0:00:12 > 0:00:14Hello and welcome to Debatable,
0:00:14 > 0:00:16the quiz show where a panel of celebrities
0:00:16 > 0:00:21try to win money by doing what they do best - chatting.
0:00:21 > 0:00:24Today, one player must answer a series of tricky questions
0:00:24 > 0:00:27to try to bag our jackpot of ?2,000,
0:00:27 > 0:00:29but they are not on their own
0:00:29 > 0:00:33as they will also have a panel of celebrity brain boxes, it says here,
0:00:33 > 0:00:35debating their way to the answer.
0:00:35 > 0:00:37Will they help, or will they hinder?
0:00:37 > 0:00:40Well, that is debatable, so let's meet them.
0:00:40 > 0:00:42On today's show,
0:00:42 > 0:00:45we have broadcaster Konnie Huq,
0:00:45 > 0:00:48actor Nigel Havers
0:00:48 > 0:00:50and actor Christopher Biggins!
0:00:50 > 0:00:52APPLAUSE
0:00:54 > 0:00:56OK, that is our panel.
0:00:56 > 0:00:59Let's see who's playing today.
0:00:59 > 0:01:01It is Jim Sutherland from Aberdeen!
0:01:01 > 0:01:03APPLAUSE
0:01:05 > 0:01:07How are you getting on, Jim? I'm doing fine, Paddy.
0:01:07 > 0:01:08Tell us a little bit about yourself.
0:01:08 > 0:01:10Well, I'm Jim, I'm 49,
0:01:10 > 0:01:13I'm an army warrant officer originally from Aberdeen, now live in Staines.
0:01:13 > 0:01:16I'm married to Simone for 27 years now.
0:01:16 > 0:01:18So, you're used to actually taking charge of people
0:01:18 > 0:01:22and whipping them into shape. Oh, definitely, yes.
0:01:22 > 0:01:25You also like a little bit of theatre.
0:01:25 > 0:01:28I do. I love pantomime, farces, stuff like that.
0:01:28 > 0:01:32I actually wrote a couple of pantomimes myself when I was out in Germany in the army.
0:01:32 > 0:01:36Which ones? I wrote an original one called Cinderella 2: The Wedding.
0:01:36 > 0:01:40That panto started where the traditional Cinderella finished off.
0:01:40 > 0:01:43And Nigel is going to do Cinderella at the London Palladium.
0:01:43 > 0:01:45I'm playing Cinderella.
0:01:45 > 0:01:46CHRISTOPHER LAUGHS LOUDLY
0:01:46 > 0:01:49And that's the rewrite. That is the rewrite.
0:01:50 > 0:01:54OK, Jim, let's get this Debatable show on the road
0:01:54 > 0:01:55as we play Round One!
0:01:58 > 0:02:00Jim, this round is multiple choice.
0:02:00 > 0:02:04Each question has four possible answers, but only one is correct.
0:02:04 > 0:02:08Helping you find the correct answer, as always...
0:02:08 > 0:02:10is our panel.
0:02:10 > 0:02:14Two questions in this round - each question is worth ?200.
0:02:14 > 0:02:15Happy to play?
0:02:15 > 0:02:18Let's do it. Here we go, let's get cracking.
0:02:39 > 0:02:42Right, I know Macbeth was definitely real
0:02:42 > 0:02:45so my initial reaction, I think, is going to go with Sherlock Holmes.
0:02:45 > 0:02:48I haven't heard of Cardinal Richelieu
0:02:48 > 0:02:50so my initial reaction would be Sherlock.
0:02:50 > 0:02:53Let's go to our panel. Your debate starts now.
0:02:53 > 0:02:56In the theatre, if you say "Macbeth" in your dressing room...
0:02:56 > 0:02:59Oh, it's a disaster. It means that the play will be a total
0:02:59 > 0:03:02disaster that night. You have to ask people to go leave your dressing
0:03:02 > 0:03:07room, shut the door and knock three times and then only come in when the
0:03:07 > 0:03:09person in the dressing room says, "Come in."
0:03:09 > 0:03:12So, there we are. He was definitely real.
0:03:12 > 0:03:14Definitely real. Definitely real.
0:03:14 > 0:03:16Cardinal Richelieu... ..was one of the Musketeers.
0:03:16 > 0:03:18He wasn't a Musketeer, he was a villain.
0:03:18 > 0:03:20He was an evil man, wasn't he?
0:03:20 > 0:03:22He was and there's definitely a Jane.
0:03:22 > 0:03:24I wonder why she's called Calamity Jane.
0:03:24 > 0:03:26I mean, everything was a disaster.
0:03:26 > 0:03:28She couldn't find a man, she couldn't do this...
0:03:28 > 0:03:30She couldn't find a man, that's right.
0:03:30 > 0:03:33Even though, it's interesting, because Sherlock Holmes, of course,
0:03:33 > 0:03:37does have an address in London in Baker Street.
