0:00:12 > 0:00:16Hello and welcome to Debatable, the quiz show where talk is cheap
0:00:16 > 0:00:19and celebrity chat can win a contestant money.
0:00:19 > 0:00:23Today, one player must answer a series of tricky questions
0:00:23 > 0:00:26to try to bag a jackpot of £2,000,
0:00:26 > 0:00:28but they're not on their own
0:00:28 > 0:00:31as they will also have a panel of celebrity brainboxes
0:00:31 > 0:00:33debating their way to the answer.
0:00:33 > 0:00:36Will they help or will they hinder?
0:00:36 > 0:00:38Well, that's Debatable, so let's meet them.
0:00:40 > 0:00:43On today's show, we have TV presenter Gethin Jones,
0:00:43 > 0:00:47we have a broadcaster and journalist Angela Rippon,
0:00:47 > 0:00:49and broadcaster Alice Levine.
0:00:52 > 0:00:54That's our panel, let's see who's playing today.
0:00:54 > 0:00:57It is Debbie Bleathman from Norfolk.
0:01:01 > 0:01:04- Hi, Patrick.- How are you doing? - Not too bad, thank you.
0:01:04 > 0:01:06- Welcome to the show.- Thank you. - Tell us a bit about yourself.
0:01:06 > 0:01:11I'm 47 and I live in Norfolk with my partner, Dave, and my mum, Kate,
0:01:11 > 0:01:13and my two German shepherds.
0:01:13 > 0:01:16And you also used to work for the police, is that right?
0:01:16 > 0:01:19I did. Before I moved to Norfolk, I worked for the Metropolitan Police
0:01:19 > 0:01:23in the control room, sitting there with a little headset on.
0:01:23 > 0:01:25So, you're used to getting information
0:01:25 > 0:01:26and then telling people what to do.
0:01:26 > 0:01:28That's the idea, yes.
0:01:28 > 0:01:29This could be perfect for our panel
0:01:29 > 0:01:32because they do need to be whipped into shape.
0:01:32 > 0:01:35Debbie, best of luck, let's see if we can get this Debatable show
0:01:35 > 0:01:38on the road for you as we play Round 1.
0:01:41 > 0:01:43Debbie, this round is multiple choice.
0:01:43 > 0:01:45Each question has four possible answers,
0:01:45 > 0:01:48but only one is the correct answer.
0:01:48 > 0:01:53Helping you towards the answer is this panel of brainboxes.
0:01:53 > 0:01:55Now, you can choose to go with what they say,
0:01:55 > 0:01:58you can go your own way, it's entirely up to you.
0:01:58 > 0:02:00There's two questions in this round
0:02:00 > 0:02:02and each question is worth £200.
0:02:02 > 0:02:05- Ready to play?- Just about.- OK, Debbie, here we go. Question one.
0:02:26 > 0:02:28Oh! I think I've got an idea.
0:02:28 > 0:02:30And that idea would be?
0:02:30 > 0:02:32Possibly one of the ones with Julie Andrews in it.
0:02:33 > 0:02:36OK, so you're thinking Mary Poppins or The Sound Of Music.
0:02:36 > 0:02:39I personally think it's close between those two.
0:02:39 > 0:02:42But I'd like to see what the assorted brains have to think of it.
0:02:42 > 0:02:45They're already smiling, let's hope this is good news.
0:02:45 > 0:02:46Your debate starts now.
0:02:46 > 0:02:50I remember seeing West Side Story when I was in my very early 20s
0:02:50 > 0:02:54and sitting in the cinema and being absolutely blown away
0:02:54 > 0:02:56by that opening shot.
0:02:56 > 0:02:58- That was about 15 years ago. - Yeah, no, a bit longer than that.
0:02:58 > 0:03:02I know that The Sound Of Music came before Mary Poppins
0:03:02 > 0:03:04in Julie Andrews' career,
0:03:04 > 0:03:06so at least we can put those in that order.
0:03:06 > 0:03:10Oliver! started out on the stage, yes.
0:03:10 > 0:03:12So... But when?
0:03:12 > 0:03:15I think after West Side Story.
0:03:15 > 0:03:17I think they came later.
0:03:17 > 0:03:20- I'm pretty certain that they came later.- What do you reckon?
0:03:20 > 0:03:22I remember going to Vermont and New Hampshire once
0:03:22 > 0:03:26to make maple syrup, and afterwards, I met the Von Trapp family.
0:03:26 > 0:03:27Oh, get you!
