0:00:09 > 0:00:14APPLAUSE
0:00:14 > 0:00:15Hello and welcome to Debatable,
0:00:15 > 0:00:17the quiz show where talk is cheap
0:00:17 > 0:00:21but celebrity chat can win a contestant money.
0:00:21 > 0:00:24This week, we'll be playing five special extra-long editions
0:00:24 > 0:00:28because celebrity chat, as we know, is priceless.
0:00:28 > 0:00:30One player must answer a series of tricky questions
0:00:30 > 0:00:35to try to win a jackpot of ?3,000 but they're not on their own
0:00:35 > 0:00:38as they'll also have a panel of celebrity brainboxes
0:00:38 > 0:00:40debating their way to the answer.
0:00:40 > 0:00:43Will they help or will they hinder? Well, that's Debatable.
0:00:43 > 0:00:45So, let's meet them.
0:00:45 > 0:00:48On today's show we have retired MP and writer Ann Widdecombe...
0:00:50 > 0:00:52..broadcaster Dan Walker,
0:00:52 > 0:00:54and comedian Russell Kane.
0:00:54 > 0:00:57APPLAUSE
0:00:59 > 0:01:02All right, that is our panel. Let's meet today's contestant.
0:01:05 > 0:01:07It's Gordon McCranor from Lincolnshire.
0:01:07 > 0:01:09How are you doing, sir? Great. Great to be here.
0:01:09 > 0:01:11Tell us a little bit about yourself.
0:01:11 > 0:01:13I'm a part-time supply teacher,
0:01:13 > 0:01:15I took early retirement from teaching last year.
0:01:16 > 0:01:18So I still do a bit of supply,
0:01:18 > 0:01:21but my main passion is making cigar box guitars
0:01:21 > 0:01:24and slide guitars and selling them at music festivals.
0:01:24 > 0:01:25Come on. And you're also in a band yourself?
0:01:25 > 0:01:29I'm in a ukulele band, yes. So we make ukuleles as well.
0:01:29 > 0:01:32So you like your music, you like your festivals,
0:01:32 > 0:01:34you're off to New Orleans with your brother.
0:01:34 > 0:01:37I go to new Orleans every year with my brother, yeah.
0:01:37 > 0:01:40We go every over for the music. It's a fantastic place.
0:01:40 > 0:01:42It's one of my favourite places in the world, I must say, yeah.
0:01:42 > 0:01:44OK, so, what's your strongest topics today?
0:01:44 > 0:01:47What are you hoping's going to come up? What are you hoping to avoid?
0:01:47 > 0:01:51Music, I'm OK with that. Geography, travel, that should be good stuff.
0:01:51 > 0:01:52And then we'll see what happens.
0:01:52 > 0:01:56I might be relying on some people for politics and sport and comedy.
0:01:56 > 0:01:58OK, look, best of luck. Thanks a lot.
0:01:58 > 0:02:01Let's get this Debatable show on the road as we play Round One.
0:02:05 > 0:02:07OK, Gordon, this round is multiple choice.
0:02:07 > 0:02:11Each question has four possible answers but only one is correct.
0:02:11 > 0:02:15Now helping you find the correct answer is our esteemed panel.
0:02:15 > 0:02:17Will you go with what they say or will you go your own way?
0:02:17 > 0:02:20It is entirely up to you. Three questions in the round.
0:02:20 > 0:02:24Each question is worth ?200 which we will bank for you
0:02:24 > 0:02:27for your final debate at the end of the show.
0:02:27 > 0:02:29Excellent. Ready to play? Let's do it. OK, best of luck.
0:02:29 > 0:02:31Let's get cracking. Here we go. Question one.
0:02:50 > 0:02:53Any thoughts, first of all, Gordon?
0:02:53 > 0:02:54I think I'd probably go for an antrat.
0:02:54 > 0:02:58OK. You're going for antrat.
0:02:58 > 0:03:00Let's see what our panel make of this.
0:03:00 > 0:03:05It's over to you for our first debate. Starts now. Well...
0:03:05 > 0:03:07Can anybody picture an aardvark in their minds?
0:03:07 > 0:03:08BOTH: Yes.
0:03:08 > 0:03:10Right, OK, what does is it look like most?
0:03:10 > 0:03:13Quite long in snout, claws.
0:03:13 > 0:03:16Gordon went for sort of antrat off the bat
0:03:16 > 0:03:17and I think bear seems a bit weird.
0:03:17 > 0:03:19But does it, though?
0:03:19 > 0:03:21You got two choices here. You can go with
0:03:21 > 0:03:23whether it's in the same group of animals.
0:03:23 > 0:03:26Is it a rodent or behaviourally, is it more bear-like
0:03:26 > 0:03:29in the way it sort of excavates and hunts for its food the way
0:03:29 > 0:03:31a bear would, sort of go through with its paws
0:03:31 > 0:03:33and tear prey and food out?
0:03:33 > 0:03:36I think antrat. I mean it looks like... Is it a rodent, though?
0:03:36 > 0:03:38Do you know for sure it's a rodent? Cos there's a group of animals...
0:03:38 > 0:03:41No, I don't know for sure it's a rodent but I think if you're looking
0:03:41 > 0:03:44for rat-like characteristics, surely it has them.
0:03:44 > 0:03:46Antdog. Anyone fancy antdog?
0:03:46 > 0:03:49No, absolutely not. Antdog gone. Anthorse? No.
0:03:49 > 0:03:52What is it indigenous to? An aardvark... Is it Africa somewhere?
0:03:52 > 0:03:55I thought it was but I'm not sure. Are you?
0:03:55 > 0:03:58Say it's coming across from Zulu or some language.
0:03:58 > 0:04:00It could easily come across as anthorse.
0:04:00 > 0:04:04Do you know? I always think one should be simple about these things.
0:04:04 > 0:04:08One can talk oneself into a really complicated scenario.
0:04:08 > 0:04:10And you're ready good at doing that. LAUGHTER
0:04:10 > 0:04:11I'm going to antrat.
0:04:11 > 0:04:15Right, so, Ann, you say antrat. Russell?
0:04:15 > 0:04:17I would have gambled for antbear. OK.
0:04:17 > 0:04:21So antrat, antbear. I think... Gordon, we're going to help you out
0:04:21 > 0:04:24and we're going to go together for antrat.
0:04:24 > 0:04:26We think, but we're not sure.
0:04:26 > 0:04:29We're not at all sure. Right, no, no. We're so helpful.
0:04:29 > 0:04:31No, it's great.
0:04:31 > 0:04:34I'm looking at that name and it kind of looks Afrikaans, doesn't it?
0:04:34 > 0:04:37I like Russell's logic about the bear.
0:04:37 > 0:04:40But I'm going to go with antrat. I've got to go with antrat.
0:04:40 > 0:04:42You can't go against Ann Widdecombe. You can.
0:04:42 > 0:04:45You can if your name's Russell Kane, I mean... Yes.
0:04:45 > 0:04:48I thought Russell talked a lot of sense there.
0:04:48 > 0:04:49Can I just throw one last thing in?
0:04:49 > 0:04:53Yes. Rats are quite urban. Bears tend to live in the wild.
0:04:54 > 0:04:57And, aardvarks, you don't sort of see them running up a tower block,
0:04:57 > 0:04:58do you?
0:04:58 > 0:05:00Stealing cheese.
0:05:00 > 0:05:03So, obviously, Russell has given us a detailed case. I do, indeed.
0:05:03 > 0:05:05Ann, of course, a former government minister
0:05:05 > 0:05:08has actually just gone for... I don't know anything about rats.
0:05:08 > 0:05:10Forget the detail. Let's go for the big policy.
0:05:11 > 0:05:14I'm going for the cheese-stealing antrat.
0:05:14 > 0:05:17OK. You're going for the cheese-stealing antrat.
0:05:18 > 0:05:22For ?200. Is antrat the correct answer?
0:05:27 > 0:05:28Oh!
0:05:28 > 0:05:30It was antbear! Should have listened to you.
0:05:30 > 0:05:33You should have gone with Russell. He's the man. He's the man.
