Episode 6

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0:00:12 > 0:00:17Hello and welcome to Debatable, the quiz show where talk is cheap,

0:00:17 > 0:00:20but celebrity chat can win a contestant money.

0:00:20 > 0:00:24Today, one player must answer a series of tricky questions

0:00:24 > 0:00:29to try to bag our jackpot of £2,000, but they're not on their own

0:00:29 > 0:00:32as they'll also have a panel of celebrity brainboxes

0:00:32 > 0:00:34debating their way to the answer.

0:00:34 > 0:00:36Will they help or will they hinder?

0:00:36 > 0:00:39Well, that's debatable, so let's meet them.

0:00:39 > 0:00:41On today's show, we have

0:00:41 > 0:00:44actress Sunetra Sarker,

0:00:44 > 0:00:47we have weather presenter Carol Kirkwood

0:00:47 > 0:00:49and writer and broadcaster, Rick Edwards.

0:00:55 > 0:00:58That's our panel, let's meet today's contestant.

0:00:58 > 0:01:00It is Magid El-Bushra from London.

0:01:03 > 0:01:05Welcome to the show.

0:01:05 > 0:01:06Tell us a bit about yourself.

0:01:06 > 0:01:12I'm 36, I'm from London. I'm an opera singer and...

0:01:12 > 0:01:16Whoa! You can't just roll on from that one. You're an opera singer?

0:01:16 > 0:01:19Yeah, I'm a countertenor which is a little bit higher than a tenor.

0:01:19 > 0:01:21I've been doing that for many, many years.

0:01:21 > 0:01:23- Well, we have to hear this, don't we?- Yes, definitely.

0:01:23 > 0:01:27Don't worry, we'll give you the big intro. So, panel, here he is.

0:01:27 > 0:01:31We need three yeses for him to go through to the next round.

0:01:31 > 0:01:32Off you go, Magid.

0:01:32 > 0:01:35HE SINGS OPERATICALLY

0:01:46 > 0:01:50- APPLAUSE - Yes! Yes!- Wowee.

0:01:50 > 0:01:53That look was four people who actually pretend they have talent,

0:01:53 > 0:01:56looking at someone who genuinely has!

0:01:56 > 0:02:00- Well done! OK, look, we wish you the best of luck.- Thank you.

0:02:00 > 0:02:03Lots of cash up there for grabs and we hope you get it today.

0:02:03 > 0:02:06So, let's get this Debatable show on the road as we play Round 1.

0:02:09 > 0:02:11Magid, this round is multiple choice.

0:02:11 > 0:02:14Each question has four possible answers,

0:02:14 > 0:02:16but only one of those is correct.

0:02:16 > 0:02:21Helping you, apparently, find the correct answer is our panel.

0:02:21 > 0:02:24Will you go with what they say or will you go your own way?

0:02:24 > 0:02:28It's entirely up to you. There are two questions in this round.

0:02:28 > 0:02:30Each correct answer is worth £200.

0:02:30 > 0:02:31- Ready to play?- Let's do it.

0:02:31 > 0:02:34OK, let's do it. Here we go, first question.

0:02:51 > 0:02:53How is your sports knowledge?

0:02:53 > 0:02:55Next to zero.

0:02:56 > 0:02:58But the phrase has hands in it.

0:03:00 > 0:03:02I'm going with boxing or fencing at the moment.

0:03:02 > 0:03:04You're thinking boxing or fencing.

0:03:04 > 0:03:08Let's see if our panel can tussle this one out.

0:03:08 > 0:03:10Panel, your debate starts now.

0:03:10 > 0:03:12- This is a hard one.- Well...

0:03:12 > 0:03:14Working on the premise of hands,

0:03:14 > 0:03:17when you're talking about horses, your talk about them in hands.

0:03:17 > 0:03:19I was thinking that.

0:03:19 > 0:03:22- But hands DOWN?- What would that mean?- That might be cricket.

0:03:22 > 0:03:26Won with the horse lying down? Don't know about that.

0:03:26 > 0:03:27You know when you're boxing,

0:03:27 > 0:03:29- when your hands go down. - I think boxing...

0:03:29 > 0:03:33When your guard drops, your hands are down, and sometimes boxers,

0:03:33 > 0:03:37if they're beating someone easily, will just drop their guard,

0:03:37 > 0:03:39sort of slightly mocking them.

0:03:39 > 0:03:41To suggest, "I can win even with my hands down."

0:03:41 > 0:03:43Yeah, I can win even without my guard up.

0:03:43 > 0:03:46Similarly, fencing, if your hands were down,

0:03:46 > 0:03:49- you're open for anyone to get you. - Yeah, yeah.- Yeah, yeah.

0:03:49 > 0:03:52- My fencing knowledge is limited. - It's kind of like this, isn't it?

