

0:19:05 > 0:19:07and dogs - maybe, wolves?

0:19:07 > 0:19:11Foxes look, to me, they look more like dogs than cats.

0:19:11 > 0:19:14You're going for foxes. I mean, foxes look like dogs.

0:19:14 > 0:19:18OK, let's make a decision. I'm sticking with foxes, sorry.

0:19:21 > 0:19:22Sunetra?

0:19:23 > 0:19:27I'm going to say sweat glands, just to be controversial.

0:19:27 > 0:19:30I'm going to say sweat glands, too.

0:19:30 > 0:19:34So, the panel's final decision, we might regret this, is they

0:19:34 > 0:19:35have no sweat glands.

0:19:39 > 0:19:43So, Sunetra, absolutely petrified of all animals,

0:19:43 > 0:19:45has now become an expert on dogs.

0:19:45 > 0:19:48LAUGHTER

0:19:48 > 0:19:50Has any of that helped or hindered?

0:19:50 > 0:19:53I liked Rick's panting, that kind of swayed me towards...

0:19:53 > 0:19:56It was just... "I haven't got any sweat glands."

0:19:58 > 0:20:01I'm going to go with the panel, gut instinct

0:20:01 > 0:20:03and say, have no sweat glands...

0:20:03 > 0:20:05due to the panting.

0:20:05 > 0:20:08You think that dogs have no sweat glands.

0:20:08 > 0:20:11For ?500, do dogs have no sweat glands?

0:20:15 > 0:20:16Oh, no!

0:20:19 > 0:20:22Dogs are related to foxes.

0:20:22 > 0:20:24You should have gone with Rick.

0:20:24 > 0:20:27The most sweat glands in a dog are around their paw pads.

0:20:27 > 0:20:31Dogs do not have retractable claws.

0:20:31 > 0:20:35Dogs and foxes both belong to the Canidae family.

0:20:35 > 0:20:39There they are, getting along like my family at Christmas.

0:20:39 > 0:20:41LAUGHTER

0:20:41 > 0:20:44Unfortunately, you didn't get that right, James,

0:20:44 > 0:20:48but there is still ?500 up for grabs in the final question of this round.

0:20:48 > 0:20:50Your prize pot remains at ?400.

0:20:50 > 0:20:52APPLAUSE

0:20:55 > 0:20:57OK, here we go.

0:20:57 > 0:20:57Concentrate, people.

0:20:57 > 0:21:01Let's try to get this cash up. Here it comes.

0:21:16 > 0:21:19C. That was quite definite. Yeah.

0:21:19 > 0:21:21Any particular reason?

0:21:21 > 0:21:23It's a Spanish name and I'm going to go with

0:21:23 > 0:21:25the Spaniards and say golden coast.

0:21:25 > 0:21:29It's a quick answer. He's thinking golden coast.

0:21:29 > 0:21:32Panel, over to you. Your debate starts now.

0:21:33 > 0:21:36I can see why you'd go for that, and I'd be headed for

0:21:36 > 0:21:39there myself, actually, quite literally.

0:21:39 > 0:21:42Golden coast. I think Costa, coast... Have you been?

0:21:42 > 0:21:43I haven't, actually, no.

0:21:43 > 0:21:45It's a part of the world I haven't...

0:21:45 > 0:21:47I have been. Oh. And this is the kind of thing

0:21:47 > 0:21:50where you could humiliate yourself, but I'm pretty sure

0:21:50 > 0:21:53it was an island, and on that basis it is not going to share

0:21:53 > 0:21:55a border with Guatemala. Yes, actually.

0:21:55 > 0:21:58I think Costa Rica's an island. Yeah.

0:21:58 > 0:22:01So, do you think it has no army? Do you know what, I didn't run

0:22:01 > 0:22:03into the army. That's not to say they didn't have one.

0:22:03 > 0:22:06Where do you think Costa Rica is in the world?

0:22:06 > 0:22:08Over to you, Maps! South America.

0:22:08 > 0:22:11Come on, Maps! Oh, no, the pressure.

0:22:11 > 0:22:13After what happened the last time, I think I'm...