0:05:33 > 0:05:35Oh, you've changed.
0:05:35 > 0:05:37"You can't argue with Ann Widdecombe,"
0:05:37 > 0:05:38and now, "Russell's the man"!
0:05:38 > 0:05:41It's politics, man. It is politics. LAUGHTER
0:05:41 > 0:05:43Although they are actually known as antbears
0:05:43 > 0:05:45due to their diet of ants and termites,
0:05:45 > 0:05:49the name aardvark is actually from the Afrikaans language,
0:05:49 > 0:05:52which means earth pig... Oh.
0:05:52 > 0:05:54..which refers to their piglike face.
0:05:54 > 0:05:57It looks more like a rat than a bear. That's a rat. That's a rat.
0:05:57 > 0:05:59They've got it wrong, haven't they? I call that an antrat.
0:05:59 > 0:06:02I love the fact now that the panel, even though they've got it wrong,
0:06:02 > 0:06:06are actually saying, "It should be called what I thought it was."
0:06:06 > 0:06:08OK, plenty more catch up there, Gordon.
0:06:08 > 0:06:13Let's see if we can bag some in our second question. Here it comes.
0:06:32 > 0:06:34How are you on your films, Gordon? I'd go for Ben-Hur.
0:06:34 > 0:06:38Gut feeling, Ben-Hur. I really think Ben-Hur, yeah.
0:06:38 > 0:06:40You're going classic Ben-Hur. Got to go for this.
0:06:40 > 0:06:41Can't beat a bit of Charlton
0:06:41 > 0:06:45OK, first thought, Ben-Hur. Over to our panel.
0:06:45 > 0:06:46The debate starts now.
0:06:46 > 0:06:48What's your film knowledge like?
0:06:48 > 0:06:51Well, not good, though I do know those.
0:06:51 > 0:06:54But when Ben-Hur was made,
0:06:54 > 0:06:56if you had one very major standout film,
0:06:56 > 0:07:00it tended to get a lot of Oscars so... Yes.
0:07:00 > 0:07:05..my gut instinct, but it's no more than gut instinct, is with Ben-Hur
0:07:05 > 0:07:07and its magnificent chariot race, which I remember.
0:07:07 > 0:07:10I share your gut instinct, Ann, on that one.
0:07:10 > 0:07:13I remember Slumdog Millionaire was successful, though, wasn't it?
0:07:13 > 0:07:14I remember it did really well.
0:07:14 > 0:07:17It smashed the Oscars in two in the most surprising way.
0:07:18 > 0:07:23But I just have a distant memory of Ben-Hur winning about nine, I think.
0:07:23 > 0:07:24Yeah. Eight or nine.
0:07:24 > 0:07:26In the dusty recesses of my memory.
0:07:26 > 0:07:28What about The Godfather?
0:07:28 > 0:07:30Part two definitely did better than part one.
0:07:30 > 0:07:33It's one of the few sequels in... I saw part one, I didn't see part two.
0:07:33 > 0:07:35It's the only sequel in history that did better.
0:07:35 > 0:07:38I didn't want to see part two, having seen part one.
0:07:38 > 0:07:39Don't watch part three. Travesty.
0:07:39 > 0:07:41Part three's awful, it's like a soap opera.
0:07:41 > 0:07:43What about Shakespeare In Love?
0:07:43 > 0:07:45I remember seeing it. 1996.
0:07:45 > 0:07:48I was single at the time, so I enjoyed that one.
0:07:48 > 0:07:50Can you remember the Oscars, though, Russell?
0:07:50 > 0:07:52Did it do well? Yes, it's the Oscars.
0:07:52 > 0:07:54Joseph Fiennes and Gwyneth Paltrow. Yeah.
0:07:54 > 0:07:57I think it won about four or five. Are you going Hur?
0:07:57 > 0:07:59I'm definitely going Ben-Hur.
0:07:59 > 0:08:01Slumdog in second place but I'm going to go Hur as well.
0:08:01 > 0:08:05OK, so we've got a Hur, a Hur and a triple Hur for you.
0:08:05 > 0:08:08OK, so her, him and him have gone for Hur.
0:08:08 > 0:08:10What do we think, Gordon?
0:08:10 > 0:08:12"Loved Ben, Hated Hur," wasn't that the review? Yes.
0:08:12 > 0:08:15Yes, it was. I'm going Ben-Hur.
0:08:15 > 0:08:18You're going with our panel? You got to go classic. Yeah, absolutely.
0:08:18 > 0:08:21There is a quorum.
0:08:21 > 0:08:24OK, you went with the panel first time. It didn't work out.
0:08:24 > 0:08:28You've gone with them for a second time for ?200 to get up and running.
0:08:28 > 0:08:30Gordon, the correct answer is...
0:08:36 > 0:08:38Yes! It is Ben-Hur. There we go.
0:08:38 > 0:08:40Well done, sir.
0:08:41 > 0:08:42How many? How many? How many?
0:08:42 > 0:08:45Ben-Hur had...11.
0:08:45 > 0:08:47You had a big number in your head. Nine or ten, I thought it was.
0:08:47 > 0:08:50Ben-Hur won 11 Oscars.
0:08:50 > 0:08:52Slumdog Millionaire, eight. Eight?
0:08:52 > 0:08:55It did smash it, Russell. You were right.
0:08:55 > 0:08:58Shakespeare In Love, seven. Ah. Wow. It was all right.
0:08:58 > 0:09:01And The Godfather Part Two, six.
0:09:01 > 0:09:04OK, so we're up and running, which means you have ?200 in the bank.
0:09:04 > 0:09:05Well played.
0:09:07 > 0:09:09Let's see if we can get the prize pot up to 400.
0:09:09 > 0:09:11Here comes your next question.
0:09:31 > 0:09:34Ann is already putting a finger in an imaginary map,
0:09:34 > 0:09:35what do we think, Gordon?
0:09:35 > 0:09:39It can't be England. There's a little island in the way.
0:09:39 > 0:09:43I'm going France. OK, you're going France.
0:09:43 > 0:09:45Let's see if the panel can shed any light on this.
0:09:45 > 0:09:48The debate starts now. Let me take you inside this panel, OK?
0:09:48 > 0:09:50Russell had a little fist pump as soon as the question came up.
0:09:50 > 0:09:52But now I'm doubting the fist pump.
0:09:52 > 0:09:54OK, Ann got a little atlas out.
0:09:54 > 0:09:57Let's start with Ann's atlas, what's the atlas telling you?
0:09:57 > 0:10:00Well, the first thing is, they travelled due east.
0:10:00 > 0:10:02I would have said, I would have done the unpopular one,
0:10:02 > 0:10:04I would have said England.
0:10:04 > 0:10:06You could come east and just hit the tip of Cornwall
0:10:06 > 0:10:08without touching anything else first. Yeah. Yeah.
0:10:08 > 0:10:10Was that when you celebrated? No.
0:10:10 > 0:10:12What were you thinking when you celebrated?
0:10:12 > 0:10:13So, I was heavily into Dungeons Dragons
0:10:13 > 0:10:15and didn't have a girlfriend for a long time.
0:10:15 > 0:10:17LAUGHTER
0:10:17 > 0:10:20But I was really into flags and globes to a worryingly,
0:10:20 > 0:10:23er, older age, so about 17 or 18.
0:10:23 > 0:10:28Now, I cannot be 100% certain, but I have an 80% to 90% memory
0:10:28 > 0:10:31of watching a movie once when they are sweltering in New York,
0:10:31 > 0:10:33thinking, "Why don't they have the same weather as us?
0:10:33 > 0:10:34"Cos it's even."
0:10:34 > 0:10:38And I went to my globe and got a bit of string and traced it.
0:10:38 > 0:10:41ANN: Oh, you poor, sad thing. Thank you, thank you.
0:10:41 > 0:10:42You've actually done Ann's line.
0:10:42 > 0:10:44I was a level five wizard at Dungeons and Dragons,
0:10:44 > 0:10:46so don't judge me too harshly.
0:10:46 > 0:10:52I am almost sure - almost - it surprised me that it was Portugal.