0:03:52 > 0:03:54Isn't your hand behind your back?

0:03:54 > 0:03:56That's true, one hand is behind your back.

0:03:56 > 0:03:58- So, it'll be hands down.- Hand down.

0:03:58 > 0:04:00Cricket, any leg before wicket?

0:04:02 > 0:04:05I can't see where hands down would come from with cricket.

0:04:05 > 0:04:07Oh, what about this? What about with horse riding?

0:04:07 > 0:04:10If you did take your hands and took them down and you run

0:04:10 > 0:04:13- even without holding on to the reins.- Without holding the reins?

0:04:13 > 0:04:15- I like that.- That is very plausible.

0:04:15 > 0:04:18You'd say he won by a furlong in horse racing, wouldn't you?

0:04:18 > 0:04:21So, working on that, boxing looks like...

0:04:21 > 0:04:23- Yeah.- ..it would be the natural one.

0:04:23 > 0:04:27- OK, so are we agreed?- Boxing. - Boxing?- Yeah, I think we are.

0:04:27 > 0:04:30OK, we think, the panel,

0:04:30 > 0:04:34the sport that gave rise to the saying "win hands down" is boxing.

0:04:34 > 0:04:36OK, they've plumped with boxing,

0:04:36 > 0:04:39- which was one of your original choices.- Yeah.

0:04:39 > 0:04:42If you won with your hands down in boxing,

0:04:42 > 0:04:46that would mean that you haven't even lifted your hands to box.

0:04:46 > 0:04:50So, logic would lead me to agree with the panel.

0:04:50 > 0:04:51You're agreeing with the panel?

0:04:52 > 0:04:54You are going for boxing.

0:04:56 > 0:04:59I'd love to say there's some confidence in this!

0:04:59 > 0:05:04We're all agreed, let's see if we can get up and running for £200.

0:05:04 > 0:05:09Does boxing give rise to the saying "to win hands down"?

0:05:13 > 0:05:17- Oh!- Horse racing. AUDIENCE GASP

0:05:17 > 0:05:21- Sorry.- It does, Magid, it does mean to win easily.

0:05:21 > 0:05:25A jockey needs to keep a tight rein on a horse in order to encourage it.

0:05:25 > 0:05:28If a jockey's so far ahead, he can actually afford just to loosen

0:05:28 > 0:05:32his grip a little bit, and that's where the hands down comes from.

0:05:32 > 0:05:34- What you said.- Yeah, well done. - I'm sorry.

0:05:34 > 0:05:36No, well, I didn't really know.

0:05:36 > 0:05:40- Well, I learnt something new, at least.- You did.

0:05:40 > 0:05:42A lot of what you've learnt may have been about our panel.

0:05:44 > 0:05:46Unfortunately, nothing for our first question.

0:05:46 > 0:05:49There's loads of opportunities to try to get that cash up,

0:05:49 > 0:05:51so here comes your next question, best of luck.

0:06:19 > 0:06:22- Well... - OTHERS LAUGH

0:06:22 > 0:06:24I have absolutely no idea.

0:06:24 > 0:06:28I'd tend to go with Shaken Not Stirred at this point.

0:06:28 > 0:06:30Don't worry, we have a...

0:06:30 > 0:06:36Sorry! Worry, we're about to hand this over to our panel.

0:06:36 > 0:06:39Come on, panel, we can sort this out. The debate starts now.

0:06:39 > 0:06:43Shall we go through them one by one? Armed And Fabulous...

0:06:43 > 0:06:46- can't be right.- I just don't see the word fabulous being...

0:06:46 > 0:06:49If it's Armed And Fabulous, I'll give Magid the money myself.

0:06:51 > 0:06:52- OK.- That's no problem.

0:06:52 > 0:06:55Think about what the American paperback edition would be,

0:06:55 > 0:06:58so not the British paperback edition, the American.

0:06:58 > 0:07:01- Licence To Thrill is too naff, isn't it?- But it's...

0:07:01 > 0:07:04Even Americans wouldn't read a book called Licence To Thrill.

0:07:04 > 0:07:05Too Hot To Handle, that was

0:07:05 > 0:07:08a different movie altogether, wasn't it?

0:07:08 > 0:07:10Marilyn Monroe was in Too Hot To Handle, wasn't she?

0:07:10 > 0:07:12- No, that was Some Like It Hot.- Yes!

0:07:12 > 0:07:15Funnily enough, I was going to go for Too Hot To Handle.

0:07:15 > 0:07:17There's something about Too Hot To Handle, cos it sounds

0:07:17 > 0:07:19a little bit From Russia With Love.

0:07:19 > 0:07:21- Yeah!- Like some of those titles, you know?

0:07:21 > 0:07:25- Alliteration, it's got that kind of...- Feels plausible.

