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0:00:17 > 0:00:19- In 1975...
0:00:19 > 0:00:24- ..I was honoured to present - my first Can i Gymru competition.
0:00:24 > 0:00:28- The winners were one of the - most popular bands of the 1970s.
0:00:28 > 0:00:32- Bran will perform the third song, - Caledfwlch.
0:00:35 > 0:00:37- # In a shapeless cave
0:00:37 > 0:00:40- # Over in Deiniolen
0:00:40 > 0:00:43- # Sleep silently #
0:00:43 > 0:00:48- The band's guitarist, John Gwyn - was portrayed as a rock 'n' roller.
0:00:49 > 0:00:55- Forty years later, he's swapped - his old rock 'n' roll lifestyle...
0:00:55 > 0:00:59- ..to produce wildlife - and nature documentaries.
0:01:00 > 0:01:04- John, having watched - that archive footage...
0:01:05 > 0:01:10- ..am I right in saying there's - something different about you?
0:01:10 > 0:01:13- Can you explain to us what it is?
0:01:13 > 0:01:16- I didn't even recognise myself!
0:01:16 > 0:01:20- You had long flowing locks, - down to your shoulders.
0:01:21 > 0:01:25- I'm still reminded of my hair - and asked where it's gone!
0:01:25 > 0:01:27- That was the fashion in the 1970s.
0:01:27 > 0:01:31- It was how rock 'n' rollers - were supposed to look.
0:01:31 > 0:01:35- I played in several bands - whilst at university.
0:01:35 > 0:01:41- I performed with Tom Rolland - who studied at Bangor University.
0:01:41 > 0:01:45- Incidentally, I met Gwyndaf...
0:01:46 > 0:01:48- ..Arfon Wyn...
0:01:48 > 0:01:51- ..and Keith Snelgrove - who played the drums...
0:01:51 > 0:01:54- ..and joined the band, Atgyfodiad.
0:01:55 > 0:01:58- I'm old enough to remember the band.
0:01:58 > 0:02:02- As a result, Bran was formed.
0:02:02 > 0:02:07- The original band consisted - of Gwyndaf, Keith and myself.
0:02:08 > 0:02:13- We went to London with the producer, - Eryl Williams and Nic Dafydd...
0:02:13 > 0:02:18- ..to record Tocyn and Gwinant, - which was supposed to be the A-side.
0:02:18 > 0:02:23- Tocyn was meant to be the B-side but - we also had another song, Colled.
0:02:24 > 0:02:28- I've never been able to sing, - especially a song like that!
0:02:29 > 0:02:34- Nest joined us to perform the song - and to complete the band's line-up.
0:02:34 > 0:02:37- Let's discuss the competition - and your entry.
0:02:38 > 0:02:41- The winning song was disqualified.
0:02:42 > 0:02:45- I don't recall the details at all.
0:02:45 > 0:02:51- I don't even remember where the - Can i Gymru competition was held!
0:02:52 > 0:02:58- I recall recording the song - in a house at Maes Coetmor.
0:02:58 > 0:03:03- There were cables everywhere and we - recorded the song in the front room.
0:03:03 > 0:03:06- We posted our entry tape.
0:03:06 > 0:03:11- I recall winning the competition - and going to Killarney...
0:03:11 > 0:03:15- ..where we won - at the Pan Celtic Festival.
0:03:15 > 0:03:18- Not only did we win Can i Gymru...
0:03:19 > 0:03:22- ..but we also won against Clannad - at the Pan Celtic.
0:03:22 > 0:03:23- Did you really?
0:03:23 > 0:03:24- Did you really?- - Yes.
0:03:25 > 0:03:29- What happened to you - in the decade following 1975?
0:03:29 > 0:03:33- At that time, - I was at university in Liverpool.
0:03:33 > 0:03:35- I then got a job in Cardiff...
0:03:36 > 0:03:40- ..in the Pathology Department - at the Heath Hospital.
0:03:40 > 0:03:43- Bran was still performing.
0:03:43 > 0:03:46- When I was in Cardiff...
