0:00:07 > 0:00:10APPLAUSE
0:00:12 > 0:00:15Hello and welcome to Debatable, the quiz show where talk is cheap
0:00:15 > 0:00:19but celebrity chat can win a contestant money.
0:00:19 > 0:00:23Today, one player must answer a series of tricky questions
0:00:23 > 0:00:26to try to bag our jackpot of ?2,000.
0:00:26 > 0:00:28But they're not on their own.
0:00:28 > 0:00:31They will also have a panel of celebrity brainboxes
0:00:31 > 0:00:33debating their way to the answer.
0:00:33 > 0:00:35Will they help or will they hinder?
0:00:35 > 0:00:38Well, that's debatable. So, let's meet them.
0:00:38 > 0:00:43On today's show, we have retired MP and writer Ann Widdecombe,
0:00:43 > 0:00:46broadcaster Dan Walker
0:00:46 > 0:00:48and comedian Russell Kane.
0:00:48 > 0:00:51APPLAUSE
0:00:51 > 0:00:55That is our panel. Let's meet today's contestant.
0:00:55 > 0:00:57It's Victoria Lee from Llanidloes.
0:00:57 > 0:01:01APPLAUSE
0:01:01 > 0:01:04Welcome to the show. Thank you. Tell us a bit about yourself.
0:01:04 > 0:01:06I work as a barmaid during the day
0:01:06 > 0:01:10but in the evening, I perform as a drag king.
0:01:10 > 0:01:12A drag KING? A drag king.
0:01:12 > 0:01:14Talk us through this drag king of which you speak.
0:01:14 > 0:01:19He's a World War II squadron leader... Yes.
0:01:19 > 0:01:22..with a massive handlebar moustache and a whole squadron.
0:01:22 > 0:01:25When did you start performing as a drag king?
0:01:25 > 0:01:28I've only been doing it for about eight months. It's very new.
0:01:28 > 0:01:33I went to Edinburgh Fringe last year and saw loads of cabaret
0:01:33 > 0:01:35because I'm quite involved in that sort of scene anyway,
0:01:35 > 0:01:38and I was like, "God, this is really for me. It will be amazing."
0:01:38 > 0:01:41It's actually quite empowering to dress up like a man.
0:01:41 > 0:01:44People treat you differently almost immediately.
0:01:44 > 0:01:46I find that when I dress up as a man.
0:01:46 > 0:01:48People treat me completely differently too.
0:01:48 > 0:01:51So, your general knowledge - what are you good on, what are we...?
0:01:51 > 0:01:57Literature, art. Not great on pop music or any films after about 1985.
0:01:57 > 0:02:01OK, well, let's see if our panel gel with you today.
0:02:01 > 0:02:05Let's get this debatable show on the road, Victoria, as we play Round 1.
0:02:08 > 0:02:10This round is multiple choice, Victoria.
0:02:10 > 0:02:13Each question has four possible answers.
0:02:13 > 0:02:16All we're looking for is the one correct answer.
0:02:16 > 0:02:20Helping you find that answer is, of course, our esteemed panel.
0:02:20 > 0:02:24Will you go with what they say or will you go your own way?
0:02:24 > 0:02:27We're about to find out. There's two questions in this round.
0:02:27 > 0:02:29Each question is worth ?200,
0:02:29 > 0:02:32so let's see if we can get ?400 at the end to put into that prize pot.
0:02:32 > 0:02:35So, let's get cracking. Here's your first question.
0:02:58 > 0:03:03Do you know what? It's Sport, so I have got less than no idea.
0:03:03 > 0:03:07But the good news is... Dan's here. Dan's here.
0:03:07 > 0:03:10My heart says Wimbledon because it's British
0:03:10 > 0:03:14and we like to play fair, but I'm going to see what the panel think.
0:03:14 > 0:03:18OK, panel, the debate starts now. I don't think it IS Wimbledon.
0:03:18 > 0:03:21I think Wimbledon was the last one to do it.
0:03:21 > 0:03:23I can remember all the controversy going on
0:03:23 > 0:03:24because they weren't doing it
0:03:24 > 0:03:27and I never saw why they should, given that women play fewer sets.
0:03:27 > 0:03:30But I can remember the controversy. You've opened up the can of worms.
0:03:30 > 0:03:33Well, I have but you're paid for what you do.
0:03:33 > 0:03:35I hope not - I'd be skint!
0:03:35 > 0:03:39So, I... They're no less athletes than the men are, though, are they?
0:03:39 > 0:03:41But I think Wimbledon were the last tournament
0:03:41 > 0:03:43out of all the Grand Slams.
0:03:43 > 0:03:47I have zero sport knowledge, so my way into this question would be
0:03:47 > 0:03:50how equal the genders are in those respective countries.
