0:00:10 > 0:00:14APPLAUSE
0:00:14 > 0:00:15Hello and welcome to Debatable,
0:00:15 > 0:00:18the quiz show that proves when it comes to celebrity chat,
0:00:18 > 0:00:21you can never get too much of a good thing.
0:00:21 > 0:00:25Today, our panel of celebrities will try and help one contestant debate
0:00:25 > 0:00:28their way to a jackpot of ?2,000,
0:00:28 > 0:00:31but will they help or will they hinder?
0:00:31 > 0:00:33That's debatable. So let's meet them.
0:00:35 > 0:00:38On today's show, we have comedian Susan Calman,
0:00:38 > 0:00:44entrepreneur Peter Jones and hip-hop artist and writer Akala.
0:00:44 > 0:00:45APPLAUSE
0:00:47 > 0:00:49That's our panel. Let's see who is playing today.
0:00:49 > 0:00:52It is Thom Cosgrove from Northampton.
0:00:52 > 0:00:55APPLAUSE
0:00:55 > 0:00:56Welcome to the show, Thom.
0:00:56 > 0:00:59Thanks very much. How are you doing, fella? Yeah, really good.
0:00:59 > 0:01:02Good, good. Tell us a little bit about yourself. I'm Thom Cosgrove, I'm 27.
0:01:02 > 0:01:06I'm from Northampton. And I work as part of the patient safety team at
0:01:06 > 0:01:08Northamptonshire NHS. What do you do in your spare time?
0:01:08 > 0:01:10I am a very keen gardener,
0:01:10 > 0:01:13which, for somebody my age, is not really a manly thing,
0:01:13 > 0:01:16but I just woke up one morning and loved gardening.
0:01:16 > 0:01:20Whenever you go into your garden, do your plants grow as well as your facial hair?
0:01:20 > 0:01:23Because this is probably one of the most magnificent beards we have ever
0:01:23 > 0:01:26had on the show, Thom. That is very good work. APPLAUSE
0:01:26 > 0:01:29It really is. I only shaved yesterday, so it's just like Desperate Dan.
0:01:29 > 0:01:34This is actually more hair than I could ever grow in my entire lifetime.
0:01:34 > 0:01:38What subjects are you hoping that are going to come up today? Music's a real strong point.
0:01:38 > 0:01:40Sport. Maybe geography as well.
0:01:40 > 0:01:42Like flags and capitals, things like that, I'm quite good at.
0:01:42 > 0:01:44Hip-hop, not so great. Well, to be honest with you,
0:01:44 > 0:01:48Peter Jones is a massive hip-hop fan, so he'll be able to sort all that out himself.
0:01:48 > 0:01:50What's hip-hop? LAUGHTER
0:01:50 > 0:01:54It's a fusion form of music. It's a bit like, "I did a hip-hop, the hippie, the hippie...
0:01:54 > 0:01:57"..you don't stop rocking till the bang bang boogie, say, up to the boogie,
0:01:57 > 0:02:01"to the boogie, the beat." Is it a bit like that? That was very impressive. Sugarhill Gang.
0:02:01 > 0:02:05That was very impressive. About 40 years ago, it was that, yeah.
0:02:05 > 0:02:07Who knew Peter Jones was so down?
0:02:07 > 0:02:09That's quality. I mean, he's proper down.
0:02:09 > 0:02:11I had no idea he had that up his sleeve.
0:02:11 > 0:02:13Thom, there's really nowhere left to go after that,
0:02:13 > 0:02:16apart from say, let's play Debatable, and here's round one.
0:02:19 > 0:02:21This round, Thom, is multiple choice.
0:02:21 > 0:02:24Four possible answers, only one of them is correct.
0:02:24 > 0:02:27Helping you find the answer is our panel.
0:02:27 > 0:02:30Will you go with what they say or will you go your own way?
0:02:30 > 0:02:32It is entirely up to you.
0:02:32 > 0:02:33Two questions in this round.
0:02:33 > 0:02:36Each correct answer is worth ?200, so let's get cracking.
0:02:36 > 0:02:38Here we go.
0:03:00 > 0:03:04Hm. I would probably be leaning towards Theodore Roosevelt,
0:03:04 > 0:03:07Teddy Roosevelt, as he was probably a little bit later than the others.
0:03:07 > 0:03:11So maybe I'd say Lincoln, Washington and Hoover are probably a
0:03:11 > 0:03:13little bit earlier, maybe more chance of them.
0:03:13 > 0:03:15OK, so you're leaning towards Roosevelt.
0:03:15 > 0:03:17Let's see what our panel make of this.
0:03:17 > 0:03:20For the first time today, your debate starts now.
0:03:20 > 0:03:22Has anyone been? Have you been?
0:03:22 > 0:03:25Well, I'm embarrassed, I'm about to say yes, I have been.
0:03:27 > 0:03:28Do you remember anything that happened?
0:03:28 > 0:03:30I know that there's four.
0:03:30 > 0:03:32Right. That's a start.