0:22:13 > 0:22:17I'll tell you one thing... Which is the most innocuous one there?

0:22:17 > 0:22:19I'm pretty sure it's not Guatemala,

0:22:19 > 0:22:22because Guatemala shares a border with Mexico.

0:22:23 > 0:22:26Yes. And also, I mean, Costa Rica's an island, so...

0:22:26 > 0:22:28So that one's gone. Get rid of that.

0:22:28 > 0:22:31Has no army. We don't know. Golden coast, we definitely know

0:22:31 > 0:22:34coast does sound like...Costa.

0:22:34 > 0:22:35Any... Can you think of any French word

0:22:35 > 0:22:38that's like Rica? What's the French word for gold?

0:22:38 > 0:22:40Sometimes there is a crossover between French and Spanish.

0:22:40 > 0:22:44Or. O-R. Or. Is the root to do with rich?

0:22:44 > 0:22:45Being rich, having gold?

0:22:45 > 0:22:47Golden. That's very plausible.

0:22:49 > 0:22:52I think we can amicably say we're agreed on this one.

0:22:52 > 0:22:58So, the panel's decision is the name is Spanish for golden coast.

0:22:58 > 0:23:02OK. They think it is golden coast.

0:23:02 > 0:23:04Which was the answer you went for really quickly.

0:23:04 > 0:23:08I'm wishing I'd learned Spanish instead of French, so I'm going to

0:23:08 > 0:23:10go for C and say golden coast.

0:23:10 > 0:23:12OK, we are all in agreement. Who knew?

0:23:13 > 0:23:18For ?500, is Costa Rica Spanish for golden coast?

0:23:26 > 0:23:28No! It's the wrong answer.

0:23:28 > 0:23:31Costa Rica has no army.

0:23:31 > 0:23:33As we all know,

0:23:33 > 0:23:36Costa Rica borders... It's not an island. Good stuff.

0:23:36 > 0:23:41It's not an island, Rick. It borders Nicaragua and Panama.

0:23:41 > 0:23:43Guatemala is further north.

0:23:45 > 0:23:47The name is Spanish for rich coast.

0:23:47 > 0:23:50So I'm afraid, James, that was the wrong answer.

0:23:50 > 0:23:54It means you're going to be playing for ?400 in today's final debate.

0:23:54 > 0:23:56APPLAUSE

0:23:59 > 0:24:04So, ?400, James, what would you do with that amount of money?

0:24:04 > 0:24:05Well, the way London prices are,

0:24:05 > 0:24:07that's going to be my train ticket home.

0:24:07 > 0:24:10That is... LAUGHTER

0:24:10 > 0:24:12There's just one question that stands

0:24:12 > 0:24:14between you and that train ticket home.

0:24:14 > 0:24:16The good news is, you're not going to be playing alone.

0:24:16 > 0:24:18This is the final debate and so, we're going to allow you

0:24:18 > 0:24:23to choose one of these fine human beings to help you, from our panel.

0:24:23 > 0:24:29So, based on our last question and all the questions today,

0:24:29 > 0:24:32who would you like to join you in the final debate?

0:24:40 > 0:24:43Like the panting by Rick, liked the hand shape of Italy,

0:24:43 > 0:24:44but I'm going to go with Carol.

0:24:45 > 0:24:49Carol. Carol, would you please join us for the final debate?

0:24:50 > 0:24:51# APPLAUSE

0:24:55 > 0:24:58So, Carol, James has chosen you for the final debate.

0:24:58 > 0:25:00You look confident and ready.

0:25:00 > 0:25:02It's all an act!

0:25:02 > 0:25:04Because this is the final debate, James,

0:25:04 > 0:25:06we're going to give you two categories to choose from.

0:25:06 > 0:25:07Here you go.

0:25:11 > 0:25:14I hate Numbers, so I'm going to go for Film.

0:25:14 > 0:25:17Great. I would rather go for Film rather than Numbers, as well.

0:25:17 > 0:25:20Definitely. OK. You've chosen Film.

0:25:20 > 0:25:22So, for ?400,

0:25:22 > 0:25:2645 seconds on the clock, here is today's final debate question.