0:10:52 > 0:10:55Portugal?! A Dungeons and Dragons 80% memory is a good one.
0:10:55 > 0:10:58How sort of wiling are you to stick your neck out on it?
0:11:02 > 0:11:05Well, it's got to be England or Portugal.
0:11:05 > 0:11:07I cannot see it missing us and hitting France. OK.
0:11:07 > 0:11:11I'm going to stick with England. Ann says England. I'm sure it's...
0:11:11 > 0:11:12Dungeons Dragons, Portugal.
0:11:12 > 0:11:15..just below Lisbon, I'm going to go that specific.
0:11:15 > 0:11:18Just south of Lisbon. As a unit, we're going to go for Portugal.
0:11:20 > 0:11:21So, Gordon, Russell...
0:11:21 > 0:11:23I'm just hoping a flags round doesn't come up
0:11:23 > 0:11:26because my true nerd will be exposed.
0:11:26 > 0:11:28So Russell actually took out a piece of string
0:11:28 > 0:11:30and he thinks that it's Portugal.
0:11:30 > 0:11:33You see, that is why I'm saying France, because it's
0:11:33 > 0:11:34a nice, large coastline there.
0:11:34 > 0:11:38So it could very easily be that bit lower, and do you know what?
0:11:38 > 0:11:40I'm going to go for Portugal.
0:11:40 > 0:11:43I'm changing my mind, I'm going for this. Come on, Gordon!
0:11:43 > 0:11:47I'm in trouble here. OK, the panel has changed your mind...
0:11:47 > 0:11:48I can't watch this.
0:11:48 > 0:11:50No pressure, Russell. I can't watch this.
0:11:50 > 0:11:52Can we hug it out if I'm wrong?
0:11:52 > 0:11:54For ?200, is it Portugal?
0:12:00 > 0:12:02Come on! ANN: It's killing us.
0:12:02 > 0:12:04YES! CHEERING
0:12:06 > 0:12:08Well done. That's great, well done.
0:12:08 > 0:12:09Thank you. I might not have had a girlfriend,
0:12:09 > 0:12:12but I know where Portugal is. LAUGHTER
0:12:12 > 0:12:14Russell is three for three. He's there.
0:12:14 > 0:12:19New York City and Portugal both lie on the same parallel,
0:12:19 > 0:12:21line of latitude, just north of Lisbon.
0:12:21 > 0:12:24Thankfully, Ann, France didn't get a look in there.
0:12:24 > 0:12:25No, I'm very glad about that.
0:12:25 > 0:12:26LAUGHTER
0:12:28 > 0:12:32OK, well done, Gordon, that's another ?200 in the prize pot,
0:12:32 > 0:12:34bringing you up to ?400.
0:12:37 > 0:12:38Good luck.
0:12:39 > 0:12:42So, Gordon, this is the point where we first ask,
0:12:42 > 0:12:45how do we think the panel's doing today?
0:12:45 > 0:12:48Russell's on fire, he's all over it, isn't he? He is.
0:12:48 > 0:12:50Ann's moment is yet to come, but...
0:12:50 > 0:12:52That's harsh. Ann, that's out of order.
0:12:52 > 0:12:55- No, it's not... - I gave you Ben-Hur straight off!
0:12:55 > 0:12:56I thank you for that.
0:12:58 > 0:13:01You know, you can go off people, you be careful.
0:13:01 > 0:13:04Remarkable backtrack there from Gordon, wasn't it?
0:13:04 > 0:13:08So, let's see how they cope with pictures. It's time for Round Two.
0:13:11 > 0:13:13Gordon, Round Two is our picture round,
0:13:13 > 0:13:16all you have to do is place three pictures in the correct order.
0:13:16 > 0:13:19There are three questions in this round,
0:13:19 > 0:13:22each of them is worth ?300, so we can really get that cash up.
0:13:22 > 0:13:25Here it comes, first question in Round Two.
0:13:42 > 0:13:43What's your first thought?
0:13:43 > 0:13:45If I was going to put them in an order, I'd probably go
0:13:45 > 0:13:48White House, Windsor Castle and Palace of Versailles.
0:13:48 > 0:13:50This is where Ann is going to be totally on fire,
0:13:50 > 0:13:52I am sure she's hung out
0:13:52 > 0:13:54with Obama and all that lot.
0:13:54 > 0:13:57He's trying to win you over now, Ann. He's too late.
0:13:57 > 0:13:58Too late.
0:13:58 > 0:14:02So this is the moment, this is Ann's moment about to come?
0:14:02 > 0:14:04Absolutely.
0:14:04 > 0:14:08I think it is White House, Windsor Castle, Palace of Versailles.
0:14:08 > 0:14:11OK, let's see if Ann or the rest of the panel
0:14:11 > 0:14:14can shed some light on this one. Your debate starts now. OK.
0:14:14 > 0:14:16Ann, have you met Barack?
0:14:16 > 0:14:19I've been to all three.
0:14:19 > 0:14:21I agree entirely that the White House is the smallest.
0:14:21 > 0:14:23I'm not sure I agree with you on it. Why not?
0:14:23 > 0:14:26Because Windsor Castle is ginormous in the size of
0:14:26 > 0:14:28the place itself, the residence, the biggest castle in the world,
0:14:28 > 0:14:31but the White House, I think, has got the bigger grounds.
0:14:31 > 0:14:33Hang on, have you walked the grounds in Windsor Castle?
0:14:33 > 0:14:35Now, I did, on Christmas Day.
0:14:35 > 0:14:38Believe it or not. I actually walked miles.
0:14:38 > 0:14:42Was it circular though? No, it was not circular. Stop being so rude.
0:14:42 > 0:14:44I may be circular, but the walk wasn't.
0:14:44 > 0:14:46RUSSELL LAUGHS
0:14:46 > 0:14:50So, I actually think Windsor Castle's grounds
0:14:50 > 0:14:51are much bigger than anybody thinks.
0:14:51 > 0:14:55OK, I've been to the White House as well. Yeah.
0:14:55 > 0:14:58And what did surprise me, obviously the grandeur and everything,
0:14:58 > 0:15:02but there was a lot of grass around it, and... A lot of grass?
0:15:02 > 0:15:06Windsor Castle has got park on park on park...
0:15:06 > 0:15:08Yeah, but that's not...
0:15:08 > 0:15:11Grounds, it doesn't say "gardens", it says grounds.
0:15:11 > 0:15:13That's all the grounds.
0:15:13 > 0:15:17OK, Windsor Castle, I'm pretty sure I saw Helen Mirren,
0:15:17 > 0:15:21playing the Queen, drive across it, ride across it on a horse.
0:15:21 > 0:15:23If you need a Range Rover to traverse it,
0:15:23 > 0:15:25it has got to be the biggest, easily.
0:15:25 > 0:15:29You need vehicles and transposition to move across it. It's huge.
0:15:29 > 0:15:32It's huge. Have you seen Olympus Has Fallen?
0:15:32 > 0:15:35Think of the American mentality. It's whopper!
0:15:35 > 0:15:36White House is gigantic.
0:15:36 > 0:15:40And Versailles is formal gardens, it is not large, rambling parks.
0:15:40 > 0:15:42Of the White House, what are you saying, Dan?
0:15:42 > 0:15:44I think it's quite a modest lawn and walking area,
0:15:44 > 0:15:46and all of the show-off goes into the structure.
0:15:46 > 0:15:49The British way would be to have rolling countryside and everything,
0:15:49 > 0:15:51Windsor, the Palace of Versailles
0:15:51 > 0:15:53I'd just stick in the middle, because I think the White House
0:15:53 > 0:15:56is so small and Windsor... I'm entirely with you.
0:15:56 > 0:15:58Beginning with the smallest - White House, Versailles, Windsor.
0:15:58 > 0:16:01Gordon. I'm going to have to address you individually on this.
0:16:01 > 0:16:03I know that there is some serious weight,
0:16:03 > 0:16:06Russell's had a brilliant game so far, but I am pretty certain,
0:16:06 > 0:16:10I'd go 90%, that Windsor Castle is smaller than the White House.
