0:00:09 > 0:00:11APPLAUSE
0:00:11 > 0:00:15Hello and welcome to Debatable,
0:00:15 > 0:00:17the quiz show where talk is cheap
0:00:17 > 0:00:20but celebrity chat can win a contestant money.
0:00:20 > 0:00:24Today, one player must answer a series of tricky questions
0:00:24 > 0:00:27to try to bag our jackpot of £2,000.
0:00:27 > 0:00:29But they're not on their own.
0:00:29 > 0:00:32They'll also have a panel of celebrity brain boxes
0:00:32 > 0:00:34debating their way to the answer.
0:00:34 > 0:00:36Will they help or will they hinder?
0:00:36 > 0:00:39Well, that's debatable. And now it's time to meet them.
0:00:39 > 0:00:41On today's show, we have
0:00:41 > 0:00:43journalist Rachel Johnson,
0:00:43 > 0:00:46we have reporter Michael Buerk
0:00:46 > 0:00:48and broadcaster and campaigner
0:00:48 > 0:00:50June Sarpong.
0:00:50 > 0:00:52APPLAUSE
0:00:54 > 0:00:57It is a lovely panel. It is perfectly balanced.
0:00:57 > 0:01:00I am feeling the intelligence, Michael, from here.
0:01:00 > 0:01:02Are you also feeling the charisma?
0:01:02 > 0:01:03I am feeling the charisma.
0:01:03 > 0:01:05It's coming from either side of you.
0:01:05 > 0:01:07- LAUGHTER - Exactly. Exactly.
0:01:07 > 0:01:12So, that's the panel. Let's meet today's contestant.
0:01:15 > 0:01:17It is Anj Avraam from the Cotswolds. How are you doing, sir?
0:01:17 > 0:01:19- Very well, thank you. - Good, good, good.
0:01:19 > 0:01:21So, what do you get up to in the Cotswolds?
0:01:21 > 0:01:23Well, mainly I'm a writer so I work all the time
0:01:23 > 0:01:25and it's a great place to do that.
0:01:25 > 0:01:27- And is it true that you rap a little bit? Is that true?- Well, I used to.
0:01:27 > 0:01:31Music was my passion but I did it... We were in a little hip-hop band.
0:01:31 > 0:01:33Can you give us a little burst now?
0:01:33 > 0:01:35Let's make it relevant. OK.
0:01:35 > 0:01:37- RAPS:- # It's time to have a debate I'm racking my brains
0:01:37 > 0:01:39# But with a panel this great
0:01:39 > 0:01:41# I'm out to win the cash and leave Paddy amazed. #
0:01:41 > 0:01:45- APPLAUSE JUNE:- Whoo!
0:01:47 > 0:01:51We honestly can't follow that, so let's get on with the game.
0:01:51 > 0:01:53Here we go. Let's play Round One.
0:01:55 > 0:01:57This round is multiple choice
0:01:57 > 0:02:02and each question has four possible answers but only one is correct.
0:02:02 > 0:02:05Helping you find the correct answer is our panel.
0:02:05 > 0:02:08Now, will you go with what they say or will you go your own way?
0:02:08 > 0:02:10It is entirely up to you.
0:02:10 > 0:02:12There's two questions in this round
0:02:12 > 0:02:15and each correct answer will bank you £200,
0:02:15 > 0:02:17which you will be playing for in our Final Debate
0:02:17 > 0:02:19at the end of the show. OK?
0:02:19 > 0:02:21- Yeah.- All righty. Here's your first question.
0:02:43 > 0:02:46And we will pause as our panel now realises
0:02:46 > 0:02:48they are potentially out of their depth.
0:02:48 > 0:02:51THEY LAUGH
0:02:51 > 0:02:54- Well, thank you for the "potential". - The vote of confidence.
0:02:54 > 0:02:56Anj, what's your first thought?
0:02:56 > 0:02:57Erm.
0:02:57 > 0:03:00Well, Edward VIII, that's going back quite a while.
0:03:00 > 0:03:04- Well, we have the panel so we don't need an answer yet.- Yeah.
0:03:04 > 0:03:05Let's see what the panel make of this.
0:03:05 > 0:03:08OK, panel, your debate starts now.
0:03:08 > 0:03:10Right. Now, come on.
0:03:10 > 0:03:13Well, I know the Wall Street Crash was 1929.
0:03:13 > 0:03:15That's right. That's definitely right.
0:03:15 > 0:03:17Was Edward VIII 1926?
0:03:17 > 0:03:20- No, 1936.- No, Edward VIII abdicated in 1936.- OK.
0:03:20 > 0:03:22I think '36.
0:03:22 > 0:03:24I know it was '36.
0:03:24 > 0:03:27- OK.- Oh, you said that so steely. - So steely.
0:03:27 > 0:03:30- But what about The Great Gatsby though?- That's the one...
0:03:30 > 0:03:32- That's '20s.- Read the book, seen the film.- Yeah.
0:03:32 > 0:03:34I'm getting a Roaring Twenties, flappery feeling, aren't you?
0:03:34 > 0:03:37- Roaring Twenties, yeah. - Yeah, yeah.- It's '20s or '30s.
0:03:37 > 0:03:40- Academy Awards?- But don't you think The Great Gatsby is all about
0:03:40 > 0:03:43- that kind of wealth and the bubble and everything?- I know.- Yes.