0:03:37 > 0:03:41Sherlock Holmes is a creation from a wonderful writer called
0:03:41 > 0:03:45Arthur Conan Doyle. Oh, Arthur Conan Doyle!
0:03:45 > 0:03:48So I think the conclusion would be...
0:03:48 > 0:03:51Sherlock Holmes. Yeah? Definitely.
0:03:51 > 0:03:55We all agree that the character that is fictional
0:03:55 > 0:03:56is Sherlock Holmes.
0:03:58 > 0:04:02So, Jim, you've heard what our panel say, but what do you think?
0:04:02 > 0:04:03Well, thanks to the panel.
0:04:03 > 0:04:05That's cleared up who Cardinal Richelieu is.
0:04:05 > 0:04:07I'm none the wiser,
0:04:07 > 0:04:09but I'll take their word on that
0:04:09 > 0:04:11and I'm going to stick to my original gut
0:04:11 > 0:04:13and the panel's decision with Sherlock Holmes.
0:04:13 > 0:04:16OK, you're saying Sherlock Holmes.
0:04:16 > 0:04:18It was the choice of our panel, as well.
0:04:18 > 0:04:22To get us up and running for ?200, was Sherlock Holmes fictional?
0:04:27 > 0:04:28Yes, it is the correct answer.
0:04:29 > 0:04:31Well done. Thank you!
0:04:31 > 0:04:32Sherlock the fictional character
0:04:32 > 0:04:35was created by Arthur Conan Doyle.
0:04:35 > 0:04:39Cardinal Richelieu was the chief of government under Louis XIII.
0:04:39 > 0:04:43Calamity Jane was an American frontierswoman.
0:04:43 > 0:04:45Macbeth was a former king of Scotland
0:04:45 > 0:04:47and a Shakespeare character.
0:04:47 > 0:04:50Well done, Jim. ?200 in the prize pot.
0:04:50 > 0:04:52APPLAUSE
0:04:55 > 0:04:56Here's your next question.
0:05:17 > 0:05:19Right, before the answers came up,
0:05:19 > 0:05:21I was thinking Happy Birthday To You,
0:05:21 > 0:05:23but then God Save The Queen came up
0:05:23 > 0:05:25so that's put a little bit of doubt in my mind.
0:05:25 > 0:05:29So, yeah, I'd be interested to hear what the panel has to say on this.
0:05:29 > 0:05:32Let's see what our panel makes of this. Your debate starts now.
0:05:32 > 0:05:36You know, it's odd that in 2016 God Save The Queen is going
0:05:36 > 0:05:39to be VERY recognisable because of her birthday.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41Yes, exactly, they play it all the time.
0:05:41 > 0:05:44Every morning I get up, I play it.
0:05:44 > 0:05:47Do you? Yeah, because I'm glad that I'm alive that morning.
0:05:47 > 0:05:49Do you, really? Yes. Do you stand?
0:05:49 > 0:05:50No, I stand when I get out of bed.
0:05:50 > 0:05:53Oh, I see. Do you have it on a CD player by your bed?
0:05:53 > 0:05:56Yeah, and with God Save The Queen and I always touch it like that,
0:05:56 > 0:05:58I get out of bed and I'm awake.
0:05:58 > 0:06:00When I first went to the cinema as a very young man,
0:06:00 > 0:06:03they always played God Save The Queen before the film.
0:06:03 > 0:06:05Yes, they did! And we all stood.
0:06:05 > 0:06:07I don't remember... Only a few years ago!
0:06:09 > 0:06:11The question, it's "in the English language".
0:06:11 > 0:06:14The English language is spoken all over the world. Yes.
0:06:14 > 0:06:17For He's A Jolly Good Fellow might not go all over the world.
0:06:17 > 0:06:20No. I mean, how often do you sing For He's A Jolly Good Fellow?
0:06:20 > 0:06:22Well, I hardly sing it at all.
0:06:22 > 0:06:25Exactly, nor do I. That's it and we live in the UK.
0:06:25 > 0:06:27ALL SING: # For he's a jolly good fellow
0:06:27 > 0:06:29# For he's a jolly good fellow
0:06:29 > 0:06:30# For he's a jolly good fellow
0:06:30 > 0:06:32# And so say all of us! #
0:06:32 > 0:06:34So, there we go. I don't think it's that, anyway.
0:06:34 > 0:06:36I think if were talking,
0:06:36 > 0:06:38it's between God Save The Queen and Happy Birthday To You.
0:06:38 > 0:06:41Well, the Commonwealth countries would all...
0:06:41 > 0:06:43It's definitely Happy Birthday To You. But everybody sings...
0:06:43 > 0:06:46Everybody has a birthday. I mean, how many birthdays are there?
0:06:46 > 0:06:49Who here doesn't have a birthday? Millions of birthdays!
0:06:49 > 0:06:51And do you know the words to God Save The Queen? Er...
