Tue, 11 Oct 2016

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0:00:17 > 0:00:20- Hello and welcome - to Tuesday night's Heno.

0:00:21 > 0:00:23- It's great to have your company.

0:00:24 > 0:00:26- It's an important night in Lampeter.

0:00:26 > 0:00:34- Some colourful characters are in the - pages of a new book about tramps.

0:00:34 > 0:00:38- Heledd is on the coast in Aberaeron.

0:00:38 > 0:00:41- What do you think is made from?

0:00:41 > 0:00:44- Is it made from a tree - grown especially for the job?

0:00:44 > 0:00:46- No, it's driftwood - or at least it was driftwood.

0:00:47 > 0:00:49- It's now a beautiful decoration.

0:00:49 > 0:00:53- Later, we'll meet Gwawr who is - responsible for the transformation.

0:00:54 > 0:01:00- We step back in time with Daf Wyn - and the workers of the Cardi Bach.

0:01:00 > 0:01:06- Tonight, we meet the second finalist - for the Bryn Terfel Scholarship.

0:01:06 > 0:01:10- It's Lleucu Parri from Cardiff.

0:01:10 > 0:01:14- My guest is an old hand at competing - in the Eisteddfod...

0:01:14 > 0:01:17- ..but has turned her hand - to journalism and reporting.

0:01:17 > 0:01:20- Glesni Euros is the latest reporter - to join S4C's Hacio.

0:01:20 > 0:01:22- Welcome to the programme.

0:01:22 > 0:01:24- Thank you.

0:01:25 > 0:01:26- It's lovely to be here.

0:01:27 > 0:01:30- We'll hear all about - your new role later.

0:01:30 > 0:01:31- Welcome to Heno.

0:01:36 > 0:01:40- We start the programme by tracing - the history of the tramp.

0:01:41 > 0:01:45- At one time, they were - a common sight in rural Wales.

0:01:45 > 0:01:51- Reverend Goronwy Evans from Lampeter - has published the book, Ar Grwydir.

0:01:51 > 0:01:54- It tells the story - of many Welsh tramps.

0:01:54 > 0:01:58- Rhodri met him at Brondeifi Chapel - to hear all about it.

0:02:03 > 0:02:09- The background of the book - stems back to my childhood.

0:02:09 > 0:02:16- Tramps often visited - and Mam would feed them.

0:02:16 > 0:02:22- I spent 50 years as a minister - in Brondeifi before I retired.

0:02:22 > 0:02:25- There was a tramp in the town - called George Gibbs.

0:02:26 > 0:02:31- I thought the world of George - who was from Scotstoun in Glasgow.

0:02:31 > 0:02:36- He fought in the war - and was torpedoed three times.

0:02:36 > 0:02:42- He came home to Scotland and - his street had been demolished...

0:02:42 > 0:02:46- ..and his wife was under the rubble.

0:02:46 > 0:02:51- This is why he took to the road - and he told me this story.

0:02:51 > 0:02:55- This was the reason for me - writing the book.

0:02:55 > 0:03:00- You could say that - there is a Welsh tradition...

0:03:00 > 0:03:07- ..with the super-tramp, W H Davies.

0:03:07 > 0:03:12- "What is this life if, full of care, - We have no time to stand and stare."

0:03:12 > 0:03:16- He has an interesting story and - was raised by his grandparents...

0:03:17 > 0:03:20- ..and spent time - in the United States.

0:03:21 > 0:03:27- I read that book before writing this - but we have our super-tramps too.

0:03:27 > 0:03:31- Many came to the rural towns...

0:03:31 > 0:03:35- ..in Ceredigion, Carmarthenshire - and Pembrokeshire.

0:03:36 > 0:03:44- They were given shelter, - a place to sleep, food and work.

0:03:44 > 0:03:49- I remember Dafydd Jones Gwallt Hir - when I was a child.

0:03:49 > 0:03:54- He was born in Bwlchllan - near Lampeter and had a large cart.

0:03:54 > 0:03:59- I was one of three lads who helped - him up the hill in Cwmsychbant.

0:04:00 > 0:04:05- Curiosity killed the cat and I tried - to see in the cart but got caught.

0:04:05 > 0:04:15- Dafydd said, "Should I come into - your home and open the cupboards?"

0:04:16 > 0:04:25- I realized that the cart was his - home, kitchen and everything he had.

0:04:25 > 0:04:30- The cross-section of characters - and geography is very interesting.

