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0:00:17 > 0:00:22- Hello and welcome to Wednesday's - Heno live from Llanelli.
0:00:22 > 0:00:26- We hope you've enjoyed your day.
0:00:26 > 0:00:29- Daf Wyn is in London - for us this evening.
0:00:29 > 0:00:33- Good evening and welcome to - this underground club in London.
0:00:33 > 0:00:37- It's the launch of the album by the - singer and actress, Ffion Wilkins.
0:00:37 > 0:00:38- How are you feeling?
0:00:38 > 0:00:40- How are you feeling?- - I'm nervous!
0:00:40 > 0:00:42- This is your debut album.
0:00:42 > 0:00:45- This is your debut album.- - Yes, and the band is tuning up.
0:00:45 > 0:00:48- I can't do anything about it now.
0:00:48 > 0:00:51- It's starting soon - and I'll chat to you about it later.
0:00:51 > 0:00:55- One of my studio guests has come - all the way from Australia.
0:00:55 > 0:00:59- He's a former rugby player who has - lived in Australia for 40 years...
0:00:59 > 0:01:03- ..and has had a successful career - in both Wales and Australia.
0:01:03 > 0:01:07- He's returned for a holiday and - we're delighted to have him here.
0:01:07 > 0:01:10- Welcome back to Wales - and welcome to Heno, Geoff Davies.
0:01:11 > 0:01:12- Thank you very much.
0:01:13 > 0:01:18- How are you finding the weather - back in Wales?
0:01:18 > 0:01:21- Life is treating me well - despite the weather!
0:01:21 > 0:01:24- Rhodri Davies samples some new beer - at the Tiny Rebel brewery.
0:01:25 > 0:01:28- I'm at the brewery that has been - named the best in the UK.
0:01:29 > 0:01:33- I'll tell you all about it later.
0:01:33 > 0:01:38- Catrin Wager also joins us to talk - about the charity, Pobl i Bobl.
0:01:38 > 0:01:44- We'll hear all about the charity's - work with refugees later.
0:01:44 > 0:01:49- Sit back and relax for the next - 30 minutes for tonight's Heno.
0:01:55 > 0:01:59- Mark Lewis Jones is - a well-known actor across Britain.
0:02:00 > 0:02:03- He's portrayed David Lloyd George - on the BBC...
0:02:03 > 0:02:07- ..and a favourite in the series, - Stella with Ruth Jones.
0:02:07 > 0:02:10- He's also a regular on S4C.
0:02:11 > 0:02:14- Mark is currently starring with - Robbie Coltrane and Julie Walters...
0:02:15 > 0:02:18- ..in the series, National Treasure - on Channel 4 every Tuesday.
0:02:19 > 0:02:22- Angharad chatted to Mark - at the BAFTA Cymru nominees party.
0:02:32 > 0:02:37- Congratulations on your nomination - in the BAFTA Cymru awards, Mark.
0:02:38 > 0:02:45- You're currently appearing in the - high-profile television drama...
0:02:45 > 0:02:48- ..National Treasure - starring Robbie Coltrane.
0:02:48 > 0:02:51- What's it like?
0:02:52 > 0:02:58- I've seen the first episode - and there are three more to come.
0:02:58 > 0:03:03- It's about - a very interesting subject.
0:03:04 > 0:03:08- The way it has been shot - is very clever.
0:03:09 > 0:03:15- Robbie Coltrane and Julie Walters - are fantastic in the series.
0:03:20 > 0:03:22- It's a very topical subject.
0:03:23 > 0:03:27- Robbie Coltrane plays a comedian - accused of historic sexual abuse.
0:03:28 > 0:03:33- Did the script grab you - when you first read it?
0:03:33 > 0:03:40- Yes, and the subject has been - treated very well in the script.
0:03:41 > 0:03:46- It's both brave and sensitive.
0:03:46 > 0:03:51- The story develops over the four - episodes and there's lots of twists.
0:03:51 > 0:03:56- I play Gerry who is an ex-detective.
0:03:56 > 0:04:01- Gerry is called upon to discover - information the police cannot find.
0:04:02 > 0:04:09- He's a private investigator - who knows where to find information.
0:04:09 > 0:04:16- It's very different to Byw Celwydd - and you're working on that now.
0:04:16 > 0:04:21- After filming, - you face a massive challenge.
0:04:21 > 0:04:26- Yes, I'm doing - another ultra marathon.