0:03:43 > 0:03:46It must have been before The Great Crash,
0:03:46 > 0:03:49- don't you think?- Before. - Yeah, definitely.
0:03:49 > 0:03:51- But Academy Awards.- Academy Awards.
0:03:51 > 0:03:53- What year did Gone With The Wind win?- I don't know.
0:03:53 > 0:03:55Because wasn't that the year that...?
0:03:55 > 0:03:57I think that was the first-ever Academy Awards.
0:03:57 > 0:03:59- And they had... - How do you know that then?
0:03:59 > 0:04:01- That was in the '40s, wasn't it, Gone With The Wind?- Was it?
0:04:01 > 0:04:04- My vote would be for Gatsby. - Yeah. I'm going for Gatsby.
0:04:04 > 0:04:07If you're going for Gatsby, I could go for Academy Awards, couldn't I?
0:04:07 > 0:04:09- But then I have to make a decision. - Well, that's your job.
0:04:09 > 0:04:14My decision is The Great Gatsby was first.
0:04:14 > 0:04:15- ANJ:- OK.
0:04:15 > 0:04:18Yeah, I'm going to go away from my original thoughts,
0:04:18 > 0:04:21which were that Edward VIII preceded all this.
0:04:21 > 0:04:23So, Rachel has convinced you of that?
0:04:23 > 0:04:25It's that knowing gaze. Look at it.
0:04:25 > 0:04:27- It's that steeliness that she has. - Oh, yeah.
0:04:27 > 0:04:30- See, Rachel has got something there. - She does.
0:04:30 > 0:04:32She's definitely got something there.
0:04:32 > 0:04:34- LAUGHTER - I think...
0:04:34 > 0:04:36OK, I will agree with the panel.
0:04:37 > 0:04:42Is The Great Gatsby, for £200, the correct answer?
0:04:44 > 0:04:47CHEERING AND APPLAUSE It is the correct answer. Well done.
0:04:47 > 0:04:49- Yeah!- Well done, us. - We're up and running.
0:04:49 > 0:04:53- We've tested them out.- We are infallible.- We are up and running.
0:04:53 > 0:04:56The Great Gatsby was published in 1925.
0:04:56 > 0:04:58Wall Street Crash was '29.
0:04:58 > 0:05:01The first Academy Awards was held in 1929.
0:05:01 > 0:05:03Edward VIII abdicated in 1936.
0:05:03 > 0:05:05- Shameless.- Spot-on.
0:05:05 > 0:05:07So, you were right to go with the panel.
0:05:07 > 0:05:09We have £200 in the pot.
0:05:09 > 0:05:12APPLAUSE
0:05:12 > 0:05:15OK, let's crack on. Here's your next question.
0:05:35 > 0:05:38- Now you are...- I'm just trying to picture it in my mind.
0:05:38 > 0:05:40It's a very famous cover, obviously.
0:05:41 > 0:05:45However, I wasn't really focused on their beards
0:05:45 > 0:05:47when I last looked at it.
0:05:47 > 0:05:49So, maybe Paul.
0:05:49 > 0:05:52OK, so you're maybe thinking Paul.
0:05:52 > 0:05:56I know that one of our panel has lived through this era.
0:06:00 > 0:06:02I didn't say who.
0:06:02 > 0:06:04I'd peaked long before The Beatles.
0:06:04 > 0:06:08So, let's see what our panel think.
0:06:08 > 0:06:10Your debate starts now.
0:06:10 > 0:06:13This is the one with them trooping across the road?
0:06:13 > 0:06:16- Yeah.- Yeah.- The zebra crossing in Abbey Road.- Yes.
0:06:16 > 0:06:17Now, Paul is the clean-cut one, isn't he?
0:06:17 > 0:06:20I know, but I'm worried that this is a trick question.
0:06:20 > 0:06:23- I think he had a beard on that. - I think it was George.
0:06:23 > 0:06:24Do you know, I think you're right.
0:06:24 > 0:06:27- I don't think George has ever had a beard.- I mean Ringo...
0:06:27 > 0:06:29- Yes, he has had a beard. - George Harrison?
0:06:29 > 0:06:31- Course he has.- No, but it was in the '70s when he was...
0:06:31 > 0:06:33- Oh, when he got into his... - Yeah, hippy stuff.- Yeah.
0:06:33 > 0:06:35Well, that's true. That's true.
0:06:35 > 0:06:36Not before then.
0:06:36 > 0:06:38Can't you show us the cover, Patrick?
0:06:38 > 0:06:40LAUGHTER We will do.
0:06:40 > 0:06:43- Do you have a picture of them, Patrick?- Oh, good. I can't wait.
0:06:43 > 0:06:46But do you think it's a choice then, June, between Paul and George?
0:06:46 > 0:06:48- Yes.- Let's try and narrow it down.
0:06:48 > 0:06:50Yeah. I think definitely between Paul and George.
0:06:50 > 0:06:52- John, I just see him with a beard, don't you?- Oh, yeah.
0:06:52 > 0:06:54- He would have had one. - Ringo, very small beard.
0:06:54 > 0:06:56- I think he was in his round specs and beard.- Yeah.- Yeah.
0:06:56 > 0:07:00And Paul might have wanted to stand out, I think. You know?
0:07:00 > 0:07:01Differentiate himself from John?
0:07:01 > 0:07:03Do you think Paul is just too obvious
0:07:03 > 0:07:05- and we should go for George? - Yeah, yeah.
0:07:05 > 0:07:06What do you think, June? Come on.