0:04:30 > 0:04:36- The book covers - as far afield as Australia.

0:04:37 > 0:04:45- Joseph Jenkins was a swagman - and carried everything on his back.

0:04:46 > 0:04:53- This gentleman farmer became a - gentleman walker in Australia...

0:04:53 > 0:04:58- ..but he came home - and is buried at Capel y Groes.

0:04:59 > 0:05:02- Is this tradition continuing?

0:05:03 > 0:05:10- I thought that with George Gibbs, - I'd buried the last of the tramps.

0:05:10 > 0:05:16- A few days ago, I got a call from - a local farmer called Dafydd Jones.

0:05:16 > 0:05:21- He wanted to introduce me to someone - from the Czech Republic...

0:05:21 > 0:05:27- ..who had toured Europe - and hadn't been home since 2009.

0:05:28 > 0:05:34- I went to meet him and was - faced with the modern-day wanderer.

0:05:34 > 0:05:42- He had a large scooter - that was covered with bags.

0:05:43 > 0:05:48- He used his foot - to push the scooter.

0:05:48 > 0:05:54- What do you hope to have achieved - from writing this book?

0:05:54 > 0:06:01- is in print for all to see.

0:06:01 > 0:06:06- I felt that we were losing - this tradition from our lives...

0:06:06 > 0:06:12- ..so it was important record the - story of these very special people.

0:06:20 > 0:06:22- Those were some interesting stories.

0:06:22 > 0:06:26- Good luck to Goronwy with the - book launch in Lampeter tonight.

0:06:26 > 0:06:29- My guest is the latest reporter - to join the team of S4C's Hacio.

0:06:29 > 0:06:32- Glesni Euros, - welcome to the programme.

0:06:32 > 0:06:34- Thank you.

0:06:34 > 0:06:38- Congratulations on your new role.

0:06:38 > 0:06:42- You've become the latest - reporter to join S4C's Hacio.

0:06:53 > 0:07:00- I feel as if I'm in the job that - I was meant to have.

0:07:00 > 0:07:05- Tell us a bit about yourself.

0:07:05 > 0:07:09- I still work with the Eisteddfod.

0:07:09 > 0:07:15- I've followed a path to try - and find myself.

0:07:15 > 0:07:24- I studied German in Oxford...

0:07:25 > 0:07:33- ..before going to study History - in London.

0:07:33 > 0:07:43- I'd always wanted to be - a journalist...

0:07:47 > 0:07:57- ..so went to study for a diploma - in Cardiff.

0:07:57 > 0:08:03- How did you get the presenting job - on Hacio?

0:08:03 > 0:08:11- I worked with the BBC after college.

0:08:11 > 0:08:16- The opportunity arose to work with - Hacio...

0:08:16 > 0:08:21- ..and I jumped at the chance.

0:08:21 > 0:08:26- You can watch Hacio on S4C - from next month.

0:08:26 > 0:08:30- It starts on 24 November.

0:08:30 > 0:08:35- There's four programmes - in this series.

0:08:35 > 0:08:38- The first programme - is an hour-long programme.

0:08:38 > 0:08:42- Let's see a clip that you made - that discusses mental health.

0:08:42 > 0:08:44- You're a campaigner - for mental health.

0:08:44 > 0:08:48- the meaning of mental health.

0:08:48 > 0:08:51- Can you describe your experience - to us?

0:08:51 > 0:08:53- I live with anxiety...

0:08:53 > 0:08:58- ..and have panic attacks where - other people wouldn't feel anxious.

0:08:59 > 0:09:03- When I started, I wouldn't speak to - anyone and didn't know what it was.

0:09:03 > 0:09:08- I had panic attacks in classes, - couldn't answer questions or talk.

0:09:08 > 0:09:13- It was very difficult for me.

0:09:13 > 0:09:23- You can see that clip online.

0:09:26 > 0:09:30- You deal with some sensitive issues.

0:09:30 > 0:09:34- Yes, that's right.

0:09:34 > 0:09:37- It's important to remember - that young people...

0:09:37 > 0:09:41- ..are important.

0:09:41 > 0:09:46- They are the future.

0:09:46 > 0:09:49- The people who feature - in our videos...

0:09:49 > 0:09:55- ..are happy to speak to us.

0:09:55 > 0:10:01- You also raise money.

0:10:01 > 0:10:06- Yes, it's the RNIB.