0:07:25 > 0:07:29- Shaken Not Stirred just feels a bit too...- Obvious?- Yeah.

0:07:29 > 0:07:31It's between Shaken Not Stirred...

0:07:31 > 0:07:33I would get rid of Licence To Thrill.

0:07:33 > 0:07:35OK, Too Hot To Handle or Shaken Not Stirred?

0:07:35 > 0:07:37Go with your instincts on this, Carol.

0:07:37 > 0:07:40OK, the panel think the title used for the first American

0:07:40 > 0:07:43paperback edition of the James Bond novel Moonraker...

0:07:44 > 0:07:47..is Too Hot To Handle.

0:07:48 > 0:07:52Our panel back and forward between Shaken Not Stirred,

0:07:52 > 0:07:53Too Hot To Handle,

0:07:53 > 0:07:56although everyone watching is praying

0:07:56 > 0:07:58that it is Armed And Fabulous, so...

0:07:58 > 0:08:00I'll just get the chequebook out!

0:08:00 > 0:08:02..Rick'll give the money himself.

0:08:02 > 0:08:05Now, has that helped, has it hindered? What do we think?

0:08:05 > 0:08:07It's helped in a way.

0:08:07 > 0:08:10I would agree with Armed And Fabulous,

0:08:10 > 0:08:11it's just a bit too camp, isn't it?

0:08:11 > 0:08:15You'd just imagine him wearing a big wig and a sequin dress.

0:08:15 > 0:08:17I don't think it's Armed And Fabulous.

0:08:17 > 0:08:19I feel that Too Hot To Handle just sounds a bit...

0:08:19 > 0:08:21a little bit naff for James Bond.

0:08:21 > 0:08:24I think... I hope I don't live to regret this, but I think

0:08:24 > 0:08:27I'm going to go with Shaken Not Stirred.

0:08:28 > 0:08:33You have gone against the panel, who have suggested Too Hot To Handle.

0:08:33 > 0:08:38Is Shaken Not Stirred the first American paperback edition

0:08:38 > 0:08:41of Moonraker, for £200?

0:08:47 > 0:08:52- Oh!- It's the wrong answer! It was Too Hot To Handle, Magid.

0:08:52 > 0:08:56It was actually thought that the name was changed because of a play

0:08:56 > 0:08:58by Arthur Watkin

0:08:58 > 0:09:01was also running at the time, called Moonraker.

0:09:01 > 0:09:05Armed And Fabulous is actually the subtitle to the film

0:09:05 > 0:09:07Miss Congeniality 2, there it is!

0:09:08 > 0:09:10Great film.

0:09:10 > 0:09:14If anybody's armed and fabulous, there she is. Sandra Bullock.

0:09:14 > 0:09:17Unfortunately, Magid, you should have gone with the panel there.

0:09:17 > 0:09:19Don't worry, don't worry,

0:09:19 > 0:09:21we still have lots of opportunities to get the cash up.

0:09:21 > 0:09:24You didn't win anything in that round, but we have Rounds 2 and 3

0:09:24 > 0:09:26to try to get your prize pot up,

0:09:26 > 0:09:29so let's see how they cope with pictures.

0:09:29 > 0:09:30It's time for Round 2.

0:09:33 > 0:09:35Round 2 is our picture round, Magid.

0:09:35 > 0:09:39All you have to do is place three pictures in correct order.

0:09:39 > 0:09:44Two questions in this round and each correct answer is worth £300.

0:09:44 > 0:09:47- So, lots of opportunities to get the cash up.- OK.- Here we go.

0:10:05 > 0:10:07Angel Of The North and Blackpool Tower,

0:10:07 > 0:10:08I've never seen.

0:10:08 > 0:10:11So, I'd need a lot of help with this.

0:10:11 > 0:10:15We have a very well-travelled panel here, who I'm sure have

0:10:15 > 0:10:18visited all of these attractions and can pop them in order for you.

0:10:18 > 0:10:20The debate starts now.

0:10:20 > 0:10:22You know what? I have visited them all,

0:10:22 > 0:10:23but it's not helping.

0:10:23 > 0:10:24And how tall were they?

0:10:24 > 0:10:28- Tall, they were all tall. - All tall? Perfect. We're done.

0:10:28 > 0:10:30- All taller than Carol.- All tall.

0:10:31 > 0:10:33The Blackpool Tower, all I can tell you about that

0:10:33 > 0:10:34is, apart from it being tall,

0:10:34 > 0:10:36it's got that glass panel,

0:10:36 > 0:10:37like the leap of faith

0:10:37 > 0:10:39that you walk on and you look down through it.

0:10:39 > 0:10:42- And you hope it doesn't crack. - That is a pretty tall tower.

0:10:42 > 0:10:44I was going to say I thought

0:10:44 > 0:10:45maybe Blackpool Tower

0:10:45 > 0:10:47is the tallest of them all.