0:03:50 > 0:03:51Out of complete ignorance,
0:03:51 > 0:03:53I would always go into Europe for stuff like that.
0:03:53 > 0:03:55They tend to be better at stuff like that.
0:03:55 > 0:03:58The problem is, with Sport, logic normally goes out the window.
0:03:58 > 0:04:02That is the right way to approach it, but I think...
0:04:02 > 0:04:05It can't be the US. It IS the US. I think they were forced into it.
0:04:05 > 0:04:06How were they forced?
0:04:06 > 0:04:10Billie Jean King refused to take part in the '70s
0:04:10 > 0:04:12because she wasn't earning the same money as the men.
0:04:12 > 0:04:14I'm pretty sure it's the US Open.
0:04:14 > 0:04:17I wouldn't oppose you cos I haven't a clue.
0:04:17 > 0:04:20OK, the panel are going to go for the US Open
0:04:20 > 0:04:23as the first Grand Slam tennis tournament to go for equal pay.
0:04:23 > 0:04:25Fingers crossed for you, Victoria.
0:04:25 > 0:04:31OK, Victoria, Dan thinks that Billie Jean King changed things in America.
0:04:31 > 0:04:32What do you say?
0:04:32 > 0:04:37I had no idea but I do remember Billie Jean King very vaguely.
0:04:37 > 0:04:41I can't see the Australians being that into gender equality,
0:04:41 > 0:04:44so I'm going to go with Dan and say the US Open.
0:04:44 > 0:04:49OK, you are going for US Open. You are agreeing with the panel.
0:04:49 > 0:04:53Let's see if we can get you up and running for ?200.
0:04:53 > 0:04:55The correct answer is...
0:05:00 > 0:05:03It IS the US Open. Well done.
0:05:03 > 0:05:04APPLAUSE Thank you, Dan.
0:05:04 > 0:05:06You were right to go with the panel.
0:05:06 > 0:05:08Dan, right about the US Open
0:05:08 > 0:05:11and Dan also right that Wimbledon was the last tournament
0:05:11 > 0:05:13to actually bring it in.
0:05:13 > 0:05:16The US Open began offering equal pay in 1973,
0:05:16 > 0:05:20after being pushed by Billie Jean King. There she is.
0:05:20 > 0:05:23You're up and running. ?200 in the prize pot. Yay!
0:05:23 > 0:05:25APPLAUSE
0:05:25 > 0:05:28Here comes your next question.
0:05:48 > 0:05:51Victoria, what are you thinking? Could be any of them.
0:05:53 > 0:05:55I quite like Irritator, though.
0:05:55 > 0:05:58Any particular reason why you're drawn to that one?
0:05:58 > 0:06:01I don't know, I just like the name. You just like the name.
0:06:01 > 0:06:04I would imagine that dinosaurs would be quite irritating.
0:06:04 > 0:06:06LAUGHTER As simple as that.
0:06:06 > 0:06:07If one was here now.
0:06:07 > 0:06:11OK, let's see if our panel has any more knowledge to bring to this.
0:06:11 > 0:06:13The debate starts now.
0:06:13 > 0:06:16Crackinator sounds like a really good Irish comedian.
0:06:16 > 0:06:19LAUGHTER Don't look at me!
0:06:19 > 0:06:22He's the Crackinator - just one joke after another.
0:06:22 > 0:06:24He's the Crackinator! I'm the Crackinator!
0:06:24 > 0:06:26If you actually look at what they mean...
0:06:26 > 0:06:29I mean, a terminator ends things,
0:06:29 > 0:06:31a dominator dominates,
0:06:31 > 0:06:34so I can imagine that you might have a very large, dominant dinosaur.
0:06:34 > 0:06:38Like Victoria, I'm sort of strangely drawn to Irritator,
0:06:38 > 0:06:40but I can give you no reason as to why.
0:06:40 > 0:06:42It's got a genuine Latin root,
0:06:42 > 0:06:45whereas where does Crackinator come from? What is Crackinator?
0:06:45 > 0:06:47I still think it might be Crackinator but I'd be willing
0:06:47 > 0:06:49to go with Ann's logic on domination
0:06:49 > 0:06:52and it being part of its characteristic
0:06:52 > 0:06:54of "Grrr," towering over things.
0:06:54 > 0:06:56OK, so the conclusion of the panel is we think
0:06:56 > 0:06:58it might be three of them.
0:06:58 > 0:06:59We've got Dominator, Crackinator
0:06:59 > 0:07:02but I'm strangely drawn to Irritator,
0:07:02 > 0:07:07so as sort of skipper, I believe, go for Irritator.
0:07:09 > 0:07:14So, our panel undecided but Dan has gone with his gut reaction.