0:16:10 > 0:16:12You're the captain, order them, smallest to largest.
0:16:12 > 0:16:14I'm going to go...
0:16:14 > 0:16:16Even though it's going to really annoy Ann,
0:16:16 > 0:16:18I'm going to go Windsor Castle smallest... What?!
0:16:18 > 0:16:20..followed by the White House,
0:16:20 > 0:16:21followed by the Palace of Versailles.
0:16:21 > 0:16:23No, no. Windsor, White House...
0:16:23 > 0:16:26Don't listen to a word of it. ..the French.
0:16:26 > 0:16:28I am sorry, I have to disagree with my captain strongly.
0:16:28 > 0:16:30I disagree hugely. Just based on,
0:16:30 > 0:16:34I'm pretty sure that that famous scene with Helen Mirren...
0:16:34 > 0:16:36Oh, never mind Helen Mirren, I walked the grounds on Christmas Day,
0:16:36 > 0:16:38they're huge! LAUGHTER
0:16:38 > 0:16:41We have got empirical versus data-based evidence here.
0:16:42 > 0:16:45I think we actually have unity in the panel(!)
0:16:46 > 0:16:50So, Ann has walked the grounds of Windsor Castle,
0:16:50 > 0:16:53however, Dan has ridden roughshod over the panel
0:16:53 > 0:16:55and decided that Windsor Castle is the smallest,
0:16:55 > 0:16:57followed by the White House.
0:16:57 > 0:16:59Helicopters, you know, look at the size of that.
0:16:59 > 0:17:01That's the front lawn. What about round the back and...?
0:17:01 > 0:17:03A helicopter can land at a posh hotel.
0:17:03 > 0:17:06Helicopter lands on a helipad, which can actually be quite small.
0:17:06 > 0:17:08Could land one in here. Bring one in!
0:17:08 > 0:17:09That's just on like your front garden.
0:17:09 > 0:17:11Children, please. Sorry.
0:17:11 > 0:17:13Our panel has gone for
0:17:13 > 0:17:16Windsor Castle, White House, Palace of Versailles.
0:17:16 > 0:17:18Anything in there to make you change your mind?
0:17:18 > 0:17:19I'm going to change slightly.
0:17:19 > 0:17:21I'm going to go White House,
0:17:21 > 0:17:24Palace of Versailles and Windsor.
0:17:26 > 0:17:28OK, Gordon, you've gone against the panel.
0:17:28 > 0:17:30You've gone with White House,
0:17:30 > 0:17:32Palace of Versailles and Windsor Castle.
0:17:32 > 0:17:35For ?300, let's see if you're right.
0:17:42 > 0:17:45AUDIENCE: Aww. It's the wrong order.
0:17:45 > 0:17:48Wow. Dan, what was your order again?
0:17:48 > 0:17:50Windsor Castle smallest,
0:17:50 > 0:17:53followed by the White House and then the Palace of Versailles.
0:17:53 > 0:17:55Let's see if you're right, Dan.
0:17:57 > 0:18:01You WERE right, Windsor Castle is the smallest...
0:18:01 > 0:18:03Well, then they're excluding the parks.
0:18:03 > 0:18:06..then the White House, then the Palace of Versailles.
0:18:06 > 0:18:08Eat that, Widdecombe.
0:18:08 > 0:18:11How can they exclude the park? I included the park.
0:18:11 > 0:18:13Windsor Castle has 13 acres of ground.
0:18:13 > 0:18:17The White House has 18 acres of ground.
0:18:17 > 0:18:19It's huge round the back, yeah.
0:18:19 > 0:18:23The Palace of Versailles has a whopping 1,976 acres.
0:18:23 > 0:18:25Wouldn't get round that on Christmas Day, would you?
0:18:25 > 0:18:27LAUGHTER Oh, man.
0:18:27 > 0:18:31The Palace of Versailles was built by Louis XIII as a hunting lodge
0:18:31 > 0:18:35and then transformed into an extravagant palace by Louis XIV.
0:18:35 > 0:18:37I'm afraid you got that question wrong, Gordon.
0:18:37 > 0:18:40Still plenty of money to play for, and you're still on ?400.
0:18:45 > 0:18:46OK, Gordon, let's have a little look
0:18:46 > 0:18:48at question two in our picture round.
0:19:08 > 0:19:10Now, that look on your face... Mm.
0:19:10 > 0:19:13..suggests you're not sure on this one.
0:19:13 > 0:19:16I think Lewis is going to be top.
0:19:17 > 0:19:20Which way round would we go for Gareth or Rory?
0:19:20 > 0:19:22I think we might have a chap
0:19:22 > 0:19:24who knows something about sport on the panel,
0:19:24 > 0:19:26so I'm going to have a listen, I think.
0:19:26 > 0:19:27So over to you, Ann.
0:19:27 > 0:19:28LAUGHTER
0:19:29 > 0:19:32You'll be lucky. What we actually need here,
0:19:32 > 0:19:35we need someone on our panel who actually knows sport
0:19:35 > 0:19:38and who doesn't care what the other members of the panel think.
0:19:38 > 0:19:40LAUGHTER Your debate starts now.
0:19:40 > 0:19:44Um, I think I can be pretty definitive on this one.
0:19:44 > 0:19:46Can you be definitive over who they are first?
0:19:46 > 0:19:47Cos I don't actually know.
0:19:47 > 0:19:50Who do you know? Lewis Hamilton I know, he's a race car driver.
0:19:50 > 0:19:52He's a very rich man. He's that chap in fast cars.
0:19:52 > 0:19:55Gareth Bale is the guy who went from Spurs to Real Madrid
0:19:55 > 0:19:57for a vast amount of money. Oh, he must play football then.
0:19:57 > 0:20:00Oh, hockey, yeah, I love it(!) And Rory McIlroy is one of
0:20:00 > 0:20:02the best golfers in the world, from Northern Ireland.
0:20:02 > 0:20:06Right. I think... So BAIL's not a cricketer, then?
0:20:06 > 0:20:09LAUGHING: No, he's not a cricketer, stop ribbing me.
0:20:09 > 0:20:12I think Wayne Rooney is the richest, out of all the sports people...
0:20:12 > 0:20:13But he's not there.
0:20:13 > 0:20:16I know he's not there, but I think Rory McIlroy is in the top three,
0:20:16 > 0:20:19because not only has he won a few majors,
0:20:19 > 0:20:23the deals that he has with his various sponsors are enormous,
0:20:23 > 0:20:25so I'd put Rory McIlroy above Lewis Hamilton,
0:20:25 > 0:20:26and I'd actually put...
0:20:26 > 0:20:28I think Gareth Bale's deal with his boot company,
0:20:28 > 0:20:30with his clothing range...
0:20:30 > 0:20:33Rory McIlroy's in the top three, definitely.
0:20:33 > 0:20:35Top three of what? We've only got three people to choose from.
0:20:35 > 0:20:37Of that rich list.
0:20:37 > 0:20:38He's in the top three. Sorry.
0:20:38 > 0:20:41There's only three there, of course he's in the top three.
0:20:41 > 0:20:44Out of everybody, out of everybody. What, in the world, ever?
0:20:44 > 0:20:47Of the rich list. What, Bill Gates and everyone?
0:20:47 > 0:20:49No, rich list for British sportspeople. Sorry.
0:20:49 > 0:20:52He's in the top three. OK. Just based on idiot's instinct,
0:20:52 > 0:20:54I would have thought the Formula 1 guy makes the most money.
0:20:54 > 0:20:56And the golfer second, the footballer last,
0:20:56 > 0:20:59that's what I would have gone with. There you're looking at the sport,
0:20:59 > 0:21:01which is a reasonable way of doing it,
0:21:01 > 0:21:03but you are excluding the sort of things that you have
0:21:03 > 0:21:06brought into it, which is that they have all these sidelines.
0:21:06 > 0:21:08Well, Rory McIlroy was bought out of his last club deal,
0:21:08 > 0:21:11and they paid him just an astronomical amount of money.
0:21:11 > 0:21:14I think he's probably worth about 50, 60 million quid. You happy?
