0:00:09 > 0:00:11APPLAUSE
0:00:14 > 0:00:18Hello and welcome to Debatable, the quiz show where talk is cheap but
0:00:18 > 0:00:21celebrity chat can win a contestant money.
0:00:21 > 0:00:25Today, one player must answer a series of tricky questions to
0:00:25 > 0:00:28try to bag our jackpot of ?2,000.
0:00:28 > 0:00:30But they are not on their own.
0:00:30 > 0:00:33They'll also have a panel of celebrity brain boxes,
0:00:33 > 0:00:37debating their way to the answer.
0:00:37 > 0:00:40Will they help, or will they hinder? Well, that's debatable.
0:00:40 > 0:00:45Let's meet them. On today's show we have actress Sunetra Sarker.
0:00:45 > 0:00:47We have weather presenter Carol Kirkwood
0:00:47 > 0:00:50and writer and broadcaster Rick Edwards.
0:00:50 > 0:00:52APPLAUSE
0:00:55 > 0:00:58That is our panel. Let's meet today's contestant.
0:00:58 > 0:01:01It is Danielle Harvie from London!
0:01:03 > 0:01:06Dani, how are you doing? I'm very well, thank you, Patrick.
0:01:06 > 0:01:08OK, so Dani, tell us a little bit about yourself.
0:01:08 > 0:01:12I'm 34, I live in Hampstead in North London with my husband, Ben,
0:01:12 > 0:01:14and my daughter Eleanor, who's ten months old.
0:01:14 > 0:01:16Where did you and Ben meet?
0:01:16 > 0:01:17We met at university.
0:01:17 > 0:01:21We married six years ago in Las Vegas. Oh, come on!
0:01:21 > 0:01:25It was a last-minute thing so we were going on holiday to
0:01:25 > 0:01:28Vegas and we said, you know, we've been together for ten years,
0:01:28 > 0:01:30let's get married.
0:01:30 > 0:01:33Hey! And we did, yeah. Let's go to Vegas, we're getting married!
0:01:36 > 0:01:38And what do you do in your spare time?
0:01:38 > 0:01:41I'm a stay at home mum, so I look after Eleanor.
0:01:41 > 0:01:42I watch a lot of Teletubbies.
0:01:42 > 0:01:45I build lots of bricks and things like that.
0:01:45 > 0:01:47What subjects are you hoping are going to come up today?
0:01:47 > 0:01:52I'm quite into music but only very particular genres of music.
0:01:52 > 0:01:56In my head it's still 1996. Isn't it?
0:01:56 > 0:01:58I still listen to a lot of Blur, a lot of Morrissey,
0:01:58 > 0:02:01that sort of Britpop kind of stuff.
0:02:01 > 0:02:04Fantastic! Let's see if we can get you some cash today.
0:02:04 > 0:02:07Let's get the show on the road and play Round One.
0:02:09 > 0:02:13This round is multiple choice. Each question has four possible answers.
0:02:13 > 0:02:16Only one of those, Dani, is correct.
0:02:16 > 0:02:20Helping you find the answer is our panel.
0:02:20 > 0:02:22You can go with what they say, or you can go your own way,
0:02:22 > 0:02:24it is entirely up to you.
0:02:24 > 0:02:27There are two questions in this round, each question is worth ?200.
0:02:27 > 0:02:29OK. Ready to play? Yes, I am.
0:02:29 > 0:02:31Here we go. Let's get cracking.
0:02:51 > 0:02:55I can tell you, Dani, that none of those people got married in
0:02:55 > 0:02:57Vegas, so this might be quite tricky for you.
0:02:57 > 0:02:58You surprise me.
0:02:58 > 0:03:02If I had to go for one I'd probably go with Princess Anne at this stage.
0:03:02 > 0:03:06OK, you think Princess Anne may be the youngest.
0:03:06 > 0:03:08Sunetra is stroking her chin in a knowing way.
0:03:08 > 0:03:11Over to our panel, the debate starts now.
0:03:11 > 0:03:13I think Dani might be onto something there
0:03:13 > 0:03:15because that was my gut instinct.
0:03:15 > 0:03:17I remember watching it on Blue Peter because on Blue Peter they'd
0:03:17 > 0:03:20made all these cheese scones that we were all encouraged to make
0:03:20 > 0:03:22and sit and watch the Royal Wedding.
0:03:22 > 0:03:25A different time, wasn't it? LAUGHTER
0:03:25 > 0:03:29Anyway... She looked young. I think it's Princess Anne.
0:03:29 > 0:03:32Do you think that Charles was old when he got married,
0:03:32 > 0:03:34or relatively old? Relatively old.
0:03:34 > 0:03:36None of them were old when they got married but, you know, older.
0:03:36 > 0:03:39Older than William at 29?