0:10:47 > 0:10:49I've seen the Angel Of The North.

0:10:49 > 0:10:52I feel like it is tall, but it looks tall

0:10:52 > 0:10:54cos it's in the middle of nowhere.

0:10:54 > 0:10:55And it's on a little hillock.

0:10:55 > 0:10:58And then I would say London Eye, then Blackpool Tower.

0:10:58 > 0:11:01- Shall we put it in our order, then? - Who's got the smallest?

0:11:01 > 0:11:05- Who's got Angel Of The North? - I've got... I'm in the right place.

0:11:05 > 0:11:09OK, the panel think that the landmarks in order of height

0:11:09 > 0:11:13from the shortest to the tallest is the Angel Of The North,

0:11:13 > 0:11:15then the London Eye and then Blackpool Tower.

0:11:16 > 0:11:20OK, the panel has gone for Angel Of The North, London Eye,

0:11:20 > 0:11:23Blackpool Tower - do you agree with them?

0:11:23 > 0:11:25I've never been north of Watford,

0:11:25 > 0:11:26so I'm going to go with

0:11:26 > 0:11:28what the panel suggested, 100%.

0:11:28 > 0:11:29Best of luck to everyone.

0:11:29 > 0:11:31We're going for Angel Of The North,

0:11:31 > 0:11:33then the London Eye,

0:11:33 > 0:11:35then the Blackpool Tower.

0:11:35 > 0:11:37Shortest to tallest for £300.

0:11:37 > 0:11:39The correct order is...

0:11:43 > 0:11:45- Yes!- It's the right order.

0:11:45 > 0:11:48'So happy.'

0:11:48 > 0:11:51- Well done, gang.- Well done!

0:11:51 > 0:11:52- Brilliant.- Thank you very much.

0:11:52 > 0:11:54Very well played, everyone.

0:11:54 > 0:11:57So, Angel Of The North, the shortest - 20 metres.

0:11:57 > 0:12:01Then a huge jump, the London Eye - 135 metres tall.

0:12:01 > 0:12:05The Blackpool Tower - 158 metres tall.

0:12:05 > 0:12:07The 32 capsules

0:12:07 > 0:12:10in the London Eye represent the 32 boroughs of London.

0:12:10 > 0:12:14- Oh!- It was the correct answer and you're on £300. Well done.

0:12:16 > 0:12:17Thanks, guys.

0:12:17 > 0:12:18Breathe a sigh of relief

0:12:18 > 0:12:20and let's have a look at question two.

0:12:38 > 0:12:41OK, Rev is definitely

0:12:41 > 0:12:43the most recent,

0:12:43 > 0:12:46I'd say Father Ted was the oldest

0:12:46 > 0:12:48and Vicar Of Dibley was in the middle.

0:12:48 > 0:12:51OK, let's turn this one over to the panel.

0:12:51 > 0:12:54Carol's got a smile on her face, let's hope that's good news.

0:12:54 > 0:12:56Panel, the debate starts now.

0:12:56 > 0:12:57Well, I actually think that

0:12:57 > 0:12:59Magid's got something there.

0:12:59 > 0:13:01Because if you think back, Father Ted,

0:13:01 > 0:13:03you know, it's a lot of respect to a priest, Father,

0:13:03 > 0:13:05whereas nowadays you would

0:13:05 > 0:13:06just call them Rev.

0:13:06 > 0:13:11- In my head, Rev is the newest one on screen, I think.- Me too.

0:13:11 > 0:13:13We're settled on Rev

0:13:13 > 0:13:15being the most recent,

0:13:15 > 0:13:16I think we know that.

0:13:16 > 0:13:17Magid knows that.

0:13:17 > 0:13:20When do we think Vicar Of Dibley and Father Ted started?

0:13:20 > 0:13:22My issue is I think it was about the same time.

0:13:22 > 0:13:24- Oh, do you? - I think they're both mid-90s.

0:13:24 > 0:13:28- Channel 4 did Father Ted.- I seem to remember Father Ted earlier.

0:13:28 > 0:13:29Earlier than mid-90s?

0:13:29 > 0:13:31Yeah, unless it was just that

0:13:31 > 0:13:32I enjoyed the Vicar Of Dibley more.

0:13:32 > 0:13:33Especially...

0:13:33 > 0:13:35Do you remember the scene

0:13:35 > 0:13:36where she walks along the puddle...

0:13:36 > 0:13:38Straight in? That was brilliant.

0:13:38 > 0:13:39Yeah, but can you remember

0:13:39 > 0:13:42what year that scene transmitted, Carol?

0:13:43 > 0:13:44I don't think I was really of an age

0:13:44 > 0:13:47where I should have been watching Father Ted

0:13:47 > 0:13:49whereas I definitely know when Vicar Of Dibley was on,

0:13:49 > 0:13:50I was a little bit older.

