0:00:13 > 0:00:18Hello, and welcome to Debatable, the quiz show where talk is cheap,
0:00:18 > 0:00:20but celebrity chat can win a contestant money.
0:00:20 > 0:00:24Today, one player must answer a series of tricky questions
0:00:24 > 0:00:28to try to bag our jackpot of ?2,000.
0:00:28 > 0:00:31But they are not on their own as they will also have
0:00:31 > 0:00:35a panel of celebrity brain boxes, debating their way to the answer.
0:00:35 > 0:00:36Will they help or will they hinder?
0:00:36 > 0:00:40Well, that is debatable. So, let's meet them.
0:00:40 > 0:00:42On today's show, we have
0:00:42 > 0:00:44TV presenter Gethin Jones,
0:00:44 > 0:00:46broadcaster and journalist
0:00:46 > 0:00:47Angela Rippon,
0:00:47 > 0:00:49and broadcaster Alice Levine.
0:00:49 > 0:00:53APPLAUSE
0:00:53 > 0:00:56Let's see who the contestant is today.
0:00:56 > 0:00:58It is Adrian Stewart from Croydon.
0:01:01 > 0:01:03Adrian, welcome to the show. Thanks very much for having me.
0:01:03 > 0:01:05Tell us a little bit about yourself.
0:01:05 > 0:01:09So, I'm 26 and I am a market researcher for a film charity.
0:01:09 > 0:01:11So, in your spare time, what do you get up to?
0:01:11 > 0:01:13Well, I quite like making lists,
0:01:13 > 0:01:16I like blogging and kind of finding new ideas.
0:01:16 > 0:01:20And I'm currently making a chart of sort of light-hearted books,
0:01:20 > 0:01:22they are the more kitsch literature.
0:01:22 > 0:01:25I just managed to finish all 31 Jackie Collins novels,
0:01:25 > 0:01:27which is quite a... LAUGHTER
0:01:27 > 0:01:30..sizable. That's a commitment.
0:01:30 > 0:01:33Are they genuinely raunchy?
0:01:33 > 0:01:36Yes, they are. Really? And they get more raunchy as she gets older.
0:01:36 > 0:01:39I even got a signed photo, actually. A signed photo from Jackie Collins?
0:01:39 > 0:01:43And the heroine of the main book is Lucky, so it was "Stay lucky."
0:01:43 > 0:01:47OK, stay lucky. Let's see if you are lucky today. Let's play Round 1.
0:01:50 > 0:01:51This round is multiple choice.
0:01:51 > 0:01:56Each question has four possible answers, but only one is correct.
0:01:56 > 0:01:59Helping you find the correct answer is our panel.
0:01:59 > 0:02:01There they are in all their glory.
0:02:01 > 0:02:04Will you go with what they say, or will you go your own way?
0:02:04 > 0:02:06It's entirely up to you. There are two questions in this round.
0:02:06 > 0:02:10Each question is worth 200 points, so best of luck.
0:02:10 > 0:02:12Ready to play? I'm ready to play. Here we go.
0:02:29 > 0:02:32Which one of those notes has the Queen on one side and
0:02:32 > 0:02:35Jackie Collins on the other? LAUGHTER
0:02:35 > 0:02:37I feel like when I pay for everything,
0:02:37 > 0:02:39I should check my notes more.
0:02:39 > 0:02:41I have an inch that it could be the five,
0:02:41 > 0:02:44but I think I might need the panel with this one.
0:02:44 > 0:02:47OK, you might need the panel. You are thinking the five.
0:02:47 > 0:02:50Let's see if our panel can get off to a good start with this one.
0:02:50 > 0:02:52Your debate starts now.
0:02:52 > 0:02:55You've got a few 50s in your pocket, let's have a look. Get them out.
0:02:55 > 0:02:58Yes, yes. If I actually pull these out, then we are... Look at that.
0:02:58 > 0:03:01That... We're not going there, madam. We are not going there.
0:03:01 > 0:03:04So, with the fives, am I right in thinking,
0:03:04 > 0:03:05Elizabeth Fry is on the five?
0:03:05 > 0:03:07Yes, she's the lady in the poke bonnet.
0:03:07 > 0:03:09Angel of the prison. Exactly, but...
0:03:09 > 0:03:13Is she on the, I've just read it again, the current ones? Yes.
0:03:13 > 0:03:14Cos it's all changing. Yes.
0:03:14 > 0:03:17The five is changing. The ?20 note is changing.
0:03:17 > 0:03:19Who's on the ten?
0:03:19 > 0:03:22Uh... Darwin. Darwin's on the ten.
0:03:22 > 0:03:25Which one... Is Churchill on one?
0:03:25 > 0:03:27Churchill is going to be on one of the new notes.
0:03:27 > 0:03:29One of the new plastic... Oh, that'll be the five, won't it?
0:03:29 > 0:03:31That'll be the five. But that's not current.
