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0:00:06 > 0:00:08- The shows have started.

0:00:08 > 0:00:12- This show has been held in - Pontargothi for almost 100 years.

0:00:12 > 0:00:17- New legislation from the Welsh - Government has been introduced.

0:00:17 > 0:00:21- Will it sound the death knell - for some local shows?

0:00:30 > 0:00:35- Meinir is also at the show asking - how the new quarantine rules...

0:00:35 > 0:00:37- ..will affect small shows.

0:00:38 > 0:00:42- A century after the death of - Hedd Wyn, Daloni visits Yr Ysgwrn...

0:00:42 > 0:00:46- ..where agriculture - is alive in a museum.

0:00:47 > 0:00:51- First, I'm here to ask why people - still attend small shows.

0:00:59 > 0:01:04- This show started way back in 1898 - and it's still going strong today...

0:01:04 > 0:01:10- ..with high numbers of horses, - cattle and sheep for the visitors.

0:01:10 > 0:01:14- What is the value of a show - like this for farmers these days?

0:01:18 > 0:01:22- In terms of the business, - it's very important as an advert...

0:01:23 > 0:01:26- ..for selling stock - and the countryside.

0:01:26 > 0:01:30- It's a platform for youngsters to - compete in different competitions...

0:01:31 > 0:01:33- ..such as cooking and showing sheep.

0:01:33 > 0:01:35- That's very important.

0:01:35 > 0:01:38- We meet local characters...

0:01:39 > 0:01:41- ..and yeah, meeting people.

0:01:41 > 0:01:44- This is the foundation - of the industry.

0:01:44 > 0:01:46- Youngsters are showing their stock.

0:01:47 > 0:01:50- Without shows like this, - there's no starting point.

0:01:59 > 0:02:05- Dairy farmer Iwan Morgan, Nantybwla, - has competed here for years.

0:02:06 > 0:02:09- Last year you were a winner - at the Royal Welsh.

0:02:10 > 0:02:13- How is that different - to competing here?

0:02:13 > 0:02:15- Preparation is the same, - hard work...

0:02:16 > 0:02:20- ..you need the best standard - wherever you're competing.

0:02:20 > 0:02:24- Do you see youngsters - with the enthusiasm to compete?

0:02:24 > 0:02:27- I see more and more.

0:02:28 > 0:02:30- It's hard work - but it's a lot of fun.

0:02:30 > 0:02:33- They enjoy being part of a society.

0:02:33 > 0:02:37- They enjoy meeting up - and getting to know each other.

0:02:38 > 0:02:40- You're very close to Carmarthen.

0:02:40 > 0:02:45- Does the way you compete - include people from the town?

0:02:45 > 0:02:50- I think it's important that you - take time to talk to people.

0:02:50 > 0:02:54- It's important that we make - a good impression on the public.

0:02:55 > 0:02:57- We want people to buy our produce.

0:02:58 > 0:03:01- It's important to take our produce - to the people.

0:03:06 > 0:03:08- Catrin Reed's a part-time farmer.

0:03:09 > 0:03:13- What's the attraction - of the shows for her?

0:03:13 > 0:03:16- We've attended shows - for many years.

0:03:16 > 0:03:21- At the small shows, we build up - experience and confidence...

0:03:21 > 0:03:23- ..to compete in the larger shows.

0:03:23 > 0:03:28- If we don't support these shows, - the community misses out.

0:03:28 > 0:03:31- We're trying our best - to support these shows...

0:03:31 > 0:03:34- ..throughout the year.

0:03:34 > 0:03:38- If something prevented a show - like this happening...

0:03:38 > 0:03:40- ..you'd be quite sad about it.

0:03:41 > 0:03:46- It would be a loss. We're also here - to try and sell our stock.

0:03:46 > 0:03:50- I had a foal. Hopefully, - someone saw the foal today.

0:03:50 > 0:03:54- At the end of the year, - they might want to buy it.

0:03:54 > 0:03:57- It's a way to sell too, - in addition to a fun day out.

0:04:00 > 0:04:06- Chairperson Meinir Davies - is coordinating the day's events.

0:04:06 > 0:04:10- Who are the people in attendance - and where do they come from?

0:04:10 > 0:04:15- It's a mixture from near and far, - from all backgrounds.

0:04:15 > 0:04:19- People who live in towns - want something different.