0:07:14 > 0:07:18Has that helped? Not in any way. No.
0:07:18 > 0:07:22Terminator just seems too obvious, Dominator just seems too obvious.
0:07:22 > 0:07:25I'm going for Irritator cos it makes me laugh.
0:07:25 > 0:07:29I like to think of a dinosaur that's called an Irritator.
0:07:29 > 0:07:30And for no other reason.
0:07:30 > 0:07:36For no other reason than we think Irritator is a comedy dinosaur.
0:07:36 > 0:07:38LAUGHTER
0:07:38 > 0:07:41Is it Irritator for ?200? I doubt it.
0:07:45 > 0:07:48Wow! It's the correct answer! Oh, my gosh!
0:07:48 > 0:07:51APPLAUSE It is the correct answer.
0:07:51 > 0:07:54The species was actually classified in 1996.
0:07:54 > 0:07:57It was classified from a fossil that a dealer had modified
0:07:57 > 0:07:59using car body filler.
0:07:59 > 0:08:04By the time the palaeontologist cleaned it off and classified it,
0:08:04 > 0:08:08the whole ordeal had become "irritating". Is that really why...?
0:08:08 > 0:08:10That's why they called it Irritator.
0:08:10 > 0:08:13Well done. We have stumbled across the correct answer.
0:08:13 > 0:08:15It's another ?200 in the bank
0:08:15 > 0:08:19and it means that the prize pot at the end of Round 1, ?400!
0:08:19 > 0:08:22Yes! Well done. Thank you. APPLAUSE
0:08:22 > 0:08:25Well played. Well, let's see how they cope with pictures.
0:08:25 > 0:08:27It is time for Round 2.
0:08:30 > 0:08:32OK, Victoria, Round 2 is the picture round.
0:08:32 > 0:08:37All you have to do is place three pictures in the correct order.
0:08:37 > 0:08:40Each correct answer is worth ?300.
0:08:40 > 0:08:43There are two questions in this round. Here we go.
0:09:02 > 0:09:05I would go, I think, with...
0:09:07 > 0:09:09..National Lottery,
0:09:09 > 0:09:12Dolly the sheep and then Diana.
0:09:12 > 0:09:14I think. You think. I think.
0:09:14 > 0:09:15Don't worry. Not certain.
0:09:15 > 0:09:16You don't need to be certain
0:09:16 > 0:09:20because our panel will no doubt bring certainty to the matter.
0:09:20 > 0:09:23Your debate starts now.
0:09:23 > 0:09:26I think the Diana interview might be '94,
0:09:26 > 0:09:27the lottery about '93.
0:09:27 > 0:09:30Dolly the sheep I'm sure was about '95, '96.
0:09:30 > 0:09:33See, most of my memories are based around sporting events
0:09:33 > 0:09:36and I'm sure that was the summer of Euro '96.
0:09:36 > 0:09:38The England manager at the time, Terry Venables,
0:09:38 > 0:09:40there was quite a big ho-hum.
0:09:40 > 0:09:42He was getting asked in interviews about Dolly the sheep
0:09:42 > 0:09:44and he was trying to concentrate on the football.
0:09:44 > 0:09:47He was trying to clone Gary Lineker at the time. Yeah!
0:09:47 > 0:09:49I think the lottery is about 1992.
0:09:49 > 0:09:52I think Diana is about '94 and I think this is '95 or '96.
0:09:52 > 0:09:53So, we're going to stick
0:09:53 > 0:09:55with the order we've got them in on the table.
0:09:55 > 0:09:59Which actually coincides with Victoria's assessment. Yes.
0:09:59 > 0:10:01OK, so, in summary,
0:10:01 > 0:10:05we are going for National Lottery as the earliest one,
0:10:05 > 0:10:08followed by the Diana interview with Martin Bashir,
0:10:08 > 0:10:11and right at the end, we think '95, '96 for Dolly the sheep.
0:10:13 > 0:10:17So, our panel going along with your first thought there, Victoria.
0:10:17 > 0:10:19Now I've had a think about it, I'm going to swap the first two.
0:10:19 > 0:10:23I'm going to swap Diana with the National Lottery,
0:10:23 > 0:10:25purely based on Diana, her hair.
0:10:25 > 0:10:28That haircut is early '90s, I would say.
0:10:28 > 0:10:30Oh! And that suit. Look at it.
0:10:30 > 0:10:34Good knowledge. Just on the haircut.
0:10:35 > 0:10:39Do we think that Dolly the sheep's haircut is...
0:10:39 > 0:10:43more or less current than Diana's in that picture? That's probably '70s.
0:10:43 > 0:10:45I live in a Welsh farming community.
0:10:45 > 0:10:46Dolly hasn't had a haircut.
0:10:46 > 0:10:49Dolly hasn't had a haircut. No.