0:21:14 > 0:21:17I can give thoughts and things to maybe give Gordon stuff
0:21:17 > 0:21:23to think about, but... I can't even give thoughts. I have no clue.
0:21:23 > 0:21:25I've only met one of them, I've met Lewis Hamilton,
0:21:25 > 0:21:28we were in the private area of a bar and he had all these gold chains on
0:21:28 > 0:21:30and these shots going,
0:21:30 > 0:21:32and he thought I was Nick Grimshaw, so I just left.
0:21:32 > 0:21:34LAUGHTER
0:21:34 > 0:21:36It was really awkward. Wonderfully awkward.
0:21:36 > 0:21:39And for that reason alone, we'll put him at the bottom of our list.
0:21:39 > 0:21:41So, Gordon, what we're going with is -
0:21:41 > 0:21:45least wealthy being Lewis Hamilton, Gareth Bale in front of him,
0:21:45 > 0:21:46and right at the top, Rory McIlroy.
0:21:46 > 0:21:49And you sound as if you do know what you're talking about.
0:21:49 > 0:21:52Well, I hope so, if I don't, then I might have to retire.
0:21:52 > 0:21:53So, that's what our panel think.
0:21:53 > 0:21:56Now, Gordon, you initially thought that Lewis Hamilton
0:21:56 > 0:21:57would have been way out in front.
0:21:57 > 0:21:59Dan, of course, Mr BBC Sport,
0:21:59 > 0:22:01believes that Lewis Hamilton is at the bottom.
0:22:01 > 0:22:05We have Russell, who says he knows nothing about sport, but he thinks,
0:22:05 > 0:22:09just based on logic, that Lewis Hamilton has to be the most wealthy.
0:22:09 > 0:22:13Then the golfer? Yeah. And then the footballer at the bottom? Yeah.
0:22:14 > 0:22:17OK. I'm going to go with Dan on this one, I think.
0:22:17 > 0:22:19We'll go for this one.
0:22:19 > 0:22:24I'm going to stick with the panel on this one. Lewis, Gareth and Rory.
0:22:24 > 0:22:25In that order.
0:22:25 > 0:22:30OK, so Dan says the career is on the line, you want me to lock it in.
0:22:30 > 0:22:33And he promised to retire, he specifically promised to retire.
0:22:33 > 0:22:34I think he did, Russell,
0:22:34 > 0:22:37I think what he said was that if he gets this wrong...
0:22:37 > 0:22:39I think I said I MIGHT have to retire.
0:22:40 > 0:22:45OK, so you have gone with the panel and Dan's sport knowledge,
0:22:45 > 0:22:49you say Lewis Hamilton is the least wealthy, then Gareth Bale,
0:22:49 > 0:22:52with the richest being Rory McIlroy.
0:22:52 > 0:22:55For ?300, to your rich list...
0:22:55 > 0:22:56is it the correct order?
0:22:59 > 0:23:01Tell me when I can look.
0:23:03 > 0:23:05You were very confident.
0:23:05 > 0:23:07It's the wrong order. No way!
0:23:07 > 0:23:08And we can now announce
0:23:08 > 0:23:11that this is Dan Walker's last show on the BBC, everybody.
0:23:11 > 0:23:14Thank you, Dan, and goodnight!
0:23:14 > 0:23:15Let's see the right order.
0:23:15 > 0:23:16I hope I'm not right,
0:23:16 > 0:23:19cos I've never heard of the two of them! Oh!
0:23:19 > 0:23:21The right order was the footballer,
0:23:21 > 0:23:23then the golfer... That's what I said!
0:23:23 > 0:23:26..then the Formula 1 driver. That's what I said!
0:23:26 > 0:23:30Gareth Bale, according to the Sunday Times Rich List, worth ?34 million.
0:23:30 > 0:23:32Rory McIlroy, 56 million.
0:23:32 > 0:23:36Lewis Hamilton, 106 million.
0:23:36 > 0:23:38And I've hung out with him.
0:23:38 > 0:23:40He didn't know who I was, but I've hung out with him.
0:23:40 > 0:23:41Wow, OK.
0:23:41 > 0:23:43I would have thought Lewis Hamilton,
0:23:43 > 0:23:46but only, solely because he's the one I've heard of.
0:23:47 > 0:23:50If you actually draw a piece of string between Rory McIlroy
0:23:50 > 0:23:51and Lewis Hamilton...
0:23:51 > 0:23:53It's a long bit of string, 150 million.
0:23:53 > 0:23:56Although Gareth Bale earns 300 grand a week at Real Madrid,
0:23:56 > 0:23:58Lewis is the richest British sportsman,
0:23:58 > 0:24:02which is why he is able to get away with dressing like this.
0:24:02 > 0:24:04LAUGHTER
0:24:04 > 0:24:05There he is.
0:24:05 > 0:24:08And the look on Ann's face as she checks that out is priceless.
0:24:09 > 0:24:14Unfortunately, you went with the panel, you got that one wrong,
0:24:14 > 0:24:18it means you still have ?400 in your prize pot, Gordon.
0:24:18 > 0:24:21OK, question three, let's hope it's either
0:24:21 > 0:24:24a Dungeons Dragons question or a politics question,
0:24:24 > 0:24:26which Dan can, of course, answer. LAUGHTER
0:24:26 > 0:24:27Here it comes.
0:24:43 > 0:24:46I think Gordon Ramsay's about the same sort of age as me.
0:24:46 > 0:24:48I think Nigella's a little bit younger.
0:24:48 > 0:24:50And what age are you? I'm 56.
0:24:50 > 0:24:53Starting with the youngest, I'd say Nigella,
0:24:53 > 0:24:55then Gordon Ramsay, then Marco Pierre White.
0:24:55 > 0:24:56That's my feelings.
0:24:56 > 0:24:58OK, that's your first thoughts.
0:24:58 > 0:24:59Over to you, panel.
0:24:59 > 0:25:01Your debate starts now.
0:25:01 > 0:25:05Well, my gut instinct is that Nigella is the youngest.
0:25:05 > 0:25:07Right, well, it is a food round,
0:25:07 > 0:25:10so the gut is a good thing to guess on. Yes, absolutely right.
0:25:10 > 0:25:12Gordon Ramsay has had one of the longest...
0:25:12 > 0:25:17But Marco Pierre White's had a more sort of a chef, an artisanal chef...
0:25:17 > 0:25:18Become famous through the cheffing
0:25:18 > 0:25:20more as the celebrity into the cookery.
0:25:20 > 0:25:24Marco Pierre White is French as well, so they do... Age well.
0:25:24 > 0:25:28Yeah, you can leave them out at room temperature and they're fine.
0:25:28 > 0:25:29LAUGHTER
0:25:29 > 0:25:31The problem we've got here is,
0:25:31 > 0:25:34Nigella and Gordon are around the same age. I'll tell you that now.
0:25:34 > 0:25:39Nigella looks amazing, Gordon Ramsay looks older than his age.
0:25:39 > 0:25:41Yeah. How do you know?
0:25:41 > 0:25:43Just because I've read interviews with him
0:25:43 > 0:25:46and people are a bit unkind online and stuff like that.
0:25:46 > 0:25:50If you told me that Gordon Ramsay and Nigella Lawson were both 49,
0:25:50 > 0:25:52I wouldn't be shocked.
0:25:52 > 0:25:56Right... Does anybody have any actual knowledge? No. No.
0:25:56 > 0:26:01Nigella could just be a well maintained 53, 54-year-old, easily.
0:26:01 > 0:26:04Sorry to mess with your head. You're not helping at all.
0:26:04 > 0:26:06No, but I like the way you argued it out,
0:26:06 > 0:26:10rather than throwing a wild guess out there. You think...?
0:26:10 > 0:26:12Marco Pierre White is the oldest.
0:26:12 > 0:26:15Let's put him at that end, and in terms of these two...
0:26:15 > 0:26:18Yeah, let's... Switch them around? Well, I don't know.
0:26:18 > 0:26:21Do you think Nigella's in her 40s or her 50s?