0:04:19 > 0:04:22- They go to work day to day.

0:04:22 > 0:04:27- For people in rural Wales, this is - our chance to show what we can do.

0:04:28 > 0:04:33- What are farmers telling you - about the value of them?

0:04:33 > 0:04:36- Has that changed over the years?

0:04:36 > 0:04:40- Originally, it was an opportunity - to socialise...

0:04:40 > 0:04:45- ..but it's more important now - as a showing event...

0:04:45 > 0:04:49- ..especially with the pressure to - compete with Brexit on the horizon.

0:04:50 > 0:04:52- It changes all the time.

0:04:53 > 0:04:58- How does the future look for you? - You sound confident.

0:04:58 > 0:05:01- Yes, we have a strong committee.

0:05:01 > 0:05:05- It helps that we own the land - and we can do as we wish.

0:05:06 > 0:05:09- That gives us some certainty - for the future.

0:05:13 > 0:05:17- Today in the show, - there's a feast of competition.

0:05:18 > 0:05:22- As a result of new legislation, - there are concerns...

0:05:22 > 0:05:26- ..that this sight could disappear.

0:05:28 > 0:05:31- They want to close down small shows. - It's diabolical.

0:05:32 > 0:05:33- They also want the money.

0:05:34 > 0:05:38- I completely oppose the idea. - It doesn't make any sense.

0:05:38 > 0:05:41- It's another way to get money - from farmers.

0:05:43 > 0:05:48- Cabinet Secretary for the - Environment and Rural Affairs...

0:05:48 > 0:05:52- ..Lesley Griffiths, - announced that quarantine units...

0:05:52 > 0:05:55- ..will come into force in Wales - on June 12.

0:05:56 > 0:06:01- Quarantine units will ensure that - cattle, sheep and goat farmers...

0:06:01 > 0:06:05- ..can decide between - approved quarantine units...

0:06:06 > 0:06:08- ..to control livestock movement...

0:06:09 > 0:06:13- ..or continue to use the six-day - movement restriction on their herd.

0:06:14 > 0:06:18- Right now, if you want to attend - more than one show in a week...

0:06:18 > 0:06:21- ..you can have a separate field - or shed.

0:06:21 > 0:06:26- Under the new system, farmers must - register for a quarantine unit...

0:06:26 > 0:06:28- ..and pay almost 173.

0:06:28 > 0:06:31- On the eve of the show season...

0:06:31 > 0:06:35- ..is now the correct time - to introduce new legislation?

0:06:36 > 0:06:39- As one of the officials, - how will the quarantine units...

0:06:39 > 0:06:41- ..affect small shows?

0:06:41 > 0:06:44- It is rather concerning - for small shows.

0:06:44 > 0:06:49- We've had a lot of exhibitors - telling us today on their way in...

0:06:49 > 0:06:52- ..that they're really worried - about it.

0:06:52 > 0:06:54- There are related costs - and new regulations.

0:06:55 > 0:06:58- Some believe the regulations - we already have are sufficient.

0:06:58 > 0:07:02- It gives farmers - another layer of regulations.

0:07:02 > 0:07:06- If farmers are concerned - about attending shows...

0:07:06 > 0:07:09- ..we'll worry about our exhibitors.

0:07:11 > 0:07:17- Gwynne Davies from Tregaron - is unhappy with the new regulations.

0:07:17 > 0:07:19- To show his dissatisfaction...

0:07:20 > 0:07:23- ..he's presented a petition - to the Welsh Government.

0:07:24 > 0:07:30- The industry has called - for an end to the six-day rule.

0:07:30 > 0:07:35- It's ended on the main holding - but you now need a quarantine unit.

0:07:35 > 0:07:41- I don't think anyone realises - the problems that will arise.

0:07:41 > 0:07:45- If you want a quarantine unit, - it'll be a major headache.

0:07:45 > 0:07:48- You have to wear - different clothes inside it.

0:07:48 > 0:07:50- You can't use the same food.

0:07:51 > 0:07:56- If you're driving a tractor, it has - to be washed when it comes out.

0:07:56 > 0:07:58- The problem - we have in small shows...

0:07:59 > 0:08:01- ..the isolation units we had worked.

0:08:01 > 0:08:04- They're adding - the quarantine unit...

0:08:04 > 0:08:06- ..to the small shows.

