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0:00:04 > 0:00:05- The city of Swansea.
0:00:05 > 0:00:10- It was home to one of Wales's most - influential families of the 1800s.
0:00:10 > 0:00:16- The Dillwyn Llewelyns pioneered - in industry, politics and science.
0:00:16 > 0:00:19- Amy Dillwyn was one of - the family's high achievers.
0:00:20 > 0:00:25- The giddy debutante grew into - a successful British industrialist.
0:00:25 > 0:00:29- When I inherited - the Llansamlet Spelter Works...
0:00:29 > 0:00:32- ..they were 100,000 in debt.
0:00:32 > 0:00:35- She overcame - 19th century constraints...
0:00:36 > 0:00:38- ..and challenged conventions.
0:00:39 > 0:00:42- Having studied - the novels of that era...
0:00:42 > 0:00:47- ..few speak as openly about feelings - between women as she did.
0:00:47 > 0:00:51- She didn't care about - other people's opinions of her.
0:00:51 > 0:00:54- "Will anyone have a cigar?" - she'd say.
0:00:55 > 0:00:57- The women would cringe...
0:00:57 > 0:01:02- ..as the notion of a woman - smoking a cigar was despicable.
0:01:17 > 0:01:20- Hendrefoilan House in Swansea...
0:01:20 > 0:01:24- ..was home to Amy Dillwyn - for the first 40 years of her life.
0:01:24 > 0:01:29- She grew up here and witnessed - her father's political affairs.
0:01:29 > 0:01:34- She nursed her terminally-ill mother - and mourned her passing.
0:01:34 > 0:01:36- This was Amy's world.
0:01:36 > 0:01:40- However, she had to leave - because she was a woman.
0:01:43 > 0:01:46- Amy's grandfather - was Lewis Weston Dillwyn.
0:01:47 > 0:01:52- The industrialist owned the Cambrian - Pottery and lived at Sketty Hall.
0:01:52 > 0:01:57- He fathered John Dillwyn Llewelyn, - the botanist and photographer...
0:01:58 > 0:02:01- ..and Lewis Llewelyn Dillwyn, - Amy's father...
0:02:01 > 0:02:05- ..an industrialist - and Member of Parliament.
0:02:08 > 0:02:13- Amy Dillwyn is a remarkable figure - in the history of Welsh women...
0:02:13 > 0:02:16- ..but has gained little recognition.
0:02:16 > 0:02:20- Professor Prys Morgan - is fascinated by her.
0:02:20 > 0:02:23- His Bishopston home - is steeped in her legacy.
0:02:24 > 0:02:26- It's also a former haunt of Amy's.
0:02:27 > 0:02:29- Hello.
0:02:29 > 0:02:31- Hello.- - Come in. Welcome to you.
0:02:35 > 0:02:39- What is the connection - between this house and Amy?
0:02:39 > 0:02:45- Amy was close friends with - the three sisters who lived here.
0:02:45 > 0:02:47- They were all spinsters.
0:02:48 > 0:02:53- The ladies organized parties - where they would play card games.
0:02:53 > 0:02:58- This is the very table where Amy - and the three sisters played bridge.
0:02:58 > 0:03:03- The maid would greet her - in the hallway.
0:03:03 > 0:03:05- The maid would ask...
0:03:05 > 0:03:09- .."Miss Dillwyn, - don't you want to go upstairs...
0:03:09 > 0:03:13- "..to take your shoes off - and tidy yourself?"
0:03:13 > 0:03:16- Amy would reply, - "No, of course I don't."
0:03:16 > 0:03:21- She would simply - fling her shoes off...
0:03:21 > 0:03:23- ..into the corner of the hallway.
0:03:23 > 0:03:26- Amy never used the mirror.
0:03:27 > 0:03:30- "I don't need a mirror," - she'd exclaim.
0:03:30 > 0:03:36- She'd run her fingers through her - hair and walk into the parlour.
0:03:39 > 0:03:43- Amy and her siblings - were raised in a lap of luxury.
0:03:43 > 0:03:49- Amy's father owned the Llansamlet - Spelter Works and was a Liberal MP.
0:03:49 > 0:03:54- Her mother, Elizabeth de la Beche, - was from the Penllergaer Estate.