0:07:06 > 0:07:08- George.- George. What do you think, Rachel?
0:07:08 > 0:07:10I think George, too.
0:07:11 > 0:07:14We think George.
0:07:14 > 0:07:16OK. So, what do we think?
0:07:16 > 0:07:19Most years I've seen any of these people,
0:07:19 > 0:07:23it's mainly been Paul and Ringo that haven't had a beard
0:07:23 > 0:07:26but it was...that's much more recently than Abbey Road.
0:07:26 > 0:07:31And I'm not really going to improve on the panel's thinking
0:07:31 > 0:07:35so it's an act of faith, I think.
0:07:35 > 0:07:39I'm going to agree with the panel and see what fruit that bears.
0:07:39 > 0:07:41I love the look of surprise on the panel
0:07:41 > 0:07:44as you have said that you can't improve on their thinking.
0:07:44 > 0:07:45LAUGHTER
0:07:45 > 0:07:48- You're going for George.- Yes. Yeah.
0:07:48 > 0:07:50OK, second time you've agreed with the panel.
0:07:50 > 0:07:53For £200, and to get the prize pot up to 400,
0:07:53 > 0:07:55what's the correct answer?
0:07:59 > 0:08:00- Ooh. RACHEL:- No!
0:08:00 > 0:08:04- First one!- I did say Paul might want to stand out.
0:08:04 > 0:08:05I did say that.
0:08:05 > 0:08:07- You should have went with your initial reaction.- I know.
0:08:07 > 0:08:10- Sorry, Anj.- Well, at least we were all in it together.- JUNE:- Yeah.
0:08:10 > 0:08:12- The mire, you mean? - LAUGHTER
0:08:12 > 0:08:16The Abbey Road cover featured on a stamp in 2006.
0:08:16 > 0:08:18- There it is.- Such a great cover.
0:08:18 > 0:08:20Abbey Road was released in 1969.
0:08:20 > 0:08:23It was the 13th album that the band released in the UK.
0:08:23 > 0:08:26So, unfortunately, you didn't manage to bank anything in that question
0:08:26 > 0:08:28and it means that the total amount
0:08:28 > 0:08:30banked at the end of Round One is £200.
0:08:30 > 0:08:32APPLAUSE
0:08:35 > 0:08:37So, the panel have helped you on one question,
0:08:37 > 0:08:38they haven't on the other.
0:08:38 > 0:08:40How do we think they're performing?
0:08:40 > 0:08:42I'm starting to think June is quite trustworthy.
0:08:42 > 0:08:43Yeah.
0:08:43 > 0:08:45You are right.
0:08:45 > 0:08:48OK, well, look. Let's see how they cope with pictures.
0:08:48 > 0:08:49It is time for Round Two.
0:08:52 > 0:08:54Round Two is a picture round.
0:08:54 > 0:08:58All you have to do, Anj, is place three pictures in the correct order.
0:08:58 > 0:09:00There are two questions in this round.
0:09:00 > 0:09:03Each correct answer is now worth £300.
0:09:03 > 0:09:05So, here we go.
0:09:23 > 0:09:25OK. I know...
0:09:25 > 0:09:27I think I know which bird
0:09:27 > 0:09:28has the longest wingspan.
0:09:28 > 0:09:30I think it's the albatross
0:09:30 > 0:09:31but I'm not sure
0:09:31 > 0:09:32about the other two,
0:09:32 > 0:09:33what order they go in.
0:09:33 > 0:09:35OK. This is what our panel is here for.
0:09:35 > 0:09:36Let's see if they can help you
0:09:36 > 0:09:38and put it in order.
0:09:38 > 0:09:39Your debate starts now.
0:09:39 > 0:09:41I've seen every one of these.
0:09:41 > 0:09:43- Oh, have you?- I've seen two of them.
0:09:43 > 0:09:46I once went to Peru to look at condors
0:09:46 > 0:09:48- and they are very, very large. - They are.
0:09:48 > 0:09:51- So, I think this has got to be the biggest.- I think...
0:09:51 > 0:09:52The longest wingspan.
0:09:52 > 0:09:54I think the albatross has got absolutely enormous...
0:09:54 > 0:09:56- If you see them...- They are monsters.- ..following a ship.
0:09:56 > 0:09:58- Yeah.- You know, and they never...
0:09:58 > 0:10:01- Oh, no, you're talking about the albatross?- Albatross, yeah.
0:10:01 > 0:10:03- You think bigger than the condor? - I think wider.
0:10:03 > 0:10:04That's the main thing, the wingspan.
0:10:04 > 0:10:06Well, Anj thought the albatross was wider.
0:10:06 > 0:10:08Yeah. I think the eagle is the shortest.
0:10:08 > 0:10:11- Yeah, definitely. That is the shortest.- You're the shortest.
0:10:11 > 0:10:13- I am the shortest.- No disrespect. - That is accurate.
0:10:13 > 0:10:16- OK. So, now it's a toss-up between these two.- Between...
0:10:16 > 0:10:18What do you think?
0:10:18 > 0:10:20You said the albatross is huge, didn't you?
0:10:20 > 0:10:22I don't want to be the one who gets it wrong again.
0:10:22 > 0:10:24That's your role, Rachel. That's your role.
0:10:24 > 0:10:26LAUGHTER
0:10:26 > 0:10:28Why do you think they asked you on the show?
0:10:28 > 0:10:30I think you're probably right.