0:03:31 > 0:03:3420, is Smith, the economist on the ?20 at the moment?
0:03:34 > 0:03:37I don't know who's on 20. Adam Smith. Yes, Adam Smith.
0:03:37 > 0:03:40No, it's the fiver. No idea who's on the 50. I don't know who...
0:03:40 > 0:03:43Yeah, I've never seen a 50. It's ever such a pretty pink colour.
0:03:43 > 0:03:45Yeah, some people call it a salmon, don't they?
0:03:45 > 0:03:47Yeah, it's a pretty pink colour, the 50.
0:03:47 > 0:03:49But I think... Are we all agreed
0:03:49 > 0:03:51that it is the fiver that's got Elizabeth Fry on it?
0:03:51 > 0:03:53If that's the current one,
0:03:53 > 0:03:55then Elizabeth Fry is definitely on the five. It is.
0:03:55 > 0:03:58As it stands right now, I say fiver.
0:03:58 > 0:04:01Yeah, reformer extraordinaire, Elizabeth Fry. Fiver.
0:04:01 > 0:04:02Our decision
0:04:02 > 0:04:04after not too much debate, actually,
0:04:04 > 0:04:05is that it's a fiver.
0:04:06 > 0:04:09So, pretty decent logic there from the panel.
0:04:09 > 0:04:12Has that made you agree with your initial decision?
0:04:12 > 0:04:14I think that was very strong.
0:04:14 > 0:04:16Yeah, I like the idea of the five.
0:04:16 > 0:04:18You like the idea of the five, the panel has gone with the five,
0:04:18 > 0:04:21let's see if we can get up and running.
0:04:22 > 0:04:25Is the fiver worth ?200?
0:04:29 > 0:04:33Yes! It is, it's the correct answer, well played.
0:04:33 > 0:04:36What a start! Well done, ?200 in the prize pot.
0:04:36 > 0:04:40On one side is Elizabeth Fry, a prison reformer,
0:04:40 > 0:04:43the Queen, of course, is on the other.
0:04:43 > 0:04:47Jane Austen will appear on the ?10 note from 2017
0:04:47 > 0:04:50and Elizabeth Fry will soon disappear from the fiver
0:04:50 > 0:04:53and be replaced by Winston Churchill.
0:04:53 > 0:04:57You were correct, Darwin was on the 10 and Adam Smith on the 20.
0:04:57 > 0:04:59James Watt is on the 50. Ah.
0:04:59 > 0:05:01Adrian, we're up and running, ?200 in the bank.
0:05:02 > 0:05:05Thanks very much.
0:05:05 > 0:05:06Here's your next question.
0:05:28 > 0:05:30OK, what's your gut reaction on this one, Adrian?
0:05:30 > 0:05:35Well, I don't think it would be Rushdie. Er...
0:05:35 > 0:05:38I sort of think it has to be Dickens. He's still selling a lot.
0:05:38 > 0:05:40I'm going to go with Dickens.
0:05:40 > 0:05:44It's a classic, you're thinking Charles Dickens.
0:05:44 > 0:05:46Panel, your debate starts now.
0:05:46 > 0:05:48I've read a bit of Billionaire Boy
0:05:48 > 0:05:51and I've read a bit of Gangsta Granny for my nephews.
0:05:51 > 0:05:54Oh, for David? For David, yes.
0:05:54 > 0:05:57And I think Billionaire Boy has been made into a programme, film.
0:05:57 > 0:06:00And The Boy In The Frock was a television programme, wasn't it?
0:06:00 > 0:06:03Do you think it's relevant that it's in the Noughties? Yes, I do.
0:06:03 > 0:06:07Obviously, David Walliams will have released his work in the Noughties.
0:06:07 > 0:06:10Salman Rushdie, written some great books but...
0:06:10 > 0:06:13Award-winning, does top lists, very critically acclaimed.
0:06:13 > 0:06:16Not enough of them, I don't think. Booker Award winner?
0:06:16 > 0:06:18Yes, but he writes bricks, doesn't he?
0:06:18 > 0:06:21And I don't think they sell in quite as many millions as the others.
0:06:21 > 0:06:24Hargreaves. He had the little books, the Mr Men books!
0:06:24 > 0:06:25They're tiny.
0:06:25 > 0:06:28And they probably sell millions of those too, don't they?
0:06:28 > 0:06:31I would say Dickens over Hargreaves.
0:06:31 > 0:06:35Yes, even though he sells the littlies, which are... Cheaper.
0:06:35 > 0:06:37Cheaper and even sold in their millions.
0:06:37 > 0:06:40I was looking at money but it's about how many they sold.
0:06:40 > 0:06:41How many sold in the Noughties.
0:06:41 > 0:06:44That's a great stat, if David Walliams outsold Dickens.
0:06:44 > 0:06:47I didn't want to say this but now you've said that,
0:06:47 > 0:06:50it's hard to believe that David Walliams wins that.
