0:00:10 > 0:00:12APPLAUSE
0:00:14 > 0:00:19Hello and welcome to Debatable, the quiz show where talk is cheap
0:00:19 > 0:00:22but celebrity chat can win a contestant money.
0:00:22 > 0:00:26Today, one player must answer a series of tricky questions to
0:00:26 > 0:00:29try and bag our jackpot of ?3,000.
0:00:29 > 0:00:32But they are not on their own, they'll also have
0:00:32 > 0:00:36a panel of celebrity brain boxes debating their way to the answer.
0:00:36 > 0:00:40Will they help, or will they hinder? Well, that's debatable.
0:00:40 > 0:00:41So, let's meet them.
0:00:41 > 0:00:44On today's show we have...
0:00:44 > 0:00:46Journalist Rachel Johnson.
0:00:46 > 0:00:49We have reporter Michael Buerk
0:00:49 > 0:00:51and broadcaster and campaigner June Sarpong.
0:00:51 > 0:00:54APPLAUSE
0:00:56 > 0:00:58So that's the panel,
0:00:58 > 0:01:00let's meet today's contestant!
0:01:00 > 0:01:01APPLAUSE
0:01:03 > 0:01:07Welcome to the show. Thank you. It's Helen Badcock from Buckinghamshire.
0:01:07 > 0:01:09Tell us a little bit about yourself.
0:01:09 > 0:01:13Um, I'm a former head teacher of a large primary school in Slough.
0:01:13 > 0:01:17They're straightening themselves up already there, Helen. LAUGHTER
0:01:17 > 0:01:20So whenever you're controlling your classroom then,
0:01:20 > 0:01:22what techniques do you use?
0:01:22 > 0:01:25Well, traditionally I have the eyebrow technique,
0:01:25 > 0:01:28which means I generally raise one eyebrow...
0:01:28 > 0:01:29PANEL GASPS
0:01:29 > 0:01:30JUNE: Oh...
0:01:30 > 0:01:34Should you get two eyebrows, you're in serious trouble.
0:01:34 > 0:01:37So it tends to go from...
0:01:37 > 0:01:39Oh!
0:01:39 > 0:01:42Chilling. That put you in your place, Johnson. Sit up straight.
0:01:42 > 0:01:43That's me told. And if you won today,
0:01:43 > 0:01:45what would you do with the cash?
0:01:45 > 0:01:47I want it to pay for my caravan. To pay for your...
0:01:47 > 0:01:50You've got a caravan? No, I want a caravan.
0:01:50 > 0:01:51Oh, you do. I want a caravan.
0:01:51 > 0:01:54And so where are we going to go in this caravan when we win the
0:01:54 > 0:01:56money, you and I? Oh... Where do you want to go? I don't know.
0:01:56 > 0:01:58Let's go to Wales. Let's go to Wales.
0:01:58 > 0:02:01Let's take the dog for a walk up Snowdon. OK. That'll be great, yeah.
0:02:01 > 0:02:04OK. Are you ready to play, Helen? Absolutely.
0:02:04 > 0:02:08OK, let's get this Debatable show on the road and play Round One!
0:02:11 > 0:02:13This round is multiple choice.
0:02:13 > 0:02:18Each question has four possible answers but only one is correct.
0:02:18 > 0:02:20Helping you find the correct answer, of course, is our panel.
0:02:20 > 0:02:23Will you go with what they say, or will you go your own way?
0:02:23 > 0:02:25It is entirely up to you.
0:02:25 > 0:02:28There's three questions in this round and each correct answer
0:02:28 > 0:02:32will bank you ?200 into your prize pot, which you'll be playing
0:02:32 > 0:02:35for at the end of the show in today's final debate. Happy to play?
0:02:35 > 0:02:39Absolutely. OK, let's get cracking, Helen. Here's your first question.
0:02:57 > 0:03:01As all your former pupils sit and watch this show and think,
0:03:01 > 0:03:04"Here comes the payback," What are you thinking?
0:03:04 > 0:03:11I think wild goose chase, possibly, is not a Shakespeare phrase.
0:03:11 > 0:03:14Um, and butter-fingers. OK.
0:03:14 > 0:03:16For the first time we have a panel look at a contestant
0:03:16 > 0:03:20looking for help. It should be the other way around.
0:03:20 > 0:03:23OK, panel, let's get cracking. Your debate starts now.
0:03:23 > 0:03:28Well, come on, June. Did they have salad? Did they have salad? Yeah.
0:03:28 > 0:03:31Did Shakespeare have salad? Yeah. Good point. I don't think so.
0:03:31 > 0:03:34I think salad days is Shakespearean.
0:03:34 > 0:03:37I did Merchant Of Venice at school.
0:03:37 > 0:03:41Mm-hm. And I'm sure green-eyed monster is in Merchant Of Venice.
0:03:41 > 0:03:43So I think we can rule that out.
0:03:43 > 0:03:47Or Othello with Iago, because it was a play about jealousy. Yeah.
0:03:47 > 0:03:50Let's say green-eyed monster and salad days are Shakespearean.
0:03:50 > 0:03:52I think we can tick that off.
0:03:52 > 0:03:54Geese, as well, were big in Shakespearean England. They were.
0:03:54 > 0:03:57That's right. So I'm thinking wild goose chase
0:03:57 > 0:03:59could apply to almost any one of the plays. Yeah.
0:03:59 > 0:04:01So wild goose chase is out.
0:04:01 > 0:04:04So it gets to be a toss-up, a toss salad up
0:04:04 > 0:04:06with butter-fingers and salad days.
0:04:06 > 0:04:10Yeah. Come on, June. Be forthright. I think... The way you normally are.
0:04:10 > 0:04:13Come on, know-all. Which one?
0:04:13 > 0:04:16Um, I think butter-fingers.
0:04:16 > 0:04:18Yeah, I think butter-fingers. I think butter-fingers.
0:04:18 > 0:04:21I think we're agreed. Do we all think butter-fingers?
0:04:21 > 0:04:23Butter-fingers. Slipping through our butter-fingers? Yeah.
0:04:23 > 0:04:26Helen, we're probably wrong...
0:04:26 > 0:04:27Don't take our word for it.
0:04:27 > 0:04:29But I think...
0:04:29 > 0:04:32The panel thinks that the one phrase,
0:04:32 > 0:04:36not initiated by Shakespeare, is butter-fingers.
0:04:37 > 0:04:40So, Michael is confident that Rachel knows.
0:04:41 > 0:04:44But that's all. Has that changed your mind?
0:04:44 > 0:04:48Actually, I thought the panel showed a lot of Shakespearean knowledge.
0:04:48 > 0:04:51The salad days, I wasn't sure about, but I'm sure I saw something
0:04:51 > 0:04:56on a cookery show where they referred to a Shakespearean salad
0:04:56 > 0:04:58as not actually having leaves in it,
0:04:58 > 0:05:00it was made with all sorts of weird things.
0:05:00 > 0:05:03I don't know, I'm pretty convinced you're right, actually.
0:05:03 > 0:05:06I think butter-fingers could be the answer.
0:05:06 > 0:05:08I'm going to agree with the panel. OK.