0:03:54 > 0:04:00- She designed the company's Etruscan - ware pottery from local red clay.
0:04:05 > 0:04:09- Amy's story has enchanted - the actress, Debra John.
0:04:09 > 0:04:13- She enjoys introducing her - to local societies and schools.
0:04:14 > 0:04:18- I've been playing the role - of Amy Dillwyn for five years.
0:04:18 > 0:04:24- There's something special about her - and she stands out from the crowd.
0:04:24 > 0:04:28- Amy contributed immensely - to the city of Swansea...
0:04:29 > 0:04:32- ..and is an inspiration to women.
0:04:34 > 0:04:37- From an early age, Amy was a tomboy.
0:04:37 > 0:04:41- She enjoyed climbing trees - with her brother, Harry...
0:04:42 > 0:04:43- ..and playing in the mud.
0:04:44 > 0:04:47- She was also interested in nature.
0:04:47 > 0:04:52- While exploring the countryside - with her brother, Harry...
0:04:52 > 0:04:54- ..Amy smoked her first cigarette.
0:04:55 > 0:04:58- This habit became part - of her eccentric image.
0:04:58 > 0:05:02- She was forced to leave - her childhood in Swansea...
0:05:02 > 0:05:06- ..and was sent to - a London school for girls...
0:05:06 > 0:05:09- ..to become a debutante - and find a husband.
0:05:14 > 0:05:20- Amy wrote about the excitement - of visiting St James's Palace.
0:05:20 > 0:05:22- The maids admired her hair.
0:05:22 > 0:05:26- "It had been beautifully done - by Roland," she said.
0:05:26 > 0:05:29- She didn't wear her glasses either.
0:05:29 > 0:05:34- She was one of 250 girls who flocked - to the ball in search of a husband.
0:05:36 > 0:05:38- "There was a sea of ladies...
0:05:38 > 0:05:42- "..in magnificent dresses - and jewellery sitting down...
0:05:42 > 0:05:48- "..and a surf of gentlemen in - handsome uniforms standing around."
0:05:49 > 0:05:52- In the splendour of the ball...
0:05:52 > 0:05:57- ..Amy met a childhood friend, - Llewellyn Thomas from Llwynmadog.
0:05:57 > 0:06:00- They spent a lot of time together.
0:06:00 > 0:06:05- A few months later, when Amy - turned 18, she agreed to marry him.
0:06:06 > 0:06:08- Llewellyn was a family friend.
0:06:08 > 0:06:13- Amy and Llewellyn were picked out - as children of being a likely match.
0:06:14 > 0:06:17- The emotions seemed genuine - on Llewellyn's side...
0:06:18 > 0:06:22- ..but she was extremely - distressed in secret...
0:06:22 > 0:06:25- ..about the pending marriage.
0:06:26 > 0:06:30- She was upset about leaving home, - her beloved Hendrefoilan.
0:06:31 > 0:06:34- A few months later, - Amy suffered a blow...
0:06:34 > 0:06:38- ..when Llewellyn suddenly died - from smallpox in Paris.
0:06:38 > 0:06:40- The day before the funeral...
0:06:41 > 0:06:46- ..Amy collected snowdrops for her - father to lay on the coffin.
0:06:48 > 0:06:53- Historians have always claimed that - Amy was heartbroken after her loss.
0:06:53 > 0:06:57- However, new research - from Swansea University...
0:06:57 > 0:07:02- ..makes me question Amy's - state of mind and her sexuality.
0:07:02 > 0:07:05- It is not a story - that has been told before...
0:07:05 > 0:07:07- ..but in her diaries...
0:07:08 > 0:07:13- ..she admits how much it cost her - to agree to the marriage.
0:07:14 > 0:07:20- "Last night, I read all the letters - I received from Llewellyn Thomas...
0:07:20 > 0:07:22- "..and then burnt them.
0:07:22 > 0:07:26- "It was sad and frightening - to read the letters...
0:07:26 > 0:07:28- "..and see how much...
0:07:28 > 0:07:32- "..and how true a love was centred - on so unworthy focus as myself.
0:07:33 > 0:07:38- "If he had but known the doubts and - struggles of my mind at that time.
0:07:39 > 0:07:44- "My miserable state of doubting what - course to pursue had lasted longer.