0:03:27 > 0:03:30- And I played the piano and they sang around the piano.- What?
0:03:30 > 0:03:33I don't if that's helpful at all, but I just remembered that now.
0:03:34 > 0:03:36Which one do we think came first, though?
0:03:36 > 0:03:39- It's got to be West Side Story.- I'm pretty certain it's West Side Story.
0:03:39 > 0:03:42Well, Oliver!, the film, was in black and white, right?
0:03:42 > 0:03:44- No, it's in colour.- Is it? - Yeah, it's in colour.
0:03:44 > 0:03:47I think you're pretty confident and you remember it very clearly.
0:03:47 > 0:03:49- What do you reckon?- I agree with West Side Story.- OK.
0:03:49 > 0:03:53So, collectively, we believe that West Side Story was the first
0:03:53 > 0:03:55of those musicals to be put on film.
0:03:57 > 0:04:00You've heard what our panel say, but what do you think?
0:04:00 > 0:04:03I sort of discounted West Side Story,
0:04:03 > 0:04:07but now thinking about it,
0:04:07 > 0:04:09with Julie Andrews' ones being in colour
0:04:09 > 0:04:14and being '50s,
0:04:14 > 0:04:16I have a feeling they might be right
0:04:16 > 0:04:18and I think I might have to plump with West Side Story.
0:04:19 > 0:04:23So, our panel has managed to change your mind,
0:04:23 > 0:04:24you're going to go with them.
0:04:24 > 0:04:27West Side Story to get you up and running.
0:04:27 > 0:04:30For £200, is West Side Story the correct answer?
0:04:35 > 0:04:38It is the correct answer!
0:04:39 > 0:04:42Well done, team. Well worked out, Debbie, well done.
0:04:42 > 0:04:44- So, £200 in the prize pot.- Great.
0:04:49 > 0:04:51Here's your next question, Debbie.
0:05:13 > 0:05:17I've got a theory it might be the discus,
0:05:17 > 0:05:19but I'm not 100% sure.
0:05:19 > 0:05:21Will that help them?
0:05:21 > 0:05:23Your debate starts now.
0:05:23 > 0:05:27Interesting, because I know nothing about sport at all.
0:05:28 > 0:05:32It's between discus and hammer for me. And I'm going to...
0:05:32 > 0:05:35I honestly think it's the hammer. I do think it's the hammer.
0:05:35 > 0:05:37Because the discus looks sort of...
0:05:37 > 0:05:39I'm just trying to remember doing the discus at school.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41I'm not sure it's actually a weight thing
0:05:41 > 0:05:42or if it's a size thing.
0:05:44 > 0:05:47But the hammer, especially... I can remember vividly watching
0:05:47 > 0:05:52a female hammer thrower, thinking, "That's gone a long way." You know!
0:05:52 > 0:05:5575, 80 metres, maybe.
0:05:56 > 0:05:58The discus always looks to be
0:05:58 > 0:06:00kind of round about the same to me, doesn't it?
0:06:00 > 0:06:02And the shot put, similarly,
0:06:02 > 0:06:04that funny little thing that looks like a cannonball.
0:06:04 > 0:06:06It's not the javelin, definitely not the javelin.
0:06:06 > 0:06:09- The men throw that further. - I would think the hammer.
0:06:09 > 0:06:10It's a little bit of a guess, isn't it?
0:06:10 > 0:06:12But I feel like that's quite convincing,
0:06:12 > 0:06:13so I would back that answer.
0:06:15 > 0:06:17- Consensus.- I'd go hammer, not discus.
0:06:17 > 0:06:19Consensus.
0:06:19 > 0:06:22We think it is the hammer.
0:06:23 > 0:06:26Consensus from our panel, but, Debbie,
0:06:26 > 0:06:29did they bring any genuine knowledge to that debate?
0:06:29 > 0:06:34Gethin's argument is getting more and more convincing to me.
0:06:34 > 0:06:37Because the discus is not really about the weight,
0:06:37 > 0:06:38it's the technique.
0:06:38 > 0:06:39The hammer itself is...
0:06:41 > 0:06:43I'm sure the hammer is lighter for women,
0:06:43 > 0:06:47so they would be able to throw it as far, if not further than the men.
0:06:48 > 0:06:51Gethin, I do hope you're right, I'm going with hammer.
0:06:51 > 0:06:53- Don't put that pressure on me! - No pressure.
0:06:53 > 0:06:57You're changing your mind, you're going with the panel.
0:06:57 > 0:06:59Best of luck, everybody, here we go.