0:13:50 > 0:13:53I'm pretty confident in saying that Rev is the youngest

0:13:53 > 0:13:57- and Father Ted's the oldest out of the shows.- Me too.

0:13:57 > 0:14:00The thing is it's guesswork for me, I think they're similar times.

0:14:00 > 0:14:02I think Father Ted might have been

0:14:02 > 0:14:05after, but I think probably go with what you guys are saying.

0:14:05 > 0:14:07So, Vicar Of Dibley...

0:14:07 > 0:14:11OK, so the panel have decided that the sitcoms in order

0:14:11 > 0:14:15when they were first transmitted, starting with the earliest one,

0:14:15 > 0:14:20is Father Ted, then The Vicar Of Dibley, and then Rev.

0:14:21 > 0:14:23OK, our panel are going for Father Ted,

0:14:23 > 0:14:25The Vicar Of Dibley and Rev.

0:14:25 > 0:14:29All three religious sitcoms there, Magid.

0:14:29 > 0:14:30Any facts standing out

0:14:30 > 0:14:32or are we looking for some divine intervention?

0:14:33 > 0:14:35We always need divine intervention.

0:14:35 > 0:14:36Yes, we do, my son.

0:14:36 > 0:14:37We do, yes.

0:14:37 > 0:14:41Erm, I am pretty sure that I'm going to go with

0:14:41 > 0:14:43what the panel have suggested because it's along the lines of

0:14:43 > 0:14:45what my gut instinct was saying.

0:14:45 > 0:14:47It was your first instinct,

0:14:47 > 0:14:48you're going for Father Ted

0:14:48 > 0:14:51was first transmitted, followed by The Vicar Of Dibley

0:14:51 > 0:14:53and then Rev.

0:14:53 > 0:14:56For £300, is that the correct order?

0:14:59 > 0:15:02AUDIENCE GASP It's the wrong order.

0:15:02 > 0:15:04Let's see the correct order.

0:15:05 > 0:15:10- Oh!- Rick, your instincts were right, fella. The Vicar Of Dibley.

0:15:10 > 0:15:14- I'm so sorry.- Father Ted and then Rev. Let's go through it here.

0:15:14 > 0:15:18The Vicar Of Dibley - '94, Father Ted, just a year later - '95,

0:15:18 > 0:15:21and Rev in 2010.

0:15:21 > 0:15:24I mean, they're too close, Patrick.

0:15:24 > 0:15:26That's the thing, it was quite hard.

0:15:26 > 0:15:27They are too close and that's why

0:15:27 > 0:15:30we need some expert help from the panel.

0:15:32 > 0:15:35Unfortunately, nothing for that one, Magid.

0:15:35 > 0:15:39It means at the end of Round 2, you're still on £300.

0:15:42 > 0:15:45Not to worry, there is still £1,000 up for grabs.

0:15:45 > 0:15:47Let's play Round 3.

0:15:49 > 0:15:52So, Magid, in this round, you will face questions that contain

0:15:52 > 0:15:56three statements about a person, a place or a thing.

0:15:56 > 0:15:58Only one of those statements is true.

0:15:58 > 0:16:01You must try to find the true statement.

0:16:01 > 0:16:02Two questions in this round.

0:16:02 > 0:16:05Because it's our last round, we're going to up the money,

0:16:05 > 0:16:08£500 for each correct answer, so lots of chances to win.

0:16:08 > 0:16:11We'll get your prize pot up, here we go.

0:16:34 > 0:16:38I am currently going towards C.

0:16:38 > 0:16:41Any reason why George Bush is drawing you in?

0:16:41 > 0:16:45Because I know that he is a Texan,

0:16:45 > 0:16:49which doesn't necessarily mean that he was born in Texas.

0:16:49 > 0:16:53He might have just adopted that as his home state.

0:16:53 > 0:16:55Panel, £500 up for grabs.

0:16:55 > 0:16:57Let's see if we can get this money up for Magid.

0:16:57 > 0:16:59Your debate starts now.

0:16:59 > 0:17:05I was pretty hard on, "Birthplace of George Bush Jr,"

0:17:05 > 0:17:08until Magid made the excellent point that he might have just adopted it.

0:17:08 > 0:17:10- But he was governor of there, wasn't he?- Yes!

0:17:10 > 0:17:12And he wears the silly cowboy hat.

0:17:12 > 0:17:15I also feel that he's a Texan.

0:17:15 > 0:17:18Remember when he was talking about Osama bin Laden and he said,

0:17:18 > 0:17:20"We're going to smoke him out like a true Texan."

0:17:20 > 0:17:23- He was bandying around the word Texan a lot.- Yeah, he was.