0:06:51 > 0:06:54You should. You play it every morning! Oh, yes, sorry!
0:06:56 > 0:06:58Only that phrase!
0:06:58 > 0:07:01So, we're going to go with...
0:07:01 > 0:07:03Happy Birthday. Happy Birthday? Yeah, yeah.
0:07:03 > 0:07:06The panel has agreed that the most recognised song
0:07:06 > 0:07:10in the English language is Happy Birthday To You.
0:07:11 > 0:07:15Er, Jim, our panel have very astutely recognised that everyone
0:07:15 > 0:07:17has a birthday.
0:07:17 > 0:07:18LAUGHTER
0:07:19 > 0:07:22God Save The Queen - interesting Nigel remembers the cinemas
0:07:22 > 0:07:24that they used to play it before the films.
0:07:24 > 0:07:27They still do it in the forces cinemas and in the mobile cinemas.
0:07:27 > 0:07:28Yeah, we all stand to attention.
0:07:28 > 0:07:32I'm going to take on board the fact that everyone's got a birthday and
0:07:32 > 0:07:35that not all English-speaking countries have the Queen
0:07:35 > 0:07:38as their head of state so I'm going to stick with the panel again
0:07:38 > 0:07:40and go with Happy Birthday To You.
0:07:41 > 0:07:44So, you're going for Happy Birthday To You,
0:07:44 > 0:07:46going with the panel once again.
0:07:46 > 0:07:49For ?200, the correct answer is...
0:07:55 > 0:07:59Yes! Happy Birthday To You is the correct answer.
0:07:59 > 0:08:00Well done. Cheers!
0:08:00 > 0:08:02Well played. Thank you, panel.
0:08:02 > 0:08:05That's another ?200 in the bank, bringing your total at the end
0:08:05 > 0:08:07of Round One to ?400. Well done!
0:08:07 > 0:08:12And thank you, panel. 100% for Jim, 100% for our panel.
0:08:12 > 0:08:15They're looking quite smug with themselves, they've got two out of two.
0:08:15 > 0:08:17Anyone there standing out for you?
0:08:17 > 0:08:19They've all got a wealth of knowledge.
0:08:19 > 0:08:22"Wealth of knowledge" is good. Yeah, we like that.
0:08:22 > 0:08:25Pay close attention because you're only going to be able to pick
0:08:25 > 0:08:28one of these fine, upstanding human beings to help you
0:08:28 > 0:08:29with today's final debate.
0:08:29 > 0:08:31Let's see how they cope with pictures.
0:08:31 > 0:08:33It is time for Round Two.
0:08:36 > 0:08:38Round Two is our picture round, Jim.
0:08:38 > 0:08:42All you have to do is place three pictures in the correct order.
0:08:42 > 0:08:47Two questions again in this round and ?300 for each correct answer.
0:08:47 > 0:08:49So, let's see if we can keep our 100% record.
0:08:49 > 0:08:51Here's your first question.
0:09:07 > 0:09:10My initial reaction is Beyonce's probably the oldest
0:09:10 > 0:09:13cos I remember her way, way back in Destiny's Child.
0:09:13 > 0:09:16I'm not 100% sure, to be honest,
0:09:16 > 0:09:19so again I'm going to see what the panel have got, I think.
0:09:19 > 0:09:22OK, panel, your debate starts now.
0:09:22 > 0:09:24I must just say one thing -
0:09:24 > 0:09:27I would not dare, or wish, to put them in any order.
0:09:27 > 0:09:29I'd like to put them all in the same order cos that would be
0:09:29 > 0:09:32the polite thing to do.
0:09:32 > 0:09:34And Joan Collins is absolutely...
0:09:34 > 0:09:37She gets demented when people mention age.
0:09:37 > 0:09:40Joan Collins, whatever her age is, she thinks,
0:09:40 > 0:09:44"That's ridiculous because I don't look that age," so she could play
0:09:44 > 0:09:46younger. We're both great friends of Joan. We are.
0:09:46 > 0:09:49I think, though, interestingly enough, your point was very good,
0:09:49 > 0:09:51Jim, about Beyonce,
0:09:51 > 0:09:54but I think Beyonce was very young when she did Destiny's Child.
0:09:54 > 0:09:56I think she was really young.
0:09:56 > 0:09:59From those pictures, I think Lady Gaga looks the eldest.
0:09:59 > 0:10:01But I think she's the youngest.
0:10:01 > 0:10:03You think she's younger than Katy Perry?
0:10:03 > 0:10:06I do. Let's just see how it looks.
0:10:06 > 0:10:08Youngest there. OK.
0:10:08 > 0:10:10And then we'll do... We have to go Beyonce there.
0:10:10 > 0:10:12What do you think? How does that stack up?
0:10:12 > 0:10:14I'm not sure.