0:10:06 > 0:10:12- I chose to run the Cardiff Half - Marathon.

0:10:12 > 0:10:21- I did it in just over two hours.

0:10:21 > 0:10:25- I'm not an athletic person.

0:10:26 > 0:10:30- I'm glad to have done it.

0:10:31 > 0:10:36- Thanks to everyone who sponsored me.

0:10:36 > 0:10:39- I've raised over 800.

0:10:39 > 0:10:45- People can still donate on my Just - Giving page!

0:10:45 > 0:10:47- Thank you, Glesni.

0:10:47 > 0:10:51- Next, we hear of a woman who makes - a living from visiting the beach...

0:10:51 > 0:10:54- ..and collects driftwood - in all weathers.

0:10:54 > 0:10:58- Heledd Gwyndaf heard about - the inspiration behind Brocera.

0:10:58 > 0:11:02- Ireland and the western weather.

0:11:02 > 0:11:07- The harbour is sheltered but the sea - has thrown up some driftwood.

0:11:08 > 0:11:11- You might think - that it looks messy...

0:11:11 > 0:11:15- ..but Gwawr views it - as an opportunity.

0:11:18 > 0:11:24- Under the brand of Brocera, Gwawr - collects and transforms driftwood.

0:11:25 > 0:11:28- How did you start - collecting driftwood?

0:11:29 > 0:11:33- I've been in Aberaeron for three - years and love coming to the beach.

0:11:33 > 0:11:38- I can't walk passed a piece of - driftwood as I'm obsessed with it!

0:11:38 > 0:11:43- I started messing around - and made a few things for my home...

0:11:43 > 0:11:49- ..before making gifts - for birthdays and weddings.

0:11:49 > 0:11:54- People liked what I'd made and asked - me for items and it grew from there.

0:11:55 > 0:12:05- I love recycling and it's important - to find a new purpose to an item.

0:12:06 > 0:12:09- What makes - a good piece of driftwood?

0:12:10 > 0:12:14- It all depends on what I'm making.

0:12:14 > 0:12:21- If the piece is straight, it could - be good for a Christmas tree.

0:12:21 > 0:12:26- Another piece - could resemble a fish tail.

0:12:26 > 0:12:31- Other items could suit the top - of a tree or be a candle holder.

0:12:31 > 0:12:35- When is the best time - to collect driftwood?

0:12:35 > 0:12:40- There are times when I come - to the beach and there's nothing.

0:12:40 > 0:12:46- If there's a high tide, as we've got - today, you're likely to find some.

0:12:46 > 0:12:50- The aftermath of a storm is also - a good time to find driftwood.

0:12:51 > 0:12:56- Gwawr treats the wood in a workshop - near the beach in her garden.

0:12:57 > 0:13:01- After collecting the driftwood, - I bring it home.

0:13:01 > 0:13:05- There's a bucket by my shed...

0:13:05 > 0:13:09- ..where I leave the driftwood - to soak in bleach and water.

0:13:10 > 0:13:17- This helps to clear it - of any insects hiding in the wood.

0:13:17 > 0:13:24- After a week in the water, it dries, - looks cleaner and paler too.

0:13:24 > 0:13:29- Last Christmas, - I sold a few Christmas trees.

0:13:29 > 0:13:35- People saw them in other homes - and asked me to make one...

0:13:35 > 0:13:38- ..so I've got enough stock - for this year.

0:13:39 > 0:13:42- Why do you do this?

0:13:42 > 0:13:47- I love messing around - with driftwood.

0:13:47 > 0:13:51- It gives me time to think and - sort out any problems in my mind.

0:14:01 > 0:14:03- The items were wonderful.

0:14:04 > 0:14:07- After the break, - we meet Lleucu Parri...

0:14:07 > 0:14:12- ..one of the finalists in - this year's Bryn Terfel Scholarship.

0:14:12 > 0:14:16- How many of you in West Wales - remember the Cardi Bach train?

0:14:16 > 0:14:22- We reminisce with the people - who worked on the rails.

0:14:22 > 0:14:29- It was more enjoyable with some - drivers than it was with others.

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0:14:42 > 0:14:44- Welcome back.

0:14:44 > 0:14:47- On Sunday, at the Stiwt Theatre - in Rhosllanerchrugog...

0:14:48 > 0:14:52- ..winners from the Urdd will compete - for the Bryn Terfel Scholarship.

