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0:00:21 > 0:00:26- The striking building behind me - is home to News UK.
0:00:26 > 0:00:32- Media mogul, Rupert Murdoch, - has an office on the top floor.
0:00:32 > 0:00:35- A few floors below, - on the tenth floor...
0:00:35 > 0:00:40- ..Guto Harri has an office and - they say that he's on his way up.
0:00:40 > 0:00:46- In 1982, Guto Harri joined me - in the studio to prepare a meal.
0:00:46 > 0:00:49- It's time for us to have a catch-up.
0:00:49 > 0:00:53- What if we had to prepare a meal - for a party of ten?
0:00:53 > 0:00:56- What would we feed them?
0:00:56 > 0:01:00- We posed this question - to the famous chef, Guto Harri.
0:01:01 > 0:01:03- Give him a round of applause.
0:01:03 > 0:01:05- APPLAUSE
0:01:09 > 0:01:12- After that - impressive introduction...
0:01:12 > 0:01:14- ..tell us what you've made.
0:01:15 > 0:01:17- Here we go. Welcome to London.
0:01:17 > 0:01:18- This is your meal.
0:01:18 > 0:01:20- This is your meal.- - Thank you.
0:01:20 > 0:01:22- It's freshly baked.
0:01:22 > 0:01:24- What exactly is it?
0:01:24 > 0:01:27- What exactly is it?- - It's cod.
0:01:27 > 0:01:30- It's a healthy fish - but not the tastiest.
0:01:31 > 0:01:35- The extra ingredients - make it more interesting.
0:01:35 > 0:01:40- There's chorizo, - basil and tomatoes.
0:01:40 > 0:01:44- You've also got butter beans - to make it more nourishing.
0:01:45 > 0:01:46- It's all freshly made.
0:01:47 > 0:01:50- You can savour it - with a glass of wine.
0:01:50 > 0:01:52- We didn't have any wine in 1982!
0:01:53 > 0:01:55- How old was I back then?
0:01:55 > 0:01:56- Fifteen?
0:01:56 > 0:01:58- Fifteen?- - I think I was sixteen.
0:01:58 > 0:02:00- I was studying for my O Levels.
0:02:00 > 0:02:03- Why did you come to the studio?
0:02:03 > 0:02:06- Was it because - you had a passion for cooking?
0:02:06 > 0:02:09- I've always had - a passion for cooking.
0:02:09 > 0:02:12- It's continued over the years.
0:02:13 > 0:02:14- Cheers.
0:02:14 > 0:02:16- Cheers.- - Cheers. Thank you.
0:02:16 > 0:02:18- I've got a simple melon starter.
0:02:19 > 0:02:24- Cooking also helps me relax - and it's a way to socialize.
0:02:24 > 0:02:28- I'm the cook in our house, - not the wife.
0:02:28 > 0:02:31- Do you cook at meal times?
0:02:31 > 0:02:34- Do you cook at meal times?- - Not whilst I'm at work.
0:02:35 > 0:02:40- It's the first time for me to serve - a meal in this lavish dining room.
0:02:40 > 0:02:43- Several dignitaries - have dined here.
0:02:43 > 0:02:46- Who's sat in this chair before me?
0:02:46 > 0:02:50- The former Foreign Secretary - and Home Secretary, Jack Straw...
0:02:51 > 0:02:54- ..and chief executives - have sat in that chair.
0:02:54 > 0:02:57- Reputable reporters - and newspaper editors.
0:02:57 > 0:03:01- The big man himself - definitely dines on this floor.
0:03:02 > 0:03:04- You're referring to Rupert Murdoch.
0:03:05 > 0:03:08- When he's in London, - he dines on this floor.
0:03:08 > 0:03:10- What's he like in person?
0:03:11 > 0:03:14- He's quite an inquisitive person.
0:03:14 > 0:03:19- He's energetic, agile and - has an interest in several fields.
0:03:20 > 0:03:25- He can jump from the lack of wages - for the Pakistan militia...
0:03:25 > 0:03:30- ..to why Republicans don't win - Hispanic votes in America...
0:03:30 > 0:03:33- ..to the cost of ink and paper.
0:03:33 > 0:03:37- He knows every aspect - of the press industry.
0:03:37 > 0:03:43- You portray him as a kind uncle - but he's a tough nut to crack.