0:10:14 > 0:10:17Katy Perry and Lady Gaga sort of came on the scene
0:10:17 > 0:10:18at a similarish time.
0:10:18 > 0:10:21Yeah, but Lady Gaga was writing, though, wasn't she,
0:10:21 > 0:10:24a long time before she became a star? Yes.
0:10:24 > 0:10:26Your gut instinct says that, doesn't it? There we are.
0:10:26 > 0:10:29I think that's right. We've now made up our minds.
0:10:29 > 0:10:32The youngest, we think, is Katy Perry. Mmm.
0:10:32 > 0:10:34Then Lady Gaga
0:10:34 > 0:10:36and the eldest, may I say, is Beyonce.
0:10:39 > 0:10:42You've heard what our panel say, but what do you think?
0:10:42 > 0:10:46I understand the point of view that Beyonce was very young
0:10:46 > 0:10:48when Destiny's Child -
0:10:48 > 0:10:50the clue being in the name of the band - were around,
0:10:50 > 0:10:54but she also did a film with Mike Myers, the Austin Powers film.
0:10:56 > 0:11:00That was before he went on to do Shrek so that was a long time ago as
0:11:00 > 0:11:03well and she was definitely an adult then so I'm sticking
0:11:03 > 0:11:04with Beyonce being the oldest.
0:11:05 > 0:11:10Katy Perry, I believe, first came to prominence about 2008,
0:11:10 > 0:11:162009 and she was 23 around then and Lady Gaga probably the year after,
0:11:16 > 0:11:21but I think she wasn't well known till she was about 25 so by that,
0:11:21 > 0:11:23I don't think there's much between them,
0:11:23 > 0:11:26but I'm actually going to stick with the panel's final verdict
0:11:26 > 0:11:29and go Katy Perry, Lady Gaga and Beyonce.
0:11:29 > 0:11:31OK, let's lock it in.
0:11:31 > 0:11:34Jim has gone with the panel.
0:11:34 > 0:11:35For ?300...
0:11:36 > 0:11:38..is that the correct order?
0:11:45 > 0:11:48Oh! It's the wrong order.
0:11:48 > 0:11:50Let's see the correct order, Jim.
0:11:53 > 0:11:55Nigel was actually right.
0:11:55 > 0:11:59It was Lady Gaga the youngest, then Katy Perry, then Beyonce.
0:11:59 > 0:12:01Lady Gaga born '86,
0:12:01 > 0:12:02Katy Perry born '84,
0:12:02 > 0:12:04Beyonce born '81.
0:12:04 > 0:12:06I told you so!
0:12:06 > 0:12:08He said she'd been writing for ages.
0:12:08 > 0:12:10She had!
0:12:10 > 0:12:14Beyonce founded Destiny's Child when she was...
0:12:14 > 0:12:16nine years old.
0:12:16 > 0:12:17No! Yes!
0:12:17 > 0:12:19Nine? Yes!
0:12:19 > 0:12:20Wow! Fantastic.
0:12:20 > 0:12:23Marvellous! So, our panel breaks their winning streak.
0:12:23 > 0:12:25Unfortunately no cash for that,
0:12:25 > 0:12:28but there's still another question in the round, still worth 300.
0:12:28 > 0:12:30Let's see if we can get hold of that. Here it comes.
0:12:49 > 0:12:54I think I know the furthest south being Uluru in Australia.
0:12:54 > 0:12:56Erm... Obviously the Great Wall Of China is in China,
0:12:56 > 0:12:59but Mount Kilimanjaro, I believe, is in Africa, but...
0:13:01 > 0:13:05I just wouldn't know in relation to where the Great Wall Of China is cos
0:13:05 > 0:13:07they're both very large countries.
0:13:07 > 0:13:09OK, that's your first thought.
0:13:09 > 0:13:12Panel, can we shed any light on this? Your debate starts now.
0:13:12 > 0:13:15You see that picture of Uluru? Mmm.
0:13:15 > 0:13:17I camped out the night looking just like...
0:13:17 > 0:13:19You camped there, did you?
0:13:19 > 0:13:20I've camped there, too.
0:13:20 > 0:13:21Did you? I did.
0:13:21 > 0:13:24The rock looks just like that, doesn't it? Yeah, it glows at night.
0:13:24 > 0:13:27It's the most extraordinary place I've ever been to.
0:13:27 > 0:13:30Would you not agree, Biggins, that that is the furthest south?
0:13:30 > 0:13:33Oh, without doubt, without doubt.
0:13:33 > 0:13:35Now we get into the real problem area.
0:13:35 > 0:13:37Mount Kilimanjaro is Africa.
0:13:37 > 0:13:39It is in Tanzania.
0:13:39 > 0:13:41Yeah, which is also south.
0:13:41 > 0:13:44I've been on the Great Wall of China,
0:13:44 > 0:13:47but what is fascinating about it, it is THAT steep.
0:13:47 > 0:13:50I was always impressed because the Queen did it just before...