0:05:08 > 0:05:10Our panel has gone for butter-fingers.
0:05:10 > 0:05:12Helen has agreed with them. Mmm.
0:05:12 > 0:05:16For ?200, Helen, is butter-fingers the correct answer?
0:05:20 > 0:05:22It is the correct answer!
0:05:22 > 0:05:24Fantastic!
0:05:27 > 0:05:29You left him hanging!
0:05:29 > 0:05:31No... Butter-fingers.
0:05:31 > 0:05:33Oh, butter-fingers, I see.
0:05:33 > 0:05:35Er, well done.
0:05:35 > 0:05:36Butter-fingers credited, of course,
0:05:36 > 0:05:41to Charles Dickens according to the Oxford English Dictionary.
0:05:41 > 0:05:45OK, well played, Helen, we're up and running, ?200 in the bank.
0:05:45 > 0:05:47Fantastic, thank you. APPLAUSE
0:05:50 > 0:05:52Here comes your next question.
0:06:04 > 0:06:06June Sarpong is already throwing her hands in the air
0:06:06 > 0:06:08before we even mention. Is it...
0:06:16 > 0:06:20Do you watch Sports Personality, Helen? I watch sport.
0:06:20 > 0:06:22I'm an armchair athlete. Yes.
0:06:22 > 0:06:26I think that we do very well
0:06:26 > 0:06:29in the sitting down sports in Britain. Yes.
0:06:29 > 0:06:32So I'm feeling quite good with cycling.
0:06:32 > 0:06:36I'm hoping that one or two of you may have been to the
0:06:36 > 0:06:38Sports Personality programme.
0:06:38 > 0:06:43Yes, well, Helen, they always invite the biggest stars in the
0:06:43 > 0:06:46nation to Sports Personality Of The Year.
0:06:46 > 0:06:48We've all been, haven't we?!
0:06:48 > 0:06:50LAUGHTER
0:06:50 > 0:06:53Let's see what our panel make of this one.
0:06:53 > 0:06:55Guys, your time starts now.
0:06:55 > 0:06:58Er... I have been to it, actually. Cool. There you go.
0:06:58 > 0:06:59Well... Why?
0:06:59 > 0:07:00What do you mean, why?
0:07:00 > 0:07:03I'm extraordinarily athletic.
0:07:03 > 0:07:05He's a BBC legend.
0:07:05 > 0:07:07If you only saw me in action... Which sports do you follow?
0:07:07 > 0:07:09I... Well...
0:07:09 > 0:07:13Not many. Look, come on, let's be analytical about this.
0:07:13 > 0:07:16Um, what do you reckon, June? I think, you know, it can't be tennis.
0:07:16 > 0:07:18Definitely not. We hadn't won anything till Andy Murray
0:07:18 > 0:07:20came along, apart from Virginia Wade. Exactly.
0:07:20 > 0:07:22It's not tennis. Get rid of tennis.
0:07:22 > 0:07:25We're really good at cycling, Rachel, don't you think?
0:07:25 > 0:07:29That's more recently, that's more recently. That's Bradley Wiggins.
0:07:29 > 0:07:33Yes. Sir Bradley Wiggins. Sir Bradley. Chris Hoy. Chris Hoy.
0:07:33 > 0:07:36Chris Hoy, who we love. But that's recently.
0:07:36 > 0:07:40The only bit I can put into this is that Sports Personality Of The Year
0:07:40 > 0:07:42was started by that wonderful bloke, Peter Dimmock.
0:07:42 > 0:07:45Before your time I have to say. Yeah. Who used to do Sportsview.
0:07:45 > 0:07:47He had a wonderful handlebar moustache.
0:07:47 > 0:07:49So it must have started in the '50s. OK.
0:07:49 > 0:07:52So it must have been going for nearly 60 years. That's right.
0:07:52 > 0:07:54What about Formula One? Well, that's my choice.
0:07:54 > 0:07:58What about Damon what's it, who is the son of Graham Hill? Graham Hill.
0:07:58 > 0:08:00Jenson Button. Lewis Hamilton. Yeah.
0:08:00 > 0:08:01But there's also others.
0:08:01 > 0:08:04But there was a time we did well at snooker. There was, wasn't there?
0:08:04 > 0:08:07They're not so much personalities the snooker players, are they?
0:08:07 > 0:08:11It's more of a pub sport. They were huge in the '80s.
0:08:11 > 0:08:15Let's rule out tennis. Yeah. Not tennis.
0:08:15 > 0:08:17But Formula One, over the years...
0:08:17 > 0:08:19We have had a couple of, yeah, big moments.
0:08:19 > 0:08:21Right back to Mike Hawthorne, maybe Stirling Moss... Yeah.
0:08:21 > 0:08:24..though he never won the world championship. I think Formula One.
0:08:24 > 0:08:27I think Formula One, too. Are you OK with Formula One.
0:08:27 > 0:08:29I think I'm good with it. Yeah. Vroom-vroom.
0:08:29 > 0:08:31LAUGHTER
0:08:31 > 0:08:34The panel goes with more conviction than normal - Formula One.
0:08:34 > 0:08:37Only because we don't know anything else.
0:08:38 > 0:08:41They have plopped for Formula One. Have they been of any help, Helen?
0:08:41 > 0:08:45I'm a little bit undecided between Formula One and snooker.
0:08:45 > 0:08:50I think we've had a lot of British personalities who've been very,
0:08:50 > 0:08:54very strong. You know, Steve Davis, Willie Thorne, Dennis Taylor.
0:08:54 > 0:08:59So I'm actually going to choose the pub sport of snooker as my answer.
0:08:59 > 0:09:03Our panel has gone for Formula One, you have decided to go for snooker.
0:09:03 > 0:09:06For ?200 is snooker the correct answer?
0:09:11 > 0:09:13It was Formula One. AUDIENCE GROANS
0:09:13 > 0:09:16It was. I should have listened.
0:09:16 > 0:09:20Formula One has won it on seven different occasions.
0:09:20 > 0:09:23We had Lewis Hamilton, Damon Hill
0:09:23 > 0:09:25twice, Nigel Mansell
0:09:25 > 0:09:28and Jackie Stewart and, of course, Stirling Moss.
0:09:28 > 0:09:32Tennis has actually won it on five occasions. Cycling, four times.
0:09:32 > 0:09:36Snooker has won it just once in 1988 with?
0:09:36 > 0:09:37Oh, Steve Davis.
0:09:37 > 0:09:38Steve Davis, there you go. Oh.
0:09:38 > 0:09:41Unfortunately, you got that question wrong which means that the prize
0:09:41 > 0:09:45pot is still at ?200 but we've got plenty of opportunity to get it up.
0:09:45 > 0:09:48OK? Here comes your third question.
0:10:06 > 0:10:09You're having a little giggle yourself. Is this good news, Helen?
0:10:09 > 0:10:10Well... Do you know the answer?
0:10:10 > 0:10:13There was a comic sketch about the Oo-Ah bird
0:10:13 > 0:10:16and they laid square eggs, didn't they?
0:10:16 > 0:10:18They did.