0:10:30 > 0:10:32If the albatross is doing long distances
0:10:32 > 0:10:34and the condor is just flying around Peru.
0:10:34 > 0:10:37- They float on thermals, don't they, the...- Albatross.- ..condors?
0:10:37 > 0:10:40- But the albatrosses...- Has to go... - Yeah.- OK, all right.- So it needs...
0:10:40 > 0:10:42- Let's go with you.- You reckon? - Yeah.- Yeah.
0:10:42 > 0:10:43- So, we're agreed?- Yes.
0:10:43 > 0:10:47We think it's in this order.
0:10:47 > 0:10:50Golden eagle with the shortest wingspan,
0:10:50 > 0:10:52condor in the middle
0:10:52 > 0:10:54but the one with the longest wingspan,
0:10:54 > 0:10:56we think, is the albatross.
0:10:56 > 0:11:01So, Anj, our panel has brought way more knowledge to this
0:11:01 > 0:11:02than I ever thought they would.
0:11:02 > 0:11:05And Michael has convinced the other two on the panel
0:11:05 > 0:11:07that the albatross is the longest wingspan
0:11:07 > 0:11:09just by sticking his arms out.
0:11:09 > 0:11:11- LAUGHTER - Did you actually do that?- He did.
0:11:11 > 0:11:14- No. Yeah.- Every time he said albatross...- Yeah.
0:11:14 > 0:11:16Do it again, Michael. Go on.
0:11:16 > 0:11:19- Has Michael's impression convinced you?- Yeah.
0:11:19 > 0:11:20The albatross is quite famous
0:11:20 > 0:11:22for being, I think,
0:11:22 > 0:11:23for having the largest wingspan
0:11:23 > 0:11:24in the avian kingdom.
0:11:24 > 0:11:26So I think it has to be that order.
0:11:26 > 0:11:27Avian kingdom, wow.
0:11:27 > 0:11:29So you're agreeing with our panel?
0:11:29 > 0:11:31I've been burned once but
0:11:31 > 0:11:32I think I'm safe to say
0:11:32 > 0:11:34- they are right on this one.- OK.
0:11:34 > 0:11:36So, Anj, you are agreeing with the panel.
0:11:36 > 0:11:38You say the golden eagle has the shortest
0:11:38 > 0:11:40then the condor, then the albatross.
0:11:40 > 0:11:43For £300, is that the correct order?
0:11:49 > 0:11:52APPLAUSE It is the correct answer.
0:11:52 > 0:11:55- Well done.- Well done.- You too. - Hang on, hang on.
0:11:55 > 0:11:58- We've been doing... Hey!- Yeah!
0:11:58 > 0:11:59Woohoo!
0:11:59 > 0:12:00Well worked out.
0:12:00 > 0:12:03The wandering albatross's wingspan is the longest
0:12:03 > 0:12:06- of any living bird and there it is. - There it is.
0:12:06 > 0:12:08And from that picture, we can actually see
0:12:08 > 0:12:11that the albatross has exactly the same wingspan
0:12:11 > 0:12:13as Michael Buerk's arms.
0:12:13 > 0:12:16LAUGHTER
0:12:16 > 0:12:18So, that's £300 added to your prize pot
0:12:18 > 0:12:20giving you a total of £500.
0:12:20 > 0:12:22APPLAUSE
0:12:22 > 0:12:25- It's going very nicely.- Very good. Very nice. Yeah.- Very nicely.
0:12:25 > 0:12:30All right, let's take a look at question two for another 300.
0:12:45 > 0:12:47Now, that's a good question.
0:12:47 > 0:12:48It is a good question.
0:12:48 > 0:12:51And the look on your face shows that it is.
0:12:51 > 0:12:54They seem to be roughly similar lengths.
0:12:54 > 0:12:59However, I think that probably the longest, at this point,
0:12:59 > 0:13:00is the Channel Tunnel.
0:13:00 > 0:13:02OK. Don't worry.
0:13:02 > 0:13:05Our panel will no doubt shed some light on this.
0:13:05 > 0:13:08Your debate start now.
0:13:08 > 0:13:10Right. Well, I think, first of all,
0:13:10 > 0:13:14- surely the shortest has got to be the Channel Tunnel.- Surely.
0:13:14 > 0:13:16- Because the Channel is only...- 21.
0:13:16 > 0:13:18..21 miles, isn't it, Dover to Calais?
0:13:18 > 0:13:20So, say another couple of miles for the tunnel.
0:13:20 > 0:13:24- It can't be much more than 23, 24. - Than 22. Yeah, maximum.
0:13:24 > 0:13:26Now, the Thames rises...
0:13:26 > 0:13:29- Doesn't it rise somewhere near Cricklade in the Cotswolds?- Mm.
0:13:29 > 0:13:32So, it's got to be at least 60 or 70 miles,
0:13:32 > 0:13:34- hasn't it, the length of the Thames? - At least.
0:13:34 > 0:13:37So, it's at least three times the Channel Tunnel.
0:13:37 > 0:13:39The M25 feels like 1,000 miles long when you're on it.
0:13:39 > 0:13:42- That's cos you're always sat in traffic.- Yeah.- Yeah.
0:13:42 > 0:13:45- So, Channel Tunnel is shortest for sure.- Yes.- Yes.
0:13:45 > 0:13:48I think the longest is the M25.
0:13:48 > 0:13:49OK. You think the M25. What do you think?