0:04:26 > 0:04:32- It's in the Brecon Beacons - in November and 47 miles long.
0:04:32 > 0:04:36- I'm running for Marie Curie - in Penarth.
0:04:36 > 0:04:43- You joined Lowri Morgan on her - challenge that will feature on S4C.
0:04:43 > 0:04:48- Yes, I did a small part - of her challenge.
0:04:48 > 0:04:55- She ran from Snowdon to the top - of Pen y Fan via Cader Idris!
0:04:55 > 0:04:59- I did the last section with her.
0:04:59 > 0:05:03- I think that last section - was quite intense!
0:05:04 > 0:05:09- It's great to see you on - an important television series.
0:05:09 > 0:05:14- I'm delighted that you're still - working hard in Wales too.
0:05:14 > 0:05:17- Good luck in the BAFTAs next week.
0:05:17 > 0:05:20- Good luck in the BAFTAs next week.- - Thank you very much.
0:05:20 > 0:05:23- Good luck to Mark in the - BAFTA Cymru awards on Sunday.
0:05:24 > 0:05:28- He's been nominated as Best Actor - for Yr Ymadawiad (The Passing).
0:05:28 > 0:05:32- There's still tickets left to the - event if you want to be there too!
0:05:32 > 0:05:35- The former rugby player, - Geoff Davies is my guest tonight.
0:05:36 > 0:05:39- Welcome to the programme.
0:05:39 > 0:05:43- Geoff has had a successful rugby - career in Wales and Australia.
0:05:44 > 0:05:47- You've played with some of the best.
0:05:47 > 0:05:57- Yes, that's right.
0:06:01 > 0:06:08- In school, - I played with Terry Price.
0:06:08 > 0:06:18- He was one of the best players - in Wales.
0:06:26 > 0:06:33- I also played with JPR Williams - and many others.
0:06:33 > 0:06:43- You live in Australia, but you are - originally from Llwynhendy.
0:06:54 > 0:06:57- My rugby career started in the - grammar school.
0:06:57 > 0:06:59- I loved football before that!
0:07:00 > 0:07:02- It changed very quickly to rugby.
0:07:02 > 0:07:05- The school won the Public Schools 7s - three times...
0:07:06 > 0:07:09- ..in the 1960s.
0:07:10 > 0:07:13- I went to Loughborough.
0:07:14 > 0:07:17- I was there with Gerald Davies.
0:07:17 > 0:07:27- There was other English players too.
0:07:27 > 0:07:34- Did the Welsh boys stick together?
0:07:34 > 0:07:40- Yes, the Welsh always stuck - together in college!
0:07:40 > 0:07:50- I had success with the - Middlesex 7s too...
0:07:51 > 0:07:54- ..and we won in 1966.
0:07:54 > 0:07:59- You played for Llanelli - during the holidays.
0:07:59 > 0:08:03- Terry and I would come back - from university...
0:08:03 > 0:08:07- ..and would play for Llanelli.
0:08:07 > 0:08:14- How did you end up in Australia?
0:08:14 > 0:08:19- I'd finished playing rugby - in Wales in 1975.
0:08:19 > 0:08:27- I met some lads from Australia...
0:08:27 > 0:08:33- ..when Wales played Australia - in 1975.
0:08:33 > 0:08:42- I met a man from Queensland.
0:08:42 > 0:08:52- At the time, Welsh rugby was the - best in the world.
0:09:00 > 0:09:06- He thought that Australia needed - more of a Welsh influence.
0:09:06 > 0:09:11- How long did you expect to stay?
0:09:11 > 0:09:15- I went there for six months...
0:09:19 > 0:09:23- I love living in Australia.
0:09:23 > 0:09:28- I've got nothing against Wales.
0:09:28 > 0:09:35- I think the weather is the best - thing about Australia.
0:09:35 > 0:09:44- I've got three girls and two boys.
0:09:44 > 0:09:48- My 22-year-old son - wants to play rugby.
0:09:48 > 0:09:52- He's done well in Queensland.
0:09:52 > 0:09:59- He wants to play rugby in Wales.
0:09:59 > 0:10:02- He has injured himself so is out for - a few weeks!
0:10:02 > 0:10:05- We'll chat again - before the end of the programme.
0:10:05 > 0:10:09- After the break, Daf Wyn chats with - the singer, Ffion Wilkins in London.