0:08:06 > 0:08:10- The system we had, - the isolation unit, worked.

0:08:10 > 0:08:14- Everyone knew how it worked - and I wish someone would ask...

0:08:14 > 0:08:18- .."Has there been a problem - with isolation units?"

0:08:20 > 0:08:24- Geraint Jones, Brynyrwyn, - Ystrad Meurig...

0:08:24 > 0:08:28- ..has already registered - for a quarantine unit.

0:08:28 > 0:08:30- I was one of the first to register.

0:08:30 > 0:08:33- I did it before receiving - the letter.

0:08:33 > 0:08:36- Everything was due to change - on the 10th...

0:08:36 > 0:08:40- ..and I'd paid entry fees - to Malvern four days later.

0:08:40 > 0:08:43- We also had a show - the following week.

0:08:43 > 0:08:46- I had to do it - otherwise I'd lose a lot of money.

0:08:47 > 0:08:49- I wanted to attend the shows - and sell.

0:08:49 > 0:08:54- What surprised me, - when the official came out...

0:08:54 > 0:08:57- ..this was one of his first farms.

0:08:57 > 0:08:59- He didn't know the rules properly.

0:09:00 > 0:09:03- He asked me for the CPH number - of the quarantine unit.

0:09:03 > 0:09:07- I'd ask them for an inspection - so that I could have one.

0:09:07 > 0:09:10- They started off on the wrong foot.

0:09:10 > 0:09:12- For farmers who don't exhibit...

0:09:13 > 0:09:17- ..they need quarantine units - to move animals from day to day.

0:09:17 > 0:09:22- It could be beneficial but it's one - more thing to catch a farmer out.

0:09:22 > 0:09:25- You move them in, move them out.

0:09:25 > 0:09:29- If you don't do it correctly, - there goes your Single Farm Payment.

0:09:30 > 0:09:32- All they want to do is finish it.

0:09:32 > 0:09:37- They should be speaking to people - at the shows...

0:09:37 > 0:09:40- ..to see what works best.

0:09:40 > 0:09:44- I don't mind there being regulations - but it must work for everyone.

0:09:47 > 0:09:53- Christianne Glossop is responsible - for drawing up the new legislation.

0:09:54 > 0:09:59- This is the alternative - to the six-day standstill.

0:09:59 > 0:10:02- I've talked to a lot of farmers - about this.

0:10:02 > 0:10:07- They are saying they're content - to stay with the six-day standstill.

0:10:07 > 0:10:12- They can plan their movements - to hold the farm in lockdown...

0:10:12 > 0:10:15- ..for six days - before they move animals off.

0:10:16 > 0:10:20- Farmers are saying that's possible - for most of the year...

0:10:20 > 0:10:25- ..but as they come to the autumn and - there's movement of ewes and rams...

0:10:25 > 0:10:29- ..that's when the six-day standstill - becomes difficult.

0:10:30 > 0:10:34- For them, the option of a - quarantine unit comes into its own.

0:10:34 > 0:10:36- The majority of people I spoke to...

0:10:37 > 0:10:39- ..are worried about the future - of local shows.

0:10:40 > 0:10:42- ..and the youngsters - who attend these shows.

0:10:43 > 0:10:45- What's your response to this?

0:10:45 > 0:10:49- The way people taking animals - to shows have managed up to now...

0:10:50 > 0:10:52- ..is they've had a show isolation.

0:10:52 > 0:10:56- The industry asked us if we - would agree to a show isolation...

0:10:57 > 0:11:00- ..and a quarantine unit - and a six-day standstill...

0:11:00 > 0:11:03- ..and it was becoming complicated.

0:11:03 > 0:11:08- This has given us an opportunity - to wipe the slate clean...

0:11:08 > 0:11:12- ..start with a blank sheet - and say you can work...

0:11:12 > 0:11:17- ..with a six-day standstill or the - quarantine unit or a combination.

0:11:18 > 0:11:22- If they're not able to go - to the expense and effort...

0:11:22 > 0:11:26- ..of introducing - a quarantine unit...

0:11:26 > 0:11:31- ..it won't stop them visiting shows - but it will reduce the number.

0:11:31 > 0:11:34- What was complicated - about the show isolation unit?

0:11:34 > 0:11:38- It allowed the freedom - to go to any shows you wanted...

0:11:38 > 0:11:40- ..any day of the week.