0:13:49 > 0:13:51- Well, I think River Thames.- OK.
0:13:51 > 0:13:55- I think M25.- Is the longest, is that what you think?- Hmm.- OK.
0:13:55 > 0:13:57- So, it's two to one. - Well, I'm outnumbered.
0:13:57 > 0:14:00- So, I think we're there. - Yes, we're in order. Yeah.
0:14:00 > 0:14:05And I think the panel puts them in this order.
0:14:06 > 0:14:09All righty. That is the order of the panel. What do we think?
0:14:09 > 0:14:10I think they've got
0:14:10 > 0:14:12- the Channel Tunnel right.- Yes.
0:14:12 > 0:14:15Cos we can cap that at 21 miles, can't we?
0:14:15 > 0:14:18The River Thames, if Michael is correct in saying
0:14:18 > 0:14:20that it rises in the Cotswolds,
0:14:20 > 0:14:22that's going to give it at least 150 miles
0:14:22 > 0:14:24before it goes though London.
0:14:24 > 0:14:27So, I definitely think I'd move the River Thames to be...
0:14:27 > 0:14:29Yeah, to the top, to be the longest.
0:14:29 > 0:14:31So, you're going against the panel.
0:14:31 > 0:14:33- June is nodding her head.- Not fully.
0:14:33 > 0:14:35You're going to agree with June.
0:14:35 > 0:14:37You are going for the Channel Tunnel,
0:14:37 > 0:14:39then the M25,
0:14:39 > 0:14:40- then the River Thames.- Yes.
0:14:43 > 0:14:48For £300, is the Channel Tunnel, M25 and River Thames the correct answer?
0:14:52 > 0:14:54- Oh, get in! - It is the correct answer.
0:14:54 > 0:14:56- Well done.- Yay. Thank you.
0:14:59 > 0:15:01You were right to go against the panel.
0:15:01 > 0:15:03Nobody likes a know-it-all, June.
0:15:03 > 0:15:05- LAUGHTER - Sorry. I do. I do.
0:15:05 > 0:15:08- Looking slightly too smug there on the end.- Yes, yes, yes.
0:15:08 > 0:15:11So, the Channel Tunnel, the shortest, 31 miles.
0:15:11 > 0:15:15The M25, 170 miles.
0:15:15 > 0:15:18The River Thames over 200 miles.
0:15:18 > 0:15:19Oh.
0:15:19 > 0:15:21So, at the end of Round Two,
0:15:21 > 0:15:24your prize pot stands at £800.
0:15:24 > 0:15:26APPLAUSE
0:15:26 > 0:15:28- Well done.- Yeah, thank you.
0:15:29 > 0:15:31- Doing very, very well.- Yeah.
0:15:31 > 0:15:34How do we think our panel are doing so far, Anj?
0:15:34 > 0:15:36No, I think they're all doing pretty well, you know.
0:15:36 > 0:15:39It's just, I would have expected Michael's geography
0:15:39 > 0:15:42to be slightly better with all that world travelling,
0:15:42 > 0:15:43reporting from everywhere in the world.
0:15:43 > 0:15:46- A man who has travelled around the world.- He really has.
0:15:46 > 0:15:49- You thought he may have known the length of...- The Thames.
0:15:49 > 0:15:52- ..a major river in the country. - Are you ganging up on me?
0:15:52 > 0:15:55- No. Not at all.- No, no, no. - It's bad enough with these two.
0:15:55 > 0:15:58- Remember you have to pick one for your final debate.- OK.
0:15:58 > 0:16:01- But we don't need that answer just yet.- OK.
0:16:01 > 0:16:03OK, it's time for Round Three.
0:16:05 > 0:16:09So, Anj, in this round you will face questions that contain
0:16:09 > 0:16:12three statements relating to a person, a place or a thing
0:16:12 > 0:16:15but only one of those statements is true.
0:16:15 > 0:16:17You must decide which one.
0:16:17 > 0:16:18Two questions in the round
0:16:18 > 0:16:22and we're going to up the cash to £500 a question.
0:16:22 > 0:16:24So, best of luck. Here's your first question.
0:16:43 > 0:16:45How's your politics?
0:16:45 > 0:16:46This was one of the subjects that
0:16:46 > 0:16:48I wasn't going to be too strong on -
0:16:48 > 0:16:49politics.
0:16:49 > 0:16:52They're very interesting possibilities.
0:16:52 > 0:16:53Does it have a garden?
0:16:53 > 0:16:54Cos if it had a garden,
0:16:54 > 0:16:58wouldn't they be putting in massive expense bills to trim it.
0:16:58 > 0:17:00Wouldn't we have heard about it?
0:17:00 > 0:17:02So, I'm going to pick B for now
0:17:02 > 0:17:03just provisionally.
0:17:03 > 0:17:07So, £500 up for grabs here.
0:17:07 > 0:17:11We have Rachel, of course, whose brother was the Mayor of London.
0:17:11 > 0:17:14We have June, involved in the Labour Party,
0:17:14 > 0:17:16visited 10 Downing Street many times.
0:17:16 > 0:17:18We have Michael, who has read the news
0:17:18 > 0:17:21and interviewed many politicians.
0:17:21 > 0:17:23I'm not putting any pressure on our panel
0:17:23 > 0:17:26but if we don't get this one correct...
0:17:26 > 0:17:29£500 at stake and the debate starts now.