0:03:43 > 0:03:47- He's a shrewd - but successful businessman...
0:03:47 > 0:03:50- ..who's incredibly audacious.
0:03:50 > 0:03:54- Over the years, he's gambled - everything on the company.
0:03:54 > 0:03:59- When he created Sky to contend with - the BBC, a free service provider...
0:03:59 > 0:04:05- ..he put everything on the line - and was prepared to lose everything.
0:04:05 > 0:04:07- He's charismatic...
0:04:07 > 0:04:12- ..but this doesn't suggest - that he's not a tough nut!
0:04:12 > 0:04:16- Rupert Murdoch - would be the dessert course...
0:04:17 > 0:04:20- ..as he appears - at the end of your story.
0:04:20 > 0:04:24- Let's revisit that 16-year-old - Llanhari schoolboy...
0:04:24 > 0:04:27- ..who studied at Oxford.
0:04:27 > 0:04:31- Why did you choose Oxford - over Wales?
0:04:31 > 0:04:36- It's an incredible honour - for anyone to study at Oxford.
0:04:36 > 0:04:41- It's a privileged education - in terms of tutorials...
0:04:41 > 0:04:47- ..and one-to-one sessions with those - who are at the top of their game.
0:04:47 > 0:04:50- They are real experts - in their fields.
0:04:51 > 0:04:57- Spending an hour with them was - daunting but it helped my career.
0:04:57 > 0:05:02- You had dreams of becoming - an international journalist.
0:05:02 > 0:05:06- I wanted to be a journalist - and had a passion for politics.
0:05:07 > 0:05:11- I was fortunate to be sent abroad - early in my career.
0:05:11 > 0:05:16- I was 23 and sent to Eastern Europe - to cover the fall of Communism.
0:05:16 > 0:05:20- It was a stoke of luck - that someone missed their flight...
0:05:20 > 0:05:26- ..so I was sent to report from Saudi - Arabia during the first Gulf War.
0:05:26 > 0:05:29- I was a young man, - the same age as the soldiers...
0:05:30 > 0:05:33- ..and was in the middle - of the desert for weeks.
0:05:33 > 0:05:39- Are you able to view this world - in Iraq from a Welsh perspective?
0:05:40 > 0:05:43- It's certainly - an interesting question.
0:05:43 > 0:05:47- I'd discuss it - with the likes of Gwilym Owen.
0:05:47 > 0:05:51- You can't apply a Welsh perspective - on every situation.
0:05:52 > 0:05:57- The Welsh see the world though the - eyes of David rather than Goliath.
0:05:58 > 0:06:04- Therefore, we're more open - to philanthropic developments...
0:06:04 > 0:06:09- ..and to the grievances of small - nations against greater powers.
0:06:10 > 0:06:13- I felt quite comfortable - in Jordan...
0:06:13 > 0:06:18- ..when they opposed America's - dominance in the Arabic countries.
0:06:19 > 0:06:24- Having spent the majority - of my career in politics...
0:06:24 > 0:06:30- ..my interest in making politics - rather than reporting on it...
0:06:30 > 0:06:34- ..evolved gradually over the years.
0:06:34 > 0:06:37- I felt quite passionate about it.
0:06:38 > 0:06:42- Major decisions were being made - behind a closed door...
0:06:42 > 0:06:46- ..and the journalists - were kept on the outside.
0:06:46 > 0:06:51- I reached a point where I wanted - to be behind that closed door.
0:06:52 > 0:06:54- That door was Number 10.
0:06:55 > 0:06:59- You almost worked for David Cameron.
0:06:59 > 0:07:04- I would liaise with him when - he was Leader of the Opposition.
0:07:04 > 0:07:09- If only I knew that - he'd end up at Number 10!
0:07:09 > 0:07:14- I had already witnessed - three Conservative leaders...
0:07:14 > 0:07:19- ..face a grim - and unpleasant downfall...
0:07:19 > 0:07:22- ..and I felt - a sense of uncertainty.
0:07:22 > 0:07:28- When I was offered a job with my - old college friend, Boris Johnson...
0:07:28 > 0:07:30- ..I jumped at the chance.
0:07:30 > 0:07:34- It's ironic that you're working - for Rupert Murdoch...
0:07:34 > 0:07:38- ..and the person who got the job - you wanted was Andy Coulson.
0:07:39 > 0:07:43- Yes, he used to work - in the building behind us.