0:10:18 > 0:10:22That's what's making me think eggs because that would make
0:10:22 > 0:10:24complete sense to me. Yes. Oo-Ah.
0:10:24 > 0:10:27It makes complete sense to me too, Helen.
0:10:27 > 0:10:28I'm... LAUGHTER
0:10:28 > 0:10:30I'm pretty sure it's not singing.
0:10:30 > 0:10:34I'm sure that's ah-oo-ology. Um...
0:10:34 > 0:10:36But I might be wrong.
0:10:36 > 0:10:39Um, OK, so I think at the moment I'm going with eggs.
0:10:39 > 0:10:42Let's see if our panel can help out.
0:10:42 > 0:10:45Your debate starts now.
0:10:45 > 0:10:48Was the Oo-Ah bird the same as the Ooh-Me-Goolie bird
0:10:48 > 0:10:52that didn't have an undercarriage.
0:10:52 > 0:10:53We won't go there.
0:10:53 > 0:10:55Although we've just been there!
0:10:55 > 0:10:57Um... Eggs.
0:10:57 > 0:11:00The Latin for egg is ovum. It is.
0:11:00 > 0:11:01The plural is ova.
0:11:01 > 0:11:04There should be a V in it if it's a study of eggs, shouldn't it?
0:11:04 > 0:11:06Oh, unless it's Greek.
0:11:06 > 0:11:07Ah... Yes.
0:11:07 > 0:11:09Because logos is Greek
0:11:09 > 0:11:15and I actually have to confess I did read Latin and Greek at Oxford.
0:11:15 > 0:11:19I'm afraid I'm going to bring some expert knowledge to bear.
0:11:19 > 0:11:22I'm sorry.
0:11:22 > 0:11:25If I get this wrong, can you imagine the embarrassment? Yeah.
0:11:25 > 0:11:27I think the Greek for egg is...
0:11:27 > 0:11:29Oh, it does begin with O,
0:11:29 > 0:11:31oion, or something like that.
0:11:31 > 0:11:34So I'm going with eggs, too.
0:11:34 > 0:11:36Well, there isn't much we can say after that. What about muscles?
0:11:36 > 0:11:39Do you think muscles? I haven't got a clue.
0:11:39 > 0:11:44I'm going to go with eggs just because Rachel was so convincing.
0:11:44 > 0:11:46So what do you think, muscles?
0:11:46 > 0:11:50Well, um... All right, all right.
0:11:50 > 0:11:52Actually you can feel me a bit more.
0:11:52 > 0:11:56Um... Does anybody study lakes?
0:11:56 > 0:11:59Yes, I'm sure they do but I don't think it's called oology.
0:11:59 > 0:12:03Jacques Cousteau. Oology, no. I don't think it would be called that.
0:12:03 > 0:12:05Singing... Oo, oo, oo. No, you do it.
0:12:05 > 0:12:09Well... Rachel, this is down to you. Yeah.
0:12:09 > 0:12:11I'm betting the farm one. You're betting the farm one.
0:12:11 > 0:12:15On the basis of Rachel's classical education at Oxford, this oology...
0:12:15 > 0:12:17Can we mention that again, actually?
0:12:19 > 0:12:22We think oology is the study of eggs.
0:12:24 > 0:12:28Never has one member of the panel been hung out to dry on
0:12:28 > 0:12:30a question more on this show.
0:12:30 > 0:12:34So, June and Michael pointing towards Rachel.
0:12:34 > 0:12:37Rachel believes that it is eggs.
0:12:37 > 0:12:40Not a mention of a comedy sketch, Helen. No.
0:12:40 > 0:12:42But we've managed to get to the same answer.
0:12:42 > 0:12:45We have, but actually, I think Rachel's very convincing.
0:12:45 > 0:12:47I'm very happy to go with Rachel's answer.
0:12:47 > 0:12:50I thought that was very well debated, actually.
0:12:50 > 0:12:52Ooo...
0:12:52 > 0:12:54I hope it's not lakes because we've all decided that no-one
0:12:54 > 0:12:56studies them.
0:12:56 > 0:12:59OK, Helen, you are going with eggs.
0:13:00 > 0:13:03For ?200 is eggs the correct answer?
0:13:08 > 0:13:10Yes!
0:13:10 > 0:13:12APPLAUSE
0:13:17 > 0:13:20That Oxford education was worth it.
0:13:20 > 0:13:23As Michael Buerk and June Sarpong shamelessly try to hang onto
0:13:23 > 0:13:27the coat tails of Rachel Johnson's knowledge there.
0:13:27 > 0:13:29So, Helen, that's another 200 in the bank and at the end of
0:13:29 > 0:13:31Round One you've banked ?400!
0:13:31 > 0:13:33Fantastic!
0:13:35 > 0:13:38So let's see how we cope with pictures.
0:13:38 > 0:13:40It's time for Round Two.
0:13:43 > 0:13:45OK, Helen, Round Two is our picture round.
0:13:45 > 0:13:49All you have to do is place three pictures in the correct order.
0:13:49 > 0:13:52It sounds simple but it's not.
0:13:52 > 0:13:55There are three questions in this round and each correct answer
0:13:55 > 0:13:57is worth ?300.
0:13:57 > 0:13:59So best of luck, here we go. Thank you.
0:14:20 > 0:14:23That is a tricky one, actually,
0:14:23 > 0:14:26but I think the panel are going to know this.
0:14:26 > 0:14:29I think Michael, no pressure,
0:14:29 > 0:14:32you will have really good knowledge of this.
0:14:32 > 0:14:33You poor benighted fool.
0:14:33 > 0:14:36LAUGHTER
0:14:36 > 0:14:39I agree, Helen. I agree.
0:14:39 > 0:14:43If anyone is going to know the important events that have shaped
0:14:43 > 0:14:48the world the man in the middle is going to come up trumps here.
0:14:48 > 0:14:53So, no pressure, Michael. Here we go, your debate starts now.
0:14:53 > 0:14:56Decimalisation... Early '70s?
0:14:56 > 0:15:00The Nixon re-election I think is '72.
0:15:00 > 0:15:01Now, how do you know that?
0:15:01 > 0:15:03Because... Re-election.
0:15:03 > 0:15:08Re-election, yeah, because I think he won in '68. The silent majority.
0:15:08 > 0:15:12Yeah. So the re-election, '72. Right.
0:15:12 > 0:15:14Berlin Wall?
0:15:14 > 0:15:18Well, it was after the Second World War concluding and the partition.
0:15:18 > 0:15:21Yeah, when was that? So after '45, so that's got to be the earliest.
0:15:21 > 0:15:24Yeah, it was the earliest but the wall wasn't built until quite
0:15:24 > 0:15:26a long time after that.
0:15:26 > 0:15:29Yes, but within the next 20 years which takes us comfortably
0:15:29 > 0:15:33shy of the '70s, which is when we think decimalisation and
0:15:33 > 0:15:37Nixon were roughly. Mmm.
0:15:37 > 0:15:39So we've got to judge which came first,
0:15:39 > 0:15:42decimalisation or the re-election of Nixon.
0:15:42 > 0:15:45I think these were all early '70s. Yeah, I think they were.