0:11:40 > 0:11:45- Those arrangements were in place - before the Working Smarter review.

0:11:45 > 0:11:49- The industry asked us - to change the arrangements.

0:11:49 > 0:11:52- I'm really disappointed...

0:11:52 > 0:11:55- ..that we now seem - to be having a reaction...

0:11:56 > 0:11:58- ..to something that took five years.

0:11:58 > 0:12:04- Over the past five years, we've been - criticised for dragging our heels.

0:12:04 > 0:12:09- Now we're being asked to delay this - until the end of the show season...

0:12:09 > 0:12:12- ..or to change the arrangements...

0:12:12 > 0:12:16- ..when we've worked with - the industry as much as possible.

0:12:19 > 0:12:23- According to what the chief - veterinary officer has said...

0:12:23 > 0:12:28- ..has the industry misinterpreted - the needs of cattle owners?

0:12:29 > 0:12:31- In a statement, NFU Cymru said...

0:12:31 > 0:12:35- "Given the short time scale - and lack of detailed information...

0:12:35 > 0:12:39- "..on the requirements of quarantine - units in the public domain...

0:12:39 > 0:12:43- "..NFU Cymru requested a transition - period for quarantine units...

0:12:43 > 0:12:47- "..and approved isolation facilities - allowing both to run in parallel.

0:12:48 > 0:12:51- "We are yet to be convinced - that the current rules...

0:12:51 > 0:12:54- "..fit our core principles - and as such we are committed...

0:12:54 > 0:12:58- "..to feeding back the concerns - of our members over issues...

0:12:58 > 0:13:01- "..with the implementation - of quarantine units."

0:13:01 > 0:13:04- According to a spokesperson - from the FUW...

0:13:04 > 0:13:09- "The existence of the quarantine - units isn't the problem...

0:13:09 > 0:13:11- "..but the nature - of the regulations...

0:13:12 > 0:13:14- "..and the timing - of their introduction is.

0:13:14 > 0:13:18- "In the absence of changes to - the six-day movement restriction...

0:13:19 > 0:13:23- "..the FUW has argued for the - introduction of quarantine units...

0:13:24 > 0:13:29- "..with fair regulations which - allow trade during busy times...

0:13:29 > 0:13:33- "..and for this to be done - within a fair timeframe."

0:13:33 > 0:13:37- "We have also argued in favour - of the isolation units...

0:13:38 > 0:13:40- "..which already exist for shows."

0:13:46 > 0:13:49- How do people feel - back in Pontargothi?

0:13:51 > 0:13:54- The Government - wants to end small shows.

0:13:54 > 0:13:58- I'll give you an example - with the Royal Welsh Show.

0:13:58 > 0:14:02- We're showing at the Cardigan Show - the following Wednesday.

0:14:02 > 0:14:07- If you don't have quarantine, - you can't attend the show.

0:14:07 > 0:14:09- We're not going to do it.

0:14:09 > 0:14:13- I've spoken to a lot of people, - they're not going to do it.

0:14:14 > 0:14:17- We already have regulations - in place.

0:14:17 > 0:14:21- It's worked since the outbreak - of Foot and Mouth.

0:14:21 > 0:14:27- The vet has passed our quarantine - unit, it's called a show unit now.

0:14:27 > 0:14:31- They can just change the wording - and call it a quarantine unit.

0:14:31 > 0:14:35- We have to pay for the pleasure - to keep the countryside alive now.

0:14:36 > 0:14:39- Farmers attending shows - want to exhibit their sheep.

0:14:40 > 0:14:45- They don't want barriers. They just - want something to make life easier.

0:14:47 > 0:14:52- This standstill needs to be stopped, - don't make things more complicated.

0:14:52 > 0:14:56- As it is now, - it's not helping us at all.

0:15:09 > 0:15:11- That's it for Part 1.

0:15:11 > 0:15:15- After the break, we visit Hedd Wyn's - former home after its renovation.

0:15:15 > 0:15:17- See you in two minutes.

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0:15:29 > 0:15:34- Let's be honest. As farmers, - we face an uncertain future.

0:15:34 > 0:15:38- Who knows what will happen - after Brexit.

0:15:38 > 0:15:43- We face losing a market, losing - subsidies and total uncertainty.

0:15:43 > 0:15:47- Is there another way - to make money from farming...

0:15:47 > 0:15:49- ..mankind's oldest skill?