0:03:32 > 0:03:36And I definitely remember, even though Thom said Roosevelt,
0:03:36 > 0:03:39I do remember Roosevelt and Washington.
0:03:39 > 0:03:41Yeah. But that is it. I genuinely don't know.
0:03:41 > 0:03:44So, I've only ever seen Mount Rushmore in The Simpsons,
0:03:44 > 0:03:47which I don't think counts as documentary evidence.
0:03:47 > 0:03:50Mount Rushmore, as I understand it,
0:03:50 > 0:03:53it's kind of commemorating great presidents.
0:03:53 > 0:03:55Hoover, whilst he was a president,
0:03:55 > 0:03:59is not spoken in the same way as the other three.
0:03:59 > 0:04:03If I were leaning towards excluding any, I would go for Hoover,
0:04:03 > 0:04:04just for the same reasons.
0:04:04 > 0:04:08Given that they've got the Lincoln Memorial, given that Lincoln is,
0:04:08 > 0:04:12you know, credited as one of their greatest presidents,
0:04:12 > 0:04:15that he would not be on Mount Rushmore, whereas, you know,
0:04:15 > 0:04:19they've got the Hoover Dam, but that just stops water going places.
0:04:19 > 0:04:23I just don't think, in any of my mind palace which I have,
0:04:23 > 0:04:26is Herbert Hoover on Mount Rushmore.
0:04:26 > 0:04:29I think that's good for me. Yeah. Let's do it. Well, as a panel,
0:04:29 > 0:04:32we have decided the President that does not have
0:04:32 > 0:04:34his face carved into the
0:04:34 > 0:04:36side of Mount Rushmore is Herbert Hoover.
0:04:38 > 0:04:39You see, Thom, what you really needed
0:04:39 > 0:04:41was a member of the panel who had
0:04:41 > 0:04:43actually visited Mount Rushmore. LAUGHTER
0:04:43 > 0:04:47And then remembered what was there.
0:04:47 > 0:04:49I'm so embarrassed. How did that day in your holiday go?
0:04:49 > 0:04:51It's a very embarrassing moment.
0:04:51 > 0:04:55It's not an embarrassing moment, Susan Calman has a mind palace,
0:04:55 > 0:04:58that she keeps spick and span.
0:04:58 > 0:05:01Well, it's just a way of trying to keep all the information, isn't it?
0:05:01 > 0:05:05I have a mind shed! Hasn't been tidied in years.
0:05:05 > 0:05:07I've got a cupboard. A cupboard.
0:05:07 > 0:05:09I like that. Now, has any of that helped?
0:05:09 > 0:05:13Yes. I think the logical process that was done there,
0:05:13 > 0:05:16despite the fact that you've been...
0:05:16 > 0:05:19I think that Herbert Hoover, I'd like to lock that in as well.
0:05:19 > 0:05:22OK, so you're locking that in. Thom, you're going with our panel.
0:05:22 > 0:05:26To get us up and running, ?200, the correct answer is...
0:05:31 > 0:05:32It is Herbert Hoover!
0:05:32 > 0:05:34APPLAUSE
0:05:34 > 0:05:36Well done! Good work, guys.
0:05:36 > 0:05:38Thank you. Good work, the mind palace. Well done. Yes.
0:05:38 > 0:05:43Jefferson was the other US President whose face was carved into the side
0:05:43 > 0:05:49of Mount Rushmore. The eyes of each president are 11ft wide.
0:05:49 > 0:05:52And their mouths are approximately 18ft wide.
0:05:52 > 0:05:56Still not big enough for Peter Jones to remember...
0:05:56 > 0:05:57LAUGHTER
0:05:57 > 0:05:59..who they were. And well done, Thom.
0:05:59 > 0:06:01?200 in the prize pot.
0:06:01 > 0:06:03APPLAUSE
0:06:05 > 0:06:08OK, well played, everyone. Here comes your next question.
0:06:26 > 0:06:30Wow! I can honestly say that I've not heard of any of those melons.
0:06:32 > 0:06:36I would have to lean towards maybe a clove melon.
0:06:36 > 0:06:39I think that sounds like a thing. Just sounds reasonable. Yeah.
0:06:39 > 0:06:42Clove melon. OK. Clove is the first thought.
0:06:42 > 0:06:45Panel, the debate starts now.
0:06:45 > 0:06:48Well, team, we're going to have to dig deep here, I have no idea.
0:06:48 > 0:06:51The only thing, when Thom said that,
0:06:51 > 0:06:53do you think it's the shape of the melon?
0:06:53 > 0:06:56You know, nutmeg and clove...
0:06:56 > 0:06:58are an actual...
0:06:58 > 0:07:00are rounder. Maybe it's the shape of the melon,
0:07:00 > 0:07:03rather than the colour or the taste of the melon.
0:07:03 > 0:07:05Maybe it's how it looks.
0:07:05 > 0:07:08If it was that, it wouldn't be ginger, because ginger's
0:07:08 > 0:07:10not round. Not melon-shaped.
0:07:10 > 0:07:13Not melon-shaped. Cinnamon is a stick.