0:17:23 > 0:17:26And you wouldn't say that, would you, unless you were a Texan?

0:17:26 > 0:17:29- Would you?- And when you look at the other two as well...

0:17:29 > 0:17:31- It is him!- Is it the largest state in the USA?

0:17:31 > 0:17:33It's a pretty big state, it's heading down

0:17:33 > 0:17:35towards the Gulf of Mexico, but is it the biggest?

0:17:35 > 0:17:37Alaska... Alaska's huge.

0:17:37 > 0:17:40So, the next one, "Became a US state before California."

0:17:40 > 0:17:43- Wouldn't have a clue.- I wouldn't have a clue about that either.

0:17:43 > 0:17:45Hawaii was one of the last states to...

0:17:45 > 0:17:47Yeah, I think we don't know the answer

0:17:47 > 0:17:50to the US state before California question,

0:17:50 > 0:17:53so I think we feel more confident with birthplace.

0:17:53 > 0:17:54It'll be frustrating if it is

0:17:54 > 0:17:56"Became a US state before California."

0:17:56 > 0:18:00So, the panel are going to go for

0:18:00 > 0:18:03the true fact here about the US state of Texas is...

0:18:04 > 0:18:07..it's the birthplace of George Bush Jr.

0:18:08 > 0:18:11OK, Magid, our panel are in agreement.

0:18:11 > 0:18:14That was the one you were thinking of to start with.

0:18:14 > 0:18:18Yeah, like the panel, "Became a US state before California,"

0:18:18 > 0:18:20I just don't know the answer to that.

0:18:20 > 0:18:21So, it's a tough one.

0:18:22 > 0:18:26I'm going to go with C, Birthplace of George Bush Jr.

0:18:26 > 0:18:30OK, we need this one to be correct, we want to get that prize pot up.

0:18:30 > 0:18:35£500 at stake. The panel say, "Birthplace of George Bush Jr."

0:18:35 > 0:18:38Magid, you have gone with them. Let's see.

0:18:38 > 0:18:42Is Texas the birthplace of George Bush Jr?

0:18:47 > 0:18:49- No!- It isn't.

0:18:49 > 0:18:53Texas became a US state before California,

0:18:53 > 0:18:55that was the correct answer.

0:18:55 > 0:18:58Texas joined the Union in 1845,

0:18:58 > 0:19:02California was later in 1850.

0:19:02 > 0:19:05We were right, the largest state was Alaska.

0:19:05 > 0:19:11- George Bush Jr was born in Connecticut. SUNETRA:- What?

0:19:11 > 0:19:14- But he was the Governor of Texas. MAGID:- Tricky.

0:19:14 > 0:19:16It was a tricky, tricky question.

0:19:16 > 0:19:18Unfortunately, you didn't manage to get that right.

0:19:18 > 0:19:22- There's still £500 up for grabs, we really want you to get that.- OK.

0:19:22 > 0:19:25- Here comes your next question. - Let's do it.

0:19:43 > 0:19:49- Ever read any Beatrix Potter as a kid?- Not especially.

0:19:49 > 0:19:55I have an inkling that she was born after Lewis Carroll.

0:19:55 > 0:19:58Born after Lewis Carroll.

0:19:58 > 0:20:01Panel, the debate starts now.

0:20:01 > 0:20:06So, was she a Children's Laureate? That I have to try and work out.

0:20:06 > 0:20:11- I reckon that Children's Laureate is a newer thing.- Posthumously.

0:20:11 > 0:20:15I don't think it's been going that long as an award.

0:20:15 > 0:20:16So, narrowing it down, then.

0:20:16 > 0:20:20First published novel was The Tale Of Squirrel Nutkin.

0:20:20 > 0:20:23I've read some of these stories to my son and I can't remember.

0:20:23 > 0:20:25Why didn't you do them in chronological order?

0:20:25 > 0:20:26I should have thought!

0:20:26 > 0:20:29There was a film about Beatrix Potter

0:20:29 > 0:20:31called Miss Potter with Renee Zellweger

0:20:31 > 0:20:33and I had to interview Renee Zellweger for that film

0:20:33 > 0:20:34and watch the film.

0:20:34 > 0:20:39But it was kind of... Yeah, it was set, like...

0:20:39 > 0:20:42Hmm, I think it was set late 19th century.

0:20:42 > 0:20:44I'm pretty sure Miss Potter was not set in the 18th...

0:20:44 > 0:20:45I think it was later.

0:20:45 > 0:20:48I think you're right, she was born after Lewis Carroll.

0:20:48 > 0:20:50So, we're all veering towards Born after Lewis Carroll.

0:20:50 > 0:20:52I'm confident with that one.

0:20:52 > 0:20:55This could, obviously, be another birthplace of George Bush.

0:20:55 > 0:20:57Don't say that! It could be.