0:07:44 > 0:07:46- "I must have gone mad.
0:07:47 > 0:07:49- "It's horrible to think of even now.
0:07:50 > 0:07:52- "Poor Llewellyn!
0:07:53 > 0:07:57- "I wonder if he will ever know - what injustice I did him."
0:07:57 > 0:08:03- It's difficult to interpret - Amy's thoughts on marriage.
0:08:04 > 0:08:08- She says, "If I have to be - a lone woman, so be it."
0:08:08 > 0:08:12- She was very jealous - of her younger sister.
0:08:12 > 0:08:17- When Essie got married, - Amy said, "Why isn't my turn?"
0:08:17 > 0:08:21- "Why don't I deserve to love - or to be loved?"
0:08:21 > 0:08:27- Amy's life changed overnight - when her mother died in late 1866.
0:08:27 > 0:08:30- She was expected to run the home...
0:08:30 > 0:08:34- ..and live her life around - her father's political work.
0:08:34 > 0:08:37- She was now - the mistress of Hendrefoilan.
0:08:38 > 0:08:41- However, Amy felt restless.
0:08:41 > 0:08:46- She wanted to make her mark - like some other ladies of her day.
0:08:46 > 0:08:50- She did something different - and wrote a novel.
0:08:51 > 0:08:54- Prior to publishing novels...
0:08:54 > 0:08:59- ..Amy had looked after - her father's home for over a decade.
0:08:59 > 0:09:03- She fell into depression - and suffered a mental decline.
0:09:04 > 0:09:05- She states in her diaries...
0:09:06 > 0:09:10- ..that she didn't have - a strong desire to be an author...
0:09:10 > 0:09:14- ..but used writing as her only means - of escapism.
0:09:15 > 0:09:19- It was an act of retaliation - against the role of a woman.
0:09:20 > 0:09:24- Her novels also enabled her to - discuss her emotions and sexuality.
0:09:25 > 0:09:27- Amy was 30 years old...
0:09:27 > 0:09:31- ..and was traditionally - deemed too old for marriage.
0:09:31 > 0:09:34- Henry Hussey Vivian - came to the house.
0:09:34 > 0:09:36- He said quite pointedly...
0:09:36 > 0:09:41- .."A woman who doesn't marry goes - contrary to the laws of the world."
0:09:41 > 0:09:45- Well, I beg to differ, - Mr Henry Hussey Vivian.
0:09:45 > 0:09:47- I may be on the shelf...
0:09:47 > 0:09:51- ..but all the best China - stays on the shelf.
0:09:51 > 0:09:55- Mugs get taken down first.
0:09:55 > 0:09:58- The real love of her life - was Olive Talbot.
0:09:59 > 0:10:03- Her diaries show that Amy - loved Olive from the age of 15.
0:10:03 > 0:10:06- This was the passion of her life.
0:10:07 > 0:10:12- By 1872, she's describing Olive - in her diaries as a her wife.
0:10:16 > 0:10:19- "I'm a fool - to care as I do for Olive.
0:10:20 > 0:10:22- "My own belief - is that I'm half a man.
0:10:23 > 0:10:27- "The male half of my nature - fell in love with her years ago...
0:10:27 > 0:10:29- "..and can't fall out of it.
0:10:29 > 0:10:34- "I care for her romantically, - passionately, foolishly...
0:10:34 > 0:10:38- "..and try as I may, - I cannot get over it.
0:10:38 > 0:10:43- "I wish I could, - for it's more pain than pleasure."
0:10:44 > 0:10:49- Did women from this period have - to conceal these type of emotions?
0:10:50 > 0:10:55- It's very difficult for us to know - how they perceived lesbianism...
0:10:55 > 0:10:59- ..because male homosexuality - was illegal.
0:10:59 > 0:11:03- They didn't acknowledge - the existence of homosexual women.
0:11:03 > 0:11:07- Queen Victoria - refused to accept the notion of it.
0:11:07 > 0:11:10- It didn't exist - and it didn't have a title.
0:11:10 > 0:11:16- The Ladies of Llangollen were seen - as close friends and this was fine.
0:11:16 > 0:11:18- What happened between Amy and Olive?
0:11:18 > 0:11:22- What happened between Amy and Olive?- - We don't know what happened.