0:15:45 > 0:15:49Berlin Wall, maybe late '60s. Yeah. So you reckon Berlin Wall first.
0:15:49 > 0:15:52Yes. Do we? Yeah. Do you go along with that, Rachel?
0:15:52 > 0:15:55I definitely think so, yes. Berlin Wall first. What about these two?
0:15:55 > 0:16:00I would say decimalisation second. Decimalisation second.
0:16:00 > 0:16:03And Nixon third. And Nixon third. Yeah.
0:16:03 > 0:16:05So... We could be wrong.
0:16:06 > 0:16:09Yeah, I like your sense of certainty here.
0:16:09 > 0:16:11With '72 I am, I don't know about the rest.
0:16:11 > 0:16:14At least you know something which is more than the rest of us do.
0:16:14 > 0:16:17So on the basis of June's encyclopaedic knowledge of
0:16:17 > 0:16:18American politics,
0:16:18 > 0:16:20and on the basis of our complete... Absence of knowledge.
0:16:20 > 0:16:22Total ignorance of everything else,
0:16:22 > 0:16:27we go for Berlin Wall first, followed by decimalisation,
0:16:27 > 0:16:31followed by the re-election of Richard Nixon.
0:16:31 > 0:16:34So after thinking that Michael could sort this out entirely on his
0:16:34 > 0:16:37own, we have a definite answer from June.
0:16:37 > 0:16:40We have a definitely answer from Rachel and Michael is going
0:16:40 > 0:16:42along with the panel. Exactly!
0:16:44 > 0:16:46I was really impressed with you, June.
0:16:46 > 0:16:50I thought that you had that knowledge at your fingertips.
0:16:50 > 0:16:52Really interested to hear from you, Rachel as well,
0:16:52 > 0:16:56about the timing of the Berlin Wall because that was one that I
0:16:56 > 0:16:58really couldn't put a date on.
0:16:58 > 0:17:04I think that decimalisation came in about '71 or '72 but I'm going
0:17:04 > 0:17:09to trust in June's answer about Nixon being re-elected in 1972.
0:17:09 > 0:17:10So we're agreeing with the panel.
0:17:10 > 0:17:13We are agreeing with the panel, yes.
0:17:13 > 0:17:17OK, for ?300 the correct order is...
0:17:22 > 0:17:23Oh! APPLAUSE
0:17:23 > 0:17:25Well done. Fantastic.
0:17:28 > 0:17:30So the Berlin Wall was built in...?
0:17:30 > 0:17:341961. Decimalisation introduced in...
0:17:34 > 0:17:391971 and 1972... Good knowledge, good knowledge.
0:17:39 > 0:17:41Very good knowledge.
0:17:41 > 0:17:45Richard Nixon re-elected as president in 1972.
0:17:45 > 0:17:48So 300 quid is added to your prize pot,
0:17:48 > 0:17:49you're doing very, very well, Helen.
0:17:49 > 0:17:52You are up so far to ?700!
0:17:52 > 0:17:53Fantastic!
0:17:53 > 0:17:55APPLAUSE
0:17:58 > 0:18:00OK, Helen, let's take a look at question two in this round.
0:18:00 > 0:18:02Here it comes.
0:18:19 > 0:18:21Well...
0:18:21 > 0:18:24When the question came up I was thinking, well,
0:18:24 > 0:18:28size of animal would indicate a longer gestation period.
0:18:28 > 0:18:31The polar bear might be an anomaly with that, as well.
0:18:31 > 0:18:32Why are you thinking that?
0:18:32 > 0:18:34Well, I think I saw,
0:18:34 > 0:18:38maybe a David Attenborough show where the polar bear actually comes
0:18:38 > 0:18:43quite early and then the mother incubates it within its folds,
0:18:43 > 0:18:45which sounds lovely. Mmm.
0:18:45 > 0:18:47Yes, over to you, panel. I think I need some help with this one.
0:18:47 > 0:18:49OK, Helen says she needs some help,
0:18:49 > 0:18:52our panel have done really well so far, four out of four. They have.
0:18:52 > 0:18:55No pressure, guys. Your debate time starts now.
0:18:55 > 0:18:59I think horses are pregnant for the same length of time as human beings.
0:18:59 > 0:19:04As women. I think... I'm glad you excluded us. Yeah, not men.
0:19:04 > 0:19:07I think they probably can be pregnant now.
0:19:07 > 0:19:10I know a great fertility doctor. No, all right, all right.
0:19:10 > 0:19:13I'll look forward to that opportunity when it comes along.
0:19:13 > 0:19:16Did you see the picture of the panda holding that cub in its
0:19:16 > 0:19:17mouth and it was a tiny,
0:19:17 > 0:19:21little foetus and I think that must be short gestation period.
0:19:21 > 0:19:24And do you think a polar bear is of the same ilk? It's a bear.
0:19:24 > 0:19:26It's a bear. All right.
0:19:26 > 0:19:29So I think it's between the camel and the horse.
0:19:29 > 0:19:31Camels are pregnant for ever.
0:19:31 > 0:19:35Aren't they pregnant 24 months, or something. Yeah.
0:19:35 > 0:19:38They've got an incredible bladder capacity. They do.
0:19:39 > 0:19:42They have an incredible bladder capacity, they live in the desert.
0:19:42 > 0:19:46I mean it's water retention. Yeah, that's the same thing, though.
0:19:46 > 0:19:47I mean...
0:19:49 > 0:19:53I think it's a camel. Polar bear, horse and then camel.
0:19:53 > 0:19:57I'm just a little bit worried about the polar bear because...
0:19:57 > 0:20:00No, I want to lay your fears to rest on that score. It's cold!
0:20:00 > 0:20:03Look how tiny that baby panda was.
0:20:03 > 0:20:06It's growing up in the jungle in China, it's warm.
0:20:06 > 0:20:08How long would it take to grow something that big,
0:20:08 > 0:20:09about three months?
0:20:09 > 0:20:13Well, yeah... I'm telling you, Michael, I've done it myself.
0:20:13 > 0:20:18A couple of times. You can't argue with women and childbirth.
0:20:18 > 0:20:20No, you can't! You're onto a loser.
0:20:20 > 0:20:24OK, shall we say polar bear, horse, camel? Yeah.
0:20:24 > 0:20:27Have we got it in the right order? You two girls know about this.
0:20:27 > 0:20:30Change yours round. Yeah.
0:20:30 > 0:20:33There we go. I've taken control of this one as the only one... Yeah.
0:20:33 > 0:20:37..to have actually delivered three infants. Three lovely infants.
0:20:37 > 0:20:40So this is the panel's considered view.
0:20:40 > 0:20:45On gestation periods, the shortest is the polar bear,
0:20:45 > 0:20:50second is the horse but the longest gestation period is a camel.
0:20:51 > 0:20:55So, Helen, Rachel has given birth to three children and that makes
0:20:55 > 0:20:58her an expert on polar bears, horses and camels.
0:20:58 > 0:21:03What there any sense talk there? I... I wasn't sure about the camel.