0:03:46 > 0:03:50- ..and because I was known - for being in the band...
0:03:50 > 0:03:54- ..I helped out with scientific - and nature items...
0:03:54 > 0:03:59- ..on children's programmes like Ser - due to my background in Zoology.
0:04:00 > 0:04:05- Despite having studied - Zoology and Pathology...
0:04:05 > 0:04:08- ..you left that particular field...
0:04:08 > 0:04:11- ..and headed to Newcastle.
0:04:11 > 0:04:15- Tyne Tees was advertising - for a researcher on The Tube.
0:04:16 > 0:04:21- I applied for the position - and was given a six week contract.
0:04:21 > 0:04:25- I stayed in Newcastle for 20 years.
0:04:25 > 0:04:27- You became the boss of The Tube.
0:04:27 > 0:04:31- You became the boss of The Tube.- - Yes, I was a producer.
0:04:31 > 0:04:34- It was something - completely different.
0:04:34 > 0:04:40- Following 20 years on The Tube, - you took a very different direction.
0:04:40 > 0:04:43- I wanted to make documentaries.
0:04:43 > 0:04:49- Unfortunately, they thought I wasn't - capable of producing documentaries.
0:04:49 > 0:04:55- However, Endaf Emlyn - is a very close friend of mine.
0:04:56 > 0:04:59- I recall chatting to him - in the early days.
0:04:59 > 0:05:02- I remember him telling me - many years ago...
0:05:03 > 0:05:08- ..that momentum is important, - especially in the media.
0:05:08 > 0:05:12- You should always move forward - and experience new ventures.
0:05:13 > 0:05:16- This is true of life in general.
0:05:16 > 0:05:19- You shouldn't sit still.
0:05:19 > 0:05:23- Even today, I never work on - the same series with Iolo.
0:05:24 > 0:05:29- How did you establish a working - relationship with Iolo Williams?
0:05:29 > 0:05:32- Iolo had worked as a presenter...
0:05:32 > 0:05:37- ..on programmes such as - Visions of Snowdonia and Birdman.
0:05:38 > 0:05:40- The BBC wanted to film a series...
0:05:40 > 0:05:44- ..and develop Iolo - as an English language presenter.
0:05:44 > 0:05:49- They asked me to direct and produce - the series and the rest is history.
0:05:50 > 0:05:54- You've travelled the world - to study wildlife.
0:05:55 > 0:05:57- In some series...
0:05:57 > 0:06:03- ..you highlighted the importance - of appreciating nature in Wales.
0:06:03 > 0:06:07- There is a danger of us - not appreciating...
0:06:07 > 0:06:10- ..what we've got - right under our noses.
0:06:11 > 0:06:16- It's important to be aware - of what's on your doorstep.
0:06:17 > 0:06:19- Even in the city...
0:06:19 > 0:06:24- ..I could show you the wildlife - in the canal outside the office.
0:06:24 > 0:06:29- There are otters residing - near the Millennium Stadium.
0:06:29 > 0:06:31- Wildlife is all around us.
0:06:33 > 0:06:37- To the north, west and south, - Wales is surrounded by sea.
0:06:39 > 0:06:43- I'm on a sea journey around Wales.
0:06:44 > 0:06:48- In this episode, I'll travel from - Lleyn Peninsula to Cardigan Bay.
0:06:49 > 0:06:51- I'll meet people who work at sea.
0:06:51 > 0:06:54- Is lobster the best thing to catch?
0:06:54 > 0:06:57- All of it, Iolo. - We couldn't do without any of it.
0:06:58 > 0:07:01- Those with a passion for the sea.
0:07:01 > 0:07:06- I spent hours looking out to sea - and longed to be involved.
0:07:06 > 0:07:12- I'm discovering the incredible and - amazing wildlife living in the sea.
0:07:19 > 0:07:24- Iolo strikes me as a presenter - who's always up for an adventure.
0:07:24 > 0:07:30- He swims underwater, flies, - scales mountains and climbs trees.
0:07:30 > 0:07:35- This must work in your favour - as a producer.