0:11:22 > 0:11:28- We know that this love affair, the - one-sided, unrequited love affair...
0:11:28 > 0:11:32- ..is written and rewritten - in her novels in disguise...
0:11:32 > 0:11:37- ..of a man loving an out-of-reach - woman or between two women.
0:11:37 > 0:11:41- Having studied - the novels of that era...
0:11:42 > 0:11:48- ..few speak as openly about feelings - between women as she did.
0:11:48 > 0:11:52- Her novels certainly change - our conventional notion...
0:11:52 > 0:11:58- ..of the domestic lives - among Victorian ladies.
0:11:59 > 0:12:01- She was unconventional, unique...
0:12:02 > 0:12:06- ..and challenged - 19th century conventions.
0:12:06 > 0:12:12- Amy would walk into this room - to play cards with the ladies...
0:12:12 > 0:12:16- ..and would come through the door - saying...
0:12:16 > 0:12:18- .."Will anyone have a cigar?"
0:12:19 > 0:12:23- The ladies would cringe - and sink into their shawls...
0:12:24 > 0:12:28- ..as the notion of ladies - smoking a cigar was despicable.
0:12:28 > 0:12:33- Emma Morgan was the oldest sister - and five years older than Amy.
0:12:33 > 0:12:38- She'd say, "I will not be put out - of continence by you, Amy Dillwyn."
0:12:38 > 0:12:41- "I will have a cigar, so there!"
0:12:42 > 0:12:45- Amy was quite practical.
0:12:45 > 0:12:50- She looked like a man - and wore masculine clothing.
0:12:52 > 0:12:56- There's a lovely story - about her father's funeral.
0:12:56 > 0:13:01- Amy wore a heliotrope skirt - with a yellow rose in the middle.
0:13:01 > 0:13:05- She also donned a hat - decorated with flowers.
0:13:05 > 0:13:08- She was simply making a statement.
0:13:12 > 0:13:18- Amy's outfit branded her - as unusual and unconventional.
0:13:18 > 0:13:23- Some would even say odd, - but she was an audacious character.
0:13:24 > 0:13:28- Little did Amy know - that when she buried her father...
0:13:28 > 0:13:32- ..she would face - her biggest challenge yet...
0:13:32 > 0:13:35- ..and would be pushed to her limits.
0:13:35 > 0:13:39- In the coming years, - Amy would prove to the world...
0:13:39 > 0:13:43- ..that she could match any man - in the world of industry.
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0:13:57 > 0:14:01- Following a privileged upbringing - at Hendrefoilan...
0:14:01 > 0:14:06- ..Amy Dillwyn's life changed - overnight after her father's death.
0:14:07 > 0:14:10- She couldn't stay - at her family home.
0:14:10 > 0:14:16- It was left to a male relative, - so Amy had to move into lodgings.
0:14:16 > 0:14:19- Lewis Llewellyn Dillwyn - stated in his will...
0:14:19 > 0:14:24- ..that his daughter would inherit - Llansamlet Spelter Works.
0:14:24 > 0:14:26- I know what you're thinking.
0:14:26 > 0:14:30- "I didn't know your father - had a business, Amy."
0:14:30 > 0:14:33- I don't think he did either.
0:14:33 > 0:14:36- When I inherited - the Llansamlet Spelter Works...
0:14:36 > 0:14:39- ..they were 100,000 in debt.
0:14:40 > 0:14:44- That debt equated to 10 million - in today's terms.
0:14:44 > 0:14:48- Her father's assets - weren't going to clear it.
0:14:48 > 0:14:51- How did the business - fall into arrears?
0:14:51 > 0:14:57- There was a massive rise - in global investment.
0:14:57 > 0:15:02- This instigated a huge growth - in the 1880s.
0:15:02 > 0:15:07- By 1890, Argentina failed to pay - its debts to this country...
0:15:07 > 0:15:09- ..therefore the banks crashed.
0:15:09 > 0:15:13- It's a similar scenario - to our recent recession.
0:15:13 > 0:15:17- It was a severe blow for Swansea...
0:15:17 > 0:15:20- ..and it created - problems for the works.
0:15:20 > 0:15:25- Everyone expected Amy to go bankrupt - after her father's death.
0:15:25 > 0:15:29- She couldn't get any money - from the estate...