0:10:09 > 0:10:13- Rhodri Davies is at the Tiny Rebel - brewery that has won many awards.
0:10:13 > 0:10:18- Catrin Wager joins Geoff and me to - talk about the charity, Pobl i Bobl.
0:10:18 > 0:10:21- It supports refugees.
0:10:21 > 0:10:23- See you in a few minutes.
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0:10:37 > 0:10:38- Welcome back.
0:10:39 > 0:10:42- It's a massive night in London - for Ffion Wilkins from West Wales.
0:10:42 > 0:10:46- Ffion is a familiar face - on the small screen...
0:10:46 > 0:10:50- ..but is busy making a name for - herself on the London music scene.
0:10:50 > 0:10:54- She's even recorded - with Chris de Burgh.
0:10:54 > 0:10:57- Daf Wyn is in London for the
0:10:58 > 0:11:01- Good evening, Daf.
0:11:01 > 0:11:06- This is your debut album and how do - you feel about the launch in London?
0:11:06 > 0:11:10- I'm very nervous - and didn't sleep a wink last night.
0:11:11 > 0:11:16- I'm excited but nervous too - because that's me.
0:11:17 > 0:11:22- I've put everything into it - and people will hear it tonight.
0:11:22 > 0:11:25- Why are you releasing the album now?
0:11:25 > 0:11:30- I've always written songs...
0:11:30 > 0:11:37- ..and entered Can i Gymru - with the late, Sioned James in 2003.
0:11:37 > 0:11:42- I started thinking about music - seriously at that time...
0:11:42 > 0:11:48- ..and it's taken time to do it - between my acting.
0:11:48 > 0:11:54- It's taken time and money - but we're here now.
0:11:54 > 0:11:58- It's been a labour of love.
0:11:58 > 0:12:04- There's 13 songs and a music video - with track two, Take It Or Leave It.
0:12:04 > 0:12:08- Everyone makes music videos - these days...
0:12:08 > 0:12:14- ..so we hired a boat on the Thames, - as you do!
0:12:14 > 0:12:19- The lads in the band found it odd - because the boat was moving...
0:12:20 > 0:12:27- ..but the room had a great ambience - and we had a lot of fun.
0:12:28 > 0:12:32- Where did you get the inspiration - for your songs?
0:12:32 > 0:12:38- There's personal experiences - and things that I've made up!
0:12:38 > 0:12:46- It all depends on what comes to me - when I'm composing at the piano.
0:12:46 > 0:12:52- I start with the chords and there's - no telling when the lyrics come.
0:12:52 > 0:12:57- That's how it happens - but it isn't always like that.
0:12:57 > 0:13:04- You don't do things by half as you - have a full band with you tonight.
0:13:04 > 0:13:08- They aren't here now - but have disappeared.
0:13:08 > 0:13:14- There's nine of us on the stage and - I like doing things on a big scale.
0:13:14 > 0:13:21- I can't have a full orchestra but - the nine of us can make some noise.
0:13:21 > 0:13:25- Why choose to launch the album - in London?
0:13:25 > 0:13:29- I do a lot of work here - and most of the band is from London.
0:13:29 > 0:13:35- The drummer and pianist are Welsh!
0:13:35 > 0:13:43- It's easier to do it here and - I did a lot of recording in London.
0:13:43 > 0:13:49- You're known as an actress - so are you still acting?
0:13:49 > 0:13:52- Yes, but only when I lie!
0:13:53 > 0:14:01- I haven't acted in a while but am - happy to concentrate on the music.
0:14:01 > 0:14:05- I might do some more acting - at a later date.
0:14:05 > 0:14:10- It's going to be a great night - but where can people buy the CD?
0:14:10 > 0:14:16- You can buy a hard copy from Amazon - and hope to have it to download.
0:14:16 > 0:14:19- Do you think I can keep this copy?
0:14:19 > 0:14:21- Do you think I can keep this copy?- - Oh, alright.
0:14:21 > 0:14:23- You can sign it later.
0:14:23 > 0:14:25- You can sign it later.- - Give me some money.
0:14:26 > 0:14:29- Thank you and good luck - with this great evening in London.
0:14:29 > 0:14:32- Back to you in the studio.
0:14:32 > 0:14:34- Thank you.
0:14:34 > 0:14:37- Good luck to Ffion with her album.
0:14:37 > 0:14:42- The daily news always features a - story about the refugee crisis...