0:03:39 > 0:03:45My best friend has the same birthday as him, so he's 34. Oh, right.
0:03:45 > 0:03:492011 he got married. So he was 29.
0:03:49 > 0:03:52Zara Phillips got married just after, or just before,
0:03:52 > 0:03:56Prince William. She got away without too much coverage on the story.
0:03:56 > 0:04:01They're cousins, aren't they? They are. Zara's about 31.
0:04:01 > 0:04:05I think we should go with Princess Anne. Everybody in agreement? Yeah.
0:04:05 > 0:04:08OK, so the panel's decision, is Princess Anne.
0:04:09 > 0:04:13OK, our panel are going for Princess Anne. Is that any use?
0:04:13 > 0:04:17Um, yes, Carol was very helpful in that she could remember the event.
0:04:17 > 0:04:19So... That's...
0:04:19 > 0:04:20LAUGHTER
0:04:21 > 0:04:22So that's been a big help.
0:04:22 > 0:04:25I think I'm going to stick with my initial instinct and agree
0:04:25 > 0:04:27with the panel, it's Princess Anne.
0:04:27 > 0:04:29OK... For ?200...
0:04:29 > 0:04:34Was Princess Anne the youngest of these royals when she got married?
0:04:38 > 0:04:40It's the correct answer!
0:04:40 > 0:04:42Thank you, thanks very much. Well done. Well played.
0:04:42 > 0:04:46Princess Anne was 23 when she married Captain Mark Phillips.
0:04:46 > 0:04:48Prince William was 28.
0:04:48 > 0:04:50Zara Phillips was 30
0:04:50 > 0:04:53and Prince Charles, 32.
0:04:53 > 0:04:55Well done, we're up and running, ?200 in the prize pot.
0:04:55 > 0:04:57Excellent!
0:04:57 > 0:04:58APPLAUSE
0:04:58 > 0:05:01Here comes your next one, Dani.
0:05:24 > 0:05:27OK, I'm feeling much more confident on this as a subject. Really?
0:05:27 > 0:05:28It's one of my favourite films.
0:05:28 > 0:05:31I believe, unless my memory is playing a very cruel trick on
0:05:31 > 0:05:33me, it's chocolate syrup.
0:05:34 > 0:05:36You think it was chocolate syrup? I think so.
0:05:36 > 0:05:40It would be useful if we had an actor on the panel who knew
0:05:40 > 0:05:42the tricks of the trade.
0:05:42 > 0:05:44Don't look at me like that, Sunetra,
0:05:44 > 0:05:48let's see if we can sort this one out. The debate starts now. Well...
0:05:48 > 0:05:49What do you think?
0:05:49 > 0:05:51What I do know, the limited knowledge I know about fake
0:05:51 > 0:05:54blood, because obviously we use a lot in Casualty.
0:05:54 > 0:05:58It does have a consistency of syrup because it's water. Yeah.
0:05:58 > 0:06:01If we go back to when Psycho was made,
0:06:01 > 0:06:04it's a black and white film, isn't it? Yeah, because I...
0:06:04 > 0:06:07I'm sort of with Dani because you'd assume it'd be a red...
0:06:07 > 0:06:09Tomato ketchup. ..liquid.
0:06:09 > 0:06:10But it wouldn't matter if it's in black and white.
0:06:10 > 0:06:14I think it is chocolate syrup. Let's start eliminating them.
0:06:14 > 0:06:16Ketchup has gone, it's a black and white movie,
0:06:16 > 0:06:19it doesn't actually matter what colour the blood was.
0:06:19 > 0:06:21We can write off jam. Get rid of ketchup.
0:06:21 > 0:06:24BBQ sauce is a runny consistency, chocolate syrup is more gloopy.
0:06:24 > 0:06:27Would BBQ sauce have been around then? Were BBQs big?
0:06:27 > 0:06:30I would say chocolate syrup. Yeah, yeah, I'm chocolate syrup.
0:06:30 > 0:06:33We're unanimous. So the panel think, chocolate syrup.
0:06:35 > 0:06:37Any of that make sense? You did say, chocolate syrup.
0:06:37 > 0:06:39That was my inclination, yes.
0:06:39 > 0:06:42Yeah, and it's good to have the inside knowledge there with
0:06:42 > 0:06:44someone who works with fake blood every day, almost.
0:06:44 > 0:06:47So I'm going to stick with my first inclination and the panel's
0:06:47 > 0:06:49as well and go with chocolate syrup, please.
0:06:49 > 0:06:53We are all agreed. For ?200...
0:06:53 > 0:06:57Was chocolate syrup used as the fake blood in the shower scene in Psycho?
0:07:02 > 0:07:04It was!
0:07:04 > 0:07:05APPLAUSE
0:07:05 > 0:07:07Well done, everybody. Thanks very much.