0:21:03 > 0:21:07Um, I think camels have a really big bladder but you need
0:21:07 > 0:21:10a big bladder if you're going to have babies, don't you, really?
0:21:10 > 0:21:13Polar bear, might be a wild card but let's stick with that. Yeah.
0:21:13 > 0:21:15Let's stick with that.
0:21:15 > 0:21:17Rachel is adamant.
0:21:17 > 0:21:20Helen, not so sure but you are going along with our panel.
0:21:20 > 0:21:24You're going for polar bear, horse and then camel.
0:21:26 > 0:21:28For ?300, Helen...
0:21:29 > 0:21:31Is it the correct answer?
0:21:34 > 0:21:36It is the correct answer! APPLAUSE
0:21:36 > 0:21:37Woo!
0:21:37 > 0:21:40100% record, well done.
0:21:42 > 0:21:45Well played, Rachel Johnson, well done.
0:21:45 > 0:21:48So the polar bear is the shortest, eight months,
0:21:48 > 0:21:51then we have a horse, 11 months
0:21:51 > 0:21:56and then a camel, 13 months, June, not 24.
0:21:56 > 0:21:59That adds another 300 quid to the prize pot.
0:21:59 > 0:22:00You're doing really well.
0:22:00 > 0:22:03You're now up to ?1,000!
0:22:03 > 0:22:05Wow! Fantastic.
0:22:08 > 0:22:10So let's have a little look at question three in this round.
0:22:26 > 0:22:27Are you a movie fan?
0:22:27 > 0:22:29I am, actually.
0:22:30 > 0:22:33I think Meryl Streep won her first Oscar for Kramer vs Kramer
0:22:33 > 0:22:36back in about '72, something like that.
0:22:37 > 0:22:40I definitely need your help with that one, that's going to be tough.
0:22:40 > 0:22:43Alrighty, let's see if the panel can help.
0:22:43 > 0:22:46Your debate time starts now.
0:22:46 > 0:22:49I'm going to say unchivalrous things. Go on, say them.
0:22:49 > 0:22:51Well, the oldest one, I would have thought,
0:22:51 > 0:22:54most likely to have got the Oscar first.
0:22:54 > 0:22:55Jane Fonda.
0:22:55 > 0:22:59I think, I mean, she is... I think she got one.
0:22:59 > 0:23:02This is a hostage of fortune, she is very well preserved, isn't she?
0:23:02 > 0:23:05She's quite old. I think she's 70 something. She's 76.
0:23:05 > 0:23:10All those athletics videos obviously worked, didn't they? She's gorgeous.
0:23:10 > 0:23:14I think she got it for Barefoot In The Sand or whatever it was called.
0:23:14 > 0:23:18Barefoot In The Park, was it? Must've been the '70s, mustn't it?
0:23:18 > 0:23:20Jane Fonda got hers in the '70s.
0:23:20 > 0:23:23Meryl Streep was definitely Kramer Vs Kramer.
0:23:23 > 0:23:27Nominated for more than anybody else. But she's only ever won twice.
0:23:27 > 0:23:29Didn't she get one for The Iron Lady?
0:23:29 > 0:23:32Yeah, but before that was Kramer Vs Kramer,
0:23:32 > 0:23:35and everyone thought she'd won lots of them but she's only one twice.
0:23:35 > 0:23:37She was certainly nominated a lot of times. Yeah.
0:23:37 > 0:23:40I would say it was Meryl second. Yes. Would you?
0:23:40 > 0:23:44Because I think Sally Field got it when she was in her 40s. Yeah.
0:23:44 > 0:23:48But I can't remember what for. But Jane Fonda first? Yes.
0:23:48 > 0:23:49Then Meryl Streep? Yeah.
0:23:49 > 0:23:51You cool with that? Yeah, I'm cool with it.
0:23:51 > 0:23:54So I need to swap. Who have I got? The wrong one.
0:23:54 > 0:23:57Meryl, Jane. Is that right? Yeah.
0:23:57 > 0:24:00After due deliberation, the panel has come to the conclusion,
0:24:00 > 0:24:02the Oscar goes to...
0:24:02 > 0:24:04All three of them!
0:24:04 > 0:24:07Jane Fonda first, Meryl Streep second and Sally Field third.
0:24:07 > 0:24:10Any gems that we've gleaned from this?
0:24:10 > 0:24:12I think Sally Field is a bit later,
0:24:12 > 0:24:15I think she came into her own sort of 1970s onwards.
0:24:15 > 0:24:19So I think I'm going with the panel,
0:24:19 > 0:24:21I think I'm going to stick with
0:24:21 > 0:24:23Jane Fonda first, the earliest,
0:24:23 > 0:24:26and then Meryl Streep and then Sally Field.
0:24:26 > 0:24:30OK. Is that correct?
0:24:34 > 0:24:37Oooh! It's the wrong answer.
0:24:37 > 0:24:40The correct answer is:
0:24:42 > 0:24:45Jane Fonda, Sally Field and then Meryl Streep.
0:24:45 > 0:24:46So Meryl didn't get an Oscar.
0:24:46 > 0:24:51Jane Fonda won in 1972, for Klute.
0:24:51 > 0:24:56Then it was Sally Field in 1980 for Norma Rae.
0:24:56 > 0:25:03And then it was Meryl Streep in 1983 for Sophie's Choice. Oh!
0:25:04 > 0:25:08She'd previously won a best supporting actress Oscar
0:25:08 > 0:25:11in 1980 for Kramer Vs Kramer. Oh!
0:25:11 > 0:25:14So, Helen, unfortunately... That was a toughie.
0:25:14 > 0:25:15It was, it was a toughie.
0:25:15 > 0:25:18Unfortunately you didn't manage to bank anything for that question
0:25:18 > 0:25:21which means that you are still on ?1,000.
0:25:21 > 0:25:22Fantastic.
0:25:22 > 0:25:24APPLAUSE
0:25:26 > 0:25:30So, our panel have broken their winning streak at last.
0:25:30 > 0:25:31It had to come to an end.
0:25:31 > 0:25:33Who do we think is proving most useful,
0:25:33 > 0:25:36bearing in mind we're going to have to choose one of them
0:25:36 > 0:25:37to play the final debate?
0:25:37 > 0:25:40It's going to be a really difficult choice, actually.
0:25:40 > 0:25:43The panel are definitely showing the knowledge they have,
0:25:43 > 0:25:47and sometimes the knowledge they didn't know that they had, as well.
0:25:47 > 0:25:51Is that a good thing? It's a very good thing for me!
0:25:51 > 0:25:55Yeah, I've got a few ideas about who I might choose for the final round.
0:25:55 > 0:25:57OK, Helen, let's play round three.
0:26:00 > 0:26:04In this round, you're going to face questions that contain
0:26:04 > 0:26:07three statements relating to a person, a place or a thing.
0:26:07 > 0:26:10But only one statement is true.
0:26:10 > 0:26:13You must decide which one it is.
0:26:13 > 0:26:14There are three questions in this round.
0:26:14 > 0:26:18And as it is our final round, we're going to up the cash
0:26:18 > 0:26:21to ?500 a question.
0:26:21 > 0:26:24So let's see we can get this total up as best we can. Absolutely.