0:06:50 > 0:06:52You know what I mean? I would shout about that all the time.
0:06:52 > 0:06:55That would be my e-mail signature, "I outsold Dickens."
0:06:55 > 0:06:57So, it's got to be Dickens,
0:06:57 > 0:06:59Walliams or Hargreaves, isn't it?
0:06:59 > 0:07:03Great, we've narrowed it down(!) We're gaining one each time.
0:07:03 > 0:07:06I think Paddy wants something. He does want something. An answer.
0:07:06 > 0:07:08He wants an answer.
0:07:08 > 0:07:10David... Our answer is David Walliams.
0:07:13 > 0:07:17You went with Dickens. Mm-hm. Your initial thought.
0:07:17 > 0:07:20Our panel have said David Walliams.
0:07:20 > 0:07:22Anything there to change your mind?
0:07:22 > 0:07:26I think I'm going to stick with Dickens because I think
0:07:26 > 0:07:29Walliams probably published late into the Noughties,
0:07:29 > 0:07:32so he's probably got a lot into the next decade.
0:07:32 > 0:07:34OK, you're going to keep it classic, keep it highbrow.
0:07:34 > 0:07:37We're going for Charles Dickens.
0:07:37 > 0:07:40For ?200, is Charles Dickens the correct answer?
0:07:44 > 0:07:47Oh! It was Roger Hargreaves.
0:07:47 > 0:07:49The little books. Little tiny cheap books.
0:07:49 > 0:07:56Roger Hargreaves has sold over 14 million books in the Noughties.
0:07:56 > 0:07:59The somewhat surprisingly high position of Roger Hargreaves
0:07:59 > 0:08:03is down, of course, to the continued success of his Mr Men series.
0:08:03 > 0:08:06Unfortunately, you didn't manage to get anything for that question
0:08:06 > 0:08:09but we are still on ?200 at the end of Round 1.
0:08:14 > 0:08:16It's time for Round 2.
0:08:19 > 0:08:21So, Round 2 is our picture round.
0:08:21 > 0:08:25All you have to do is place three pictures in order.
0:08:25 > 0:08:27It sounds simple but it's not.
0:08:27 > 0:08:31There are two questions and each correct answer is worth ?300.
0:08:31 > 0:08:35So, here we go, Adrian. Let's see if we can get you up.
0:08:54 > 0:08:55First thoughts?
0:08:55 > 0:08:57I have a feeling white
0:08:57 > 0:08:59is in the middle, so I feel
0:08:59 > 0:09:01blue and red are interchangeable
0:09:01 > 0:09:02at this present stage.
0:09:02 > 0:09:04But that's a guess!
0:09:04 > 0:09:09OK, that's a guess. So, we don't really know this one.
0:09:09 > 0:09:13Can our panel help us out with some proper knowledge?
0:09:13 > 0:09:15The debate starts now.
0:09:15 > 0:09:19So, I've got white. I'm pretty confident that white's at the top.
0:09:19 > 0:09:21And so am I and I'll tell you why. Why is it?
0:09:21 > 0:09:24I tell you why I'm fairly confident about it, because I live
0:09:24 > 0:09:26just down the road from the Russian Embassy in London!
0:09:26 > 0:09:28LAUGHTER
0:09:28 > 0:09:29And I drive past it and there's
0:09:29 > 0:09:31that flag on its flagpole fluttering,
0:09:31 > 0:09:33and it's amazing actually when you think about
0:09:33 > 0:09:36how many times you pass something and don't really take it all in.
0:09:36 > 0:09:38But I know white is at the top.
0:09:38 > 0:09:42So early '90s, red with a gold hammer, USSR,
0:09:42 > 0:09:46same as the Chinese flag but the gold hammer was a star.
0:09:46 > 0:09:48Then it changed to this
0:09:48 > 0:09:51and I'm sure it's white at the top
0:09:51 > 0:09:53and red at the bottom.
0:09:53 > 0:09:54And blue in the middle?
0:09:54 > 0:09:56I know it's definitely white at the top.
0:09:56 > 0:09:58So, white and that end. Am I top?
0:09:58 > 0:10:01Blue in the middle? Blue in the middle and red at the bottom.
0:10:01 > 0:10:04I've got this mad feeling that I want to high-five Angela Rippon.
0:10:04 > 0:10:06Is that allowed? Yes!
0:10:07 > 0:10:11So, we've decided that the Russian flag has got white on the top,
0:10:11 > 0:10:13then blue and then red on the bottom.
0:10:14 > 0:10:17So they've gone for white, then blue, then red -
0:10:17 > 0:10:19white at the top, red on the bottom.
0:10:19 > 0:10:20They are so confident, Adrian,
0:10:20 > 0:10:23they are high-fiving before they've even got the answer.
0:10:23 > 0:10:25It was a great scene!