0:06:59 > 0:07:02For £200, is hammer the correct answer?
0:07:07 > 0:07:09- Oh, no!- Ah!
0:07:09 > 0:07:12You should have stuck with your instincts.
0:07:12 > 0:07:13I am so sorry!
0:07:13 > 0:07:16- Gethin, what are you doing, man? - I feel terrible.
0:07:16 > 0:07:18I'm so sorry.
0:07:18 > 0:07:19It's the discus,
0:07:19 > 0:07:23the women's record is almost three metres longer than the men's.
0:07:23 > 0:07:27The size and weight of the discus differs significantly.
0:07:27 > 0:07:30The men's discus must not weigh less than 2kg,
0:07:30 > 0:07:32the women's discus weighs a kilogram.
0:07:32 > 0:07:35Unfortunately, you didn't manage to get that question correct,
0:07:35 > 0:07:38but at the end of that round, you have banked £200.
0:07:43 > 0:07:48So, Debbie, one correct for our panel, one wrong for our panel.
0:07:48 > 0:07:52Who do we think is performing best between Angela and Alice?
0:07:52 > 0:07:54LAUGHTER
0:07:55 > 0:07:58- Don't make me choose! - "Don't make me choose."
0:07:58 > 0:08:01You are going to have to choose at the end of the show because
0:08:01 > 0:08:04only one of them can actually play today's final debate,
0:08:04 > 0:08:05so keep an eye on them.
0:08:05 > 0:08:07We'll be coming back to you on that one.
0:08:07 > 0:08:10So, let's see how our panel cope with pictures,
0:08:10 > 0:08:11it's time for Round 2.
0:08:14 > 0:08:16Debbie, Round 2 is our picture round.
0:08:16 > 0:08:19All you have to do is place three pictures in order.
0:08:19 > 0:08:23There are two questions in this round and it's 300 quid up for grabs
0:08:23 > 0:08:24for each correct answer.
0:08:24 > 0:08:28So, best of luck, let's see if we can get the cash up. Here it comes.
0:08:44 > 0:08:46What's your first thoughts?
0:08:46 > 0:08:49I don't think there's a great deal in it, to be honest.
0:08:51 > 0:08:56I might be leaning towards the panel and their music knowledge
0:08:56 > 0:08:58to dig me out of this one.
0:08:58 > 0:09:02OK, panel, let's see if you can shed any light on this one.
0:09:02 > 0:09:04Your debate time starts now.
0:09:04 > 0:09:07I always think that Springsteen looks as if he's got enough
0:09:07 > 0:09:10lines on his face to be an Ordnance Survey map.
0:09:10 > 0:09:12I mean, he's just got that aged look about him.
0:09:12 > 0:09:13It kind of suits him, doesn't it?
0:09:13 > 0:09:17- There's no lines on Dolly's face, that's for sure.- Dolly looks great.
0:09:17 > 0:09:20Elton looks...old.
0:09:20 > 0:09:24- Elton's had so many looks, though, across the years.- I know!
0:09:24 > 0:09:26He's had so many stylised looks.
0:09:26 > 0:09:28He must have got his
0:09:28 > 0:09:30- bus pass recently. - What, Springsteen?- Yeah.
0:09:30 > 0:09:32You think he's quite youngish?
0:09:32 > 0:09:35- You think he's only in his 60s? - Mid 60s.
0:09:35 > 0:09:38- Elton?- I think maybe all 70s. - I think they're all in their 70s.
0:09:38 > 0:09:41Bruce is not... The Boss is not 70.
0:09:41 > 0:09:44- Is he not?- No. - You say that with such conviction.
0:09:44 > 0:09:45I'm as sure
0:09:45 > 0:09:47- as I was about the hammer. - THEY LAUGH
0:09:49 > 0:09:52They're all singers, they're all presumably still played on Radio 1.
0:09:52 > 0:09:55- I haven't played them of late. - Right.
0:09:55 > 0:09:57Gut feeling on it?
0:09:57 > 0:09:58I do think that Dolly's maybe
0:09:58 > 0:10:00older than we think she is.
0:10:00 > 0:10:05- Yeah, of course she is! I mean, I think Bruce is the youngest.- You do?
0:10:05 > 0:10:09I think he's mid-60s. Is Elton older than that?
0:10:09 > 0:10:12- I think potentially Dolly is the oldest.- She might well be, yes.
0:10:12 > 0:10:14I've seen Elton up close,
0:10:14 > 0:10:17I've not seen the other two up close, but it's difficult to tell.