0:10:49 > 0:10:51OK. I'm going to go Diana, lottery, Dolly.
0:10:51 > 0:10:54You're going Diana, the earliest, then the lottery,
0:10:54 > 0:10:56then Dolly the sheep cloned. Yeah. OK, here we go.
0:10:58 > 0:11:01So, you're going against the panel. I am.
0:11:01 > 0:11:06For ?300, is Diana being interviewed by Martin Bashir
0:11:06 > 0:11:08followed by the National Lottery,
0:11:08 > 0:11:13then Dolly the sheep cloned, the correct chronological order?
0:11:19 > 0:11:20Oh! AUDIENCE GROANS
0:11:20 > 0:11:24The wrong order. Let's see the right order, Victoria.
0:11:26 > 0:11:29Oh, dagnabbit! The panel were right.
0:11:29 > 0:11:32The National Lottery, Diana and then Dolly the sheep.
0:11:32 > 0:11:33I should have listened to the panel.
0:11:33 > 0:11:37National Lottery was launched in 1994,
0:11:37 > 0:11:40Diana interviewed by Martin Bashir in '95,
0:11:40 > 0:11:44and you were right, Dan, Dolly the sheep, '96,
0:11:44 > 0:11:46the same year as the Euros.
0:11:46 > 0:11:49Those football tournaments help sometimes, don't they?
0:11:49 > 0:11:51I would never have put those together. That's really good work!
0:11:51 > 0:11:54Unfortunately, you did get that question wrong
0:11:54 > 0:11:57but you still have ?400 in your prize pot.
0:11:57 > 0:11:59We've got lots of opportunity to get that up,
0:11:59 > 0:12:00so here's your next question. Right.
0:12:15 > 0:12:19Can we work it out from the haircuts? Probably, ooh.
0:12:19 > 0:12:21That's probably quite an old picture of Maggie Smith.
0:12:21 > 0:12:27I would go Helen Mirren, Judi Dench, Maggie Smith.
0:12:28 > 0:12:31Your first thought, Helen Mirren, Judi Dench, Maggie Smith.
0:12:31 > 0:12:34Panel, the debate starts now.
0:12:34 > 0:12:36We made some disapproving noises on that one.
0:12:36 > 0:12:38I'm pretty certain Maggie Smith came first.
0:12:38 > 0:12:42Wouldn't you say that Judi Dench was the bigger in reputation actress
0:12:42 > 0:12:44up until...? No, Maggie Smith.
0:12:44 > 0:12:48I can remember her playing at the National Theatre in the '60s,
0:12:48 > 0:12:51in the mid '60s, playing with people like Olivier,
0:12:51 > 0:12:54playing Desdemona, playing big Shakespearean parts.
0:12:54 > 0:12:55I think she came first.
0:12:55 > 0:12:57We can safely put Mirren at the most recent though.
0:12:57 > 0:13:00There was definitely some hoo-ha about one of them
0:13:00 > 0:13:02being in the game a long time and not being made a dame
0:13:02 > 0:13:04and I'm sure that was Helen Mirren. I'll put Helen here then.
0:13:04 > 0:13:06Put Helen at that end.
0:13:06 > 0:13:08Helen Mirren we think is the most recent,
0:13:08 > 0:13:11so then it's a toss-up between... I would back Maggie Smith.
0:13:11 > 0:13:15I know Russell wants Judi Dench. You have to decide.
0:13:15 > 0:13:18Ooh, I do like the responsibility. Right, I'm going to go...
0:13:18 > 0:13:21We're going to go in a 4-4-2 formation.
0:13:21 > 0:13:23We'll have Judi just behind Maggie,
0:13:23 > 0:13:26with Helen supporting on the left wing. A defender.
0:13:26 > 0:13:29We're going to go Judi Dench as the first one,
0:13:29 > 0:13:33followed by Maggie Smith, and then, eventually, Helen Mirren.
0:13:34 > 0:13:38The panel have decided Judi Dench, Maggie Smith and Helen Mirren.
0:13:38 > 0:13:40You, of course, went for Maggie Smith,
0:13:40 > 0:13:42Judi Dench and then Helen Mirren.
0:13:42 > 0:13:44What do we think now?
0:13:44 > 0:13:47Even though the panel have been right and I've been wrong before,
0:13:47 > 0:13:51Ann just seemed so very sure about her order,
0:13:51 > 0:13:52which was the same as mine.
0:13:52 > 0:13:55So I'm going to stick with what I said originally.
0:13:55 > 0:13:57So, you're going against the panel. Again!
0:13:57 > 0:14:02You are going with Ann's suggestion that Maggie Smith was the first,
0:14:02 > 0:14:04then Judi Dench, then Helen Mirren.