0:17:29 > 0:17:32Well, the weird thing is that when somebody arrives
0:17:32 > 0:17:34at the front of 10 Downing Street,
0:17:34 > 0:17:37if it is Boris, they let him stay there for about 45 minutes,
0:17:37 > 0:17:41but if it's Larry the cat, the door opens immediately.
0:17:41 > 0:17:44- Now, come on. Let's...- So, we know it opens like that.- We do, we do.
0:17:44 > 0:17:46- And we also know there's a garden... - We know there's a garden.
0:17:46 > 0:17:49- ..because that's where Clegg and Cameron had their...- Loving.
0:17:49 > 0:17:52- ..marriage.- So, it's one of the other two.- I think it's the Queen.
0:17:52 > 0:17:54I think the Queen has never visited during her reign.
0:17:54 > 0:17:57I think it might be the front door, you know.
0:17:57 > 0:18:00- I've never seen anybody actually open it.- You knock and somebody...
0:18:00 > 0:18:02- I've been there on...- I don't think it's even got a door handle.
0:18:02 > 0:18:04I think it's got a smooth, black surface.
0:18:04 > 0:18:07- It might have a rapper. - It does have a rapper.
0:18:07 > 0:18:09It does have a rapper. It definitely has a rapper.
0:18:09 > 0:18:11It's definitely got a rapper. I'm a little undecided on this.
0:18:11 > 0:18:14- I think... Well, what do you think, Rachel?- I think it's the Queen.
0:18:14 > 0:18:16I think it's the Queen.
0:18:16 > 0:18:20I think it's the front door but the majority of the panel,
0:18:20 > 0:18:22which I have to go along with...
0:18:22 > 0:18:25- Not being bullied. It's a brave decision.- Hen-pecked.
0:18:25 > 0:18:27LAUGHTER
0:18:27 > 0:18:30They think, quite wrongly, but I have to go along with them,
0:18:30 > 0:18:34that it's the Queen has never visited during her reign.
0:18:34 > 0:18:37OK. Against Michael's better judgment
0:18:37 > 0:18:39or, indeed, worst judgment,
0:18:39 > 0:18:43he has decided to go with the Queen has never visited during her reign.
0:18:43 > 0:18:44Now, Michael also thought
0:18:44 > 0:18:47that the door at Number 10 didn't have a rapper but we have one here.
0:18:47 > 0:18:49LAUGHTER
0:18:49 > 0:18:52I'm here all week. I'm here all week. Thank you.
0:18:56 > 0:18:59OK. Anj, what do we think?
0:18:59 > 0:19:02OK. So, this is incredibly tough.
0:19:03 > 0:19:06I'm going to trust my panel on this one.
0:19:06 > 0:19:07- RACHEL:- Oh.
0:19:07 > 0:19:12Now, hopefully this might get me somewhere.
0:19:12 > 0:19:14I'm... I'm still not sure.
0:19:14 > 0:19:15I'm still dithering.
0:19:15 > 0:19:18Because the door thing,
0:19:18 > 0:19:22I keep coming back to the door thing in my mind, you know?
0:19:22 > 0:19:23And I can't actually imagine it
0:19:23 > 0:19:25being able to be opened from the outside.
0:19:25 > 0:19:26Oh.
0:19:27 > 0:19:30Well, OK, some people are going to think I'm crazy
0:19:30 > 0:19:32but maybe can we change it to A?
0:19:32 > 0:19:34So, you were going to go with the panel,
0:19:34 > 0:19:37you were going to say the Queen has never visited during her reign
0:19:37 > 0:19:39but you have changed your mind
0:19:39 > 0:19:44and said the front door can only be opened from the inside.
0:19:44 > 0:19:47You sure about this?
0:19:47 > 0:19:51- For national security purposes, I think it makes sense.- Yes.- OK.
0:19:51 > 0:19:53That's what Michael thinks as well.
0:19:53 > 0:19:57For £500, the correct answer is...
0:20:02 > 0:20:04- You're right!- Oh.
0:20:04 > 0:20:06- Yeah!- Well done.
0:20:06 > 0:20:08That is brilliant. That is brilliant.
0:20:08 > 0:20:10So, the front door has no handle,
0:20:10 > 0:20:13it does have a doorknob and a knocker
0:20:13 > 0:20:15but it cannot be used to open the door.
0:20:15 > 0:20:17- RACHEL:- I knew that was true.
0:20:17 > 0:20:19So, £500 is into the prize pot
0:20:19 > 0:20:21- bringing you up to £1,300. - Well done.
0:20:21 > 0:20:23- APPLAUSE - Lovely.
0:20:25 > 0:20:27Anj, you're playing a great game.
0:20:27 > 0:20:28We have one question left.
0:20:28 > 0:20:32- 500 at stake, let's try to get that prize pot up to £1,800.- OK, OK.
0:20:32 > 0:20:33Here it comes.
0:20:52 > 0:20:56This one is a great final question.
0:20:56 > 0:20:57It is a good final question.
0:20:57 > 0:21:00And the good news is we have our panel here.
0:21:00 > 0:21:04So, this will be a piece of cake as we pass it over to our panel
0:21:04 > 0:21:05for the final debate.
0:21:05 > 0:21:08- Shall we be ruthless and analytical here?- Yeah.
0:21:08 > 0:21:11So, let's see if we can just dispose of one.
0:21:11 > 0:21:14So, awarded every two years. What do you think about that?
0:21:14 > 0:21:16- It feels like it's awarded every two minutes.- Yeah.