0:10:17 > 0:10:20- When did you see Elton?- Do elaborate.- Up close and personal!
0:10:20 > 0:10:23- When did you meet Elton last? - When did I see him last?- Yeah.
0:10:23 > 0:10:25Oh, probably face to face,
0:10:25 > 0:10:27I probably saw him about three years ago.
0:10:27 > 0:10:28Where were you?
0:10:28 > 0:10:32What happens in the South of France stays in the South of France.
0:10:33 > 0:10:37- So, what do we reckon? Dolly is the oldest.- Let's say that.
0:10:37 > 0:10:40Elton's in the middle and Bruce is the youngest.
0:10:40 > 0:10:45The result of our debate is that Dolly is the oldest,
0:10:45 > 0:10:49Elton is somewhere in the middle and Brucie is the youngest.
0:10:51 > 0:10:54So, that's what our panel thought, but do you agree?
0:10:54 > 0:10:55Yeah, looking back,
0:10:55 > 0:10:58taking into account what the panel have said,
0:10:58 > 0:10:59I think I'm going to stick
0:10:59 > 0:11:03and go Bruce, Elton and Dolly in that order.
0:11:03 > 0:11:05OK, we're all agreed.
0:11:05 > 0:11:09Let's see, for 300 quid, is Bruce the youngest,
0:11:09 > 0:11:11then Elton, then Dolly?
0:11:16 > 0:11:19- Yay!- Is the correct order. - Well done, team.
0:11:20 > 0:11:23Well done. How about that? Well played.
0:11:23 > 0:11:26There we go, Bruce Springsteen born in 1949.
0:11:26 > 0:11:31Elton John born in '47, Dolly Parton born in '46.
0:11:31 > 0:11:33So, well played, Debbie.
0:11:33 > 0:11:34Another £300 in the prize pot,
0:11:34 > 0:11:37and that brings it up to £500.
0:11:41 > 0:11:43Let's take a look at question two.
0:11:59 > 0:12:01So, what are your first thoughts?
0:12:01 > 0:12:04I have a funny feeling it's the tomato.
0:12:05 > 0:12:08OK, so you think the tomato may be the most, but you're not sure
0:12:08 > 0:12:10- about the other two.- Not 100% sure.
0:12:10 > 0:12:13Let's see if our panel can stick these in the right order.
0:12:13 > 0:12:14Your debate starts now, guys.
0:12:14 > 0:12:17You're the cook amongst us, Alice, what do you reckon?
0:12:17 > 0:12:18My instinct would say cucumber
0:12:18 > 0:12:21because there's actually a lot of sugar in watermelon
0:12:21 > 0:12:23and in tomato whereas cucumber
0:12:23 > 0:12:27has the least sugary flavour.
0:12:27 > 0:12:29- Got the least flavour. - Least flavour, yes.
0:12:29 > 0:12:33- And we think that's got the most. - That's the science bit.
0:12:33 > 0:12:35- That's got the most?- I think so.
0:12:35 > 0:12:37We're going to put that one up that end.
0:12:37 > 0:12:40Initially, I thought watermelon because one, it's massive.
0:12:40 > 0:12:42And there's a kind of clue in the name, isn't there?
0:12:42 > 0:12:45But I'm not so sure because when you think about
0:12:45 > 0:12:47tomatoes...
0:12:47 > 0:12:49- Soggy sandwiches with tomatoes. - Oh, yes, oh, yes!
0:12:49 > 0:12:52If you're in need of refreshment, though,
0:12:52 > 0:12:54you'd have a slice of watermelon over a slice of tomato.
0:12:54 > 0:12:57- See, we think that's got more water in it.- I would say.
0:12:57 > 0:13:01Actually, it probably has, you see, cos when you squish them down,
0:13:01 > 0:13:03there's not a lot of pulp left, is there?
0:13:03 > 0:13:05- True.- A huge amount of water comes out.
0:13:05 > 0:13:06That's why you get good tomato juice.
0:13:06 > 0:13:09Because you squish them and you get lots of good juice out.
0:13:09 > 0:13:12I'm happy with cucumber, I'm not sure about the other two.
0:13:12 > 0:13:14So, do we think there's more water in a watermelon
0:13:14 > 0:13:16than there is in a tomato?
0:13:16 > 0:13:19I wonder if the water in a watermelon is a bit of
0:13:19 > 0:13:21a red herring here.