0:14:04 > 0:14:10OK, for ?300, is this the correct order?
0:14:16 > 0:14:20Oh! Wrong order.
0:14:20 > 0:14:23Let's have a little look here at the correct order.
0:14:26 > 0:14:28Oh! I'm so sorry, guys.
0:14:28 > 0:14:31It was Judi Dench then Maggie Smith then Helen Mirren.
0:14:31 > 0:14:33Judi Dench got hers in 1988,
0:14:33 > 0:14:35Maggie Smith, 1990,
0:14:35 > 0:14:38and Helen Mirren, she didn't get hers until 2003.
0:14:38 > 0:14:41Dame Maggie Smith and Dame Judi Dench have been friends
0:14:41 > 0:14:43for over half a century
0:14:43 > 0:14:46and are just 19 days apart in age. Ah.
0:14:46 > 0:14:49Victoria, I'm sorry, but you didn't manage to bank anything.
0:14:49 > 0:14:53I kind of bombed, bombed that round. Your prize pot is still ?400.
0:14:53 > 0:14:56APPLAUSE
0:14:56 > 0:15:01Now, so far, our panel have 100% record.
0:15:01 > 0:15:03That's why they're looking slightly pleased with themselves.
0:15:03 > 0:15:05As they should.
0:15:05 > 0:15:08But you can only choose one of them to play the final debate with.
0:15:08 > 0:15:10Based on their 100% record,
0:15:10 > 0:15:14who would you like to take you into that debate currently?
0:15:14 > 0:15:16Russell. Oh, Russell, straightaway.
0:15:16 > 0:15:21OK, there's still another ?1,000 up for grabs, as we play Round 3.
0:15:24 > 0:15:27OK, Victoria, in this round, you'll face questions
0:15:27 > 0:15:31that contain three statements about a person, a place or a thing,
0:15:31 > 0:15:34but only one of those statements is true. You must decide which one.
0:15:34 > 0:15:36There are two questions again in this round
0:15:36 > 0:15:39but because it's our final round, we can get the prize pot up,
0:15:39 > 0:15:43as each of those correct answers will be worth ?500.
0:15:43 > 0:15:46So, best of luck. Here we go. Thank you.
0:16:08 > 0:16:09Ooh.
0:16:10 > 0:16:16I, at the moment, would say, "Only ever performed in North America."
0:16:17 > 0:16:21Ann is nodding. Let's head over. The debate starts now.
0:16:21 > 0:16:23Ooh, shall we do them in order? First name not Elvis.
0:16:23 > 0:16:28I thought he WAS an Elvis, wasn't he? Can you ever recall hearing...?
0:16:28 > 0:16:30I mean, like Cliff was Harry Webb.
0:16:30 > 0:16:32Can you ever recall hearing anything like that about Elvis.
0:16:32 > 0:16:34I'm pretty sure his first name's Elvis.
0:16:34 > 0:16:36He had, like, 20 UK number ones, didn't he?
0:16:36 > 0:16:37But I don't know whether he had some
0:16:37 > 0:16:39before he had a number one in the UK.
0:16:39 > 0:16:43I think the last is the most promising. I'm almost...
0:16:43 > 0:16:47I can't think of a single image of him performing anywhere else. No.
0:16:47 > 0:16:49Maybe Canada. He certainly never came here.
0:16:49 > 0:16:51It's phrased as North America, so maybe he went to Canada.
0:16:51 > 0:16:54There was a massive clamour for him to come to Europe
0:16:54 > 0:16:56and to play in England, but I don't think he ever did.
0:16:56 > 0:16:59Unless Ann Widdecombe went to see Elvis somewhere.
0:16:59 > 0:17:02Er, no, because I would probably have had to have gone to America
0:17:02 > 0:17:06to do so because he never came here. I DO know that.
0:17:06 > 0:17:08I was a teenager at the height of Elvis mania
0:17:08 > 0:17:10and he certainly never came here.
0:17:10 > 0:17:13Happy to go with that? Yes. Yeah. OK.
0:17:13 > 0:17:16Um, we've got a unified panel and we all believe
0:17:16 > 0:17:18that the fact you are seeking
0:17:18 > 0:17:21is the one that Elvis Presley only ever played in North America.
0:17:24 > 0:17:28So, Victoria, that's what our panel think. Any sense been talked there?
0:17:28 > 0:17:32I totally agree with the panel. I'm going for C.
0:17:32 > 0:17:37So, you think that Elvis only ever performed in North America.
0:17:37 > 0:17:42For ?500, the correct statement is...
0:17:47 > 0:17:49Yes! He did.