0:26:24 > 0:26:26Here's your first question.
0:26:49 > 0:26:53What do you think? I've not been. Which is a problem.
0:26:53 > 0:26:55It's not a good question for me.
0:26:55 > 0:26:59But I have a lot of faith in the extensive travelling
0:26:59 > 0:27:02that I know these three have done.
0:27:02 > 0:27:07Let's see if our panel's extensive travel can help sort this one out.
0:27:07 > 0:27:10Over to you, the debate starts now.
0:27:10 > 0:27:12I think we can make ourselves look pretty stupid here
0:27:12 > 0:27:14if we get this one wrong.
0:27:14 > 0:27:17The trouble is with Luxembourg, is blink and you've missed it.
0:27:17 > 0:27:20It's about the size of Godalming, isn't it? Yeah. Probably.
0:27:20 > 0:27:24It certainly hasn't had a winter Olympic Games. It can't have done.
0:27:24 > 0:27:27Well, it hasn't got any hills for a start.
0:27:27 > 0:27:30We've got to discount that. And no snow, so that can go.
0:27:30 > 0:27:34My grip on European geography is pretty slim. Mine too.
0:27:34 > 0:27:37But I'm pretty sure it doesn't share a border with Switzerland. No.
0:27:37 > 0:27:40But can you think of a European country with an X in its name?
0:27:40 > 0:27:42No, I was thinking of Brussels,
0:27:42 > 0:27:45but that's obviously a capital and not a country. Bruxelles, yeah.
0:27:45 > 0:27:48It's a capital, not a country. Look... So it's got to be...
0:27:48 > 0:27:50It's got to be the X. X marks the spot.
0:27:50 > 0:27:52Yeah, I think it's the X, yeah.
0:27:52 > 0:27:54You think it is too? Yeah. I'm going to go with it.
0:27:54 > 0:27:58Are we cool with that? Yeah, X. X marks our spot.
0:27:58 > 0:28:00The panel thinks it's the only European country
0:28:00 > 0:28:02with an X in its name.
0:28:04 > 0:28:06So, they're pretty sure.
0:28:06 > 0:28:07X marks the spot.
0:28:07 > 0:28:10Um, I... This is why I need a caravan,
0:28:10 > 0:28:14because I need to tour Europe and find Luxembourg and Switzerland.
0:28:14 > 0:28:17I really can't place it visually on a map.
0:28:17 > 0:28:20And I also cannot think of another European country
0:28:20 > 0:28:22with an X in its name.
0:28:22 > 0:28:26So I am going to agree but I will kick myself
0:28:26 > 0:28:28if the answer, you come up and tell me
0:28:28 > 0:28:30there's a European country with an X.
0:28:30 > 0:28:33Don't worry, you don't need to kick yourself, we have a panel.
0:28:33 > 0:28:35You can kick us instead.
0:28:35 > 0:28:36OK.
0:28:36 > 0:28:42For ?500, you say Luxembourg is the only European country
0:28:42 > 0:28:44with an X in its name.
0:28:45 > 0:28:47The correct statement is:
0:28:50 > 0:28:54It is the only European country... Yeah! We're back.
0:28:54 > 0:28:55Phew!
0:28:59 > 0:29:01Well done, panel. It borders
0:29:01 > 0:29:04Belgium, Germany and France.
0:29:04 > 0:29:06At only 998 square miles,
0:29:06 > 0:29:09Luxembourg is actually smaller than Oxfordshire.
0:29:09 > 0:29:14And ?500, we are now up to ?1,500... Fantastic. ..in the prize pot.
0:29:14 > 0:29:15Fantastic.
0:29:15 > 0:29:17APPLAUSE
0:29:17 > 0:29:19Here comes question two.
0:29:47 > 0:29:50Have you read the Harry Potter books? Absolutely.
0:29:50 > 0:29:54Absolutely, I've read them to two sets of children. Aww!
0:29:54 > 0:29:57I'm just trying to think about the release date of Harry Potter,
0:29:57 > 0:30:01because I... my son, I think,
0:30:01 > 0:30:04was about seven or eight years old then.
0:30:04 > 0:30:06And I think The Da Vinci code,
0:30:06 > 0:30:09I remember reading on a beach in Spain once when he was a bit older.
0:30:09 > 0:30:14Don't worry, we don't need an answer yet. I'm not sure.
0:30:14 > 0:30:16Oh, yes, we do! Give us a clue.
0:30:16 > 0:30:19I'm afraid we can't give you a clue, but we can give you some time
0:30:19 > 0:30:21and the time for that debate starts now.
0:30:23 > 0:30:24Did she turn down a damehood?
0:30:24 > 0:30:27I don't know, but I've never heard of her...
0:30:27 > 0:30:31We don't say Dame J, Dame Rowling, do we? No, she's not.
0:30:31 > 0:30:34I'm pretty certain that she is ranked higher than the Queen
0:30:34 > 0:30:36on the Sunday Times Rich List. Yeah.
0:30:36 > 0:30:38Because at one point, not any more,
0:30:38 > 0:30:42but she was the richest self-made woman in this country at one point.
0:30:42 > 0:30:44The Queen is hardly self-made.
0:30:44 > 0:30:47No, no, no, my point is, she WAS. Oh, I'm sorry.
0:30:47 > 0:30:50I remember thinking the Queen was quite low on this year's Rich List.
0:30:50 > 0:30:53The Queen's like, sort of 300... Barely rubbing along!
0:30:53 > 0:30:55Exactly. On 300 million or so.
0:30:55 > 0:30:58Couple of coppers in her pockets. Exactly.
0:30:58 > 0:31:01She was the first author, female author to make one billion,
0:31:01 > 0:31:02wasn't she? Yeah. $1 billion.
0:31:02 > 0:31:05I just don't know about The Da Vinci code.
0:31:05 > 0:31:08That's one of the most dreadful books ever written.
0:31:08 > 0:31:10I enjoyed it! I loved it.
0:31:10 > 0:31:13They were all released in the '90s.
0:31:13 > 0:31:16The first one must have been released in the mid-'90s.
0:31:16 > 0:31:19I would say. What do you think?
0:31:19 > 0:31:22You decide. You decide. No, I'm not going to decide! Come on.
0:31:22 > 0:31:27It's a collegiate thing. Rich List. Rich List? Da Vinci.
0:31:27 > 0:31:30Oh, all right, I'll go with Rich List. OK? It's more interesting.
0:31:30 > 0:31:32It is, isn't it?
0:31:32 > 0:31:35The panel, entirely on the basis that it's more interesting,
0:31:35 > 0:31:38rather than knowing it, are going for the fact that
0:31:38 > 0:31:41she actually seems to be richer than the Queen.
0:31:41 > 0:31:43Hmm.
0:31:43 > 0:31:46So, has Hogwarts brought in more money than Buckingham Palace?
0:31:46 > 0:31:48That is the question, Helen.
0:31:48 > 0:31:53Yeah, I'm going to have to go with June's thought that
0:31:53 > 0:31:57she is richer than the Queen at this current time.