0:15:29 > 0:15:31- ..until the creditors were paid.
0:15:31 > 0:15:34- Amy refused to give up so easily...
0:15:34 > 0:15:38- ..and decided - to run the business herself.
0:15:42 > 0:15:46- Selling the contents of - Hendrefoilan House was difficult.
0:15:47 > 0:15:49- An auction across three days.
0:15:50 > 0:15:54- I don't just mean - the furniture and paintings.
0:15:54 > 0:15:57- I'm talking about the little things.
0:15:58 > 0:16:01- The inkwell and the pen...
0:16:01 > 0:16:05- ..and the brush and the dustpan.
0:16:05 > 0:16:07- Everything had to go.
0:16:08 > 0:16:12- She was responsible for clearing - thousands of pounds worth of debt.
0:16:13 > 0:16:15- Amy was determined to do it.
0:16:15 > 0:16:20- It was shocking to hear that a woman - who was raised in a stately home....
0:16:20 > 0:16:24- ..like Hendrefoilan - in the west of Swansea...
0:16:24 > 0:16:29- ..had to travel daily to the smoke - and stench at Llansamlet.
0:16:30 > 0:16:35- Bankruptcy carried a stigma - during this period.
0:16:35 > 0:16:40- It's believed that in the wake - of the Industrial Revolution...
0:16:40 > 0:16:45- ..many businesses suffered - for no apparent reason...
0:16:45 > 0:16:48- ..but the economy in general.
0:16:48 > 0:16:50- This is what happened here.
0:16:50 > 0:16:55- Every morning, Amy caught the train - to the offices at Cambrian Place.
0:16:56 > 0:17:01- She invited her nephew, - Rice Nicholl, to join the company...
0:17:01 > 0:17:07- ..but he would become Rice Dillwyn - to continue her father's legacy.
0:17:07 > 0:17:12- In this building behind me, - Amy managed the accounts...
0:17:12 > 0:17:15- ..and overlooked the company's work.
0:17:15 > 0:17:17- She was definitely the boss.
0:17:21 > 0:17:25- Amy had to work relentlessly - in the first three years...
0:17:26 > 0:17:30- ..to reduce costs - and find new markets.
0:17:30 > 0:17:36- She also spoke other languages - and wrote her own correspondence.
0:17:36 > 0:17:41- Amy lived in - a male-dominated world...
0:17:41 > 0:17:45- ..where women - weren't taken seriously.
0:17:45 > 0:17:50- She had no option - but to transform the factory.
0:17:50 > 0:17:54- She succeeded in doing this - by turning losses into a profit.
0:17:55 > 0:17:58- "The chief change in my existence...
0:17:59 > 0:18:03- "..is that in 1896, I found money - to satisfy Papa's creditors...
0:18:03 > 0:18:07- "..and got out of chancery - the estate he left to me.
0:18:07 > 0:18:13- "I purchased my own estate - - in this way became Dillwyn and Co."
0:18:13 > 0:18:16- The next ten years - were incredibly tough for Amy.
0:18:16 > 0:18:19- She worked hard and lived frugally.
0:18:19 > 0:18:24- However, it paid off as Amy could - afford to buy a house once again.
0:18:24 > 0:18:26- Her business was thriving.
0:18:27 > 0:18:31- One of her most significant trips - was to Algeria in 1905...
0:18:31 > 0:18:33- ..to the Atlas Mountains...
0:18:33 > 0:18:38- ..leading a group of people - looking for high quality zinc ore.
0:18:39 > 0:18:41- There were women explorers...
0:18:41 > 0:18:44- ..but to be exploring - and on a business trip...
0:18:45 > 0:18:49- ..and leading a business trip - for her own company was unusual.
0:18:49 > 0:18:52- The firm is now - turning over a good profit.
0:18:52 > 0:18:56- We've just returned - from the zinc mines in Algeria...
0:18:56 > 0:19:01- ..and I find there is an offer from - the German firm, Metallgesellschaft.
0:19:01 > 0:19:04- They wish to buy Dillwyn and Co.
0:19:06 > 0:19:11- When Amy sold the factory to - Metallgesellschaft in Frankfurt...
0:19:11 > 0:19:15- ..one of the world's - largest metal companies...