0:13:22 > 0:13:25Well, actually, tomatoes have got lots of water in them.
0:13:25 > 0:13:28Rather more so than watermelon, which has got lots of sugar.
0:13:28 > 0:13:32- I think it's tomato now. - You think tomato is in the middle.
0:13:32 > 0:13:35- Now I'm thinking about a cucumber skin.- You're thinking of that?
0:13:35 > 0:13:41So, we think that the one that has the least water is watermelon
0:13:41 > 0:13:44and the one in the middle is the tomato
0:13:44 > 0:13:46and the one that has the most is the cucumber.
0:13:46 > 0:13:48That's what we've decided.
0:13:48 > 0:13:50Watermelon, tomato, cucumber.
0:13:50 > 0:13:54Any sense in there? Anything to sway you?
0:13:54 > 0:13:56Cucumber sandwiches get really soggy,
0:13:56 > 0:13:58but tomatoes sandwiches get soggier.
0:13:59 > 0:14:04I think I'm going to have to turn my back upon the panel
0:14:04 > 0:14:06and go with...
0:14:06 > 0:14:09tomato being the highest water content,
0:14:09 > 0:14:16cucumber in the middle and then watermelon being the converse
0:14:16 > 0:14:19to what it says it is, not as watery.
0:14:19 > 0:14:22OK, Debbie has gone against the panel.
0:14:22 > 0:14:26Let's see, is watermelon, then cucumber,
0:14:26 > 0:14:30then tomato the right order for £300?
0:14:39 > 0:14:41It's the wrong order.
0:14:41 > 0:14:44Let's see what the correct order was, Debbie.
0:14:46 > 0:14:50It was watermelon, tomato and then cucumber.
0:14:50 > 0:14:53- The panel were actually correct. - Right.
0:14:53 > 0:14:56The watermelon, there you go, 91-92% water.
0:14:56 > 0:15:02The tomato, 94-95% and the cucumber, 96-97.
0:15:03 > 0:15:07The Roman emperor Tiberius supposedly had slaves
0:15:07 > 0:15:12wheel cucumbers around in carts so that they could catch the sun
0:15:12 > 0:15:13and grow better.
0:15:13 > 0:15:16And that's a selfie of Tiberius just there.
0:15:18 > 0:15:22Unfortunately, you didn't manage to bank 300 quid there,
0:15:22 > 0:15:24but it means, at the end of that round,
0:15:24 > 0:15:25your total is £500.
0:15:31 > 0:15:33So, there's plenty of time to make your mind up
0:15:33 > 0:15:35who's going to play the Final Debate.
0:15:35 > 0:15:37There's also £1,000 up for grabs in this round,
0:15:37 > 0:15:40so we can get that prize pot up for you.
0:15:40 > 0:15:42Here we go, it's time for Round 3.
0:15:46 > 0:15:48OK, Debbie, in this round, you'll face questions that contain
0:15:48 > 0:15:51a statement about a person, a place or a thing.
0:15:51 > 0:15:54But only one of those statements is correct.
0:15:54 > 0:15:56You have to decide which one.
0:15:56 > 0:15:58There are two questions in this round,
0:15:58 > 0:16:01and because it's our final round, we're going to up the cash
0:16:01 > 0:16:04to £500 for each correct answer, so best of luck.
0:16:04 > 0:16:07Let's see if we can get the cash up. Here it comes.
0:16:31 > 0:16:33Anything you rule out there?
0:16:34 > 0:16:38I'm immediately thinking that B might not be correct
0:16:38 > 0:16:41because Glasgow is obviously a very, very big city
0:16:41 > 0:16:45and I'm pretty sure it's more populated than Edinburgh.
0:16:45 > 0:16:49Between the other two, I was leaning towards the British Royal Mint,
0:16:49 > 0:16:53but that's more of a gut instinct thing.
0:16:53 > 0:16:55So, I'm not quite sure.
0:16:55 > 0:16:57I'm sure our panel can help you out with this one.
0:16:57 > 0:16:59Your debate starts now, guys.
0:16:59 > 0:17:02As a Welshman, you know the answer to the first one,
0:17:02 > 0:17:05- don't you?- Absolutely, I can convince you on that one cos
0:17:05 > 0:17:08we used to go there literally every three weeks on school trips.
0:17:08 > 0:17:12The Royal Mint is actually in Llantrisant, in Wales,
0:17:12 > 0:17:14so that one rules that one out, for sure.
0:17:14 > 0:17:15- But Scotland's huge.- It is.