0:26:21 > 0:26:24Let's keep it that broad. Oh, Nigella, early 50s.
0:26:24 > 0:26:27Gordon Ramsay. Late 40s, early 50s? Probably.
0:26:27 > 0:26:29Which one?
0:26:29 > 0:26:31So you are not saying you're certain Gordon is in his 50s,
0:26:31 > 0:26:34see what I mean? You went 50s straight away
0:26:34 > 0:26:36with Nigella, but with Gordon, it could be late 40s.
0:26:36 > 0:26:39Shall we go...? Shall we leave it...? I'm really worried now.
0:26:39 > 0:26:42Right, we don't know. Yeah, let's leave it like that.
0:26:42 > 0:26:44OK, we're going to leave it like this.
0:26:44 > 0:26:46Gordon, I hope this helps you somehow,
0:26:46 > 0:26:49we're going to go with the youngest being Gordon Ramsay,
0:26:49 > 0:26:51er...then Nigella Lawson,
0:26:51 > 0:26:55and the oldest of our celebrity chefs, Marco Pierre White.
0:26:56 > 0:26:58We're unanimous for once.
0:26:58 > 0:27:01OK, the panel has gone for Gordon Ramsay, Nigella Lawson,
0:27:01 > 0:27:03Marco Pierre White.
0:27:03 > 0:27:05There seemed to be a little bit of sense talked there.
0:27:05 > 0:27:08Just so you know, however, Marco Pierre White is actually from Leeds.
0:27:08 > 0:27:10Is he? Yes.
0:27:10 > 0:27:12Dad's English and his mum is from Italy.
0:27:12 > 0:27:14Right, that's the end of that, then.
0:27:14 > 0:27:16I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out that way,
0:27:16 > 0:27:18cos it's a difficult one to say.
0:27:18 > 0:27:20I don't think there's a great deal between Gordon Ramsay
0:27:20 > 0:27:22and Nigella Lawson.
0:27:22 > 0:27:26However, I did say Nigella first then Gordon,
0:27:26 > 0:27:29and I have changed and gone with the panel a couple of times.
0:27:29 > 0:27:30I'm going on this one,
0:27:30 > 0:27:35I'm going to go Nigella, Gordon Ramsay, Marco Pierre White.
0:27:35 > 0:27:37And I've only got myself to blame.
0:27:37 > 0:27:40OK. Burnt by the panel on the last question,
0:27:40 > 0:27:45the trust is now gone, you're going on your own, you're going for?
0:27:45 > 0:27:47Nigella, Gordon and then Marco.
0:27:49 > 0:27:54Nigella the youngest, Gordon in the middle, then Marco Pierre White.
0:27:54 > 0:27:57Is it the correct order, for ?300?
0:28:04 > 0:28:06GASPS AND LAUGHTER
0:28:06 > 0:28:08It's the wrong order, Gordon.
0:28:08 > 0:28:11Marco will turn out to be 23 or something.
0:28:11 > 0:28:13Let's see what the correct order is.
0:28:13 > 0:28:15Ramsay, look.
0:28:15 > 0:28:16AUDIENCE GASPS
0:28:16 > 0:28:18No! Gordon Ramsay, Marco Pierre White,
0:28:18 > 0:28:22and Nigella Lawson is the oldest. Wow. Ramsay is the youngest.
0:28:22 > 0:28:24We were all wrong. The panel were wrong as well.
0:28:24 > 0:28:25Gordon Ramsay was born in 1966,
0:28:25 > 0:28:29Marco Pierre White was born in '61, Nigella...
0:28:29 > 0:28:31looking good for born in 1960.
0:28:31 > 0:28:35OK, Gordon, unfortunately, you didn't manage to bank anything
0:28:35 > 0:28:38in that round, so your prize pot is still ?400.
0:28:40 > 0:28:41Don't worry, though -
0:28:41 > 0:28:44there's still 1,500 quid up for grabs in Round Three.
0:28:46 > 0:28:51OK, how are we feeling about our panel now?
0:28:51 > 0:28:54If you had to choose one to help you in the final debate,
0:28:54 > 0:28:55who would it be?
0:28:55 > 0:28:56Right now, I think I'd go for Russell,
0:28:56 > 0:28:59there seems to be a lot of logic going on there.
0:28:59 > 0:29:00Very wise choice. Very good choice.
0:29:00 > 0:29:03OK, in this round, Gordon, you're going to face questions
0:29:03 > 0:29:05that contain three statements about a person,
0:29:05 > 0:29:09a place or a thing, but only one of those statements is true.
0:29:09 > 0:29:11You must decide which one.
0:29:11 > 0:29:15Three questions in this round, and because it's our final round
0:29:15 > 0:29:17each question is worth ?500,
0:29:17 > 0:29:19so plenty of opportunity to get this cash up.
0:29:19 > 0:29:22OK, Gordon, here's your first question.
0:29:44 > 0:29:49Right, OK. I think I know this.
0:29:49 > 0:29:52I do remember her being in National Velvet.
0:29:52 > 0:29:56And I do think that was her first film.
0:29:56 > 0:29:57So that's one that I'll go for,
0:29:57 > 0:29:59I think that B is the true answer.
0:30:00 > 0:30:03OK, panel, do you agree with Gordon? Your debate starts now.
0:30:03 > 0:30:06Yes, I absolutely agree with Gordon. Throw it out there, Ann.
0:30:06 > 0:30:08No, I really do.
0:30:08 > 0:30:10I mean, I hardly ever know the answers to film questions.
0:30:10 > 0:30:11This one I do know.
0:30:11 > 0:30:13It was one about the Grand National.
0:30:13 > 0:30:17If it's a trick question and it's around debut,
0:30:17 > 0:30:19was she in ANYTHING before National Velvet?
0:30:19 > 0:30:21She was a child star, wasn't she?
0:30:21 > 0:30:23Yeah, but she was in National Velvet.
0:30:23 > 0:30:25If she was a child star, it's not her film debut, is it?
0:30:25 > 0:30:28No... She wasn't a child in National Velvet, was she?
0:30:28 > 0:30:29Yes, she was a child in National Velvet.
0:30:29 > 0:30:31She wasn't, like, a kid in National Velvet.
0:30:31 > 0:30:32No, she wasn't three or four, but...
0:30:32 > 0:30:35This isn't Shirley Temple, this is Elizabeth Taylor.
0:30:35 > 0:30:37How old was she, approximately, a teenager?
0:30:37 > 0:30:39Er... She was about 11. OK.
0:30:39 > 0:30:40The Andy Warhol thing,
0:30:40 > 0:30:42he's definitely done some Elizabeth Taylor
0:30:42 > 0:30:45because she was so famous, wasn't she, in the '60s
0:30:45 > 0:30:47when Andy Warhol was doing his business? Yeah.
0:30:47 > 0:30:50I mean...the answer is, "I don't know."
0:30:50 > 0:30:52So pretty sure the Madonna thing's a no-no, yeah?
0:30:52 > 0:30:54So it's a choice between those two.
0:30:54 > 0:30:55I'm sure I'd remember it.
0:30:55 > 0:30:59Look how many syllables are in it and how hard it would be to rhyme.
0:30:59 > 0:31:01Hard to scan it, isn't it? Yes.
0:31:01 > 0:31:04Unless she called her Tayles. "Elizabeth Tayles."
0:31:04 > 0:31:07It's definitely not in the Madonna song.
0:31:07 > 0:31:09You're sort of rock-solid certain, are you?
0:31:09 > 0:31:13Well, unless the doubt is in the debut, so to speak.
0:31:13 > 0:31:15But, no, I'm going with National Velvet.
0:31:15 > 0:31:17I'll go with National Velvet.
0:31:17 > 0:31:21OK, in summary, Ann is going for National Velvet,
0:31:21 > 0:31:24Russell is going for National Velvet.
0:31:24 > 0:31:26I've got a feeling it's Andy Warhol,
0:31:26 > 0:31:29but I'm so scarred by the Lewis Hamilton thing,
0:31:29 > 0:31:30we're going with National Velvet.
0:31:30 > 0:31:32Safety in numbers.