0:07:07 > 0:07:09Well done, Dani.
0:07:09 > 0:07:13Janet Leigh, who played the doomed character, Marion Crane,
0:07:13 > 0:07:15in the famous shower scene.
0:07:15 > 0:07:18There she is, is quoted as saying, "I still don't take showers."
0:07:18 > 0:07:22And just to show you that it was actually chocolate syrup we've
0:07:22 > 0:07:25a picture of Janet there with absolutely no blood on her...
0:07:25 > 0:07:27LAUGHTER
0:07:27 > 0:07:29So well done.
0:07:29 > 0:07:32It means that we've got ?200 in the bank bringing your total at
0:07:32 > 0:07:33the end of Round One
0:07:33 > 0:07:36up to 400. Well played. Excellent, thank you.
0:07:37 > 0:07:39Smiles all round, 100% record.
0:07:39 > 0:07:42How do we think the panel's doing? They're doing very well.
0:07:42 > 0:07:44Yes, thank you very much for all your help.
0:07:44 > 0:07:47Who do you think is performing best so far? Oh, it's difficult to say.
0:07:47 > 0:07:50Um... At the moment I'm edging towards Carol.
0:07:50 > 0:07:53OK, well, let's see how they cope with pictures.
0:07:53 > 0:07:54It is time for Round Two.
0:07:57 > 0:08:00OK, Dani, Round Two is our picture round.
0:08:00 > 0:08:04All you have to do is place three pictures in the correct order.
0:08:04 > 0:08:08There are two questions in this round, each correct is worth ?300.
0:08:08 > 0:08:10OK. Here we go.
0:08:27 > 0:08:30I'm tempted just to keep them in that order.
0:08:30 > 0:08:33I don't know whether I'd swap Ryan Giggs and Kelly Holmes
0:08:33 > 0:08:37but I think Tony McCoy probably was the latest of those three.
0:08:37 > 0:08:39But I need some help with this one.
0:08:39 > 0:08:41You need some help, don't worry.
0:08:41 > 0:08:43The debate starts now.
0:08:43 > 0:08:46I think that Dani is right.
0:08:46 > 0:08:51I think A P McCoy is the most successful jockey ever. Yeah.
0:08:51 > 0:08:53But didn't win it for ages.
0:08:53 > 0:08:55Yeah. People were like he should have won it.
0:08:55 > 0:08:59Kelly Holmes got it the year of the Olympics. 2000, wasn't it? Yeah.
0:08:59 > 0:09:02She got three medals, two medals?
0:09:02 > 0:09:05She won the 800 and 1500, didn't she?
0:09:05 > 0:09:08She now runs a tea room, I think, as well. She now runs a what?
0:09:08 > 0:09:10A tea room. She wouldn't have won anything for that, though.
0:09:10 > 0:09:12Really? Yeah.
0:09:12 > 0:09:14Ryan Giggs is an older footballer.
0:09:14 > 0:09:17He was a footballer who did all his years at Man U, he never left.
0:09:17 > 0:09:19Yeah, and he played an extraordinary number of games.
0:09:19 > 0:09:21He played till he was like 39, it's amazing.
0:09:21 > 0:09:23With Giggsy, he probably won it earlier in his career,
0:09:23 > 0:09:27rather than later. I disagree, I think he came second a lot.
0:09:27 > 0:09:29You know how the Sports Personality has changed over the years. Mm-hm.
0:09:29 > 0:09:32It used to be five or six sports and now it's about every sport.
0:09:32 > 0:09:35Andy Murray's won it. Yeah, exactly.
0:09:35 > 0:09:38So I think back in the day when Ryan Giggs did win it,
0:09:38 > 0:09:41I think it was mainly footballers, cricketers, rugby...
0:09:41 > 0:09:43It definitely didn't include jockeys, as much.
0:09:43 > 0:09:46We're pretty sure that A P McCoy, last.
0:09:46 > 0:09:49Kelly in 2000, we're just trying to work out...
0:09:49 > 0:09:51Kelly's still quite young. Keep it as it is.
0:09:51 > 0:09:55Keep it as it is. OK, so we think the earliest winner of
0:09:55 > 0:09:58Sports Personality Of The Year was Ryan Giggs.
0:09:58 > 0:10:01Then Kelly Holmes and then A P McCoy.
0:10:03 > 0:10:06So lots of info in there, Dani, not all of it useful. Mm-hm.
0:10:06 > 0:10:09Kelly Holmes apparently has a cafe. Yeah...
0:10:13 > 0:10:15Yeah, I'm pleased that they agree
0:10:15 > 0:10:17that A P McCoy was probably the latest.
0:10:17 > 0:10:21I think it probably was about 2010/2011 for him.
0:10:21 > 0:10:25And Kelly Holmes, 2000 sounds pretty much right.