0:14:52 > 0:14:57- Last night, we met one competitor, - namely Meilir Jones from Llangefni.

0:14:57 > 0:15:01- The second competitor - is from the Welsh capital.

0:15:14 > 0:15:19- My name is Lleucu Parri, - I'm 17 and from Cardiff.

0:15:19 > 0:15:23- I won the solo folk dance for girls - under 25.

0:15:35 > 0:15:40- I started dancing - when I was about seven years old.

0:15:40 > 0:15:45- Mam and my aunt enjoyed clog dancing - when they were young...

0:15:49 > 0:15:56- I really enjoy it and dance - with friends and the Bro Taf group.

0:15:56 > 0:16:01- Dancing gives me - a lot of opportunities too.

0:16:01 > 0:16:07- The Eisteddfod is a massive part - of my life and I compete every year.

0:16:07 > 0:16:12- I compete in the dancing - because it's something I enjoy.

0:16:12 > 0:16:16- The Eisteddfod - is great for building confidence.

0:16:16 > 0:16:23- I hope to study the flute so this - has helped me with my future.

0:16:32 > 0:16:40- Hearing that I'd been chosen for - the scholarship was a huge shock.

0:16:40 > 0:16:45- I was at the bar in the Urdd - Eisteddfod and waiting for the gig.

0:16:45 > 0:16:50- Mam phoned and I was so shocked - as it was totally unexpected...

0:16:50 > 0:16:54- ..but it's a fantastic opportunity.

0:16:54 > 0:17:00- On the night, I hope my enjoyment - on stage is felt by the audience...

0:17:00 > 0:17:05- ..and they enjoy my performance.

0:17:09 > 0:17:12- Glesni Euros is my studio guest - this evening.

0:17:12 > 0:17:16- You competed - in the Bryn Terfel Scholarship.

0:17:16 > 0:17:21- Yes, I was in the competition - in 2013.

0:17:21 > 0:17:26- Yes, I was in the competition - in 2012.

0:17:27 > 0:17:30- I enjoyed every second of it.

0:17:30 > 0:17:39- It was brilliant.

0:17:39 > 0:17:44- There was a great community amongst - the competitors.

0:17:44 > 0:17:48- It was a real honour too.

0:17:48 > 0:17:52- It gave me a lot of confidence too.

0:17:52 > 0:17:56- I'd won at the Urdd Eisteddfod.

0:17:56 > 0:18:01- I'd love to do it again.

0:18:02 > 0:18:06- We've mentioned that you compete - a lot in the Eisteddfod.

0:18:06 > 0:18:10- I had a lot of success.

0:18:11 > 0:18:15- Delyth Mair Nicholas helped a lot.

0:18:16 > 0:18:19- I'd advise anyone to do it.

0:18:19 > 0:18:22- Let's step back in time - to when you started performing.

0:18:22 > 0:18:28- I don't like to boast but enjoy - drama and reciting and singing.

0:18:29 > 0:18:33- I'm not saying - that I'm brilliant at them all...

0:18:33 > 0:18:36- ..but those are the things - that top the list at the moment.

0:18:36 > 0:18:41- I like dancing and don't compete - but I used to when I was younger.

0:18:41 > 0:18:45- What did you think of that?

0:18:45 > 0:18:48- I can't believe - that you had that clip!

0:18:49 > 0:18:52- I don't dance any more.

0:18:52 > 0:18:59- I hate dancing.

0:18:59 > 0:19:05- That brings back a lot of memories.

0:19:05 > 0:19:15- The Eisteddfod gives you a target.

0:19:16 > 0:19:21- It was a great way to give you - a target.

0:19:21 > 0:19:31- I've started back in the Eisteddfod.

0:19:32 > 0:19:38- I was in Lampeter over the summer.

0:19:38 > 0:19:41- I'm doing the recitation - competitions.

0:19:41 > 0:19:45- If you travelled around Ceredigion - until the early 1960s...

0:19:45 > 0:19:48- ..you'll be familiar with the train, - the Cardi Bach.

0:19:48 > 0:19:51- It carried merchandise and people - all over the county.

0:19:52 > 0:19:55- The line was famous for its - steam engine and lively workforce.

0:19:55 > 0:19:58- That workforce gathered to reminisce - and Daf Wyn joined them.

0:19:59 > 0:20:03- The Cardi Bach train ran - from Whitland to Cardigan...

0:20:03 > 0:20:07- ..opening as a goods train in 1873.