0:25:49 > 0:25:52James and Carol, for the final time, your debate starts now.

0:25:55 > 0:25:59Oscars, not BAFTAs. Oscars, not BAFTAs. Moulin Rouge didn't, did it?

0:25:59 > 0:26:05No, I think Rocky won Best Writer, I think that was Sylvester Stallone.

0:26:05 > 0:26:07Braveheart... Braveheart, I don't

0:26:07 > 0:26:10think Braveheart did. I think The King's Speech did.

0:26:10 > 0:26:14I think Mel Gibson got two Oscars for Braveheart.

0:26:14 > 0:26:17Gravity. Gravity won lots of things, didn't it?

0:26:17 > 0:26:19Spanish director, I can't remember his name.

0:26:19 > 0:26:22And he's won twice, not sure if it was Best Director or Best Movie.

0:26:22 > 0:26:2515 seconds. Jaws was brilliant in its day, as well.

0:26:25 > 0:26:28Spielberg, you can't go wrong, really.

0:26:28 > 0:26:31So, let's start making some decisions, Rocky, do you think?

0:26:31 > 0:26:33Rocky, Braveheart, Jaws.

0:26:35 > 0:26:38I would go with that, as well. Let's hope it's right!

0:26:39 > 0:26:42OK. James, I need three answers.

0:26:43 > 0:26:46OK, I'm going to go with Carol's good advice.

0:26:48 > 0:26:51Jaws, Rocky and Braveheart.

0:26:51 > 0:26:54Jaws, Rocky and Braveheart.

0:26:54 > 0:26:58Please be right. Here we go, for ?400.

0:26:58 > 0:27:03Let's start with Rocky. Did Rocky win Best Picture at the Oscars?

0:27:07 > 0:27:08It did.

0:27:09 > 0:27:12Rocky won Best Picture in 1977.

0:27:12 > 0:27:14Well done, we're up and running.

0:27:14 > 0:27:17Next was Braveheart.

0:27:17 > 0:27:21Is Braveheart a winner of Best Picture at the Oscars?

0:27:26 > 0:27:28It's a correct answer.

0:27:28 > 0:27:29Won in 1995.

0:27:30 > 0:27:33So, two out of two, but we do need three correct answers,

0:27:33 > 0:27:35in order to get the ?400.

0:27:35 > 0:27:38Please let it be right! Please let it be right.

0:27:38 > 0:27:42You then said Jaws, with Carol's help.

0:27:42 > 0:27:44If Jaws is the correct answer, you leave with 400.

0:27:44 > 0:27:47If it's not right, I'm afraid you leave with nothing.

0:27:47 > 0:27:50Did Jaws win Best Picture at the Oscars?

0:28:00 > 0:28:05Oh, no! It was nominated in 1976, but it didn't win.

0:28:05 > 0:28:09The correct answer was The King's Speech. Oh, no!

0:28:09 > 0:28:12The King's Speech won in 2011.

0:28:12 > 0:28:14I'm so sorry, James. But you've been a great player.

0:28:14 > 0:28:17It's been fantastic. Thanks a lot. Give it up one more time for James.

0:28:17 > 0:28:20APPLAUSE

0:28:21 > 0:28:22That's it for Debatable.

0:28:22 > 0:28:26There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel,

0:28:26 > 0:28:29to Carol Kirkwood, to Sunetra Sarker and Rick Edwards.

0:28:29 > 0:28:31APPLAUSE

0:28:31 > 0:28:33I do hope you've enjoyed watching.

0:28:33 > 0:28:35We will see you next time for more heated debates.

0:28:35 > 0:28:37For now, it's goodbye from me.

0:29:06 > 0:29:07Start the clock. Name this show.

0:29:07 > 0:29:09BUZZER Top Class.

0:29:09 > 0:29:10What is it?

0:29:10 > 0:29:11BUZZER A new quiz show.

0:29:11 > 0:29:13Which channel is it on?

0:29:13 > 0:29:14BUZZER CBBC.

0:29:14 > 0:29:15Yes!

0:29:15 > 0:29:18The search for the UK's smartest school is on.

0:29:18 > 0:29:20It's a triumph!