0:10:25 > 0:10:30The question is, did Ryan Giggs win it in the '90s or in the 2000s?
0:10:30 > 0:10:32I've got no idea. Um...
0:10:32 > 0:10:36I'm going to go with the panel and I'm going to leave it as it is.
0:10:36 > 0:10:38Ryan Giggs, Kelly Holmes, A P McCoy.
0:10:38 > 0:10:41You are saying Ryan Giggs won it first, then Kelly Holmes,
0:10:41 > 0:10:46then A P McCoy, as Rick Edwards bows his head to pray.
0:10:48 > 0:10:50For ?300, is this the correct order?
0:10:56 > 0:10:58PANEL: Oh, no!
0:10:58 > 0:10:59Wrong order.
0:10:59 > 0:11:02Let's reveal the correct order.
0:11:02 > 0:11:04I knew it.
0:11:06 > 0:11:07Kelly Holmes won it first,
0:11:07 > 0:11:09then it was Ryan Giggs
0:11:09 > 0:11:10and then it was A P McCoy.
0:11:10 > 0:11:12Let's have a look at the years.
0:11:12 > 0:11:132004 was Kelly Holmes,
0:11:13 > 0:11:162009 was Ryan Giggs.
0:11:16 > 0:11:19Wow! A P McCoy, 2010.
0:11:19 > 0:11:23A P McCoy was the very first jockey ever to win
0:11:23 > 0:11:25Sports Personality Of The Year.
0:11:25 > 0:11:27OK, unfortunately, nothing for that one,
0:11:27 > 0:11:30Dani, but you still have ?400 in the prize pot.
0:11:30 > 0:11:32Thank you.
0:11:32 > 0:11:34APPLAUSE
0:11:34 > 0:11:37OK, Dani, here's your second picture question.
0:11:58 > 0:12:01Titanic, was that 1901, or something?
0:12:01 > 0:12:03The first Model T car.
0:12:03 > 0:12:05I'm a big fan of Laurel and Hardy.
0:12:05 > 0:12:08They had cars in those films in the 1920s and the '10s.
0:12:08 > 0:12:10Harley-Davidsons, no idea, so I'll put them earliest.
0:12:10 > 0:12:14I'll say Harley-Davidson, Titanic, the first Ford Model T car.
0:12:14 > 0:12:16That's your first thought,
0:12:16 > 0:12:20the Harley-Davidson then the Titanic, then the Model T.
0:12:20 > 0:12:23Let's go to our model panel.
0:12:23 > 0:12:25Your debate starts now.
0:12:25 > 0:12:29Was the Titanic 1910s? 1911, 1912, something like that?
0:12:29 > 0:12:35It was the centenary of the Titanic recently. I think it was 1912-ish.
0:12:35 > 0:12:40Watching the movie, Titanic, I think you've seen these cars in it,
0:12:40 > 0:12:43which would indicate that the car was there before the boat.
0:12:43 > 0:12:46The Model T is before the Titanic, I think. Yeah.
0:12:46 > 0:12:48You think that, as well? Yeah. I think that's the order.
0:12:48 > 0:12:50But is this another... But the motorbike...
0:12:50 > 0:12:53We've been here before. I've got no idea.
0:12:53 > 0:12:56You definitely think there were cars driving up in the film, Titanic?
0:12:56 > 0:12:58I think so.
0:12:58 > 0:13:00I'm nervous about saying there were cars there.
0:13:00 > 0:13:03I just think that the first Model T was like 1905,
0:13:03 > 0:13:04or something like that.
0:13:04 > 0:13:08I've got a feeling that the Titanic was early 1910s. Right, OK.
0:13:08 > 0:13:10The motorbike, I do not know.
0:13:10 > 0:13:12Let's go with that order because we're guessing. We are.
0:13:12 > 0:13:14So let's go with it.
0:13:14 > 0:13:17OK, the panel's unanimous decision
0:13:17 > 0:13:21is the mode of transport in order of when they were built,
0:13:21 > 0:13:25the earliest first of all, is what you can see in front of you.
0:13:27 > 0:13:31Thanks, panel. Anything in there? Yes.
0:13:31 > 0:13:34Was there? There was something in there, yes.
0:13:34 > 0:13:36They reminded me that there has recently been
0:13:36 > 0:13:38a centenary of the Titanic so I think I was probably about
0:13:38 > 0:13:41ten years out when I said 1901, initially.
0:13:41 > 0:13:43I think it's possible that there were Harley-Davidsons
0:13:43 > 0:13:46knocking around in the 1890s.
0:13:46 > 0:13:48So, I'm going to say that the Harley-Davidson came first.
0:13:48 > 0:13:50I could be totally wrong!
0:13:50 > 0:13:52Then I'm going to go Ford Model T car.