0:19:15 > 0:19:19- ..it was worth over 100,000.
0:19:19 > 0:19:23- She was far more successful - than the men in her family.
0:19:24 > 0:19:29- Amy saved the business but she - didn't enter into full retirement.
0:19:29 > 0:19:32- She was quite active in Swansea...
0:19:32 > 0:19:37- ..and founded a convalescent home - in Mount Pleasant...
0:19:38 > 0:19:40- ..and the Ragged School.
0:19:40 > 0:19:44- She also showed an interest - in the Suffragettes.
0:19:44 > 0:19:49- Amy wasn't a militant - but did support the Women's Vote.
0:19:59 > 0:20:02- She also knew how to enjoy herself.
0:20:02 > 0:20:08- Amy took up hockey in her fifties - and also enjoyed playing water polo.
0:20:08 > 0:20:11- At the age of 75, - Amy was spotted in Monaco...
0:20:12 > 0:20:15- ..playing poker against - Lily Langtree's husband.
0:20:16 > 0:20:18- She wanted to enjoy her wealth.
0:20:19 > 0:20:22- Amy didn't care - what people said about her.
0:20:22 > 0:20:27- She refused to be confined - by the Victorian ideals...
0:20:28 > 0:20:30- ..that women should never gamble.
0:20:34 > 0:20:39- Today, Amy and her family's legacy - is evident in the city of Swansea.
0:20:40 > 0:20:44- However, this influential family - is set to disappear.
0:20:44 > 0:20:48- Amy's nephew, Rice Dillwyn, - inherited her estate.
0:20:48 > 0:20:53- His granddaughter, Susan, is aware - of her forefathers's exploits.
0:20:53 > 0:20:56- It's one to be proud of - but it's coming to an end.
0:20:56 > 0:21:01- There are no Dillwyns left, only - the Dillwyn-Venables-Llewelyns.
0:21:02 > 0:21:06- They've only got daughters - so that's the end of the family.
0:21:06 > 0:21:10- How important is it for you - to keep Amy's memory alive?
0:21:10 > 0:21:12- It's very important...
0:21:12 > 0:21:17- ..because she was an interesting - and complex character.
0:21:17 > 0:21:22- We have her diaries which reveal - strange things about her...
0:21:22 > 0:21:25- ..and how she very nearly - went into a nunnery...
0:21:26 > 0:21:31- ..and also her journals - which she wrote in South Africa.
0:21:31 > 0:21:35- She went to chase up - her sister, Essie...
0:21:36 > 0:21:41- ..who had left her husband - and run away with another man.
0:21:46 > 0:21:52- Amy died at her home aged 90 - just before Christmas 1935.
0:21:53 > 0:21:57- It was her wish to be cremated - at an unceremonial service.
0:21:58 > 0:22:01- Her ashes were buried - with her parents and brother...
0:22:02 > 0:22:03- ..at a Sketty church.
0:22:07 > 0:22:11- Her father looked upon her - as a child rather than a girl.
0:22:11 > 0:22:16- The confidence she nurtured - enabled her to tackle problems.
0:22:16 > 0:22:19- Being a women didn't restrict her.
0:22:19 > 0:22:21- She was able to progress...
0:22:22 > 0:22:25- ..secure jobs - and the future of her business.
0:22:27 > 0:22:32- Her voice in the novels - are truly unconventional.
0:22:32 > 0:22:34- She pushed the boundaries...
0:22:34 > 0:22:39- ..in terms of being open - about a woman's train of thought.
0:22:41 > 0:22:45- She was an eccentric - and unconventional lady...
0:22:45 > 0:22:48- ..but she was unconventional - and eccentric...
0:22:48 > 0:22:54- ..as this is how she could retaliate - and do whatever she wanted to do.
0:22:55 > 0:22:59- Therefore, I think she was - a lady of great importance.
0:23:04 > 0:23:08- It's difficult to summarize - the life of Amy Dillwyn...
0:23:09 > 0:23:13- ..or pay a fitting tribute - to her contribution to this area.
0:23:13 > 0:23:16- Her name is on this city's streets - and squares...
0:23:17 > 0:23:21- ..and reminds us of an eccentric, - determined lady...
0:23:21 > 0:23:23- ..who left her mark on Swansea.
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