0:14:43 > 0:14:45- ..and the bloody war in Syria.
0:14:45 > 0:14:50- Over 4.5 million people fled their - homes to find a new place to live.
0:14:50 > 0:14:54- The problem continues to grow - and the refugees rely on our help.
0:14:54 > 0:14:58- Geoff and I are now joined - by Catrin Wager...
0:14:58 > 0:15:01- ..the chairperson of the charity, - Pobl i Bobl.
0:15:01 > 0:15:04- Welcome to the programme.
0:15:04 > 0:15:11- Thank you.
0:15:11 > 0:15:14- Tell us about the charity.
0:15:15 > 0:15:21- Pobl i Bobl is a charity.
0:15:21 > 0:15:31- It's a group that helps those - from across the world.
0:15:35 > 0:15:43- In this case, - we hope to help refugees.
0:15:44 > 0:15:50- There's 65 million refugees - in the world at the moment.
0:15:50 > 0:15:57- We want to help them.
0:15:58 > 0:16:02- You've taken goods abroad.
0:16:02 > 0:16:06- Yes, that's right.
0:16:07 > 0:16:13- I was one of the first - to go to Calais...
0:16:13 > 0:16:19- ..but I've also been to a refugee - camp in Greece.
0:16:19 > 0:16:25- It was an incredible experience.
0:16:26 > 0:16:29- It's was heart-breaking.
0:16:29 > 0:16:34- It was heart-breaking.
0:16:34 > 0:16:41- It was terrible to see the children - being locked up.
0:16:42 > 0:16:49- I'm lucky that I got to visit the - children.
0:16:49 > 0:16:55- The children are like the children - of Wales...
0:16:55 > 0:17:01- ..but they have seen things...
0:17:02 > 0:17:08- ..that no child should - ever have to see.
0:17:08 > 0:17:13- It was easier to be there...
0:17:13 > 0:17:18- ..than to see the pictures - on the television.
0:17:18 > 0:17:24- I felt as if I was doing something.
0:17:25 > 0:17:32- The people have great stories.
0:17:32 > 0:17:41- I don't know how people have lived - through these experiences.
0:17:41 > 0:17:46- It was terrible when I left.
0:17:46 > 0:17:56- These people need clothes - and blankets.
0:17:57 > 0:18:00- You think about these people - when you get home.
0:18:01 > 0:18:06- This problem can also be seen - in Australia.
0:18:06 > 0:18:11- There's been refugees in Australia - for about 15 years.
0:18:11 > 0:18:16- They have tried to be successful.
0:18:17 > 0:18:23- There's an array of fund-raising - events.
0:18:23 > 0:18:33- Yes, that's right.
0:18:34 > 0:18:44- We want to be more positive - about the refugees.
0:18:45 > 0:18:51- We want to show that they are - people like you or I...
0:18:51 > 0:19:00- ..at the end of the day.
0:19:00 > 0:19:04- It isn't helping that people are so - negative.
0:19:04 > 0:19:09- The situation isn't getting any - better at the moment.
0:19:09 > 0:19:13- Independent breweries are currently - enjoying a revival in Wales...
0:19:13 > 0:19:17- ..led by Tiny Rebel in Newport, - the current UK Brewer of the Year.
0:19:17 > 0:19:20- The company has also won - an array of international awards.
0:19:20 > 0:19:24- Rhodri has been to find out more - about their distinguished history.
0:19:24 > 0:19:28- How do you know - that you've hit the big time?
0:19:28 > 0:19:32- It's when you start brewing beer - in your garage...
0:19:33 > 0:19:37- ..and end up brewing - on this industrial scale...
0:19:38 > 0:19:44- ..whilst also winning awards - for your beer!
0:19:49 > 0:19:56- Tiny Rebel started in 2012 - in a garage in Newport...
0:19:56 > 0:20:02- ..with Bradley Cummings - and Gareth Williams.
0:20:02 > 0:20:05- Brewing beer was their hobby.
0:20:05 > 0:20:09- It's a massive leap - from there to here.
0:20:09 > 0:20:13- What's the process of going from - a garage to where you are today?
0:20:13 > 0:20:18- It takes a lot of hard work and - you need to be passionate about it.
0:20:19 > 0:20:25- We sit down together - and discuss ideas for the beer.
0:20:26 > 0:20:32- We make a tester before producing - more to sell across the country.
0:20:32 > 0:20:36- Tiny Rebel exports to Australia, - Japan, China and America...