0:07:13 > 0:07:16So it would be clove or nutmeg because those two are kind of,
0:07:16 > 0:07:18if not circular, then they are spherical.
0:07:18 > 0:07:20Nutmeg melon doesn't have any ring to it.
0:07:20 > 0:07:23It just doesn't sound right. Clove melon... Clove melon does.
0:07:23 > 0:07:27Ginger melon, sound-wise, sounds like it could work.
0:07:27 > 0:07:29Unsuccessful... But I think nutmeg and cinnamon, cinnamon melon.
0:07:29 > 0:07:32You're right. Cinnamon melon is not going to work, is it?
0:07:32 > 0:07:34And nutmeg melon doesn't either.
0:07:34 > 0:07:36Ginger melon sounds like it could be a thing.
0:07:36 > 0:07:38Clove melon sounds like it could be a thing.
0:07:38 > 0:07:41But we've got to decide, it's really a guess.
0:07:41 > 0:07:46Shall we go with clove? Yeah, I think it's unfortunately a punt.
0:07:46 > 0:07:50Well, the panel have decided, not particularly convincingly,
0:07:50 > 0:07:51but we're going to suggest...
0:07:53 > 0:07:55..that the answer is clove.
0:07:56 > 0:07:59So, the panel have brought great knowledge to this one.
0:07:59 > 0:08:03Based on the fact that it could sound right.
0:08:03 > 0:08:07Any help? I think my incoherent ramblings have been backed
0:08:07 > 0:08:10up, I think. I think I'm very happy with clove.
0:08:10 > 0:08:15So, your incoherent ramblings have been backed up by more incoherent
0:08:15 > 0:08:17ramblings. Essentially. And we're all agreed.
0:08:17 > 0:08:20Yeah. All right, it's a punt in the dark.
0:08:20 > 0:08:25Clove. Is clove, for ?200, the correct answer?
0:08:31 > 0:08:33Oh! It was nutmeg! It was nutmeg.
0:08:33 > 0:08:36Wow! You did say nutmeg, didn't you? OK, unfortunately,
0:08:36 > 0:08:39you didn't manage to bank anything for that question and that means that
0:08:39 > 0:08:41the total sum banked at the end of round one, Thom, is ?200.
0:08:41 > 0:08:44Well done. Well done.
0:08:44 > 0:08:46APPLAUSE
0:08:46 > 0:08:47Let's see how they cope with pictures.
0:08:47 > 0:08:49It's time for round two.
0:08:52 > 0:08:54OK, Thom, round two is our picture round.
0:08:54 > 0:08:58All you have to do is place three pictures in the correct order.
0:08:58 > 0:09:00It sounds simple, but it isn't.
0:09:00 > 0:09:03There are two questions in this round.
0:09:03 > 0:09:05Each correct answer is worth ?300.
0:09:05 > 0:09:06So, here we go.
0:09:25 > 0:09:27Not too dissatisfied with that question.
0:09:27 > 0:09:31Football would definitely be one of my strong suits.
0:09:31 > 0:09:35So I'd go France, Uruguay, Italy.
0:09:35 > 0:09:36That's your first thought.
0:09:36 > 0:09:40If only we had someone that almost played professional football on the
0:09:40 > 0:09:45panel. Panel, your debate starts now. OK.
0:09:45 > 0:09:47Well, Thom is absolutely correct.
0:09:47 > 0:09:50A lot of people tend to forget that Uruguay did win the World Cup
0:09:50 > 0:09:53twice in the '30s, when it started, in the pre-war years,
0:09:53 > 0:09:56so they got two early wins in and have never won it since.
0:09:56 > 0:09:58France, you would think might have won it more times,
0:09:58 > 0:09:59only won it the once, in '98.
0:09:59 > 0:10:02And Italy have won it the most times, other than Brazil,
0:10:02 > 0:10:04so they're the second-most frequent winners of the World Cup.
0:10:04 > 0:10:08That is impressive. I only remember France in '98 because that was the
0:10:08 > 0:10:11time... I lost my business in '96, lost everything, actually.
0:10:11 > 0:10:14And I was sleeping rough in a warehouse
0:10:14 > 0:10:17and I started again in 1998 and
0:10:17 > 0:10:20tried to get myself back on my feet. I remember, that year, France
0:10:20 > 0:10:22winning the World Cup.
0:10:22 > 0:10:24But that's the end of my knowledge, in terms of football.
0:10:24 > 0:10:29Well, Scottish World Cup knowledge is... Yup.
0:10:29 > 0:10:32So we haven't been really fantastic and...
0:10:32 > 0:10:35your knowledge, straightaway...
0:10:35 > 0:10:38I'm going to go with whatever you say.
0:10:38 > 0:10:41Tom's definitely right. I'm 100% confident on this one.
0:10:41 > 0:10:43So, starting with the fewest wins.
0:10:43 > 0:10:45That would be France.
0:10:45 > 0:10:47Then Uruguay. Then Uruguay.
0:10:47 > 0:10:49Then Italy.