0:13:52 > 0:13:54Then I'm going to go Titanic.
0:13:56 > 0:13:58OK...
0:13:58 > 0:14:03You've gleaned enough information to decide the Harley-Davidson
0:14:03 > 0:14:05was built first.
0:14:05 > 0:14:08Then the Ford Model T, then the Titanic.
0:14:10 > 0:14:11For ?300...
0:14:11 > 0:14:13Is that the right order?
0:14:18 > 0:14:20It is the right order! APPLAUSE
0:14:20 > 0:14:23Well done. I don't know how I managed that.
0:14:25 > 0:14:29Really, really good work. The first Harley-Davidson motorcycle was 1903.
0:14:29 > 0:14:33The first Ford Model T car, 1908.
0:14:33 > 0:14:35The Titanic was started in 1909,
0:14:35 > 0:14:40it was launched in 1911 and sank on its maiden voyage in 1912.
0:14:40 > 0:14:43Dani, well played. That was a great bit of game play.
0:14:43 > 0:14:46Thank you. ?300 to your prize pot.
0:14:46 > 0:14:48You are now up to ?700, well done.
0:14:52 > 0:14:57So, Dani, how is our panel doing for you? They have a 50% record.
0:14:57 > 0:15:00They have two out of four. Three out of four for your good self. Mm-hm.
0:15:00 > 0:15:04Who's standing out? Well, they've all been very helpful.
0:15:04 > 0:15:06They've all had little nuggets of information,
0:15:06 > 0:15:08or little ideas here and there.
0:15:08 > 0:15:10Or wrong answers that have directed you to the right answer.
0:15:13 > 0:15:15OK, look, you're going to have to choose one for your final
0:15:15 > 0:15:18debate but that is all after our final round where there is
0:15:18 > 0:15:20still another ?1,000 up for grabs.
0:15:20 > 0:15:22Let's play Round Three!
0:15:25 > 0:15:28In this round, you are going to face questions that contain three
0:15:28 > 0:15:30statements about a person, a place, or a thing.
0:15:30 > 0:15:33Only one of those statements is true.
0:15:33 > 0:15:35You need to find that for us to win the money.
0:15:35 > 0:15:39Two questions in this round. Because it's our final round, we're going to up the cash to ?500,
0:15:39 > 0:15:43so we can really get this up. Best of luck. Here we go.
0:16:02 > 0:16:04I don't think that B's correct,
0:16:04 > 0:16:06so it is a toss-up between A and C.
0:16:06 > 0:16:11My inclination at this stage is to say that C is correct but
0:16:11 > 0:16:12I'm really not sure of that.
0:16:12 > 0:16:16So you think they have four toes on their hind feet. Yeah.
0:16:16 > 0:16:18Don't worry. Don't worry. I'm very unsure.
0:16:18 > 0:16:22I'm sure our panel can sort this out.
0:16:22 > 0:16:24Panel, your debate starts now.
0:16:24 > 0:16:26The only elephant I've ever seen are the Asian ones.
0:16:26 > 0:16:29I'm pretty sure that they don't all have tusks.
0:16:29 > 0:16:32I think they're bigger than African elephants. Do you? Yeah.
0:16:32 > 0:16:35Oh, no. What I do think is about the four toes on their hind feet
0:16:35 > 0:16:38because I think there's something about equal balance, about
0:16:38 > 0:16:41the equilibrium of having two and two
0:16:41 > 0:16:44and I think I might have heard some old,
0:16:44 > 0:16:49Indian mythological fable which is to do with the equality
0:16:49 > 0:16:51of an elephant having four toes.
0:16:51 > 0:16:54We feel like we've seen elephants that don't have tusks.
0:16:54 > 0:16:57We feel like, yeah. We feel like we've seen tuskless elephants.
0:16:57 > 0:17:01I have always thought that African elephants were bigger
0:17:01 > 0:17:03than Asian elephants.
0:17:03 > 0:17:07I don't know why. OK, I think Asians are bigger but...
0:17:08 > 0:17:13I think elephants in Asia have four toes on their hind feet.
0:17:13 > 0:17:15That's my hunch.
0:17:15 > 0:17:18You're going for the four toes. What about yourself?
0:17:18 > 0:17:21Yeah, I think I would probably go with the four toes.
0:17:21 > 0:17:25I want to go for the larger than African elephants. Oh, do you?
0:17:25 > 0:17:29But, but, I shall bow to the superior knowledge of my
0:17:29 > 0:17:33fellow panellists and the panel's decision is that Asian
0:17:33 > 0:17:36elephants have four toes on their hind feet.
0:17:38 > 0:17:41Dani, does any of that make any sense?
0:17:41 > 0:17:43Um, Yes, it does, yeah.