0:17:49 > 0:17:51APPLAUSE
0:17:51 > 0:17:54He did. He only ever performed in North America,
0:17:54 > 0:17:57partly because his manager, Colonel Parker,
0:17:57 > 0:18:01was actually Dutch and an illegal immigrant into the US,
0:18:01 > 0:18:03so if he left, he wouldn't get back.
0:18:03 > 0:18:06Elvis was actually born Elvis Aaron Presley.
0:18:06 > 0:18:10Heartbreak Hotel was his first UK hit single
0:18:10 > 0:18:14and it peaked at number two in 1956.
0:18:14 > 0:18:20He also only performed five shows ever outside of America
0:18:20 > 0:18:22and those five shows were in... Canada.
0:18:22 > 0:18:25Canada. That was it. Good knowledge.
0:18:25 > 0:18:28Well done. So, we've got ?500 added to the prize pot.
0:18:28 > 0:18:31That brings you a total of ?900.
0:18:31 > 0:18:34APPLAUSE
0:18:34 > 0:18:37Still another ?500 to play for.
0:18:37 > 0:18:40Let's get this up to ?1,400. We're on a roll. Here we go.
0:19:01 > 0:19:06Not A. Pretty sure it's only got two moons. They're quite small moons.
0:19:08 > 0:19:11My feeling is C but then I have a feeling it might not be C
0:19:11 > 0:19:13because C was the answer last time. LAUGHTER
0:19:13 > 0:19:17But... Mercury... Good scientific working out.
0:19:17 > 0:19:20Mercury's the smallest planet in the solar system. It's weeny.
0:19:20 > 0:19:22So, my feeling is C,
0:19:22 > 0:19:24but I'm interested in what the panel has to say, obviously.
0:19:24 > 0:19:28OK, panel, over to you.
0:19:28 > 0:19:29It's funny, cos we were quite interested
0:19:29 > 0:19:33in what Victoria had to say. Can you come and sit here?
0:19:33 > 0:19:36Um, are we counting Pluto as a planet or not?
0:19:36 > 0:19:38Cos it's been a planet and not a planet
0:19:38 > 0:19:41about five times in the last ten years. It's terribly specific there.
0:19:41 > 0:19:45It says smallest by diameter not mass - by diameter.
0:19:45 > 0:19:48Yeah, well, Mercury's like a tiny dot that goes round the sun.
0:19:48 > 0:19:51It's a little speck. So then it cannot be Mars. No, correct.
0:19:51 > 0:19:53So, we can discount the top one. We can get rid of one.
0:19:53 > 0:19:58My knowledge of Mars doesn't really extend much beyond Total Recall
0:19:58 > 0:20:00with Arnold Schwarzenegger, so...
0:20:00 > 0:20:03Yes, but when he looks up... I'm trying to think of the moons.
0:20:03 > 0:20:05Yeah, there's two, isn't there? Yeah.
0:20:05 > 0:20:07LAUGHTER
0:20:07 > 0:20:09Unless anybody thinks that there's three moons,
0:20:09 > 0:20:11then it's got to be that one, doesn't it?
0:20:11 > 0:20:13I have a Mars two moon memory as well.
0:20:13 > 0:20:15I have a very vague two moon memory but it's vague.
0:20:15 > 0:20:17Where does your two moon memory...?
0:20:17 > 0:20:20Is it science or is this Total Recall as well?
0:20:20 > 0:20:22You know when he's burning up outside and he looks up?
0:20:22 > 0:20:24Yeah, that's the same scene, yeah.
0:20:24 > 0:20:27We're not sure that it's the first in Holst's Planets suite,
0:20:27 > 0:20:30but it seems... If you eliminate the other two,
0:20:30 > 0:20:31then that becomes the answer.
0:20:31 > 0:20:34Obviously, musically, you'd think you would start from Mercury
0:20:34 > 0:20:37and sing your way out to Pluto. That's what I would do.
0:20:37 > 0:20:39With a big chorus about Earth in the middle, obviously.
0:20:39 > 0:20:42But if it's not the other two, it has to be Holst.
0:20:42 > 0:20:45Ann, you always worry me with the hands on the head.
0:20:45 > 0:20:48Yeah, I worry myself with my hands on my head.
0:20:48 > 0:20:51It means I'm plagued by doubt. Speak to me about your concerns.
0:20:51 > 0:20:55I'm not concerned about the first one because you've rightly said
0:20:55 > 0:20:58that Mercury's a speck, so I'm not concerned about the first one.
0:20:58 > 0:21:01So, it's just the moony thing? It's the moony thing.
0:21:01 > 0:21:06But I'm sure I was told Earth one, Mars two. I'm sure it's two.
0:21:06 > 0:21:10OK, we've got Widdecombe on board, so... I think you have, yeah.
0:21:10 > 0:21:14One, two, three, we are fully supporting your Holst idea.