0:07:35 > 0:07:38- He's certainly a very brave person.
0:07:38 > 0:07:42- However, we have to consider...
0:07:43 > 0:07:47- ..our health and safety - responsibilities.
0:07:47 > 0:07:52- When climbing, - we have to use the correct ropes.
0:07:52 > 0:07:55- When underground, - we have experts to look after us.
0:07:56 > 0:08:02- If we're diving, we have - an expert that films underwater.
0:08:02 > 0:08:07- I might ask Iolo to do something, - but he will decide if he does it.
0:08:08 > 0:08:13- You've filmed all over Wales, - Britain, Europe and the world...
0:08:13 > 0:08:19- ..but is there one particular place - that you would like to visit?
0:08:19 > 0:08:22- What a question!
0:08:22 > 0:08:25- It's a great question.
0:08:26 > 0:08:31- Maybe it's more to do with the - animals that we haven't spotted...
0:08:31 > 0:08:34- ..as opposed to the country itself.
0:08:34 > 0:08:40- Many years ago, we failed to spot - a particular tiger in India...
0:08:40 > 0:08:44- ..so that's one thing - that I'd like to accomplish.
0:08:45 > 0:08:48- There are other attractions - I'd like to see...
0:08:48 > 0:08:53- ..such as the orca killer whales.
0:08:53 > 0:08:56- It's a tough question to answer.
0:08:57 > 0:09:01- We've been fortunate - to travel and film a lot.
0:09:01 > 0:09:04- Speaking of momentum...
0:09:04 > 0:09:08- ..are you looking at - new ideas with Iolo?
0:09:08 > 0:09:11- Are you going on your travels again?
0:09:11 > 0:09:17- We're pitching a series to the BBC - that looks at the sea around Wales.
0:09:17 > 0:09:22- We're preparing a documentary based - on wildlife at Christmas with Iolo.
0:09:24 > 0:09:29- There are a few other projects - about Wales's natural hidden gems.
0:09:29 > 0:09:33- We hope to develop these.
0:09:33 > 0:09:37- We've got nothing in the pipeline - at the moment.
0:09:37 > 0:09:41- We're simply brainstorming ideas.
0:09:41 > 0:09:44- One more question. - Do you still have the guitar?
0:09:45 > 0:09:48- No, I don't. I've sold it.
0:09:49 > 0:09:54- Your record is for sale on eBay...
0:09:54 > 0:09:58- ..and it's worth 350.
0:09:58 > 0:10:02- I believe it is - but I don't have a copy!
0:10:02 > 0:10:06- I have a sleeve without a record.
0:10:06 > 0:10:09- When is your birthday?
0:10:09 > 0:10:11- It's in February.
0:10:11 > 0:10:14- You'll have to wait until next year!
0:10:14 > 0:10:20- Maybe a viewer will sell their - copy to you for a special price!
0:10:20 > 0:10:25- It's been great chatting to you - and all the best for the future.
0:10:26 > 0:10:29- # Come together
0:10:29 > 0:10:33- # Come together #
0:11:01 > 0:11:03- APPLAUSE
0:11:04 > 0:11:06- In part two...
0:11:06 > 0:11:12- ..I meet an Eighties pop sensation - who now works in the arts.
0:11:12 > 0:11:17- I also reunite with old friend who's - carved a name for himself in stone.
0:11:18 > 0:11:19- Don't go far!
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0:11:27 > 0:11:29- # Now is the time #
0:11:29 > 0:11:33- Elen ap Robert was one of the - most popular singers of the 1980s.
0:11:34 > 0:11:37- Today, she's hung up - her glamorous gowns...
0:11:38 > 0:11:44- ..and is responsible for an - exciting project in the arts world.
0:11:45 > 0:11:47- TODAY
0:11:51 > 0:11:54- What has happened - since your days as a singer...
0:11:55 > 0:12:00- ..and you standing here - in a hard hat on a building site?
0:12:00 > 0:12:06- A lot has happened since then - and many years have flown by.
0:12:06 > 0:12:11- I was a professional singer with - Glyndebourne and other companies.