0:17:15 > 0:17:18If you think of the Outer Hebrides, the islands.
0:17:18 > 0:17:21I mean, it's not densely populated in all of those areas,
0:17:21 > 0:17:22but the landmass is huge.
0:17:22 > 0:17:24And you got all the... You've got the Outer Hebrides,
0:17:24 > 0:17:28the Inner Hebrides, the Shetlands, you've got all of that as well,
0:17:28 > 0:17:29haven't you, all around?
0:17:30 > 0:17:32I mean, I think if you look at a map
0:17:32 > 0:17:35of Great Britain, Scotland is huge.
0:17:35 > 0:17:37It's got that bit down there.
0:17:37 > 0:17:41I think we've covered Scotland, but just Glasgow and Edinburgh.
0:17:41 > 0:17:45I think Glasgow is going to probably have more people.
0:17:45 > 0:17:48With the Commonwealth Games, they were talking about it being more...
0:17:48 > 0:17:50What, Edinburgh has got more people?
0:17:50 > 0:17:53- Glasgow is more populated than Edinburgh.- Yes.
0:17:53 > 0:17:57- I think we're all agreed on...- C. - The area, yes.- We think it's C.
0:17:57 > 0:18:02OK, so we agree that we believe that C is the correct answer.
0:18:04 > 0:18:05What do you think?
0:18:07 > 0:18:11The confirmation that the Royal Mint
0:18:11 > 0:18:14is not in Scotland helps dramatically.
0:18:14 > 0:18:17Angela mentioning, obviously, all the Highlands and islands
0:18:17 > 0:18:20and the sheer size of Scotland on the map...
0:18:22 > 0:18:24It's going to have to be C.
0:18:24 > 0:18:26So, you're going with the panel.
0:18:26 > 0:18:31We are saying, for £500, that Scotland is larger in area
0:18:31 > 0:18:33than Wales and Northern Ireland combined.
0:18:35 > 0:18:37Is it the correct statement?
0:18:42 > 0:18:45- It is the correct statement! - Well done, team.
0:18:46 > 0:18:48You were right to go with the panel.
0:18:48 > 0:18:51The Royal Mint, of course, is in Wales.
0:18:51 > 0:18:55Glasgow is the most populated city in Scotland, just under 600,000.
0:18:55 > 0:18:58Edinburgh's population is around 470,000.
0:18:58 > 0:19:02Scotland's land area is 30,000 square miles.
0:19:02 > 0:19:07The combined land area of Wales and Northern Ireland, 13,000.
0:19:07 > 0:19:1013,000 square miles if you stuck it together.
0:19:10 > 0:19:13So, £500 added to your prize pot gives you
0:19:13 > 0:19:15a new total of £1,000.
0:19:19 > 0:19:21Here comes your second question.
0:19:44 > 0:19:48- One of those is a fact, Debbie. - Righto!
0:19:50 > 0:19:56I think it might be A, but I don't know whether any of the panel
0:19:56 > 0:19:59have had cows smile at them, so I'll be intrigued to find out.
0:19:59 > 0:20:02Guys, your debate starts now, over to you.
0:20:02 > 0:20:06Well, I remember hearing years and years ago
0:20:06 > 0:20:09about an agriculture student or a veterinary student
0:20:09 > 0:20:13who had a massive grant to spend a year going around the world
0:20:13 > 0:20:18to take nose prints of sheep to see whether or not they had
0:20:18 > 0:20:22a print that was equivalent to our fingerprints.
0:20:22 > 0:20:25And after a year, she discovered no, they didn't.
0:20:28 > 0:20:33Cows chew, don't they? They chew cud, they chew a lot.
0:20:33 > 0:20:37- A cloven hoof.- They've got cloven hooves, they chew, don't they?
0:20:37 > 0:20:38- They chew the cud.- Yeah, exactly.
0:20:38 > 0:20:41- How many rows do you think they have?- Two.
0:20:41 > 0:20:43They couldn't chew if they didn't have teeth
0:20:43 > 0:20:44top and bottom, could they?
0:20:44 > 0:20:47Why would they have an odd number of toes?
0:20:47 > 0:20:48They've got cloven hooves.
0:20:48 > 0:20:51I'm just try to think what cow prints look like,
0:20:51 > 0:20:53- and I've seen them. - You're right, it's divided.
0:20:53 > 0:20:55It's cloven, like that.
0:20:55 > 0:20:57Unless you count that bit at the back.
0:20:58 > 0:21:00- Identified by their nose prints? - No way.