0:31:57 > 0:32:01So, you are going with June's suggestion that she is ranked
0:32:01 > 0:32:05higher than the Queen in the Sunday Times Rich List. For ?500,
0:32:05 > 0:32:06is C the correct answer?
0:32:10 > 0:32:12It is the correct answer!
0:32:12 > 0:32:17Well done, June, well done. Well done, thank you. Well played.
0:32:17 > 0:32:21JK Rowling's wealth is estimated at 600 million.
0:32:22 > 0:32:27Compared to the Queen who is just 340 million. Ooh!
0:32:27 > 0:32:30Rowling was awarded an OBE, not a damehood,
0:32:30 > 0:32:34in 2001 and the first Harry Potter book was published in 1997,
0:32:34 > 0:32:38way before you were on that beach with The Da Vinci Code in,
0:32:38 > 0:32:42when was that holiday in Spain? 2003.
0:32:42 > 0:32:44So, well done, we're still smiling,
0:32:44 > 0:32:46that's another 500 quid added to the prize pot.
0:32:46 > 0:32:49You are now up to a new total of ?2,000.
0:32:49 > 0:32:50APPLAUSE
0:32:53 > 0:32:54Yeah.
0:32:55 > 0:32:59OK, the final question before final debate, you're on ?2,000.
0:32:59 > 0:33:03500 to play for, let's see if we get this up to 2,500.
0:33:03 > 0:33:06That would be amazing. Here we go.
0:33:29 > 0:33:32The look of horror on my face. I was hoping...
0:33:32 > 0:33:34The look of horror on our panel's faces!
0:33:34 > 0:33:38I was hoping, "Is not made of cheese" would come up. Oh!
0:33:40 > 0:33:45I would say that all the craters are named after monarchs at this stage,
0:33:45 > 0:33:48because I'm sure you can see more than 59%.
0:33:48 > 0:33:50Or maybe not, thinking full moon, you only see the half of it,
0:33:50 > 0:33:54don't you? I don't know. Helen doesn't know.
0:33:54 > 0:33:57Let's see, panel, if we get Helen up to 2,500.
0:33:57 > 0:33:59Over to you guys, your debate starts now.
0:33:59 > 0:34:02I think we can reach an answer to this with rigorous
0:34:02 > 0:34:04intellectual examination. Have you got a clue?
0:34:04 > 0:34:09It's a really tricky one. Because it makes me feel unbelievably ignorant.
0:34:09 > 0:34:13It does, yes. Shall we try some logic? Yes, go on.
0:34:13 > 0:34:16Is it likely that all the craters are named after monarchs?
0:34:16 > 0:34:18I mean, how many monarchs are there around? No.
0:34:18 > 0:34:22And did the Brits have a monopoly... Exactly. ..of naming craters?
0:34:22 > 0:34:24Why should they? That seems inherently unlikely.
0:34:24 > 0:34:27And very imperialist. Now, is it cold all over?
0:34:27 > 0:34:31It's got to be cold up there. Well... Down there.
0:34:31 > 0:34:34Yeah, but the sun is shining full-on. Hardly any atmosphere.
0:34:34 > 0:34:38Doesn't, doesn't the one side of it which is in the sunlight warm up?
0:34:38 > 0:34:42Well, why isn't it warm and sunny? Why doesn't it have trees and oases?
0:34:42 > 0:34:44Why aren't we having our package holidays there?
0:34:44 > 0:34:47You think, when the sun is on it, it might not be that cold.
0:34:47 > 0:34:50Shirtsleeves weather. But they get their barbecues out.
0:34:50 > 0:34:52Yeah. We'll have to ask Neil Armstrong.
0:34:52 > 0:34:55And the fact that Neil Armstrong stepped out of the spacecraft
0:34:55 > 0:34:58in his swimming trunks. That's if you believe that he did.
0:34:58 > 0:35:00Well, of course, he was in a backlot in Nevada!
0:35:00 > 0:35:04It's got to be the middle one then, 59%.
0:35:04 > 0:35:07Because maybe you see all of that and then a bit round the edge.
0:35:07 > 0:35:10Well, it's a globe, so you kind of... Yeah.
0:35:10 > 0:35:13Kind of see that bit of it, don't you? I'm going with the 59%.
0:35:13 > 0:35:17I think it's only 59%. Are you happy to go along with that, June?
0:35:17 > 0:35:20Are you happy to go along with that, Rachel? Yes, I am.
0:35:20 > 0:35:23We think that the correct, the only correct answer is that
0:35:23 > 0:35:26only 59% of the moon can be seen from the Earth.
0:35:27 > 0:35:30Does it have all its craters named after monarchs?
0:35:30 > 0:35:32That's what you thought.
0:35:32 > 0:35:35Has the panel swayed you towards something else, Helen?
0:35:35 > 0:35:39I think, I mean, you know, Britain can't claim ownership over the moon.
0:35:39 > 0:35:44But also I can't name a single crater at all, which is,
0:35:44 > 0:35:46you know, something of a gap in my knowledge.
0:35:46 > 0:35:48I'm struggling with this one, I really am.
0:35:48 > 0:35:52I'm going to say that
0:35:52 > 0:35:54the moon is cold all over.
0:35:54 > 0:35:57Brave! Brave!
0:35:57 > 0:36:01OK. Or stupid. You are disagreeing with the panel.
0:36:01 > 0:36:05They have said only 59% of it can be seen from Earth.
0:36:05 > 0:36:10You believe, Helen, that it is cold all over.
0:36:10 > 0:36:13For ?500, to get our prize pot up to 2,500,
0:36:13 > 0:36:16is C the correct answer?
0:36:20 > 0:36:24Oh, dear! It was B. You should have gone the panel. I should have.
0:36:24 > 0:36:27Well, we can't glory in it, can we? No. Can't glory in it.
0:36:27 > 0:36:31We wanted you to win. Not with Helen's disappointment.
0:36:31 > 0:36:33No, I'm not disappointed. We can't take any pleasure from it.
0:36:33 > 0:36:36You are hiding the fact that you're glorying in it
0:36:36 > 0:36:39very, very well, Michael. Yes!
0:36:39 > 0:36:42We won't say I told you so.
0:36:42 > 0:36:45Well done. Apparently, because the Moon rotates only once
0:36:45 > 0:36:48during each revolution around the Earth,
0:36:48 > 0:36:54we can only see a maximum 59% of the moon's surface over time.
0:36:54 > 0:36:56All the craters are actually named after scholars,
0:36:56 > 0:37:00scientists and explorers. Because the Yanks got there first,
0:37:00 > 0:37:03there's quite a lot of things named after Americans up there. OK.
0:37:03 > 0:37:09Temperature reaches 260 degrees Fahrenheit at the lunar crater.
0:37:09 > 0:37:11Oh, that's T-shirt weather.
0:37:11 > 0:37:14Where even you would take off a jumper, Helen!
0:37:14 > 0:37:18So, at the end of round three,
0:37:18 > 0:37:21we got that question wrong but you still got to a great prize pot.
0:37:21 > 0:37:23You're going to be playing for ?2,000.
0:37:23 > 0:37:26APPLAUSE
0:37:29 > 0:37:31So, if you win the ?2,000,
0:37:31 > 0:37:34it's a new caravan and some home heating oil, is that right?