0:13:50 > 0:13:53Not the same day, but she did it a few months before
0:13:53 > 0:13:55and I was amazed cos she...
0:13:55 > 0:13:58I mean, poor girl having to walk up that
0:13:58 > 0:14:00very, very steep incline.
0:14:00 > 0:14:02You need some decent trekking shoes for that.
0:14:02 > 0:14:06You do, you do and of course you're never aware of the length of it when
0:14:06 > 0:14:09you're there because the only place I think is when you're in space,
0:14:09 > 0:14:11you can see the actual...
0:14:11 > 0:14:14And Tanzania is sort of in the middle of Africa, isn't it,
0:14:14 > 0:14:16to the right. Isn't that right?
0:14:16 > 0:14:18It is, but, you know...
0:14:18 > 0:14:20I'm trying to visualise it on a...
0:14:20 > 0:14:22China does a bit of that, doesn't it?
0:14:22 > 0:14:27Yeah, it does, but I think the Great Wall is up a bit in China.
0:14:27 > 0:14:28It is. You've been there.
0:14:28 > 0:14:30I've been there. It was up a bit.
0:14:30 > 0:14:32I think it was up a bit.
0:14:32 > 0:14:33Right. Oh, dear!
0:14:34 > 0:14:35I'm not entirely sure.
0:14:35 > 0:14:38I have a feeling it's like this.
0:14:38 > 0:14:41Let's do that feeling.
0:14:41 > 0:14:43You don't think so, do you?
0:14:43 > 0:14:44OK, we'll stick to that.
0:14:45 > 0:14:48We've made up our minds and we think this is the order.
0:14:48 > 0:14:50Southern Uluru,
0:14:50 > 0:14:51then Mount Kilimanjaro
0:14:51 > 0:14:53followed by the northern
0:14:53 > 0:14:54Great Wall Of China.
0:14:56 > 0:14:58That's the thoughts of the panel.
0:14:58 > 0:15:00Anything in there? Yeah.
0:15:00 > 0:15:04It actually threw me a bit of a curveball because I was counting on
0:15:04 > 0:15:06Kilimanjaro being southern hemisphere
0:15:06 > 0:15:08and Great Wall being northern,
0:15:08 > 0:15:12but the panel all seemed in agreement that Kilimanjaro
0:15:12 > 0:15:14is in Tanzania, which is in the north hemisphere
0:15:14 > 0:15:16so that's put a bit of doubt in my mind,
0:15:16 > 0:15:23but I think I've been persuaded by Biggins saying it was up there
0:15:23 > 0:15:28in China so I'm going to stick with the panel on this one
0:15:28 > 0:15:31and go Uluru, Kilimanjaro, Great Wall of China.
0:15:32 > 0:15:33All righty, let's lock it in.
0:15:33 > 0:15:37For ?300, is that the correct order?
0:15:44 > 0:15:45Yes! It is!
0:15:46 > 0:15:49Well done! Let's see them on the map.
0:15:50 > 0:15:53There we go. Uluru, formerly known as Ayers Rock,
0:15:53 > 0:15:55sat at the bottom of a sea,
0:15:55 > 0:15:59but today stands at 348 metres above the ground.
0:15:59 > 0:16:00Contrary to popular belief,
0:16:00 > 0:16:03the Great Wall Of China can't be seen from space...
0:16:03 > 0:16:06Oh! ..by the naked eye.
0:16:06 > 0:16:10Well done! At the end of that round, your prize pot is up to ?700.
0:16:10 > 0:16:12Thank you! Well played.
0:16:12 > 0:16:14Thanks. Nice work.
0:16:14 > 0:16:16Now, how's our panel working out for you, Jim?
0:16:16 > 0:16:18Which one is standing out?
0:16:18 > 0:16:21Er, it probably is Biggins
0:16:21 > 0:16:25just shading it in the knowledge of the Great Wall Of China there so at
0:16:25 > 0:16:27the minute, it would be Biggins.
0:16:27 > 0:16:29At the moment, it's Biggins.
0:16:29 > 0:16:32Still ?1,000 up for grabs as we play Round Three.
0:16:34 > 0:16:37Jim, in this round, you will face questions that contain
0:16:37 > 0:16:41three statements which relate to a person, a place or a thing.
0:16:41 > 0:16:43Only one of those statements, though, is correct.
0:16:43 > 0:16:45You must decide which one it is.
0:16:45 > 0:16:48Two questions in this round, and because it's our final round,
0:16:48 > 0:16:50the money goes up to ?500 a question,
0:16:50 > 0:16:53so let's see what we can do with this. Here it comes.
0:17:15 > 0:17:18I know B is definitely false
0:17:18 > 0:17:21because her mother was Anne Boleyn and she did
0:17:21 > 0:17:24not get the pleasure of a divorce from Henry.
0:17:24 > 0:17:25She lost her head.