0:31:32 > 0:31:34OK, Dan has lost complete confidence in himself.
0:31:34 > 0:31:38He is swayed by Russell and Ann. They are going for National Velvet.
0:31:38 > 0:31:40Er, has this helped?
0:31:41 > 0:31:44It has helped, but Dan throwing the curveball in there, really,
0:31:44 > 0:31:45with the Andy Warhol.
0:31:45 > 0:31:47I'm trying to think of Andy Warhol art
0:31:47 > 0:31:51and I don't really remember seeing...
0:31:51 > 0:31:53anything much with Elizabeth Taylor in it.
0:31:55 > 0:31:58He may have redeemed himself, but I'm still going for National Velvet.
0:31:58 > 0:31:59I've got to go for National Velvet.
0:31:59 > 0:32:02It was my first feeling and that's what I'm sticking with.
0:32:02 > 0:32:06OK, Gordon is going with the panel - National Velvet.
0:32:06 > 0:32:09Can we get the cash up for ?500?
0:32:10 > 0:32:13Is National Velvet the correct statement?
0:32:20 > 0:32:22Dan was right!
0:32:22 > 0:32:26She featured in more than one Andy Warhol work of art.
0:32:26 > 0:32:27Unbelievable!
0:32:27 > 0:32:30Dan knows more about art than football.
0:32:30 > 0:32:34Warhol apparently painted a series of 13 paintings of Elizabeth Taylor.
0:32:34 > 0:32:37She was huge, wasn't she? 13 in 1963.
0:32:37 > 0:32:41She made her film debut in One Born Every Minute.
0:32:41 > 0:32:44No. Back in 1942, Ann.
0:32:44 > 0:32:49I'm sorry, Gordon... I believed it. I was convinced. I was convinced.
0:32:49 > 0:32:51Gordon, I've lost my confidence.
0:32:51 > 0:32:53No, you've got your confidence back.
0:32:53 > 0:32:56You're there. The BBC art critic...
0:32:56 > 0:32:58LAUGHTER
0:32:58 > 0:33:00He needs a new job. Just call me Will Gompertz.
0:33:00 > 0:33:03We could do a Dungeons Dragons show together.
0:33:03 > 0:33:07OK, let's see if we can get this back on track together, team.
0:33:07 > 0:33:09Here we go.
0:33:09 > 0:33:11For ?500, here's your next question...
0:33:33 > 0:33:35Which one of those stands out for you, Gordon?
0:33:35 > 0:33:38I would go for the heart is located above the lungs.
0:33:38 > 0:33:41OK, let's see what our panel makes of this. Your debate starts now.
0:33:41 > 0:33:45Right, so, my heart's beating quite fast, I'm genuinely nervous.
0:33:45 > 0:33:47That's me touching my beating heart.
0:33:47 > 0:33:49Now, I have a faint memory of me breathing into a device
0:33:49 > 0:33:51to measure my lung capacity.
0:33:51 > 0:33:53I think it might be called a spirometer.
0:33:53 > 0:33:55That, added to the fact that it's called expiration when you
0:33:55 > 0:33:58breathe out, it seems to have a sort of linguistic connection
0:33:58 > 0:34:00to that, so I would go spirometer.
0:34:00 > 0:34:03For different reasons, I'm drawn to the middle one as well,
0:34:03 > 0:34:06because my mum was a first aid teacher and I remember
0:34:06 > 0:34:09having to sit through various first aid classes.
0:34:09 > 0:34:10One of the things she told us was that the lungs
0:34:10 > 0:34:13are a different size and different shape.
0:34:13 > 0:34:16I share your view. I'm trying desperately now to remember
0:34:16 > 0:34:18models of the human anatomy.
0:34:18 > 0:34:20But my heart is beating here, Ann. I promise you...
0:34:20 > 0:34:21Yeah, I believe you.
0:34:21 > 0:34:24It's cos I'm looking at you. She doesn't want to look at you.
0:34:24 > 0:34:25Right, OK, well,
0:34:25 > 0:34:28I'm breathing deeply cos I'm trying to think and you're not letting me.
0:34:28 > 0:34:31Be quiet. That's testing where my lungs are, you see?
0:34:31 > 0:34:33Yeah, I think I'm joining you with spirometer.
0:34:33 > 0:34:36Hold on a minute... Are we unanimous for once? Are we united?
0:34:36 > 0:34:37I think so. We're united.
0:34:37 > 0:34:41So there you have it. We are united. Ann says spirometer.
0:34:41 > 0:34:42Russell says spirometer.
0:34:42 > 0:34:45As a triumvirate, we say with confidence...
0:34:45 > 0:34:47spirometer. Spirometer.
0:34:47 > 0:34:50We have unity in the panel, Gordon.
0:34:50 > 0:34:54Not only are they going for spirometer, so am I.
0:34:54 > 0:34:57Spirometer. OK. Gordon is agreeing with our panel.
0:34:57 > 0:35:01Let's see, for ?500, to get this prize pot up...
0:35:03 > 0:35:04Now my heart's going.
0:35:04 > 0:35:06..is everyone correct?
0:35:06 > 0:35:10Does a spirometer record the movement and capacity of lungs?
0:35:12 > 0:35:15Surely it's that. Surely.
0:35:15 > 0:35:17CHEERING
0:35:19 > 0:35:21We got there in the end.
0:35:21 > 0:35:24You were right, the left lung is slightly smaller,
0:35:24 > 0:35:27the heart is located in between the lungs.
0:35:27 > 0:35:30If you want to know what a spirometer is...
0:35:30 > 0:35:32Is that what you blew into? Yeah.
0:35:32 > 0:35:34I had a lung age of 22.
0:35:34 > 0:35:40OK, well done. That is ?500 into the prize pot. We're now up to ?900.
0:35:40 > 0:35:42APPLAUSE
0:35:42 > 0:35:43Well done, panel.
0:35:43 > 0:35:47OK, final question, let's try to get up to ?1,400.
0:35:47 > 0:35:49Here we go. Best of luck.
0:36:05 > 0:36:08I can't remember, is it the Mariana Trench
0:36:08 > 0:36:09or something like that?
0:36:09 > 0:36:13I think that that is the deepest point on Earth. I'm going for A.
0:36:13 > 0:36:15It's the deepest point on Earth.
0:36:15 > 0:36:17OK, first thought is the deepest point on Earth.
0:36:17 > 0:36:19Panel, your debate starts now.
0:36:19 > 0:36:23Well, it's not... It's not the second largest ocean, is it?
0:36:23 > 0:36:24No, it's the biggest.
0:36:24 > 0:36:26It's the biggest, so rule out the second largest ocean.
0:36:26 > 0:36:29We're definitely sure about that. Surrounds Africa...
0:36:29 > 0:36:31You know your Portugals from your New Yorks.
0:36:31 > 0:36:32Anyone that's been to the Canaries
0:36:32 > 0:36:35know that you have to swim in the freezing cold Atlantic Ocean.
0:36:35 > 0:36:38Just by eliminating the other two, you come down to the first.
0:36:38 > 0:36:42Pretty sure that it's also the deepest ocean on there.
0:36:42 > 0:36:45It's also how Essex people say "specific".
0:36:45 > 0:36:47LAUGHTER
0:36:47 > 0:36:48It is, genuinely.
0:36:48 > 0:36:50"I've got a PACIFIC thought about that."
0:36:50 > 0:36:52I like the way that our unity has grown
0:36:52 > 0:36:54through the course of this programme.
0:36:54 > 0:36:56Ann says it contains the deepest point on Earth.
0:36:56 > 0:36:59Russell says it contains the deepest point on Earth.
0:36:59 > 0:37:02Altogether, we say that it does contain the deepest point on Earth.
0:37:02 > 0:37:04OK, no messing around there from the panel.
0:37:04 > 0:37:07We have unity, they're very confident.
0:37:07 > 0:37:09You thought it did contain the deepest point on Earth.
0:37:09 > 0:37:12And I still say it contains the deepest point on Earth.
0:37:12 > 0:37:13OK, let's hope it does,
0:37:13 > 0:37:17because this is going to get the money up to ?1,400.