0:21:16 > 0:21:19It's always coming around so I think that's wrong.
0:21:19 > 0:21:21It's just because newspapers like the one you work for
0:21:21 > 0:21:24get themselves into a tut-tut-tutting over it, isn't it?
0:21:24 > 0:21:26- I think it's awarded every year. - I think it's every year, yeah.
0:21:26 > 0:21:27- Do you?- Yeah. Yeah.
0:21:27 > 0:21:29Damien Hirst could easily have won it twice.
0:21:29 > 0:21:31I only know two people that might have.
0:21:31 > 0:21:33I don't think you're allowed to win it twice.
0:21:33 > 0:21:35I think it's once and that's it.
0:21:35 > 0:21:39And also, usually, it kind of makes their career, doesn't it?
0:21:39 > 0:21:41- They win it and then they become a household name after.- Yeah.
0:21:41 > 0:21:44- Or buries them. - Must be under 50 years old.
0:21:44 > 0:21:47That sounds a bit politically incorrect, doesn't it, these days?
0:21:47 > 0:21:49- It does, but it has a ring of truth to me.- Yes.
0:21:49 > 0:21:52- Because it's an art prize. - They're a contrary lot.
0:21:52 > 0:21:54And 50 would be young in the art world, wouldn't it?
0:21:54 > 0:21:57- And I can't think of any oldies who've won it.- No.
0:21:57 > 0:21:58That's prejudice.
0:21:58 > 0:22:00And, in fact, I can't really think of anyone who's won it,
0:22:00 > 0:22:02to be honest.
0:22:02 > 0:22:04- You're bluffing, Rachel, aren't you?- Chris Ofili has won it.
0:22:04 > 0:22:06But I think it's that one. I think it's the age one.
0:22:06 > 0:22:08- You think is the age one? - I do actually.- Yeah.
0:22:08 > 0:22:11- You think it's the age one?- Yeah. - I don't think it's that one.
0:22:11 > 0:22:13I think it's awarded every two years.
0:22:13 > 0:22:17- You both think it's under 50.- Yes.
0:22:19 > 0:22:25The panel goes for must be under 50 years old to win, quite wrongly.
0:22:27 > 0:22:30What do we think, Anj? 500 at stake.
0:22:30 > 0:22:32Hmm. Yeah.
0:22:32 > 0:22:37- So...- The last time you went with Michael Buerk, you did win.
0:22:37 > 0:22:39Again, I think I'm going to have to fall back on faith
0:22:39 > 0:22:41for this one in the panel.
0:22:41 > 0:22:44And go with the answer that they've given.
0:22:44 > 0:22:47So, you're going to go with C, must be under 50.
0:22:47 > 0:22:52So, to add 500 to the prize pot to bring it up to £1,800.
0:22:52 > 0:22:55The correct answer is...
0:22:59 > 0:23:03CHEERING AND APPLAUSE You were right to go with the panel.
0:23:03 > 0:23:07- High-five, Rachel.- Come on! - Oh, yeah. That's good.
0:23:07 > 0:23:10OK, the age limit of under 50 was introduced in 1991
0:23:10 > 0:23:13to clarify that the award wasn't a lifetime achievement award.
0:23:13 > 0:23:16- Hmm.- It's awarded annually
0:23:16 > 0:23:20and Damien Hirst won it only once in 1995.
0:23:20 > 0:23:25So, at the end of Round Three, your prize pot is up to £1,800.
0:23:25 > 0:23:27APPLAUSE
0:23:27 > 0:23:29How good is that? Well done.
0:23:29 > 0:23:30Pretty good, pretty good.
0:23:30 > 0:23:35OK, Anj, there is just one question that stands between you and £1,800
0:23:35 > 0:23:37and that is today's Final Debate.
0:23:37 > 0:23:40- OK.- As before, you're not going to be playing alone
0:23:40 > 0:23:42but we're going to make life a little bit more tricky
0:23:42 > 0:23:47by allowing you to choose just one celebrity from our panel.
0:23:47 > 0:23:50You and your celebrity will have 45 seconds to debate the question.
0:23:50 > 0:23:55So, based on what you've heard so far today,
0:23:55 > 0:23:58who would you like to join you in the Final Debate?
0:24:06 > 0:24:07They are a very good panel.
0:24:07 > 0:24:09They got warmed up in the end
0:24:09 > 0:24:12and they've all supplied very, very good answers and...
0:24:12 > 0:24:14- Do you know what? I reckon June.- Yeah.
0:24:14 > 0:24:18Because June is really quite sharp shooting at the answers
0:24:18 > 0:24:21and we're going to need to be under pressure for time.
0:24:21 > 0:24:23So, I think I'm going to go with June for this round.
0:24:23 > 0:24:25- OK.- On you go, babe.
0:24:25 > 0:24:29- OK, June, would you like to join us as we play the Final Debate?- Yes.
0:24:35 > 0:24:37So, June, are you feeling confident?
0:24:37 > 0:24:38No, nervous.
0:24:38 > 0:24:41- I think you performed really well. - Oh, thank you.
0:24:41 > 0:24:43Well, I want him to win the money so...
0:24:43 > 0:24:46- He's been doing very well, though, so far on his own.- He has.
0:24:46 > 0:24:48Five out of six questions correct.
0:24:48 > 0:24:50- You've agreed with the panel four times.- Yeah.
0:24:50 > 0:24:54You've got June to help you. £1,800 at stake so the best of luck.