0:12:12 > 0:12:15- I also trained as a music therapist.
0:12:15 > 0:12:20- I worked with autistic children and - those with learning disabilities...
0:12:21 > 0:12:23- ..for many years.
0:12:24 > 0:12:28- When Galeri, Caernarfon - came into existence...
0:12:29 > 0:12:33- ..I was an artistic director there - for seven years...
0:12:34 > 0:12:37- ..prior to coming to Pontio - as an artistic director.
0:12:38 > 0:12:40- There's quite a challenge - ahead of you.
0:12:41 > 0:12:46- The Pontio project bridges - two or more different projects.
0:12:46 > 0:12:49- What is the significance of Pontio?
0:12:50 > 0:12:52- Pontio bridges many projects.
0:12:52 > 0:12:58- The College on the Hill in Bangor - overlooks the city.
0:12:58 > 0:13:03- This building will actually bridge - the landscape...
0:13:03 > 0:13:08- ..from the Memorial Arch - to the main Arts building.
0:13:08 > 0:13:14- This bridge is developing daily - in front of our eyes at Bangor.
0:13:14 > 0:13:19- It's also a psychological bridge - between academic life...
0:13:19 > 0:13:24- ..and the everyday life - of Bangor's residents.
0:13:24 > 0:13:26- The centre is more than a theatre.
0:13:26 > 0:13:29- It's a centre for the arts - and innovation.
0:13:30 > 0:13:35- This blend of various disciplines - is incredibly important.
0:13:35 > 0:13:41- It looks like a shell at the moment - but beneath us is the theatre.
0:13:41 > 0:13:46- It's the Bryn Terfel Theatre - and we're on the first balcony.
0:13:46 > 0:13:50- Directly in front of us - is where the stage could be set-up.
0:13:51 > 0:13:55- The stage can be positioned - in various configurations.
0:13:55 > 0:14:00- It can be installed sideways, - in a circle or as a cabaret style.
0:14:00 > 0:14:03- It offers many creative options.
0:14:03 > 0:14:05- How many people will it accommodate?
0:14:05 > 0:14:07- How many people will it accommodate?- - It depends on the set-up.
0:14:07 > 0:14:11- If you look from this point - towards the stage...
0:14:11 > 0:14:15- ..the maximum capacity is 480, - therefore it's an ample theatre.
0:14:16 > 0:14:21- The stage in our multi-purpose - and flexible theatre and studio...
0:14:21 > 0:14:25- ..need innovative facilities - to allow us break new ground.
0:14:27 > 0:14:32- We're stood outside the cinema - which will hold 200 people.
0:14:32 > 0:14:38- It will be an important facility to - bring the whole community together.
0:14:38 > 0:14:43- Everyone from across the spectrum - wants to see a cinema in Bangor.
0:14:44 > 0:14:48- When will the Pontio building open?
0:14:48 > 0:14:52- It's a race against time - as the weather hasn't been great.
0:14:53 > 0:14:58- However, the Theatr Genedlaethol's - stage adaptation of Chwalfa...
0:14:58 > 0:15:03- ..by T Rowland Hughes - will be staged on 17 September.
0:15:03 > 0:15:09- Will you be taking to the stage - in your blue gown...
0:15:09 > 0:15:12- ..without a hard hat, - ready to perform again?
0:15:13 > 0:15:16- I'll have to dust my gown off!
0:15:16 > 0:15:20- Good luck with this project. - The community is very excited.
0:15:21 > 0:15:26- An important message - lies behind this project.
0:15:26 > 0:15:31- We want to highlight that the Pontio - centre is a place for the community.
0:15:32 > 0:15:35- # Come to sing
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0:15:40 > 0:15:42- APPLAUSE
0:15:44 > 0:15:46- YESTERDAY
0:15:52 > 0:15:57- Over the years, I've been blessed - to meet many talented craftsmen...
0:15:58 > 0:16:02- ..and fortunate to be - taught by a few of them.
0:16:03 > 0:16:10- I'll never forget a carving lesson - by Ieuan Rees in 1986.