0:17:27 > 0:17:30So, initially, it's going to be A or C for me,
0:17:30 > 0:17:33but I'm going to listen to the panel's advice on that.
0:17:33 > 0:17:37OK, panel, your debate starts now.
0:17:37 > 0:17:39Mother divorced her father Henry VIII?
0:17:39 > 0:17:42I agree with Jim there. Spot on, Anne Boleyn.
0:17:42 > 0:17:45Because his first wife, he divorced.
0:17:45 > 0:17:48Yeah, divorced-beheaded-died, divorced-beheaded-survived.
0:17:48 > 0:17:51And that first divorce changed the constitution.
0:17:51 > 0:17:53Yeah, that made the Church of England, didn't it?
0:17:53 > 0:17:56The monasteries were dissolved. I know, the arrogance of the man!
0:17:56 > 0:17:59When I was doing my A-levels in history,
0:17:59 > 0:18:01I wrote something in that way,
0:18:01 > 0:18:04saying, "Outrageous behaviour," and I was heavily criticised for saying
0:18:04 > 0:18:07it. Oh, really?! Yes, because Henry VIII was deified.
0:18:08 > 0:18:11Shakespeare was living when she died.
0:18:11 > 0:18:13Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
0:18:13 > 0:18:16The last one I know happens, having studied Tudor history...
0:18:16 > 0:18:18To be true? ..to be true. Yes.
0:18:18 > 0:18:20Because the next monarch was James I of England
0:18:20 > 0:18:23and the VI of Scotland, who was a Stuart. Yeah.
0:18:24 > 0:18:26Anyway, yes, so we're going for...
0:18:26 > 0:18:29We're going to go for the last one, I think so, definitely.
0:18:29 > 0:18:32Are we in agreement? Yeah, I agree. We are united.
0:18:32 > 0:18:34Jim, it's C.
0:18:35 > 0:18:37Elizabeth I is the last Tudor monarch.
0:18:40 > 0:18:44They're pretty sure that Elizabeth I is the last Tudor monarch.
0:18:44 > 0:18:47Yeah, and I tend to agree with them.
0:18:47 > 0:18:49I still don't know what year Shakespeare died
0:18:49 > 0:18:51or what year Elizabeth died.
0:18:51 > 0:18:54However, when they mentioned James I, he was a Stuart.
0:18:54 > 0:18:56Trying to think if there was a Tudor
0:18:56 > 0:18:59then came back as has happened in the past with other houses,
0:18:59 > 0:19:03but then I believe it was Charles I,
0:19:03 > 0:19:04then Oliver Cromwell,
0:19:04 > 0:19:07then Charles II so I'm pretty sure there was no Tudor
0:19:07 > 0:19:08came back after Elizabeth
0:19:08 > 0:19:12so I'm going to go with the panel on last Tudor monarch.
0:19:12 > 0:19:14Let's lock it in.
0:19:14 > 0:19:16All in agreement for ?500,
0:19:16 > 0:19:20was Elizabeth I the last Tudor monarch?
0:19:25 > 0:19:27Yes! She was!
0:19:27 > 0:19:29Well played, panel, very nice work.
0:19:29 > 0:19:32Congratulations, Jim, well done. Thank you, Paddy.
0:19:32 > 0:19:33Elizabeth was the last Tudor monarch.
0:19:33 > 0:19:35She was succeeded by the Stuarts -
0:19:35 > 0:19:37James I of Great Britain.
0:19:37 > 0:19:42Shakespeare died 13 years after Elizabeth in 1616.
0:19:42 > 0:19:45Elizabeth's mother was Anne Boleyn,
0:19:45 > 0:19:48who was beheaded by her husband Henry VIII and not divorced.
0:19:48 > 0:19:51Well done, really good knowledge there.
0:19:51 > 0:19:53?500 added to your prize pot.
0:19:53 > 0:19:55You're now up to ?1,200.
0:19:55 > 0:19:56APPLAUSE
0:19:59 > 0:20:02We can still get that up to 1,700 for your final debate.
0:20:02 > 0:20:05?500 up for grabs with our final question.
0:20:26 > 0:20:30I saw something on the television recently that New York is the most
0:20:30 > 0:20:32populous US city
0:20:32 > 0:20:34so I'm pretty sure it's not C.
0:20:34 > 0:20:36I'm struggling between A and B.
0:20:36 > 0:20:38I'll be interested to get the panel's take on it,
0:20:38 > 0:20:40see if they can help me out.
0:20:40 > 0:20:41Panel, can we sort this out for Jim?
0:20:41 > 0:20:43For ?500, the debate starts now.
0:20:44 > 0:20:47It is very populated. It is very populated cos it's got some
0:20:47 > 0:20:52high-rise buildings, though. But most of them are office blocks.
0:20:52 > 0:20:56I'm not sure how many people actually live in New York City.
0:20:56 > 0:20:59But it's very densely populated, isn't it?