0:10:49 > 0:10:52It's so refreshing to have that vindicated by somebody else.
0:10:52 > 0:10:55You could just think, "Hold on, am I talking complete rubbish?"
0:10:55 > 0:10:57But no. Yeah, very happy with that.
0:10:57 > 0:10:59OK, here we go.
0:10:59 > 0:11:02You said France...
0:11:02 > 0:11:05then Uruguay, then Italy.
0:11:07 > 0:11:09For ?300, is that the correct order?
0:11:13 > 0:11:16It is the correct order. Well done. APPLAUSE
0:11:16 > 0:11:18Good knowledge, Thom. Good knowledge, panel.
0:11:18 > 0:11:21And you were absolutely right, Thom.
0:11:21 > 0:11:25France has won it once, Uruguay has won it twice,
0:11:25 > 0:11:28Italy has won it four times.
0:11:28 > 0:11:31The Fifa World Cup has been won by eight different national teams.
0:11:31 > 0:11:34Brazil has won it the most, five times,
0:11:34 > 0:11:37they are the only team to have played in every tournament.
0:11:37 > 0:11:41So, 300 quid has been added to the prize pot, giving you a total, Thom,
0:11:41 > 0:11:44of ?500. Very well done.
0:11:44 > 0:11:46APPLAUSE
0:11:46 > 0:11:49Let's have a little look at your second picture question.
0:11:49 > 0:11:50Here it comes.
0:12:08 > 0:12:09Strictly fan, Thom?
0:12:09 > 0:12:12No. My mother-in-law is, so she's going to be yelling at the telly.
0:12:12 > 0:12:18My gut is saying Kaplinsky, Ramprakash, Smith.
0:12:18 > 0:12:20But, yeah, that's a real gut decision.
0:12:20 > 0:12:22All right, that is his first thought.
0:12:22 > 0:12:24He's got no Strictly knowledge.
0:12:24 > 0:12:27I have never watched an episode of Strictly in my life, I must confess,
0:12:27 > 0:12:29so this is definitely over to you two.
0:12:29 > 0:12:31I'm completely useless. Have you ever watched Strictly?
0:12:31 > 0:12:35Love it. Want to be on it. It's my dream. Peter? I love it.
0:12:35 > 0:12:37I watch it and I'm a big fan.
0:12:37 > 0:12:40OK. So, panel, your debate starts now.
0:12:40 > 0:12:43Thom's right about Louis Smith. Absolutely correct.
0:12:43 > 0:12:44Most recent. Most recent.
0:12:44 > 0:12:47It's between Ramprakash and Kaplinsky.
0:12:47 > 0:12:50Now, Kaplinsky,
0:12:50 > 0:12:54I think was the earliest because she was the first one to win it,
0:12:54 > 0:12:57big hoo-ha, changed channels.
0:12:57 > 0:12:59Went from the BBC... To Channel Five.
0:12:59 > 0:13:02They then started getting sportsmen involved in it.
0:13:02 > 0:13:07After that, when they had cricketers and rugby players and things.
0:13:07 > 0:13:10So, just my gut is Kaplinsky first,
0:13:10 > 0:13:12then Ramprakash, then Louis Smith.
0:13:12 > 0:13:15What do you think? I told you, I've never watched a single episode.
0:13:15 > 0:13:19Totally agree? Yeah, all I can give you is cool, whatever you say goes.
0:13:19 > 0:13:21Are you a good dancer? Absolutely not. Neither am I.
0:13:21 > 0:13:24Doesn't stop me wanting to go on Strictly.
0:13:24 > 0:13:26Actually, I did Strictly Sport Relief.
0:13:26 > 0:13:28Did you? Surprised everybody.
0:13:28 > 0:13:30And I was against Duncan Bannatyne as well in the final.
0:13:30 > 0:13:33Did you do the ballroom or the Latin?
0:13:33 > 0:13:36I did the ballroom. I want to see you doing the Latin.
0:13:36 > 0:13:39I practise the Latin in my kitchen.
0:13:39 > 0:13:41You've got to go on Strictly.
0:13:41 > 0:13:43I'm sure this isn't what they do.
0:13:43 > 0:13:45But that's what I do in my kitchen.
0:13:45 > 0:13:49Anyway. I think you're right because Natasha was BBC at the time.
0:13:49 > 0:13:52Yeah. It was pretty early on in those years.
0:13:52 > 0:13:54And I think she's definitely the first.
0:13:54 > 0:13:57OK, so Kaplinsky here.
0:13:57 > 0:14:00So the panel have decided, starting with the first,
0:14:00 > 0:14:02is Natasha Kaplinsky,
0:14:02 > 0:14:04Mark Ramprakash and Louis Smith.
0:14:06 > 0:14:08So, Akala's sitting this dance out.
0:14:08 > 0:14:12However, Peter and Susan have come up with the order.
0:14:12 > 0:14:13I don't know what I'd rather see,
0:14:13 > 0:14:16snake hips Jones or Susan dancing in her kitchen.
0:14:16 > 0:14:18We could combine them. We could do both. We could do both.