0:16:10 > 0:16:14- Do you sometimes chisel upwards...
0:16:14 > 0:16:17- ..or do you always chisel downwards?
0:16:17 > 0:16:21- I've seen you stand up straight - and tap from below.
0:16:21 > 0:16:24- You must remember one thing, Hywel.
0:16:24 > 0:16:27- Your body is different to mine.
0:16:27 > 0:16:32- If your body isn't comfortable, - you're doing something wrong.
0:16:32 > 0:16:37- Experiment with different positions - until you feel comfortable.
0:16:37 > 0:16:43- It doesn't matter at what angle you - hit it, your body must feel relaxed.
0:16:43 > 0:16:47- At least you identified - that something was wrong.
0:16:48 > 0:16:51- Some former students - were unable to do this.
0:16:52 > 0:16:56- You sensed something wasn't right - which is promising.
0:16:56 > 0:16:57- It's a great feeling.
0:16:57 > 0:16:59- It's a great feeling.- - Yes, it is.
0:16:59 > 0:17:02- Do you think we make - a good double-act?
0:17:03 > 0:17:05- Let's have another go.
0:17:07 > 0:17:11- It's about time we meet again - after all these years, Ieuan.
0:17:12 > 0:17:14- It's great to see you again.
0:17:14 > 0:17:17- What have you been doing - over the years?
0:17:17 > 0:17:22- I'm still grafting - as I can't afford to retire.
0:17:22 > 0:17:25- However, it keeps my mind active.
0:17:26 > 0:17:29- Therefore, - I'm glad that I have to work.
0:17:30 > 0:17:32- Have the years been kind to you?
0:17:32 > 0:17:34- Have the years been kind to you?- - Yes, on the whole.
0:17:35 > 0:17:38- However, in 1988, - my life changed completely.
0:17:39 > 0:17:44- My wife sadly passed away - following a three-week illness.
0:17:44 > 0:17:46- I had two young daughters.
0:17:46 > 0:17:50- Angharad was six years old - and Vicky or Victoria was 13.
0:17:51 > 0:17:54- I was their mother and father - for nearly eight years.
0:17:55 > 0:17:57- Until that point...
0:17:57 > 0:18:00- ..I mostly did written - calligraphy work...
0:18:01 > 0:18:03- ..and some stonemasonry work.
0:18:03 > 0:18:09- Calligraphy demands concentration - and a constant rhythm.
0:18:10 > 0:18:15- However, I had to make food, shop, - clean and do the school-run.
0:18:15 > 0:18:19- It was impossible to be - a mother and father...
0:18:19 > 0:18:22- ..and have time to do calligraphy.
0:18:23 > 0:18:27- Thankfully, God lent a helping hand.
0:18:27 > 0:18:31- The calligraphy work - grinded to a halt...
0:18:32 > 0:18:36- ..and I was commissioned - to do more stonemasonry.
0:18:36 > 0:18:40- Stonemasonry doesn't require - continual concentration.
0:18:40 > 0:18:45- I could stop and start as I wished - which suited my lifestyle.
0:18:48 > 0:18:52- Ieuan's work - has varied over the years.
0:18:52 > 0:18:56- Examples of his work can be seen - all over Wales.
0:18:58 > 0:19:00- We've come to Betws Park.
0:19:01 > 0:19:03- I've brought you here, Hywel...
0:19:04 > 0:19:07- ..as my work is displayed - all over the country...
0:19:07 > 0:19:12- ..but an artist's work - is rarely displayed close to home.
0:19:13 > 0:19:18- I feel honoured that the locals - commissioned this piece.
0:19:20 > 0:19:25- This is a local Blue Pennant Stone - from the Pontardawe area.
0:19:25 > 0:19:29- The Welsh saying, Y Byd a'r Betws - is very famous...
0:19:29 > 0:19:34- ..so it was apt that - I use it for this design.
0:19:34 > 0:19:36- I immediately liked the idea.
0:19:37 > 0:19:39- This is a memorial stone.
0:19:39 > 0:19:44- If you look behind you, - you'll see the purpose of the stone.