0:15:49 > 0:15:54- Is it possible to turn agriculture - into a museum?

0:15:54 > 0:15:58- What they have at Yr Ysgwrn - in Trawsfynydd is unique.

0:15:59 > 0:16:03- The land that surrounds me - is steeped in history...

0:16:03 > 0:16:06- ..but it is also a working farm.

0:16:12 > 0:16:15- Yr Ysgwrn was home - to Ellis Humphrey Evans.

0:16:15 > 0:16:17- His bardic name was Hedd Wyn.

0:16:17 > 0:16:19- As a young 30-year-old farmer...

0:16:20 > 0:16:26- ..he won the Black Chair at the - 1917 Birkenhead National Eisteddfod.

0:16:27 > 0:16:29- He never had the chance - to sit in it.

0:16:30 > 0:16:33- He died on the battlefield - during the First World War...

0:16:33 > 0:16:35- ..almost a century ago.

0:16:38 > 0:16:43- Ellis Humphrey Evans - was the eldest of 11 children.

0:16:43 > 0:16:47- He moved here, to Yr Ysgwrn, - when he was a few weeks old.

0:16:47 > 0:16:51- His parents managed - to make a living from farming.

0:16:52 > 0:16:54- Gerald Williams, - Hedd Wyn's nephew...

0:16:55 > 0:16:57- ..has farmed Yr Ysgwrn - for many years...

0:16:58 > 0:17:02- ..as well as welcoming thousands - of visitors to the family home.

0:17:02 > 0:17:07- I had to live on the farm, - but I was spending more time...

0:17:07 > 0:17:10- ..talking to the visitors.

0:17:10 > 0:17:16- I'd done it all my life, - it was nothing new for me.

0:17:16 > 0:17:19- Has farming changed - for better or for worse?

0:17:19 > 0:17:22- That's a good question.

0:17:26 > 0:17:30- Around here, you didn't farm - to produce your own food.

0:17:31 > 0:17:33- You farmed to make a living.

0:17:33 > 0:17:36- The house, and 170 acres of land...

0:17:37 > 0:17:41- ..were bought - by the Snowdonia National Park.

0:17:41 > 0:17:46- The venture was funded by the - National Heritage Memorial Fund...

0:17:46 > 0:17:48- ..and the Welsh Government.

0:17:48 > 0:17:53- By now, 3.4m has been spent here...

0:17:54 > 0:17:57- ..to develop a museum - and educational facilities...

0:17:57 > 0:17:58- ..as well as the farm.

0:17:59 > 0:18:03- It would have been nice - seeing it spent on agriculture...

0:18:03 > 0:18:08- ..but only a small proportion - was spent on the farming side.

0:18:08 > 0:18:12- We invested just under 400,000...

0:18:12 > 0:18:16- ..on the agricultural - and rural management.

0:18:17 > 0:18:19- ..over the past few years.

0:18:20 > 0:18:23- Again, they say we didn't - get much for our money...

0:18:23 > 0:18:27- ..but we have to remember - the heritage of the farm...

0:18:27 > 0:18:29- ..and the historic implications.

0:18:29 > 0:18:33- There's landscaping work - and cladding the buildings...

0:18:33 > 0:18:36- ..to bring them up to standard.

0:18:36 > 0:18:41- At the end of the day, - the museum status comes first...

0:18:41 > 0:18:45- ..and the heritage and culture - associated with Yr Ysgwrn.

0:18:45 > 0:18:50- In those terms, the agricultural - side has to take a step back.

0:18:50 > 0:18:54- Where has the 400,000 been spent?

0:18:54 > 0:18:58- New equipment, a new shed...

0:18:58 > 0:19:01- ..and a new compound.

0:19:01 > 0:19:07- Work in the woodlands and a lot - of work on the natural landscape.

0:19:07 > 0:19:12- We're in a position - to better control the holding now.

0:19:19 > 0:19:23- Meilir and Catrin Jarrett - are the farm's tenants.

0:19:23 > 0:19:28- They live in Trawsfynydd and have - farmed here for almost five years.

0:19:28 > 0:19:33- Both work full-time. Meilir is - a farm-hand and Catrin is a teacher.

0:19:33 > 0:19:37- How did you become tenants - of Yr Ysgwrn?

0:19:38 > 0:19:41- We saw an advert - in the local paper.