0:20:59 > 0:21:02But it's not that big and I also know...
0:21:02 > 0:21:04Well, let's go for the first one.
0:21:04 > 0:21:07Brooklyn is actually on the mainland, it's not... Yes.
0:21:07 > 0:21:11Manhattan, which is New York City, is an island.
0:21:11 > 0:21:13Am I right? Yep.
0:21:13 > 0:21:16But that sliver of an island has...
0:21:16 > 0:21:18You cross a bridge north of it and south of it.
0:21:18 > 0:21:20Yeah. You're absolutely right.
0:21:20 > 0:21:24So, Brooklyn can't be the only mainland borough. No.
0:21:24 > 0:21:26So I think we'll... We'll discount that.
0:21:26 > 0:21:28Shall we discount that? But, funnily enough,
0:21:28 > 0:21:32I have a feeling the first national capital was before...
0:21:32 > 0:21:34And I think you're right, they built Washington later.
0:21:34 > 0:21:37They did and then they named that the capital afterwards.
0:21:37 > 0:21:41They built Washington to move all the politics...
0:21:41 > 0:21:43Yeah, to get it out of New York.
0:21:43 > 0:21:45Because Manhattan's not big enough.
0:21:45 > 0:21:46I think we have to go with Jim
0:21:46 > 0:21:49because I think he's just heard that, or read it.
0:21:49 > 0:21:50So, the first national capital of the USA.
0:21:50 > 0:21:53The answer is B -
0:21:53 > 0:21:56New York City is the first national capital of the USA.
0:21:59 > 0:22:01They've gone for capital.
0:22:01 > 0:22:06I'm sticking to my memory of television programmes
0:22:06 > 0:22:08that said New York was the most populous
0:22:08 > 0:22:11so I'm going to go with the panel again and say that
0:22:11 > 0:22:14it's the first national capital of USA.
0:22:14 > 0:22:17You weren't sure about this, but the panel has taken you towards B.
0:22:17 > 0:22:19For ?500...
0:22:19 > 0:22:21No pressure, panel.
0:22:21 > 0:22:23The correct answer is...
0:22:29 > 0:22:31Phew! It is!
0:22:32 > 0:22:33Well done! Thank you.
0:22:33 > 0:22:36It is the first national capital of the USA between
0:22:36 > 0:22:391785 and 1790.
0:22:39 > 0:22:43The only borough that lies on the mainland is the Bronx.
0:22:43 > 0:22:45Population of LA -
0:22:45 > 0:22:47only four million,
0:22:47 > 0:22:51and the population of New York City is around eight million.
0:22:51 > 0:22:54So, at the end of Round Three, your prize pot
0:22:54 > 0:22:56is ?1,700. Thank you.
0:22:58 > 0:23:01And that's the amount you're going to be playing for
0:23:01 > 0:23:03in our final debate.
0:23:03 > 0:23:06Now, if you win that cash, Jim, any plans for the money?
0:23:06 > 0:23:10I'm actually moving house later on in the year
0:23:10 > 0:23:14so that'll go towards the deposit and all the initial
0:23:14 > 0:23:17house-moving costs as well. That'll help a long way towards that.
0:23:17 > 0:23:20OK. Well, there's just one question that stands between you
0:23:20 > 0:23:23and the money - that is today's final debate.
0:23:23 > 0:23:26In the final debate, Jim, you're going to have only one question,
0:23:26 > 0:23:29but that question will have six possible answers
0:23:29 > 0:23:31and in order to win the cash,
0:23:31 > 0:23:34I'm going to need the three correct answers.
0:23:34 > 0:23:36As before, you're not playing alone.
0:23:36 > 0:23:39You will choose one of these fine panellists
0:23:39 > 0:23:40to help you in your debate.
0:23:40 > 0:23:43You and your celebrity will then have 45 seconds
0:23:43 > 0:23:46to debate the question, so who's it going to be?
0:23:49 > 0:23:52Well, based on the fact that they changed my mind twice,
0:23:52 > 0:23:55which got me quite a lot of money, I'm going to go with Biggins.
0:23:55 > 0:23:57Yeah! OK, Biggins.
0:24:02 > 0:24:05So, Biggins, Jim has chosen you for the final debate.
0:24:05 > 0:24:08How do you feel? Oh, how do I feel?
0:24:08 > 0:24:10Yes! Marvellous! I'm very excited for you, Jim.
0:24:10 > 0:24:14I want to get that deposit for your house and all those charges
0:24:14 > 0:24:16for taking your furniture back to the new...
0:24:16 > 0:24:18Oh, yes, we're going to do it, definitely.
0:24:18 > 0:24:20All right, Jim, because this is the final debate,
0:24:20 > 0:24:22you've two categories to choose from.
0:24:22 > 0:24:24Which one would you like to go with?
0:24:24 > 0:24:26Here they come.