0:10:25 > 0:10:27I was really hoping when that question came up
0:10:27 > 0:10:29that someone would say,
0:10:29 > 0:10:30"Oh, I happen to
0:10:30 > 0:10:31"pass by the Russian Embassy."
0:10:31 > 0:10:32And I wasn't let down.
0:10:32 > 0:10:34So, for that reason, I'm willing
0:10:34 > 0:10:35to go with the team.
0:10:35 > 0:10:38OK, we are going with the team, going with Angela Rippon's
0:10:38 > 0:10:44drive-by knowledge that it is white at the top, then blue and then red.
0:10:44 > 0:10:48Is it high-fives all round and ?300 in the prize pot?
0:10:54 > 0:10:56It's the correct answer. Hey!
0:10:59 > 0:11:02It is a white at the top, blue and then red. High-fives all round.
0:11:02 > 0:11:04There's the flag.
0:11:04 > 0:11:05Good news,
0:11:05 > 0:11:08?300 into the prize pot, you're up at ?500.
0:11:12 > 0:11:15OK, Adrian, let's have a look at Question 2.
0:11:33 > 0:11:36Now, what you really need, you need a panel of people
0:11:36 > 0:11:39that have presented shows on the BBC to sort this out.
0:11:40 > 0:11:42What are you thinking?
0:11:43 > 0:11:47Well, I'm thinking I might have a good inkling with this question.
0:11:47 > 0:11:52I'm basing a lot of it on the fonts of the images. Ah!
0:11:52 > 0:11:54A Question Of Sport is very '70s looking.
0:11:54 > 0:11:58I actually think that is in the correct order for earliest.
0:11:58 > 0:12:01A Question Of Sport, EastEnders, Question Time,
0:12:01 > 0:12:05but I'm fifty-fifty, looking forward to some BBC support here.
0:12:05 > 0:12:08OK, we are going for the fonts.
0:12:08 > 0:12:12The panel, Gethin shaking his head, the debate starts now.
0:12:13 > 0:12:17The thing is Question Time started on radio, on Radio 4.
0:12:17 > 0:12:20Was Question Time always called Question Time? On the telly, yes.
0:12:20 > 0:12:23So, it can include when it was on the radio.
0:12:23 > 0:12:25No, it's called something else
0:12:25 > 0:12:26when it's on the radio. Oh, OK.
0:12:26 > 0:12:29EastEnders. First-ever soap opera
0:12:29 > 0:12:31on the BBC. Yeah. When?
0:12:31 > 0:12:35It's just celebrated an anniversary. Which anniversary was it?
0:12:35 > 0:12:39It's not 50 years. I remember being proper young when I heard...
0:12:39 > 0:12:42THEY HUM EASTENDERS THEME TUNE ..for the first time.
0:12:42 > 0:12:44Is that helpful? No.
0:12:45 > 0:12:48Question Of Sport, I love that show. Have you been on Question Of Sport?
0:12:48 > 0:12:50I've actually been on a couple of times, Sue Barker,
0:12:50 > 0:12:52and then before, David Coleman.
0:12:52 > 0:12:54Coleman, you're talking, what's that?
0:12:54 > 0:12:56Oh, that's back in the '50s.
0:12:56 > 0:12:57Early '60s?
0:12:57 > 0:13:01Think about Question Of Sport, was it ever in black and white? Yes.
0:13:01 > 0:13:03Well, EastEnders has never been in black and white.
0:13:03 > 0:13:05That's true. It's always been in colour.
0:13:05 > 0:13:07So, that's got to be the first one, hasn't it?
0:13:08 > 0:13:10In its TV incarnation,
0:13:10 > 0:13:13maybe it came later as Question Time.
0:13:13 > 0:13:15What do we think? Are we agreed on this?
0:13:15 > 0:13:17We're agreed? Agreed.
0:13:17 > 0:13:20We've debated and we've come to a solution and a resolution.
0:13:20 > 0:13:23Our decision is that Question Of Sport
0:13:23 > 0:13:24was the first programme,
0:13:24 > 0:13:27EastEnders came next and then, Question Time.
0:13:28 > 0:13:32So, absolutely no chat about logos there, Adrian.
0:13:32 > 0:13:33But they think that Question Of Sport
0:13:33 > 0:13:35was in black and white,
0:13:35 > 0:13:38then they think EastEnders and then Question Time.
0:13:38 > 0:13:40Well, they mentioned dates
0:13:40 > 0:13:43and they focused on EastEnders.
0:13:43 > 0:13:44I know that's '85.
0:13:44 > 0:13:46There was a mention of Question Of Sport
0:13:46 > 0:13:47being in black and white,
0:13:47 > 0:13:49which I didn't know.
0:13:49 > 0:13:51So, I'm pretty happy with that order.
0:13:51 > 0:13:53So, I agree with the panel, yeah.
0:13:53 > 0:13:55You're going to go with the panel, OK.