0:37:17 > 0:37:21Does the Pacific Ocean contain the deepest point on Earth?
0:37:27 > 0:37:29It does!
0:37:31 > 0:37:33Well done, Gordon.
0:37:33 > 0:37:36The deepest point on Earth, you were right, it was the Mariana Trench.
0:37:36 > 0:37:38It's in the Pacific Ocean.
0:37:38 > 0:37:42It is approximately 36,000 feet below sea level.
0:37:42 > 0:37:46Africa is surrounded by the Atlantic and the Indian Ocean.
0:37:46 > 0:37:48Good news, Gordon,
0:37:48 > 0:37:50you've managed to get your money up in that round,
0:37:50 > 0:37:53so it means that, at the end of our three rounds,
0:37:53 > 0:37:57you're going to be playing for a prize pot today of ?1,400.
0:37:57 > 0:37:59APPLAUSE
0:38:01 > 0:38:03OK, Gordon, there's just one question that stands between you
0:38:03 > 0:38:06and the money and that is today's Final Debate.
0:38:06 > 0:38:07You will face one question.
0:38:07 > 0:38:11That question has six possible answers, three are correct.
0:38:11 > 0:38:13In order to win the money,
0:38:13 > 0:38:16we need you to give me all three correct answers.
0:38:16 > 0:38:19We're going to make life a little bit tricky for you
0:38:19 > 0:38:23as you will only be able to access one member of the panel.
0:38:23 > 0:38:28You and your celebrity will have 45 seconds to debate the answer.
0:38:28 > 0:38:31So, based on performance today, Gordon,
0:38:31 > 0:38:34who would you like to join you in the Final Debate?
0:38:40 > 0:38:41We'll have Russell, then, I think.
0:38:41 > 0:38:43Ugh! LAUGHTER
0:38:43 > 0:38:45He's performed really, really well.
0:38:45 > 0:38:46I've got to go with Russell.
0:38:46 > 0:38:50OK. Russell, would you please join us as we play the Final Debate?
0:38:50 > 0:38:51Oh, really?
0:38:56 > 0:38:58OK, Russell, Gordon has chosen you.
0:38:58 > 0:39:01You've played really, really well so far. How confident are you feeling?
0:39:01 > 0:39:04I'm confident if I get a subject I know about, I'll be able to nail it.
0:39:04 > 0:39:06OK. Best of luck.
0:39:06 > 0:39:08We're going to give you two categories, Gordon, to choose from.
0:39:08 > 0:39:11Have a look at today's Final Debate categories.
0:39:16 > 0:39:18Money might be a currency. What are you like on currencies?
0:39:18 > 0:39:20I'll be all right with Money. We can go with Money.
0:39:20 > 0:39:22I think I'm going to go for Money.
0:39:22 > 0:39:25Slightly more nerdy than flag collecting. It is, yeah.
0:39:25 > 0:39:27Flag collecting and money. We'll go for that one.
0:39:27 > 0:39:30OK, you're going for Money to bag the money.
0:39:30 > 0:39:34For ?1,400 with 45 seconds on the clock, best of luck, guys,
0:39:34 > 0:39:37here is today's Final Debate question.
0:39:45 > 0:39:47OK, all right. OK, all right.
0:39:54 > 0:39:56Oh, dear, oh, dear.
0:40:01 > 0:40:0345 seconds starts now.
0:40:03 > 0:40:05It's going to be guesses, I'm afraid, my man.
0:40:05 > 0:40:07So these are for the countries...
0:40:07 > 0:40:08I mean, the franc will obviously exist
0:40:08 > 0:40:11because of the post-colonial French countries.
0:40:11 > 0:40:13The shilling is likely to exist
0:40:13 > 0:40:16because there was some Germanic involvement in Africa,
0:40:16 > 0:40:19so there could be a leftover shilling somewhere.
0:40:19 > 0:40:22Sounds logical. Yes, I'm just...
0:40:22 > 0:40:25I'm just trying to put it in there.
0:40:25 > 0:40:28I'm just trying to think of the colonialism as well.
0:40:28 > 0:40:32Franc and shilling are the only post-colonial-sounding currencies.
0:40:32 > 0:40:35We're going to have to guess. 15 seconds.
0:40:35 > 0:40:37Yeah, so what countries are we going for, then?
0:40:37 > 0:40:39We'll need to have a little look at this...
0:40:39 > 0:40:42Oh, we're just having to say that these are African currencies,
0:40:42 > 0:40:44aren't we? We pick just one more.
0:40:44 > 0:40:46Well, shilling and franc.
0:40:47 > 0:40:49Again, it's got that French...
0:40:49 > 0:40:51KLAXON SOUNDS Time up, guys, I have to stop you.
0:40:51 > 0:40:54Gordon, we need three currencies from those six.
0:40:54 > 0:40:55Am I not allowed to speak?
0:40:55 > 0:41:00Right, I'm going for franc, I'm going for shilling,
0:41:00 > 0:41:04and I'm going for "leon". Or "leone".
0:41:04 > 0:41:09You were pretty confident about franc and shilling. Yep.
0:41:09 > 0:41:12Russell was pretty confident on those as well.
0:41:12 > 0:41:14Let's start with franc.
0:41:14 > 0:41:19For ?1,400, let's see if we can get a first correct answer.
0:41:19 > 0:41:22Is franc an official African currency?
0:41:27 > 0:41:28Yes! It is.
0:41:32 > 0:41:36Franc is our first correct answer. You then said shilling.
0:41:38 > 0:41:42To keep us on track for ?1,400, is shilling the correct answer?
0:41:46 > 0:41:47Yes. Ooh.
0:41:50 > 0:41:52OK, two from two.
0:41:52 > 0:41:56You were pretty sure about franc, you worked out shilling.
0:41:56 > 0:41:58The leone was a bit of a guess.
0:41:58 > 0:42:04It was a throw out, but it sounded more that it would be. Colon...
0:42:04 > 0:42:07That was my first... It's colon or leone, but I've got to go...
0:42:07 > 0:42:09You've got to make a decision.
0:42:09 > 0:42:11Dong is southeast Asia.
0:42:11 > 0:42:12You guessed leone.
0:42:12 > 0:42:16If leone is the correct answer, you leave with ?1,400.
0:42:16 > 0:42:19Gordon, if it is the wrong answer, I'm afraid you leave with nothing.
0:42:19 > 0:42:22Is leone an official African currency?
0:42:30 > 0:42:33CHEERING
0:42:33 > 0:42:35LAUGHING: Yes!
0:42:35 > 0:42:36Awesome. Well played. Oh, wow.
0:42:36 > 0:42:40Well done, congratulations. Well played, Russell.
0:42:40 > 0:42:41New Orleans, here we come.
0:42:41 > 0:42:45There we go - the franc, the shilling and leone.
0:42:45 > 0:42:49Well played. The franc is in several African countries,
0:42:49 > 0:42:53the French-speaking countries, also known as the CFA franc.
0:42:53 > 0:42:58The Central African shilling is in Kenya, Somalia, Tanzania, Uganda.
0:42:58 > 0:43:00Leone is, of course, Sierra Leone.
0:43:00 > 0:43:01Well worked out.
0:43:01 > 0:43:05The colon is the currency in Costa Rica.
0:43:05 > 0:43:07The dong - Vietnam.
0:43:07 > 0:43:11The taka is the unit of currency in Bangladesh. Yep.
0:43:11 > 0:43:13And all of that means that you leave today with ?1,400.
0:43:13 > 0:43:15Well played, Gordon.
0:43:17 > 0:43:19Well done. Brilliant.
0:43:19 > 0:43:20That is it for Debatable.
0:43:20 > 0:43:23There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel today -
0:43:23 > 0:43:26Russell Kane, Ann Widdecombe, and Dan Walker.
0:43:26 > 0:43:29APPLAUSE
0:43:29 > 0:43:30I hope you've enjoyed watching.
0:43:30 > 0:43:32We will see you next time for more heated debates.
0:43:32 > 0:43:35For now, it's goodbye from me.
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