0:17:43 > 0:17:46I liked Sunetra's theory about the four toes on the hind feet
0:17:46 > 0:17:48and if you think about it in a way on our hands,
0:17:48 > 0:17:50we have like the four fingers,
0:17:50 > 0:17:53so maybe there's some sort of link there, like the four toes,
0:17:53 > 0:17:55four fingers, I don't know.
0:17:55 > 0:17:59I'm going to say that C is the correct statement.
0:17:59 > 0:18:01OK.
0:18:01 > 0:18:03You're agreeing with the panel.
0:18:03 > 0:18:08We all believe that Asian elephants have four toes on their hind feet.
0:18:08 > 0:18:11If it's correct, it's ?500 into the prize pot.
0:18:11 > 0:18:12Here we go... Is it true?
0:18:17 > 0:18:19It is true!
0:18:20 > 0:18:22Well done. Well done, panel.
0:18:25 > 0:18:28They have four toes on their hind feet,
0:18:28 > 0:18:31while African elephants only have three.
0:18:31 > 0:18:34All African elephants have tusks but only some male
0:18:34 > 0:18:36Asian elephants have them.
0:18:36 > 0:18:38They are smaller than African elephants.
0:18:38 > 0:18:41That is ?500 added to your prize pot
0:18:41 > 0:18:43giving you a total of ?1,200.
0:18:43 > 0:18:44APPLAUSE
0:18:44 > 0:18:46Good, thank you.
0:18:48 > 0:18:51Here comes your final question of this round.
0:18:51 > 0:18:53Let's see if we can get you up another 500 to 1,700.
0:19:14 > 0:19:18My first inclination is A or B.
0:19:18 > 0:19:19I'm not sure.
0:19:19 > 0:19:23OK, so you're veering towards it's never left Europe or she wears
0:19:23 > 0:19:26a veil. It one of three! It is one of three.
0:19:26 > 0:19:29I really don't know.
0:19:29 > 0:19:30It is one of three. I know nothing.
0:19:30 > 0:19:33Let's see if one of this three can sort it out.
0:19:33 > 0:19:37It's a very cultured panel. I'm sure you can sort this out.
0:19:37 > 0:19:39Your debate starts now.
0:19:39 > 0:19:42It was stolen, wasn't it? Yes.
0:19:42 > 0:19:44So it may have left Europe. OK.
0:19:44 > 0:19:46We know that it was once stolen,
0:19:46 > 0:19:49which gives us an idea it could have travelled further than Europe.
0:19:49 > 0:19:51Yes. And does she wear a veil?
0:19:51 > 0:19:53She doesn't look like she wears a veil because she's sitting
0:19:53 > 0:19:55like this with her parting, isn't she?
0:19:55 > 0:19:57I don't remember a veil. It's not an obvious...
0:19:57 > 0:19:59It's also very small, isn't it?
0:19:59 > 0:20:03It's also one of those interesting facts that when you do walk
0:20:03 > 0:20:07around the Louvre, you go, can you believe that she was wearing a veil?
0:20:07 > 0:20:08You absolutely don't see it in the picture.
0:20:08 > 0:20:10If we don't see the veil, we have to assume
0:20:10 > 0:20:13that she wasn't wearing a veil. OK.
0:20:13 > 0:20:15Elbow the veil. Get rid of the veil.
0:20:15 > 0:20:17Was she around in the 15th century?
0:20:18 > 0:20:20But if it was painted in 1400 and something,
0:20:20 > 0:20:22that is the 15th century, isn't it?
0:20:22 > 0:20:25I think it was 1400 and something, wasn't it?
0:20:25 > 0:20:28Equally, it could have been 1500 and something. Oh!
0:20:30 > 0:20:34Dani, herself, thinks it's either A or B. Dani's a smart dude.
0:20:34 > 0:20:37We've eliminated B because we don't think it's B.
0:20:37 > 0:20:41Maybe we should go with A because...
0:20:41 > 0:20:43Yes...
0:20:43 > 0:20:46I think maybe it was painted in the 1500s or 16th century.
0:20:46 > 0:20:48We still have a conundrum. What do you think?
0:20:48 > 0:20:49Sunetra, what do you think?
0:20:49 > 0:20:51Now, through our analysis,
0:20:51 > 0:20:53I'm going to go for the painting has never left Europe.
0:20:53 > 0:20:55OK, Rick?
0:20:55 > 0:20:58Yeah, I think our analysis is relatively good.
0:20:58 > 0:21:01I'll go for the painting has never left Europe. OK.
0:21:01 > 0:21:04The panel's unanimous decision is that the Mona Lisa
0:21:04 > 0:21:06has never left Europe.
0:21:09 > 0:21:11The panel believe that it has never left Europe.
0:21:11 > 0:21:12Is that any use?
0:21:12 > 0:21:15It is, yeah. I think that Da Vinci painted it...