0:24:54 > 0:24:57Let's have a little look at today's Final Debate categories.
0:24:59 > 0:25:01Hmm.
0:25:03 > 0:25:06- Oh.- Are you better at Food And Drink?- I think so.
0:25:06 > 0:25:08I think I'm better at Food And Drink as well.
0:25:08 > 0:25:10- Let's go with Food And Drink. - So, yeah.
0:25:10 > 0:25:12- We'll go for Food And Drink, please. - Confident about that?
0:25:12 > 0:25:15- Ish.- Yeah, ish.- OK.
0:25:15 > 0:25:21For £1,800, here is today's 45-second Final Debate question.
0:25:28 > 0:25:29Oh.
0:25:41 > 0:25:44So, Anj and June, for the final time,
0:25:44 > 0:25:46your 45-second debate starts now.
0:25:46 > 0:25:49- So, Sauvignon and champagne. - We know those two.
0:25:49 > 0:25:51- Definitely in there, aren't they? - Yeah.
0:25:51 > 0:25:52Jura, does that sound French?
0:25:52 > 0:25:55- I don't think so.- Piedmont sounds more French, doesn't it?
0:25:55 > 0:25:57- Yeah?- Yeah. Piedmont, maybe.
0:25:57 > 0:26:00- And Alsace, as well, sounds French. - Yeah.
0:26:00 > 0:26:02- Franconia sounds French but it sounds like a trick.- Very French.
0:26:02 > 0:26:04Yeah. That sounds like a trick.
0:26:04 > 0:26:07- I've never heard of Franconia wine, have you?- No, never.- No.
0:26:07 > 0:26:09- Have you ever heard of Piedmont? - Maybe.- Yeah?
0:26:09 > 0:26:11- Maybe.- Would you like a glass
0:26:11 > 0:26:13- of Piedmont?- Piedmont. Yeah. Oui.
0:26:13 > 0:26:16- Or would you like some Alsace? Alsace.- Alsace, I'm not sure.
0:26:16 > 0:26:19- Is Alsace even wine?- Yeah.
0:26:19 > 0:26:22- I think... Is that where Armagnac is made or something?- I don't know.
0:26:22 > 0:26:23Or some sort of brandy. I don't
0:26:23 > 0:26:25know. I'm not a massive drinker.
0:26:25 > 0:26:27- I actually don't drink.- Yeah.
0:26:27 > 0:26:29This is the worst question for me.
0:26:29 > 0:26:31Oh, it's better than sport though.
0:26:31 > 0:26:34- OK.- OK, time is up.
0:26:34 > 0:26:36We have found out that June doesn't drink
0:26:36 > 0:26:38and Anj is not a big drinker.
0:26:38 > 0:26:41You've chosen Food And Drink.
0:26:41 > 0:26:46So, Anj, we need three French wine regions for £1,800.
0:26:46 > 0:26:50- Piedmont over Alsace?- I think so. - Your first one, please.
0:26:50 > 0:26:53- Sauvignon.- Sauvignon. - Sauvignon.- Yeah.
0:26:53 > 0:26:55- Champagne.- Champagne.- Champagne.
0:26:55 > 0:26:57And...
0:26:57 > 0:26:59- Piedmont?- I think so.- Yeah.
0:26:59 > 0:27:01We'll go Piedmont.
0:27:01 > 0:27:03Piedmont.
0:27:03 > 0:27:08For £1,800 your answers were champagne, Sauvignon and Piedmont.
0:27:09 > 0:27:11- This is nerve-racking now.- Yeah.
0:27:11 > 0:27:13Let's see.
0:27:13 > 0:27:16The first, is champagne
0:27:16 > 0:27:18a correct answer?
0:27:20 > 0:27:24APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH
0:27:24 > 0:27:26Next you guys went for Sauvignon.
0:27:26 > 0:27:32Only two answers now between you and £1,800.
0:27:32 > 0:27:34Is Sauvignon a correct answer?
0:27:37 > 0:27:40It's the wrong answer.
0:27:40 > 0:27:43Unfortunately that means that you don't actually win
0:27:43 > 0:27:44today's prize pot.
0:27:44 > 0:27:47Sauvignon is a grape, it is not a region of France.
0:27:47 > 0:27:49- Oh, no.- Oh, my God.
0:27:49 > 0:27:53Let's take a look at the final two correct answers.
0:27:53 > 0:27:56- Alsace and Jura. - The ones we didn't think.- Yeah.
0:27:56 > 0:27:58Oh, well, we didn't have that.
0:27:58 > 0:28:01So, Anj, unfortunately you didn't win but have you had a nice time
0:28:01 > 0:28:03- playing the game? - Very much so, yeah.
0:28:03 > 0:28:06Great meeting everyone and it's been a great game.
0:28:06 > 0:28:08OK. Look, thanks so much for coming in.
0:28:08 > 0:28:11Give it up one more time, let's hear it for Anj. Well played.
0:28:11 > 0:28:15- APPLAUSE - Thank you.
0:28:15 > 0:28:16So, that is it for Debatable.
0:28:16 > 0:28:19There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel of
0:28:19 > 0:28:22June Sarpong, Rachel Johnson and Michael Buerk.
0:28:22 > 0:28:25APPLAUSE I do hope you've enjoyed watching.
0:28:25 > 0:28:27We will see you next time for more heated debates.
0:28:27 > 0:28:29For now, it's goodbye from me.