0:19:44 > 0:19:48- "This peaceful garden - is a living tribute...
0:19:48 > 0:19:54- "..to those who lost their lives - in wars, mining accidents...
0:19:54 > 0:19:57- "..and other tragic incidents."
0:19:57 > 0:20:01- "Their memory is our heritage."
0:20:01 > 0:20:03- It's a wonderful tribute.
0:20:03 > 0:20:06- This work is also your design.
0:20:07 > 0:20:11- When working on memorials - similar to this one...
0:20:12 > 0:20:17- ..do you feel for those - who lost their lives at war?
0:20:18 > 0:20:22- It's essential that - I show respect to the work.
0:20:22 > 0:20:27- When I'm working on a piece, - I always think of its purpose...
0:20:27 > 0:20:29- ..and why it's being made.
0:20:33 > 0:20:36- One particular commission - is close to Ieuan's heart.
0:20:37 > 0:20:39- This piece of work - deeply affected him.
0:20:40 > 0:20:43- It's a memorial for - Mandy Power and her family...
0:20:43 > 0:20:48- ..who were horrifically murdered - in Clydach in the Swansea Valley.
0:20:51 > 0:20:55- Hywel, - I've brought you to Clydach...
0:20:56 > 0:21:01- ..to see the most challenging piece - that I've ever had to complete.
0:21:01 > 0:21:07- Maybe you'll remember the murder - of four members of one family...
0:21:07 > 0:21:09- ..here in Clydach.
0:21:09 > 0:21:13- It's a complicated story - that I won't divulge.
0:21:14 > 0:21:18- I struggled with this piece - as I wanted to do them justice.
0:21:18 > 0:21:23- A grandmother, mother - and two little girls...
0:21:23 > 0:21:25- ..were tragically murdered.
0:21:26 > 0:21:30- I wanted to do them justice - as well as the entire family.
0:21:30 > 0:21:35- I didn't want it to resemble - a gravestone...
0:21:35 > 0:21:39- ..inscribed with - a cold list of names.
0:21:39 > 0:21:45- I had to portray the warmth - and love of the family...
0:21:45 > 0:21:47- ..within the design.
0:21:48 > 0:21:51- This was my greatest challenge.
0:21:51 > 0:21:56- You can decide if I succeeded - to portray this within the piece.
0:21:56 > 0:21:59- Considering the circumstances...
0:21:59 > 0:22:04- ..I tried to make the design - a comforting one for the family.
0:22:05 > 0:22:09- By looking at this memorial...
0:22:09 > 0:22:13- ..we can see the names - of Doris, Emily, Mandy and Katie.
0:22:14 > 0:22:19- The flowers that encompass the names - represent their eternal love.
0:22:19 > 0:22:24- I hope this love is conveyed - to those who visit the memorial.
0:22:31 > 0:22:34- You've made several memorials...
0:22:34 > 0:22:38- ..to commemorate people, - buildings and establishments.
0:22:38 > 0:22:41- How would you like to be remembered?
0:22:41 > 0:22:46- That's an interesting question. - Let me think about it.
0:22:46 > 0:22:51- I stayed at the home of John Petts - who was a stained-glass artist.
0:22:51 > 0:22:54- There was a small booklet.
0:22:54 > 0:22:58- It was around an eighth of an inch - in thickness.
0:22:58 > 0:23:04- It was written in English - and called Prayers of Famous People.
0:23:04 > 0:23:09- Inside the book, - I found the prayer of John Wesley.
0:23:09 > 0:23:12- "Lord, - let me not live to be useless!"
0:23:13 > 0:23:17- I'd like to think my life - has been meaningful.
0:23:17 > 0:23:20- This is how - I'd like to be remembered.
0:23:20 > 0:23:23- Next week, I'll meet - stars of the musical world.
0:23:24 > 0:23:28- Sioned Williams is a famous - harpist in London and beyond.
0:23:28 > 0:23:31- The musical giant, Bryn Terfel...
0:23:31 > 0:23:35- ..also discusses - his incredible 30-year career.
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