0:14:18 > 0:14:22I think this could work. I mean, if you'd like to stand up...
0:14:23 > 0:14:26This could work as a dance partnership right here.
0:14:28 > 0:14:30It's almost too sexy for TV.
0:14:30 > 0:14:31LAUGHTER
0:14:31 > 0:14:33It is pre-watershed. Yeah.
0:14:33 > 0:14:36But I'm really happy that they've backed up my decision.
0:14:36 > 0:14:39And what Susan said about the sportsmen coming in a bit later.
0:14:39 > 0:14:41To start with, they were a bit of a novelty.
0:14:41 > 0:14:44They'd have some gangly cricketer or some rugby player that couldn't
0:14:44 > 0:14:46dance. But, yeah, I'm very happy with that.
0:14:46 > 0:14:48OK, you're agreeing with the panel.
0:14:48 > 0:14:51You're going Kaplinsky first, then Ramprakash,
0:14:51 > 0:14:54and latest winner, Louis Smith.
0:14:54 > 0:14:57That's it. Here we go.
0:14:57 > 0:15:00Locked in for ?300, is that the correct answer?
0:15:06 > 0:15:08It is the correct answer.
0:15:08 > 0:15:10Well done. Very well played.
0:15:10 > 0:15:12Let's have a look at the years.
0:15:13 > 0:15:16Here we go. Natasha Kaplinsky 2004,
0:15:16 > 0:15:18then Mark Ramprakash, 2006.
0:15:18 > 0:15:22Louis Smith after the Olympics, 2012.
0:15:22 > 0:15:25And the BBC will love Peter and Susan for pointing out that
0:15:25 > 0:15:30Natasha Kaplinsky was a huge star at the BBC when she won and then moved
0:15:30 > 0:15:33to an inferior channel and the rest is history.
0:15:33 > 0:15:37Well done, there. Extra points, and a possible commission from the BBC
0:15:37 > 0:15:39for that. Well played.
0:15:39 > 0:15:40Well worked out, guys.
0:15:40 > 0:15:43At the end of that round, your prize pot is up to ?800.
0:15:46 > 0:15:48Very nice work.
0:15:48 > 0:15:51So, is the panel proving useful?
0:15:51 > 0:15:54Very useful. Lots of people dipping in and out.
0:15:54 > 0:15:56And I like saying, "Look, I don't know this," and when you do know it,
0:15:56 > 0:15:59bang, straight in with the facts. You can only choose one of them
0:15:59 > 0:16:01to play your final debate. Yeah.
0:16:01 > 0:16:04Who do you think that would be, based on current performance?
0:16:04 > 0:16:05Based on current performance,
0:16:05 > 0:16:08I think it would have to be Susan with her mind palace.
0:16:08 > 0:16:10OK, the mind palace.
0:16:10 > 0:16:14There's still another ?1,000 up for grabs as we play round three.
0:16:17 > 0:16:19All right, Thom. In this round,
0:16:19 > 0:16:22you will face questions that contain three statements about a person,
0:16:22 > 0:16:23a place, or a thing.
0:16:23 > 0:16:25Only one of those statements is true.
0:16:25 > 0:16:28And you must decide which one it is.
0:16:28 > 0:16:30It is our final round, so we're going to up the cash
0:16:30 > 0:16:34to ?500 a correct answer. So, best of luck.
0:16:34 > 0:16:35Here we go.
0:16:36 > 0:16:37Which statement is true
0:16:37 > 0:16:39about William Shakespeare?
0:16:55 > 0:16:57Dabbled in a little bit of Shakespeare myself at primary
0:16:57 > 0:17:00school. I was in Twelfth Night and Midsummer Night's Dream,
0:17:00 > 0:17:03so I should know a little bit more about him than I do.
0:17:03 > 0:17:04If I had to go with my gut,
0:17:04 > 0:17:07I'd say that he was a shareholder in the Globe Theatre.
0:17:07 > 0:17:09All right. You are thinking A.
0:17:09 > 0:17:12Let's see if our panel can shed any light on this.
0:17:12 > 0:17:14Your debate starts now.
0:17:14 > 0:17:17Well, I think we have a resident historian luckily sitting right next to us.
0:17:17 > 0:17:20Luckily, we have someone who knows quite a lot about Shakespeare.
0:17:20 > 0:17:22Yeah, I've got a music theatre and education company called
0:17:22 > 0:17:25The Hip-Hop Shakespeare Company, so if I didn't know this,
0:17:25 > 0:17:26I'd probably get in a lot of trouble.
0:17:26 > 0:17:29Though it is kind of tricky, cos I do remember something about
0:17:29 > 0:17:31planets and being named after characters,
0:17:31 > 0:17:32but he 100% was a shareholder in the Globe.
0:17:32 > 0:17:36There are 18 comedies of 36, 37 plays.
0:17:36 > 0:17:38Because there's histories as well,
0:17:38 > 0:17:41there's no way even just mathematically that he could have
0:17:41 > 0:17:43written more tragedies than comedies. So it definitely isn't B.