0:19:41 > 0:19:46- The National Park was looking - for a tenant for a 10-year period.

0:19:46 > 0:19:51- It was a great opportunity - to get into the agricultural world.

0:19:51 > 0:19:55- Opportunities like this - don't arise often.

0:19:55 > 0:19:59- No. If you're a young couple, - you go for it.

0:19:59 > 0:20:02- What kind of farming do you do here?

0:20:02 > 0:20:06- Traditional farming, - much like the work done by Gerald.

0:20:06 > 0:20:08- It's a hill farm.

0:20:09 > 0:20:12- There have been changes recently. - Have they been for the better?

0:20:13 > 0:20:15- For better and worse.

0:20:15 > 0:20:17- A lot of money has been invested.

0:20:17 > 0:20:20- It's interesting to see - how it's changed here.

0:20:20 > 0:20:23- What are the major changes?

0:20:23 > 0:20:27- This compound is new. That's - the greatest change on the farm.

0:20:27 > 0:20:29- We work full time.

0:20:30 > 0:20:34- We need a shed that simple's and - requires the least amount of labour.

0:20:34 > 0:20:36- What's special about it?

0:20:37 > 0:20:40- Some parts of the floor - have made life easier.

0:20:40 > 0:20:44- There's no need to scrape - under the cattle during the winter.

0:20:44 > 0:20:48- It saves us - having to pay for hay.

0:20:49 > 0:20:51- In terms of the payments - you receive...

0:20:52 > 0:20:56- ..does the Single Farm payment - come to you or the National Park?

0:20:56 > 0:20:59- The subsidies come to us.

0:20:59 > 0:21:01- That's well worth having.

0:21:02 > 0:21:04- It's crucial for a farm like this.

0:21:04 > 0:21:07- What are your aims during this time?

0:21:08 > 0:21:13- We'd like to extend the tenancy, - if that's possible...

0:21:13 > 0:21:15- ..and make as much money as we can.

0:21:16 > 0:21:18- Without it, life would be difficult.

0:21:18 > 0:21:23- That's the aim of every farmer, - to make a living.

0:21:27 > 0:21:30- Farming is difficult enough - as it is.

0:21:31 > 0:21:35- Does the fact that more visitors - will flock to Yr Ysgwrn...

0:21:35 > 0:21:38- ..make it more difficult - to farm here?

0:21:38 > 0:21:42- It's been a learning process - for all of us, Meilir and ourselves.

0:21:43 > 0:21:47- The holding has changed a lot - since we took it over from Gerald.

0:21:47 > 0:21:50- Stock patterns have changed - quite considerably.

0:21:51 > 0:21:56- That affected our expectations - as an authority...

0:21:57 > 0:21:59- ..and our hopes for the holding.

0:21:59 > 0:22:03- What is Yr Ysgwrn now? - A museum or a farm?

0:22:03 > 0:22:05- It's a lot of things.

0:22:05 > 0:22:10- That's what makes it interesting - and a challenge.

0:22:10 > 0:22:16- It's a museum for some, it's - a tourist attraction for others.

0:22:17 > 0:22:19- It's a very special place...

0:22:20 > 0:22:23- ..in terms of its - cultural history and heritage.

0:22:24 > 0:22:28- For Meilir and myself, - it's a working farm.

0:22:28 > 0:22:31- It's difficult to put it - into one box.

0:22:31 > 0:22:36- It was the authority's decision to - make it a destination for tourists.

0:22:36 > 0:22:42- At the end of the day, - it must be self-sufficient.

0:22:42 > 0:22:46- It also wanted it - to be a working farm.

0:22:46 > 0:22:52- We hope that modern techniques and - traditional patterns can continue.

0:22:56 > 0:23:00- On the one hand, the history - of Yr Ysgwrn must be preserved.

0:23:00 > 0:23:04- On the other hand, Catrin and Meilir - need to make a living.

0:23:04 > 0:23:09- It's time to find a resolution - which satisfies both sides.

0:23:10 > 0:23:13- That might be the story - for farms across Wales.

0:23:14 > 0:23:19- Farmers will have to consider - what works and what doesn't work...

0:23:19 > 0:23:22- ..to ensure a stronger future.

0:23:22 > 0:23:28- That's all for this week. - We're back the same time next week.

0:23:28 > 0:23:29- Goodbye.

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