0:07:43 > 0:07:45- What type of person is Boris?
0:07:46 > 0:07:48- When he's out in public...
0:07:48 > 0:07:53- ..people will insult him - by calling him a "buffoon".
0:07:53 > 0:07:56- He's an intelligent gentleman.
0:07:56 > 0:07:58- But what's he like in private?
0:07:59 > 0:08:03- He's incredibly intelligent, - but a comical character.
0:08:03 > 0:08:06- He also works like a fool.
0:08:06 > 0:08:09- People aren't aware - that he wakes at 5.00am...
0:08:10 > 0:08:13- ..and reads all the newspapers - by 6.00am.
0:08:13 > 0:08:19- By 6.15am, he wanted to discuss the - news so my day started very early!
0:08:19 > 0:08:25- He writes every word - of his own speeches.
0:08:25 > 0:08:27- Very few politicians do this.
0:08:27 > 0:08:33- He's on his feet until midnight, - but we had a lot of fun together.
0:08:33 > 0:08:39- I feel proud of our many feats - and we had some great moments.
0:08:40 > 0:08:42- Was it difficult to leave Boris?
0:08:42 > 0:08:46- Yes, it was tough - but we have remained friends.
0:08:46 > 0:08:50- My office was based - across the water over there.
0:08:50 > 0:08:52- We still keep in touch.
0:08:52 > 0:08:56- We're enjoying a meal - at your current place of work.
0:08:56 > 0:08:58- What is your exact role?
0:08:58 > 0:09:01- I'm a member of the company's - management board.
0:09:01 > 0:09:06- Our 4,000 staff produce The Times, - The Sunday Times and The Sun.
0:09:06 > 0:09:12- The Sun is a popular UK tabloid and - The Times is a respected broadsheet.
0:09:12 > 0:09:16- Our newspapers report on - other people's stories...
0:09:16 > 0:09:19- ..and I report on our story - as a company.
0:09:19 > 0:09:22- Our story was once tarnished.
0:09:22 > 0:09:27- When they employed me, nobody - wanted to liaise with the company.
0:09:27 > 0:09:32- One of our newspapers had closed - as nobody wanted to advertise in it.
0:09:32 > 0:09:36- I was employed to restore - the company's good name.
0:09:36 > 0:09:39- Do you have to believe in your job?
0:09:40 > 0:09:44- I'm a strong believer - in professionalism...
0:09:44 > 0:09:47- ..and being true to yourself.
0:09:47 > 0:09:53- You were critical of the company - prior to landing the job.
0:09:53 > 0:09:57- I don't think - there are any inconsistencies.
0:09:58 > 0:10:03- A small group of individuals - who have yet to be found guilty...
0:10:03 > 0:10:06- ..carried out - some inappropriate deeds.
0:10:06 > 0:10:12- You can't blame 4,000 people for - the actions of just 20 individuals.
0:10:12 > 0:10:15- Therefore, - I feel strongly about this.
0:10:15 > 0:10:19- I disagree with the idea - of blaming institutes.
0:10:19 > 0:10:23- Institutes are people - and people are individuals.
0:10:23 > 0:10:28- You're not a bad person because - of your colleague's misdemeanours.
0:10:29 > 0:10:31- Do you still travel the world?
0:10:31 > 0:10:35- I pay several visits - to our New York office.
0:10:35 > 0:10:40- I visit every three months - to meet company executives.
0:10:41 > 0:10:43- I don't travel - as much as I used to.
0:10:43 > 0:10:46- Sometimes, I visit our LA offices.
0:10:46 > 0:10:49- Are you an ambitious person?
0:10:49 > 0:10:52- I think I must be.
0:10:52 > 0:10:55- You should know!
0:10:55 > 0:10:59- You can't go to Oxford - from a South Wales school...
0:10:59 > 0:11:04- ..or become a television reporter - without showing ambition.
0:11:04 > 0:11:07- I don't consider myself - as ambitious...
0:11:07 > 0:11:11- ..but the evidence claims otherwise.
0:11:11 > 0:11:13- Would you return to Wales...
0:11:14 > 0:11:19- ..if you were offered a job that - was particularly challenging?
0:11:19 > 0:11:23- Would you like to be - the First Minister of Wales?
0:11:24 > 0:11:27- I doubt that would ever happen.