0:21:15 > 0:21:18I think it was the 1500s, which would have been the 16th century.
0:21:18 > 0:21:20So I agree with Rick on that.
0:21:20 > 0:21:22Um, the veil thing.
0:21:22 > 0:21:24Even though it's a painting you think that you're familiar with,
0:21:24 > 0:21:27sometimes there are little details,
0:21:27 > 0:21:29if it was a black veil, would you see it on the black hair?
0:21:29 > 0:21:32But I'm inclined to agree with the panel
0:21:32 > 0:21:34that the painting has never left Europe.
0:21:34 > 0:21:36I think I'm going to go with A.
0:21:39 > 0:21:43You believe that the painting has never left Europe.
0:21:43 > 0:21:48For ?500, has the Mona Lisa never left Europe?
0:21:57 > 0:21:59It's the wrong answer. No!
0:21:59 > 0:22:04The true statement is that the Mona Lisa wears a veil.
0:22:04 > 0:22:06The delicate, dark veil that covers the Mona Lisa's hair
0:22:06 > 0:22:09is sometimes considered a mourning veil.
0:22:09 > 0:22:11There it is.
0:22:11 > 0:22:15In fact, such veils were commonly worn as a mark of virtue.
0:22:15 > 0:22:17It was painted in the 16th century.
0:22:17 > 0:22:20Although the Mona Lisa is usually on display in the Louvre,
0:22:20 > 0:22:24in 1974 it travelled to Tokyo to the National Museum there
0:22:24 > 0:22:28and the Pushkin Museum Of Fine Arts.
0:22:28 > 0:22:32The Mona Lisa was stolen in 1911 by a former employee who
0:22:32 > 0:22:36believed that it wrongly belonged to Italy.
0:22:36 > 0:22:39But Da Vinci had been commissioned by Louis XIV to paint the
0:22:39 > 0:22:42picture, so it was actually French property.
0:22:42 > 0:22:44Unfortunately, no luck with that one, Dani.
0:22:44 > 0:22:46It means that you're going to be playing for ?1,200
0:22:46 > 0:22:48in our final debate.
0:22:48 > 0:22:50APPLAUSE
0:22:52 > 0:22:54So, quite a tidy sum.
0:22:54 > 0:22:56Not bad. Any plans for that?
0:22:56 > 0:22:58Oh, that would be a nice little weekend away,
0:22:58 > 0:23:03maybe in Barcelona or someone nice with Eleanor and the husband. Nice.
0:23:03 > 0:23:07OK, there's just one question that stands between you and the money,
0:23:07 > 0:23:09and that is today's Final Debate.
0:23:09 > 0:23:11You will face one question, Dani.
0:23:11 > 0:23:15There are six possible answers, but only three are correct.
0:23:15 > 0:23:20In order to win the cash, we need all three correct answers.
0:23:20 > 0:23:22As always, you're not playing alone.
0:23:22 > 0:23:25It is your Final Debate, so you're going to choose one of these
0:23:25 > 0:23:28fantastic brainboxes to play along with.
0:23:28 > 0:23:30You and your celebrity will have 45 seconds to answer,
0:23:30 > 0:23:33so who would you like to join you for the Final Debate?
0:23:33 > 0:23:35Ooh, it's a difficult decision,
0:23:35 > 0:23:38because they've all been very helpful in different ways.
0:23:42 > 0:23:44I think...
0:23:44 > 0:23:46I'm going to ask Carol to help me.
0:23:47 > 0:23:50Carol, could you please join us for the Final Debate.
0:23:50 > 0:23:52APPLAUSE
0:23:56 > 0:24:00So, Carol, Dani has put her faith in you, and rightly so.
0:24:00 > 0:24:02Dani, I just hope that we can do this.
0:24:02 > 0:24:04I so want you to get that money.
0:24:04 > 0:24:05OK, it is our Final Debate,
0:24:05 > 0:24:08that means we're going to give you a choice of two subjects.
0:24:08 > 0:24:09Here they come.
0:24:14 > 0:24:18Well, there is no decision as far as I'm concerned, it has to be music.
0:24:18 > 0:24:20Yeah, yeah. Music's good.
0:24:20 > 0:24:22Yeah, we're settled on music, please, Paddy.
0:24:22 > 0:24:23We're settling on music,
0:24:23 > 0:24:26and we're hoping that it's specifically 1990s music.
0:24:26 > 0:24:28If it's about Morrissey, we're good.
0:24:28 > 0:24:30Yeah, what sort of music do you like?
0:24:30 > 0:24:33I like '80s, '90s, I kind of stop there as well.
0:24:33 > 0:24:36But classical, I am lost. Right.
0:24:36 > 0:24:39So if it's glam rock or opera, then we're trouble.