0:21:00 > 0:21:02Maybe not after that study that you heard about.
0:21:02 > 0:21:06We're usually told who they are by tagging the ear.
0:21:06 > 0:21:08I seem to think there's a bit at the back of the hoof
0:21:08 > 0:21:10which would make it three.
0:21:10 > 0:21:12It's got to be something to do with the toes.
0:21:12 > 0:21:15Take charge, Angela. What do you think?
0:21:15 > 0:21:18All right, we think that it may well be that cows have
0:21:18 > 0:21:21an odd number of toes on each hoof.
0:21:23 > 0:21:26So, that's what our panel thought, but do you agree?
0:21:27 > 0:21:30Being a bit of a fan of science and nature,
0:21:30 > 0:21:33all mammals originally have five toes.
0:21:34 > 0:21:38And in a lot of those animals, they have become vestigial.
0:21:38 > 0:21:41Like, horses' hooves are just one toe.
0:21:42 > 0:21:45I'd love the nose print idea to be right, but I don't think it is.
0:21:47 > 0:21:51But do they, are they counting vestigial toes on each hoof?
0:21:56 > 0:21:58I'm going to go with the nose print.
0:21:58 > 0:22:00I don't know why, I'm going with the nose print.
0:22:00 > 0:22:04Because I'm sure cloven hooves are just two
0:22:04 > 0:22:06and the little vestigial ones don't count
0:22:06 > 0:22:08because they don't touch the ground.
0:22:08 > 0:22:10- I'm going to have to go with nose print.- OK.
0:22:12 > 0:22:14You have gone against our panel.
0:22:14 > 0:22:18Can cows be identified by their nose print? For £500.
0:22:25 > 0:22:26They can!
0:22:29 > 0:22:30Well played.
0:22:30 > 0:22:33- Don't know where that came from. - Very well done.
0:22:33 > 0:22:34That's incredible!
0:22:34 > 0:22:37Cows are even-toed mammals.
0:22:37 > 0:22:40Cows have two rows of teeth.
0:22:40 > 0:22:45Cow nose-printing is an old method of identifying cattle,
0:22:45 > 0:22:47but it actually does work.
0:22:47 > 0:22:49- Each cow has distinct ridges, there they are.- Really?
0:22:49 > 0:22:54On their nose, the pattern of the ridges is different on each cow.
0:22:54 > 0:22:58And so, from that picture, I can tell that that is Jack.
0:23:01 > 0:23:04So, Debbie, well played, you went against the panel.
0:23:04 > 0:23:08It was a good decision, it puts another £500 in the prize pot,
0:23:08 > 0:23:10and so at the end of Round 3,
0:23:10 > 0:23:12- you have £1,500.- Wow.
0:23:12 > 0:23:14Thank you.
0:23:16 > 0:23:19And that's the amount that you're going to be playing for
0:23:19 > 0:23:20in today's Final Debate.
0:23:20 > 0:23:22What do you think you will do with the money?
0:23:22 > 0:23:26I have to spend the money buying a new hip for one of my dogs.
0:23:27 > 0:23:29- AUDIENCE:- Aw!
0:23:29 > 0:23:31Absolutely no pressure on our panel.
0:23:31 > 0:23:33There is a dog limp at stake.
0:23:35 > 0:23:36Debbie, best of luck.
0:23:36 > 0:23:39There is one question that stands between you and that £1,500,
0:23:39 > 0:23:43and that is today's Final Debate where you will face one question.
0:23:43 > 0:23:46That question will have six possible answers but only three are correct.
0:23:46 > 0:23:50In order to win the money, we need all three answers.
0:23:50 > 0:23:52As before, though, you're not going to be playing alone.
0:23:52 > 0:23:55It is the Final Debate, we're going to give you the choice of
0:23:55 > 0:23:59one of these magnificent brains to play with you.
0:23:59 > 0:24:02You and your celebrity will then have 45 seconds
0:24:02 > 0:24:03to debate the question.
0:24:03 > 0:24:06So, who would you like to join you for the Final Debate?
0:24:10 > 0:24:13I think, just for the sheer breadth of knowledge...
0:24:15 > 0:24:16..Angela, please.
0:24:16 > 0:24:18OK, Angela.
0:24:18 > 0:24:22Would you please join us as we play the Final Debate?
0:24:25 > 0:24:29So Angela, Debbie has put her faith in you for the Final Debate.
0:24:29 > 0:24:32- She's put a limping dog in my hat. - Yes, she has!