0:11:27 > 0:11:33- I've experienced the fascinating - world of politics in London...
0:11:33 > 0:11:37- ..from behind the scenes.
0:11:37 > 0:11:42- I didn't think it would suit me - after working as a broadcaster...
0:11:42 > 0:11:46- ..but this is where - the decisions are made.
0:11:46 > 0:11:49- I want to be - behind that closed door.
0:11:49 > 0:11:55- I'd like to work in another context - with my old boss.
0:11:55 > 0:11:59- Thank you, Guto. - It's a pleasure to see you.
0:11:59 > 0:12:02- The food has been - as tantalizing as our chat.
0:12:03 > 0:12:06- This is an Alabama chilli.
0:12:06 > 0:12:08- It looks very tasty.
0:12:09 > 0:12:12- I'll stick my finger in it.
0:12:13 > 0:12:17- All the best chefs do that. - Of course, they do.
0:12:17 > 0:12:19- HE COUGHS
0:12:20 > 0:12:25- I expected it to be slightly hotter.
0:12:25 > 0:12:30- I don't add a lot of chilli - as Dad doesn't like spicy food.
0:12:30 > 0:12:34- You'll serve it on a bed of rice - and then we'll eat it.
0:12:34 > 0:12:38- Guto Harri, - thank you for preparing it for us.
0:12:38 > 0:12:40- APPLAUSE
0:12:41 > 0:12:46- Dewi Williams and Iona Hughes - invited me to their wedding in 1985.
0:12:46 > 0:12:50- It was the norm - to organize everything yourself.
0:12:51 > 0:12:56- In the next part, I meet a lady who - organizes weddings for couples...
0:12:57 > 0:13:03- ..and a former child star who made - a name for herself in the 1980s.
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0:13:12 > 0:13:17- I now pronounce you - husband and wife.
0:13:19 > 0:13:23- In 1985, Dewi Williams - married Iona Hughes.
0:13:23 > 0:13:26- It was a happy and memorable day...
0:13:26 > 0:13:30- ..as they started - their marital life together.
0:13:31 > 0:13:33- TODAY
0:13:34 > 0:13:38- It's 29 years later, - but I'm not at a wedding...
0:13:38 > 0:13:43- ..although I do have - a beautiful lady on my arm.
0:13:43 > 0:13:48- I'm dressed for the occasion - but I'm not the best man either.
0:13:48 > 0:13:53- I've come to a wedding show - that's been organized by Alaw.
0:13:53 > 0:13:55- What's happening here, Alaw?
0:13:55 > 0:13:57- What's happening here, Alaw?- - This is a wedding fayre.
0:13:58 > 0:14:02- There are 30 stalls present - and it's a hive of activity.
0:14:03 > 0:14:08- We offer live demos - and bouquet demonstrations.
0:14:09 > 0:14:12- You can pick up tips - for the first dance.
0:14:13 > 0:14:15- We also offer advice and guidance.
0:14:16 > 0:14:21- We don't have to organize everything - but can assist for a while.
0:14:21 > 0:14:24- Alternatively, - they can visit the fayre...
0:14:24 > 0:14:28- ..to nurture more confidence.
0:14:28 > 0:14:30- Where did the idea derive from?
0:14:31 > 0:14:32- I moved to Talybont...
0:14:33 > 0:14:38- ..and found that I had to make - whatever I wanted.
0:14:39 > 0:14:41- The idea originated from here.
0:14:41 > 0:14:43- I love organizing.
0:14:44 > 0:14:47- Who wouldn't want - to organize a wedding?
0:14:47 > 0:14:50- There's a shortage of men here.
0:14:50 > 0:14:55- Does this mean that the bride - makes all the decisions?
0:14:55 > 0:14:58- She's the boss before you start!
0:14:58 > 0:15:00- It varies from couple to couple.
0:15:01 > 0:15:05- It's quite an insight - but I won't mention any names!
0:15:05 > 0:15:11- It's lovely for the bride to attend - with her bridesmaids and mother...
0:15:11 > 0:15:13- ..and groom's mother.
0:15:14 > 0:15:19- The groom's mother can feel - left out from the arrangements...
0:15:20 > 0:15:24- ..but this event makes them - feel part of the big day.
0:15:33 > 0:15:36- A hat is essential wedding attire.
0:15:36 > 0:15:38- This is Eleanor.