0:13:55 > 0:13:58The panel and Adrian have gone for Question Of Sport,
0:13:58 > 0:14:01EastEnders and then Question Time.
0:14:01 > 0:14:03For ?300, is that the correct order?
0:14:09 > 0:14:13No! It's the wrong order.
0:14:13 > 0:14:16Let's see what the correct order should be,
0:14:16 > 0:14:17starting with the earliest.
0:14:17 > 0:14:19A Question Of Sport, 1970.
0:14:19 > 0:14:22Question Time, 1979.
0:14:22 > 0:14:24EastEnders, 1985.
0:14:24 > 0:14:28The original host of A Question Of Sport was David Vine.
0:14:28 > 0:14:29David Vine, of course!
0:14:29 > 0:14:33Before David Dimbleby, Question Time was hosted by Robin Day.
0:14:33 > 0:14:36Robin! Unfortunately, you didn't manage to bank anything
0:14:36 > 0:14:39for that question, means the total amount banked
0:14:39 > 0:14:41at the end of our picture round is ?500.
0:14:47 > 0:14:50There's still ?1,000 up for grabs, so let's play Round 3.
0:14:53 > 0:14:55In this round, you will face questions that contain
0:14:55 > 0:14:58a statement about a person, a place or a thing
0:14:58 > 0:15:00but only one of those statements is correct.
0:15:00 > 0:15:02You must decide which one.
0:15:02 > 0:15:04Two questions in this round.
0:15:04 > 0:15:09Each correct answer is worth ?500 so we can still get that prize pot up.
0:15:09 > 0:15:11Here's your first question, best of luck.
0:15:32 > 0:15:34How are you on space?
0:15:34 > 0:15:37I sort of think that the hottest planet is closest to the Sun
0:15:37 > 0:15:42could be the most obvious but most correct answer. Potentially!
0:15:42 > 0:15:45That's potentially the one you're going towards. Yes.
0:15:45 > 0:15:50Let's see if our panel can sort this out for you. Your debate starts now.
0:15:50 > 0:15:53Saturn is not the only one that's got rings, so we can throw that out.
0:15:53 > 0:15:56There's no way Saturn is the only planet with rings.
0:15:56 > 0:15:59The hottest planet I'm not sure about
0:15:59 > 0:16:03because Mercury is the closest to the Sun.
0:16:03 > 0:16:04It does get extremely hot,
0:16:04 > 0:16:05it gets extremely cold,
0:16:05 > 0:16:06but Venus is next
0:16:06 > 0:16:09and that doesn't change.
0:16:09 > 0:16:10And is it known as the
0:16:10 > 0:16:12ultraviolet planet? Venus?
0:16:12 > 0:16:13Yeah, because of the heat.
0:16:13 > 0:16:17I'm very dubious about the first one, Earth is the densest planet.
0:16:17 > 0:16:18I mean, we're so small compared...
0:16:18 > 0:16:20I think Earth is the densest planet.
0:16:20 > 0:16:21I think it is. It could be Mercury
0:16:21 > 0:16:23because that's full of metal.
0:16:23 > 0:16:25I know there are planets that are more gas-based. All gas!
0:16:25 > 0:16:28So, do you think something like Jupiter, which is huge,
0:16:28 > 0:16:32is not as dense? Yeah, because it's full of nothing. Full of gas.
0:16:32 > 0:16:34I just think Earth is the densest. I agree.
0:16:36 > 0:16:39Process of elimination again. I...
0:16:39 > 0:16:42I'm so unsure that I'm going to go with the consensus.
0:16:42 > 0:16:46All right, so we agree.
0:16:46 > 0:16:47Earth is the densest planet.
0:16:49 > 0:16:54So, our panel have decided that Earth is the densest.
0:16:54 > 0:16:57Based on the knowledge of our panel, who is the densest?
0:17:00 > 0:17:01I liked how they came to
0:17:01 > 0:17:03a conclusion and I would say
0:17:03 > 0:17:05that was the most obscure option,
0:17:05 > 0:17:08so therefore, it could be the one that you wouldn't think.
0:17:08 > 0:17:11So, I'm happy to go with Earth is the densest planet.
0:17:11 > 0:17:14Wow, we're all agreed, Adrian has gone with the panel.
0:17:14 > 0:17:19So, for ?500, is Earth the densest planet?
0:17:21 > 0:17:22GETHIN: It's got to be.
0:17:23 > 0:17:25Yes! It's the correct answer.
0:17:30 > 0:17:32And breathe and relax.
0:17:32 > 0:17:35According to NASA, Earth is the densest planet.
0:17:35 > 0:17:39While Mercury is closer to the Sun, Venus is hotter.
0:17:39 > 0:17:41Gethin Jones. Yes!
0:17:41 > 0:17:44It's important that NASA said it but also Angela Rippon said it,
0:17:44 > 0:17:46so I feel more that's true.