0:17:43 > 0:17:46It definitely is A.
0:17:46 > 0:17:47So we can write off C as well.
0:17:47 > 0:17:52And I was going to say all of those things as well, but I mean,
0:17:52 > 0:17:53you just got in just before me.
0:17:54 > 0:17:58Yes, I mean, you know your stuff.
0:17:58 > 0:18:00It's definitely... 100%, he was a shareholder in the Globe.
0:18:00 > 0:18:02You can't get better than that, 100%.
0:18:02 > 0:18:04We could argue this for a long time.
0:18:04 > 0:18:07It makes sense that he's slightly entrepreneurial because his father,
0:18:07 > 0:18:09I'm pretty sure, was a glove maker.
0:18:09 > 0:18:10OK. He had his own business.
0:18:10 > 0:18:12Yeah, There you are. Anyway, so the answer
0:18:12 > 0:18:17is definitely 100% that he was a shareholder in the Globe Theatre.
0:18:17 > 0:18:22So, Thom, we have some expert knowledge from our panel.
0:18:22 > 0:18:25Can't beat 100%. Doesn't get a lot better than that.
0:18:25 > 0:18:28It doesn't. Yeah, I'm going to lock in A.
0:18:28 > 0:18:32Very happy. OK, you're very happy to agree with the panel.
0:18:32 > 0:18:36We're saying that Shakespeare was a shareholder in the Globe Theatre.
0:18:36 > 0:18:39If this is wrong... I'll be in big trouble, won't I?
0:18:40 > 0:18:42Here we go, for ?500, the correct answer is:
0:18:47 > 0:18:48It is the correct answer.
0:18:48 > 0:18:51Well played, Akala. Well played, Thom.
0:18:52 > 0:18:55He was a shareholder in the Globe Theatre.
0:18:55 > 0:18:59He actually came on Dragons' Den and tried to sell a shareholding of the
0:18:59 > 0:19:02Globe Theatre, but Peter Jones bid him down to 10%.
0:19:02 > 0:19:04LAUGHTER
0:19:04 > 0:19:07He actually owned... Do we know how much he owned?
0:19:07 > 0:19:0912%-ish?
0:19:09 > 0:19:1212.5% of the Globe.
0:19:12 > 0:19:14So, well played, Thom.
0:19:14 > 0:19:18You've added ?500 to the prize pot and you're now up to ?1,300.
0:19:18 > 0:19:19Well done.
0:19:22 > 0:19:24Still 500 up for grabs.
0:19:24 > 0:19:27This is our final question before the final debate.
0:19:30 > 0:19:33Which statement is true about Andre Agassi?
0:19:46 > 0:19:47I think he never wore a wig.
0:19:47 > 0:19:49But I know he used to have quite long hair.
0:19:49 > 0:19:53I think Superbrat is McEnroe, so I would say B.
0:19:53 > 0:19:56So by a process of elimination, you think B.
0:19:56 > 0:20:00Yeah. If only we had someone who used to be a tennis player
0:20:00 > 0:20:01on the panel.
0:20:01 > 0:20:03Hi. Peter Jones. No, no, sorry.
0:20:03 > 0:20:04LAUGHTER
0:20:04 > 0:20:05Over to you guys.
0:20:05 > 0:20:07Panel, the debate starts now.
0:20:07 > 0:20:11Well, yes, so I started my first business as a tennis academy at 16.
0:20:11 > 0:20:13I do know the answer to this question.
0:20:13 > 0:20:15It was out in his autobiography. Yeah.
0:20:15 > 0:20:17His autobiography was called Open.
0:20:17 > 0:20:18It was heart-wrenching.
0:20:18 > 0:20:21In fact, I cried in certain sections of reading it.
0:20:21 > 0:20:24It's an amazing story, but the truth of it is that actually,
0:20:24 > 0:20:28he did wear a wig. Yeah. And I think it was the first time in 1990,
0:20:28 > 0:20:30from memory, in a Grand Slam final.
0:20:30 > 0:20:33Well, for a start, we know that Superbrat is McEnroe.
0:20:33 > 0:20:37Yes. He did win the French Open, which is on... Is it clay?
0:20:37 > 0:20:38On clay. Yeah.
0:20:38 > 0:20:40And he was quite a good clay player.
0:20:40 > 0:20:42He was a brilliant clay court and hard court player.
0:20:42 > 0:20:44So he won the French Open. And he was a troubled guy.
0:20:44 > 0:20:48Yeah, he used to wake up in the morning and he used to find that his
0:20:48 > 0:20:52hair would literally be lying on the pillow, and he got so torn apart by
0:20:52 > 0:20:55it that he just decided, that's it, I'm going to go and wear a wig.
0:20:55 > 0:20:58Yeah. So, are we...? Yeah. I'm happy with the wig.
0:20:58 > 0:21:02Are we all agreed? With the autobiography knowledge there. Yeah.
0:21:02 > 0:21:03Happy with that.
0:21:03 > 0:21:08So the panel have decided that 100% Andre Agassi
0:21:08 > 0:21:10used to wear a wig whilst playing tennis.