0:20:57 > 0:20:59- I feel this one is right. - Lewis Carroll is older, right?

0:20:59 > 0:21:01She was born after Lewis Carroll.

0:21:01 > 0:21:03Right, so that's going to be our final decision.

0:21:03 > 0:21:07So, the panel reckon that the true statement here is

0:21:07 > 0:21:10that Beatrix Potter was born after Lewis Carroll.

0:21:11 > 0:21:15So, Magid, I never thought we'd actually get there by this process.

0:21:16 > 0:21:20However, Rick interviewed Renee Zellweger and we think

0:21:20 > 0:21:25that's the reason why Beatrix Potter was born after Lewis Carroll.

0:21:25 > 0:21:27I'm in agreement with the panel.

0:21:27 > 0:21:30Like Rick said, I'm pretty sure that the Children's Laureate

0:21:30 > 0:21:32is something really quite recent.

0:21:32 > 0:21:36Again, wasn't she inspired to write children's books

0:21:36 > 0:21:40by a rabbit that used to come into someone's garden and steal carrots?

0:21:40 > 0:21:44That would suggest that her first novel was Peter Rabbit,

0:21:44 > 0:21:47rather than The Tale Of Squirrel Nutkin.

0:21:47 > 0:21:49On the basis of that, I'm going to go with A.

0:21:49 > 0:21:53So, for £500 to get that prize pot up to 800,

0:21:53 > 0:21:56was Beatrix Potter born after Lewis Carroll?

0:22:01 > 0:22:03- It's the correct answer.- Yay!

0:22:03 > 0:22:05Big knowledge, well done!

0:22:05 > 0:22:10Beatrix Potter was born in 1866,

0:22:10 > 0:22:12Carol was born in 1832.

0:22:13 > 0:22:15How very dare you!

0:22:17 > 0:22:20- The first published book was... - Peter Rabbit.

0:22:20 > 0:22:23Was The Tale Of Peter Rabbit, which she published herself.

0:22:23 > 0:22:26Rick was right, the Children's Laureate position

0:22:26 > 0:22:30- was created in...?- 1999. - 1999, so, very well done.

0:22:30 > 0:22:33- Well played, Magid. You're up to £800.- Great.

0:22:35 > 0:22:37- Fantastic. Thank you.- Very nice.

0:22:38 > 0:22:41There's just one question that stands between you and that money.

0:22:41 > 0:22:45That is today's Final Debate, Magid. You will face one question.

0:22:45 > 0:22:48That question has six possible answers.

0:22:48 > 0:22:50Only three of those are correct.

0:22:50 > 0:22:51In order to win the money,

0:22:51 > 0:22:54you need to give me all three correct answers.

0:22:54 > 0:22:56As always, you will not be playing alone,

0:22:56 > 0:22:58but as this is our Final Debate,

0:22:58 > 0:23:00we're going to make life a little bit tricky

0:23:00 > 0:23:04as you can only access one celebrity from the panel.

0:23:04 > 0:23:07You and your celebrity will have 45 seconds to debate the question.

0:23:07 > 0:23:09So, based on today's performances,

0:23:09 > 0:23:12who would you like to join you on the Final Debate?

0:23:13 > 0:23:15This is a tricky one.

0:23:17 > 0:23:20I think Sunetra's been really consistent.

0:23:23 > 0:23:27- Rick, he's got his Cambridge degree, you know.- Hmm.

0:23:27 > 0:23:31I don't know, but I went to Oxford and I've...

0:23:32 > 0:23:35Haven't really done very well, so it doesn't really stand for much.

0:23:35 > 0:23:38I think I'm going to go with Sunetra.

0:23:38 > 0:23:41OK, Sunetra, would you join us for the Final Debate?

0:23:48 > 0:23:52OK, Sunetra, Magid has chosen you for our Final Debate.

0:23:52 > 0:23:54- You are looking confident. - I feel so honoured, I do.

0:23:54 > 0:23:58And I just don't want to let him down because he's been super bright,

0:23:58 > 0:23:59so fingers crossed.

0:23:59 > 0:24:02OK, because it is our Final Debate, Magid,

0:24:02 > 0:24:04we're going to give you the choice of two categories.

0:24:04 > 0:24:06What do you fancy from these?

0:24:12 > 0:24:15Right. I have zero sport knowledge.

0:24:15 > 0:24:17Sunetra?

0:24:17 > 0:24:19So, then we go with Food and Drink, because we both eat food

0:24:19 > 0:24:21- and we both drink.- Yeah! - There we go.

0:24:21 > 0:24:24- OK, Magid, we're going for Food and Drink.- Yep.

0:24:24 > 0:24:26Let's lock it in.

0:24:26 > 0:24:29For £800 with 45 seconds on the clock,

0:24:29 > 0:24:32here comes today's Final Debate question.