0:17:46 > 0:17:51NASA and Angela Rippon believe that Earth is the densest planet.
0:17:51 > 0:17:54Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune,
0:17:54 > 0:17:58they also have rings so you were right about that as well.
0:17:58 > 0:18:01That is 500 quid that we add to the prize pot,
0:18:01 > 0:18:03you're now up to a total of ?1,000.
0:18:03 > 0:18:05Well done.
0:18:08 > 0:18:09OK,
0:18:09 > 0:18:11here is your second question of the round,
0:18:11 > 0:18:15we can get your prize pot up to 1,500 for our Final Debate.
0:18:15 > 0:18:16Here it comes.
0:18:37 > 0:18:40Now, if only we had someone on the panel who was
0:18:40 > 0:18:42a Radio 1 DJ and also had scored
0:18:42 > 0:18:45a UK number one hit single.
0:18:47 > 0:18:49What are you thinking, Adrian?
0:18:49 > 0:18:53I keep having flashes of Jarvis Cocker at the Brit Awards
0:18:53 > 0:18:54but I think Madonna
0:18:54 > 0:18:56and Michael Jackson
0:18:56 > 0:18:59might both be born in the same year.
0:18:59 > 0:19:02So, you think it could be C, you actually think that Madonna
0:19:02 > 0:19:05and Michael Jackson were born in the same year. Mm-hm.
0:19:05 > 0:19:10All righty, let's go over to our panel. Your debate time starts now.
0:19:10 > 0:19:14So, I agree with Adrian about the Brit Awards appearance,
0:19:14 > 0:19:18that sprung to mind immediately when Jarvis Cocker stormed the stage.
0:19:18 > 0:19:21But I think that was just a performance from Michael Jackson,
0:19:21 > 0:19:23I don't think he was up for an award.
0:19:23 > 0:19:24He's never won a Brit award?
0:19:24 > 0:19:27He's won lots of... Multiple Grammys.
0:19:27 > 0:19:30He's won Grammys, yes. MTV awards.
0:19:30 > 0:19:32He must have won a Brit award.
0:19:32 > 0:19:34Thriller, isn't Thriller the most...?
0:19:34 > 0:19:35They do dole them out, so yeah.
0:19:35 > 0:19:36I mean, I've got a Brit award,
0:19:36 > 0:19:37we've all got a Brit award.
0:19:37 > 0:19:41You're number one? Have you got a Brit award? Yeah, I've got loads.
0:19:41 > 0:19:42I've never got a Brit award.
0:19:42 > 0:19:45Did he sing on the original version of Do They Know It's Christmas?
0:19:45 > 0:19:47No idea. Everybody else did.
0:19:47 > 0:19:50I don't think he did, I don't think that's true.
0:19:50 > 0:19:52All I know is how to dance to Michael Jackson,
0:19:52 > 0:19:56I know nothing else about his music at all, so I defer to you two.
0:19:56 > 0:20:00I believe Madonna is 57.
0:20:00 > 0:20:02Stage age, I don't know.
0:20:02 > 0:20:04I think she's around that age.
0:20:04 > 0:20:07This is really random how I know this but Michael Jackson was born
0:20:07 > 0:20:09the same year as the last time
0:20:09 > 0:20:11the Welsh national football team
0:20:11 > 0:20:14qualified for a major European Championship. That's so niche!
0:20:14 > 0:20:16When was that? 1958.
0:20:16 > 0:20:18When was Madonna born? Don't know.
0:20:18 > 0:20:21OK, so he would be today...
0:20:21 > 0:20:25What year was he born? 1958. '58. 40...
0:20:26 > 0:20:30I think. I've done the maths and she's either 57 or 58
0:20:30 > 0:20:32and I think that's how old he would be now.
0:20:32 > 0:20:34As I say, I have to admit I know
0:20:34 > 0:20:36very little about Michael Jackson
0:20:36 > 0:20:38except how much I enjoy his music.
0:20:38 > 0:20:42So, I defer to your knowledge
0:20:42 > 0:20:44and I think then we'll go with C,
0:20:44 > 0:20:46that he was born in the
0:20:46 > 0:20:47same year as Madonna.
0:20:47 > 0:20:51Born in the same year as Madonna, based on Alice's math.
0:20:52 > 0:20:54What do we think?
0:20:54 > 0:20:56Actually, I think this is probably the strongest question
0:20:56 > 0:20:58I've had in this whole game. Ah.
0:20:58 > 0:21:00And I do know quite a lot about Michael Jackson.
0:21:00 > 0:21:02I think he was born in the same year as Madonna.
0:21:02 > 0:21:04I think that was quite a big year for music,
0:21:04 > 0:21:07I know Bush was born the same year and Prince.
0:21:07 > 0:21:09I even think I know the answer to A.
0:21:09 > 0:21:11I think he sang on We Are The World.
0:21:11 > 0:21:13So, I'm quite confident on this.