0:21:11 > 0:21:15OK, Thom. You thought by a process of elimination that wearing a wig
0:21:15 > 0:21:17and Superbrat were not options.
0:21:17 > 0:21:19After hearing our panel, has that made you change your mind?
0:21:19 > 0:21:21Yes, again, you can't really argue with 100%.
0:21:21 > 0:21:25I feel like a bit of a fraud here, just feeding off the panel,
0:21:25 > 0:21:28but, yeah, I'm very happy to go with that. I always thought that he just
0:21:28 > 0:21:30went the transition of having quite long hair
0:21:30 > 0:21:32to then sort of being a bald man.
0:21:32 > 0:21:34So if there was a wig in between, that skipped me by.
0:21:34 > 0:21:36But really not my generation.
0:21:36 > 0:21:38But very happy with the panel's decision there.
0:21:38 > 0:21:40So you're changing your mind? Yes, please.
0:21:40 > 0:21:43From never won the French Open, you are going with the panel.
0:21:43 > 0:21:46We're saying that Andre Agassi used to wear a wig while playing matches.
0:21:46 > 0:21:48For ?500.
0:21:48 > 0:21:49There it is. It's locked in.
0:21:49 > 0:21:51The correct answer is...
0:21:56 > 0:22:00Yes, he did used to wear a wig.
0:22:00 > 0:22:01Whilst playing matches.
0:22:01 > 0:22:04Correctly read, Peter, in his autobiography.
0:22:04 > 0:22:07He said that he wore it during his first Grand Slam final,
0:22:07 > 0:22:10which was the French Open, on clay in 1990.
0:22:10 > 0:22:15He clamped the wig on with 20 clips and he lost the match.
0:22:15 > 0:22:17But you have not lost the question.
0:22:17 > 0:22:19Very well played, Thom. That's ?500 in the prize pot.
0:22:19 > 0:22:23It means you're going to be playing for ?1,800 in our final debate!
0:22:23 > 0:22:25Well done.
0:22:28 > 0:22:32So, if you win the money, Thom, what would you like to do with that?
0:22:32 > 0:22:34I am just coming up to my first wedding anniversary.
0:22:34 > 0:22:36So it would be really nice to take my wife, Charlotte,
0:22:36 > 0:22:39away somewhere special for that, maybe if I don't win the money,
0:22:39 > 0:22:41it'd be more likely to be Skegness.
0:22:41 > 0:22:43But we'll try our best.
0:22:43 > 0:22:46You old romantic, you. I know!
0:22:46 > 0:22:49Well, look, there's just one question that stands between you and
0:22:49 > 0:22:52the money and that is today's final debate.
0:22:52 > 0:22:54Now, in the final debate, there's only one question
0:22:54 > 0:22:57with six possible answers.
0:22:57 > 0:23:00I need three correct answers in order to win the money.
0:23:00 > 0:23:02As before, you're not going to be playing alone,
0:23:02 > 0:23:06this is the final debate. So you can access the knowledge
0:23:06 > 0:23:08of one of these fine human beings to help you.
0:23:08 > 0:23:12You and your panellist will have 45 seconds to debate the question.
0:23:12 > 0:23:16So, who would you like to join you in today's final debate?
0:23:22 > 0:23:24I think they've all done amazingly well.
0:23:24 > 0:23:27They've all, in their own rights, bailed me out at points that
0:23:27 > 0:23:31I really, really needed them. But I think it's going to be Susan.
0:23:31 > 0:23:32The mind palace!
0:23:32 > 0:23:35The mind palace. OK.
0:23:35 > 0:23:38So, Susan, would you please join us for today's final debate. Yes.
0:23:44 > 0:23:47OK, Susan, Thom has chosen you for this final debate.
0:23:47 > 0:23:49Ready to rock? Absolutely.
0:23:49 > 0:23:52All I can do is try my best.
0:23:52 > 0:23:55It's quite a lot of pressure but obviously it's lovely,
0:23:55 > 0:23:58first anniversary, wants to take his wife away.
0:23:59 > 0:24:01And I could ruin everything.
0:24:01 > 0:24:04I feel like I should invite them up to Glasgow if we don't win the money
0:24:04 > 0:24:05and I'll put them up in my house.
0:24:05 > 0:24:07OK, Thom, here we go.
0:24:07 > 0:24:09Two categories to choose from in our final debate.
0:24:09 > 0:24:10Here they are.
0:24:12 > 0:24:16Royalty. And the theatre.
0:24:18 > 0:24:20That couldn't have gone any worse.
0:24:21 > 0:24:23Do you know a lot about royalty?
0:24:24 > 0:24:26Do you know a lot about the theatre?
0:24:28 > 0:24:30No.
0:24:30 > 0:24:32Oh, man.
0:24:32 > 0:24:35I probably know more about the theatre.
0:24:35 > 0:24:37I think I am going to have to go for theatre.
0:24:38 > 0:24:39Begrudgingly.
0:24:40 > 0:24:44OK, let's hope Susan can chip in on this one for you.