0:15:39 > 0:15:42- Give us a twirl in your hat.
0:15:43 > 0:15:44- Gorgeous!
0:15:45 > 0:15:47- What do you think of this hat?
0:15:47 > 0:15:50- Let's turn it towards the camera.
0:15:50 > 0:15:53- I feel like the mother-of-the-bride.
0:15:53 > 0:15:56- Where is the bride-to-be?
0:15:57 > 0:16:00- The bride is my daughter, Rachel.
0:16:00 > 0:16:03- Who is Rachel marrying?
0:16:04 > 0:16:07- Rachel is marrying your cameraman!
0:16:07 > 0:16:08- She's marrying Joe.
0:16:08 > 0:16:10- She's marrying Joe.- - Yes, she is.
0:16:10 > 0:16:13- I know Joe well - because we work together.
0:16:13 > 0:16:16- Tell us what he's really like.
0:16:16 > 0:16:21- Joe is lovely. I couldn't ask for a - better person to marry my daughter.
0:16:26 > 0:16:29- Every wedding has a photographer.
0:16:30 > 0:16:34- Keith Morris has taken photos - for over 30 years.
0:16:34 > 0:16:36- What's fashionable these days?
0:16:37 > 0:16:41- People want natural images - that capture the essence of the day.
0:16:41 > 0:16:46- They don't want static poses - but people's actions and reactions.
0:16:46 > 0:16:51- An image of happiness - makes the perfect wedding portrait.
0:16:53 > 0:16:58- What advice do you have for young - couples who are getting married?
0:16:58 > 0:17:01- Don't panic...
0:17:01 > 0:17:05- ..and don't feel - pressured by others.
0:17:06 > 0:17:09- It's your special day, - so do what you want.
0:17:09 > 0:17:14- Having been married - for two and a half years...
0:17:14 > 0:17:18- ..what is the key - to a happy marriage?
0:17:18 > 0:17:23- It's all about teamwork, mixed - with laughter and communication.
0:17:29 > 0:17:31- YESTERDAY
0:17:34 > 0:17:36- APPLAUSE
0:17:43 > 0:17:47- Good evening and welcome - to the Hywel Gwynfryn Show.
0:17:48 > 0:17:50- CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:17:54 > 0:17:55- What are you doing?
0:17:55 > 0:17:57- What are you doing?- - I'm presenting the show.
0:17:57 > 0:18:01- Yes, but that's my job. - What's your name?
0:18:01 > 0:18:06- I'm Rhian Elena and welcome to - Hywel: Yesterday and Today...
0:18:06 > 0:18:09- ..from Llanfihangel Glyn Myfyr.
0:18:09 > 0:18:13- Nothing's changed. - You're still taking over the show.
0:18:13 > 0:18:14- It's been 26 years.
0:18:14 > 0:18:16- It's been 26 years.- - Yes, 26 years.
0:18:16 > 0:18:19- What happened - to that bold little girl?
0:18:19 > 0:18:22- I've performed in concerts.
0:18:22 > 0:18:27- I was offered a place at the Sylvia - Young Theatre School in London...
0:18:28 > 0:18:32- ..but I'm a country girl - so I stayed in the country.
0:18:32 > 0:18:37- I performed in concerts in my teens - and did some radio work.
0:18:37 > 0:18:40- Do you ever wonder - what might have happened...
0:18:40 > 0:18:44- ..if you had gone to the - Sylvia Young Theatre School?
0:18:45 > 0:18:50- Sometimes, I think my life - could have taken a different course.
0:18:50 > 0:18:56- However, I'm glad that I attended - the local secondary school.
0:18:56 > 0:18:59- What happened after you left school?
0:18:59 > 0:19:03- I studied Communications - at Bangor University.
0:19:03 > 0:19:06- Having studied another course...
0:19:06 > 0:19:10- ..I worked for the - Probation Service for seven years.
0:19:10 > 0:19:13- What did the job entail?
0:19:13 > 0:19:17- I monitored offenders - in the community...
0:19:17 > 0:19:20- ..and interviewed prisoners - prior to sentencing.
0:19:21 > 0:19:26- I also proposed suitable sentencing - to the judge...
0:19:26 > 0:19:28- ..for the offenders...
0:19:29 > 0:19:34- ..whether it was community service - or imprisonment.