0:21:14 > 0:21:16That's what we're going to go for.
0:21:17 > 0:21:21OK, with absolutely no musical knowledge whatsoever,
0:21:21 > 0:21:23our panel has decided
0:21:23 > 0:21:26that is the first planet in Holst's The Planets suite.
0:21:26 > 0:21:28That was my first instinct.
0:21:28 > 0:21:30I'm...going with my first instinct
0:21:30 > 0:21:33and the backing of the panel.
0:21:34 > 0:21:38OK, we're going with the panel to try to get you up to ?1,400.
0:21:39 > 0:21:42Let's find out which statement is true.
0:21:49 > 0:21:53Yes! It is! APPLAUSE
0:21:53 > 0:21:56It is the first planet in Holst's The Planets suite.
0:21:56 > 0:21:59Now Pluto is a dwarf planet,
0:21:59 > 0:22:02Mercury is the smallest planet by diameter,
0:22:02 > 0:22:04with Mars the second smallest.
0:22:04 > 0:22:08Mars does have two moons - Phobos and Deimos.
0:22:08 > 0:22:12Mars, The Bringer Of War, is the first piece out of seven
0:22:12 > 0:22:15in Gustav Holst's The Planets suite.
0:22:15 > 0:22:19And that means that ?500 has been added to your prize pot
0:22:19 > 0:22:21and we're up to ?1,400. Whoo!
0:22:21 > 0:22:24APPLAUSE
0:22:24 > 0:22:28Well done. Thank you. OK, Victoria, ?1,400.
0:22:28 > 0:22:30If we manage to walk away with that today,
0:22:30 > 0:22:32what are you going to spend it on?
0:22:32 > 0:22:34Well, my daughter's getting married next year,
0:22:34 > 0:22:37so I'm going to put it towards her having a cracking wedding. Ah.
0:22:37 > 0:22:39Very good, very good.
0:22:39 > 0:22:42There's just one question that stands between you and that ?1,400
0:22:42 > 0:22:45and that is today's final debate.
0:22:45 > 0:22:49Now, Victoria, you will face only one question in the final debate.
0:22:49 > 0:22:52That question will have six possible answers
0:22:52 > 0:22:54and only three are correct.
0:22:54 > 0:22:57We need you to give me all three correct answers
0:22:57 > 0:22:59in order to walk away with the cash.
0:22:59 > 0:23:02As before you're not going to be playing alone,
0:23:02 > 0:23:03but as this is the final debate,
0:23:03 > 0:23:05we're going to make life a bit more tricky,
0:23:05 > 0:23:09as you can only access one celebrity in order to help you.
0:23:09 > 0:23:12You and your celebrity will have 45 seconds to debate the question.
0:23:12 > 0:23:14So, I can't believe I'm saying this,
0:23:14 > 0:23:16our panel have had 100% record today.
0:23:16 > 0:23:20Come on! What a panel, eh?! Absolutely every one right.
0:23:20 > 0:23:22APPLAUSE
0:23:22 > 0:23:23So, out of our panel,
0:23:23 > 0:23:26who would you like to join you for the final debate?
0:23:33 > 0:23:37I'm going to go with Russell cos he's been quite the dark horse,
0:23:37 > 0:23:40I think. Really? He's got quite an expansive knowledge base.
0:23:40 > 0:23:42It's just Fake Bake, that's all it is.
0:23:42 > 0:23:46OK, Russell, can you join us as we play the final debate. Oh!
0:23:46 > 0:23:50VICTORIA LAUGHS APPLAUSE
0:23:52 > 0:23:57OK, Russell, Victoria has put her faith in you for the final debate.
0:23:57 > 0:24:00Has she done the right thing? I'm going to go for it.
0:24:00 > 0:24:02I'm going to be a marine of the moolah
0:24:02 > 0:24:04and steam in and take the cash. I'm going to do my best.
0:24:04 > 0:24:07OK, Victoria, because it is the final debate,
0:24:07 > 0:24:09we're going to give you a choice.
0:24:09 > 0:24:11We're going to give you two categories to choose from,
0:24:11 > 0:24:12so here they are.
0:24:18 > 0:24:19Hmm...
0:24:19 > 0:24:23I don't think I'll be any good on bridges and clocks and sculptures.
0:24:23 > 0:24:25No, me neither.
0:24:25 > 0:24:30But if types of vole or cat or anything come up,
0:24:30 > 0:24:33we're in with a fighting chance based on the word roots. Yeah.
0:24:33 > 0:24:35Do you watch a few nature programmes?
0:24:35 > 0:24:38I do watch a few nature programmes. My Latin is kind of OK.
0:24:38 > 0:24:40We could come a cropper here but I think...
0:24:40 > 0:24:43Yeah, Landmarks, I'm completely not confident about. No.