0:20:36 > 0:20:41- ..as well as serving Britain.
0:20:42 > 0:20:46- There's also a pub in Cardiff with - customers from around the globe.
0:20:46 > 0:20:51- I'm a manager at the Urban Tap House - and we sell Tiny Rebel beer.
0:20:51 > 0:20:58- It's a massive brand - around the world.
0:21:02 > 0:21:08- Do you have Welsh customers too and - do the Welsh know about this beer?
0:21:08 > 0:21:13- Yes, I speak Welsh to people - whenever I'm in work.
0:21:13 > 0:21:18- There's four or five Welsh speakers - working behind the bar...
0:21:18 > 0:21:22- ..so Welsh speakers come here - and drink Welsh beer.
0:21:23 > 0:21:27- I'm a massive fan of - independent beers or craft beers.
0:21:27 > 0:21:33- I learnt about Tiny Rebel - through Instagram and Facebook.
0:21:33 > 0:21:38- They suggested that I try the beer - by Tiny Rebel that's made in Wales!
0:21:38 > 0:21:45- I've been to the brewery in Newport - and Brad gave me a tour.
0:21:46 > 0:21:51- Their beer isn't wishy-washy - and doesn't pull its punches!
0:21:51 > 0:21:56- What do they have in terms - of the ingredients and flavours?
0:21:56 > 0:22:00- There's plenty!
0:22:00 > 0:22:06- The Hadouken is 7.4% and - the Frambuzi is a raspberry sour.
0:22:06 > 0:22:11- One of our newest is the Stay Puft - which is a marshmallow stout.
0:22:11 > 0:22:15- It's a stout, similar to Guinness - but better!
0:22:16 > 0:22:23- There's Dirty Stop Out, Cwtch, Cali - and names that cannot be explained!
0:22:23 > 0:22:30- These give you an idea of why - Tiny Rebel is so successful.
0:22:30 > 0:22:34- We're the only back-to-back - winners at the Great Welsh.
0:22:34 > 0:22:38- Tiny Rebel was first, second - and third in the previous year.
0:22:38 > 0:22:41- We've been named - the UK Brewer of the Year...
0:22:42 > 0:22:48- ..so we're delighted - to beat off 2,000 breweries.
0:22:48 > 0:22:53- The Welsh enjoy their beer and are - willing to go out and look for it.
0:22:53 > 0:22:57- We're so lucky to have this - on our own doorstep.
0:22:57 > 0:23:00- What are the hopes for the future?
0:23:00 > 0:23:04- We're hoping to move to - a new brewery in December...
0:23:04 > 0:23:08- ..to produce more beer - that people want to taste...
0:23:08 > 0:23:14- ..and win more awards - and have more fun!
0:23:14 > 0:23:15- Do you want to take over the world?
0:23:15 > 0:23:17- Do you want to take over the world?- - Yes, I hope so!
0:23:20 > 0:23:22- Good luck to Tiny Rebel!
0:23:23 > 0:23:25- The former rugby player, - Geoff Davies...
0:23:25 > 0:23:29- ..and Catrin Wager, the chairperson - of the charity, Pobl i Bobl...
0:23:29 > 0:23:31- ..have been my studio guests - this evening.
0:23:31 > 0:23:36- Thank you for joining me - this evening.
0:23:36 > 0:23:41- What's next on the cards - for Pobl i Bobl, Catrin?
0:23:41 > 0:23:51- We always need help.
0:23:52 > 0:23:56- People can help Pobl i Bobl - via our Facebook page.
0:23:56 > 0:24:03- We also have a website.
0:24:03 > 0:24:06- People can contact us at any time.
0:24:06 > 0:24:10- When are you going back - to Australia, Geoff?
0:24:11 > 0:24:13- I'm going back to Australia - on Sunday.
0:24:14 > 0:24:15- Thank you.
0:24:16 > 0:24:18- That's all we have time - for this evening.
0:24:18 > 0:24:21- Prynhawn Da - returns tomorrow at 2.00pm.
0:24:21 > 0:24:24- Join us for Heno at 7.00pm tomorrow.
0:24:25 > 0:24:28- We're in Cardiff Bay to welcome - our Olympic stars home from Rio.
0:24:28 > 0:24:32- There's also an event in Caernarfon - for our best poets and musicians.
0:24:33 > 0:24:35- Until tomorrow, goodbye.
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