0:19:35 > 0:19:41- I'd like to remind you - that I'm fortunate to see you alive.
0:19:41 > 0:19:45- I suffered from a dicky ticker - a few years ago.
0:19:46 > 0:19:50- I was experiencing heart problems.
0:19:51 > 0:19:55- Therefore, I had to leave my role - as a probation officer.
0:19:56 > 0:20:01- A little box, - which is the size of a matchbox...
0:20:02 > 0:20:06- ..was placed under the skin - on my chest to monitor my heart.
0:20:06 > 0:20:09- This small device - is keeping you alive.
0:20:10 > 0:20:15- Yes, to a certain degree. - It monitors my heart 24 hours a day.
0:20:15 > 0:20:18- Two wires run from - the box to the heart.
0:20:19 > 0:20:23- If there are too many, - or not enough heartbeats...
0:20:23 > 0:20:26- ..the box paces the heart rate.
0:20:26 > 0:20:31- If it races or stops, - the box will shock the heart.
0:20:31 > 0:20:34- Can you carry on - with every day tasks?
0:20:35 > 0:20:36- Yes, I can.
0:20:36 > 0:20:38- What is your profession today?
0:20:39 > 0:20:43- I've worked as a ward clerk at - Glan Clwyd Hospital for six years.
0:20:43 > 0:20:49- I'm responsible for the ward's - administration work.
0:20:49 > 0:20:54- Do you entertain the patients - with a joke and a song?
0:20:54 > 0:20:58- Not quite, - but humour plays an integral role.
0:20:58 > 0:21:03- You just need to choose - your time and place carefully.
0:21:03 > 0:21:06- We do enjoy ourselves on the ward.
0:21:06 > 0:21:12- Despite not taking - the professional route...
0:21:12 > 0:21:18- ..you adopt a professional attitude - in your performances at concerts.
0:21:18 > 0:21:24- A group of six of us - entertain at local concerts.
0:21:24 > 0:21:28- I'll host the evening - and crack a few jokes.
0:21:29 > 0:21:33- The six of us sing together - and give solo performances.
0:21:33 > 0:21:35- Do you still do impressions?
0:21:35 > 0:21:37- Do you still do impressions?- - I still impersonate people.
0:21:37 > 0:21:40- Do you know Tudur Owen - or Manon Rogers?
0:21:40 > 0:21:42- Hey, Manon Rogers.
0:21:42 > 0:21:44- That's him! That's him! He's off!
0:21:45 > 0:21:48- What does Ifan Gruffydd think?
0:21:50 > 0:21:55- Well, now that's what I call - a chilling tone of voice.
0:21:55 > 0:21:59- It's like a cup of cold water - being poured down my back.
0:22:00 > 0:22:04- I hope she doesn't sing too much - this winter...
0:22:04 > 0:22:07- ..or I'll freeze!
0:22:07 > 0:22:09- Well done.
0:22:10 > 0:22:10- Do you impersonate me?
0:22:10 > 0:22:12- Do you impersonate me?- - No.
0:22:12 > 0:22:13- Behind my back?
0:22:13 > 0:22:14- Behind my back?- - No, I don't.
0:22:15 > 0:22:18- I've tried but your voice is unique.
0:22:18 > 0:22:21- I can't impersonate myself!
0:22:21 > 0:22:25- Hello, how are you, Rhian Elena? - It's great to meet you!
0:22:25 > 0:22:28- It's been a pleasure - to meet you again.
0:22:28 > 0:22:31- You haven't changed at all.
0:22:31 > 0:22:37- It's great to see you enjoying life, - despite your health problems.
0:22:37 > 0:22:40- Thank you for coming here.
0:22:40 > 0:22:46- I hope you continue to make us smile - for many years to come.
0:22:47 > 0:22:53- You're "brilliant-pilliant" as well! - Thank you, Rhian Elena.
0:22:53 > 0:22:55- APPLAUSE
0:22:57 > 0:23:00- Next time, I meet - Dr Meredydd Evans...
0:23:00 > 0:23:04- ..a pioneer of 1970s - light entertainment.
0:23:04 > 0:23:07- I chat to a young, creative - set designer...
0:23:07 > 0:23:12- ..and mark 40 years of Wales's - first radio station.
0:23:27 > 0:23:29- S4C Subtitles by Tinopolis
0:23:29 > 0:23:29- .