0:20:07 > 0:20:11- Later on, it also - carried passengers.

0:20:11 > 0:20:15- The line closed in 1963.

0:20:15 > 0:20:18- The station is now - a cafe and museum...

0:20:19 > 0:20:22- ..having been restored - by the owners.

0:20:22 > 0:20:27- Last week, some former workers came - to reminisce about the Cardi Bach.

0:20:28 > 0:20:35- It's don't think so many Cardi Bach - workers have ever come together.

0:20:35 > 0:20:38- Some of these don't know each other.

0:20:39 > 0:20:45- Some worked in Cardigan, - others in Whitland and Llanfallteg.

0:20:45 > 0:20:49- It's great that they're able - to meet each other.

0:20:49 > 0:20:52- I started on the railways - on 10 October, 1954.

0:20:52 > 0:20:58- When I was 23, I became a - stationmaster, the youngest ever.

0:20:59 > 0:21:04- I think the record still stands - to this day.

0:21:05 > 0:21:09- Which memories come to mind - when you think of the Cardi Bach?

0:21:09 > 0:21:14- The characters, definitely.

0:21:14 > 0:21:19- If you were late with the first - train going through the villages...

0:21:20 > 0:21:23- ..they would all know about it - in town.

0:21:23 > 0:21:27- "The 7.00am train was late - this morning" they would say.

0:21:28 > 0:21:32- It was part of the community.

0:21:32 > 0:21:35- People even set the time by it.

0:21:35 > 0:21:38- The Whitland doctors delivered - medicine on the train.

0:21:38 > 0:21:42- It didn't just run between stations.

0:21:42 > 0:21:45- You might stop to pick up - a fisherman...

0:21:45 > 0:21:48- ..or even a salmon!

0:21:49 > 0:21:52- I would use a shovel.

0:21:52 > 0:21:55- I was young then, - far more agile than I am now.

0:21:55 > 0:21:59- I was using the shovel, - turning around like this...

0:21:59 > 0:22:03- ..when it slipped from my hands - into the firebox.

0:22:03 > 0:22:07- That was the end of it - because it couldn't be recovered.

0:22:07 > 0:22:13- We then had to use a bucket - to fire the engine.

0:22:13 > 0:22:16- I enjoyed every minute - on the Cardi Bach.

0:22:17 > 0:22:23- It was more enjoyable with some - drivers than it was with others.

0:22:25 > 0:22:30- It stopped on 6 September, 1963.

0:22:30 > 0:22:34- They cleared it all - and lifted up the track.

0:22:34 > 0:22:37- It was a tough time.

0:22:37 > 0:22:43- People had worked hard - to open the line.

0:22:44 > 0:22:47- It was closed so suddenly, - a great shame.

0:22:47 > 0:22:52- It was so pretty at this time - of year with the holidaymakers.

0:22:52 > 0:22:55- You closed the Cardi Bach - for the very last time.

0:22:55 > 0:22:58- Yes, the boxes - and most of the gates.

0:22:58 > 0:23:02- I still have the keys.

0:23:02 > 0:23:05- Nobody knows!

0:23:05 > 0:23:09- What do you think of the - get-together this morning.

0:23:09 > 0:23:15- I can't describe how it feels to - meet up with some great friends.

0:23:15 > 0:23:19- I know each and very one of them.

0:23:19 > 0:23:23- It didn't mean so much - when you met them.

0:23:23 > 0:23:27- Today has been so much more natural.

0:23:27 > 0:23:32- I really enjoyed myself.

0:23:34 > 0:23:37- There aren't many of us left - so it was nice to meet up.

0:23:38 > 0:23:40- Indeed.

0:23:40 > 0:23:44- We had a great little community - on the railways.

0:23:44 > 0:23:47- It's made me quite nostalgic.

0:23:47 > 0:23:50- It was lovely to meet up - with old friends.

0:23:50 > 0:23:54- Cardi Bach Forever!

0:23:56 > 0:23:59- It was great to hear - those fond memories.

0:23:59 > 0:24:01- That's all for tonight.

0:24:02 > 0:24:05- It's been lovely to chat - with Glesni Euros tonight.

0:24:05 > 0:24:09- Good luck with Hacio next month.

0:24:09 > 0:24:12- Heulwen Haf is in the studio - on tomorrow's Heno.

0:24:12 > 0:24:14- Until tomorrow, goodnight.