0:24:39 > 0:24:41But '80s or '90s, we might be OK. So fingers crossed.
0:24:41 > 0:24:44OK, glam rock or opera, you're in trouble... Yep!
0:24:44 > 0:24:47Fingers crossed, we're going for music.
0:24:49 > 0:24:51So, Dani, for ?1,200, best of luck,
0:24:51 > 0:24:54here it comes, your Final Debate question.
0:25:22 > 0:25:27Dani and Carol, for the final time, your 45-seconds debate starts now.
0:25:27 > 0:25:30Any stand out? Marriage of Figaro think is Mozart. Yeah.
0:25:30 > 0:25:35Don Giovanni? Possibly. That sounds like, to me. Aida does as well.
0:25:35 > 0:25:39But I am no buff on this, these are just ones I know. I don't think...
0:25:39 > 0:25:42Aida's the Egyptian one. I don't think that was Mozart.
0:25:42 > 0:25:45What about the Barber Of Seville? Hmm... I don't think so.
0:25:45 > 0:25:49My inclination is no. What nationality was Mozart?
0:25:49 > 0:25:52He was born in Austria, Salzburg. OK, so Seville, Spain.
0:25:52 > 0:25:55Doesn't mean anything, but just throwing it out there.
0:25:55 > 0:25:57The Clemency Of Titus... Never heard of it. Neither have I!
0:25:57 > 0:25:59It's probably the answer! Yes.
0:25:59 > 0:26:02So, Marriage Of Figaro we think yes, Don Giovanni, we think...
0:26:02 > 0:26:06Maybe. Maybe. And it's just the last one. Fidelio.
0:26:06 > 0:26:10Fidelio? Yep, that sounds... It could be. Could be.
0:26:10 > 0:26:13Aida's gone, so it's Fidelio or the Clemency Of Titus.
0:26:13 > 0:26:15BUZZER Time up, guys.
0:26:15 > 0:26:17Dani, I need three operas, please.
0:26:17 > 0:26:19OK. Marriage of Figaro.
0:26:22 > 0:26:23Don Giovanni.
0:26:27 > 0:26:28And...
0:26:30 > 0:26:31Fidelio.
0:26:33 > 0:26:34Fidelio.
0:26:34 > 0:26:36OK, they are locked in.
0:26:36 > 0:26:40If those are the three operas by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart,
0:26:40 > 0:26:42you leave with ?1,200 today.
0:26:42 > 0:26:45If one of those is incorrect, I'm afraid you do leave with nothing.
0:26:45 > 0:26:47Best of luck.
0:26:47 > 0:26:52First up, The Marriage Of Figaro, is that an opera by Mozart?
0:26:58 > 0:27:00It is. APPLAUSE
0:27:03 > 0:27:04We're up and running.
0:27:05 > 0:27:09You then said Don Giovanni.
0:27:09 > 0:27:13Is Don Giovanni an opera by Mozart?
0:27:13 > 0:27:15To keep us on track for the 1,200.
0:27:20 > 0:27:22It's a correct answer. APPLAUSE
0:27:23 > 0:27:27So, you guys then toyed with the Barber of Seville and Aida,
0:27:27 > 0:27:28you ruled both of those out,
0:27:28 > 0:27:33and it left us with the Clemency Of Titus and Fidelio.
0:27:33 > 0:27:36You went with Fidelio.
0:27:36 > 0:27:39Is Fidelio an opera by Mozart?
0:27:49 > 0:27:51AUDIENCE GROANS
0:27:51 > 0:27:54It's the wrong answer, Dani, I'm so sorry.
0:27:54 > 0:27:56It was actually by Beethoven. Oh, dear.
0:27:56 > 0:27:58Let's have a little look at the correct answer,
0:27:58 > 0:28:01it WAS The Clemency Of Titus!
0:28:01 > 0:28:03It was so close.
0:28:03 > 0:28:05It was so, so close.
0:28:05 > 0:28:07I'm sorry, you don't leave with any money today,
0:28:07 > 0:28:10but you've played the game so, so well. Thanks for coming in.
0:28:10 > 0:28:12Thank you. One more time, let's hear it for Dani. Thanks very much.
0:28:12 > 0:28:15APPLAUSE Well done, you were brilliant.
0:28:15 > 0:28:18So close. That is it for Debatable.
0:28:18 > 0:28:22There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel,
0:28:22 > 0:28:23Carol Kirkwood,
0:28:23 > 0:28:24Sunetra Sarker
0:28:24 > 0:28:26and Rick Edwards.
0:28:26 > 0:28:28APPLAUSE
0:28:28 > 0:28:29I hope you've enjoyed watching,
0:28:29 > 0:28:31we will see you next time for more heated debates.
0:28:31 > 0:28:33For now, it's goodbye from me.
0:28:33 > 0:28:35APPLAUSE