0:24:32 > 0:24:35- Absolutely no pressure here. - Not at all!
0:24:35 > 0:24:37OK, well, because it is the Final Debate,
0:24:37 > 0:24:40we're going to give you two categories, Debbie.
0:24:40 > 0:24:42- Good.- From which to choose. Here they are.
0:24:48 > 0:24:50I know where I'm leaning, I have to say.
0:24:50 > 0:24:52- Which one?- Human body.
0:24:53 > 0:24:57It's your choice and I will do my best to support you.
0:24:57 > 0:25:01I am going to have to go with Human Body, please, Paddy.
0:25:01 > 0:25:04- OK, you're going with Human Body, Debbie.- Sorry.
0:25:04 > 0:25:06So, for £1,500,
0:25:06 > 0:25:09here comes your Final Debate question.
0:25:35 > 0:25:41So, Debbie and Angela, for the final time today, your debate starts now.
0:25:41 > 0:25:44- Coccyx back of the spine, I know that.- Yes.
0:25:44 > 0:25:47Medulla oblongata I think is a bone.
0:25:49 > 0:25:53I'm just trying to think. I know cerebellum definitely is.
0:25:53 > 0:25:55- Coccyx, as you say, is the tail bone.- Yes.
0:25:55 > 0:25:59- Ileum, I have a funny feeling that's something to do with the...- Stomach.
0:25:59 > 0:26:02Digestive system. Malleus, sounds like a mallet.
0:26:02 > 0:26:05- Is that something to do with the ear?- There is a mallet.
0:26:05 > 0:26:08There's a....
0:26:08 > 0:26:09There is a tiny bone inside the ear,
0:26:09 > 0:26:11which is actually called something else
0:26:11 > 0:26:13but I'll remember in a minute.
0:26:13 > 0:26:14Stirrup.
0:26:14 > 0:26:16- Pons...- Pons I think must be.
0:26:16 > 0:26:18Because we need to find three.
0:26:19 > 0:26:22I have a feeling medulla oblongata is part of the brain.
0:26:22 > 0:26:26- It's part of the brain?- I think it's something along the back of the...
0:26:26 > 0:26:27- Back of the head?- Time up.
0:26:29 > 0:26:31So, Debbie, I need an answer.
0:26:31 > 0:26:33The three parts of the human brain are...
0:26:35 > 0:26:38Cerebellum, definitely.
0:26:38 > 0:26:41Medulla oblongata, I'm pretty sure.
0:26:41 > 0:26:44I'm going to go with pons.
0:26:44 > 0:26:49That is the one I'm not sure about, but it sounds the most likely.
0:26:51 > 0:26:54- Best of luck, Debbie. - Thank you.- £1,500 up for grabs.
0:26:54 > 0:26:57First of all, you said the cerebellum
0:26:57 > 0:26:59was part of the human brain.
0:26:59 > 0:27:00Is that the correct answer?
0:27:06 > 0:27:09- Yes!- It is.
0:27:09 > 0:27:14Cerebellum, it's the part of the brain that deals with movement.
0:27:14 > 0:27:17You then went for the medulla oblongata.
0:27:18 > 0:27:21Is that a correct answer, to keep us on track?
0:27:28 > 0:27:31It is the correct answer.
0:27:31 > 0:27:34It's the lowest part of the brain.
0:27:34 > 0:27:35You then weren't sure.
0:27:35 > 0:27:39You took a bit of time over this, you went for pons.
0:27:39 > 0:27:42Is pons, for 1,500, part of the human brain?
0:27:52 > 0:27:54Hey!
0:27:54 > 0:27:57- Well done! Well played, Debbie. - Thank you!
0:27:57 > 0:27:59- Well done.- Thank you.
0:27:59 > 0:28:01- Congratulations.- Well done. - Thank you.
0:28:01 > 0:28:03Well played, Angela.
0:28:03 > 0:28:06The pons is actually part of the brain stem.
0:28:06 > 0:28:07So, well played,
0:28:07 > 0:28:11you identified our three answers and you leave today with £1,500.
0:28:15 > 0:28:17Wow!
0:28:17 > 0:28:19That is it for Debatable,
0:28:19 > 0:28:22it's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel today.
0:28:22 > 0:28:25To Angela Rippon, to Gethin Jones and Alice Levine.
0:28:28 > 0:28:30I do hope you've enjoy watching
0:28:30 > 0:28:32and we will see you next time for more heated debates.
0:28:32 > 0:28:34For now, it's goodbye from me.