0:24:43 > 0:24:47So... This is a landmark performance of which I've given a few.
0:24:47 > 0:24:49LAUGHTER Just saying.
0:24:49 > 0:24:52Or landmarks based in the town that I live.
0:24:52 > 0:24:57I'd ace it. But that's unlikely, so Nature? Nature.
0:24:57 > 0:25:02All right, Victoria, you have chosen Nature for ?1,400.
0:25:02 > 0:25:0345 seconds on the clock.
0:25:03 > 0:25:05Best of luck to you both.
0:25:05 > 0:25:08Here is today's final debate question.
0:25:32 > 0:25:35So, Victoria and Russell, for the final time today,
0:25:35 > 0:25:37your 45 seconds starts now.
0:25:37 > 0:25:41One question - is the Siberian tiger extinct? Gosh, I don't know.
0:25:41 > 0:25:43And where's that likely to crop up?
0:25:43 > 0:25:45That would be Russia, surely.
0:25:45 > 0:25:47Japan - there's a lot of them
0:25:47 > 0:25:49in Japanese art but I'm not sure.
0:25:49 > 0:25:51Sri Lanka... Hang on, Japan's an island,
0:25:51 > 0:25:53so the tigers would have had to get across there.
0:25:53 > 0:25:55Mind you, Indonesia's... I think Indonesia...
0:25:55 > 0:25:58Bangladesh has got tigers, hasn't it? Yep.
0:25:58 > 0:25:59Because it's India
0:25:59 > 0:26:01and there's tigers in India.
0:26:01 > 0:26:03Bangladesh, Malaysia...
0:26:06 > 0:26:09Sri Lanka... 15 seconds. Sri Lanka, tigers...
0:26:11 > 0:26:16They don't have... It could be... I don't think Afghanistan.
0:26:16 > 0:26:20I think Bangladesh, Indonesia and then possibly Malaysia or...
0:26:20 > 0:26:22Sri Lanka's a separate island, remember that. Yeah.
0:26:22 > 0:26:25KLAXON OK, Victoria,
0:26:25 > 0:26:26I need three answers, please.
0:26:26 > 0:26:28Bangladesh,
0:26:28 > 0:26:30Indonesia,
0:26:30 > 0:26:32Malaysia.
0:26:32 > 0:26:36Victoria, you went Bangladesh, Indonesia and Malaysia.
0:26:36 > 0:26:39If those are the three countries that have tigers in the wild,
0:26:39 > 0:26:41you'll leave with ?1,400.
0:26:41 > 0:26:44I'm afraid if they're not all correct, you'll leave with nothing.
0:26:44 > 0:26:47Here we go. First up, you said Bangladesh.
0:26:47 > 0:26:51Is Bangladesh a country that has tigers in the wild?
0:26:56 > 0:26:58It is. Well done. Up and running. Oh!
0:26:58 > 0:27:01APPLAUSE
0:27:01 > 0:27:07Next, you said Indonesia. Does Indonesia have tigers in the wild?
0:27:14 > 0:27:17It does! Phew!
0:27:17 > 0:27:22Two for two. Just one more and you bag that ?1,400. Oh!
0:27:22 > 0:27:26But I'm afraid if Malaysia is the wrong answer
0:27:26 > 0:27:28then you leave with nothing.
0:27:28 > 0:27:31You did mention Sri Lanka at one point. Oh, shush!
0:27:31 > 0:27:33Plumped for Malaysia.
0:27:33 > 0:27:36Does Malaysia, for ?1,400, have tigers in the wild?
0:27:47 > 0:27:49It does!
0:27:49 > 0:27:52LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:27:52 > 0:27:54Yes! You're coming to the wedding!
0:27:56 > 0:27:59I knew it couldn't be the islands. Well done!
0:27:59 > 0:28:02Well played! Thank you so much! Congratulations, well done.
0:28:02 > 0:28:06Oh, my God, that was horrible! Thank you! The wedding is on!
0:28:06 > 0:28:09I knew a tiger couldn't have flown across to Sri Lanka or Japan.
0:28:09 > 0:28:11You just couldn't imagine it, could you, floating across?
0:28:11 > 0:28:14Well played, Russell. Well done, Victoria. You leave with ?1,400.
0:28:14 > 0:28:17That is it for Debatable.
0:28:17 > 0:28:20There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel.
0:28:20 > 0:28:23To Russell Kane, Ann Widdecombe and Dan Walker.
0:28:23 > 0:28:26APPLAUSE
0:28:26 > 0:28:28I hope you've enjoyed watching.
0:28:28 > 0:28:30We will see you next time for more heated debates.
0:28:30 > 0:28:32For now, it's goodbye from me.
0:28:32 > 0:28:34APPLAUSE