0:24:44 > 0:24:45You know very little, you say,
0:24:45 > 0:24:48about either of these but you're going for theatre.
0:24:48 > 0:24:49OK.
0:24:50 > 0:24:52?1,800 up for grabs.
0:24:52 > 0:24:54Best of luck, Thom.
0:24:54 > 0:24:58Here is today's 45-second final debate question. OK.
0:25:07 > 0:25:08OK.
0:25:24 > 0:25:26Thom and Susan, for the final time today,
0:25:26 > 0:25:28your 45-second debate starts now.
0:25:28 > 0:25:30OK. Matilda, yes, I think.
0:25:30 > 0:25:32OK. It's not Viva Forever!...
0:25:32 > 0:25:34That's the Spice Girls one, isn't it?
0:25:34 > 0:25:35..or The Bodyguard, yeah,
0:25:35 > 0:25:37The Bodyguard, I don't think it was either.
0:25:37 > 0:25:40It could be Jerry Springer the Opera because that was really,
0:25:40 > 0:25:42really lauded. That did really well, yeah.
0:25:42 > 0:25:46And... Whistle Down The Wind was a critically acclaimed,
0:25:47 > 0:25:50rather than Jersey Boys, which is very popular.
0:25:50 > 0:25:52I definitely think Matilda won it.
0:25:52 > 0:25:55Yeah. What about you? I'm just talking at you.
0:25:55 > 0:25:57What do you think, Thom?
0:25:57 > 0:25:58Honestly, I'm useless here.
0:25:58 > 0:26:01Matilda, yes, I think that definitely did. Yeah.
0:26:01 > 0:26:03As you say, Jerry Springer, when it came out,
0:26:03 > 0:26:05was very critically acclaimed. Yeah.
0:26:05 > 0:26:09Jersey Boys, although being popular, like you said, may not be so.
0:26:09 > 0:26:12Whereas Whistle Down The Wind is possibly more...
0:26:12 > 0:26:15All I can say is, I think it might be... I have to stop you, guys.
0:26:15 > 0:26:17And we need three answers, Thom.
0:26:17 > 0:26:19Matilda.
0:26:19 > 0:26:21Jerry Springer the Opera.
0:26:21 > 0:26:23And Whistle Down The Wind, please.
0:26:23 > 0:26:25Let's see what we can do here.
0:26:25 > 0:26:27You were up against it.
0:26:27 > 0:26:31You said Matilda to start us off.
0:26:31 > 0:26:33Has Matilda won an Olivier award?
0:26:39 > 0:26:41It has. Well done.
0:26:42 > 0:26:44My heart is pounding in my chest.
0:26:44 > 0:26:462012.
0:26:47 > 0:26:50You then both agreed that Jerry Springer the Opera was
0:26:50 > 0:26:54critically acclaimed, but did it win an Olivier award for
0:26:54 > 0:26:56Best New Musical?
0:26:56 > 0:26:58To keep us on track for ?1,800.
0:27:03 > 0:27:05Oh, yes.
0:27:06 > 0:27:08Oh, my God. Oh, my.
0:27:09 > 0:27:11It won in 2004.
0:27:12 > 0:27:17So, by luck, by knowledge, and by chance, we've got to this point.
0:27:20 > 0:27:22You were thinking Jersey Boys.
0:27:22 > 0:27:25And then you plumped for Whistle Down The Wind.
0:27:25 > 0:27:29If Whistle Down The Wind is correct, it's ?1,800. If it's wrong,
0:27:29 > 0:27:31I'm afraid you do leave with nothing, Thom.
0:27:31 > 0:27:32Best of luck on this one.
0:27:32 > 0:27:34Here we go.
0:27:35 > 0:27:39Has Whistle Down The Wind Won an Olivier award for Best New Musical?
0:27:39 > 0:27:40For ?1,800.
0:27:46 > 0:27:48Oh, no!
0:27:48 > 0:27:51It hasn't, Thom, I'm SO sorry. I'm so sorry. No, thank you so much.
0:27:51 > 0:27:53I'm so sorry, mate.
0:27:53 > 0:27:55The right answer was actually Jersey Boys.
0:27:55 > 0:27:57Oh, no, Thom!
0:27:57 > 0:28:012009, Jersey Boys won an Olivier award for Best New Musical.
0:28:01 > 0:28:04You were up against it, it wasn't your category,
0:28:04 > 0:28:05but you did play it so well.
0:28:05 > 0:28:07Let's give it up one more time for Thom!
0:28:11 > 0:28:12That is it for Debatable,
0:28:12 > 0:28:15there's just enough time for me to thank a fantastic panel.
0:28:15 > 0:28:18To Susan Calman, to Peter Jones, and Akala!
0:28:21 > 0:28:22I hope you've enjoyed watching.
0:28:22 > 0:28:25We will see you next time for more heated debates.
0:28:25 > 0:28:27For now, it's goodbye from me.
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0:28:56 > 0:28:58UNSTICK
0:28:58 > 0:28:59LAUGHTER
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