0:24:30 > 0:24:31What's your sport like, Biggins?
0:24:31 > 0:24:33Terrible, but I know your sport's good, isn't it?
0:24:33 > 0:24:35It depends which sport.
0:24:35 > 0:24:37Mythology.
0:24:37 > 0:24:39Mythology, I'm not great at.
0:24:39 > 0:24:41No, -ologies are not very good, are they?
0:24:41 > 0:24:43We need Maureen Lipman here. Erm...
0:24:43 > 0:24:45I would have more chance with Sport. Yes, let's go with Sport.
0:24:45 > 0:24:47So we'll go with Sport. Definitely.
0:24:47 > 0:24:49OK, you've chosen Sport.
0:24:51 > 0:24:52Best of luck, Jim. Thank you.
0:24:52 > 0:24:55Best of luck, Biggins. I'm going to need it!
0:24:55 > 0:24:59For ?1,700, here's your final debate question.
0:25:28 > 0:25:32For the final time today, your debate starts now.
0:25:32 > 0:25:35Well, I would have thought Wembley, Twickenham and Silverstone.
0:25:35 > 0:25:39Yeah. I know Wembley's got more than Old Trafford. Yes.
0:25:39 > 0:25:43Twickenham, I believe, is round about 60,000-70,000. Absolutely.
0:25:43 > 0:25:46Wimbledon Centre Court is out, it's only 15,000.
0:25:46 > 0:25:49And I would have thought Lord's Cricket Ground is out. Yeah.
0:25:49 > 0:25:52And Silverstone is a big... Yeah, cos it's spread out.
0:25:52 > 0:25:55I'm just not sure between Old Trafford and Twickenham
0:25:55 > 0:25:58because I know Old Trafford is big.
0:25:58 > 0:26:00Is it? Yeah, but I'm not...
0:26:00 > 0:26:03I don't have the capacity off the top of my head.
0:26:03 > 0:26:05Twickenham... Erm...
0:26:05 > 0:26:07That is huge, isn't it, for the rugby?
0:26:07 > 0:26:09Yeah. Erm...
0:26:09 > 0:26:11I think Twickenham's about 80,000 so...
0:26:12 > 0:26:15We'll go... Yeah, I think we should go Wembley, Twickenham, Silverstone.
0:26:15 > 0:26:17I think that's quite a good choice.
0:26:17 > 0:26:21Time's up, Jim. Paddy, I'm going to go, even though I'm not sure,
0:26:21 > 0:26:25with Wembley, Twickenham, Silverstone.
0:26:25 > 0:26:29All right, Jim, if they are all correct it's ?1,700.
0:26:29 > 0:26:32If one of them is wrong, I'm afraid you do leave with nothing.
0:26:32 > 0:26:33Best of luck, here we go.
0:26:34 > 0:26:38Is Wembley Stadium one of the three largest sporting venues?
0:26:45 > 0:26:46It is!
0:26:49 > 0:26:52Well done, 90,000 capacity at Wembley.
0:26:54 > 0:26:58Let's see if Silverstone can keep us on track.
0:26:58 > 0:27:00Is Silverstone one of the three largest?
0:27:07 > 0:27:10Well done!
0:27:10 > 0:27:12Silverstone, the largest by quite a way.
0:27:12 > 0:27:16It's actually 150,000 so well done, well played.
0:27:16 > 0:27:18You then said Twickenham.
0:27:18 > 0:27:20You were debating that and Old Trafford,
0:27:20 > 0:27:23you thought they were in and around the same capacity.
0:27:25 > 0:27:27Ohhh, dear!
0:27:29 > 0:27:34Here we go. So, is Twickenham correct for ?1,700?
0:27:44 > 0:27:45Yes!
0:27:48 > 0:27:50Well done! Well played, Jim.
0:27:50 > 0:27:53Thank you! Brilliant! Very well done!
0:27:53 > 0:27:55Twickenham, 82,000.
0:27:55 > 0:27:58Very, very close to Old Trafford in Manchester
0:27:58 > 0:28:0276,000. Oh... 6,000 in it. You were right, Biggins.
0:28:02 > 0:28:05Lord's Cricket Ground one of the smallest, 28,000,
0:28:05 > 0:28:08and then we had Wimbledon Centre Court, 15,000.
0:28:08 > 0:28:11Very well worked out, very well played, Jim.
0:28:11 > 0:28:13You leave today with ?1,700!
0:28:13 > 0:28:14APPLAUSE
0:28:17 > 0:28:19Very well done.
0:28:19 > 0:28:22That's it for Debatable.
0:28:22 > 0:28:24There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel -
0:28:24 > 0:28:27Christopher Biggins, Konnie Huq and Nigel Havers!
0:28:27 > 0:28:29I do hope you've enjoyed watching.
0:28:29 > 0:28:31We will see you next time for more heated debates.
0:28:31 > 0:28:33For now, it's goodbye from me.
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