0:21:13 > 0:21:15I'm going to go with the team, I think it's C.
0:21:15 > 0:21:18Thank the Lord someone is confident about this.
0:21:19 > 0:21:24You're agreeing with the panel, born in the same year as Madonna.
0:21:24 > 0:21:27To get the prize pot up to 1,500,
0:21:27 > 0:21:30was Michael Jackson born in the same year as Madonna?
0:21:35 > 0:21:36Oh! He was.
0:21:38 > 0:21:40Born in the same year. Well done.
0:21:42 > 0:21:46Both Madonna and Michael Jackson were born in 1958,
0:21:46 > 0:21:50which is the last year... There you go! ..that Wales qualified for...
0:21:51 > 0:21:54He didn't sing on the original Band Aid song,
0:21:54 > 0:21:55Do They Know It's Christmas?
0:21:55 > 0:21:57However, he did sing on We Are The World,
0:21:57 > 0:21:59you were right about that.
0:21:59 > 0:22:01He has won a Brit award.
0:22:01 > 0:22:04There he is with Bob Geldof, Best International Male.
0:22:04 > 0:22:09Best Music Video at the 1989 Brits and at the 1996 awards,
0:22:09 > 0:22:13he was awarded the Artist Of A Generation.
0:22:13 > 0:22:16It means that another 500 goes into your prize pot
0:22:16 > 0:22:18and we're now up to ?1,500. Well done!
0:22:22 > 0:22:26And that's the amount that you are going to be playing for, Adrian,
0:22:26 > 0:22:27in our Final Debate.
0:22:27 > 0:22:30So, quite a nice sum of money. Yes.
0:22:30 > 0:22:32Any plans for that if you managed to bag it?
0:22:32 > 0:22:34I've heard a lot of fun things about Dollywood,
0:22:34 > 0:22:37so that will get me there and that's very exciting.
0:22:37 > 0:22:40And I can even go to the gift shop. You're a Dolly Parton fan? Yeah.
0:22:40 > 0:22:43I love you! She's fantastic.
0:22:43 > 0:22:45And so, how long have you been a Dolly Parton fan?
0:22:45 > 0:22:48It's probably been five years since I've really gotten into the music.
0:22:48 > 0:22:50I've enjoyed... I tried to learn the banjo
0:22:50 > 0:22:52for a while but I didn't get very far with that.
0:22:52 > 0:22:55If I go to Dollywood, I can see people playing banjos for me.
0:22:55 > 0:22:56Yes, you can.
0:22:56 > 0:22:59So, Adrian, a trip to Dollywood up for grabs, there is only
0:22:59 > 0:23:03one question that stands between you and that trip to Dollywood.
0:23:03 > 0:23:05It is the Final Debate.
0:23:05 > 0:23:07Adrian, you've got to face one question,
0:23:07 > 0:23:10that question will have six possible answers.
0:23:10 > 0:23:13We're going to need three correct answers
0:23:13 > 0:23:15in order for you to win the money.
0:23:15 > 0:23:17As before, you're not going to be playing alone but as this is
0:23:17 > 0:23:20the Final Debate, we're going to give you the tricky decision
0:23:20 > 0:23:25of choosing one of these fine upstanding celebrities to help you.
0:23:25 > 0:23:26Once you choose them,
0:23:26 > 0:23:30you will have 45 seconds with your celebrity to debate the answer.
0:23:30 > 0:23:32Who would you like to join you for the Final Debate?
0:23:35 > 0:23:36It's tricky. Erm...
0:23:38 > 0:23:40I can't predict the question.
0:23:40 > 0:23:44So, I'm going to rely on someone who I think will be quite strong
0:23:44 > 0:23:48under pressure and will be able to give quick answers.
0:23:48 > 0:23:50So, I'm going to go with Alice, I think.
0:23:50 > 0:23:54OK, Alice, would you please come and join us for today's Final Debate?
0:23:54 > 0:23:55Go on, Alice!
0:24:01 > 0:24:04So, Alice, Adrian has chosen you for the Final Debate,
0:24:04 > 0:24:06he has confidence in you.
0:24:06 > 0:24:07Do you have confidence in yourself?
0:24:07 > 0:24:10I really don't want to let him down, so I'm going to try and stay
0:24:10 > 0:24:12cool and calm, and I think we're actually quite a good team.
0:24:12 > 0:24:16We have some good shared knowledge and we have different areas as well,
0:24:16 > 0:24:17so I think we're going to be OK.
0:24:17 > 0:24:19OK, it is shared knowledge that it's all about
0:24:19 > 0:24:21and because it's our Final Debate,
0:24:21 > 0:24:24we're going to give you the choice of two subjects for that question.
0:24:27 > 0:24:31Oh! Politics or sport, Adrian? Oh, er...
0:24:31 > 0:24:36Well, pop culture is out of the window. We can rule that out.
0:24:36 > 0:24:40I would be particularly weak at sport. As would I. Yes!