0:37:34 > 0:37:39Just go with the caravan and I'm going to tour Europe in it.
0:37:39 > 0:37:42And starting with Luxembourg? Possibly. Or possibly not.
0:37:42 > 0:37:45Well, Helen, look, there's just one question that stands between
0:37:45 > 0:37:49you and the ?2,000 and that is today's final debate.
0:37:49 > 0:37:52In the final debate, you will face one question.
0:37:52 > 0:37:56The question will have six possible answers but only three are correct.
0:37:56 > 0:37:58To win, you've got to identify all three.
0:37:58 > 0:38:01As before, you're not going to playing alone, though.
0:38:01 > 0:38:04This is the final debate, we're going to make it a little bit tricky
0:38:04 > 0:38:09by allowing you to access just one of our celebrities on the panel.
0:38:09 > 0:38:13So you and your celebrity will have 45 seconds to debate
0:38:13 > 0:38:15and give me your answer.
0:38:15 > 0:38:16So, based on that, Helen,
0:38:16 > 0:38:19and based on the performance of our panel today,
0:38:19 > 0:38:21who would you like to join you in the final debate?
0:38:24 > 0:38:26They've all been very strong, actually,
0:38:26 > 0:38:29this is a very difficult decision because I think that they've done
0:38:29 > 0:38:32some stunning work, to be honest.
0:38:32 > 0:38:37Based on confidence and certainty of some of the answers given,
0:38:37 > 0:38:39I'm going to choose Rachel.
0:38:39 > 0:38:42So, Rachel, would you please join us as we play today's final debate?
0:38:42 > 0:38:45APPLAUSE
0:38:49 > 0:38:52So, Rachel, Helen has chosen you to help her in the final debate.
0:38:52 > 0:38:56I can sense that you are honoured, excited and ready to go. I am.
0:38:56 > 0:38:58I don't want to let her down because I'm worried that
0:38:58 > 0:39:02she's not going to get the caravan to Luxembourg if I get this wrong.
0:39:02 > 0:39:04Because we're so nice here at Debatable,
0:39:04 > 0:39:07we're going to give you two categories. OK. But which to choose?
0:39:07 > 0:39:10So have a look at this. The categories in today's final debate.
0:39:10 > 0:39:12We have:
0:39:17 > 0:39:20Well... Well, I'm not very good at marriage.
0:39:20 > 0:39:22My record's not great either.
0:39:23 > 0:39:26I think it's going to have to be newspapers.
0:39:26 > 0:39:28I think it will have to be newspapers.
0:39:28 > 0:39:32So, Helen, you've chosen newspapers. Yes.
0:39:32 > 0:39:37For ?2,000, with 45 seconds on the clock,
0:39:37 > 0:39:40here is today's final debate question.
0:39:57 > 0:39:59High. High.
0:40:00 > 0:40:02No.
0:40:02 > 0:40:04Ohh!
0:40:04 > 0:40:07So, Helen and Rachel, for the final time today,
0:40:07 > 0:40:11your 45 seconds starts now.
0:40:11 > 0:40:15It was really interesting when the newspapers came up that we were
0:40:15 > 0:40:18quite similar in what we identified as high almost immediately.
0:40:18 > 0:40:21So we both said Daily Mail, for sure.
0:40:21 > 0:40:23Well, The Sun is the highest selling tabloid. Still?
0:40:23 > 0:40:26Yeah, and then The Mail.
0:40:26 > 0:40:29The Mirror,.. And it's... And The Times, do you think?
0:40:29 > 0:40:31The Mirror used to, I'm not sure, I think...
0:40:31 > 0:40:33The Times combined readership,
0:40:33 > 0:40:36print and online, is 400,000.
0:40:36 > 0:40:40The Telegraph I think is dipping below the times but I'm not sure,
0:40:40 > 0:40:45because it's paywalled, I'm getting a bit detailed here, whether
0:40:45 > 0:40:50the print circulation has dipped below The Times' PRINT circulation.
0:40:50 > 0:40:53And I haven't got a clue what The Mirror is.
0:40:53 > 0:40:56I still think The Mirror is traditionally a popular paper.
0:40:56 > 0:41:00Yeah, OK. Time is up. Helen, we need an answer.
0:41:00 > 0:41:05The three newspapers with the highest daily print readership.
0:41:05 > 0:41:09I'm going to say The Sun,
0:41:09 > 0:41:12the Daily Mirror, and the Daily Mail.
0:41:13 > 0:41:15OK, the question, Helen, was:
0:41:19 > 0:41:22?2,000 up for grabs in the prize pot.
0:41:22 > 0:41:25First of all you went with The Sun.
0:41:25 > 0:41:28Is The Sun a correct answer?
0:41:32 > 0:41:35It is.
0:41:36 > 0:41:41You were right, Rachel, it's the highest circulation, 1.7 million.
0:41:41 > 0:41:44Next you said Daily Mail.
0:41:44 > 0:41:47Is Daily Mail one of the three newspapers with the highest
0:41:47 > 0:41:49daily print circulation in Britain?
0:41:53 > 0:41:55It is.
0:41:57 > 0:42:02Just below The Sun, 1.6 million print copies a day.
0:42:02 > 0:42:06You then chose Daily Mirror. This was the tricky one.
0:42:06 > 0:42:08The one you weren't really sure about.
0:42:08 > 0:42:12I know it used to... You were torn between The Times and The Mirror.
0:42:12 > 0:42:14You finally plumped for The Mirror. Yeah.
0:42:14 > 0:42:17If this is correct, you leave with ?2,000.
0:42:17 > 0:42:20If it's wrong, I'm afraid you leave with nothing, Helen,
0:42:20 > 0:42:22so best of luck, here we go. Thank you.
0:42:22 > 0:42:27For ?2,000, is the Daily Mirror the correct answer?
0:42:34 > 0:42:36CHEERING It's right!
0:42:38 > 0:42:40Yeah!
0:42:40 > 0:42:41Well played! Thank you!
0:42:41 > 0:42:46You've just won ?2,000. Where are we going in the caravan?
0:42:46 > 0:42:48We're going to Luxembourg, Paddy!
0:42:48 > 0:42:52We are going to Luxembourg in a caravan. I will pack the dog.
0:42:52 > 0:42:57Well played. The Sun, approximately 1.78 million,
0:42:57 > 0:43:03the Daily Mail, 1.6 million, the Daily Mirror, 826,000.
0:43:03 > 0:43:08How are you feeling? Thrilled, I can start looking at caravans now.
0:43:08 > 0:43:12Well done, Helen, let's give her a round of applause. Thank you.
0:43:12 > 0:43:15Well played. Thank you so much.
0:43:17 > 0:43:19That is it for Debatable.
0:43:19 > 0:43:22Just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel,
0:43:22 > 0:43:24Rachel Johnson, Michael Buerk and June Sarpong.
0:43:24 > 0:43:26I do hope you enjoyed watching.
0:43:26 > 0:43:28We will see you next time for more heated debates.
0:43:28 > 0:43:30From me, for now, goodbye.