0:24:32 > 0:24:34Best of luck.

0:25:01 > 0:25:02We need

0:25:02 > 0:25:05three correct answers, Magid, for the money.

0:25:05 > 0:25:09So, for the final time today, your debate starts now.

0:25:11 > 0:25:14- Let's go, Waldorf salad?- OK. - New York?

0:25:14 > 0:25:18Yeah, peach Melba is named after Nellie Melba, an opera singer,

0:25:18 > 0:25:20so that's a person, not a place.

0:25:20 > 0:25:23- Wiener schnitzel - Vienna is a place.- Austria.

0:25:23 > 0:25:25- So that is one. - I was going to say that. Definitely.

0:25:25 > 0:25:29There's no such thing as a vindaloo, as we know, it's a made-up dish.

0:25:29 > 0:25:32OK, so it's not vindaloo.

0:25:32 > 0:25:35So, we've got Vienna and then I'm thinking Waldorf...

0:25:35 > 0:25:38- Waldorf salad is New York? - Waldorf is a place,

0:25:38 > 0:25:40it is a hotel, but is it a...?

0:25:40 > 0:25:41Well, it's a specific place,

0:25:41 > 0:25:45the Waldorf Hotel created the Waldorf salad, maybe?

0:25:45 > 0:25:46But it might be a Waldorf person.

0:25:46 > 0:25:48Mr Waldorf.

0:25:48 > 0:25:50I would veer more towards what you're saying.

0:25:50 > 0:25:55My gut instinct also says puttanesca is Italy and Tangiers, tangerine.

0:25:55 > 0:25:58- Oh, what do you want to go with? - Got to stop you there, Sunetra.

0:25:58 > 0:26:02Time up, Magid. We need three answers, please.

0:26:02 > 0:26:05OK, so Wiener schnitzel definitely,

0:26:05 > 0:26:08because that's Vienna.

0:26:08 > 0:26:11Waldorf salad, the Waldorf Hotel

0:26:11 > 0:26:15in New York is a specific place.

0:26:15 > 0:26:19- Tangerine.- Tangerine?- Yeah.

0:26:19 > 0:26:20Three good answers.

0:26:20 > 0:26:21Prize pot of £800

0:26:21 > 0:26:23up for grabs, Magid,

0:26:23 > 0:26:24we're going to

0:26:24 > 0:26:25wish you all the best.

0:26:25 > 0:26:26We need all three to be correct

0:26:26 > 0:26:28in order for you to walk away with the cash.

0:26:28 > 0:26:30Here we go. First up, you said...

0:26:31 > 0:26:33Wiener schnitzel.

0:26:33 > 0:26:39Is Wiener schnitzel a place that a food has taken its name from?

0:26:44 > 0:26:46- Wiener schnitzel is correct. - Well done.

0:26:48 > 0:26:51Next up, with the help of Sunetra,

0:26:51 > 0:26:55who was quietly confident on this one, you went for Waldorf salad.

0:26:55 > 0:26:58To keep us on track for the £800,

0:26:58 > 0:27:01is the Waldorf salad a correct answer?

0:27:05 > 0:27:08- It is correct.- Great, great!

0:27:11 > 0:27:13And so, it all comes down to this.

0:27:14 > 0:27:18It was between puttanesca, in your mind,

0:27:18 > 0:27:20which you think was in Italy.

0:27:20 > 0:27:22You plumped for tangerine.

0:27:22 > 0:27:26If that is the correct answer, you leave with £800.

0:27:26 > 0:27:29If it isn't, I'm afraid you go home with nothing.

0:27:29 > 0:27:32Is tangerine, for £800, the correct answer?

0:27:38 > 0:27:40Hooray!

0:27:44 > 0:27:48Congratulations, well played, Magid. Well done, Sunetra.

0:27:48 > 0:27:49Very well played.

0:27:49 > 0:27:51Waldorf salad, you were right,

0:27:51 > 0:27:54it is named after the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York.

0:27:54 > 0:27:58Wiener schnitzel is named after Vienna.

0:27:58 > 0:28:00Tangerine, of course, after Tangiers.

0:28:00 > 0:28:03Well done, three correct answers, well played.

0:28:03 > 0:28:05- £800, congratulations. - Thank you very much.

0:28:07 > 0:28:09Very well played, very well worked out.

0:28:09 > 0:28:12And that is it from Debatable.

0:28:12 > 0:28:13There's just enough time

0:28:13 > 0:28:15for me to thank our fantastic panel.

0:28:15 > 0:28:19Sunetra Sarker, well done, Carol Kirkwood and Rick Edwards.

0:28:22 > 0:28:24I hope you've enjoyed watching.

0:28:24 > 0:28:27We will see you next time for more heated debates.

0:28:27 > 0:28:28For now, it's goodbye from me.