0:24:40 > 0:24:44I think politics, we can do better on. We can do it. OK, I believe you.
0:24:47 > 0:24:50OK, politics, let's lock it in. Here we go.
0:24:50 > 0:24:52For your Final Debate,
0:24:52 > 0:24:56?1,500 up for grabs, 45 seconds on the clock.
0:24:56 > 0:24:59Here comes today's Final Debate question.
0:25:23 > 0:25:28Adrian and Alice, for the final time today, your debate starts now.
0:25:28 > 0:25:31OK, let's discount Gordon Brown. Gordon Brown, gone.
0:25:31 > 0:25:34OK, Margaret Thatcher, how many?
0:25:34 > 0:25:36She was 11. She's up there, isn't she?
0:25:38 > 0:25:41Heath was quite short, I think he was '70-'74.
0:25:41 > 0:25:47Tony Blair was re-elected twice, three times? I think he was long.
0:25:47 > 0:25:50I can't remember which one, one of those two, Wilson or Callaghan,
0:25:50 > 0:25:53one of them got elected twice and I have a feeling it might be Wilson.
0:25:53 > 0:25:55I think you're right. Callaghan was quite short.
0:25:55 > 0:26:00I think he was sort of the tail end of Wilson, followed on from Wilson.
0:26:00 > 0:26:01And then I think it was Thatcher.
0:26:01 > 0:26:03I'm actually quite confident on this.
0:26:03 > 0:26:06I think that sounds like a good answer. I think we can do this.
0:26:06 > 0:26:09The ones that I was discounting are the ones you're discounting
0:26:09 > 0:26:11and the ones that feel like definites are the same for you,
0:26:11 > 0:26:13so, yeah, I think that's good.
0:26:13 > 0:26:14OK, good. Let's send you to Dollywood.
0:26:15 > 0:26:17Adrian, before the question,
0:26:17 > 0:26:19you said politics wasn't your strong point,
0:26:19 > 0:26:20You've now said you think you can do this.
0:26:20 > 0:26:22I need three answers for ?1,500.
0:26:22 > 0:26:25Thank God for A-levels years ago!
0:26:25 > 0:26:26I think it's...
0:26:26 > 0:26:31I think Wilson, Thatcher, Blair.
0:26:32 > 0:26:35Wilson, Thatcher, Blair.
0:26:35 > 0:26:38If those three Prime Ministers were in office for the longest time,
0:26:38 > 0:26:41it's ?1,500, we're all off to Dollywood!
0:26:42 > 0:26:45If one of them is incorrect,
0:26:45 > 0:26:47then I'm afraid you do leave with
0:26:47 > 0:26:48nothing. Best of luck, here we go.
0:26:48 > 0:26:50Let's start with Margaret Thatcher.
0:26:50 > 0:26:53Was Margaret Thatcher one of the three Prime Ministers
0:26:53 > 0:26:55who were in office for the longest time?
0:26:59 > 0:27:00She was!
0:27:02 > 0:27:03She was,
0:27:03 > 0:27:06she was in office for 11 years.
0:27:06 > 0:27:08Next, Tony Blair.
0:27:08 > 0:27:10Was Tony Blair one of
0:27:10 > 0:27:12the three Prime Ministers
0:27:12 > 0:27:14in office for the longest time?
0:27:14 > 0:27:15To keep us on track for ?1,500.
0:27:23 > 0:27:24Yes! He was!
0:27:27 > 0:27:32In office for ten years, one less than Margaret Thatcher.
0:27:32 > 0:27:34And finally, you went for Harold Wilson.
0:27:34 > 0:27:37You were between Harold Wilson and James Callaghan.
0:27:37 > 0:27:40If Harold Wilson is the correct answer, it's ?1,500.
0:27:40 > 0:27:44Is Harold Wilson one of the three Prime Ministers up there
0:27:44 > 0:27:46who were in office for the longest time?
0:27:56 > 0:27:58Harold Wilson is the correct answer! Yeah!
0:27:59 > 0:28:01Well played. Oh, my God.
0:28:01 > 0:28:03Congratulations, well done.
0:28:03 > 0:28:06Harold Wilson just shy of eight years.
0:28:06 > 0:28:09You've won ?1,500. We're all off to Dollywood!
0:28:11 > 0:28:14Well done. Wow. Congratulations.
0:28:14 > 0:28:16That is it for Debatable.
0:28:16 > 0:28:19There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel -
0:28:19 > 0:28:21Alice Levine, well done,
0:28:21 > 0:28:23Gethin Jones and Angela Rippon.
0:28:25 > 0:28:27I hope you've enjoyed watching and we will see you next time
0:28:27 > 0:28:29for more heated debates.
0:28:29 > 0:28:31For now, it's goodbye from me.
0:29:19 > 0:29:19# Can you give me the fame?
0:29:19 > 0:29:19# Can you hurl me the game...
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